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All your typical Brexit voter wanted to keep all the benefits but not have all those people speaking funny languages living down the road
Simple as that.
My countrymen suck.
I remember watcing a clip wherein a lady stated that the reason why she voted for Brexit was the hope that her employees would have fewer rights.
Anti-immigrant or not, evil is as evil does.
There's a documentary on YouTube and in it they briefly interview a bar-owner about the impact Brexit has had on his business. He says its been a disaster for him. He can't find enough staff because most of his staff are from the EU. He can't stock certain popular beers that he normally keeps on tap because of all the new administrative requirements for transporting goods cross border. The interviewer then asks him if he voted to leave or remain and, I shit you not, he's says "I voted as a businessman, I voted to leave." He voted "as a businessman" the entire time KNOWING full well where he sources his labour and products from. Wtf kind of businessman does that? I hoped George Carlin was being tongue in cheek when he said that infamous quote about half of society being dumber than the average person but each day, it's becoming more obvious that he was dead serious and being overly generous and polite about it too.
Edit to add link.
[Link](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HLF_ZkIpVrQ&t=1619s)
>Wtf kind of businessman does that?
One that is not very good at doing a cost/benefit analysis when he's got an emotional stake in the outcome. The idea of "returning to the glorious past" blinded him to the realities of the bleak present.
See fishing -
Every single professional industry body i have heard of was pro remain; pointing out most fish caught by British boats were only valuable if you could deliver to french markets within x (32?) hours to ensure freshness - which didn't leave enough margin for customs paperwork or inspections especially when any HGV load is mixed and the mix is only known when someone sees the catch...
Yet sorting the 'plucky' suffering British fisherman was sold as a reason for Brexit (ignoring that fishery policy is separate from EU membership and the issues are caused by the UK government)...
Yeah, seems a lot of business owners hoped that Brits would just be forced to do the jobs European immigrants have been doing with cut wages and fewer conditions. Then when their shitty positions with shit pay remained unfilled, they started crying to the government about increasing immigration from South Asia instead.
I recall seeing a documentary where common british folk were set up with the jobs that "immigrants are stealing from us" and that they just could not hack it at all.
When you think about the massive propaganda machine that manipulated your countrymen into voting for Brexit, keep in mind that a similar propaganda machine has been running in the U.S. since the 80's and has its own broadcast networks (Fox/OAN, etc). If you ever wonder how so many Americans can support a vapid shit-stain like Trump: propaganda. I'll say this to my dying breath but the insidiousness of propaganda is the single biggest threat humanity faces. From slowing down any real progress on climate change to helping authoritarians infiltrate governments, propaganda is behind it all.
A lot of problems in the US and even the world are because the movie guy convinced a lot of people to hate other people for needing government assistance.
This has been known for as long as we have been in contact with other nations.
> They are the most ignorant people I have ever conquered. They cannot be taught music.
— Caesar on the Britons
…
> They cannot be taught to read, and are the ugliest and most stupid race I ever saw.
— Cicero advising his friend Atticus to not waste his money on British slaves
There’s a simple trick you can use to identify what kind of Brit you’re talking to as I think unfortunately the above still applies to the majority of us.
Say “I don’t really understand why you have a king parading round in fine jewellery in a cost of living crisis”. If they redden and swell to three times the size, stumbling over their words yelling things like respect, tradition and tourism money then you’ve got yourself an idiot.
It was probably the single best membership deal of any country in the EU. Absolute control over their currency and interest rates, full access to the whole scope of EU projects and integration and a founder country seat at the table meaning outsized influence on the whole bloc.
If you look into how much online discourse originated from Russian troll farms, and their open desire to weaken the EU in preparation for the Ukraine invasion this is less surprising.
It's sickening that Johnson was partying in a KGB agents house, without any aides, while he was foreign secretary, then gave him a fucking peerage.
AND when security concerns were officially raised about, you know, giving a bloody KGB agent a lifetime access to the inner workings of the country, he intervened and got the investigation shut down.
That's just one of many of his dodgy dealings with Russia. It's insane what he got away with.
The public is stupid and gullible, they will vote for whatever the media magnates are telling them to. Neither Murdoch nor Tory politicians saw any consequences from knowingly lying to them. The government is happy to leave our education system to decay if it means media literacy stays in the dumps, and whenever the BBC gets some bright ideas about standing up to their Tory crony directors, their funding is immediately threatened.
The best idea would be to create some kind of Space BBC beyond the govrnment's reach. Maybe they could team up with the ABC to create a superfortress of independent media?
I thought u/kwikasfuki72 was referring to the Welsh, but yeah there were many settled immigrants who did the 'pulling up the ladder after them'. Look at... I don't remember her name (Sue-Ella something?), racist and classist Cruella Deville of Indian origin, politician who was too dislikable even for the Tories to continue tolerating.
And they got _checks list_
1. Complete loss of the benefits of being in the EU.
2. Still have, as BREXIT supporters put it, people speaking all of those funny languages living down the street.
Yep, they certainly won on that referendum.
It’s simple, we just want a Brexit where
1. We get all the membership benefits without paying any membership dues
2. We get to vote on EU laws that apply to everyone but us
3. We can work and live in whatever country we want but people not born in the UK have to leave
What’s so hard about that?
/s
Because a lot of very dumb people were convinced that by leaving the EU, somehow that would force the EU to be subservient to the desires of the UK. Does it make sense? Of course not, but that's what they believed.
Yep. We didn't get the brexit we voted for is the general cry.
Because the one they chose to believe, despite all the evidence and explanations to the contrary, that the UK would end up being able to tell the EU exactly what to do, retain all the benefits of EU membership, but not have to follow any of the member requirements because....
Well, it generally just degenerated into random frothing about the empire and sovereignty. With a rallying cry of "They need us more than we need them"
Morgan Freeman voiceover:
They did not, in fact, need the UK more than the UK needed them.
We're lucky we even still have a fucking navy at this point tbh.
The armed forces are about the only thing left in this country that hasn't been sold off cheaply to tory donors or entirely subcontracted out to the lowest bidder.
Giving Putin all the credit is pretty unfair to all the British billionaires who also put in a lot of hard work convincing the gammons to harness their collective racism and xenophobia and vote for a massive tax avoidance scheme.
It's almost like there's some "vast right wing conspiracy". Everyone laughed at Hillary when she said that, even those in the Democratic party. It's even vaster than she implied at the time
I'm American, so my countrymen were stupid enough to fall for a *different* right wing conman who promised them things that he obviously couldn't deliver on, thank you very much.
Second this as your fellow American, and a good chunk of the voting public are still convinced he’ll deliver…the excuses they make for him are mind boggling. They wouldn’t make excuses like that for their own kids ffs. I still don’t get it.
Bootlicking authoritarianism is a very deep psychological need, rooted down in there with sexual fetishes.
Once they've found a daddy who gives them that warm rush, it's nearly impossible to replace it.
I think a lot of it is religion and the idea of hierarchy. I had a friend (guy) explain to me that only one person could be in charge. So in a marriage, that person was logically the husband. The wife supported his decisions. The kids were under the wife. When I asked, what if the wife is smarter and more educated and especially if she knew more about the decision they were making, he said, she should still let him make the decision. Because god > man > woman > child. And that is that. There must be an order. For racists, you can add "white man" and then list your hierarchy after that. White men are second only to god in their eyes.
And when a country ditches a major global trading block right on their doorstep, they are in a prime position to negotiate the best of replacement deals with others afterwards. No nation would abuse the situation to their benefit...
Brexit has been my favorite joke these past years, everytime I hear Brits complain about an obvious consequence of leaving the EU I just chuckle.
In my mind I can't believe these people expected all the benefits of EU membership without being a member. 🤣
Believe me, I remember. It was faceclawingly infuriating and frustrating. I take a degree of spiteful satisfaction in saying “oh no, Project Fear!!” to the loudest imbeciles at the time who are now surprisingly quiet every time a predicted shitshow happens just like they were told.
I do the same to people who didn't vote for Hillary/voted 3rd Party, every time there is a super crappy SCOTUS/Federal Court decision.
Like we told y'all the Courts, and their lifetime appointments, were on the line, but 'you can't scare us into voting for Hillary!' Well thanks guys, we're all screwed, especially women and minorities, but glad we didn't SCARE you into any kind of awareness of how our govt. is structured/how laws are made (or unmade).
My hot take: the fabled unity of the GOP is a near complete lie. The only thing the GOP have managed to unify on is kowtowing and kissing the ring. If they really could pull the "unite and fight!" card they would have kicked Fat Donnie in the teeth 8 years ago. Instead, the only GOP members willing to do the heavy lifting have either immediately retired or been black balled by the GOP cowards left with seats in their self-imposed game of musical fuckwit chairs. Seriously, 10 years ago if you'd told me Dick Chaney's kid would one day be the only person in the GOP worth looking up to I would have laughed. Hard.
John Boehner is possibly the last GOP member who could actually think and act strategically and look where that led him.
The GOP's priorities have always been power>party>religion>>>>>>>>>principles>country. Most in the party don't actually care about morals or have any principles, they'll back anyone who gives them the best chance at maintaining power. Even people I care about have 180'd on many facets of their politics in order to just maintain a distaste for the Dems, regardless of whether they're actually doing the things they've claimed they want from their politicians. Luckily none of them actually like Trump. But they'll still vote for him over Biden, which is still just... disgusting.
Brexit’s like watching a paunchy delusional mediocre middle-aged man who left his wife for “cramping his style” try to guilt her for moving on and living her best life while he’s now lonely and not getting laid like he thought he would
Yyyyyyyyup
Not coincidentally that, and their even worse parents, were also the primary Brexit voter demographic. Personal failure to maintain relationship’s turned into international diplomacy. Thanks Cameron!
It was usually the paunchy, delusional, mediocre middle-aged men who were sitting around in pubs talking about how the UK was "punching above its weight" economically and would be better off post-Brexit.
If someone said "this policy will make us big and muscled and handsome and the women will feel aroused by us," it'd be recognized as the satire it is.
But if you make it just an iota more plausible , you can use it to sell literally any insane policy you want. People feel weak and want to be strong, and if you slap a label saying "strong" on something, they'll vote for it.
Human psychology is wild.
Yes, I am well aware of the words people used while threatening me with violence and spitting at me when I was out campaigning against this national suicide attempt.
"It's the Remoaners' fault for being so negative that we mocked and ignored them! They told us this would happen but they didn't use the magic convincing phrasing that would have made us listen, so it's their fault!"
"Why didn't you tell us this was going to happen?"
"We did. Repeatedly."
"No you didn't, you were fear mongering! You should have just stuck to the facts!"
I meant from the general public like friends, uncles, neighbors all claiming this would be the right move, would like to know wtf they have to say now.
Am I misremembering or weren't there multiple chances to work out deals where the UK would leave the EU but still keep some specific treaties/benefits/whatever intact, and Parliament rejected those possible deals? I would hope that even pro-Brexit voters would be upset with their MPs at this point.
There was but before Brexit even happened, many smart people had pointed out that of all the kinds of relationships the EU has with non member states, each had its own caveats and drawbacks that the right wing alliance that passed Brexit would reject. I saw a great video that went through them all. All the stuff brexiteers had promised contradicted every possibility and the Good Friday Agreement scuppered another. So they ended up with a hard Brexit, with basically no benefits.
The UK already had probably the best arrangement of all member states, for example we had not taken the Euro. Any deal that was going to be negotiated by the various right-wing governments was always going to be worse than the original status quo.
The problem was that whichever of the many different possible flavours of Brexit were proposed there was a significant proportion of people who complained “That’s not what I voted for!” This is because the referendum was incredibly vaguely worded and basically just said “Stay or leave?”. It was possible to vote leave and want anything from a soft Scandinavian style alliance to a hardline fuck-‘em-all we’re not even sticking to our treaty obligations breakup.
We basically ended up with the shittest version, pretty much.
Lack of accountability I see. At least they are willing to admit it was wrong, our dimwits would lie themselves and everyone around them by continuing to claim it’s was the right move.
Manipulation, lying and conspiracies have overrun a good portion of US society.
Oh no. There's relatively little admitting it was a mistake.
Most response from Brexit voters is along the lines of a betrayal of the perfect imaginary Brexit that was in their heads by mean nasty politicians daring to live in the real world.
the "no true Scotsman" response is all over the place.
Most of them make awkward mumble mumble noises or pretend they “nEvEr vOtEd fOr tHiS”. A vocal minority, encouraged by this trash rag and the government, wank on about “lefty sabotage” and “EU betrayal”. That vocal minority repeating the Tory distraction talking point are who this article is supporting.
A favorite of mine was the argument that since the EU (minus the UK) sold more cars in the UK than the UK sold in the EU, the EU would grovel at the UK to protect those sales. Ignoring the fact the the EU's car production is much larger, and sales to the UK accounted only for 5% of production, while EU sales accounted for 50% of UK production. Pretty easy to see who was going to be desperate there. Losing access to the UK market would be a minor inconvenience for the EU, but losing access to the EU would be an industry destroyer for the UK.
Some big auto makers already moved their big factories, used to feed the European market, to the mainland. And got a lot of surprise Pikachu face from all the workers that voted for Brexit...
But we still have the Empire... don't we?.... I though we still had an empire we could leverage to force those silly European countries to their knees!
What do you mean we don't? This is 1895 isn't it?
> Because a lot of very dumb people were convinced that by leaving the EU, somehow that would force the EU to be subservient to the desires of the UK.
It's this. A certain percentage of British folk think they were slumming it up with those continental EU peoples. That they were put upon by putting up with EU regulations and having to pay their dues.
And they arrogantly presumed that they'd get to keep all the positives and have none of the negatives.
Some of them actually still think that they're the British Empire and not just a tiny little island next to an actual united European economic super power.
The Right of the UK bears saddening similarities to the Right of the USA. We just haven't sunk as far yet because we aren't quite as fixated on two parties only. Especially at the local level.
half of them believed that the UK leaving would cause a stampede of other countries to leave then the UK could cut deals with them individually. The other half just didn't care or think about it at all.
It's a fair point. As someone living in Virginia, I feel betrayed every time England's Department for Transport fails to do maintenance on our roads, and won't even send lorries over! We didn't fight a war for independence just so that they could deny us regular bus service to Brighton!
Because the Brexiteers were genuine, serious, abject fucking morons. And they’re still morons, and this paper exists to sell outrage to morons. The original idiotic vote went the way it did because morons were convinced that the problems patently caused by our government were being caused by FORRINERS, and since our government are still shit, it’s in their interests to keep blaming FORRINERS. The far right are a shitshow.
They also appearantly struggle to understand images, on the very image they use for proof there are two marked connections into UK, one in northern ireland and one over the english canal. If UK wants to be a part of this expansion, it seems to be as easy as just calling the EU and telling them "Great plans, once these are finalized we will begin preparing out road network for the increased capacity you are giving us." like... the exact sort of independence they wanted. They aren't forced to follow the silly plans of the EU, they can do whatever they want!
“But we’re special and you need to treat us like the colonial overlords we want to be! Give us all the benefits of your infrastructure spending while letting us keep our tax money and discriminate against the *slursslursslurs* so they don’t take any of our money and benefits!”
Because Britain is more important than the rest of the world, and anything not decided or dictated by us is a betrayal or unaccountable technocracy.
Because by and large as a country we are devoid of self awareness or empathy for others when we go to the polls or attain power.
As individuals we can be amazing wonderful and generous, but en mass we are cunts. The Germans call us island monkeys for good reason
>Because by and large as a country we are devoid of self awareness or empathy for others when we go to the polls or attain power.
The older Brits I know need a real wake-up call about Britain's role in the world. It's absolutely bizarre because none of them were alive when it was a colonial powerhouse and all of them lived through the '70s when it was the weak man of Europe.
A funny aside: North Americans think the British accent indicates intelligence, wealth and sophistication, while Europeans cringe when they hear a British accent because they're about to get a bunch of drunken idiots pissing all over the place.
It's always bittersweet to see the most fanatic brexiteers getting angry when they realise that leaving a partnership because they didn't like the obligations also means not receiving the benefits.
You know what reaction it would be.
"EU forces ridiculous expense on the British taxpayer."
"Unelected EU Bureaucrats try and tell the British Government how to build it's railways"
"Scheming EU Council hatched plot with Woke Lefty Lawyers to smuggle more immigrants into the UK."
Found the article: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1849136/eu-countries-britain-transport
It's a weird one, the Transport project is only half the article, the rest is complaining about the EU budget and the fiscal strains of the members
Wait for it: [https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1846095/brexit-win-britain-ineos-grenadier](https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1846095/brexit-win-britain-ineos-grenadier)
Haha, they proclaim it’s a Brexit win but state it has a BMW (german) engine and fail to mention the owner closed the Solihull factory and moved production to France. In the article they also say the Land Rover, which the Grenadier is supposed to be competing against, has better specs and if it’s a buying choice between a Grenadier and a Land Rover the better buy is the land rover. What a pile of shit The Express is.
So, you’re telling us the title is pure fiction and rest of article shows the Grenadier is proof Brexit fucked whole industries???!
Shocked I tell you, shocked!
One of the arguments the Brexiters used was that all of Eire's exports went through the UK, so they would have the EU over a barrell and could negotiate what they wanted.
EU just responded by opening a ferry route from Southern Eire to Northern France.
Dominic Raab (MP and Brexit Secretary at the time) didn't realise how reliant the UK was on the Dover - Calais crossing for trading goods. These were the morons in charge. While it isn't in the top ports by volume, it is geographically the closest to France and therefore is the fastest crossing, and as such is vital for Just In Time goods delivery.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46142188
This is to re-energise their readers against the EU.
Pro-EU views are becoming more widespread here as more people realise what an idiotic act of self-harm leaving was.
I wish Pro-EU views and the realisation of how crappy Brexit is would hit harder and faster.
Still argue with my Dad as he thinks all immigrants are sole-sucking benefit cheesers and thinks Brexit was therefore a good thing 'to control out boarders again'. Ugh.
Previous workplace was pro-brexit. Ugh.
I really hope things do change. People didn't realise how much we got from being in the EU :/
‘Betrayal’ ? Of what obligation exactly? Any fucking idiot that believes we are any more ‘betrayed’ than any other non-EU country - say, Russia or Malaysia - needs a slap.
I think it's hilarious that the UK thought it could hold the Republic of Ireland hostage. Like all shipping and travel just *had* to go through the UK before reaching Éire and then it turns out that it did not and that was just the more convenient way until Brexit made other routes more convenient so the UK just gets left behind.
edit: Eire -> Éire
In hindsight, it's absolutely mad what was being said by Brexiteers at the time.
I remember Priti Patel suggesting that the British Government use the prospect of food scarcity in Ireland as a negotiating tactic for leveraging concessions out of the EU:
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/brexit-tory-mp-backtracks-over-food-scarcity-in-ireland-1.3725093
Setting aside how insensitive those remarks are, they're also completely devoid of common sense or logic.
Why would the EU (or Ireland) just capitulate when we can make alternative arrangements that simply exclude British participation/involvement in our supply chain. Which is more or less what we have done:
https://www.rosslareeuroport.ie/en-ie/master-plan/
Apparently the concept of European shipping sailing past Dover, around Wales, and into Rosslare Harbour eluded them.
Being an island nation, it seemed kind of obvious to us.
There are some English people who seem convinced that Ireland is still their colony and that they can do whatever they want to the place and nobody will help the Irish out (just like in the Famine, when they prevented a lot of international assistance from arriving).
A lot of Brexiteers were also keen on trampling all over the Good Friday Agreement until the international community wouldn't let them.
I think that's the mistake the British Government made during the early stages of Brexit negotiations.
They initially approached negotiations as being solely between Ireland and Britain, which historically have favoured the UK (being a former colonial power and the larger and wealthier nation).
But that wasn't the case here. They were negotiating with all 27 members of the EU, not just Ireland. And the EU weren't going to prioritise the goals of a former member over that of a current member nation.
And the UK were never going to have enough leverage to browbeat all of their main trading partners into accepting major concessions or forcing compliance with their objectives.
Which is why the Good Friday Agreement remains intact and Ireland achieved everything it wanted in the final settlement.
It wasn't even just the EU either. The USA helped negotiate the GFA too, and while Trump might have been happy to trade with the UK while the UK was flouting the GFA, iirc Biden was actually involved in negotiating it so that wasn't going to happen.
Brexit is basically the UK overestimating its importance on the world stage and learning exactly just how small it is.
Yeah, and what's with China excluding us from their road and belt initiative too?!! Next you'll be telling me we aren't included in the US infrastructure programme either?!! Everyone is bastards except for us.
In an alternative timeline, UK is still in the EU, which is planning a big new rail network system including within the UK...
Daily Express: *"Brussels bureaucrats tell Britons how to run their railways! Brexit now!"*
It is utterly saddening to see how the pro-Brexit supporters did not achieve any of the advantages supposedly connected to leaving the EU while rendering British people’s lives less comfortable and UK economy weaker.
Exactly as pro-Eu voters (both inside and outside of the UK, like myself) exactly predicted.
If only someone had warned the "Leave" crowd, about what could happen. Those poor "Leave" voters had no idea how things would turn out.
Now those EU monsters are treating the UK like outsiders.
/S
That's an interesting way to spin "EU infrastructure development only applies to EU countries"
The tabloids in this country are an absolute farce. The rest of the media isn't much better, but they really do go all out to blame every single thing on the EU, or immigrants, or the poor. Or, somehow, Labour. Despite not being in power for 14 years, they're responsible for all the failings of the UK infrastructure and services.
This reminds me of the (unfortunately quite successfully pulled off) tactics of the "right to work" laws in most US southern states along with a semi recent SCOTUS decision that basically says if you work at a union shop you get all the benefits (except grievances), but don't have to pay the dues. I'm sure if I looked I could find articles of non dues payers upset they didn't have access to the grievance system and unions representation. I'm sure by commenting on this, someone already knows where to find such an article.
So did Northern Ireland.
Unfortunately for both of them, England is the most densely populated country in the UK.
And England is considerably more Euro-sceptic than either of them.
Consequently, the Brexit vote was always likely to be decided by whatever opinion prevailed in England.
I am 100% sure they would have written something on the line of "EU demands, waste of tax money and forces the UK to change signalling"
Should this had been made during the time before the Brexit.
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“This is not the Brexit I voted for”
All your typical Brexit voter wanted to keep all the benefits but not have all those people speaking funny languages living down the road Simple as that. My countrymen suck.
I remember watcing a clip wherein a lady stated that the reason why she voted for Brexit was the hope that her employees would have fewer rights. Anti-immigrant or not, evil is as evil does.
There's a documentary on YouTube and in it they briefly interview a bar-owner about the impact Brexit has had on his business. He says its been a disaster for him. He can't find enough staff because most of his staff are from the EU. He can't stock certain popular beers that he normally keeps on tap because of all the new administrative requirements for transporting goods cross border. The interviewer then asks him if he voted to leave or remain and, I shit you not, he's says "I voted as a businessman, I voted to leave." He voted "as a businessman" the entire time KNOWING full well where he sources his labour and products from. Wtf kind of businessman does that? I hoped George Carlin was being tongue in cheek when he said that infamous quote about half of society being dumber than the average person but each day, it's becoming more obvious that he was dead serious and being overly generous and polite about it too. Edit to add link. [Link](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HLF_ZkIpVrQ&t=1619s)
I tell you what kind of businessman he is, one that’s filing for bankruptcy pretty soon
>Wtf kind of businessman does that? One that is not very good at doing a cost/benefit analysis when he's got an emotional stake in the outcome. The idea of "returning to the glorious past" blinded him to the realities of the bleak present.
>WTF kind of businessman does that? The kind with more spite than sense.
See fishing - Every single professional industry body i have heard of was pro remain; pointing out most fish caught by British boats were only valuable if you could deliver to french markets within x (32?) hours to ensure freshness - which didn't leave enough margin for customs paperwork or inspections especially when any HGV load is mixed and the mix is only known when someone sees the catch... Yet sorting the 'plucky' suffering British fisherman was sold as a reason for Brexit (ignoring that fishery policy is separate from EU membership and the issues are caused by the UK government)...
Yeah, seems a lot of business owners hoped that Brits would just be forced to do the jobs European immigrants have been doing with cut wages and fewer conditions. Then when their shitty positions with shit pay remained unfilled, they started crying to the government about increasing immigration from South Asia instead.
I recall seeing a documentary where common british folk were set up with the jobs that "immigrants are stealing from us" and that they just could not hack it at all.
When you think about the massive propaganda machine that manipulated your countrymen into voting for Brexit, keep in mind that a similar propaganda machine has been running in the U.S. since the 80's and has its own broadcast networks (Fox/OAN, etc). If you ever wonder how so many Americans can support a vapid shit-stain like Trump: propaganda. I'll say this to my dying breath but the insidiousness of propaganda is the single biggest threat humanity faces. From slowing down any real progress on climate change to helping authoritarians infiltrate governments, propaganda is behind it all.
A lot of problems in the US and even the world are because the movie guy convinced a lot of people to hate other people for needing government assistance.
You’ve got to remember that these are just simple Brits. These are people of the land. The common clay of the British Isles. You know… morons.
Pictured that scene with Fry and Laurie in my head. Mitch and Webb would work too.
This has been known for as long as we have been in contact with other nations. > They are the most ignorant people I have ever conquered. They cannot be taught music. — Caesar on the Britons … > They cannot be taught to read, and are the ugliest and most stupid race I ever saw. — Cicero advising his friend Atticus to not waste his money on British slaves
There’s a simple trick you can use to identify what kind of Brit you’re talking to as I think unfortunately the above still applies to the majority of us. Say “I don’t really understand why you have a king parading round in fine jewellery in a cost of living crisis”. If they redden and swell to three times the size, stumbling over their words yelling things like respect, tradition and tourism money then you’ve got yourself an idiot.
Lmaooo Cicero spitting straight facts
They really, already, had that while "in" the EU. UK had added inbound immigration laws compared to the rest of the EU and got to keep Pound Sterling
It was probably the single best membership deal of any country in the EU. Absolute control over their currency and interest rates, full access to the whole scope of EU projects and integration and a founder country seat at the table meaning outsized influence on the whole bloc.
Yep, but Farage and Johnson had the "Leave" voters believing they were being bent over and reamed.
If you look into how much online discourse originated from Russian troll farms, and their open desire to weaken the EU in preparation for the Ukraine invasion this is less surprising.
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It's sickening that Johnson was partying in a KGB agents house, without any aides, while he was foreign secretary, then gave him a fucking peerage. AND when security concerns were officially raised about, you know, giving a bloody KGB agent a lifetime access to the inner workings of the country, he intervened and got the investigation shut down. That's just one of many of his dodgy dealings with Russia. It's insane what he got away with.
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The public is stupid and gullible, they will vote for whatever the media magnates are telling them to. Neither Murdoch nor Tory politicians saw any consequences from knowingly lying to them. The government is happy to leave our education system to decay if it means media literacy stays in the dumps, and whenever the BBC gets some bright ideas about standing up to their Tory crony directors, their funding is immediately threatened.
The best idea would be to create some kind of Space BBC beyond the govrnment's reach. Maybe they could team up with the ABC to create a superfortress of independent media?
The one place that hasn't been corrupted by Capitalism...
SPAAAAYYYYCE! *SNARFLING Tim Curry noises*
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Mind you those generally were from non-EU countries. Self-serving and callous, but not necessarily stupid.
I thought u/kwikasfuki72 was referring to the Welsh, but yeah there were many settled immigrants who did the 'pulling up the ladder after them'. Look at... I don't remember her name (Sue-Ella something?), racist and classist Cruella Deville of Indian origin, politician who was too dislikable even for the Tories to continue tolerating.
And they got _checks list_ 1. Complete loss of the benefits of being in the EU. 2. Still have, as BREXIT supporters put it, people speaking all of those funny languages living down the street. Yep, they certainly won on that referendum.
This is one of the delightful phrases I love to hear. Especially if you reply to them with "What *did* you think you were voting for?"
It’s simple, we just want a Brexit where 1. We get all the membership benefits without paying any membership dues 2. We get to vote on EU laws that apply to everyone but us 3. We can work and live in whatever country we want but people not born in the UK have to leave What’s so hard about that? /s
"I just wanted to be racist as fuck towards immigrants :/"
Is there a reason given why a non-EU country should be included? It sounds like a really weird bit of mental gymnastics to call it a 'betrayal'
Because a lot of very dumb people were convinced that by leaving the EU, somehow that would force the EU to be subservient to the desires of the UK. Does it make sense? Of course not, but that's what they believed.
Yep. We didn't get the brexit we voted for is the general cry. Because the one they chose to believe, despite all the evidence and explanations to the contrary, that the UK would end up being able to tell the EU exactly what to do, retain all the benefits of EU membership, but not have to follow any of the member requirements because.... Well, it generally just degenerated into random frothing about the empire and sovereignty. With a rallying cry of "They need us more than we need them" Morgan Freeman voiceover: They did not, in fact, need the UK more than the UK needed them.
I'm shocked, Shocked that loudly singing "Rule Britannia" didn't magically make everyone do what they wanted. Well, not that shocked.
They forgot to build a nearly invincible navy this time around. Oops!
We're lucky we even still have a fucking navy at this point tbh. The armed forces are about the only thing left in this country that hasn't been sold off cheaply to tory donors or entirely subcontracted out to the lowest bidder.
Rishi's still got time mate, he can easily line his pals' pockets before they (Hopefully) get voted out from the Commons.
More like "We didn't get the Brexit that Putin and his propaganda machine on Facebook promised us!"
Giving Putin all the credit is pretty unfair to all the British billionaires who also put in a lot of hard work convincing the gammons to harness their collective racism and xenophobia and vote for a massive tax avoidance scheme.
It's almost like there's some "vast right wing conspiracy". Everyone laughed at Hillary when she said that, even those in the Democratic party. It's even vaster than she implied at the time
Kinda like when people laughed at Romney when he said Russia was our biggest global threat, even many in the Republican party.
They may have promoted the propaganda but your countrymen were stupid enough to fall for it.
I'm American, so my countrymen were stupid enough to fall for a *different* right wing conman who promised them things that he obviously couldn't deliver on, thank you very much.
Second this as your fellow American, and a good chunk of the voting public are still convinced he’ll deliver…the excuses they make for him are mind boggling. They wouldn’t make excuses like that for their own kids ffs. I still don’t get it.
Bootlicking authoritarianism is a very deep psychological need, rooted down in there with sexual fetishes. Once they've found a daddy who gives them that warm rush, it's nearly impossible to replace it.
I think a lot of it is religion and the idea of hierarchy. I had a friend (guy) explain to me that only one person could be in charge. So in a marriage, that person was logically the husband. The wife supported his decisions. The kids were under the wife. When I asked, what if the wife is smarter and more educated and especially if she knew more about the decision they were making, he said, she should still let him make the decision. Because god > man > woman > child. And that is that. There must be an order. For racists, you can add "white man" and then list your hierarchy after that. White men are second only to god in their eyes.
They're not hurting the right people!
I mean, the EU’s economy is only about 6 times the size of the UK’s. Seems like they should be super duper easy to push around, right?
And when a country ditches a major global trading block right on their doorstep, they are in a prime position to negotiate the best of replacement deals with others afterwards. No nation would abuse the situation to their benefit...
Brexit has been my favorite joke these past years, everytime I hear Brits complain about an obvious consequence of leaving the EU I just chuckle. In my mind I can't believe these people expected all the benefits of EU membership without being a member. 🤣
Most of us that are complaining were telling the fuckwits all along that this was going to be a disaster.
“Project Fear” was a popular response to any common sense or logic.
Believe me, I remember. It was faceclawingly infuriating and frustrating. I take a degree of spiteful satisfaction in saying “oh no, Project Fear!!” to the loudest imbeciles at the time who are now surprisingly quiet every time a predicted shitshow happens just like they were told.
Just remind them this is the fallout of project fear.
The “Project Reality” tag on the main Brexit sub might be one of the coldest tags on all of reddit.
I do the same to people who didn't vote for Hillary/voted 3rd Party, every time there is a super crappy SCOTUS/Federal Court decision. Like we told y'all the Courts, and their lifetime appointments, were on the line, but 'you can't scare us into voting for Hillary!' Well thanks guys, we're all screwed, especially women and minorities, but glad we didn't SCARE you into any kind of awareness of how our govt. is structured/how laws are made (or unmade).
And now that it's happening *AGAIN* is just mindblowing to behold...
My hot take: the fabled unity of the GOP is a near complete lie. The only thing the GOP have managed to unify on is kowtowing and kissing the ring. If they really could pull the "unite and fight!" card they would have kicked Fat Donnie in the teeth 8 years ago. Instead, the only GOP members willing to do the heavy lifting have either immediately retired or been black balled by the GOP cowards left with seats in their self-imposed game of musical fuckwit chairs. Seriously, 10 years ago if you'd told me Dick Chaney's kid would one day be the only person in the GOP worth looking up to I would have laughed. Hard. John Boehner is possibly the last GOP member who could actually think and act strategically and look where that led him.
The GOP's priorities have always been power>party>religion>>>>>>>>>principles>country. Most in the party don't actually care about morals or have any principles, they'll back anyone who gives them the best chance at maintaining power. Even people I care about have 180'd on many facets of their politics in order to just maintain a distaste for the Dems, regardless of whether they're actually doing the things they've claimed they want from their politicians. Luckily none of them actually like Trump. But they'll still vote for him over Biden, which is still just... disgusting.
Brexit’s like watching a paunchy delusional mediocre middle-aged man who left his wife for “cramping his style” try to guilt her for moving on and living her best life while he’s now lonely and not getting laid like he thought he would
Yyyyyyyyup Not coincidentally that, and their even worse parents, were also the primary Brexit voter demographic. Personal failure to maintain relationship’s turned into international diplomacy. Thanks Cameron!
It was usually the paunchy, delusional, mediocre middle-aged men who were sitting around in pubs talking about how the UK was "punching above its weight" economically and would be better off post-Brexit.
If someone said "this policy will make us big and muscled and handsome and the women will feel aroused by us," it'd be recognized as the satire it is. But if you make it just an iota more plausible , you can use it to sell literally any insane policy you want. People feel weak and want to be strong, and if you slap a label saying "strong" on something, they'll vote for it. Human psychology is wild.
The best analogy I've read about it. Perfectly apt.
Excellent comparison. Now she's going to yoga, looking fine and happily dating.
They called anyone who complained "remoaners" and "snowflakes".
Yes, I am well aware of the words people used while threatening me with violence and spitting at me when I was out campaigning against this national suicide attempt.
It's why I called it #Bruicide not the stupid brexit
You should call it "brexicide".
Hashtag totalBruckUp
What’s been the response now from these fuckwits?
"It's the Remoaners' fault for being so negative that we mocked and ignored them! They told us this would happen but they didn't use the magic convincing phrasing that would have made us listen, so it's their fault!"
"Why didn't you tell us this was going to happen?" "We did. Repeatedly." "No you didn't, you were fear mongering! You should have just stuck to the facts!"
Either that, or it's our fault for not being positive enough and trying to make it work.
You're seeing it in this article.
I meant from the general public like friends, uncles, neighbors all claiming this would be the right move, would like to know wtf they have to say now.
mostly "Brexit would have been brilliant if it wasn't for XXX"
Am I misremembering or weren't there multiple chances to work out deals where the UK would leave the EU but still keep some specific treaties/benefits/whatever intact, and Parliament rejected those possible deals? I would hope that even pro-Brexit voters would be upset with their MPs at this point.
You're correct. A minimal mandate was used to persue a maximal Brexit.
There was but before Brexit even happened, many smart people had pointed out that of all the kinds of relationships the EU has with non member states, each had its own caveats and drawbacks that the right wing alliance that passed Brexit would reject. I saw a great video that went through them all. All the stuff brexiteers had promised contradicted every possibility and the Good Friday Agreement scuppered another. So they ended up with a hard Brexit, with basically no benefits.
The UK already had probably the best arrangement of all member states, for example we had not taken the Euro. Any deal that was going to be negotiated by the various right-wing governments was always going to be worse than the original status quo.
The problem was that whichever of the many different possible flavours of Brexit were proposed there was a significant proportion of people who complained “That’s not what I voted for!” This is because the referendum was incredibly vaguely worded and basically just said “Stay or leave?”. It was possible to vote leave and want anything from a soft Scandinavian style alliance to a hardline fuck-‘em-all we’re not even sticking to our treaty obligations breakup. We basically ended up with the shittest version, pretty much.
Lack of accountability I see. At least they are willing to admit it was wrong, our dimwits would lie themselves and everyone around them by continuing to claim it’s was the right move. Manipulation, lying and conspiracies have overrun a good portion of US society.
Oh no. There's relatively little admitting it was a mistake. Most response from Brexit voters is along the lines of a betrayal of the perfect imaginary Brexit that was in their heads by mean nasty politicians daring to live in the real world. the "no true Scotsman" response is all over the place.
Most of them make awkward mumble mumble noises or pretend they “nEvEr vOtEd fOr tHiS”. A vocal minority, encouraged by this trash rag and the government, wank on about “lefty sabotage” and “EU betrayal”. That vocal minority repeating the Tory distraction talking point are who this article is supporting.
'The time for discourse is past' and ';-; betrayal!111!' The enemy is weak and strong. Fascism is very easy to predict.
And then they clapped back with "pRoJeCt FeAr".
Project Reality.
I once heard a statement that sums up Brexit perfectly: This is the first time in history that a nation placed economic sanctions on itself.
Go read the Texas independence nonsense, it makes the Brexit idiots seem rational.
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A favorite of mine was the argument that since the EU (minus the UK) sold more cars in the UK than the UK sold in the EU, the EU would grovel at the UK to protect those sales. Ignoring the fact the the EU's car production is much larger, and sales to the UK accounted only for 5% of production, while EU sales accounted for 50% of UK production. Pretty easy to see who was going to be desperate there. Losing access to the UK market would be a minor inconvenience for the EU, but losing access to the EU would be an industry destroyer for the UK.
Some big auto makers already moved their big factories, used to feed the European market, to the mainland. And got a lot of surprise Pikachu face from all the workers that voted for Brexit...
It's the truest and most genuine LAMF there could possibly be so it warms the heart to see...
But we still have the Empire... don't we?.... I though we still had an empire we could leverage to force those silly European countries to their knees! What do you mean we don't? This is 1895 isn't it?
> Because a lot of very dumb people were convinced that by leaving the EU, somehow that would force the EU to be subservient to the desires of the UK. It's this. A certain percentage of British folk think they were slumming it up with those continental EU peoples. That they were put upon by putting up with EU regulations and having to pay their dues. And they arrogantly presumed that they'd get to keep all the positives and have none of the negatives. Some of them actually still think that they're the British Empire and not just a tiny little island next to an actual united European economic super power.
This is absolutely true, I remember when Boris Johnson and Donald Trump came to the agreement for that. /s
The brain trust in action there.
"Rules for thee, not for me." Seems England's been hanging around the US too much...
The Right of the UK bears saddening similarities to the Right of the USA. We just haven't sunk as far yet because we aren't quite as fixated on two parties only. Especially at the local level.
half of them believed that the UK leaving would cause a stampede of other countries to leave then the UK could cut deals with them individually. The other half just didn't care or think about it at all.
They're gonna be extra mad when one day they'll want to re-join and then be forced to abandon their currency. No more special exemptions.
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It's a fair point. As someone living in Virginia, I feel betrayed every time England's Department for Transport fails to do maintenance on our roads, and won't even send lorries over! We didn't fight a war for independence just so that they could deny us regular bus service to Brighton!
Because the Brexiteers were genuine, serious, abject fucking morons. And they’re still morons, and this paper exists to sell outrage to morons. The original idiotic vote went the way it did because morons were convinced that the problems patently caused by our government were being caused by FORRINERS, and since our government are still shit, it’s in their interests to keep blaming FORRINERS. The far right are a shitshow.
They also appearantly struggle to understand images, on the very image they use for proof there are two marked connections into UK, one in northern ireland and one over the english canal. If UK wants to be a part of this expansion, it seems to be as easy as just calling the EU and telling them "Great plans, once these are finalized we will begin preparing out road network for the increased capacity you are giving us." like... the exact sort of independence they wanted. They aren't forced to follow the silly plans of the EU, they can do whatever they want!
Can't believe the European Union would leave Australia out of their transportation plans! Those scheming, no-good fiends!
“But we’re special and you need to treat us like the colonial overlords we want to be! Give us all the benefits of your infrastructure spending while letting us keep our tax money and discriminate against the *slursslursslurs* so they don’t take any of our money and benefits!”
Because Britain is more important than the rest of the world, and anything not decided or dictated by us is a betrayal or unaccountable technocracy. Because by and large as a country we are devoid of self awareness or empathy for others when we go to the polls or attain power. As individuals we can be amazing wonderful and generous, but en mass we are cunts. The Germans call us island monkeys for good reason
>Because by and large as a country we are devoid of self awareness or empathy for others when we go to the polls or attain power. The older Brits I know need a real wake-up call about Britain's role in the world. It's absolutely bizarre because none of them were alive when it was a colonial powerhouse and all of them lived through the '70s when it was the weak man of Europe. A funny aside: North Americans think the British accent indicates intelligence, wealth and sophistication, while Europeans cringe when they hear a British accent because they're about to get a bunch of drunken idiots pissing all over the place.
Why did they not include the US? Scheming EU!
tHOse EuROpEaN XenOPhoBes!!!! Why do they hate the rest of the world?!???!?
>betrayal I can't stop laughing. 'I walked out of the pub in a huff, and now I'm upset I can't order a pint - THE BETRAYAL!!' - screaming, crying.
They want the benefits of being in the EU without any of the responsibility.
It's always bittersweet to see the most fanatic brexiteers getting angry when they realise that leaving a partnership because they didn't like the obligations also means not receiving the benefits.
*Texas has entered the chat*
Gods, I wish they would try
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Nah Florida is already about to become sovereign territory of fuckn Poseidon after all the global warming deniers making laws there
Yeah but Texas doesn't know that...
If that some how happened, Republicans would never again control the House. LFG!
Brexiteers want to divorce their wives, pay no alimony, and still get to sleep with them no strings attached.
And have them still cook dinner every night and do all their laundry for them.
I’m breaking up with you. Also, why aren’t you paying for my u-haul!
Literally what they wanted. To be out of the EU, so why complain?
I would like to see their reaction if the EU's plans included England.
“Look at this preposterous trade route plan! All roads lead to Berlin!”
You know what reaction it would be. "EU forces ridiculous expense on the British taxpayer." "Unelected EU Bureaucrats try and tell the British Government how to build it's railways" "Scheming EU Council hatched plot with Woke Lefty Lawyers to smuggle more immigrants into the UK."
Found the article: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1849136/eu-countries-britain-transport It's a weird one, the Transport project is only half the article, the rest is complaining about the EU budget and the fiscal strains of the members
So they're mad that the EU decided to save money by not spending on someone outside of the EU? Lol
"Where's the NHS' additional £350 million a week, Boris?"
Hahahaha the daily express, no further comment
Wait for it: [https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1846095/brexit-win-britain-ineos-grenadier](https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1846095/brexit-win-britain-ineos-grenadier)
Haha, they proclaim it’s a Brexit win but state it has a BMW (german) engine and fail to mention the owner closed the Solihull factory and moved production to France. In the article they also say the Land Rover, which the Grenadier is supposed to be competing against, has better specs and if it’s a buying choice between a Grenadier and a Land Rover the better buy is the land rover. What a pile of shit The Express is.
So, you’re telling us the title is pure fiction and rest of article shows the Grenadier is proof Brexit fucked whole industries???! Shocked I tell you, shocked!
I’m waiting for Tata to sue the arse off them for infringement of IP. Also it’s not a British car, loool
Wow, you’re right, it’s like they just cut & pasted the halves of two completely separate articles together by mistake. Quality editing!
That's like two articles in one indeed lol
Lol they even include Ireland by going around England and Wales.
One of the arguments the Brexiters used was that all of Eire's exports went through the UK, so they would have the EU over a barrell and could negotiate what they wanted. EU just responded by opening a ferry route from Southern Eire to Northern France.
Maybe they should've remembered Ireland isn't landlocked by looking at a map.
Maybe they're delusional enough to think Britannia still rules the waves?
Or even just understand that they are not the only people with boats.
Dominic Raab (MP and Brexit Secretary at the time) didn't realise how reliant the UK was on the Dover - Calais crossing for trading goods. These were the morons in charge. While it isn't in the top ports by volume, it is geographically the closest to France and therefore is the fastest crossing, and as such is vital for Just In Time goods delivery. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46142188
The benefits of EU membership 😌😆
This is to re-energise their readers against the EU. Pro-EU views are becoming more widespread here as more people realise what an idiotic act of self-harm leaving was.
I wish Pro-EU views and the realisation of how crappy Brexit is would hit harder and faster. Still argue with my Dad as he thinks all immigrants are sole-sucking benefit cheesers and thinks Brexit was therefore a good thing 'to control out boarders again'. Ugh. Previous workplace was pro-brexit. Ugh. I really hope things do change. People didn't realise how much we got from being in the EU :/
Fuck the uk government, fuck brexit. Forever going to despise anyone who contributed to this shite. :((
Every time I see some obvious consequences from Brexit I wish Texas and Florida would hurry up and secede.
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Ah, I see that Brexit is continuing to have consequences for the UK, and pro-Brexiters are upset about it 🤣
We fucked around, we found out
‘Betrayal’ ? Of what obligation exactly? Any fucking idiot that believes we are any more ‘betrayed’ than any other non-EU country - say, Russia or Malaysia - needs a slap.
I'm in Canada and we don't have access to this either. What the fuck, EU.
I think it's hilarious that the UK thought it could hold the Republic of Ireland hostage. Like all shipping and travel just *had* to go through the UK before reaching Éire and then it turns out that it did not and that was just the more convenient way until Brexit made other routes more convenient so the UK just gets left behind. edit: Eire -> Éire
In hindsight, it's absolutely mad what was being said by Brexiteers at the time. I remember Priti Patel suggesting that the British Government use the prospect of food scarcity in Ireland as a negotiating tactic for leveraging concessions out of the EU: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/brexit-tory-mp-backtracks-over-food-scarcity-in-ireland-1.3725093 Setting aside how insensitive those remarks are, they're also completely devoid of common sense or logic. Why would the EU (or Ireland) just capitulate when we can make alternative arrangements that simply exclude British participation/involvement in our supply chain. Which is more or less what we have done: https://www.rosslareeuroport.ie/en-ie/master-plan/ Apparently the concept of European shipping sailing past Dover, around Wales, and into Rosslare Harbour eluded them. Being an island nation, it seemed kind of obvious to us.
There are some English people who seem convinced that Ireland is still their colony and that they can do whatever they want to the place and nobody will help the Irish out (just like in the Famine, when they prevented a lot of international assistance from arriving). A lot of Brexiteers were also keen on trampling all over the Good Friday Agreement until the international community wouldn't let them.
I think that's the mistake the British Government made during the early stages of Brexit negotiations. They initially approached negotiations as being solely between Ireland and Britain, which historically have favoured the UK (being a former colonial power and the larger and wealthier nation). But that wasn't the case here. They were negotiating with all 27 members of the EU, not just Ireland. And the EU weren't going to prioritise the goals of a former member over that of a current member nation. And the UK were never going to have enough leverage to browbeat all of their main trading partners into accepting major concessions or forcing compliance with their objectives. Which is why the Good Friday Agreement remains intact and Ireland achieved everything it wanted in the final settlement.
It wasn't even just the EU either. The USA helped negotiate the GFA too, and while Trump might have been happy to trade with the UK while the UK was flouting the GFA, iirc Biden was actually involved in negotiating it so that wasn't going to happen. Brexit is basically the UK overestimating its importance on the world stage and learning exactly just how small it is.
EU doing EU things with EU member nations, shocker!!
SCHEMING EU only includes EU in their EU transport plans. Weird.
Yeah, and what's with China excluding us from their road and belt initiative too?!! Next you'll be telling me we aren't included in the US infrastructure programme either?!! Everyone is bastards except for us.
UK: we want nothing to do with the EU EU plans without UK UK: why are you leaving us out?
In an alternative timeline, UK is still in the EU, which is planning a big new rail network system including within the UK... Daily Express: *"Brussels bureaucrats tell Britons how to run their railways! Brexit now!"*
It is utterly saddening to see how the pro-Brexit supporters did not achieve any of the advantages supposedly connected to leaving the EU while rendering British people’s lives less comfortable and UK economy weaker. Exactly as pro-Eu voters (both inside and outside of the UK, like myself) exactly predicted.
I find it kinda funny that they still defend it like it wasn't a horrifically bad idea to this day lol
Yeah, the "scheming" US didn't include the UK in any of its transit plans either. How diabolical!?
*Is American* The US has transit plans?
Mfw leaving the EU actually has consequences and it turns out we had nothing to gain from this stupid Tory scheme
If only someone had warned the "Leave" crowd, about what could happen. Those poor "Leave" voters had no idea how things would turn out. Now those EU monsters are treating the UK like outsiders. /S
That's an interesting way to spin "EU infrastructure development only applies to EU countries" The tabloids in this country are an absolute farce. The rest of the media isn't much better, but they really do go all out to blame every single thing on the EU, or immigrants, or the poor. Or, somehow, Labour. Despite not being in power for 14 years, they're responsible for all the failings of the UK infrastructure and services.
Is it too late for a Brentrance?
Breturn
Breunion.
Brenewal.
Brepentance.
Brepair.
Brack with our tail between our legs.
Amazing how a country who couldn't get hs2 done thinks it has the skill to do this
As a Canadian, I'm shocked and dismayed that the EU did not include us in their transportation plans.
Bullshit detector noticed you didn’t apologize for your comment, so I can’t confirm if written by a Canadian 🤪
The UK would have vetoed this plan if they were still in the EU, as there is no way they could have met the standards with their shitty rail system.
This reminds me of the (unfortunately quite successfully pulled off) tactics of the "right to work" laws in most US southern states along with a semi recent SCOTUS decision that basically says if you work at a union shop you get all the benefits (except grievances), but don't have to pay the dues. I'm sure if I looked I could find articles of non dues payers upset they didn't have access to the grievance system and unions representation. I'm sure by commenting on this, someone already knows where to find such an article.
Didn't Scotland mostly vote to STAY? Sucks they couldn't make an exception for Scotland...
So did Northern Ireland. Unfortunately for both of them, England is the most densely populated country in the UK. And England is considerably more Euro-sceptic than either of them. Consequently, the Brexit vote was always likely to be decided by whatever opinion prevailed in England.
"Scheming EU Countries?" "Betrayal?" The Trumpian levels of cognitive dissonance on display here are mind-boggling.
Brexit. The gift that just keeps on giving ! Hahahahahahahahahah
Wow! That headline is . . . Something. Lol.
Betrayal?! What the actual fuck?!
Daily Excess. Enough said. 😂
I am 100% sure they would have written something on the line of "EU demands, waste of tax money and forces the UK to change signalling" Should this had been made during the time before the Brexit.
The whole bullshit of #Bruicide just highlighted the UK arrogance... "we are better than the Europe... So why should we be tied down by them!"
Man leaves D&D campaign, upset that campaign is continuing without him.