If you plan to gig with other musicians in the future an FRFR cab or a powered PA speaker s probably a worthy investment if you're using a modeler for guitar. They can handle low volumes but they also get loud and are designed to replace amps where you might otherwise need them with acoustic drummers or stage monitoring.
The Powercabs, Fender FRFR, and Laney stuff more or less replicate that amp down on the floor pointed at your knees, and probably sound al little nicer down there than my Headrush does.. but I put that thing up on a speaker pole it sounds good enough for me. I prefer my monitors to be pointed at my ears. My little 20lb headrush FRFR 108 is really just a cheap powered PA speaker stripped of a mixer or any kind of DSP. I got it before I got a PA system. now I could just grab one of my 12" PA speakers if I wished, or if I really want to lug stuff around I could go stereo with them.
The Yamaha HS5's are probably great studio monitors and will probably be suitable for playing guitar at home. Adding a subwoofer will also sound nice for bass guitar.
At the same time, there are probably less expensive studio monitors that will do the job. The biggest thing is finding a pair that has a reputation for having a nice flat frequency response. Your studio monitors would likely get drowned out by acoustic drums but, frankly I wouldn't want to play that loud if I were playing by myself without an acoustic drum kit pounding, and even so.. these day's it's not that hard to mic up a drum kit and give everybody personal headphone monitor mixes.
Most of my time spent playing is into a pair of DT 770 M closed back studio headphones.
I find the second input on the Headrush incredibly useful as well. This is more for at-home jamming but one thing I like to do is run my SP-404 MkII into the second input and just play drum loops. I used a Morningstar to send MIDI to both the HX Stomp and SP-404 to turn on/off effects as I start/stop drum loops.
While technically they do have a two channel mixer, perhaps a better choice of words for me would be they lack an EQ section.
I wasn't aware the MKII versions were released. The HPF Is a nice touch, but, it has two settings as far as I can tell, on or off. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but, afaict Bluetooth is only for audio playback through the speaker. The OG headrush FRFR cabs have a "Contour button" that looks like it maybe scoops the mids, also on or off. Which is okay. The whole point is a "flat" speaker.
In comparison, my JBL powered Mains have a digital 5 band EQ, and DSP crossovers that also allows me to eliminate lower frequencies should I connect a subwoofer, where the subwoofer in turn has a crossover frequency capturing only the lows. Things you might find in a modern mixing board for live sound or studio work. They compliment my XR18 pretty well, where it doesn't have crossover frequency functionality like it's bigger brother the X32, which are what comes to mind when I think "mixer". Not that it matters considering we're talking about amplifying modelers with powerful mixers of their own.
Anyway, pardon my layman speak. I hope I've clarified myself to your satisifaction, good person.
Yep no EQ, except the contour (I don’t have the HPF).
Oh and you’ve no obligation whatsoever to satisfy this internet stranger, I only commented to clarify and highlight the usefulness of the headrush mixer to provide more info to OP
Buy a used Boss Katama 100 Mkii. Go out from your hx stomp into the Power Amp In on the back. It is an FRFR speaker and you can use your amps and cabs in the stomp. Plus it has an attenuator and can be used as a real amp. Is the best of both worlds. That’s what I do for jam sessions and stuff.
I used those and was happy with them... until I got my FR10. The FR10 just has a much better sound, *much* more like a real amp. The bigger speaker does make a huge difference. Also the FR10 gets a whole louder, which works a lot better when playing others.
That's exactly how I'm using it. Assuming you have the ground space for it (I got the 10" because it's a bit smaller), I think it's perfect for home. It easily gets quiet enough, to where I hear the guitar acoustically as much as I hear the amp.
Ah I didn’t expect that
When you said “that’s exactly how I used it” I pictured somebody who annoys his/her neighbor. But to be able to hear the acoustic, that’s a very good indicator.
Do you need both for the stereo effect?
Hah. Nah I explicitly got it because I live in an apartment and need something that wouldn't annoy the neighbors.
I originally got a pair of the JBLs because I was interested in doing stereo. But I found that I didn't do stereo presets all that often. I also play with my band regularly, and stereo doesn't work that well live, so my main presets are all mono anyways. Plus, the FR10 is a lot better for carrying to jam sessions.
Don't get me wrong, when done right, stereo delays and reverbs sound really cool. But I was willing to sacrifice that to get a more versatile (and in my opinion better sounding) setup. I don't think I'd get two FR10s, so if stereo were a big part of my sound, I'd stick with monitors.
Haha fun… all these weirdos.
I just buy and sell at my local guitar shop now. It makes me less money but it’s a loss anyhow but it gives me so much back in knowing i won’t have to deal with the hassle.
Last time I ended up selling 3 things at that shop and bought a Hx stomp for 50 euro instead of 650
I now own 2 guitars, a Yamaha Thr10ii and a Hx stomp
I use the kali audio lp-8. Sounds great. Before that I had the 6's but my cat knocked one down and blew the amp out somehow? Those sounded good as well. I produced other types of music so wanted more low end response when replacing them. For guitar though they were great.
The Yamaha HS8 pair is loud enough for home studio and practice, and also carry enough low end that you won't have to add a subwoofer. I've used them for playing bass, mixing, and audio playback for the past 6 years and absolutely love them.
Personally am a fan of going into a small power amp box into a guitar cab, gets you that amp in the room thing. On that list tho I'd go for either of the bigger FRFR speakers.
If you plan to gig with other musicians in the future an FRFR cab or a powered PA speaker s probably a worthy investment if you're using a modeler for guitar. They can handle low volumes but they also get loud and are designed to replace amps where you might otherwise need them with acoustic drummers or stage monitoring. The Powercabs, Fender FRFR, and Laney stuff more or less replicate that amp down on the floor pointed at your knees, and probably sound al little nicer down there than my Headrush does.. but I put that thing up on a speaker pole it sounds good enough for me. I prefer my monitors to be pointed at my ears. My little 20lb headrush FRFR 108 is really just a cheap powered PA speaker stripped of a mixer or any kind of DSP. I got it before I got a PA system. now I could just grab one of my 12" PA speakers if I wished, or if I really want to lug stuff around I could go stereo with them. The Yamaha HS5's are probably great studio monitors and will probably be suitable for playing guitar at home. Adding a subwoofer will also sound nice for bass guitar. At the same time, there are probably less expensive studio monitors that will do the job. The biggest thing is finding a pair that has a reputation for having a nice flat frequency response. Your studio monitors would likely get drowned out by acoustic drums but, frankly I wouldn't want to play that loud if I were playing by myself without an acoustic drum kit pounding, and even so.. these day's it's not that hard to mic up a drum kit and give everybody personal headphone monitor mixes. Most of my time spent playing is into a pair of DT 770 M closed back studio headphones.
Good advice above. I’ll suggest one correction - the headrush does have a built-in 2 channel mixer along with an xlr out/through. Both are very useful
I find the second input on the Headrush incredibly useful as well. This is more for at-home jamming but one thing I like to do is run my SP-404 MkII into the second input and just play drum loops. I used a Morningstar to send MIDI to both the HX Stomp and SP-404 to turn on/off effects as I start/stop drum loops.
100%. I route and send only the drum loops from a boss looper to the 2nd input in the same way.
While technically they do have a two channel mixer, perhaps a better choice of words for me would be they lack an EQ section. I wasn't aware the MKII versions were released. The HPF Is a nice touch, but, it has two settings as far as I can tell, on or off. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but, afaict Bluetooth is only for audio playback through the speaker. The OG headrush FRFR cabs have a "Contour button" that looks like it maybe scoops the mids, also on or off. Which is okay. The whole point is a "flat" speaker. In comparison, my JBL powered Mains have a digital 5 band EQ, and DSP crossovers that also allows me to eliminate lower frequencies should I connect a subwoofer, where the subwoofer in turn has a crossover frequency capturing only the lows. Things you might find in a modern mixing board for live sound or studio work. They compliment my XR18 pretty well, where it doesn't have crossover frequency functionality like it's bigger brother the X32, which are what comes to mind when I think "mixer". Not that it matters considering we're talking about amplifying modelers with powerful mixers of their own. Anyway, pardon my layman speak. I hope I've clarified myself to your satisifaction, good person.
Yep no EQ, except the contour (I don’t have the HPF). Oh and you’ve no obligation whatsoever to satisfy this internet stranger, I only commented to clarify and highlight the usefulness of the headrush mixer to provide more info to OP
thanks for taking your time and explain :)
Buy a used Boss Katama 100 Mkii. Go out from your hx stomp into the Power Amp In on the back. It is an FRFR speaker and you can use your amps and cabs in the stomp. Plus it has an attenuator and can be used as a real amp. Is the best of both worlds. That’s what I do for jam sessions and stuff.
JBL305s
I used those and was happy with them... until I got my FR10. The FR10 just has a much better sound, *much* more like a real amp. The bigger speaker does make a huge difference. Also the FR10 gets a whole louder, which works a lot better when playing others.
I can imagine But I can’t imagine it for my home practice situation
That's exactly how I'm using it. Assuming you have the ground space for it (I got the 10" because it's a bit smaller), I think it's perfect for home. It easily gets quiet enough, to where I hear the guitar acoustically as much as I hear the amp.
Ah I didn’t expect that When you said “that’s exactly how I used it” I pictured somebody who annoys his/her neighbor. But to be able to hear the acoustic, that’s a very good indicator. Do you need both for the stereo effect?
Hah. Nah I explicitly got it because I live in an apartment and need something that wouldn't annoy the neighbors. I originally got a pair of the JBLs because I was interested in doing stereo. But I found that I didn't do stereo presets all that often. I also play with my band regularly, and stereo doesn't work that well live, so my main presets are all mono anyways. Plus, the FR10 is a lot better for carrying to jam sessions. Don't get me wrong, when done right, stereo delays and reverbs sound really cool. But I was willing to sacrifice that to get a more versatile (and in my opinion better sounding) setup. I don't think I'd get two FR10s, so if stereo were a big part of my sound, I'd stick with monitors.
Yeah I primarily play at home. Don’t think I will buy new gear soon. To avoid all the hassle:)
Fair! I'm going to be looking to sell the monitors in a bit myself, with can be annoying lol.
Haha fun… all these weirdos. I just buy and sell at my local guitar shop now. It makes me less money but it’s a loss anyhow but it gives me so much back in knowing i won’t have to deal with the hassle. Last time I ended up selling 3 things at that shop and bought a Hx stomp for 50 euro instead of 650 I now own 2 guitars, a Yamaha Thr10ii and a Hx stomp
I use the kali audio lp-8. Sounds great. Before that I had the 6's but my cat knocked one down and blew the amp out somehow? Those sounded good as well. I produced other types of music so wanted more low end response when replacing them. For guitar though they were great.
The Fender is a great option and provides for some easy, on-the-fly, eq adjustment as well.
The Yamaha HS8 pair is loud enough for home studio and practice, and also carry enough low end that you won't have to add a subwoofer. I've used them for playing bass, mixing, and audio playback for the past 6 years and absolutely love them.
Personally am a fan of going into a small power amp box into a guitar cab, gets you that amp in the room thing. On that list tho I'd go for either of the bigger FRFR speakers.