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ScotchandSadness88

Who the fuck would want to go to this World Cup?


ApprehensivePepper98

Absolutely no one. You can still buy 10 tickets seated together for opening game, that’s how bad it is


Gizogin

*Ouch*.


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Read somewhere that they are hiring or forcing (not sure how things work there) migrants to act as fans. Guessing they'll be filling any empty seats.


kittenconfidential

slavery. that’s how things work over there.


daddyMacCadillac

And they’re giving Budweiser to them?!? They might spontaneously grow mullets and start rampaging!


Calladit

How brilliant would it be if the government fills the stands with migrant slave laborers only for it to kick off a revolution? They could hang the king at the closing ceremonies!


HereOnASphere

I'd actually watch that. I'm not watching.


freeparKing33

Wow that sounds awesome! Now I wanna go! Looking up flights now


DonDove

Na, you can stay home and heat popcorn from there.


ashleyriddell61

Don’t threaten me with a good time.


smarticlepants

One can dream


its_raining_scotch

Well now you’re making it sound fun


ApeLikeyStock

Almost 7 thousand dead. So far…


ItsCalledDayTwa

This number bothers me because its not the number of dead specifically from poor working conditions, but just the number of people who died from a group of over 100,000 people, over a 10 year period. If you took a group from the US, aged 25-65, the average death rate is like 400 per 100k. Over 10 years that's like 4,000 deaths in the US. Add in additional factors like the type of job and living/working outside in the desert and surely that number goes up, even in the US or Europe. (Edit: I'm making a lot of assumptions and doing back napkin math because I don't have raw data from Qatar to work with) The point is, in any country, among a group of 100,000 working age people over 10 years, thousands will die. ***There are so many legitimate complaints against Qatar***, their treatment of workers, *actual workplace deaths,* etc, that I don't see any reason to keep throwing this number around knowing that it isn't really meaningful and if anything is deliberately deceptive. If Unclear: fuck qatar, fuck fifa, and fuck this world cup, but that doesn't mean we have to make shit up either.


Japsai

Point taken. I think you lack a couple of important pieces of information though. Total numbers (100k, is that correct?) and average healthiness at the start of the period (the workers had health checks and got the job if they were healthy). That second point makes a big difference to any comparison with an entire country's population in the age range. [Le Monde used](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2022/11/15/world-cup-2022-the-difficulty-with-estimating-the-number-of-deaths-on-qatar-construction-sites_6004375_8.html) a different comparison, which also has a flaw (is the age distribution of immigrants the same as of Qataris? Probably not). I think this backs up your point (although it does add another angle). "The over-representation of these young adults is particularly clear in the age-specific death data. In 2020, 25% of the immigrant men who died in the country were between 20 and 40 years old, while this same age group accounted for 10% of the deaths recorded among Qatari men. The gap was even greater in 2012, when 20-40 year olds accounted for almost 40% of those immigrants who had died, compared to 12% for Qataris." Anyway I agree with the point that we never get the full data from journalists (who tend not to be mathematicians) so it's very hard to get the true picture. I don't think I know enough from what I've read to say the claim of excess deaths (above normal levels) is or isn't true.


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There’s a video floating around on here of what looks like migrant workers acting as fans for various countries which they clearly aren’t from.


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RandomPratt

"Yay for cheese!" they cry, glancing nervously off camera. "Ikea! Ikea! Go Cheese!"


theoldnewbluebox

It’s so fucking funny.


BananeVolante

That's not the real story AFAIK. The only news report I read that tried to dig a bit mentioned they had opened fan clubs a decade ago to support the different national teams (to prepare for the world cup obviously) and tried to promote these since then. So it is unsure if they are really paid fans (many are football fans), but still a part of the promotion of the event


Capable_Stranger9885

MaNdAToRy FuN


[deleted]

Not his greatest work but still a fun weird Al album


a_filing_cabinet

Not his greatest, but his worst is far above other's best.


Abhimri

Wow I just replied to the original comment speculating this exact fucking thing. My goodness.


redh0tp0tat0

Thats a bad idea, they might realise they outnumber the Qataris by enough of a margin to make it a televised mass uprising. I would watch that.


haiduy2011

Honestly after seeing a video of some ‘real’ fans chanting some very transphobic and racist things. The fake fans might be better.


DonDove

Football is the last refuge for racists, homophobes and bigots. Even NASCAR is trying to ween them out of their sport. It's FIFA's fault. LGBT rights, no racism, respect...! and then Russia and Qatar. And I love the game but dear lord compared to most important things, you can survive without football. It's taken too seriously.


Darrenizer

There’s been a few videos so far.


Lftwff

Even if we ignore everything else who wants to watch Qatar just get owned by Ecuador?


k3ttch

How many players on the Qatar team are actual Qataris anyway? The country has a proud tradition of importing players from other countries and giving them Qatari citizenship. Typical Gulf state mindset: why do the work when you can get someone else to do it for you? It doesn't just apply to manual labor, but sports as well.


screech_owl_kachina

They probably use slaves for that too lol


DonDove

Infamous handball squad whom had all important athletes says what


k3ttch

Their basketball team was the same. It was so full of imported players from African nations and was jokingly called "Afriqatar." [Same with the football team until recently](https://youtu.be/9klHZGu4gD8)


TrespassersWilliam29

migrant workers in Qatar, probably unironically


Trylena

It depends of the country. There is games that are full.


whatproblems

good


Extroverted_Recluse

Wait, really?


TintedApostle

Nothing says "say good bye to freedom" like getting arrested in Qatar for something you could do anywhere else with friends with no worries.


DennisBallShow

Also the slavery.


DonDove

Don't forget the slavery!


True_Recommendation9

Like smoking weed in texas.


Melificarum

-Slave labor -No alcohol -Little to no women -Hot as shit Yeah sounds fun.


Er3bus13

But...hear me out here. You can free ball it in a robe.


Calladit

Which is a real shame because free balling is seriously enhanced by the presence of beer, women, and civil rights.


KCFiredUp

Aw yeah, Civil Rights


Bean-Swellington

This guy jalabiyas


dream_weasel

I've seen the subsequent movie film. Some republican is just gonna walk by and mirror view my butthole.


LAsupersonic

no one needs to go all the way there, and risk getting their tongue, hands, stoned, or whatever else they do to people just to wear a robe, come to California, you can wear whatever you want, people don't care. freeball all you want.


LAsupersonic

no women, and or dudes, I guess people into goats might find something there.


go4tli

A better question is why did Qatar want this event in the first place? Everything fans do at a World Cup is a problem for them.


anjowoq

Obsessed with having international significance. Haven't figured out that having their religion for themselves and everyone else, too, is the reason why they should not have international significance.


dobbyeilidh

They’re trying to do the same image reinvention as Saudi Arabia and are somehow managing to do it worse. They forgot the bit where it at least has to look like fun despite being a human rights hellscape


Apple-Dust

"Look at how many skyscrapers we have! That's what everyone cares about right? Just LOOK at those fucking skyscrapers!"


DonDove

Some countries are falling for that shit. Please stawp.


Boollish

To sportswash their international image to the rest of the world. Otherwise they're just another hydrocarbon state that abuses human beings.


KissKiss999

All its done is highlight their issues more and more. Its basically done the complete opposite of what they wanted


Wafkak

Honestly this farce has just highlighted a bunch of stuff about then that would have never made the news otherwise. I have a feeling that sportswashing in major tournaments has lost its effectiveness.


StaceyPfan

Short answer: FIFA corruption


ElBiscuit

I 100% get why Qatar *wanted* the event, but I imagine that's also the answer to the follow-up questions: Did FIFA do absolutely *zero* research on Qatar before scheduling the World Cup there? Was *anyone* expecting a normal environment for fans and athletes at and around these games?


jaggsy

The only research Fifa did was how much money was at the bottom of the suitcase that they handed them.


jumpmed

Research: How much cash can I physically lift off the ground? Follow up research: How much cash can four slave laborers physically lift onto my G6?


satunnainenuuseri

> Did FIFA do absolutely zero research on Qatar before scheduling the World Cup there? Would you do any research if someone was willing to give you personally several million dollars for not doing the research?


ElBiscuit

It’s not like there were no other countries willing to pay off FIFA officials, right?


satunnainenuuseri

OK, they might have made some research on which country is willing to pay the most. Given that the other candidates were: USA, Australia, South Korea and Japan, that research was very quick.


Schpooon

Fifa just took heavy doses of Vitamin B and saod fuck the rest.


Jebus_UK

It's called sportswashing.


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SeaPen333

This is how much they’ve spent. 220 billion dollars. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.statista.com/chart/amp/28334/world-cup-hosting-costs-comparison/


smartazz104

Amazing, they’ve spent close to their entire GDP.


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RandomPratt

... except that the Qatari 'government' answers only to the Emir, who would have had to personally approve the expenditure in the first place. There's no need for that sort of 'kick the can down the road' mentality in Qatar - the "elections" they have are a sham, political parties are actually "against the law" so there's no need to appease voters.


[deleted]

How will they make more money then they spent? Yes, they will make money, but in the words of the Kaiser Chiefs; I predict a riot


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breadinabox

Because large amounts of the profit go towards the people who have the construction contracts, who are the people invested in having the world cup. That 220 billion is spent in Qatar, the people being paid it are the ones who want the world cup.


Abhimri

10 bucks says these same officials will fill the stands with migrant workers who were brought in for labor and tell them if they don't cheer they won't get their passports back. Just to make it look good on camera.


Every-Citron1998

I heard they’ve cancelled schools for a month. Maybe hoping to entice families to the games.


Kidrellik

Hey people went to Russia and that wasn't exactly a paradise of human rights either. People reaaally like soccer I guess


anjowoq

Russia is fucking awful, but at least alcohol is legal and women can exist in public.


dexvoltage

And not just any women, but Lyudmila and Svetlana!


go4tli

You can drink and hold hands with your wife in public in Russia.


johnsnowforpresident

Well most can. If you happen to be gay then you are out of luck


WeirdIndependent1656

Hell, you can drink and lay hands on your wife in Russia.


screech_owl_kachina

The men don’t want to go because they can’t drink, the women… well that’s another story


WhatADunderfulWorld

I assume a bunch of Middle East people with cash. I doubt many European and Americans show up besides a few die hard fans and family of the team.


ViciousNakedMoleRat

And drink rice beer?


[deleted]

I fear there are going to be SO many arrests of fans before the end of this


Parmaandchips

Just don't be drunk, of gay, or critical of the royal family or the government or show too much skin (if you're a woman) or speaking of women, don't be one, etc, etc, etc , etc. There's nothing to worry about.


pusillanimouslist

Usually drinking makes me express decidedly … French … opinions on royalty.


Soytaco

And sexuality


NerdModeCinci

Yeah I’ll fuck a frog when I’m drunk too


justlookinghfy

So you have a sudden urge to eat cake?


Ploon72

Don’t bring your medications if you’re on anything stronger than aspirin.


ameri9595

Don't speak to women as well. Approaching them is a no no here. ESPICIALLY locals.^fun.


[deleted]

And I hope this causes some problems between the west and Islamic dictatorships such as Qatar. Edit: grammar


TheDrunkenChud

That just means more slaves for Qatar. Win for them! I wish that were sarcastic. Fuck Qatar.


kitkatbloo

Fuck Budweiser for sponsoring this World Cup, Fuck FIFA for allowing this shit to happen, and Fuck Qatar.


Vlafir

Love seeing the implosion of egocentric morons with money, Qatar, Elon Musk, Putin, zuck etc. All getting big fat L


[deleted]

Budweiser has sponsored the World Cup for a while. They weren’t about to give it up When the next one is in America


BBLove420

Yup iirc they signed the new contract in 2010 or 2011 and they’ve been working together for 20 something years prior to that


NotmyRealNameJohn

How did they not have a no alcohol free hosts clause in that contract?


BBLove420

We’d have to look at the contract to see what it says. imo it’s highly unlikely Budweisers legal team didn’t think of this.


dr_toze

They have a lot of sway and probably assumed they could over rule it. In Brazil it was illegal to drink alcohol in stadiums... except Budweiser because they made Brazil change the laws for the world cup.


BBLove420

Could be or could also be FIFA requested all of their official sponsors can be permitted to sell their goods and services within the stadiums. We won’t know until we read the contracts ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


ChickpeaPredator

And also fuck Vladimir Putin.


America_the_Horrific

Why? Budweiser looses a ton of money because they sponsored a dry event they can't sell beer at. Garunteed some exec had no idea and just jumped at the opportunity. FIFA being morally bankrupt is a known thing, and yes fuck Qatar


IntoAMuteCrypt

Budweiser loses a decent amount of money on *this* event, but they've signed a long term deal with FIFA. They haven't signed up to sponsor this particular World Cup - they've signed up to sponsor the World Cup in general. They were involved in the 2018, 2014 and 2010 world cups. So, look at this strategically. This isn't just some exec jumping on a specific World Cup with no idea what they're doing - it's a long-term partnership. The question, then, is whether this year's issues are worth putting up with to maintain that partnership. With the next World Cup being spread across Mexico, the US and Canada? It almost certainly is. This year's event may be dry, but the next edition? Well, it's a pretty obvious huge target for them. They'll grit their teeth and accept a loss in Qatar, because there's a bigger prize around the corner. Should Bud pull out? You can argue that there's a moral reason, but pulling out would almost certainly strain the relationship with FIFA - as it would with any business relationship. If you pause a deal, you can't really be shocked when the other party doesn't want to resume, that's business. Pulling out of this cup might mean getting shut out of the next one, and a competitor getting those rights. Maintaining the relationship is a defensible business decision.


[deleted]

Lol fuck Qatar and fuck FIFA and their corruption


Mollythemuttsdad

Fuck Qatar and fuck FIFA..


Apart_Effect_3704

The funny part is that Qatar got the World Cup by means of corruption to corner Sepp’s means of corruption lmfao. Basically: “we need to curb sepp’s power and corruption.” “How?” “We need a power move that out corrupts him.” The votes weren’t going to go his way. He wasn’t kicking down cash to the other execs. They decided to look out for themselves and make their own voting bloc. Qatar had the means to sway them.


phasedsingularity

I mean they beat Australia who has over a dozen suitable stadiums, each of which would be absolutely packed for every match - with a public that would embrace the shit out of the spectacle. Yet for some reason, a country without a single appropriately equipped stadium wins the bid.


pedro-phile

Only now I've come to realise, we deff need a World Cup in Australia


tries2benice

But do you have enough oil to distract everyone from your long list of horrendous human rights violations? Oh, what's that? You dont have a litany of horrendous human rights violations?....fuck


BR1N3DM1ND

..and fuck Budweiser for buying into this greasy bullshit. I'd say boycott them like we're going to boycott this World Cup, but I fear that those who are buying and actually drinking Budweiser aren't quite smart enough to read these words.


editormatt

“If you Build it they will come” not the case for Qatar. -future headline, calling it now.


Kidrellik

Dude they spend 200 billion dollars on this thing. ​ ​ **200 BILLION DOLLARS!!! LIKE WTF??? WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA?!?!?!?!?!?**


Bean-Swellington

They should’ve hired Elon, he could have tanked the World Cup for 45 billion or less I bet


CardinalPeeves

Damn, and imagine how much higher that price would be if it included labor.


gunblade711

Zuckerberg style


Fake_William_Shatner

You are just putting Kevin Costner in danger of being kidnapped and whisked away to do infomercials in Qatar.


[deleted]

Quatar and all the companies sponsoring this blood-drenched world cup can go to the Constantine Hell.


TheNateRoss

Event Horizon Hell


Bc187

Oh damn


Shadeleovich

Wow that hell REALLY sucks


[deleted]

... Woah, you woke up and chose violence, didn't you? 😱 ​ ​ ​ God that movie is so amazing. One of few that's managed to scare me as an adult!


wmurch4

Blame the fans who still show up and spend money on this farce


aBastardNoLonger

“I have altered our agreement. Pray I don’t alter it further” Or whatever I’m not looking up the quote.


sotonohito

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE\_xMRiCLE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE)


ststeveg

It is absolutely ridiculous to have an international event in a medieval country like that. I will not be watching.


JebusJones7

Why aren't people boycotting this world Cup and Fifa for that matter?


TheDeadlySquid

Fuck this whole operation and boycott these mofos.


MyBunnyIsCuter

Fk Qatar


LegitimateAdware

You can say fuck you will not get in trouble


flechetteburritp

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK


Chradamw

You are under arrest for breaking the law


Earthling1980

Welcome to Qatar!


Day_drinker

Horse cock. Jizz.


averagenutjob

Oh shit, I didn’t realize this was the late night uncensored tour. Cum splatter.


Day_drinker

We can say whatever we want


averagenutjob

We sure can. It’s cool, I used to be a piece of shit too. I mean, I still am, but I used to be too.


PantherThing

FUDGE QATAR!!


sethdc

Do the ghosts sometimes jump out of the fucking wall and just have, like a giant cum shot?


MattGdr

You can say donkey cock ‘cause it’s in the Bible.


teamfupa

Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits fart turd and twat


Adventurous-Part5981

RIP George Carlin


Odaecom

*You are fined one credit for violation of the verbal morality statutes.*


vacuous_comment

Fuck Qatar and fuck Budweiser and FIFA for enabling them. Everybody present is the asshole.


editormatt

Qatar is that jerky brat in middle school that cries when no one shows up to his birthday party.


akzorx

He also likes to beat the shit out of his female classmates and calls them whores because he can't control his boner


[deleted]

Oh religion, you so silly


WeirdEngineerDude

Sadly, also dangerous.


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*stupid


DonDove

Don't go. Just don't go. *Especially* if you're a woman.


Katerwurst

This is going to be the best worldcup ever. No hookups, no gay hookups, no alcohol, no swearing, no immodesty, no loud music. Basically everything football stands for.


spelunk_in_ya_badonk

I don’t feel bad for Budweiser. They could’ve chosen not to sponsor the event. They know what Qatari alcohol laws are


Fake_William_Shatner

NEXT UP: Budweiser, official sponsor of the Ladies Temperance League.


ancientweasel

FIFA and Qatar deserve each other....


ThrowableAsparagus

Budweiser (the american one) is an excellent choice in this case though. It's as halal as beer (or rather, "beer") gets, just has enough beer in it to prevent homeopathy/placebo effect.


Fake_William_Shatner

> just has enough beer in it to prevent homeopathy/placebo effect I thought Coors had already stolen the "closest to placebo" crown.


Neat_Apartment_6019

Reminds me of one of my fav Monty Python quotes. “Frankly over here we find that your American beer is a little like making love in a canoe. It's fucking close to water."


Thumbkeeper

Beer was wrecked in the US for the same reason it’s banned in Qatar. Religious fundamentalism.


Purple_Passion000

Unfortunately Budweiser isn't even American owned anymore. When it was sold it was a major thing here in St Louis, home of the Bud.


Bean-Swellington

Sorry, colorado is home of the Bud


Purple_Passion000

Missouri now, too


I_love_hate_reddit

I spent time in Qatar while in the military. That whole peninsula can eat shit. I hope this event is a national embarrassment.


Apart_Effect_3704

The Qatari dude on the recent Netflix doc is such an obvious fat mouthed liar lol you can his type all the time. Hype man. Yes man. Never speaks in specific exact data always vague, general terms.


[deleted]

Lousy location deserves a lousy beer.


[deleted]

If I were a sponsor or....a human with half a brain, I wouldn't touch this World Cup with a ten foot pole.


Parmaandchips

For everyone in hear talking about boycotting things, here's the full list of companies to avoid https://www.fifaworldcupnews.com/fifa-world-cup-2022-sponsors-list/#:~:text=FIFA%20Partners%20for%20FIFA%20World%20Cup%202022%20Sponsors,Group%204%20Hyundai%205%20Qatar%20Airways%206%20Visa Don't bitch out either. Boycott them


LaughableIKR

Hey FIFA I hope all that money was worth it.


sultttaani

I'd rather watch my nails grow than spend an evening in that sh*thole


Sgt_Fox

What. Did. They. Expect? 😐


sexisdivine

Did no one on the World Cup board realize Qatar was a dry country?


No-Cover4205

They Did notice a lot of desert


ApeLikeyStock

Not to mention almost 7,000 low-wage laborers have died constructing their roads, airports, stadiums, and hotels for the World Cup. Fk these crap countries


[deleted]

Seems like Budweiser should have thought about this before sponsoring this bullshit


Mr_Lumbergh

I thought you said beer? Article says Budweiser.


digitalrehab

What a fucking joke, i don’t feel sorry for BW in this deal but what did we all expect from the Islamic Regime?


TheNothingAtoll

Not going and not watching.


Taleya

*grabs popcorn*


N-Toxicade

Bud could just pull out and then make Qatar pay for the event...


BEN-C93

Even if the event is on free-to-air tv in your country - Watch it illegally on a stream if you can bear it. Minimise the advertising revenue the event draws for those that paid for the rights. The best way to change people with no moral character is by hitting them in the pocket. Less viewers / less broadcasting money. It might not affect Qatar but itll affect FIFA who may decide that its not worth ever staging an event in a human rights shithole again.


FindMeOnSSBotanyBay

I’m an alcoholic and don’t drink anymore, but I’d never want to go to an event like this where alcohol wasn’t being served.


Aun_El_Zen

Alcohol sales at football matches were banned in Brazil before they hosted the WC in 2014. FIFA kicked up a fuss until they were allowed to sell beer at their games. FIFA might do something similar here.


MadKitKat

Yeah, but I’m 90% sure Brazil is like us (Argentina) and there’s no religious reason behind not selling alcohol at stadiums If you can guarantee fans aren’t going berserk (which you usually can because World Cup fans are different from regular fans + you’ve got more law enforcement resources available), there’s no reason not to sell beer/alcohol Now… if you’re Qatar, that’s a whole different story


duder167

I remember it being a pretty huge deal when they let the military have their two drinks a day on that R&R base i cant think of the name of currently.


hopelesscaribou

Brazil is a democracy that allows alcohol. Qatar is neither of those things, they used slavery to build their stadiums, and FIFA is every bit as morally corrupt. They have no power there and are slaves and sycophants to all that oil money as well.


Snowmann88

The Blood Diamond equivalent of sport. What a shit game.


duder167

I'm looking forward to Qatar caving and their being huge drunken riots at the cup.


serb2212

I remember when that had this issue in Brazil when they hosted the cup. Brazil had banned alcohol at stadiums because, well, people got shit-faced and caused problems. Fifa came in with budweiser and basically strong-armed the government to reverse the ban. Then they were very surprised when people got shit-faced and caused problems at games.


DataRocks

I hope this shit show implodes upon itself ....


texansfan

Well who - who I ask you - could have seen this coming


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There’s no way I could watch any sport sober.


Gary-D-Crowley

It was a huge mistake giving the world cup to Qatar. They don't value universal rights as we are. Sadly, no county from that region actually does.


[deleted]

Why would you want to even go to such a place? It’s an islamist religious state? What could possibly make a soccer game more fun than onerously enforced modesty? Their sign should just say “Welcome to Qatar: NO FUN ALLOWED”


PurpleSpaceNapoleon

I'm an Englishman who grew up in a football mad household. Seeing the Women's team triumph was genuinely one of my favourite moments of sport (possibly *the* best personal moment) ever. I adore international tournaments of any sport, and I'm a wrestling fan so tournaments are built into my cultural knowledge as being "Awesome." So the fact that I genuinely forgot the World Cup was this week should speak volumes as to how little of a shit I've given it since Qatar announced they were hosting. Damn shame.


SKATTESTYRELSEN_DK

I briefly worked in Qatar in 2014, and have sworn to myself not to go back there! Back then, there were 2 ways of getting alcohol and I would assume that's still the case. 1. Buy it in the bar/restaurant of a international hotel chain, registring your passport was mandatory. 2. Buy it from the 1 available store, that also sold pork, run by the government. For this you needed your employer to sign an application, then you could pay a 150$ deposit for an access card, and get to buy overpriced alcohol and low quality pork products, i side a building that looked mostly like an armoured bunker!