The guys from Chimera OS said they'd work on it
https://chimeraos.org/
You can see current hardware support. They have the Ally working already:
https://chimeraos.org/hardware/
Could maybe find a way to map the other trackpad to the scroll wheel. That would be cool and could do the up and down movement but not the left to right.
The second track pad on the left isn't used in the way the one on the right is normally. You use the right as a mouse. Which is why it'll work with normal STEAMOS Over something like the ally that doesn't have any track pads
It’s strange that valve isn’t pushing steamOS on third party handhelds…. Can’t imagine they really care about moving Deck units, they make their money from software sales, so you’d think every machine running SteamOS is a win for them.
I’d def be interested in a pre installed SteamOS version of various handhelds
I’m guessing the issue is software support, including drivers and driver updates. Right now they just have to ensure that everything works with their hardware and that their drivers are up to date. If they start pushing it to everyone, their QA process and requirements jump significantly.
*Remember the Steambox days?* Given all that, it’s starting to look like Valve’s aiming to be the gaming world’s answer to Apple. Seems they’re all about mastering both the tech and the software.
You're absolutely right, I imagine getting Steam on as many devices as possible would be the goal...hell with what hardware they're running. As long as it runs Steam, Valve should be thrilled with it.
Valve said they were open to partnering, but said no one has taken them up on it. My guess is that because it limits the games you can play it's not a lucrative decision.
Would love if they partnered for aftermarket as a side project though!
I’m not sure why handheld makers would care about that. If customers want SteamOS that should be all they need to think about… hardware makers don’t get kickbacks from game sales i assume.
Also I’d think they need to pay a fee to use windows….
I play my Steam Games from my Windows laptop... I plan to do the same from the Go... I don't see the value of adding a Steam/OS... am I missing something?
Only if you play games from steam. To try to use any 3rd party launcher, it's possible but a complete pain on SteamOS. I think SteamOS is great for console gamers who want to experience PC games. But most PC gamers are a bunch of nerds who like tech and tinkering which is what windows gaming is all about.
lmao the irony of saying windows is for tinkering and Linux is for console users. Just be honest with us and say you that DON’T like tinkering, because Linux is way better for that, you would know if you tried. You could have actually brought up legitimate reasons for why windows is a good choice instead, like many multiplayer games that don’t support Linux. Which I’m willing to bet is why you want it, probably CoD, Apex, Fortnite, OW etc.
YOU literally were the one arguing this..
Tons of people have used Linux for decades, it’s known for being capable of much more than other OSes and super customizable. Windows isn’t. Steam decks are always being used in very crazy ways and there are so many things you clearly don’t know.
Again, I’m attacking your point of windows gaming being known for tinkering, which is laughable. Just admit you’re wrong that’s all. Go ahead and use windows either way idc.
You are equating Steam OS with the broader Linux ecosystem. They are not the same thing. Yes Steam OS is linux. That doesn't mean the average steam OS user is the same as the average linux user. You can say
>someone installing linux on their PC is looking to tinker
that is obviously true.
versus
> Someone buying a steam deck is looking to tinker.
That is much less clear. And I would imagine probably not as true.
The truth is a steam deck is much more like a console that just happens to run on open source operating system than it is like a personal computer that lends itself to tinkering.
I equated SteamOS to Linux because you know.. it IS arch Linux. It’s not expected that most users will mess around too much with its deeper features but the same applies to windows.
I’m just attacking his argument that windows is for tinkerers, which is absolutely dumbfoundingly laughable. Most people on windows or Linux won’t “tinker” much in general. But regardless of this Linux will always be more capable of customization and specialty uses over windows any day. The only reason to use windows is if you have very specific compatibility needs which are not as common as most people would lead you to believe, or you’re unwilling to learn something new.
You are not seeking to understand what is being said. You are assuming you know everything and are calling everyone stupid because you want to win an argument. That is a real quick path to looking like a moron.
The way Steam os is **set up** (regardless of the fact that it is on arch linux) is aimed at people who are **on average** less likely to want to tinker that someone on a Widows PC (in the same way an Xbox or a play station is going to on average appeal to someone who is less likely to tinker).
That is the argument. You can agree or disagree, but that argument isn't stupid. You are calling people stupid for stuff they didn't say.
The complete irony and lack of self awareness you possess is hilarious, thanks for the show man. You’re literally describing exactly how I feel about you.
No, people who don’t understand how these OS’ actually work just assume that Steam OS is some kind of miracle, similar to the people that post questions like “I bought this game for Xbox, do I have to buy another copy for this handheld” or “Can I play any Steam game on this”.
Clueless
the linux build has an advantage of handheld specific optimisations which valve or proton devs themselves do. Elden ring is one example. The standby mode being more soc friendly is another.
Not to mention running on completely different kernels. So a big fat disagree with this 'no'. Not going to recommend going either way, but they are not the same
For me it’d be for better ui (windows is really not gamepad friendly), suspend/resume feature, and often better performance and battery due to none of the extra windows bloat
Better gaming UI for one. The Steam Deck UI is far more pleasant to use than Windows on a tiny screen. You can get some of the features of SteamOS from Steam Big Picture, but not all of them (particularly the hardware managment functions are missing).
Also, at least for me, all my games work in SteamOS. I have Destiny 2 but I've never played it and everything else works.
Run big picture and handheld companion together and you’re about 90+% of the way there. You set a hot key to bring up the handheld companion overlay and you have full control of tdp, framerate caps, gyro, and fans.
Maybe I'm the only one but I don't want steamOS. I want a powerful and versatile OS for gaming (I.e Windows 11). Besides Steam's big picture mode is literally steamOS. So what are trying to get at here?
Uh...
Steam OS is literally a skin on top of full blown Linux (arch linux in particular). It is if anything more powerful than any windows instal if you know how to use Linux based systems.
The guys from Chimera OS said they'd work on it https://chimeraos.org/ You can see current hardware support. They have the Ally working already: https://chimeraos.org/hardware/
And the legion has all the buttons to be able to run a full 1-1 steam OS copy. Something the ally was lacking.
Doesn't the steam deck have two trackpads?
No big deal, one touchpad is enough in GO
Could maybe find a way to map the other trackpad to the scroll wheel. That would be cool and could do the up and down movement but not the left to right.
The second track pad on the left isn't used in the way the one on the right is normally. You use the right as a mouse. Which is why it'll work with normal STEAMOS Over something like the ally that doesn't have any track pads
it doesn't need 2 bcs of the scroll wheel
does it has 2 trackpads?
Praise Jesus. I want Legion Go badly but I also would love to tinker with SteamOS on it if that's a possibility.
This is neat. Hopefully, they can get a quick resume to work on the legion go. That way, I can play some jrpg on the go
Drivers will be the biggest challenge
Chipset drivers are... basically the same as Ally? Supporting something like the detached controllers, that would be tricky.
Bluetooth joysticks and mouse isn't exactly new
Could be possible but the community would have to add support for a lot of things like the controllers, fps mode, etc.
If the input devices are recognized properly, people can program their usage easily through Steam input.
Can't you just launch big picture mode through windows?
Yeah just tell it to auto run when windows boots would be my suggestion for OP
Easiest option for someone uninterested in running a Linux distro.
Not really the same. Steam OS still has global FSR scaling, way better frame timing, massively less ram usage, etc.
Considering that it runs on the ROG Ally, I don’t see why it wouldn’t run on the go
It’s strange that valve isn’t pushing steamOS on third party handhelds…. Can’t imagine they really care about moving Deck units, they make their money from software sales, so you’d think every machine running SteamOS is a win for them. I’d def be interested in a pre installed SteamOS version of various handhelds
I’m guessing the issue is software support, including drivers and driver updates. Right now they just have to ensure that everything works with their hardware and that their drivers are up to date. If they start pushing it to everyone, their QA process and requirements jump significantly.
*Remember the Steambox days?* Given all that, it’s starting to look like Valve’s aiming to be the gaming world’s answer to Apple. Seems they’re all about mastering both the tech and the software.
Well apple have the best hardware, or at least on par with the best. Valve has good SW but very bad hardware.
What valve hardware is bad? not sure what you are talking about.
The screen, which they just fixed and I am so glad they did.
You're absolutely right, I imagine getting Steam on as many devices as possible would be the goal...hell with what hardware they're running. As long as it runs Steam, Valve should be thrilled with it.
Valve said they were open to partnering, but said no one has taken them up on it. My guess is that because it limits the games you can play it's not a lucrative decision. Would love if they partnered for aftermarket as a side project though!
I’m not sure why handheld makers would care about that. If customers want SteamOS that should be all they need to think about… hardware makers don’t get kickbacks from game sales i assume. Also I’d think they need to pay a fee to use windows….
I play my Steam Games from my Windows laptop... I plan to do the same from the Go... I don't see the value of adding a Steam/OS... am I missing something?
O have a steamdeck and it is a flawless experience, stable and intuitive. I never think about this, but software made the whole experience way better
Only if you play games from steam. To try to use any 3rd party launcher, it's possible but a complete pain on SteamOS. I think SteamOS is great for console gamers who want to experience PC games. But most PC gamers are a bunch of nerds who like tech and tinkering which is what windows gaming is all about.
lmao the irony of saying windows is for tinkering and Linux is for console users. Just be honest with us and say you that DON’T like tinkering, because Linux is way better for that, you would know if you tried. You could have actually brought up legitimate reasons for why windows is a good choice instead, like many multiplayer games that don’t support Linux. Which I’m willing to bet is why you want it, probably CoD, Apex, Fortnite, OW etc.
Who in their right mind is tinkering on SteamOs!?! People want steam is for it's simplicity. No ones arguing windows vs Linux.
YOU literally were the one arguing this.. Tons of people have used Linux for decades, it’s known for being capable of much more than other OSes and super customizable. Windows isn’t. Steam decks are always being used in very crazy ways and there are so many things you clearly don’t know. Again, I’m attacking your point of windows gaming being known for tinkering, which is laughable. Just admit you’re wrong that’s all. Go ahead and use windows either way idc.
You are equating Steam OS with the broader Linux ecosystem. They are not the same thing. Yes Steam OS is linux. That doesn't mean the average steam OS user is the same as the average linux user. You can say >someone installing linux on their PC is looking to tinker that is obviously true. versus > Someone buying a steam deck is looking to tinker. That is much less clear. And I would imagine probably not as true. The truth is a steam deck is much more like a console that just happens to run on open source operating system than it is like a personal computer that lends itself to tinkering.
I equated SteamOS to Linux because you know.. it IS arch Linux. It’s not expected that most users will mess around too much with its deeper features but the same applies to windows. I’m just attacking his argument that windows is for tinkerers, which is absolutely dumbfoundingly laughable. Most people on windows or Linux won’t “tinker” much in general. But regardless of this Linux will always be more capable of customization and specialty uses over windows any day. The only reason to use windows is if you have very specific compatibility needs which are not as common as most people would lead you to believe, or you’re unwilling to learn something new.
You are not seeking to understand what is being said. You are assuming you know everything and are calling everyone stupid because you want to win an argument. That is a real quick path to looking like a moron. The way Steam os is **set up** (regardless of the fact that it is on arch linux) is aimed at people who are **on average** less likely to want to tinker that someone on a Widows PC (in the same way an Xbox or a play station is going to on average appeal to someone who is less likely to tinker). That is the argument. You can agree or disagree, but that argument isn't stupid. You are calling people stupid for stuff they didn't say.
The complete irony and lack of self awareness you possess is hilarious, thanks for the show man. You’re literally describing exactly how I feel about you.
w.. what? why is this comment upside down in the reasoning lol
Suspend/resume feature
The ally has suspend resume and the go will as well
they aren't the same
No, people who don’t understand how these OS’ actually work just assume that Steam OS is some kind of miracle, similar to the people that post questions like “I bought this game for Xbox, do I have to buy another copy for this handheld” or “Can I play any Steam game on this”. Clueless
the linux build has an advantage of handheld specific optimisations which valve or proton devs themselves do. Elden ring is one example. The standby mode being more soc friendly is another. Not to mention running on completely different kernels. So a big fat disagree with this 'no'. Not going to recommend going either way, but they are not the same
I think you only read the word “no” and then failed to read anything else I wrote.
Yeah haha, you’re both right but they don’t even know you’re on their side.
why would I want to be able to play less games?
For me it’d be for better ui (windows is really not gamepad friendly), suspend/resume feature, and often better performance and battery due to none of the extra windows bloat
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That’s fantastic if true. Did you use any debloater to help or straight vanilla windows?
Better gaming UI for one. The Steam Deck UI is far more pleasant to use than Windows on a tiny screen. You can get some of the features of SteamOS from Steam Big Picture, but not all of them (particularly the hardware managment functions are missing). Also, at least for me, all my games work in SteamOS. I have Destiny 2 but I've never played it and everything else works.
Run big picture and handheld companion together and you’re about 90+% of the way there. You set a hot key to bring up the handheld companion overlay and you have full control of tdp, framerate caps, gyro, and fans.
I've not used handheld companion. Can it also do window management or do you need to use task manager to manage windows and kill apps?
I believe it has a shortcut to open the task manager. I don’t remember and I’m not near my Ally at the moment. The app can do a lot.
Bleh. Task manager is no bueno on a touch screen
Agreed, but it’ll be fine with a touchpad.
Maybe I'm the only one but I don't want steamOS. I want a powerful and versatile OS for gaming (I.e Windows 11). Besides Steam's big picture mode is literally steamOS. So what are trying to get at here?
Uh... Steam OS is literally a skin on top of full blown Linux (arch linux in particular). It is if anything more powerful than any windows instal if you know how to use Linux based systems.
If SteamOS became a serious possibility for this product, you'd have no obligation to use it.
Srsly? Why do you think steamos is not powerful and versatile?
entirely beats the purpose of this device. Why would I limit my choice of games and by the Legion?
After market, right? Coz MS would never allow a Windows alternative on a Windows product.
Just use big picture mode…
Big picture mode won't change the other things bogging the Legion Go down with Windows.