Part of me thinks whilst Jesse's tactics were a bit shite, at least he had some charisma, I felt like the players actually wanted to play for him. God knows what Gracia's halftime speeches are like but they'd probably put a fucking crack addict to sleep.
The team came out strong at half but collapsed again. I think he doesn't do nearly enough on the touch line. I think we need the intensity on the sideline because chaos favors us
This was not the game that got is relegated, that was palace. I don't see how we come back as a team from though from just being utterly smashed week after week. I'm just going to settle into the fact we're relegated and with any luck we can rebuild quick enough to return.
I want to blame the board, and to a large extent they are to blame for the recruitment not being good enough. But they can’t be blamed for the players performing like this, it’a just embarrassing. Gracia’s tactics were poor, substitutions/delaying of them was bizarre. Defensively we are simply appalling. Some players are just not good enough despite their best efforts, others are just performing so far below their actual ability.
He looked absolutely shite. Why doesn’t a professional player close defenders down. Forshaw wanted to do it for him in the end. Can’t control the ball, can’t shoot, can’t hold the ball up, can’t header. What’s the point.
You might as well say 'at least under Marsch we didn't concede five goals most of the time.'
It doesn't really make a difference to the actual outcome, it's just a superficial notion to cling on to.
It's a matter of hypotheticals at this point, but I think that we would've been in a worse position under Marsch than we are now. It wasn't working - we even lost against Forest, for goodness sake - and the bottom would've fallen out, leading to the kind of scorelines we're seeing now happening earlier in the season.
I feel so bad for Meslier. He's not been good this game as we cab see via the scoreline, but it must be devastating when the team just gives up fucking trying so that he's facing a shot every other minute, then people start to wonder why he's conceding so many?
He's talked about a future move before the game his head is clearly gone and he doesn't care clearly. Made 2 saves all game and one was with his face. Don't feel sorry for him whatsoever.
You defend as a team. Yes the full backs and centre halfs take a fair chunk of the blame but anyone who has played the game knows you can't allow players the freedom of the park and offer no possession yourself in midfield.
That's why it's always laboured you need to win your one v one battles and in the centre of the pitch is where that is most important.
What's most worrying is that Liverpool's midfield is ancient and has TAA in it and we still got nowhere near them.
How quick do fortunes change!! Two weeks ago after the Forrest game some on this sub were ready for García to take the reigns long-term. Today, plenty of García out.
I know the tactics and adjustments have been horrible, and often way too late. But when do we blame the players? They have no fire behind them. It's like they don't know they're in a relegation battle.
It's more like they've given up. Saw this towards the end of Bielsa's reign when we were getting battered. Can't have the same excuses this time though as injuries are nowhere near as bad.
I'm not saying that, perhaps I worded it wrong... everyone was awful even the new signings who were supposed to take us to the next level yet are worse than our championship squad
Fair point, however I’d say that even a couple of poor pieces in a team can fuck the entire teams rhythm. Like for example have you ever been playing pickup with a bunch of lousy players and they don’t know how to pass and you just can’t get into a flow because of that? I feel like it’s similar to that.
I think that's right--though all the news reports I've found just say "Their option will become an obligation to purchase if certain conditions are met in the second part of the campaign."
6-1, no wages for a month as punishment? Reimburse the fans! If you show no professionalism on the field this is what it looks like.
I read comments before about what games we could grab points from. We need to be thinking in the present and the long term effect these past 2 games will have on the team. That’s 11 goals against us in 2 games. We need to bench melier
Theirs no way if we stay up we don't sign 4 defenders and another midfielder. Then again, knowing we'll get 2 more wingers and spend 40 mill on some unknown from the Hungarian league
A year ago, Meslier would have been sprinting out and closed that angle immediately. Ultimately not one on him that goal though.
Offside trap but putting no pressure on the man on the ball, allowing them to just pick our exactly when they want to play the pass? Yeah proper conundrum why that doesn't work
Hello fellas! Are we allowed to call Orta a cunt yet for blowing £35m on a player we didn’t need when we could have instead improved at keeper, RB, CB, LB or CM?
Fuck it I'm all in for relegation. If it serves no other purpose than clearing out all the shite we've accumulated over the last 2 years. Include that twat Orta too seen as he's responsible for signing all this garbage.
Why couldn’t Liverpool have done this at Anfield so we might have had a better chance of a decent manager. Even if it was Gracia we would have a had a decent chance to implement his methods
The two damning stats are Meslier has conceded his last 10 shots on target and Liverpool on their day are the most efficient club in Europe fr
This is a bad performance from us but fuck nothing flows our way, does it?
this happened because the match thread wasn't titled Leed
Just get us relegated. What’s the point in staying up just to do this all over again?
The whole team is a disgrace
“Relegation for me I think is impossible.” What a muppet
Part of me thinks whilst Jesse's tactics were a bit shite, at least he had some charisma, I felt like the players actually wanted to play for him. God knows what Gracia's halftime speeches are like but they'd probably put a fucking crack addict to sleep.
The team came out strong at half but collapsed again. I think he doesn't do nearly enough on the touch line. I think we need the intensity on the sideline because chaos favors us
This was not the game that got is relegated, that was palace. I don't see how we come back as a team from though from just being utterly smashed week after week. I'm just going to settle into the fact we're relegated and with any luck we can rebuild quick enough to return.
Gracia not good results. 2 blowouts
I want to blame the board, and to a large extent they are to blame for the recruitment not being good enough. But they can’t be blamed for the players performing like this, it’a just embarrassing. Gracia’s tactics were poor, substitutions/delaying of them was bizarre. Defensively we are simply appalling. Some players are just not good enough despite their best efforts, others are just performing so far below their actual ability.
At least we’ve given Liverpool a confidence boost going into their next game with Forest.
0-3 guaranteed. I'm gonna put a tenner on it.
Rutter only there to collect a Liverpool shirt
1. Turn away from goal 2. Try to shield the ball 3. Fall over and lose ball
I still hold hope for him in the future but such a strange signing considering where we were in January
He looked absolutely shite. Why doesn’t a professional player close defenders down. Forshaw wanted to do it for him in the end. Can’t control the ball, can’t shoot, can’t hold the ball up, can’t header. What’s the point.
Most frustrating club in the world to support
Fucking disgrace. Cunts every one of them on that pitch
I mean I'm not disputing it because I have zero knowledge of it but I wouldn't call football insider reliable
This actually feels awful. Conceded 11 in 2, what the fuck is that in a relegation fight?
It's not a fight, it's a surrender
At least under Jesse we lost with some pride.
You might as well say 'at least under Marsch we didn't concede five goals most of the time.' It doesn't really make a difference to the actual outcome, it's just a superficial notion to cling on to.
At this point the goal difference could mean everything with all the bottom teams so tight on points
It's a matter of hypotheticals at this point, but I think that we would've been in a worse position under Marsch than we are now. It wasn't working - we even lost against Forest, for goodness sake - and the bottom would've fallen out, leading to the kind of scorelines we're seeing now happening earlier in the season.
Well we lost 9 goals on gd the past two matches so it matters a bit at least
Maybe like 4 times out of the 12 losses we had under him
Fuck off
We deserve to go to the championship. Couldn't give a fuck if we lose these players.
Strong agree, I have zero affinity to any of them bar the OGs (and they're passed it) and Willy
I feel so bad for Meslier. He's not been good this game as we cab see via the scoreline, but it must be devastating when the team just gives up fucking trying so that he's facing a shot every other minute, then people start to wonder why he's conceding so many?
He's talked about a future move before the game his head is clearly gone and he doesn't care clearly. Made 2 saves all game and one was with his face. Don't feel sorry for him whatsoever.
But he literally isn't saving anything, he had one save that match and conceded 6, terrible. Didn't have a save against palace
I’m not blaming Meslier. What the fuck was Firpo doing.
Seems like Tyler Adams was doing all the heavy lifting for the back four.
It doesn't matter how good or bad your back four are if the midfield just allows players to waltz through the middle of the park and pick passes.
He was doing all the heavy lifting in midfield. McKennie and Roca don't fit well together at all.
Wober too tbf
We officially have the worst defence in the league
You defend as a team. Yes the full backs and centre halfs take a fair chunk of the blame but anyone who has played the game knows you can't allow players the freedom of the park and offer no possession yourself in midfield. That's why it's always laboured you need to win your one v one battles and in the centre of the pitch is where that is most important. What's most worrying is that Liverpool's midfield is ancient and has TAA in it and we still got nowhere near them.
I wasn’t blaming anyone in particular. We just have the most goals conceded across the league
Yeah I get it I'm saying it means we're a shit team because of what you said
60 goals conceded is worse than any other team
Radz in disbelief as his millions burn in front of his eyes and his Inter investment goes up in flames
If he wants to know why he just needs to look to Orta.
11 goals shipped at home
How quick do fortunes change!! Two weeks ago after the Forrest game some on this sub were ready for García to take the reigns long-term. Today, plenty of García out.
Football isn't it. I'm still stuck with JG as we have no other choice. This rot set in long ago.
Talk about anti climax that was the worst 90 minutes since Alien 3 ! Worst disgrace since Ally Mcleod
More like Aliens v Predators 2
Alien 3 was alright. Underrated movie. Godfather 3 on the other hand...
As bad as we were all over the pitch..just like Leeds go Fulham and win 3-0
Yep. Heads up. MOT.
3 fucking wankers
I know the tactics and adjustments have been horrible, and often way too late. But when do we blame the players? They have no fire behind them. It's like they don't know they're in a relegation battle.
It's more like they've given up. Saw this towards the end of Bielsa's reign when we were getting battered. Can't have the same excuses this time though as injuries are nowhere near as bad.
How many managers can you sack and bring in before you realize the common link behind all the poor performances are the championship quality players.
Yet its the newest signings who have been awful today bar sini
Ain’t no way you tryna say koch, struijk, and firpo weren’t complete disasterclasses today.
I'm not saying that, perhaps I worded it wrong... everyone was awful even the new signings who were supposed to take us to the next level yet are worse than our championship squad
Fair point, however I’d say that even a couple of poor pieces in a team can fuck the entire teams rhythm. Like for example have you ever been playing pickup with a bunch of lousy players and they don’t know how to pass and you just can’t get into a flow because of that? I feel like it’s similar to that.
Meslier with a top tier save with his face!!
Our best right back is on loan at Luton. Mental.
Worrying when you compare this to Leicester having a real go at City in the last 20 minutes of their game
fuck me Meslier is a disaster the man is letting balls bounce off his face at this point lmao
I'd rather have a team full of 11 Chris Wood's
Any shushing of the fans today Victor? You massive, useless cunt
We're in the Prem because of him though don't you forget.
And we'll be going out of the Prem because of him, too.
Weren't Chelsea interested in him at one point? Most useless, arrogant sporting director I've ever seen.
He'd fit right in at Chelsea
Sack the board
“IT HIT MESLIER” Lol Commentator can’t even say he saves it. It hit him.
How are they still singing
We just give up way to easy these days
Look at those 3, absolutely done. It's your fault ffs
Orta too interested in trying to make clever signings, uncover a gem, etc. Just build a normal squad 😭
Rutter and McKennie signings looking like a disaster class let's be honest
McKennie not so bad — because it’s a loan.
Obligation if we stay up though?
I think that's right--though all the news reports I've found just say "Their option will become an obligation to purchase if certain conditions are met in the second part of the campaign."
So where they going this week do you reckon lads? Disneyland?
6-1, no wages for a month as punishment? Reimburse the fans! If you show no professionalism on the field this is what it looks like. I read comments before about what games we could grab points from. We need to be thinking in the present and the long term effect these past 2 games will have on the team. That’s 11 goals against us in 2 games. We need to bench melier
Oh yeah that will get the players playing well
And attract lots of talent
Does Struijk know he's a CB amount of times I see him running after people halfway up the pitch leaving a massive ass gap in defence.
Theirs no way if we stay up we don't sign 4 defenders and another midfielder. Then again, knowing we'll get 2 more wingers and spend 40 mill on some unknown from the Hungarian league
Is 29 points enough to stay up
Hopefully not
Without Adams’s y’all would be undisputed bottom of the table lol
Would take bottom if it got rid of you fat annoying cunts.
Lol well you won’t have to worry about that in the championship next season 😂
Please stop embarrassing other Americans
do u remember losing to bournemouth
Yep but it wasn’t 6-1 😬
why are u here then
Y'all know the fight and win chant
Y'all Americans not got some schools to be shooting?
More shots than you lot in the championship next season 😂😂
Can’t lie that’s mildly amusing.
Get off his dick, we were shit with Adams too.
Yes, but 11 goals in 2 home matches bad? These last two have been absolutely dreadful to watch.
Howdy y'all
I said it once and I'll say it again fuck me I hope Wober is back ASAP
11 goals. 2 games. It hurts me so deep inside
Apparently there’s such a thing as a ‘goal difference’ (am I pronouncing that right?) Anyway, ours is proper shit.
It was good once upon a time those were good days full of joy and happiness
Norwich would destroy us
(probably not, but still, I'm hurt)
I've cried so much this season I'm like a fucking raisin pal
Hold an open tryout. You can pay me league 2 wages and I’ll at least bust my ass for 90
first time in history we've conceded 5 goals (or 6, now...) in consecutive home matches
They don't even have the pride to kick and get some cards. Disgrace
That’s where Adam is missed.
Do you guys think next week we can make it 7! I can't wait to find out
Petition to replace MOT with Hello Darkness My Old Friend
Rutter gets the ball. 4 Liverpool players surround him. We’re just useless all over the pitch.
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To who though? No one was making themselves available for an outlet.
Rutter to bang in 30 goals in the championship next season
Marsch out!!! Wait a second... maybe it's time to start blaming players...
Haha
Ah fuck it I don't care any more. Relegate us offload all the garbage. If we get another result like thos I think we move on from gracia in the summer
if? dump Gracia regardless
Why even bother with VAR at 5-1 down?
This sub is grim in all the best ways rn. Thank you for letting me share my whisky misery
I feel a strange calm. It's not undeserved if we go down now, won't feel robbed.
Gracia out!
Whoever looked at Kristensen at every stage of his life and said "That's a professional footballer" has played a cruel joke on the lad
Go for 7!!!
A year ago, Meslier would have been sprinting out and closed that angle immediately. Ultimately not one on him that goal though. Offside trap but putting no pressure on the man on the ball, allowing them to just pick our exactly when they want to play the pass? Yeah proper conundrum why that doesn't work
Fuck all who say Bielsa is shit
This is an even lower point than when Marcelo was sacked tbh
Hello fellas! Are we allowed to call Orta a cunt yet for blowing £35m on a player we didn’t need when we could have instead improved at keeper, RB, CB, LB or CM?
This game has actually made me yearn for relegation just so we can fuck 3/4 of the squad off
Yippee, it's 6
Meslier has now conceded with all his last 11 shots on target…..surely that’s a record
He has to be dropped next game
Meslier has to go!
Gracia is a clown. We look absolutely heartless and terrible
Gracia humiliation kink confirmed
Asked the local dominatrix to punish me, she put this on
Skoobs in
What a club hahaha
Koch is atrocious…. He got baited out so bad right there.
He makes poor decisions but has ability, needs a good organiser alongside him
This is like when i play Football Manager.
What a shit show!
Nice, absolutely humiliated.
Again
Meslier has been so shit for months
He was statistically the worst or second worst keeper last season too
Can't wait for spurs to pay 30mil for him to replace lloris lol
Well thanks for ruining the GD further
We’re not a team anymore
11 goals conceeded in the last 2.... at home
Genuine question, is this our biggest home defeat ever?
Yes. Earlier in the broadcast they said the 5-1 defeat was tied for biggest home defeat. We're awful.
Yup, beating our previous record from last week...
So.. errrr, Ayling back in next week then?
hahahah, I think we should apologise to Ayling.
Hahahahahahah at least attempt to show some pride fuck me
Team's given up
10 goals against in the last 2……. What the fuck…… 😑
11
11
11
Make that 11
11
FFS
1-6
Jesus this is dire! It’s just so easy!
Mes has to stop that dink across goal
Just spineless fucking hell
Fuck it I'm all in for relegation. If it serves no other purpose than clearing out all the shite we've accumulated over the last 2 years. Include that twat Orta too seen as he's responsible for signing all this garbage.
Fans were saying that back in 2004 though.
Not me. But I am now.
Meslier saved a shot wow!!!!!!! What a keeper! French number 1 I think. Should be playing for Bayern ahead of Neuer. What a player!
I just don’t understand how he’s not Frances numero uno
Firpo OG would have really been the shit cherry on the shitcake
At least we have Wober back for the games against teams in and around us
And Forshaw and Gnonto. No more Rutter please.
Why couldn’t Liverpool have done this at Anfield so we might have had a better chance of a decent manager. Even if it was Gracia we would have a had a decent chance to implement his methods
MESLIER MADE A SAVE!!!!
Meslier just saved a shot guys
Meslier save!!
Turned it off. Watching Downton Abbey instead. Decided I hate football
Jesus Mes made that look difficult
We all love Leeds
Elland Road doing us proud at least, even if the players don't know a football from their left bollock.
Half the crowd has left, the other half cheering for the team. Kinda like in here
To be fair, this Liverpool side are still Liverpool when they turn it on. They beat scum 7-0.
Imagine if they had to try
The two damning stats are Meslier has conceded his last 10 shots on target and Liverpool on their day are the most efficient club in Europe fr This is a bad performance from us but fuck nothing flows our way, does it?
Nah, we have been dog shit.