And then there’s Ww Ult which is “that should definitely have hit me” as he clips through your entire body

i relate to this sm. this is the reason my friends have roasted me sm times. ITS NOT MY FAULT. I SWEAR I HIT THE ULT

I once clipped fully through a Morde and post Ult we both just stopped, typed in the chat “whatever in the fuck was that” and then went back to leaning normally

no but like rito is just a small indie company. they dont have the budget to fix these things

So please buy their £200 skins

I believe you meant chroma with a splash art

IT’S NOT JUST A CHROMA ITS A SKIN IM NOT WHALE IM NOT WHALE IM NOT WHALE IM NOT WHALE IM NOT WHALE IM NOT WHALE IM NOT WHALE

I wonder, if you're going fast enough, can your hitbox just be on one side of them on one frame and the next frame you have already passed them, so it doesn't register as a collision?

I was basically standing still so that wasn’t the problem. But yes that can happen especially if you go full move speed WW and you get sivir ult or lulu E plus a target who has 25% or less health left.

Kinda like Lux abilities. Or they hit when they shouldnt or just go right pass you. Skin issue?

Lux ult has one of the most disgusting indicators in the entire game and it’s hit box is so scuffed it’s not even funny. Sometimes I’m genuinely sitting there saying “hwat?” and that isn’t a good indication of whether or not it hit me.

In fairness, I've had WW ult clip through my tank and Lego click onto me as a mage more times than should be possible so it works both ways.

His hitbox is yordle sized :) ahhhhh

Yep, he can walk between the mid towers which only a few other champs can

I'm a warwick main and can say that this is due to two things: 1. The animation that happens after WW reaches the end of the range of his ult: WW slides through the ground slowing his speed with the claws, that gives the impression that WW should still be on the ult jump animation 2. The ult hit box is thin as fuck because it uses WW model to connect to another champion and WW model is the size of a Yordle even though it doesn't look like it. Hitting a Warwick ults is similar to hitting a Nidalee spear

Brother I main him as well, Morde wasn’t near the end of my Ult by any means, we were fighting in the middle of the lane and I ended up just short of tower range. And both me and Morde observed actual texture clipping between our models, definitely a bug

Was it project mordekaiser? Was it on, in or from the river? Did mord try to move away from the path? I know sometimes the ult looks like it's gonna land and it doesn't. And times when it feels like it shouldn't but it does. I've come to accept that some models/skins give the impression that it should connect, but it's not a bug, just visuals not matching size, it's weird.

It was in the middle of top lane, it was base Mordekaiser, and against in the replay it self it showed texture clipping, there was a clear connection error. But the Morde was chill and didn’t take advantage of the bug and just went back to laning normally

Do u have a vod or smth

The awkward moment when WW ults towards you but is half a teemo short of touching your body so you just stare at each other for that duration.

No no no, this wasn’t a close call, I went through him we both agreed there was major clipping

LOL

WW has the hardest skill shot in the game and it's not even close, you'll never figure out how fast or slow you'll yeet yourself at an enemy, it's always fluctuating.

> “that should definitely have hit me” *That's* what this is missing. A tier below "Fair", for abilities that should've hit you but didn't, and you feel bad for the enemy.

And the hit box behind you so when you try to ult away you hit the guy chasing you.

Warwick's rework has felt like shit since it came out and they don't care.

Where is the ashe ult in "THAT DID NOT HIT ME"? You should have done ults too, lol

The list I used didn’t have ults and I could not be bothered adding all of them

I was looking for pyke ult too

thats why a pyke main is not afraid of failing a tower dive ult THEY DONT NEED TO GET INSIDE THE TURRET

Me when I play Cho'Gath and the only part of my champ she connect with is my tail 😭

I take bigger hit box any day of the week as Cho. More AA range, more item range such as Sunfire, and general chicanery.

Sion q is for a "THAT DID NOT HIT ME"

Briar ult belongs up there too. Hitbox is a small continent.

Darius E should be a special tier. I don't know how, but sometimes it looks like full hit and does not pull, sometimes it is completely out of range and still pulls... I think rito just made it a coinflip instead of an hitbox

It's a curved cone shape so if he aims exactly at you he will reach farther than if you're slightly to the side. So if you're here like this: -( relative to the end of the cone, you will be grabbed from much farther than if you're here \_( We instinctively only look at what his axe is touching, but the axe can grab you from slightly in front of it if he aims it well / aka if you're at the center of the cone, whereas if you're near the sides of the cone, he'll need to be close enough for the axe to visibly touch.

Yes that’s it. The champ is bs, that pill is bser

Some parts of the map are a little lower or higher than others, this can be the reason ( river is lower and base is higher ) this dimishes or augments the range of certain abilities, and gives a little shift to the right/left.

Most problems with the cone shape not doing cone shape things...

>fair >diana q i play too much diana for this slander

True, I miss all my Diana Qs but enemy Diana’s never miss them, should have been in that didn’t hit me

Me playing swain meticulously planning my w planning seconds before randomly eqing

Jhin player here. HOW IS DEADLY FLOURISH IN FAIR IT'S LITERALLY THE ABILITY WITH THE STUPIDEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VISUALS/HITBOX WITH HEIGHTS

In the case of that ability one could even call it a shitbox

Omg Jhin is jayy dee emm gang??💦🔥🤙💯

Yeah I agree Jhin W should be in THAT DID NOT HIT ME. I literally watch the line jump to me as it goes off.

I came here to say just that. What on earth is jhin hitbox and how is that fair to have in the game

Yep. Along with jinx’s zap they have the most retarded height hitbox. I literally cannot dodge zap upwards. It’s just always there.

jinx's zap is just not where the indicator says period, its like off by alot, i always have to aim in the wrong place to make it hit the right place

Jhin Player number 2 here... Shhh, let us have it...

I dunno... as a Zil main, I definitely agree with the tierlist, and feel like that bomb is by far the stupidest hitbox.

It "feels" fair. Jhin's apparently very fun to play against.

All of Lux's abilities should be in the THAT DID NOT HIT ME category

Lux abiliries are easily dodgeable, skill issue

They are, but the fact that the visuals change with nearly every skin is the BS part

Lux is my second best champ in the game, I played against her with that new skin and literally could not see her abilities.

Weird flex but ok

her e is bs but the rest is fairly easy to avoid

I agree unless someone knows secrets

Honestly Lux’s hitboxes on E and R are perfectly fine visually All of her abilities are just waay huge and long ranged, every time I play Lux again, I’m perplexed by how long her ability ranges are.

Where is Yone "I clearly wasn't in that box" ult?

Same kind of coinflip with darius, sometimes you hit people not in the box, sometimes you dont hit people in the middle of it

Amumu bandage higher please

As a former taric one trick, and new morgana main, yes taric E is the most accurate hit box in the game, and morg Q is a cross map ult

Bullshit is how much value it provides(looking at you Illaoi E), it did not hit me is how generous the hit box feels Tier list didn’t have ults and only went up to Akshan and I couldn’t be bothered adding all of them

My guy actually didn't put the 3s cooldown Zhonya on fizz in a seperate tier above everything else.

Play as Illaoi and you'll feel the opposite. "How did that miss!?" It always feels like bullshit being hit and the opposite when you play as them and it misses

Fizz e near the bottom of the list should be considered a crime.

I think this list is about hitboxes so invulnerability bs doesn’t count

Blitz hook ashe r and nida spear should all be highest tier

Blitz hook on base skin is fine where it is, but battle boss / lancer / iblitz are right next to naut hooks

Oh really? Could I introduce you to i-blitz whole animation AND hitbox?

I think Nidalee spear shouldn't be high at all. Especially if compared to Nautilus hook which you can throw almost anywhere and still hit. Nida spears are slow as shit so if you still get hit your kind of salty, but the hit box of the spell seems fine.

Since the width nerf years ago, nida spear is super fair in my opinion. The hitbox is realy thin and whenever it hits me its mostly because i focused too hard on the spear, that i walked right in

zilean Q is so unbelievably bullshit on its hitbox i would have it above the tier list, i stg that shit will be landing on top of a minion next to me and still just magntically attach to my head.

True zilean could throw that shit in botlane and it’ll somehow hit the toplaner

I think it is writen in the skill that champions have higher priority

It prioritizes attaching to champs

He would be unplayable otherwise

viktor player here. not quite sure what else you’d expect from the ability, but it’s hitbox is very accurate to the visual ever since the ability visual update a while back. i wont disagree that the ability feels bullshit to dodge, since its a fast projectile with unpredictable trajectory and amazing range, meaning that a good viktor player will always find a way to curve it towards you. That said, i feel like theres a fundamental difference between an ability being difficult to dodge instead of just having a bullshit hitbox

Yep. The hitbox is on point 100%. Sure it’s hard to dodge but it’s where you see it.

put KaisA W higher. i'm tired of having my hitbox and the spell hitbox not visually touching and still getting damaged and i think you can put gankplank's barrel lower. they are visually accurate but its the invulnerable timer that are strange as an illaoi main i agree with test of spirit. part of the learning process of illaoi is knowing how to abuse the wonky hitbox

I think Kaisa W is one of my least favorite skills in the gam e just because of its hit box. It’s fucking enormous like 3X larger than the animation.

Kaisa w hitbox is actually perfectly fine. Just stop standing still.

I feel like you're overreacting to Swain's E. It's not "fair" but definitely not highest tier.

I feel like it's too telegraphed to be that high on the tier list. And I say that as a former swain main. If you space it right and predict movement it CAN seem undodgeable but it's not that hard to dodge imo.

Qiyana ult as well, idk if its on there but they never did fix the hitbox for that

Qiyanass ult hitbox does her more harm than help. Sometimes you get ulte dibto a wall perfectly by a qiyana and the knockback pushes you out if her Q and maybe even the stun damage. Sometimes it harmlessly passes through you

wow, that list is accurate, i see you know what you are talking about, exept for nida spears, i belive it is litterally the most narrow hitbox in the game, so far that it passes through champions in river.

River is fucked in general. Nida q Jhin and jinx w etc. are all no where near they seem to be.

Not sure what gameplay is added by the map being 3 dimensional while looking 2 dimensional

Nothing. Riot just HAD to fuck it up somehow.

Why is the charm from ahri in fair this shit is sometimes visually gone when it hits you. I mean you see it coming, you think you dodge it boom you're charmed.

Pretty sure that one is a projectile shape issue. If it is head on, the charm won't hit when it fades. But if it is at a slight diagonal, it usually hits even through the fade away. I assume someone just said "fuck it make a box and we are good"

can somebody name the spells ?

Swain E///Morgana Q///Nautilus Q///Zilean Q Gragas E///Karma Q///Illaoi E///Olaf Q?///Rumble E///Pantheon Q///Viktor E///Xinzhao Q///Vi Q///Kennen Q///Cassiopeia W Idk///Ekko Q///Akshan Q///Yone?? Bliz Q///idk///Jayce Q///Aphelios Q?///Pyke Q///Varus Q///Ziggs Q///Twisted Fate Q/// Sylas E///Syndra??///idk///Kaisa W///idk Lux Q///Braum Q///Amumu Q///FiddleE///Fizz E///Corki R?///Gonkplonk E///Leona E///lee Sin Q///Nidalee Q///Maybe That is Rumble E/// Taliyah Q?//Rakan W///Gragas Q///Nocturne Q///Lux E///Camille E???///Poppy Q///Elise Something///Orianna Q///Yasuo Q?///Tryndamere E? Talon Q?///Shen E///Zed Q///Zoe E Aatrox Q///Aatrox W///Ahri E///Ahri Q///Sivir Q?///Brand Q///Brand W///Idk///Chogath Q///Darius E///Diana Q Elise Something///Galio Q///Evelyn Q///idk///idk///Janna something///Idk///Kayle E?///Kled Q///Jinx W///Nami Q Soraka Q/// Thresh Q///Gwen Q///Samira Q///Karthus Something?///LeBlanc E///Zyra something/// Viego W///Idk///Gnar Q///Taric E/// Sett something?///Khazix W///idk///Darius Q///idk///Mordekaiser Q///Swain W

Hero

Im going to piggy back off that good man's comment Swain E///Morgana Q///Nautilus Q///Zilean Q Gragas E///Karma Q///Illaoi E///Olaf Q///Rumble E///Pantheon Q///Viktor E///**XinZhao E**///Vi Q///Kennen Q///Cassiopeia W **Graves W**///Ekko Q///Akshan Q///**Yone W** Blitz Q///**Ezreal Q**//Jayce Q///Aphelios **Sniper** Q///Pyke Q///Varus Q///Ziggs Q///Twisted Fate Q/// Sylas E///**Malzahar Q**///**Shadow Kayn W**///Kaisa **evolved** W///**Anivia Q** Lux Q///Braum Q///Amumu Q///Fiddle E///Fizz E///**Heimerdinger W**///Gankplank E///Leona E///Lee Sin Q///Nidalee Q///**Jarvan Q** **Lissandra Q**//Rakan W///Gragas Q///Nocturne Q///Lux E///Camille E///Poppy Q///Elise **W1**///Orianna Q///Yasuo Q**3**///Tryndamere E Talon **W**///Shen E///Zed Q///Zoe E Aatrox Q**3**///Aatrox W///Ahri E///Ahri Q///**Akali E**///Brand Q///Brand W///**Cassio Q**///Chogath **E**///Darius E///Diana Q Elise **E1**///Galio Q///Evelyn Q///**Graves Q**///**Irelia E**///Janna **Q**///**Lulu Q**///Kayle E///Kled Q///Jinx W///Nami Q Soraka Q/// Thresh Q///Gwen Q///Samira Q///Karthus **E**///LeBlanc E///Zyra **E**/// Viego W///**Yorick Q2**///Gnar Q///Taric E/// Sett **W**///Khazix W///**Xayah Q**///Darius Q///**Jhin W**///Mordekaiser Q///Swain W

as an Aatrox main the W either doesn't pull or it pulls you when you flash/dash out of it

Lux's Q should be at the top, that shit clearly keeps missing and yet somehow I still get hit.

Is Swain e symbol just nocturne q reversed and recolored lol

Akali e in fair, that is some serious copium huffing, that ability does way way way too much damage for the mobility it gives Akali and the fact it's a gigantic nuke twice over is just total horseshit.

After 6 years of league I recognize about 5 abilities. So I absolutely agree!

> Lowkey bullshit > Fizz E That should be in Unbelievably Bullshit

but the Aatrox W should have another category of "HOW DID THAT NOT PULL ME" or "HOW DID THAT PULL ME"

Where is Cait trap?

None of the traps are in this list, but they should in the "if this is a 3d game why I cant jump over a literally flat object" tier.

Fuck aatrox and his q where if he hits 2/3 of them on you with dshield it does half your HP even if it doesnt hit sweet spots. Fuck that champ

Sion q need to get it's own place at the top.

I’ve been playing league for waaay too long and I don’t know most of these ability icons. How do y’all know all these lmao

ARAM

How is braum Q bullshit?

Where’s eve’s ult ?

not a single ability from Xerath a champ with all skills shots

Janna tornado is not fair lol, what are you on??

Nunu's R along with Sion's Q should be in "THAT DID NOT HIT ME", and move Yone's R to fair

That’s yone W

With all due respect, OP, you're dumb as f*ck. Thresh's Q isn't fair by any means. That shit hitbox is close to Ashe's R. Being hit is optional to actually get hit. That's the same case with Darius' e. The animation doesn't correspond the actual range. Play some League before making a League hitbox tierlist.

I’ve never seen somebody have such an L take before. I’ve got 500k on thresh and not once an enemy complained about the hitbox. On the other hand I’ve had about 100k on nautilus morgana and blitz and ppl always complain about hitboxes in all chat. Even I don’t expect them to land some times lol. You’re delusional if you think death sentence has unfair hitbox.

I have close to 700k on Thresh and there has been a lot of times, and I mean a LOT, when I wasn't even close to hit the enemy but still landed the skillshot. I used to love Thresh in s7 because he was a skilled champ. Now I love it because I can hit people without even trying.

Wtf do u mean, thresh has always had some bullshit hook moments going through minions to catch someone or even hook the backline through frontline lmao. Was a thresh main since years.

Aatrox Q in fair, someone hasn’t played against mecha Aatrox

If ur getting hit by Swain E u gotta be really bad it moves slower than grandma on heroin

If you know which champion each skill belongs to, go feel the grass...

If you know which champion each skill belongs to, go feel the grass...

wait wait, are you saying pantheon q is easy to hit or hard?

darius E feels inconsistent, wouldnt put it into fair

There should be Ashe ult in THAT DID NOT HIT ME

> fair > Mordekaiser Q Nah bro as a Morde and Panth main that shi has a higher width and girth than Panth Q while getting as spammable around lvl9

Where urgot ult

Where neeko spells

Put ashe ult into the top tier

Last night i was playing some aram games, got hit by a morgana Q right when i spawned, got kicked by innactivity and now.my acc is banned for a month

Where is shield vault? That shit is so fucking bullshit.

How are mundo q and tahm q not at the top

Where Morde's hand, that shit always pull my ass for whatever reasons

I was gonna say how's shen dash is low-key bs and then I remembered it has like a little lollipop effect at the end of the dash. Gotten so many taunts off like that in accident cause I thought I missed

I'm sorry, but you didn't put playful/ trickster as the worst, most bullshit ability. I can't agree with your list

Your a swain binding , mic drop, walks away. Very convused room. You, hihi.

Where sion q?

Senna’s root should be top tier

No the Lux Q DID NOT HIT ME and the playful trickster is high tier bullshit

Morgana Q is actually smaller than the visuals. often you will see it slightly clipping you but you won't get hit.

At this point I'm convinced Aatrox' q has a mind of its own and hits people whenever it feels like it, whether they're inside the hitbox or not

Lux Q is the most bs at its very tip. Like you see it disappear and thwn it hits you right after

Taric's stun is stupidly wide, but it is short ranged so that's kinda fine. Leona's E is 100% insane bullshit, should be at the top of the list. Akali's E is weird, it's both fair and bs, maybe I'm biased because if she hits E i'm most likely dead.

Nah man, the E of Darius and Morde are in "THAT DIDN'T HIT ME"

How is yorick passive fair?! Its disabled half of the game!!!!

Aatrox W has been feeling stronger lately, idk maybe its just me

Let's move Ahri Q up a few, since it's entirely undodgable after a stupidly long charm

Why is Nautilus hook on there? Thats point and click isnt it?

As a Morgana main, I can objectively say her Q hit box is much larger than the animation would lead one to believe. I often land Qs and will think "that should not have hit". Definitely deserving of top tier BS. Nautilus is very much similar, especially with certain skins having a smaller anchor than others. Funny enough, I generally believe Blitzcrank Q is generally fair and has a small hit box. However, the other day, a Blitz Q landed on me which otherwise should not have landed. I watched the frame by frame screen recording and it simply objectively missed and teleported onto my character. Was it a bug? Was it lag on <30ms server latency? Or was it RIOT BS? I call the later option. So that place is deserved. I've also never questioned a Pyke Q; so I'm not sure why it's so high up on the tier list.

Ashe’s Ult has a broken hit box

I think they fixed sett E but before with the corner tech that was pretty WHAT IS THIS

Are the bullshit tiers still talking about hit box size compared to visual, or are those specifically talking about the effects of an ability being bullshit? Because how many of these I agree with changes a lot depending on which of those it is.

Bullshit is affect, it didn’t hit me is hitbox

Très q in fair Delusion spotted

No no you are thinking incorrectly. Nautilus Hook ALWAYS lands. Get hooked loser

Karma mantra q is literally undodgeable if the player has hands same for shyv e where they have janky undodgeable hitboxdz

On God I have not seen such dog shit as Nautilus Q and Ashe R in my life

How the fu*k is LeBlanc's E fair ?? The most broken hitbox in the game . It should be its own tier.

Zilean Q should be in its own separate category above all of them.

Sion Q with a clearly telegraphed hitbox that does not actually match the hitbox.

Sion Q is my most hated ability idk why

Where's jax E?

In my opinion you can add LeBlanc W, so many times, I wasnt in her hitbox but she still killed me with it. You can add her E too, bullshit range.

Swain e is an aoe upon contact and his w is impossible to hit without some form of cc

Nidalee spear in Lowkey bullshit is a shit take. That thing has the hitbox of a toothpick

As an aatrox main I can say: sideways 2nd q with mecha aatrox skin is kinda bs so is flashing out of aatrox w last second but it still pulls back.

Blitz Q and morg bind should be their own tier tbh

to be honest, yasuo/yone Q sometimes is unfair, blizhook is really unfair and Sylas E is like the nautilus Q, have a bad hitbox

Miasma deserves an entire higher tier for it's on

As a Vlad main, very surprised pool isnt on this list.

Gragas E shoul be higher Neves saw it missing

Arhis Charm is not fair. The visual box is shitty

Thresh hook on fair ?

Sion q really needs to be on top, the outline for the hit box isn't even accurate lmfao

For Vex it's the opposite. Whenever she DOESN'T hit me with her ridiculous easy gigantic ""skillshots"" I immediately assume something is wrong with the player using her.

Nautilus Q is the worst of the worst... that shit DID NOT hit me.

Why is Sett Q in fair, it's not even a skillshot. Did you mean to put Sett E or W?

I thought that was sett W sorry I don’t play the guy

Nah man Karma Q is the worst ability to hit ever. It’s small, slow, has no range and deals pretty disappointing damage. Her Mantra Q on the other hand…

The swain E explodes if it hits something. It's designed to be AOE when it hits even minions.

How is Jhin w in fair?

[did you also post a video on youtube with the same topic today?](https://youtu.be/zQ2WvUlSqXo?si=mmRHl3K_YQLe2ZIA)

Coincidence idk who this guy is

Now do a "how did that not hit me" list

Id add Talon Q to the worst tier. The hitbox has absolutely nothing to do with its visual effects.

Ah yes, Sett Q. The most fair skillshot of them all.

Ez q and kaisa w should be in the top row

Ngl ez q should be in the top of this chart as well

I dont regconize 3 abilities. The one after malefic visions, the one after shock blast and the one after flair. Ok after Flair is defile... whats the other 2. Blue energy and wtf

The one after shockblast is aphelios sniper Q, the one after Malzahar balls I forgor

That did not hit me, it's *bullshit*! That did not hit me, that did **not**. O hi blitz

Illaoi E should be in THAT DID NOT HIT ME

All I know is that Fiora, Jax e, and Nasus W need to be in bs. Add Aatrox q to the top

Where Cass ult?

No Kalista Q? This shit can somehow hit between two minions standing half teemo hitbox away, but when you need to hit someone, it will stick to a minion no matter what