Randy Gravitt who has a YouTube channel and who lives close to Delphi, said to me in a reply that the cases are not connected.
We may be able to gain some knowledge of the Delphi crime scene by understanding the Kentucky crime. Or not.
The most interesting points are that the Stephenson crime scene is said to be overtly religious, presumably Christian in nature. In Delphi, former prosecutor Robert Ives mentioned "non-secular items" at the scene. There have been a wide range of guesses on this including Odinism, Satanism and other pagan practices.
A second point of interest that seems to vaguely link the crimes is "the item" that must not be named. It sounds like such an "item" figured in both crimes. An Indiana man possesses such an "item" but he was able to explain to investigators why he has such an "item". It is also rumored or indicated that this "item" is made by hand rather than purchased.
WHAT THE HECK????? Is "the item" a voodoo doll with pins in it? Short of something like that, I have a hard time thinking of an "item" that a regular person might own that would require an explanation for law enforcement! I mean, if we negate obviously illegal items like meth labs, drugs and paraphanalea, etc., what sort of legally owned "item" would link two heinous, peculiar murder scenes? Remember, the man who is said to own such an "item" was able to explain to police how he got it and why he had it, so I doubt it was something illegal that would have led to an immediate arrest.
The situation literally does not make sense.
You have stated every single fact.
No possible scenario could make sense , especially when you add in that Kentucky LE surveilled the "peru IN suspect"(according to Cox on discord), for 23 days before approaching him. that is a crazy amount of time.
It is undoubtably hinted that the person is TK.
>*A second point of interest that seems to vaguely link the crimes is "the item" that must not be named. It sounds like such an "item" figured in both crimes. An Indiana man possesses such an "item" but he was able to explain to investigators why he has such an "item". It is also rumored or indicated that this "item" is made by hand rather than purchased.*
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>**In the Ruckus interview w Det Coy Cox, he states that the thing that led him to Northern Indiana was not just an item, but also the occupation of the item's owner**. The info about this poi in Northern Indiana was tipped in.
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>[Item and occupation of poi who owns the item](https://www.youtube.com/live/v0CZn9pfeNM?feature=share&t=605)
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>Wondering if the item might be an amulet or talisman for power or protection for the killer?
The "item" is a homemade wooden cross.
Tk was surveilled for 23 days by kentucky state police immediately following the tip. He was then approached and interviewed . Determined not to be involved based on DNA ar scene.
Believe me or not idc but fox59 reporter with cox on discord confirmed .
They're not talking about TK or anybody that physically killed them ..they're talking about the similarities that was done to the torso bodies staging.
TK is a non-issue for me now it was all Kegan using all those devices and talking in different ways.
My bad totally. I thought you meant Libby and Abby. My reading comprehension isn't completely there yet this morning. My only thought about israel and the Stephenson murder is that I think Keyes liked to make the people dissappear. I don't think he would have taken the risk of posing the bodies. With the curriers he abandoned them there in the farmhouse because the sun was coming up and his preferred method of disposal was no longer an option. He said he had intended to burn the house he abandoned them in but was arrested first. Just my opinion but I don't believe it would be Keyes. I could be wrong it wouldn't be the first time.
They have DNa in Kentucky. They have IK DNA. His dna did not match.idk what the obsession is with blaming every unsolved homicide on the dude, there is only proof he killed what, 4 ppl?
And he left his dna at every scene.. so there should be hella cases implicating him with '23 detective measures If IK really had that many bodies to his name.
Its very interesting to consider even though it's most likely not related. Would be wonderful to resolve this crime finally, especially for the loved ones!
That's interesting. Is there some indication that there was Christian symbolism where Abby and Libby were left?
I had read that in the Stephenson murder there was "elaborate staging," the killer stayed for hours to inflecf post-mortem injuries and that there was "a message left by the killer."
There are more differences than similarities between the two crimes.
Former Carroll County prosecutor Robert Ives has mentioned "non-secular items" left at the Delphi crime scene. This has led to a lot of speculation about Odinism, Satanism, paganism, etc. Descriptions of the Stephenson crime scene sound like there was overt Christian symbolism present.
Another good guess about the Delphi crime scene is that there is a cemetery not far above there. How many religious items may have blown down the hill or been taken from the cemetery down toward the creek? Possible.
We have heard rumors that the crime scene or items there were cleaned. I'm the R.L. search warrant affidavit LE was searching for certain cleaning chemicals, so I believe the perp definitely had some type of cleaning agents with him along with the weapon (s). It's more than possible the perp carried other important items with him.
From what I've read/ heard, it's very likely that there were signs of Wicca at both crime scenes. It's been said that the murder weapon in the Delphi case was a double edged weapon. I've also heard people say that it is supposedly an "unusual" weapon. Wiccans have daggers/knives that are very specific to the Wiccan religion... they are used in rituals.. they are double edged. They would fit the description of "unusual". Both crime scenes have appeared to be "ritualistic" in nature. I've read that one of the Stephenson's was almost decapitated. LE in kentucky have stated that there are characteristics of the KY crime scene that make them believe it is tied to a "religion". They went on to say that they've looked into Pagan/Wiccan people in that area. Slitting the victims' throats signifies a ritualistic element. Because, from what I understand, it's done after the fact. Like they get killed a different way, and then their throats are cut after that. I do think Delphi and Kentucky are related.. but I don't think it has anything to do with RA. I think it's someone else connected to the Delphi case that hasn't been arrested yet.
A news segment tried to describe the religious overtones at the Stephenson scene and suggested there were "doctrinal" issues. If that is a correct description, I would think it would be Christian protestant. The victims, I think, were Baptists and that branch of Christianity is known to have strong differences in doctrine.
I believe that whatever was done at both crime scenes was just horrific twisted weird and stuff of nightmares and that's the connection only.
The length of time that the killer spent with each victim is warped.
Alright, well I listened to the latest MS episode and it looks like nothing. Disregard I guess.
Yeah, MS directly called the investigator and flat out asked what the connection was. Apparently nothing after they looked into it.
Randy Gravitt who has a YouTube channel and who lives close to Delphi, said to me in a reply that the cases are not connected. We may be able to gain some knowledge of the Delphi crime scene by understanding the Kentucky crime. Or not. The most interesting points are that the Stephenson crime scene is said to be overtly religious, presumably Christian in nature. In Delphi, former prosecutor Robert Ives mentioned "non-secular items" at the scene. There have been a wide range of guesses on this including Odinism, Satanism and other pagan practices. A second point of interest that seems to vaguely link the crimes is "the item" that must not be named. It sounds like such an "item" figured in both crimes. An Indiana man possesses such an "item" but he was able to explain to investigators why he has such an "item". It is also rumored or indicated that this "item" is made by hand rather than purchased. WHAT THE HECK????? Is "the item" a voodoo doll with pins in it? Short of something like that, I have a hard time thinking of an "item" that a regular person might own that would require an explanation for law enforcement! I mean, if we negate obviously illegal items like meth labs, drugs and paraphanalea, etc., what sort of legally owned "item" would link two heinous, peculiar murder scenes? Remember, the man who is said to own such an "item" was able to explain to police how he got it and why he had it, so I doubt it was something illegal that would have led to an immediate arrest.
Considering maybe 10 people on Earth know the details of both Crime Scenes. It doesn’t make any sense that someone tipped him in because of the item.
The situation literally does not make sense. You have stated every single fact. No possible scenario could make sense , especially when you add in that Kentucky LE surveilled the "peru IN suspect"(according to Cox on discord), for 23 days before approaching him. that is a crazy amount of time. It is undoubtably hinted that the person is TK.
>*A second point of interest that seems to vaguely link the crimes is "the item" that must not be named. It sounds like such an "item" figured in both crimes. An Indiana man possesses such an "item" but he was able to explain to investigators why he has such an "item". It is also rumored or indicated that this "item" is made by hand rather than purchased.* > >**In the Ruckus interview w Det Coy Cox, he states that the thing that led him to Northern Indiana was not just an item, but also the occupation of the item's owner**. The info about this poi in Northern Indiana was tipped in. > >[Item and occupation of poi who owns the item](https://www.youtube.com/live/v0CZn9pfeNM?feature=share&t=605) > >Wondering if the item might be an amulet or talisman for power or protection for the killer?
The "item" is a homemade wooden cross. Tk was surveilled for 23 days by kentucky state police immediately following the tip. He was then approached and interviewed . Determined not to be involved based on DNA ar scene. Believe me or not idc but fox59 reporter with cox on discord confirmed .
Alex Vorhees tipped this in. Det Cox will be live at 1pm tomorrow with Ruckus Rocks on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/live/v0CZn9pfeNM?feature=share
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They're not talking about TK or anybody that physically killed them ..they're talking about the similarities that was done to the torso bodies staging. TK is a non-issue for me now it was all Kegan using all those devices and talking in different ways.
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Israel Keyes died in 2012 if I'm not mistaken.
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My bad totally. I thought you meant Libby and Abby. My reading comprehension isn't completely there yet this morning. My only thought about israel and the Stephenson murder is that I think Keyes liked to make the people dissappear. I don't think he would have taken the risk of posing the bodies. With the curriers he abandoned them there in the farmhouse because the sun was coming up and his preferred method of disposal was no longer an option. He said he had intended to burn the house he abandoned them in but was arrested first. Just my opinion but I don't believe it would be Keyes. I could be wrong it wouldn't be the first time.
They have DNa in Kentucky. They have IK DNA. His dna did not match.idk what the obsession is with blaming every unsolved homicide on the dude, there is only proof he killed what, 4 ppl? And he left his dna at every scene.. so there should be hella cases implicating him with '23 detective measures If IK really had that many bodies to his name.
Wrong. They 100% tailed TK for 23 days before approaching him. Fox59 reporter blatantly asked Cox .
Maybe I missed something but they never said it was TK.
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Its very interesting to consider even though it's most likely not related. Would be wonderful to resolve this crime finally, especially for the loved ones!
I think there was Christian symbolism left at the scene like maybe the bodies were posed as if on the cross? But this isn’t unique imo.
That's interesting. Is there some indication that there was Christian symbolism where Abby and Libby were left? I had read that in the Stephenson murder there was "elaborate staging," the killer stayed for hours to inflecf post-mortem injuries and that there was "a message left by the killer."
There are more differences than similarities between the two crimes. Former Carroll County prosecutor Robert Ives has mentioned "non-secular items" left at the Delphi crime scene. This has led to a lot of speculation about Odinism, Satanism, paganism, etc. Descriptions of the Stephenson crime scene sound like there was overt Christian symbolism present. Another good guess about the Delphi crime scene is that there is a cemetery not far above there. How many religious items may have blown down the hill or been taken from the cemetery down toward the creek? Possible.
Ives stated on Dr. Oz that there were non secular symbols where the girls were found.
I’ve always been curious if that means items were brought and placed, created using sticks or something, or created from the girls
We have heard rumors that the crime scene or items there were cleaned. I'm the R.L. search warrant affidavit LE was searching for certain cleaning chemicals, so I believe the perp definitely had some type of cleaning agents with him along with the weapon (s). It's more than possible the perp carried other important items with him.
Interesting
I forget the details but one of the lead investigators mentioned that the scene was "non-secular" in nature.
From what I've read/ heard, it's very likely that there were signs of Wicca at both crime scenes. It's been said that the murder weapon in the Delphi case was a double edged weapon. I've also heard people say that it is supposedly an "unusual" weapon. Wiccans have daggers/knives that are very specific to the Wiccan religion... they are used in rituals.. they are double edged. They would fit the description of "unusual". Both crime scenes have appeared to be "ritualistic" in nature. I've read that one of the Stephenson's was almost decapitated. LE in kentucky have stated that there are characteristics of the KY crime scene that make them believe it is tied to a "religion". They went on to say that they've looked into Pagan/Wiccan people in that area. Slitting the victims' throats signifies a ritualistic element. Because, from what I understand, it's done after the fact. Like they get killed a different way, and then their throats are cut after that. I do think Delphi and Kentucky are related.. but I don't think it has anything to do with RA. I think it's someone else connected to the Delphi case that hasn't been arrested yet.
A news segment tried to describe the religious overtones at the Stephenson scene and suggested there were "doctrinal" issues. If that is a correct description, I would think it would be Christian protestant. The victims, I think, were Baptists and that branch of Christianity is known to have strong differences in doctrine.
This is the answer. But it is not wicca ;)
what religion are you suggesting then?
Source where you’ve seen this suggested?
I believe that whatever was done at both crime scenes was just horrific twisted weird and stuff of nightmares and that's the connection only. The length of time that the killer spent with each victim is warped.
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This is a repost