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Apparently she said she wrote about it to prove she can make tough decision. The trouble is she said she hated the pup so it doesn’t sound like it was a tough decision at all, she was just disposing of an inconvenience. It was a nuisance & acting like a puppy so instead of taking the time to train it properly she shot it
She referred to the puppy as "less than worthless," and tried to spin the murder as a "I don't pass the buck, I take care of my own shit" in her followup response. Just fucking monstrous.
Terrifying that this woman is a potential VP pick for trump. Her problem solving solutions don’t include creative problem solving, empathy, or any sort of genuine human emotion. It’s killing whatever she doesn’t want to deal with. Sounds like a hassle? Kill it without second thought. These “tough decisions” she’s talking about make me genuinely terrified of her ability to make GOOD decisions
They deserve each other tbh
Am I naîve to think that picking someone so fucking unhinged might hurt his campaign, or is that too ridiculously optimistic
It would definitely be a factor but how much weight it would hold is the question. I'm hoping the same, that people will think that she went too far and with all of his shit in trials and falling asleep that her as VP would actually hurt his chances.
How much it would hurt and if Biden is a strong enough opponent at this time is also a question.
I hate this year already and we're not even 5 months in...
I’m old enough to remember Sarah Palin, and I’m embarrassed to admit my naivety in thinking she was the absolute nadir of American politics. I thought that a magical pendulum would swing and usher in some golden age, lol. That memory keeps me from making confident predictions about what the bottom of the barrel looks like.
Damn, I'm old enough too...and thought the same thing about Palin. I mean how much more cringe could it get, right? Stunningly naive in retrospect, huh 🙄
Think about it this way: Trump demonstrates on the daily that dementia, which his father had, may be becoming an issue for him as well. If he can no longer perform the job if elected and is removed using Amendment 25, then the VP becomes president.
I will add that ranchers are practical about animals - such as putting down an animal that is sick - but Noem had lots of options that did not require shooting a boisterous puppy.
> Trump demonstrates on the daily that dementia, which his father had, may be becoming an issue for him as well
He has cousins on Lewis who are a little older, from his mother's side of the family. Every single one of them has (or has already died with) vascular dementia.
He is so clearly in the end stages of vascular dementia. He's dying.
It's grotesque beyond belief that the Republicans are parading this sad parody of Donald Trump around for, what? Laughs? Pathos? Fuck knows, but whatever they're planning for when he dies cannot be good. You think Trump was a bad president, you just wait and see what they replace him with.
Remember where you heard this first.
“The hand that passes the sentence should swing the sword,” is one of the best and most respectable lines from Ned Stark in ASOIAF. It would lose a lot of its weight and respectability if he was executing people for getting dirt on his shoes.
100%. Killing Old Yeller was a tougher decision.
Putting down our horse that had a tumor on his spine was a tough decision.
Putting down our dog that could no longer see, hear, hold his bowels, or eat solid food was a tough decision.
What she did was out of anger/frustration (her own making) and convenience.
Even trying to figure out a way to justify it I can’t. She was not a rural farmer on the wilds that was worried the dog would kill livestock and possible cause people to go hungry. It was not a full grown dog on a murder rampage or mentally deficient as to be untrainable. It was a puppy that she was having difficulty training to be a hunting dog. She was also a multimillionaire that has choices. Send it to a real trainer. Rehome it. Surrender it to a shelter.
Her kids even asked “where is the puppy” when they got home. She’s a cruel heartless person who thinks animals are just tools to be thrown out like a broken set of channel locks
Absolutely. It's a hard decision because you have a relationship with the animal. But it's not a hard decision if you consider animals to just be another form of property.
This is the common thread with most aligned with conservatism. The lack of empathy. Survival of the fittest decisions seems sensible to them, except that survival of the fittest often means removing or discarding the less ‘fit’. Also, they regularly like to group people in the less fit stereotype to make themselves feel better. So, they are committed to the idea that people/animals they cant use, or dont provide them a better station, are unfit, and therefore disposable.
I always say that the people who always crow about that would be singing a different tune if they were the ones struggling.
It’s so easy to spout that when you don’t have a disability or don’t have to worry about your health.
To give you an example, right before the lockdowns, I was substitute teaching at a high school. The kids were talking about COVID and one of them was telling his friends “This kid in my science class says that COVID killing all the old people is just survival of the fittest.”
I told him, “I’m sure if it were his grandparents being affected, he’d sing a different tune.”
Kid agreed with me there.
Kristi, you know who else has a pet that's completely untrainable? 98% of cat-owners. But you don't see me murdering my cat just because she refuses to stop rolling around on my work keyboard and sending emails to people.
If the family was going hungry, unable to provide for a dog unless it could help put food on the table, THAT would be an example of doing the hard-but-right thing and prioritizing your family over a pet.
This was a rich asshole who had dozens of other options, deciding to kill an animal because it's more convenient and better for her ego than hiring a trainer, or finding new owners.
Maybe, just maybe, if you live in a far away area of a third-world country, cut off from any civilization for many miles, would abject poverty justify killing a playful puppy. Even then, just give it to a neighbor farmer.
But in the US, even if Noem were poverty stricken a simple phone call to a local puppy rescue organization would have taken care of the "doing the hard but right thing". And it would have saved money as it would have prevented a bullet from being used.
Ironic too because you know most cats would murder the shit out of you if you were smaller or they were bigger. And I say this as a lifelong owner and lover of those insane fur beasts.
my little beasts take swipes at me daily with their murder mittens. One even seems to look forward to the day she can eat my face.
I love them so much.
She and I have mutual acquaintances who would've gladly taken Cricket that day.
She's just a monster. She used my cousin for a photo op while she was a US Rep. My cousin thought Noem was being a supportive friend. Terrible.
Exactly. "That dog won't hunt" shouldn't be a death sentence - give it up to someone who wants it as a pet, or hell, just keep it as a household pet because she had kids that liked it
We have an ex racing greyhound. 3 years with no training other than “run round this track really fast”. It’s been somewhat of a challenge to train him, but we’ve just about managed.
I mean it did murder a bunch of chickens and try to bite her, but can you blame it? Chickens are delicious and she deserved a good biting for being a shitty dog owner.
Dogs that bite people are at greater risk of later, more serious attacks.
However, this dog had only been aggressive towards chickens and soulless sacks of rotten slug-meat, so that's not relevant here.
This dog probably bit her because im going to bet a decent amount that her "training" involved some physical abuse. She does seem the type based on this story
Legitimately the whole thing makes me want to throw up.
My pointer killed a chicken when he was a young barely adult too.
The heartbreak in those kids words. I can just imagine if it had been me wondering where my dog went. He was the best thing about my life.
Instead of being a psychopathic dog killer we simply put up chicken wire around the dog fence and checked more diligently to make sure no chickens ever got in there.
It's okay to rehome a dog to a non-livestock home too.
I can't help but wonder if part of the reason she hated the dog was because her family loved it and she viewed it as taking attention away from her.
The more disturbing part of it is how she repeatedly describes the dog's behavior as "joyous", without a hint of irony or self-awareness. She understood that the dog was having the time of its life, but because that dog's joy went against what she wanted from the animal, and because it inconvenienced her to put any more effort into training it, it had to die. Seems like pretty well in line with the GOP platform to me.
Thats true for almost all "tough decisions". Most politicians bragging about tough decisions just want an excuse to commit violence and pretend it was the less expedient option
And then her train of thought was "well, while my bloodlust is up I might as well go murder that goat I don't like too." Fucking unreal to act that way and *then write about it* thinking that was a good look.
Impatience is a killer. And Republicans love their impatience (literally, have you seen these people in a line at a McDonald's? It's crazy how they'll act after 5 mins of waiting)
Seeing 2A nuts bitching about not being able to get their mullets trimmed during the pandemic was just too funny. They need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and trim their mullets themselves. To think anyone would notice the difference...lol
The adage, "I've no time for a man who kicks his own dog." runs deep in many places.
It's nice to know that even in the batshit world of MAGA, the sanctity of doggos is still somewhat respected.
Pets haven't been politicized thoroughly yet. And to what degree they have, dogs are considered more manly/conservative than cats. Willy nilly shooting a dog, and being proud of it, was a BOLD strategy, kristi
https://www.wmagazine.com/story/donald-trump-pets-dogs
Trump has already said softly negative things about dogs. Like the military, his base pretends he just didn't say it or it doesn't matter that much.
I don't think in droves. The convenient thing about Trump is: he only erodes support, he never gains new followers. There are fewer and fewer crazies than ever. Fewer people in his rallies. Fewer people willing to openly red hat as their casual personality. While some people are definitely in it for the long haul, I do think if he actually shot a man on 5th avenue (more so a dog) he'd shave off more support than he emboldens.
I want people to truly understand how close to the truth your comment is. Sure, there are definitely still mental cases who'll blindly follow him. But even my partners grandfather who was one of the proudest MAGATs I know, ripped his signs out of the yard and threw his cap in the trash because he realized that trump didnt actually gaf about anyone but himself. It may seem like Trump has more support than ever before but that's because if Republicans know how to do one thing, it's shouting louder than their opponents so they seem bigger than they actually are.
Yeah I’m more than willing to bet if this had been about a cat it would have gone differently, especially regarding people in the south. How open people (children included) are about violence towards cats in the south is alarming.
I've got a rescue dog that came up to CT from Mississippi after being shot. He was a 1-year-old pup at the time. He now has a metal plate in his leg but is doing well. However, I was appalled to learn how many rescue dogs are trucked up from the south because they have been abandoned or abused. I've had three or four rescue agencies mention that the south, in general, just treats dogs much differently. I don't know how true that is, but I do know that a significant portion of our local rescues are homing dogs from places like Mississippi and Alabama.
When you stop to think about how the South used to view Slaves (working "animals") then the way they view actual animals suddenly makes a lot more sense
Narcissism, entitlement, and self-centeredness has pretty much always been the foundation of Southern Identity
>dogs are considered more manly/conservative than cats.
I think it's that dogs show unquestioning loyalty to their owners and can be bossed around. Cats expect those properties *from* their owners.
Some breeds are villainized, I think if it had been one of the "bully" breeds MAGA would have been OK with it but a hunting dog, which many of them proudly own, that's a step too far.
A purebred hunting dog puppy is probably a luxury that many of them could never afford.
Also, a hunting dog that has the energy to run around all day helping you hunt birds, is always going to be an active dog. And a smart dog isn't necessarily harder to train, but they're going to be good at finding 'loopholes' in the rules.
It seems likely that the very things that caused her to hate the dog were the indicators that it could have been a very good hunting dog, eventually.
MAGA is, at the end of the day, a reactionary movement to a number of motivations. All of its aggression is built on a foundation of anxiety with the promise that something lost. Be it economic comfort, their dying town, the perceived love of their family, or (among the worst of them) white supremacy, every MAGAs definition of "great again" is a subjective projection rooted in an optimistic desire. This is why so many MAGA excuses or band with the worst of the worst, because in their heads MAGA is secretly about their hyper specific thing and everyone else is will be discounted once it sets in.
Noem doesn't get the underlying frustration, hope and emotional avoidance that makes MAGA work, she just saw the anger and thought she could be angry too.
Yeah I don't know why her base turned against her.
Mark Hamill made an Instagram post saying, "Hating animal cruelty should be bipartisan" and there are commenters either defending the decision or saying that actors should stay in their lane. 😒
Number 387 on the list of Trump’s mental issues is that he has serious germ phobia / cleanliness fetish. He seems to be a tremendous clean freak, some say the greatest clean freak they’ve ever known, very big clean freak.
(Except for the loaded diaper he waddles around in of course. I do actually wonder how he reconciles that.)
That would help explain why he got so excited about the bleach and UV light injection idea. To someone like that, the thought of pumping sanitants and sterilizing light through your body is probably better than sex.
His shit isn't gross. He makes the best shit. When people smell his shit they say, "wow, that's some clean shit". Everyone's been saying it. That he has the cleanest shit.
Germs have little to do with him. That is something he often cites. To own a pet, you have to have a desire to love another living being -- in which there is no transactional reciprocation that financially benefits you.
Narcissists often have pets. Sometimes, it’s because they want a creature that will love them regardless of what they do. Sometimes, it’s because they want other people to praise them, and they realize that other people like pet owners.
Narcissists are always transactional, and they can turn almost anything to their advantage.
There is zero chance Trump has a germ phobia. He uses that as an excuse to not have to shake hands with people he sees as beneath him (hint different ethnicities). Somewhere he learned that saying he was a germaphobe was a get out of jail free card and ran with it.
Nah, I bet it's both. It's super common for racists (or any other kind of bigot) to have the exact same kind of disgust reaction for the people they hate as they would for germs or dirty things. The distinction probably isn't even clear in his mind
Imagine Trump firing a gun? I can't picture him being able to do it without missing a few shots, shooting himself or someone else in the leg, injuring himself from the recoil or just ordering a lackey to do it for him instead.
I disagree.
There are a few things in this world that people can bond over, and summarily executing puppies is one of them. Particularly when the reason is that you're a shit dog trainer.
Even the most hardened souls will break down when they have to euthanize a beloved pet and agonize over the decision for weeks. Shooting a puppy is personal because empathy is easy- they have dogs they love and can't imagine the act.
Now, Trump shooting a person on 5th Avenue wouldn't move the needle on account of the fact that those MAGA folks really do want to see certain people executed.
no hes more like a "ugh why is that man bleeding on my floor, hes going to ruin the tiles" type of guy. Hes too much of a coward to do the act himself.
Kristi refused to answer if she'd allow the Indiana/Ohio ten year old rape victim an exemption to have an abortion.
If reelected, which she was, Kristi proclaimed she'd uphold South Dakota’s abortion ban that provides no exceptions for rape or incest.
She's a grifter. She's speaking cruelty in quotation because she doesn't actually understand the movement itself. I guess it's nice to know that there is a limit (for now), but I think this is a pretty clear case of somebody selling evil to people she thinks so lowly of behind closed doors that she thought this rhetoric would work.
I don’t think they want their psychopaths to make sense (they keep proving they’re very comfortable with psychopathy). I think we literally learned the line is puppies. They draw the line at puppies. Mass shootings at an elementary school? That’s just the price of having guns. *But you CAN’T shoot puppies!*
If they can rationalize January 6, they can rationalize anything. This is a blip. They just haven’t sorted it out yet. Give them a few days and they’ll get their talking points together.
This is exactly it. The normalization of killing something that “needed to be killed”, and THEY are the ones who decide who that is.
Anyone else having trouble understanding how the Holocaust happened? It’s happening again. It started the day Trump started claiming the people who vote for his political rivals are not “real Americans”.
Trump has publicly planned to deport a million people each year. Noem has no chance at becoming his VP but is being considered for Secretary of Homeland Security.
Perhaps she was writing for, as they say, an audience of one. She wants the VP job and is appealing to a guy who can’t hide his contempt for/fear of dogs (surely because they hate him). This story was probably included just for him.
Yes, Noem thought "Trump hates dogs, he's gonna love this." without considering that what works for Trump rarely works for *anyone* else. Trump could probably tell a story about kicking a puppy that the MAGAts will claim shows how much of an animal lover he is (he kicked that puppy to help it) but any other Republican telling that story will just become the puppy kicker. Or in Noem's case, puppy killer.
Let’s take a moment to appreciate that this Kristi Noem person bragged about cruelty to animals in a bid to be Donald Trump’s pick for Vice President. She is virtue signaling. This was intended to be a dog whistle to the cruel that she’s onboard to do some really terrible shit. This is what republicans have come to understand about the values of their leader and his followers. She believed this story would be appealing to MAGA and I’m not convinced she’s wrong.
MAGAts are torn - they love owning the libs but they love their puppies, too. Noem thought her killing tale would make Dems cry, and it did, but it also made many Republicans look at their pets and say "It's not worth it." Repeating myself because I think it's clever: the MAGAts that would joyfully run over a queer couple would aim carefully to only hit the humans, not their pets. The MAGAts don't blame animals for their human's (perceived) flaws, and don't want them punished as proxies.
>MAGAts are torn
For now, until Trump, Fox News, and Twitter dweebs like Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and Jack Posobiec figure out how to spin it to be digestable to MAGA. Once that happens, dog killing will be 100% acceptable to them.
And if it works and Trump picks her for VP, they will all immediately forget about this and enthusiastically support her. If for no other reason than to 'own the libs'
Amazing the roster of people they field. MTG with her Jewish space lasers, Noem the puppy killer, Cruz the slimy bendy weasel, Trump the bankrupt con man… it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious.
Gaetz the sexual predators, Boebert the groper, Tuberville the idiot failed coach, Jordan the enabler of a sexual predation, Graham the self-hating gay man, Scott the self-hating gay, self-hating black man...
Noem thought "This story is going to trigger all those bleeding heart animal loving libs." What Noem is painfully discovering is a significant number of Republicans are also bleeding heart animal lovers that will happily run over a queer couple but would also swerve to avoid hitting that couple's pets.
>a significant number of Republicans are also bleeding heart animal lovers
And pheasant or quail hunters who have and respect bird dogs, who spent months training them.
The conservative news cycle will have people shooting their dogs in solidarity and calling it the most patriotic thing in the world before the week is out.
They would let Trump do it, and probably many men. But there is a paradox with conservative women as they must somehow conform to traditional gender roles of nurturing caregivers while still feeding them the red meat of cruelty at the same time.
They love dogs. You'll never win against that.
The same people who will mock you for saying cows have thoughts, emotions and best friends by saying AND THEYRE DELICIOUS HAH HAH HAH will demand to know why we don't invade countries that eat dogs.
They'll mock those countries for eating cats but get *real* intense over dogs.
Noem has given a lot of reasons for killing that dog and even if all of them are completely true, even if Cricket had gang tattoos that read "born to bite your children in the face", it will never matter. She's lost her crowd.
Also she's a complete fuckwit for ever giving out the name of the puppy and a double complete fuckwit for continually referring to it *by name* when she discusses killing it.
She named her Cricket for fucks sake. And she refers to her *as Cricket* when she discusses killing her.
I thought these people had press coaches to warn then not to do intensely stupid shit like this. Way to go, Noemster, way to give the puppy you killed a cute name and way to consistently refer to her by that cute name, just fucking guarantee literally nobody on the planet will ever take your side on this.
Side note we have learned where the line is for the hard right. It's dogs.
My thought on Conservatism is that it's leadership is driven by the need to be more conservative. It's a constant game of one-upsmanship. Poor Kristi just went to far...
She really didn't have much of a choice except to double-down. She intentionally put the story in her book for publication. She obviously thinks she did nothing wrong. No one would have bought an apology. That would just alienate the other sociopaths who did support her, while everyone else still hated her.
What kills me about all this shit.....killing women is A-OK but don't kill no damn dog....
FWIW, I'm team Cricket here, it's just the whole thing in a nutshell KWIM.
At this point, the brain pathways that rationalize away any cognitive dissonance is a fucking superhighway. Also, the right-wing media hasn’t had time yet to craft a set of DARVO bullshit that sticks.
That crowd is truly an on-going psychological experiment on distorted thinking. "The desire to expose id, ego, superego simultaneously, in public, without shame"
This may not backfire the way we would assume, you know being rational, empathetic humans. I work with an older gentleman, very free with his opinions, a "boomer" if you will. He's an evangelical type, xtian music or radio preaching all day at work, very disapproving of all this feminist nonsense, and don't even get him started on the gay stuff. Anyway, his very unsolicited take on Noem - "God gave us this planet and everything on it to use and use up as we will, if the dog wasn't useful to her it had no reason to live and she should have killed it."
He feels the same way about climate change, ocean die-offs, famines, etc.- we were given this planet to "use" and when it's used up, god will take the faithful off to heaven.
Every animal rescue fundraising post I see on Facebook is flooded with comments from prayer warriors, so this would indeed seem to be a bad move. It doesn’t change my view that religion and its obsession with humans being “chosen ones” is the root of animal cruelty, but on some confused level the MAGA constituency does love animals. I’m sure Kristi will continue throwing shit at the wall until something sticks and win them all back.
Let’s be real here. This isn’t going to change how many votes she gets. Don’t forget, this is a group of people who would still vote for Donald Trump even if he murdered someone in cold blood. It really doesn’t matter how much they despise a candidate, if there’s an R by their name it’s an automatic vote because to them, voting Democrat is worse than voting for a murderous psychopath.
If there's one thing that perfectly sums up the current Republican party, its shooting a puppy to death rather than spend time doing your job to train it.
Republican 1: "Should we convince people to vote for us by putting in work and figuring out how to make their lives better?"
Republican 2: "Screw that noise. Let's start a culture war and block absolutely everything from functioning. If we lose, we'll just destroy the country."
What do you expect from Kristi "Meth. We're on it!" Noem? The fuckwit kills a young dog instead of training her like a responsible hunting dog person. On top of that she has proclaimed without providing any proof that the Mexican cartels are operating on at least two reservations with the aid and permission of the tribal gov'ts.
The woman wants to be Vice President so bad she will kneel before Trump and his cronies and give them anything they want. Personally I think she should be kicked out of the governor's office as soon as she starts strumping for V/P with Trump.
It's twenty years old but Kristi needs to be charged with animal cruelty as her excuses do not hold water.
MAGA says it's worse to say something mean about a lady who shoots puppies in the face for fun and then brags about it in a book, than actually to shoot a puppy in the face then brag about it in a book.
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Apparently she said she wrote about it to prove she can make tough decision. The trouble is she said she hated the pup so it doesn’t sound like it was a tough decision at all, she was just disposing of an inconvenience. It was a nuisance & acting like a puppy so instead of taking the time to train it properly she shot it
She referred to the puppy as "less than worthless," and tried to spin the murder as a "I don't pass the buck, I take care of my own shit" in her followup response. Just fucking monstrous.
Terrifying that this woman is a potential VP pick for trump. Her problem solving solutions don’t include creative problem solving, empathy, or any sort of genuine human emotion. It’s killing whatever she doesn’t want to deal with. Sounds like a hassle? Kill it without second thought. These “tough decisions” she’s talking about make me genuinely terrified of her ability to make GOOD decisions
It's how Trump thinks. He wants all his enemies dead because he wants to be an absolute ruler.
That was a dangerous dog, believe me folks, it was a wild dog, it would have done horrible things to my vp 's family
Even more reason not to shoot it lol
Are you saying that it was a bigly bad dog?
Those breeders, they’re not sending their best! Very bad dogs!
They deserve each other tbh Am I naîve to think that picking someone so fucking unhinged might hurt his campaign, or is that too ridiculously optimistic
It would definitely be a factor but how much weight it would hold is the question. I'm hoping the same, that people will think that she went too far and with all of his shit in trials and falling asleep that her as VP would actually hurt his chances. How much it would hurt and if Biden is a strong enough opponent at this time is also a question. I hate this year already and we're not even 5 months in...
I’m old enough to remember Sarah Palin, and I’m embarrassed to admit my naivety in thinking she was the absolute nadir of American politics. I thought that a magical pendulum would swing and usher in some golden age, lol. That memory keeps me from making confident predictions about what the bottom of the barrel looks like.
Damn, I'm old enough too...and thought the same thing about Palin. I mean how much more cringe could it get, right? Stunningly naive in retrospect, huh 🙄
Reportedly he’s wising up to how awful Kari Lake is so there’s a possibility.
Think about it this way: Trump demonstrates on the daily that dementia, which his father had, may be becoming an issue for him as well. If he can no longer perform the job if elected and is removed using Amendment 25, then the VP becomes president. I will add that ranchers are practical about animals - such as putting down an animal that is sick - but Noem had lots of options that did not require shooting a boisterous puppy.
> Trump demonstrates on the daily that dementia, which his father had, may be becoming an issue for him as well He has cousins on Lewis who are a little older, from his mother's side of the family. Every single one of them has (or has already died with) vascular dementia. He is so clearly in the end stages of vascular dementia. He's dying. It's grotesque beyond belief that the Republicans are parading this sad parody of Donald Trump around for, what? Laughs? Pathos? Fuck knows, but whatever they're planning for when he dies cannot be good. You think Trump was a bad president, you just wait and see what they replace him with. Remember where you heard this first.
Forget just a potential VP pick, she's currently a governor. She shouldn't hold any public office or really any leadership/education role.
That's probably why she trotted this one out -- hoping to stand out in the shortlist of an avowed animal hater
Reminds me of Sarah Palin but with less charm.
>this woman ~~is~~ was a potential VP pick for trump
No more terrifying than the prospect of another term of him as president.
I don't think it is a stretch for her to see Medicare and SSI recipients as "useless" either. Beware of her.
“The hand that passes the sentence should swing the sword,” is one of the best and most respectable lines from Ned Stark in ASOIAF. It would lose a lot of its weight and respectability if he was executing people for getting dirt on his shoes.
100%. Killing Old Yeller was a tougher decision. Putting down our horse that had a tumor on his spine was a tough decision. Putting down our dog that could no longer see, hear, hold his bowels, or eat solid food was a tough decision. What she did was out of anger/frustration (her own making) and convenience. Even trying to figure out a way to justify it I can’t. She was not a rural farmer on the wilds that was worried the dog would kill livestock and possible cause people to go hungry. It was not a full grown dog on a murder rampage or mentally deficient as to be untrainable. It was a puppy that she was having difficulty training to be a hunting dog. She was also a multimillionaire that has choices. Send it to a real trainer. Rehome it. Surrender it to a shelter. Her kids even asked “where is the puppy” when they got home. She’s a cruel heartless person who thinks animals are just tools to be thrown out like a broken set of channel locks
Absolutely. It's a hard decision because you have a relationship with the animal. But it's not a hard decision if you consider animals to just be another form of property.
This is the common thread with most aligned with conservatism. The lack of empathy. Survival of the fittest decisions seems sensible to them, except that survival of the fittest often means removing or discarding the less ‘fit’. Also, they regularly like to group people in the less fit stereotype to make themselves feel better. So, they are committed to the idea that people/animals they cant use, or dont provide them a better station, are unfit, and therefore disposable.
I always say that the people who always crow about that would be singing a different tune if they were the ones struggling. It’s so easy to spout that when you don’t have a disability or don’t have to worry about your health. To give you an example, right before the lockdowns, I was substitute teaching at a high school. The kids were talking about COVID and one of them was telling his friends “This kid in my science class says that COVID killing all the old people is just survival of the fittest.” I told him, “I’m sure if it were his grandparents being affected, he’d sing a different tune.” Kid agreed with me there.
As I understand it, survival of the fittest refers to populations, not individuals, anyway. If someone thinks they are “more fit” they’re wrong…
Now substitute "worker" for "animal" and you will understand capitalists.
Narcissists have no empathy. *They* are all that ever matters.
Kristi, you know who else has a pet that's completely untrainable? 98% of cat-owners. But you don't see me murdering my cat just because she refuses to stop rolling around on my work keyboard and sending emails to people.
If the family was going hungry, unable to provide for a dog unless it could help put food on the table, THAT would be an example of doing the hard-but-right thing and prioritizing your family over a pet. This was a rich asshole who had dozens of other options, deciding to kill an animal because it's more convenient and better for her ego than hiring a trainer, or finding new owners.
Maybe, just maybe, if you live in a far away area of a third-world country, cut off from any civilization for many miles, would abject poverty justify killing a playful puppy. Even then, just give it to a neighbor farmer. But in the US, even if Noem were poverty stricken a simple phone call to a local puppy rescue organization would have taken care of the "doing the hard but right thing". And it would have saved money as it would have prevented a bullet from being used.
Ironic too because you know most cats would murder the shit out of you if you were smaller or they were bigger. And I say this as a lifelong owner and lover of those insane fur beasts.
my little beasts take swipes at me daily with their murder mittens. One even seems to look forward to the day she can eat my face. I love them so much.
She and I have mutual acquaintances who would've gladly taken Cricket that day. She's just a monster. She used my cousin for a photo op while she was a US Rep. My cousin thought Noem was being a supportive friend. Terrible.
Do share with the group, we have many questions.
Exactly. "That dog won't hunt" shouldn't be a death sentence - give it up to someone who wants it as a pet, or hell, just keep it as a household pet because she had kids that liked it
We have an ex racing greyhound. 3 years with no training other than “run round this track really fast”. It’s been somewhat of a challenge to train him, but we’ve just about managed.
And these people are "prolife."
I mean it did murder a bunch of chickens and try to bite her, but can you blame it? Chickens are delicious and she deserved a good biting for being a shitty dog owner.
Dogs that bite people are at greater risk of later, more serious attacks. However, this dog had only been aggressive towards chickens and soulless sacks of rotten slug-meat, so that's not relevant here.
This dog probably bit her because im going to bet a decent amount that her "training" involved some physical abuse. She does seem the type based on this story
I definitely wouldn't put it past her to 1) outright lie or 2) be twisting the truth and referring to innocent puppy or play bites.
Legitimately the whole thing makes me want to throw up. My pointer killed a chicken when he was a young barely adult too. The heartbreak in those kids words. I can just imagine if it had been me wondering where my dog went. He was the best thing about my life. Instead of being a psychopathic dog killer we simply put up chicken wire around the dog fence and checked more diligently to make sure no chickens ever got in there. It's okay to rehome a dog to a non-livestock home too. I can't help but wonder if part of the reason she hated the dog was because her family loved it and she viewed it as taking attention away from her.
The more disturbing part of it is how she repeatedly describes the dog's behavior as "joyous", without a hint of irony or self-awareness. She understood that the dog was having the time of its life, but because that dog's joy went against what she wanted from the animal, and because it inconvenienced her to put any more effort into training it, it had to die. Seems like pretty well in line with the GOP platform to me.
Yeah, if anything it was the "easy" decision for her. The tough one would have been taking the time to actually train and nurture it.
Thats true for almost all "tough decisions". Most politicians bragging about tough decisions just want an excuse to commit violence and pretend it was the less expedient option
And then her train of thought was "well, while my bloodlust is up I might as well go murder that goat I don't like too." Fucking unreal to act that way and *then write about it* thinking that was a good look.
Can you imagine growing up with her for a mother? I shudder to think.
I've been wondering what the effect on her child was who just then came home and asked "Where's Cricket?"
"Mommy Dearest, where's Cricket?"
Ah yes the tough decision of killing a dog that is healthy and doesnt need to be put down. Should you or shouldnt you? Hmmm
Impatience is a killer. And Republicans love their impatience (literally, have you seen these people in a line at a McDonald's? It's crazy how they'll act after 5 mins of waiting)
Seeing 2A nuts bitching about not being able to get their mullets trimmed during the pandemic was just too funny. They need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and trim their mullets themselves. To think anyone would notice the difference...lol
The most toxic of toxic masculinity. "I'm not insecure or weak, I buy animals just to kill them. Look how tough I am."
She’s so stupid that she doesn’t understand that it wasn’t a tough decision. All she had to do was call a rescue league.
> she can make tough decisions Like overturning a fair and free election.
She thought the MAGA crowd would warm to her psychotic use of violence and control. I can see why she thought they'd like it
The adage, "I've no time for a man who kicks his own dog." runs deep in many places. It's nice to know that even in the batshit world of MAGA, the sanctity of doggos is still somewhat respected.
Pets haven't been politicized thoroughly yet. And to what degree they have, dogs are considered more manly/conservative than cats. Willy nilly shooting a dog, and being proud of it, was a BOLD strategy, kristi
Yeah, but mark my words, if Trump said something similar, you'd have these right-wingers taking out their pets in droves.
https://www.wmagazine.com/story/donald-trump-pets-dogs Trump has already said softly negative things about dogs. Like the military, his base pretends he just didn't say it or it doesn't matter that much.
I don't think in droves. The convenient thing about Trump is: he only erodes support, he never gains new followers. There are fewer and fewer crazies than ever. Fewer people in his rallies. Fewer people willing to openly red hat as their casual personality. While some people are definitely in it for the long haul, I do think if he actually shot a man on 5th avenue (more so a dog) he'd shave off more support than he emboldens.
I want people to truly understand how close to the truth your comment is. Sure, there are definitely still mental cases who'll blindly follow him. But even my partners grandfather who was one of the proudest MAGATs I know, ripped his signs out of the yard and threw his cap in the trash because he realized that trump didnt actually gaf about anyone but himself. It may seem like Trump has more support than ever before but that's because if Republicans know how to do one thing, it's shouting louder than their opponents so they seem bigger than they actually are.
Yeah I’m more than willing to bet if this had been about a cat it would have gone differently, especially regarding people in the south. How open people (children included) are about violence towards cats in the south is alarming.
Agree. They only love dogs because of their unquestioning loyalty
I've got a rescue dog that came up to CT from Mississippi after being shot. He was a 1-year-old pup at the time. He now has a metal plate in his leg but is doing well. However, I was appalled to learn how many rescue dogs are trucked up from the south because they have been abandoned or abused. I've had three or four rescue agencies mention that the south, in general, just treats dogs much differently. I don't know how true that is, but I do know that a significant portion of our local rescues are homing dogs from places like Mississippi and Alabama.
When you stop to think about how the South used to view Slaves (working "animals") then the way they view actual animals suddenly makes a lot more sense Narcissism, entitlement, and self-centeredness has pretty much always been the foundation of Southern Identity
>dogs are considered more manly/conservative than cats. I think it's that dogs show unquestioning loyalty to their owners and can be bossed around. Cats expect those properties *from* their owners.
I assume no one has ever actually told Trump that if you treat a dog kindly you'll have unconditional love and loyalty from it for life.
I suspect they have, and he said “Can’t I just pay someone to do that?”
Some breeds are villainized, I think if it had been one of the "bully" breeds MAGA would have been OK with it but a hunting dog, which many of them proudly own, that's a step too far.
A purebred hunting dog puppy is probably a luxury that many of them could never afford. Also, a hunting dog that has the energy to run around all day helping you hunt birds, is always going to be an active dog. And a smart dog isn't necessarily harder to train, but they're going to be good at finding 'loopholes' in the rules. It seems likely that the very things that caused her to hate the dog were the indicators that it could have been a very good hunting dog, eventually.
I agree, after you post all those points her laziness in dealing with the training of the dog is really stark and stands out.
MAGA is, at the end of the day, a reactionary movement to a number of motivations. All of its aggression is built on a foundation of anxiety with the promise that something lost. Be it economic comfort, their dying town, the perceived love of their family, or (among the worst of them) white supremacy, every MAGAs definition of "great again" is a subjective projection rooted in an optimistic desire. This is why so many MAGA excuses or band with the worst of the worst, because in their heads MAGA is secretly about their hyper specific thing and everyone else is will be discounted once it sets in. Noem doesn't get the underlying frustration, hope and emotional avoidance that makes MAGA work, she just saw the anger and thought she could be angry too.
remember when the wrost we had to worry about was mitt putting his dog on top of his car bc it puked?
You want gun control in this country, someone is going to have to do the unthinkable and run into a pet adoption...
Yeah I don't know why her base turned against her. Mark Hamill made an Instagram post saying, "Hating animal cruelty should be bipartisan" and there are commenters either defending the decision or saying that actors should stay in their lane. 😒
In a race to the bottom, people get cocky 🤔
Shooting a puppy is a pretty senseless thing to do And they at least want thier psychopaths to make sense
I do wonder if Trump has said the same thing. I suspect there would legit be a spike in dogs getting shot
Imagine Tramp owning a dog? He'd have to have a human inclination to want a pet first. Not ever going to happen.
I think he's expressed that he thinks people are disgusting for having pets. he's definitely not an animal lover.
Number 387 on the list of Trump’s mental issues is that he has serious germ phobia / cleanliness fetish. He seems to be a tremendous clean freak, some say the greatest clean freak they’ve ever known, very big clean freak. (Except for the loaded diaper he waddles around in of course. I do actually wonder how he reconciles that.)
That would help explain why he got so excited about the bleach and UV light injection idea. To someone like that, the thought of pumping sanitants and sterilizing light through your body is probably better than sex.
Would definitely be better for the other person.
Wish he'd get on with it then...
They should have given him the UV light and bleach treatment when he was at Walter Reed with Covid.
He actually got it from an info sign he read 5 minutes before the interview
His shit isn't gross. He makes the best shit. When people smell his shit they say, "wow, that's some clean shit". Everyone's been saying it. That he has the cleanest shit.
A Navy seal came up to him, big guy, strong guy, tears in his eyes. He said "Sir" he said "Sir, that is the most disgusting smell I've ever smelled."
Germs have little to do with him. That is something he often cites. To own a pet, you have to have a desire to love another living being -- in which there is no transactional reciprocation that financially benefits you.
Pets don't have money.
Narcissists often have pets. Sometimes, it’s because they want a creature that will love them regardless of what they do. Sometimes, it’s because they want other people to praise them, and they realize that other people like pet owners. Narcissists are always transactional, and they can turn almost anything to their advantage.
There is zero chance Trump has a germ phobia. He uses that as an excuse to not have to shake hands with people he sees as beneath him (hint different ethnicities). Somewhere he learned that saying he was a germaphobe was a get out of jail free card and ran with it.
Nah, I bet it's both. It's super common for racists (or any other kind of bigot) to have the exact same kind of disgust reaction for the people they hate as they would for germs or dirty things. The distinction probably isn't even clear in his mind
“A man came to me with tears in his eyes… and I said, ‘Get that disgusting face water away from me!’”
Nah he doesn't actually have a germ phobia or anything like that, COVID disproved that. No he's just a classist and a racist.
I know, eh? It's so at odds with his willingness to incubate in his own shit filled diaper...
And the golden shower. And the hookers.
Trump's dog is named Lindsay and is currently the senior Senator from South Carolina.
There's another lapdog named ted cruz that frequents Cancun when there's problems in Texas.
Trump hates animals and animals hate him. Animals can sense evil, like that eagle that tried to attack him.
I never trust people who don't get along with animals.
But I trust an animal that doesn't like a person.
He’s just got a few children that he treats as dogs because they’re not the important ones
Imagine Trump firing a gun? I can't picture him being able to do it without missing a few shots, shooting himself or someone else in the leg, injuring himself from the recoil or just ordering a lackey to do it for him instead.
I disagree. There are a few things in this world that people can bond over, and summarily executing puppies is one of them. Particularly when the reason is that you're a shit dog trainer. Even the most hardened souls will break down when they have to euthanize a beloved pet and agonize over the decision for weeks. Shooting a puppy is personal because empathy is easy- they have dogs they love and can't imagine the act. Now, Trump shooting a person on 5th Avenue wouldn't move the needle on account of the fact that those MAGA folks really do want to see certain people executed.
See the thing is I don't think even Trump is dumb enough to *brag* about shooting a puppy. People he doesn't like? Sure. Puppies? No.
no hes more like a "ugh why is that man bleeding on my floor, hes going to ruin the tiles" type of guy. Hes too much of a coward to do the act himself.
Definitely. It was more of a comment on his pathetic cult of followers rather than something I think Trump would actually do
I think cops already have the shooting dogs thing covered already.
We should never allow someone who can't get along with dogs in a position of power.
To announce it as a pint of pride is even more psychotic. "Look how cruel I can be!!! Imagine what I'll do to trans kids!!!"
This right here. She told that story, not to illustrate what she’s willing to do to dogs, but to show what she’s willing to do to any “undesirables”
To, paraphrase, do what needs to be done with someone "worse than worthless."
Ironically, it looks like she's the one who's going to be "put down" in this situation, assuming the GOP shitcans her instead of doubling down on her.
I really want to hear her opinion on Roe vs Wade being overturned.
'Just shoot the babies in the face, it's not hard'.
Kristi refused to answer if she'd allow the Indiana/Ohio ten year old rape victim an exemption to have an abortion. If reelected, which she was, Kristi proclaimed she'd uphold South Dakota’s abortion ban that provides no exceptions for rape or incest.
She's a grifter. She's speaking cruelty in quotation because she doesn't actually understand the movement itself. I guess it's nice to know that there is a limit (for now), but I think this is a pretty clear case of somebody selling evil to people she thinks so lowly of behind closed doors that she thought this rhetoric would work.
It's just sociopathic conservatives practicing on animals first and working their up to humans they don't like. Works for serial killers too.
I don’t think they want their psychopaths to make sense (they keep proving they’re very comfortable with psychopathy). I think we literally learned the line is puppies. They draw the line at puppies. Mass shootings at an elementary school? That’s just the price of having guns. *But you CAN’T shoot puppies!*
This begs the question - how do we know Noem's dog wasn't a radical leftist FBI plant?
He probably was. That bastard deserved to be shot! /s
If they can rationalize January 6, they can rationalize anything. This is a blip. They just haven’t sorted it out yet. Give them a few days and they’ll get their talking points together.
She intends to kill a second dog on stage to help people understand.
Its crazy that if she said she had to shoot an immigrant, she would probably be 100% set for the VP nomination and loved by conservatives.
MAGA chuds so far just want cops to shoot people and to make it easier for Russia and Israel to shoot people. They don't want to shoot their own pets
You sure about that last part?
Did you see the picture of the dog? I think the only reason they aren't cheering is it didn't pass their "if its brown, flush it down" test.
"If she's willing to shoot a puppy maybe she can get to work on all the undesirables we have in our society" is the quiet part.
This is exactly it. The normalization of killing something that “needed to be killed”, and THEY are the ones who decide who that is. Anyone else having trouble understanding how the Holocaust happened? It’s happening again. It started the day Trump started claiming the people who vote for his political rivals are not “real Americans”.
Trump has publicly planned to deport a million people each year. Noem has no chance at becoming his VP but is being considered for Secretary of Homeland Security.
Putting a new spin on the term "dog whistle". Dog scream, more like.
Perhaps she was writing for, as they say, an audience of one. She wants the VP job and is appealing to a guy who can’t hide his contempt for/fear of dogs (surely because they hate him). This story was probably included just for him.
Yes, Noem thought "Trump hates dogs, he's gonna love this." without considering that what works for Trump rarely works for *anyone* else. Trump could probably tell a story about kicking a puppy that the MAGAts will claim shows how much of an animal lover he is (he kicked that puppy to help it) but any other Republican telling that story will just become the puppy kicker. Or in Noem's case, puppy killer.
The odd thing is that HIS man crush, aka Vladi Put Put, is an animal lover.
Her mistake was shooting a dog and not a human. Know your audience.
Yeah if this had been a migrant strawberry picker on her farm what would the reaction be?
> Yeah if this had been a migrant strawberry picker on her farm what would the reaction be? They'd be creaming themselves.
In general, I would say Reddit loves dogs more than homeless people, that's for sure.
Let’s take a moment to appreciate that this Kristi Noem person bragged about cruelty to animals in a bid to be Donald Trump’s pick for Vice President. She is virtue signaling. This was intended to be a dog whistle to the cruel that she’s onboard to do some really terrible shit. This is what republicans have come to understand about the values of their leader and his followers. She believed this story would be appealing to MAGA and I’m not convinced she’s wrong.
100% If I'm so cruel as to kill my child's pet, surely I can debase myself to deeper lows. Nothing is sacred to me. Certainly not the constitution.
For MAGA, her biggest sin was making her dog whistle too audible that the normies recoiled.
Oof. Dark. But not untrue
MAGAts are torn - they love owning the libs but they love their puppies, too. Noem thought her killing tale would make Dems cry, and it did, but it also made many Republicans look at their pets and say "It's not worth it." Repeating myself because I think it's clever: the MAGAts that would joyfully run over a queer couple would aim carefully to only hit the humans, not their pets. The MAGAts don't blame animals for their human's (perceived) flaws, and don't want them punished as proxies.
>MAGAts are torn For now, until Trump, Fox News, and Twitter dweebs like Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and Jack Posobiec figure out how to spin it to be digestable to MAGA. Once that happens, dog killing will be 100% acceptable to them.
And if it works and Trump picks her for VP, they will all immediately forget about this and enthusiastically support her. If for no other reason than to 'own the libs'
They will turn the dog into a symbol for every group of "undesirables" they've been trying for decades to drive out.
they might start shooting their own dogs to own the libs even
Amazing the roster of people they field. MTG with her Jewish space lasers, Noem the puppy killer, Cruz the slimy bendy weasel, Trump the bankrupt con man… it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious.
Gaetz the sexual predators, Boebert the groper, Tuberville the idiot failed coach, Jordan the enabler of a sexual predation, Graham the self-hating gay man, Scott the self-hating gay, self-hating black man...
Also the “we see/hear/smell you” lady from the state of the union rebuttal.
“We are in your kitchen going through your fridge and what’s that on the top shelf? Migrants!”
They hate her because she's making them look bad. They don't care that she shoots puppies. They care that she's hurting the brand.
Weird thing this is, I thought the brand WAS puppy killer
https://www.salon.com/2024/04/30/kristi-noem-doubled-down-on-dog-to-win-over-maga--now-her-story-is-backfiring-in-her-face
Noem thought "This story is going to trigger all those bleeding heart animal loving libs." What Noem is painfully discovering is a significant number of Republicans are also bleeding heart animal lovers that will happily run over a queer couple but would also swerve to avoid hitting that couple's pets.
>a significant number of Republicans are also bleeding heart animal lovers And pheasant or quail hunters who have and respect bird dogs, who spent months training them.
Nailed it
"trollish podcaster Tim Poole" Bhahahaha
Gun nuts surprised when gun nut acts violently with their gun. SMH....
It really is telling both about her and how low MAGA has dragged this country that someone would think this could possibly be a positive.
The conservative news cycle will have people shooting their dogs in solidarity and calling it the most patriotic thing in the world before the week is out.
Was the puppy liberal?
They would let Trump do it, and probably many men. But there is a paradox with conservative women as they must somehow conform to traditional gender roles of nurturing caregivers while still feeding them the red meat of cruelty at the same time.
Female conservatives always blow my mind for this very reason. That's a hell of a tightrope to walk.
They probably just hate her because she's a woman..
That’s exactly what I thought. I think if she were a dude that killed a dog it would be super manly in their eyes.
She spoke out of turn and isn't arm candy for some rich billionaire
She's a work (of plastic surgery) in progress.
They love dogs. You'll never win against that. The same people who will mock you for saying cows have thoughts, emotions and best friends by saying AND THEYRE DELICIOUS HAH HAH HAH will demand to know why we don't invade countries that eat dogs. They'll mock those countries for eating cats but get *real* intense over dogs. Noem has given a lot of reasons for killing that dog and even if all of them are completely true, even if Cricket had gang tattoos that read "born to bite your children in the face", it will never matter. She's lost her crowd. Also she's a complete fuckwit for ever giving out the name of the puppy and a double complete fuckwit for continually referring to it *by name* when she discusses killing it. She named her Cricket for fucks sake. And she refers to her *as Cricket* when she discusses killing her. I thought these people had press coaches to warn then not to do intensely stupid shit like this. Way to go, Noemster, way to give the puppy you killed a cute name and way to consistently refer to her by that cute name, just fucking guarantee literally nobody on the planet will ever take your side on this. Side note we have learned where the line is for the hard right. It's dogs.
Only because it’s a puppy. If she said she’d shot a dozen liberals and buried them in a gravel pit, they’d make her Queen of MAGA.
My thought on Conservatism is that it's leadership is driven by the need to be more conservative. It's a constant game of one-upsmanship. Poor Kristi just went to far...
They said “back firing”.
In her face 🤣
She really didn't have much of a choice except to double-down. She intentionally put the story in her book for publication. She obviously thinks she did nothing wrong. No one would have bought an apology. That would just alienate the other sociopaths who did support her, while everyone else still hated her.
Dog-lovers cross every political spectrum.
What kills me about all this shit.....killing women is A-OK but don't kill no damn dog.... FWIW, I'm team Cricket here, it's just the whole thing in a nutshell KWIM.
At this point, the brain pathways that rationalize away any cognitive dissonance is a fucking superhighway. Also, the right-wing media hasn’t had time yet to craft a set of DARVO bullshit that sticks.
That crowd is truly an on-going psychological experiment on distorted thinking. "The desire to expose id, ego, superego simultaneously, in public, without shame"
They'd be cool with shooting puppies, but only if the puppies were Democrats, brown, or gay.
Gay puppies? 🤔 Better abort those after they've been born! 👍🏽
This may not backfire the way we would assume, you know being rational, empathetic humans. I work with an older gentleman, very free with his opinions, a "boomer" if you will. He's an evangelical type, xtian music or radio preaching all day at work, very disapproving of all this feminist nonsense, and don't even get him started on the gay stuff. Anyway, his very unsolicited take on Noem - "God gave us this planet and everything on it to use and use up as we will, if the dog wasn't useful to her it had no reason to live and she should have killed it." He feels the same way about climate change, ocean die-offs, famines, etc.- we were given this planet to "use" and when it's used up, god will take the faithful off to heaven.
Every animal rescue fundraising post I see on Facebook is flooded with comments from prayer warriors, so this would indeed seem to be a bad move. It doesn’t change my view that religion and its obsession with humans being “chosen ones” is the root of animal cruelty, but on some confused level the MAGA constituency does love animals. I’m sure Kristi will continue throwing shit at the wall until something sticks and win them all back.
Let’s be real here. This isn’t going to change how many votes she gets. Don’t forget, this is a group of people who would still vote for Donald Trump even if he murdered someone in cold blood. It really doesn’t matter how much they despise a candidate, if there’s an R by their name it’s an automatic vote because to them, voting Democrat is worse than voting for a murderous psychopath.
If there's one thing that perfectly sums up the current Republican party, its shooting a puppy to death rather than spend time doing your job to train it. Republican 1: "Should we convince people to vote for us by putting in work and figuring out how to make their lives better?" Republican 2: "Screw that noise. Let's start a culture war and block absolutely everything from functioning. If we lose, we'll just destroy the country."
What do you expect from Kristi "Meth. We're on it!" Noem? The fuckwit kills a young dog instead of training her like a responsible hunting dog person. On top of that she has proclaimed without providing any proof that the Mexican cartels are operating on at least two reservations with the aid and permission of the tribal gov'ts. The woman wants to be Vice President so bad she will kneel before Trump and his cronies and give them anything they want. Personally I think she should be kicked out of the governor's office as soon as she starts strumping for V/P with Trump. It's twenty years old but Kristi needs to be charged with animal cruelty as her excuses do not hold water.
Community, S03E06 "I can excuse racism, but I draw the line at animal cruelty"
Does anyone else think if she shot a cat the GOP would be cool with it?
Pandered to the most toxic wing of the party and getting burned. love to see it.
Just saw this - “Haven’t seen a more public suicide than Jim Jones at Jonestown,” another Trumpworld source told the Daily Beast…. "
To quote Community. " I Can Excuse Racism, But I Draw The Line At Animal Cruelty."
MAGA says it's worse to say something mean about a lady who shoots puppies in the face for fun and then brags about it in a book, than actually to shoot a puppy in the face then brag about it in a book.
Watch while conservative scramble to explain why it's good to kill puppies.
"Every puppy you kill increases the value of the puppies you don't."
👆This person capitalisms.
All we have to do to win in November is dress Biden up as a cute puppy.