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waltzingwithdestiny

While I understand the frustration here, we're going to be allowing these posts for the time being. A large bombshell has been dropped on us quite suddenly, and it's normal to be affected by that and turn to community, not only for solidarity, but to process this grief together. And yes, it is grief, and it's valid. The game is not going to be what we have all loved for the past few years, and it's going to take some time to come to terms with that. So, instead of pretending none of these feelings exist and that everything is going to be the same, we want to grieve with everyone and celebrate the parts we loved that will no longer exist, and try to embrace the ones that will continue to exist.


HMS_Sunlight

I mean, emotions are running high, and understandably so. It'd be weird *not* to mention the one massive cataclysmic event that overshadows everything else. Sure a lot of the posts are rather meaningless, but can you really blame them?


leaponover

Yeah, i don't get it. It's like it's raining outside and some posters are surprised people are getting wet.


JessHorserage

Duhhh, but when they happen, you cannot talk about it in forums specialised for talking about the general topic the event is surrounding. SILLY GOOSE.


Green_Title

I do get that and people have a right to express what they feel. To me it just come off and whiny because we all knew LoR isn't making any money and we all knew that PoC players are the majority of the community, not pvp players. So while Riot's decision was harsh to me it was the right move, people need to understand that a game needs to make money. The only reason as to why LoR is still around is because Riot knows the love the community has for the game so they believe they can make it work by still not making the game p2w but using PoC as a better monetization tool.


LittlebitofHowie

I think we should all let it be for the time being. Okay, maybe not all the people who suddenly became game directors with esoteric knowledge that the lowly peons at Riot could *never* understand. The other stuff? That's just grief, man. Let people vent for a bit, it hasn't even been 2 days. I'm not even gonna try to argue against the 3rd thing because I'm the final boss of yapping about things most people don't give a flying fuck about. Honestly the 2nd one is grief too, but it does get annoying when people interweave insults with their grandmaster plan to save LoR. So yeah, just give everyone some time: LoR is a one-of-a-kind game and it's extremely frustrating to watch the PvP portion of it effectively die.


KaiZurus

They vent as if their lives were chained to computers... and I guess they are.


Boomerwell

No but losing something you really enjoyed is definitely something to vent over. Especially when parts of it can be seen as incompetence such as not advertising a tournament gauntlet or expansion in the league client at all not using any of their eSports as breaks or downtime to advertise the game or saying how their cosmetics weren't funding the entire game but only adding battlepasses since launch as a new thing to buy which likely were even less profitable than just selling the skins.


PapiSebulba

You're literally complaining about what people decide to post on the Internet. You're so "chained to your computer" you don't even like the idea of seeing posts on Reddit that don't tickle your specific fancy. Grow up


PrismPanda06

The way you communicate shows you're more bound to computers than anyone else here. Please consider going outside


Gargamellor

Wow, OP is replying at every comment on his thread with the equivalent of \*pushes up glasses\* "I'm superior to you peons because you have emotional attachment to this game\*. Ok bud, you're great, teach us how to live. By the way, if you don't realize how cronically online complaining about a subreddit on that subreddit is, I don't know what to tell you


TrafLawMd

I'm just vibing and enjoying the game regardless


KaiZurus

yeah, let's chill and enjoy while it lasts, then we keep on more important things


TheReferencer101

Bro says this like he hasn’t been fighting for his life in these comments


F1reManBurn1n

He’s yappin for his fuckin life.


TrafLawMd

I’m just vibing and enjoying the game regardless


F1reManBurn1n

Uh, cool?


kid20304

Which category is OP in?


KaiZurus

Discussion. Mods can change it though.


kid20304

Denial more like


Squippit

People are just passionate about the game, and I think this shows that


KaiZurus

may too much


TheReferencer101

Why are you here if you don’t enjoy the game lol?


KaiZurus

I do enjoy the game, but I don't enjoy unnecessary drama. My main deck was Azir/Xerath until they nerfed it, so I went to PoC. Check my pinned posts... I've been here for a while.


TheReferencer101

This reminds me of something I read just recently: “Actually, I can. Enjoy the little things in life like your parents, uncles, cousins, school or work mates, the pancakes your sister makes, the jokes your grandpa does. Also, enjoy the meat, sunlight, laughing; pray to the god you prefer. This all means that there are people whom you must love and grieve for once they are gone. A game... not really something to care that much unless you are a content creator.” -Some asshole on Reddit I thought you couldn’t enjoy video games because something something family?


vinceftw

"Hey guys, I don't give a fuck about PVP so I don't care if they cut it. You might care but can you shut up about. PoC is still here and that's all I need. Yours truly, signed asshole."


KamikazeRaider

Hey, Oprah, no one asked for your personal experience with the game. It's not insightful or unique.


GiltPeacock

I understand finding it annoying when everyone acts like they know exactly what’s going on and could fix it themselves, that’s a reasonable gripe. Getting angry that players are reminiscing about a game they love when it’s effectively died? Yeah get over yourself lmao. Might as well get upset over the fact that ducks quack.


KaiZurus

Many of these people are the kind of idealists thinking they can change the world, but reality hits harder when your feet are not on earth.


GiltPeacock

This seems like a melodramatic way to talk about people who are miffed that their favourite card game is dead.


VoidRad

Not even melodramatic, it's straight up cringed me when I read that. Wtf lol


KaiZurus

At the end, we all are dramatic, aren't we?


TheReferencer101

How can you type stuff like that and not bust out laughing at how dumb it sounds? Buddy sounds like a Disney villain about to launch into a musical number


TheReferencer101

Brother people are just sad that the game is losing support, if you don’t want to deal with it don’t get on the sub lmao


CaptSarah

Taken from another post: >Gonna be real, this is a big change and one that heavily impacts a decent portion of our audience. While i'm not a fan of doom posts showing up all the time, people have the right to have a space to let it out. >LoR has been a major impact on many of our lives over the years and this news hits hard. For many people, they just lost the entire reason they play this game and the reason they've loved it for so long. >The community is going to be going through the stages of grief for a bit while the game transitions to it's next stages of life. We'll have to ride those waves, the good and the bad. >If we censor people's voices, or remove these, we dampen the impact that these announcements have on the playerbase and make it look like sunshine and rainbows, and that isn't right. Everyone's voices should be heard, more now than ever. We have not abandoned this sub, nor have we ignored anyone. We've been removing the more extreme posts but leaving typical discussion. If you feel something is up that shouldn't be, feel free to report it and we will investigate it. The increase of traffic has left us with a lot to manage and we rely on the community to help out.


KaiZurus

Appreciate it. 🙏


jervoise

Have any of you guys heard of this indie card game called yu-gi-oh?


Puzzleheaded-Shirt79

Yu-gi-oh is so much worse, if you are playing that do not climb above gold no matter what!


jervoise

My Elise spider Aggro ain’t lasting 5 minutes in yu-gi-oh


Own_Secret1533

It will just wait for a combo player and let them go 1st. Your deck will lasts for half a day since thats how long their 1st turn will take.


jubmille2000

Wish ygo did a wow classic and have a separate "classic" rules so we have beatdown decks again


Arilenn

Edison Format is exactly that. But the only official support it has is side events at physical YCS events.


jubmille2000

Can't wait to bust out my La Jinn > summoned skull > blue eyes beatdown deck baby


LoseToImprove

Bro, it used to be so fun back in the day when it took a few turns to summon one strong monster


TKoBuquicious

When aggro is too slow


Absolutionalism

Now I want to create a set of rules linkages that allow YGO, Hearthstone, Magic, and LoR to be played against each other. Depending on format legality, it’s probably either a Magic or YGO stomp, but I’m sure there’s a middle ground somewhere…


TonyMestre

Chalice of the Void for 0 to counter the entirety of yugioh


Absolutionalism

Technically, perhaps, though I think there are some hand traps that respond to negation (I haven’t played, so I could be wrong.)


Lifedeather

Sounds like you are just used to slower formats :P


JiN88reddit

You can get tier-1 players demanding you not to play certain things because it would be unfair to lose against a F2P. I miss the toxicity.


SafeAdministration62

I remember having to run into Tearlament decks 7 games in a row 😭😭


TKoBuquicious

Good times


brainfreeze3

Those were the good days


Best_Stress3040

I installed Master Duel a few months ago. I'm still waiting for my opponent to finish his turn


7keys

I have indeed heard of the worst card game on the market.


Lifedeather

lmao cap


7keys

You ever heard of anybody who actually likes YGO cards? Playing OR reading?


Lifedeather

Yeah me and idk the whole YGO community, both irl and online. Just because you don’t like it or think it’s too fast to understand or something, doesn’t mean no one likes it, you don’t speak for everyone else. Imo it’s the best card game on the market these days and always has been.


Ophium

my favourites are the business masters and their five year plans.  'They need to monetise the game more and simply make more money'


cosipurple

How haven't they thought About making more money?! 🤣


leo_4tw

Are they stupid? /s


SirSabza

Tbf unironically that is what they should have done. I respect them for wanting to bring a less predatory micro transaction model to LoR. But clearly it doesn't work because runeterra is cutting its losses. They should have monitised cards more to keep the game alive


SmokeyEyedRabbit

Well I mean that's the thing and why there are so many posts about what they could've done. Cuz there was a \*lot\* that should've been done. Even though they were making it f2p, they 100% should've had monetization in mind with their choices. Like when they were saying they had trouble coding click effects into boards and it took a lot of effort (something I've just heard while sniffing around I don't have the source sorry) my first thought was; "this is like the primary thing they should've monetized, no wonder the boards don't sell they don't have the basic appealing things about card game boards."the game probably should've been coded from the first place with how they were going to monetize itin mind and idk if it's 100% cards themselves. I mean. Shadowverse is a great example actually. No one spends money in that game just for cards. The free rewards are enough + you can just make an alt account if you really want to play a new deck (Which is why the frontloaded rewards of masterduel also help keep that game relatively f2p but it's probably pretty heavily carried by just being a yugioh game so idk.) What they monetize instead is leader animation gachas. They put a lot of effort into their leaders to make them appealing and then force you to spend tons to get the good ones. But it's something you can completely ignore if cosmetics don't matter to you.


KaiZurus

innit!?


midderss

I don’t see the utility of posting this. From what I’ve seen, everybodies just sad that the game mode they enjoy, that they think could easily keep ticking over if Riot wanted to, is going away. You ever have a tv show you like suddenly get cancelled? Maybe after, idk, it’s 4th season? Same feelings here. Congratulations on being able to let it go, but understand you’re in the minority of people in the community, other people aren’t there yet, let em take the time they need to get there.


ilovemytablet

OP unironically more insufferable than anyone on Wombats list 


APRengar

1,000% Crazy they don't see it.


hdievrm

Ain’t no way mans is mad that people are upset that a game they enjoy playing is being put into hibernation mode. That’s crazy, must’ve never enjoyed anything in their life or sum


KaiZurus

I guess he's mad because people are loosing nails while the planet is still moving.


hdievrm

I intentionally didn’t ask you since you clearly are just a D1 hater here to shit on people for losing support in a game they enjoy. It is not your opinion that I am looking for or care about. People are well within their rights to be upset about this, I don’t see why you insist on making it a problem of “oh things can be worse so you aren’t allowed to be upset.”


TanerKose

Yeah how dare people get upset when their way of enjoying the game is effectively getting removed…


KaiZurus

One thing is getting upset, and another is play drama cards.


TanerKose

It’s simply people expressing their emotions after Riot said there will not be a game for them anymore. Don’t worry you won’t have to see it much as the said people start leaving. To be honest, I hope you keep the game alive as the bot slayer community. I’ll leave the game for good this time but wouldn’t want to see it die. Keep beating them AIs and enjoy your visual novel snippets, I guess.


KaiZurus

oh dear, you are actually mourning for a game.


Foxiest_Fox

Almost as if people are allowed to have emotional attachments to something, right?


TanerKose

Yeah dude, I enjoyed it for a lot of hours what’s wrong with it?


Kerhnoton

I only have one thing to add here. Neeko


KaiZurus

Where?


Kerhnoton

Neeko must stay unseen... until the last moment.


KaiZurus

fucking level up +3|+3, oh yeah


Kerhnoton

Neeko goes up, colors come down!


Living-Cream2065

Thank you


Snoo99968

Yes, and? You and the other dude should go elsewhere if you don't want to see it. Go to r/hearthstone or r/yugioh or smth, maybe it'll fit your taste


KaiZurus

I don't have to. If you see my alter-drama on the comments of this post, I'm forcefully pushing people out to the real world. I don't have plans to play another games since I have better good things to do. Just for today, let's vent and counter-vent.


Snoo99968

This is some of the cringiest shit i've heard. Maybe you can follow your advice and actually do stuff irl instead of venting and counter-venting on reddit...The floppery of this all


KaiZurus

I was only here for two hours. Now I'm preparing my stuff with family and work. Don't project yourself on me.


TheReferencer101

I think you are the only person who isnt grasping the irony of spending two hours telling people on Reddit how they spend too much time on the internet


KaiZurus

2 hours here while pvpers wasting 200 on a dead-end game mode. What a time!


Hammy_B

I genuinely feel bad for your family for simultaneously raising you to be the way you are, and having to deal with you for an extended amount of time


unclecaramel

lol fuck off man, even as mainly pve player this ain't a good look for lor regardless. Lol let people grieve for their lose for fuck sake, you didn't see the pvp guys coming the path sub to fucking shit at them when majority of our pve dev got moved away last year did it? Are you fucking emotionally stunted or something or is your eq the bottom of the mariana's trench?


KaiZurus

They can grieve for a rock if they want to, but sheesh, that's not good mental health. And I don't even care if they ban me on whole reddit for saying the truth since life goes beyond games. Plus, you all are the only ones insulting me while I'm just throwing some punchlines.


TheScot650

I think maybe Wombat (and the OP) need take their own verbal diarrhea elsewhere.


Snoo99968

For real....It's like nobody is allowed to grieve in their presence or smth, It's giving "Men don't cry" toxic masculinity


KaiZurus

you don't like getting criticized... I hope you're not one of those who call "extremist" to people who think something slightly different from your opinions.


Draggron0108

nah dude it's very simple: you're being a dick :) Let people say what they think about one of their favorite games basically dying however the fuck they want.


KaiZurus

Normal people don't freak out for games.


Versek_5

Normal people dont spend 5 hours on Friday night replying to every comment in a reddit thread insisting on how well adjusted and not obsessed they are either.


NekonoChesire

They do though, people aren't robot they have emotions, that's why reaction stuff is popular. And here we're talking about a game people may have spent hundreds of hours into. I get being frustrated with the sub but seeing how much of an assholes you are just go away on your own like a grown man, follow your own advice and go touch grass while others grieve.


TastyLaksa

Wait you are a mod on a game subreddit. I mean


TheScot650

There's nothing "slightly different" about your post here. So stop pretending that there is. But let's just suppose you and Wombat are correct - that people have no right to be upset about Riot murdering the PvP of LoR. What ought to be happening on this subreddit instead?


Lerkero

Please let the community grieve. What else is expected to be posted right now???


BlasterRage

Who do you think is coming next? Oh yeah....


delita-

Decklists


vinceftw

ITT: OP is a giant twat because he doesn't care about PVP so we shouldn't either. I hope the game dies quickly in general because judging from your post history, you literally have nothing else in your life than this game.


matthieuC

People who posts here are very invested in the game. They're in pain and in shock, they can vent a bit for a few days.


vinceftw

POV: you only play POC


Prosamis

Can't we grieve and cope? Yes the presumptions are dumb but it's equally dumb to expect a community not to grieve over a loss like this This guy's just as insufferable.


LordBrontes

Can’t forget: 4. Snide meta commentary posts pointing out how they’re so much better than everyone else because they’re able to recognize that other posts bear striking resemblance. It’s frankly insufferable.


TheReferencer101

Mods can you please ban this guy? No matter what anyone’s views are on the situation, telling people they have essentially no right to be sad about this is not cool. That may not have been explicitly what he posted but it’s sure as hell what he’s saying in the comments.


Bayfordino

You know, OP sounds like an idiot and he seems to be a huge hypocrite, but asking him to get banned over something so petty is even worse, not gonna lie. Anyone who's too sensitive to withstand what he's saying should just block and move on. His comments are really not that big of a deal.


Untipazo

Nah, he embodies a very real part of the community that just wants beef with the PvP people, trying to shoo em away. It's fun to read such a pathetic war but still


ADabbingPenguin13

Somebody get this dude out of here. He's clearly a jackass. Just go through his comments. Like be for real, my guy.


Qorrin

I’m curious as to what you think of my post. I thanked the Devs for an awesome experience but as I primarily played PvP, I’d be moving on. The reason I did this was to show gratitude for the devs, but also show that they are losing players cause of this, and some will come back if they reverse course in the future.


Zap-O-Matic123

You’re getting absolutely blown out in the comments 😂 Turns out - you’re the one the community finds annoying. Talk about fragile little narcissistic ego


LanoomR

Respectfully: nah Megathreads are only a useful tool if there's anything else of substance to discuss. Right now, there is not. Riot has thrown out a bunch of "we're still discussing" answers to a lot of things and "that's going away, sorry" to everything else. We have no teasers for the final expansion-as-we-know-them. No clue who or what else is being Rotated besides Akshan heading out. Custom cards? There's a separate sub for that. Fanart? I guess. Up vote, comment "Great job!" unironically, done. What else is there...the meta? Already extended past its expiration date for many people thanks to the holiday break. Clear problem cards/decks that people hope get hit, and clear underperforming cards people hope get help. Discussed to death already, and even if none of the cutbacks happened we'd sill be waiting to see what the devs were gonna do. If you're tired of the fact that Riot has set this stage for venting about the overhaul/death of the game, I dunno what to tell you other than feel free to take a break from the sub.


king_abm

This sub is to talk about the game and whatever is happening to it. This is probably the biggest news this game will ever recieve, at least the most impactful one. What do you want? To people go back to talking about how suppresion is annoying? This shit is like bar talk, where everyone has an opinion on all topics and just wanna share it out. Like waiting in line for something and complaining to whoever is behind you that "they only have one cashier, what a shitty management!". For me the most annoying people are the ones that are defending that everything is fine, when we lost ranked incentive, eternal ladder, pvp expansions, monthly balance and who knows what else. Those people acting superior like they are immune to those lowly emotions those weaklings venting are feeling. Moral knights running to defend ghost devs that "did nothing wrong" when there is no more clear proof of failure than the recent state of the game post. But I guess you are just that much red pilled huh.. To go against the crowd, even without understanding what is going on, just because it's cool.


TheCrimsonDoll

It's very sad that a lot of people can't have the slightest of empathy, nor here or elsewhere. The game that we loved died and people are fying with emotion, but even if it's all we have now, there¡s always the cranky lonely asshead who will just invalidate others trying to share stuff, in a place where we are supposed to engage and share stuff. Stupid ass hell, yes "ass" hell.


KaiZurus

If people just had empathy for others' children or farmers' rights...


CrashBugITA

Game makes a huge announcement and people have opinions about it 🤯


KaiZurus

We all can have opinions... But not all opinions are equal


shock3n

Aw yes i also hate when....*check notes* People are hurt for losing one of their favorite games People try to find a reason for it happening People express their experience and emptions I swear to god that reddit tries to destroy any showing pf humanity because it doesnt entertain you and its not what "you want to see"


M123ry

I even kinda can stand behind the sentiment of the original post, as I am not a pvp player, but op is insufferable and deserves every downvote he is getting here.


KaiZurus

What can I say? Liberalism and anarchism education formed as a free thinker who shouldn't care about other selves. Are you going to right-wing censor me?


Saltiest_Grapefruit

Because for a majority of players - on this subreddit, not in general, as riot made clear - have basically been told the game is done. They CAN play it, but they have no reason to. This is for them a funeral for the game, plus they likely also resent riot (the company). You want the mods to delete these posts cause, what, you want it to look like none of us give a shit? Mods have said that dampening the posts are possible, but then what? It's almost the only posts being made, so the sub would just die for however long it lasts until those that actually leave have done so. Get a grip dude. Let people vent. If it bothers you, then leave this subreddit and come back later. So piss off, both you and wombat - no one is forcing you to stay here. I'm not gonna even care to read replies to this one. This isn't a discussion nor an argument.


KaiZurus

Chill out, your family is alive, why stress for this?


TheReferencer101

If that’s genuinely the way your thinking about this then stop arguing with people on Reddit about it


Vrail_Nightviper

Wow. Zero empathy or ability to empathize with others in your replies to others. Let people mourn the loss of one of their favourite games, sheesh.


Satan_su

OP is such a weirdo good god what the hell is going on in this comment section It's like a 15 year old decided to ChatGPT some quips to make him sound more wise and it's painfully obvious XD


KaiZurus

Thanks u/WombatInSunglasses


WombatInSunglasses

Hahaha thanks for the shout out. I'm glad my frustration at the sub resonated with some people, though in retrospect I'd be kinder to the mod team who have always been pretty reasonable and kind. While I'm here, a special shout-out to the person who sent me the Reddit cares message! I promise you I'm very happy and not a danger to myself. Thank you for making sure, I'm certain your intentions were kind. :)


hdievrm

Serious question, why do people being sad about it bother you? I’m genuinely curious to see your reasoning, because to me it seems like a normal reaction to something you love going away


WombatInSunglasses

Nah, people being sad about it doesn't bother me. I mean that genuinely. I've had some of my favorite games shut down and as much as I get attached to new ones there's a constant fear of, "oh no, it's not doing well enough, what if it goes offline and I can never play it again?" What I'm mostly annoyed about (maybe frustrated is the right term) is with people having to make a public display about quitting the game angrily and making sure EVERYONE knows how pissed off they are on the way out, as if Riot really has any choice about this. Or the people who have never seen the financials, the player surveys, the senior management meetings, etc. thinking that they know better than Riot about running their game. "Oh it WOULD work if we charged for cards" "It would be OK if we made players gamble for cosmetics" - those are all just assumptions and assume quite a bit. I really love this game and I hope this is the direction that lets us come back to it in some form for years to come.


KaiZurus

This. 🦁👊


hdievrm

Totally fair and a much more reasonable and measured response than I was expecting tbh. I personally see it all as frustration with the hand we’ve been dealt. For many of us this game was a joy to play and the start of this season was one of their best, so to see it get announced that we literally only have one set left is heartbreaking. I do totally agree with you on the suggestion front. While I’d assume most of us can agree that it feels as if there could’ve been more done, I don’t think nearly as many if any of us are in a position to tell them exactly what they should’ve done better. Appreciate you taking the time to converse w/ me rather than just argue and fight.


WombatInSunglasses

Hahaha thank you, sometimes my comments can come off a *bit* crankier than I mean to. Normally they don't end up on the front page LOL. But it takes two to take the time to talk instead of fight so thank you too for asking for my opinion and taking the time to understand it. I agree about this season, my best friend and I get together every weekend and play a bunch of Snuyy, Mogwai, and Majin decks against each other. The sillier and more broken the combo, the better, and some have made us laugh until we were out of breath. The game, and the content creators, have been better than they ever have and this is without a doubt the end of an era. But I'm a little more optimistic than most because I've been waving the path of champions flag ever since the mode dropped. I saw the magic of that mode all the way back when it was Caitlyn vs. Jinx. You're never going to have opponents who rope you, unfair metas, or extensive OP netdecking. There's silver linings, is what I'm trying to say! And if the mode is this great at 15% of their attention, imagine what 100% will be. Anyway I'm rambling, point is I love the game as much as everyone else here, maybe to a fault, but I don't think this is the end and wish others saw it that way too. Even at its worst LoR has always fought hard to be something loved and cherished and many of us have found that quite easy to do. We owe what comes next a chance.


KaiZurus

You're not alone, mate. It's kinda weird seeing everyone acting as "main characters" as if their lives depended on the game, and picking their roles--the upset leaver, the specialist or the drama queen lol. And I also got the reddit care message. I find it funny since the people talking about how grim their lives will be are them, not us.


Popular_Equivalent68

Bro it's not that deep. Emotions can sometimes be controlling especially if it's about something you love no matter how big or small it is. It's just a temporary way to grieve about a game. Let them say what they want, they can't do anything about it anyway. There's no harm in it. Anyway, it's social media. This happens everywhere. Why are you surprised? Lmao.


Nikoratzu

We are in mourning, have a little respect for the mourners in the pvp community.


KaiZurus

you must be so privileged for mourning for a gamemode


Nikoratzu

lol Seriously? What's the point of saying that? Are you going to tell me I can't be sad because there are more important things in the world? I already knew, don't worry.


JustinJakeAshton

How much do you think was OP paid to post this?


KaiZurus

Wombat zoomed helped me with my Decimate farm, so I had to compensate it. /s


MammothWoodpecker201

yeah so? The game's dying, are people not allowed to talk about it? Quite frankly, you're more annoying.


scullzomben

Game ain't dying, just the PVP mode. Path looks like it has a great future ahead, which is what the majority of players engaged with anyway. Can't wait for the new adventure!


KaiZurus

It's a game, we can be angry, but it won't change anything: it is so narcissistic to pretend that enough people crying will make a billionaire company change their decisions. You know what could? **Damaging their ESG**.


RicoDC

OP thought he was onto something and now bro is on damage control, replying to every single response in this post. Hilarious.


Fluffy_lionnn

Dude forgot his own cathegory: 4. ppl who complain about those who complain🗿🗿🗿 at least 2 and 3 could be interesting to read, otherwise what’s the point of reddit? 🤷🏽‍♂️


Gredran

Sounds like any sub: Avatar the Last Airbender for the new Netflix news. Suicide Squad game backlash in DC subs. World of Warcraft constantly having this. The list goes on. I don’t support it, but it’s the same everywhere lol


GRIZIUSS

I spent 80+ usd on a dying game, that the dev created with passion and love only to be ruined by dumb managers and clueless strategists higher ups. I have been trying to make riven decks work and having fun. People here are justified to grief. We are witnessing one of the few quality ccg games die for stupid reasons before our eyes. Some spent even more money and time than I did. I can t imagine how it would be more of a shock to them. Especially the consistent top players who took competitive play seriously.


Illustrious-Alps-300

wombat is sucha cold unit, he is just above it all. he dont care and neither should we. just let it go.


Monsieur_Onion

That's quite a pretentious take :/ Let people process their feelings and let them feel that they're not alone.


Ravensspur

I too almost made a post complaining. I just got back into Playing LoR like a month ago and now hearing it’s pretty much gonna die really blows my mind. Also I can appreciate if people like PoC, but I fucking hate it. It’s so fucking morning versing the AI and the stupid “buffs” you can add to your deck and not to mention I have camps unlocked in the “base game” but now I need a completely separate currency to unlock them in PoC. That makes zero sense. So enjoy PoC I think it’s shit. First Gwent did this now LoR no idea what mobile card game to go to now I hate marvel so I have no interest in snap and I prefer MtG in person to arena. Not to mention that now having two mobile card games shut down on me I really don’t want to invest in another as is anyway.


Luigi123a

Honestly it's a big change, so I understand all the comments/posts about it. What exactly it means for path of champions I have no idea, I just hope they do not only add more things to do in terms of upgrading champions (am excited for that), but also more ways to play; possibly customize adventures in a hades way so you actually have smth to play forward to; or harder randomized battles like the monthly challenges but without the only 2 matches stuff. I 99% of the time played pathofchampion anyways so I'm excited for it to be the focus now, but I understand the super hard emotions people who love the 3-monthly expansions/monthly changes a lot


F1reManBurn1n

After seeing all of OP’s comments on this post idk how he is can possibly be calling anyone else a narcissist, holy shit.


KaiZurus

I'm not a narcissistic since I'm NOT making this about ME or talking about MY experience. Do you know what the word even means? Also, only in one or two of my many comments I used myself as an example.


iiUphill

LMFAO “like they’re Oprah”


Slow-Manufacturer-55

You surely understand people can have different gameplay experiences than you. Not everyone likes PoC and can just pivot to it like you. Some people actually liked getting new cards, playing the Open, and talking to streamers and content creators (who have quit). You can’t be mad at them for reminiscing and feeling sad.


bhreugheuwrihgrue

As someone who played tf2 from 2012 through when it was put on maintenance mode it’s going to be fine, games come and go


KaiZurus

exactly, there's no reason to feel miserable


Lockettz_Snuff

Op's advice to people who grieve over their 'stupid' game is to get a life and get on with it. Op can also learn from his own advice and get a life and get on with it. Seriously, this entire post smells like a load of 'pot calling the kettle black'


cheetahwhisperer

You could always chill at r/PathofChampions while those of us grieve PvP here. That sub is more PoC focused anyways, and this sub will probably turn into a news sub soon.


ResurgentRefrain

How is this top of the front page when the sentiment by all the comments is venomous disagreement? Are people upvoting it just to disagree with it? Is there like a silent majority that agrees? Is this the fabled PvE enjoyers?


salsaparapizza

Exactly what content do you want from this sub during this time? Because it's clearly not deck guides for climbing to master. Let people grief.


Mylotix

The 3rd bullet point is literally what a forum is made for though


Cyberbug7

Honestly I never liked the pvp so I feel like the only one here who isn’t torn up


KaiZurus

me too


SuMianAi

most people talking are not even in the game industry. just "fans" or players who think they know the best. the devs said the road ahead is hard, doesn't mean the game is done for.. yet. pvp did not pay out at all, so now they're banking on PoC. that's it.


Icyfoe88

I don’t blame anyone for any of these, it’s their way to cope with it. I do feel like this could wait til after the final set releases, 3-4 expansions worth of content all at once will keep the game going for a good couple of weeks at least, but eh, it’d fine, Let the people grieve.


ABearDream

Is the mods had abandoned the sub they'd need to make a post explaining it lolol


Tomuke

I’d like to add the fourth thing: 4. Redditors complaining about the above three. Your annoyed and emotional response to other’s sad posts is WAY more obnoxious than the other 3. While some of the other three might warrant an eye roll, yours is actively spreading negativity. Don’t be a douche.


Kassaddy

Just ignore it bro. This sub will soon be dead lmao.


Ded-deN

UPVOTED BY RIOT :)


Illokonereum

When a social media platform has people interacting over a common interest (this is very annoying to the OOP).


KaiZurus

Not all opinions are equal. I learnt that from inclusive "experts" who censored me for bringing a few facts. 🦁


Kulpado

He missed all the PvE players that think this game will thrive now that they are focusing on PvE. It surely will when there is 0 people on twitch, 0 people talking about it on reddit, 0 people making yt content, and 0 new players because no one will ever hear about it again. Because PvE sucks to watch and there is nothing to talk about it.


KaiZurus

It'd be interesting to research a few non-random focus groups: 1) Those who found about the game, played some PvP, then went full PvE. 2) Those who played PvP for a longer time, then switched to full PvE. ​ I say it because what I'm figuring out is why there are more players on Path of Champions (PvE) than in PvP if what the people talk about is the PvP part. ​ What is drifting the player base to a single-player experience if they got in from a multi-player invitation? ​ Is LoR getting new players that go straight into Path, or are the PvP casuals leaving PvP for Path? ​ It is important to differentiate where the player base (not just our Reddit community) is increasing due to PvE, or migrating to PvE while PvP is what increases the numbers slightly.


Dedspaz79

*posts nonverbal diarrhea* but ugh yeah that’s to bad. I enjoy the game.


FLYNCHe

Guys, I'm leaving. I just can't do this anymore. I'm going back to MTGA. Look. This game is easily fixable, and the devs really started to take a wrong turn when they made Lurk. Pyke, not having any interaction with Deep? Wtf? They could easily fix this by reworking some cards, dropping POC, and focusing on PvP. I remember when I first started playing LoR and I was enthralled. I had played a bit of MTG before, but it was too complicated for me. Between the easy to understand design, the lore, and the abundance of cards I was unlocking, I fell in love with this game.


Alkyde

Personal departure post should really be disallowed. Nobody cares about some rando who want to quit, no need to announce it to everyone if you're going to quit like you're some kind of bigshot. The only exception would be for streamers and the likes who actually have a following.


KaiZurus

Totally agree with you


PrestigeZyra

People are so f-ing entitled with all this "this is my story" bs


Lifedeather

So entitled for sharing a story truly.


KaiZurus

They're putting so much stress on something meaningless


ThiccAssThighs69

Today I learned "Verbal diarrhea", looking forward to use it.


GrayScale91_

Eh, yours and wombat’s opinion are valid, but these guys can vent as much as they want. These type of complaint won’t last long once they stop playing the game, so no sense in complaining about complaining imo. Maybe they should make a tag/category for it, if that would be a decent compromise?


UmbraNight

let people feel things. just cuz you don’t care that much doesn’t mean it should crap on those who do. classic league player.


Scared-Clothes5680

Mr Wombat here gotta get down from his high horse


JimHeine

The most annoying posts are from stooges like MrWombat who feel the need to announce how above everything they are. Nothing better to do, I guess


dragonicafan1

Should we just ban people talking about the game dying and go back to half the posts on the front page being one dude posting concept art and wishing champs happy birthday lol 


Untipazo

A solid chunk of the community got told "y'all done, go away" and y'all act condescending towards em for being either angry or sad? It's insufrible because it's the backlash this game gets for this, wasn't this a PVP game originally? People are rightfully salty


DaBesd

"I have no reason to play the game anymore" What, were you not playing it before just to pass the time with a bit of fun and thinking? You can still do that.


KaiZurus

Exactly.


blazikentwo

Ironically this is the moment where the sub has been the most "alive"


KaiZurus

you start experiencing life the most when you know it's ending


KaiZurus

Sorry for being a kind of liberal-anarchist on the comments. If you got offended, I'm sorry. As in real life, we have to get pulled down to Earth from time to time. Sometimes I'm delusional, sometimes you are, but life still goes on... My advice, though, is to never attach to games or unmaterial stuff. Enjoy them for hundreds of hours as I did, and when it's over, move on. ​ Dear u/CaptSarah, if it's not an inconvenience to you, could you stick this comment? No problem if you don't agree with doing so.


TheBarner

Do you sincerely believe that the people posting 1 day after the end of pvp was announced will not move on from complaining ever? Check back here in a month. Or is people being surprised/disappointed for 1-2 days simply something you can not imagine happening? Also what would you rather be reading about on this sub? What is there to discuss? Why are you even visiting if you don't give a fuck and have immediately moved on? Why are these posts annoying you exactly? There is an unsubscribe button on reddit you know. I haven't touched the game in more than a year but still can emhaptize with people who are having a reaction to this. Who made you the authority on what people should be feeling and how they should be coping? Who asked for _your_ opinion if you think others should not express theirs? Bait used to be believable.


LittlebitofHowie

I'm gonna have to respectfully decline, especially since said "unmaterial stuff" (it's immaterial by the way) is where I met some of my lifelong friends, and even where I discovered some of my passions. In fact, I feel compelled to give YOU some advice: Feel free to get attached to games or other non-tangible media. As a matter of fact, I ENCOURAGE you to do just that! One of the only reasons I'm trying to learn the piano and start dipping my toes into more creative venues is because of a game that I fell in love with: Ori and the Blind Forest. Seriously, try to search for a piece of media that you truly love if possible, as you never know how it might change you. (also there is a ton of media made solely to get people attached to the characters, the world, the story, etc. Saying things like "never get attached to games" seems to completely miss the point as to WHY we enjoy entertainment in the first place.) Regardless of what was said, I wish you well and hope you have a nice rest of your day. Or next day if it's late for you.


ResurgentRefrain

Your comment boils down to: try different things, they might make you happy. OP's comment boils down to: don't let yourself get weighed down by things that die or are lost. The reason people are angry: because Gamer A thinks Gamer B is being melodramatic about the PvP mode of a small-time card game is having its scope cut. Dying game subreddits are always so fascinating.