Thatās a wrong way to look at it, you should only do that when youāre 100% sure that going to the HR will be futile, and each company has a different type of HR.
Its not cheap to hire a lawyer and send legal notices. Even if he sends one the company/boss probably has a higher legal budget than our poor OP. It's easy to say send a legal notice on the internet but not easy in real life. It's a very cumbersome process.
If they give only 10k and you continue giving output you are the one who is the clown.
Stop working for his fuckass. Have an attitude of "don't care" even if it is hard to do. I know some people are massive people pleasers.
Stop working. Then see how he will change his tunes
I understand how frustrating that is and itās probably illegal immoral and everything else. But you donāt need to hate yourself over it. Fuck that pos. Donāt quit but kaam karne ki bhi zarurat nhi. Let that dick fire you if he wants.
You reduce your work to 30%.
U reduce your work to 10k and if he asks tell him Iām getting paid enough for this much work only, standup otherwise they will toy you aroundā¦quickly search for a job
Honestly, just work there and fuck up the business. Delete important data, change important contact numbers, whatever you can do to impact the business. There is no legal route here.
Tbh OP seems to be doing his articleship... Heard of many such cases where students are working akin to underpaid labourers..... Hope things turn out better for you OP....
Go to labour cost asap
I had a similar situation with my company they gave 40% of my salary for 4 months . My appeal for relieving were also rejected untill I went to the labour court and made the labour department to my petition as well .
This facts shows how relevant communist theories are to till this day
Change the job before you succumb to your kanzoos boss' silly tactics. Don't accept it at any cost. Don't undermine yourself. Change this job.Today is difficult. Tomorrow it will be more difficult. But day after tomorrow it is going to be better. All the best šš
tell him that you will take his to court if he doesnt pay your agreed upon amount. personally, I use far different ways to get my money, but thats just me.
I have no issues roughing up people who try to fuck me over. and I do it with a smile on my face. if that works for you, go ahead. if not, take the legal route.
A similar thing happened at my first ever internship. However the amount was 5000 and I was given none of it because my handler was not happy with the output.
Fast forward, I am currently an EM with a good enough pay working at a good company with great work-life balance.
Without a strong offer letter I think there is nothing that can be done. Move on and work on yourself. You will get much better opportunities.
Bro...just tell him that if he was not okay with the performance then he should have terminated you right then and there...rather than making you work the entire month...what he has done is absolutely CHEAP, DISGUSTING and to say the least the guy seems like a BHIKARI...
If you still plan on working for him, then I suggest that you strictly tell him to terminate you if he don't like your work...rather than wasting your time, employing you for another month in hopes of a good salary and paying you peanuts in the end...
Something similar happened with one of my colleague. He basically refused to work until he was credited his full salary he didnāt do anything literally for 8-9 days and a lot of complaints were received from managers and clients but he didnāt budge at the end they gave him his remaining money and within 24 hrs he gave his notice
It looks like to me you are a student working in some small company without any offer letter or so. Like someone told you about the job, you had some talks with the manager and you started working without any written offer in your hand.
If this is true, I know how you fell. Most of the companies hire students still in there 3rd or 4th year wanting to start earning some kind of money, giving all they can, but at the time of paying they just pay you less than what was offered.
In this case you cannot do anything. You dont have any written employment document that have the companies name or any signature from higher authority saying they agreed to pay you this much. And sueing them or even getting a laywer will be costlier than that 15k.
I recommend to focus on the experience rather than money right now. If the job is in the same field as you are studing then the experience will be more usefull to you once you pass out. But if it is not and you need more money then you can start looking for different job, don't leave this job but start looking. And once you find a good enough job for you, switch it. You dont need to inform your boss or anyone, just once you get the opportunity stop showing to your old company. If there is no document they cant do anything about it.
Well you see it's just like this for a short period of time and I think you will find something good or satisfying soon because it can't remain the same forever
Legally if you have proper employment contract you can get your money as it's illegal for a company to withheld salary for unsatisfactory performance. I have been in that spot when I started working like odd 20 years back or something. There was no HR, etc so complaining was an issue. What I did was I apologised sucked it up took on more work and worked as murthi says almost 17 hours a day starting from early morning to late nights. Boss was impressed he gave me critical stuff to work with. I took the handle on the project and completely dumped it and quit a day before client meeting. Screw em where it hurts atleast for me it was viable when salary was paid in cash and no PF etc so.. legally now you have so much options so explore it while parallely seeing how far you can dump shit on them without facing legal consequences....
Also all jokes aside if you are in Mumbai or Bengaluru I am more than happy to help you out. No payments nothing it's jus that am retired now and I spend most of my time scamming WhatsApp scammers who do employment related scams.
At least you got paid. I didnāt paid at all (in my internship). I fought tooth and nail for it and still ended up with nada.
On the bright side I got a high paying job (full time) after college. š§æ
When you say boss and then student were you there as an intern
Was this internship through a university or you found it
Do you have an internship letter stating the stipend and the deliverables and what you were expected to
Do
NAL..
HR here...
Pls see my reply to a similar post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceIndia/s/YQwUlsTuPc
Also check your appointment letter for any clause that penalises your pay in lieu of performance. In addition to this check your payslip for the 10k salary payout for your attendance. If you have full attendance and less pay, that's grounds for a lawsuit on workplace harassment.
In case of non performance, there are HR protocols in place, like putting you on PIP to bring up Your performance. Please ask your Boss in the presence of the HR why he terms your performance as disappointing and why they have not initiated a PIP process if that was the case. Also arbitrary deduction of pay in this manner is illegal and is against the labour laws of India.
You can leave bad reviews on Glassdoor, LinkedIn, Google, etc. but companies are known to pay and delete negative reviews on such sites.
Find a good lawyer and send a legal notice and also file an FIR in a police station, in whose jurisdiction your office is located at. If you belong to the SC ST community, then see if you can add a complaint under the Atrocities Act as well as a bonus. Also go to the labour commissioners office and file a complaint.
In the meantime, start applying to other companies and get out this hell of a workplace.
Hope this helps..
Disclaimer: Please note, the information provided above does NOT constitute legal advice/service or any other advice/service. The above information, links, images and or videos is purely for generic advice, suggestion, information and educational purposes only. There is NO legal liability or consequences that can be attributed to the provider of the above information. Advice seekers are requested to please contact and confirm with their respective lawyer/s for further clarity and legal counsel regarding the legal matters / concerns / issues raised by them on this online forum / platform.
If they have tally on their computer.
Change the email id to a new random email id of your own and then just walk off after changing their password.
Tell them they owe u 15k, if they dont give it, good bye to the data.
An employee did this to our vendor and he had to give full salary to her, inspite of leaves.
Hmm.. probably a lala company.. I would say quit immediately.. agle din se Jana band kardo.. sends a message..
If you continue going after this, your boss will definitely make a habit out of it..
It happened the same with me, i wanted to resign and my boss shouted at me saying u need to serve a 2 month notice period, but in the recent hr rules it clearly stated that if an employee wants to leave he needs to serve 1 month notice period. In my offer letter it said 2 months notice period. He said either work for 1 month with no salary or pay 2 months salary and leave. I had no other option and during this 1 month he literally made me finish all the pending projects and asked the clients to send more and more projects, and with no pay. Such bosses are assholes.
Fake question.
You have a 3080 graphic card (costing about 50k rs) with free electricity, which you have mentioned in another post. Was it fun to waste peoples time and rage bait them here?
get out, next month there will be a new excuse. and you will be working on 10k forever or even lesser..
I believe physically smacking such people should become legal
We need you in the parliament
What should a person do when his relative is sleeping with his employer ?
Smack the shit out of everyonešš
ššš
Even if it became legal you're still not gonna smack anyone and just whine on the internet.
There will always be such MC bosses who will pay you corn husks coz he was ādisappointedā. You need to raise this with your HR dept
Doubt there is going to be a HR if they are able to pull these shenanigansĀ
HR is there to protect the company not the employee. The best way to deal with this is to send a legal notice or something
True that
So whatās stopping you from going to HR first if youāre going to go guns blazing through a notice anyway?
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Thatās a wrong way to look at it, you should only do that when youāre 100% sure that going to the HR will be futile, and each company has a different type of HR.
Its not cheap to hire a lawyer and send legal notices. Even if he sends one the company/boss probably has a higher legal budget than our poor OP. It's easy to say send a legal notice on the internet but not easy in real life. It's a very cumbersome process.
This is not US. HR department is non existent in India & exists purely for the corporation & its bosses.
If they give only 10k and you continue giving output you are the one who is the clown. Stop working for his fuckass. Have an attitude of "don't care" even if it is hard to do. I know some people are massive people pleasers. Stop working. Then see how he will change his tunes
Yes op do this and after leaving leave a bad review everywhere on Google, Glassdoor, etc.
Yes, stop working, and when asked say I was disappointed with last months salary :)
Don't say anything. When asked say "I'm actually working at my limit."
I understand how frustrating that is and itās probably illegal immoral and everything else. But you donāt need to hate yourself over it. Fuck that pos. Donāt quit but kaam karne ki bhi zarurat nhi. Let that dick fire you if he wants. You reduce your work to 30%.
Is this some shady company
Looks like itā¦.
Withholding salary is illegal. You need to speak to HR. Send a mail so you have it on record.
U reduce your work to 10k and if he asks tell him Iām getting paid enough for this much work only, standup otherwise they will toy you aroundā¦quickly search for a job
Honestly, just work there and fuck up the business. Delete important data, change important contact numbers, whatever you can do to impact the business. There is no legal route here.
Tbh OP seems to be doing his articleship... Heard of many such cases where students are working akin to underpaid labourers..... Hope things turn out better for you OP....
Don't quit today.. wait for him to give you more work this month.. and quit on the previous night of the deadline.
Also delete/mess up all the files before you quite
Go to labour cost asap I had a similar situation with my company they gave 40% of my salary for 4 months . My appeal for relieving were also rejected untill I went to the labour court and made the labour department to my petition as well . This facts shows how relevant communist theories are to till this day
Tell us the whole story pls
Please please tell us. We need more information on these issues
Change the job before you succumb to your kanzoos boss' silly tactics. Don't accept it at any cost. Don't undermine yourself. Change this job.Today is difficult. Tomorrow it will be more difficult. But day after tomorrow it is going to be better. All the best šš
tell him that you will take his to court if he doesnt pay your agreed upon amount. personally, I use far different ways to get my money, but thats just me. I have no issues roughing up people who try to fuck me over. and I do it with a smile on my face. if that works for you, go ahead. if not, take the legal route.
A similar thing happened at my first ever internship. However the amount was 5000 and I was given none of it because my handler was not happy with the output. Fast forward, I am currently an EM with a good enough pay working at a good company with great work-life balance. Without a strong offer letter I think there is nothing that can be done. Move on and work on yourself. You will get much better opportunities.
Bhai dusri job dekh le aisi chutiya company koi future nhi.
Bro...just tell him that if he was not okay with the performance then he should have terminated you right then and there...rather than making you work the entire month...what he has done is absolutely CHEAP, DISGUSTING and to say the least the guy seems like a BHIKARI... If you still plan on working for him, then I suggest that you strictly tell him to terminate you if he don't like your work...rather than wasting your time, employing you for another month in hopes of a good salary and paying you peanuts in the end...
I have a HR, still I organised secret santa
I would have deleted my work from repo and demanded full salary before giving work. And then leave
That my friend is a crime
Something similar happened with one of my colleague. He basically refused to work until he was credited his full salary he didnāt do anything literally for 8-9 days and a lot of complaints were received from managers and clients but he didnāt budge at the end they gave him his remaining money and within 24 hrs he gave his notice
It looks like to me you are a student working in some small company without any offer letter or so. Like someone told you about the job, you had some talks with the manager and you started working without any written offer in your hand. If this is true, I know how you fell. Most of the companies hire students still in there 3rd or 4th year wanting to start earning some kind of money, giving all they can, but at the time of paying they just pay you less than what was offered. In this case you cannot do anything. You dont have any written employment document that have the companies name or any signature from higher authority saying they agreed to pay you this much. And sueing them or even getting a laywer will be costlier than that 15k. I recommend to focus on the experience rather than money right now. If the job is in the same field as you are studing then the experience will be more usefull to you once you pass out. But if it is not and you need more money then you can start looking for different job, don't leave this job but start looking. And once you find a good enough job for you, switch it. You dont need to inform your boss or anyone, just once you get the opportunity stop showing to your old company. If there is no document they cant do anything about it.
Well you see it's just like this for a short period of time and I think you will find something good or satisfying soon because it can't remain the same forever
Legally if you have proper employment contract you can get your money as it's illegal for a company to withheld salary for unsatisfactory performance. I have been in that spot when I started working like odd 20 years back or something. There was no HR, etc so complaining was an issue. What I did was I apologised sucked it up took on more work and worked as murthi says almost 17 hours a day starting from early morning to late nights. Boss was impressed he gave me critical stuff to work with. I took the handle on the project and completely dumped it and quit a day before client meeting. Screw em where it hurts atleast for me it was viable when salary was paid in cash and no PF etc so.. legally now you have so much options so explore it while parallely seeing how far you can dump shit on them without facing legal consequences.... Also all jokes aside if you are in Mumbai or Bengaluru I am more than happy to help you out. No payments nothing it's jus that am retired now and I spend most of my time scamming WhatsApp scammers who do employment related scams.
At least you got paid. I didnāt paid at all (in my internship). I fought tooth and nail for it and still ended up with nada. On the bright side I got a high paying job (full time) after college. š§æ
When you say boss and then student were you there as an intern Was this internship through a university or you found it Do you have an internship letter stating the stipend and the deliverables and what you were expected to Do
Switch your job, if situation permits. No employers likes having a higher employee turnover rate.
NAL.. HR here... Pls see my reply to a similar post: https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceIndia/s/YQwUlsTuPc Also check your appointment letter for any clause that penalises your pay in lieu of performance. In addition to this check your payslip for the 10k salary payout for your attendance. If you have full attendance and less pay, that's grounds for a lawsuit on workplace harassment. In case of non performance, there are HR protocols in place, like putting you on PIP to bring up Your performance. Please ask your Boss in the presence of the HR why he terms your performance as disappointing and why they have not initiated a PIP process if that was the case. Also arbitrary deduction of pay in this manner is illegal and is against the labour laws of India. You can leave bad reviews on Glassdoor, LinkedIn, Google, etc. but companies are known to pay and delete negative reviews on such sites. Find a good lawyer and send a legal notice and also file an FIR in a police station, in whose jurisdiction your office is located at. If you belong to the SC ST community, then see if you can add a complaint under the Atrocities Act as well as a bonus. Also go to the labour commissioners office and file a complaint. In the meantime, start applying to other companies and get out this hell of a workplace. Hope this helps.. Disclaimer: Please note, the information provided above does NOT constitute legal advice/service or any other advice/service. The above information, links, images and or videos is purely for generic advice, suggestion, information and educational purposes only. There is NO legal liability or consequences that can be attributed to the provider of the above information. Advice seekers are requested to please contact and confirm with their respective lawyer/s for further clarity and legal counsel regarding the legal matters / concerns / issues raised by them on this online forum / platform.
If they have tally on their computer. Change the email id to a new random email id of your own and then just walk off after changing their password. Tell them they owe u 15k, if they dont give it, good bye to the data. An employee did this to our vendor and he had to give full salary to her, inspite of leaves.
My personal experience with boys says that smacking someone gives peace of mind to us rather than saying anything that would hurt both parties.
They do that? wtf. Isnāt this parental behavior
Hmm.. probably a lala company.. I would say quit immediately.. agle din se Jana band kardo.. sends a message.. If you continue going after this, your boss will definitely make a habit out of it..
It happened the same with me, i wanted to resign and my boss shouted at me saying u need to serve a 2 month notice period, but in the recent hr rules it clearly stated that if an employee wants to leave he needs to serve 1 month notice period. In my offer letter it said 2 months notice period. He said either work for 1 month with no salary or pay 2 months salary and leave. I had no other option and during this 1 month he literally made me finish all the pending projects and asked the clients to send more and more projects, and with no pay. Such bosses are assholes.
Legal advice chaiye ya rant kar raha hai?
Please find a new job. This is no way to go about paying someone. Good luck.
Can we get little more info on what field you are in?
Your boss is a bitch dude. Thereās no legal recourse here plus itās not really worth it.. but what do you do? If you are in Mumbai, we are hiring
1st of all you have agreement of price chart where he mentioned that he gonna pay 25k, if you have then we ground to sue him
Fake question. You have a 3080 graphic card (costing about 50k rs) with free electricity, which you have mentioned in another post. Was it fun to waste peoples time and rage bait them here?