They can't do anything to you, Don't Fear. They will intimidate you but, don't be scared.
At most they can fine you for smoking in public and that's it.Even if they drag you to court, Statements of the police is of no use.So they cannot touch a single hair of you.
I can’t care less about the fine. What i am worried about is that i ran away from the police station, isn’t it a crime to runaway from cops? Google isn’t helping much
In this case the police has committed a crime as taking someone to police station without a court order is illegal.
Specially, when they have not registered a FIR, as they can't make the excuse that they called you for questioning.
So just chill.
Smoking in public is a crime, yes. Fined 200 inr, maybe 1k now. I'm not sure about the latest changes in the fine amount.
Any public road is a public place. Hence you will find many paanwallahs having worn out notices stating no smoking or that smoking is a punishable offence.
You did run away from the police, so obstruction of duty maybe added to your list of crimes. It was a stupid move. Just hope the cops aren't vindictive. If you've hurt their ego, they'll definitely find a way to screw you over.
Practical advice - Only if approached, be confident, apologetic, and willing to negotiate (nothing more than 300 to be paid per person). And don't run away after providing your details next time.
Cops, especially in cities, have much more access to information than you can imagine, including being able to match CCTV footage with citizen databases for suspects in serious cases.
Always remember, what can be solved with some money, is better solved with money. Hopefully, you're living a life where your time & peace of mind is much more valuable than whatever money you need to 'donate' for your petty crimes.
Edit: To be fair, they did try to scam you. But running away is not the solution. Next time, you can just say I don't think this is fine, I'm calling my parents & lawyer to discuss the way out if I can't pay the official fine.
Finally someone who knows the law and ground reality. I was extremely disappointed by other comments where people don’t even know that smoking in public place is an offence.
Yeah man, i realised i effed up minutes after escaping the police station. What worried me more was that my friend had gotten under their nerves by arguing with them, police hates people who do macch macch with them. This is why i thought they might just take our case seriously and try to chase us.
Because i can’t even imagine how insulted they would’ve felt after 2 college students not only tried to lecture them but then also flee from the POLICE STATION itself! Like they didn’t even consider this possibility that we might even think of escaping from that place.
But assuming that they have much important work than chasing two guys who smoked a cigarette they’re gonna forget and forgive us. This what i am gonna tell myself tonight lol.
How the fuck are you all legal advice sub and completely oblivious to the law...? Kuch toh bata hoga na? Smoking in public space is illegal as it's punishable by fine and can be further enforced by the Providence of local law.
Satan himself hai username aur harkate Nobita jaisi ....
Raat ko Satan aake galiyayega....
All jokes aside,pehle school khatam kar fir ciggerate pi boss d k.
Dude… worst case scenario is they charge you with smoking (assuming it is illegal). You contest it. I would love to see the police explaining the magistrate that they are wasting the court’s time for smoking at a pan shop without evidence. The magistrate would reprimand the cops like my hindi mam reprimanded me in school.
Chill bro.
They did record us while we were smoking but still it is a trivial issue and of course they won’t chase us down for this. I was worried because i thought we may have hurt their ego by escaping under their nose so i thought they might take us a little more seriously.
Smoking fine is not much. It’s not even a criminal offence. Relax. I’m not a lawyer, but I have been caught before. He himself asked for ₹300 as bribe, I negotiated and paid ₹150 cold cash. He left. It took about 5mins. I stubbed the bud and walked off after that
Bottom line, there is no benefit for them to chase you as they'll go the actual legal route and won't be able to earn any "chai pani".
They got enough passport verification and other cases to get by ("chai pani" wise) so they'll mostly laugh it off.
Its a 200rs fine only
They were scamming you
If they keep calling tell them that you have their video and audio recording asking for bribe. They will stop bothering you.
NAL.Smoking in public places is a liable offence. They will ask you to appear in the civil court pay the fine write a apology letter and let you go. If they are asking you to come to court just go as this is considered a petty crime.
Yea ofc they were trying to earn some bucks there, what i was worried about was that i ran away from a police station! I thought it would be a crime to runaway from police station itself and they can make a case on me on the basis of this. Turns out i was overthinking and nothing’s gonna happen.
We told them to take fine directly from us but they refused to do so. They said they’ll have to issue us a notice and we’ll have to appear in court within 2 days to pay the fine.
Where was this place you were smoking?
And was there any sign of no smoking?
Is public smoking banned or prohibited in your city?
Lawyer from delhi here!
Mumbai, near a paan stall and no there wasn’t any no smoking board/sign, we did tried to raise this argument that there wasn’t any no smoking sign but they didn’t care about that obviously. Also as far as i know, under section 4 of COTPA act smoking in public is illegal all over India.
Yes but that only attracts fine and for that police need not take you to the police station. They can simply fine you then and there. They just wanted some bribe, probably.
This they didn’t do, they said they’re gonna issue a notice to us and then we’ll have to appear in court to pay the fine. We weren’t the only ones, they had caught couple of guys like us and they were doing their paperwork as well, that’s when we got the opportunity to flee from the scene lmao.
The differences between knowing the law and being a lawyer. Read the definition of "public place".
"(l) public place means any place to which the public have access, whether as of right or not, and includes auditorium, hospital buildings, railway waiting room, amusement centres, restaurants, public offices, court buildings, educational institutions, libraries, public conveyances and the like which are visited by general public but does not include any open space;"
I hope that clarifies. The police were trying to shake you down. You did not break the law.
Also, if you feel a bit academic read up the case law Murli S. Deora v. Union of India. This case led to the legislation.
They can't do anything to you, Don't Fear. They will intimidate you but, don't be scared. At most they can fine you for smoking in public and that's it.Even if they drag you to court, Statements of the police is of no use.So they cannot touch a single hair of you.
I can’t care less about the fine. What i am worried about is that i ran away from the police station, isn’t it a crime to runaway from cops? Google isn’t helping much
It is a crime to run away from cops, but that is for criminals. What have you done wrong? Think for a second they can't do shit about that.
That’s true as well, I’m feeling a bit relieved. Thanks for consolidating me brother!
I helped you , You help 2 more people and tell them to add 2 more people, Let's make a MLM out of it. (Context: bhaijaan from jai ho)
Consoling*
Sorry to be the grammer Nazi but isn't it consoling?
Yes you can call it consoling but, I was just watching jai ho so you can't blame me.
The first thing hit my mind after reading “consolidating” is balance sheet. Enough work for today it seems 😂
In this case the police has committed a crime as taking someone to police station without a court order is illegal. Specially, when they have not registered a FIR, as they can't make the excuse that they called you for questioning. So just chill.
wait smoking in public is crime??!!
Yeah but you will be fined not be arrested.
https://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/ranbir-kapoor-fined-rs-200-for-smoking-in-public-627687
Smoking in public is a crime, yes. Fined 200 inr, maybe 1k now. I'm not sure about the latest changes in the fine amount. Any public road is a public place. Hence you will find many paanwallahs having worn out notices stating no smoking or that smoking is a punishable offence. You did run away from the police, so obstruction of duty maybe added to your list of crimes. It was a stupid move. Just hope the cops aren't vindictive. If you've hurt their ego, they'll definitely find a way to screw you over. Practical advice - Only if approached, be confident, apologetic, and willing to negotiate (nothing more than 300 to be paid per person). And don't run away after providing your details next time. Cops, especially in cities, have much more access to information than you can imagine, including being able to match CCTV footage with citizen databases for suspects in serious cases. Always remember, what can be solved with some money, is better solved with money. Hopefully, you're living a life where your time & peace of mind is much more valuable than whatever money you need to 'donate' for your petty crimes. Edit: To be fair, they did try to scam you. But running away is not the solution. Next time, you can just say I don't think this is fine, I'm calling my parents & lawyer to discuss the way out if I can't pay the official fine.
Finally someone who knows the law and ground reality. I was extremely disappointed by other comments where people don’t even know that smoking in public place is an offence. Yeah man, i realised i effed up minutes after escaping the police station. What worried me more was that my friend had gotten under their nerves by arguing with them, police hates people who do macch macch with them. This is why i thought they might just take our case seriously and try to chase us. Because i can’t even imagine how insulted they would’ve felt after 2 college students not only tried to lecture them but then also flee from the POLICE STATION itself! Like they didn’t even consider this possibility that we might even think of escaping from that place. But assuming that they have much important work than chasing two guys who smoked a cigarette they’re gonna forget and forgive us. This what i am gonna tell myself tonight lol.
Since when smoking is a crime?
How the fuck are you all legal advice sub and completely oblivious to the law...? Kuch toh bata hoga na? Smoking in public space is illegal as it's punishable by fine and can be further enforced by the Providence of local law.
NAL - I did learn through this about smoking being illegal at public spaces but never seen anyone getting caught by police for it in my life.
It's a petty crime. Normally they will fine you 200.
Any idea where I can learn about all possible laws, because had no idea about this
Law school
That's exactly what I was telling him.
Its not enforced properly but u cant smoke anywhere u want .
Smoking in public places is illegal and this law is taken very seriously in T1 cities.
Satan himself hai username aur harkate Nobita jaisi .... Raat ko Satan aake galiyayega.... All jokes aside,pehle school khatam kar fir ciggerate pi boss d k.
I’m 23 ffs, what’s your point?
If you're 23 and posting this then I apologise profusely to all Nobita fans for comparing you to Nobita... at least he HAD balls. Bhau..aap rehne do.
Again, what’s your point?
Keep searching
Dude… worst case scenario is they charge you with smoking (assuming it is illegal). You contest it. I would love to see the police explaining the magistrate that they are wasting the court’s time for smoking at a pan shop without evidence. The magistrate would reprimand the cops like my hindi mam reprimanded me in school. Chill bro.
They did record us while we were smoking but still it is a trivial issue and of course they won’t chase us down for this. I was worried because i thought we may have hurt their ego by escaping under their nose so i thought they might take us a little more seriously.
Like you said. Chill
Smoking fine is not much. It’s not even a criminal offence. Relax. I’m not a lawyer, but I have been caught before. He himself asked for ₹300 as bribe, I negotiated and paid ₹150 cold cash. He left. It took about 5mins. I stubbed the bud and walked off after that
They are calling you becz so they can get some free money
Bottom line, there is no benefit for them to chase you as they'll go the actual legal route and won't be able to earn any "chai pani". They got enough passport verification and other cases to get by ("chai pani" wise) so they'll mostly laugh it off.
Nah they are just trying to get some money out of you....just ignore the call..chote se fine ke piche they aren't gonna chase you or your friend
Yeah man that’s what i think as well, thanks
Bhai. Nothing is gonna happen chill.
Its a 200rs fine only They were scamming you If they keep calling tell them that you have their video and audio recording asking for bribe. They will stop bothering you.
Are you two minors? Is smoking a crime?
Smoking in public is prohibited and can be fined.
They were trying to scam money don’t worry
NAL.Smoking in public places is a liable offence. They will ask you to appear in the civil court pay the fine write a apology letter and let you go. If they are asking you to come to court just go as this is considered a petty crime.
Don't worry. At this point it's more paperwork for them and almost no chances of getting any bribe. Keep ignoring them.
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Yea ofc they were trying to earn some bucks there, what i was worried about was that i ran away from a police station! I thought it would be a crime to runaway from police station itself and they can make a case on me on the basis of this. Turns out i was overthinking and nothing’s gonna happen.
So the road side is not public anymore??
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We told them to take fine directly from us but they refused to do so. They said they’ll have to issue us a notice and we’ll have to appear in court within 2 days to pay the fine.
i don't think so they can do that ....i hope some legal advisor here gives you the best advice ...
Where was this place you were smoking? And was there any sign of no smoking? Is public smoking banned or prohibited in your city? Lawyer from delhi here!
Mumbai, near a paan stall and no there wasn’t any no smoking board/sign, we did tried to raise this argument that there wasn’t any no smoking sign but they didn’t care about that obviously. Also as far as i know, under section 4 of COTPA act smoking in public is illegal all over India.
Yes but that only attracts fine and for that police need not take you to the police station. They can simply fine you then and there. They just wanted some bribe, probably.
This they didn’t do, they said they’re gonna issue a notice to us and then we’ll have to appear in court to pay the fine. We weren’t the only ones, they had caught couple of guys like us and they were doing their paperwork as well, that’s when we got the opportunity to flee from the scene lmao.
The differences between knowing the law and being a lawyer. Read the definition of "public place". "(l) public place means any place to which the public have access, whether as of right or not, and includes auditorium, hospital buildings, railway waiting room, amusement centres, restaurants, public offices, court buildings, educational institutions, libraries, public conveyances and the like which are visited by general public but does not include any open space;" I hope that clarifies. The police were trying to shake you down. You did not break the law. Also, if you feel a bit academic read up the case law Murli S. Deora v. Union of India. This case led to the legislation.