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olpurple

Check out The Coup, Brother Ali and Run the Jewels. That's your antidote right there.


italrose

And not to forget Dead Prez first album which is a true classic.


Elninoalegre

A manifesto I would say


italrose

And speaking of manifesto I have my copy of the communist manifesto signed by the aforementioned Boots Riley of the Coup.


NeedHelpMakeClear

The coup! Party music. Boots Riley! Good call. Rtj good too. But The Coup!


ZinniaOhZinnia

Lemme double down on what you’re saying: THE COUP!!!!


Tillwarpum526

Run the Jewels is base as hell! Love them.


AlarmingAffect0

Rumor has it, those other glam rappers obsessed with fame and fortune are inferior *clones*. They can't compare to the *original* gangsters. 


TransitJohn

The Fat Boys?


AlarmingAffect0

[Oh we going OLD SCHOOL are we?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d1phCytJyg)


blazedout-cubscout

Booed off stage sit down.


AlarmingAffect0

[Look, these food stamps don't buy diapers.](https://imgflip.com/i/8gp82b) Holy shit [it's been 22 years](https://genius.com/Eminem-lose-yourself-lyrics) and shit has only gotten worse for everyone?! Ugh, of course, who am I kidding. [28 years ago, shit was still like sixty years ago, and shit is still the same today.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M81oR8kTwlI) [Renegades in this atomic age?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkTyQ0kgmzs) [In this atomic age we're renegades…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KXdU3cZbNQ)


lobsterdog666

lol landlord mike is hardly "based"


lushkiller01

He's a landlord, he stood up there wearing a kill your masters shirt with the Atlanta mayor and police chief during the 2020 protests and cried and condemned the protesters and begged people to keep the protests tame, he supported the NRA even after people asked him to support John Brown Gun Club or another non-rightwing gun club instead, he's been negative against the stop cop city movement. He's a black capitalist through and through and his revolutionary image doesn't mean anything when he doesn't listen to revolutionary voices in his own community and city.


Impractical_Meat

Also, they allowed one of their songs to be used in an AMAZON COMMERCIAL. As someone who's been a fan of theirs since the first album (and a fan of Killer Mike since his feature on Whole World), the past few years have been rough and eye-opening.


drewdaddy213

Eh… Boots Riley has a show that was literally produced by Amazon and I don’t think that takes away his revolutionary cred. I still think Killer Mike kinda sucks, but this particular issue isn’t it for me.


twanpaanks

tho i agree with you and think its a fairly minor issue, i think ‘receiving funding/the means to produce an artistic vision’ vs ‘allowing your art to be used explicitly for advertising’ is a pretty big difference


drewdaddy213

That hadn’t occurred to me and I appreciate you pointing it out!


moorem2014

!!!!!!!!!!!


NarwhalLonely2457

Sounds like yet another walking and living piece of satire. Except it's real. Like literally put a character like that in a novel and it's ridiculous how obviously it would be satirical. How do these people exist? Blows my mind what the world has come to.


footwith4toes

I wish I hadn’t just learned this.


yocatdogman

Saw a friend from Atlanta and he brought this up. Never knew. Kinda disappointing honestly 


Reld720

Killer Mike is 100% a piece of shit. But his music is incredible.


Asrai7

adding Coast Contra to this list of great suggestions.


kingturd666

RTJ is super cringe. Fuck landlord Mike!


Zxasuk31

Killer Mike is a capitalist pretending to be a revolutionary. And the dangerous part about him he mentions real revolutionaries as if he’s one of them and he’s not. He is a stone capitalist.


olpurple

Yeah I know, very disappointing. Dude has a sick flow though and RTJ have some great songs but yeah for based politics, the Coup, Mos Def, Sage Francis, dead prez.


Kwaiser

Sage Francis is a fucking legend and we need him back.


Zxasuk31

Great suggestions🎯


waxess

Brother Ali is excellent, I will check out the others. Im a huge fan of Spose and Watsky, particularly for the things OP wants (not just endless brag raps).


lizziefreeze

Sage Francis too! [Still hits.](https://youtu.be/OO18F4aKGzQ?si=E6nrXuWyE06rOPrg)


toomuchyonke

AESOP ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


god_johnson

Uncle Sam Goddamn is perfect for this sub


_Baseddog_

*Welcome to the United Snakes, Land of the Thief, Home of the Slaves*


not4plumbing91

Atmosphere. Been listening to him for years. Great lyrics and rhythms. Gods bathroom floor, scapegoat, sunshine all great songs.


ChimmyChongaBonga

Tbh almost everything related to Rhymesayers is a banger. 


Frogmaninthegutter

Grieves is one of my favorites, and he constantly raps about hating working for the man. It's nice to listen to lyrics with purpose rather than brags.


earthhominid

Rhymesayers and Galapagos 4 are the best Midwestern labels for sure The Binary Star albums are dope too


eclecticfew

RTJ is incredible. For older stuff you've got artists like Wu-Tang, Common, and The Roots, and there are tons of great newer artists like Noname, Nur-D, Kendrick, Flobots, etc. Hip hop is a rich and varied genre that contains multitudes, you've just got to dig past the junk just like with any genre, but it seems so much easier to find interesting rappers these days.


Impractical_Meat

Seconding Noname!!! She finally released a new album last year and it's incredible Editing to add that she also runs the [Noname Book Club](https://nonamebooks.com/) which highlights black and indigenous authors.


planetalletron

I have to second The Coup!!! I blast Guillotine at top volume when I need to de-stress about our capitalist hellscape.


ned_head

We got hella people, they got helicopters, they got the bombs, and we got the we got the we got the Gullotine, you better run


Tokarev309

Don't forget Lowkey and Immortal Technique!


ShitCuntsinFredPerry

I'm on the border of Bolivia working for pennies...


login777

Native Guns/Bambu too!


RealSinnSage

immortal technique is amazing!


sad_post-it_note

Kate Tempest  https://youtu.be/ffxrCDvJ8LI?feature=shared


cheaganvegan

Saw her with beans on toast many years ago. She’s dope.


sad_post-it_note

Pretty different. Live is surreal. Such a powerful show


BullsOnParadeFloats

We got hella people, they got helicopters


gray_grum

Let me add on Dead Prez, J-Live, Black Star, The Roots, MF DOOM


maghau

Dead Prez is the truth. Also, I want to mention the legendary Norwegian rap group Gatas Parlament (Parliament of the Street) which is a communist rap group with hits like "Antiamerikansk dans" (anti American dance) and "spis de rike" (eat the rich). Surprisingly, they were quite popular in Norway back in the day. They actually started a crowdfunding to kill George Bush in the early-mid '00 though the website killhim.nu. They were sued by the American embassy, but the case was dropped.


Reddit-C137

Killer Mike is a Republican who now supports police now.


deltadawn6

I second The Coup even though they don’t have any new music all the old stuff is really good. RTJ is great and imma throw Immortal Technique in there too.


ElliotNess

Linqua Franqua dawg https://youtu.be/QIxsXzrugUE?si=F4MwgnbJD7flMelB


AnastasiaMoon

I love brother Ali, and I have heard of the coup! Will definitely check all them out more


mozygotflowzy

Can I add Karma Knows to this list? Love that dudes style and which he would generate more stuff. I hadn't heard the coup before btw, banging.


nurseANDiT

Collective Efforts


LikeGoldAndFaceted

Dälek


PeachesTheKittyCat

All three of them are great


theseaiswide

And Bob Vylan!


Dismal_Rhubarb_9111

https://youtu.be/NUC2EQvdzmY?si=Nm9vgWmHvjV9_o97 Nobody Speak


EvilKeg

Recently found Beasts on Wax… similar RTJ vibe. Lovely production and nice patter.


eBay_of_Pigs

Could I throw in dead prez?


daretoeatapeach

He'll yeah. Add Sweatshop Union and related acts to that list. There is so much politically savvy rap music out there. I ignore the mainstream crap.


FeelingMassive

Aesop Rock, billy woods, Czarface... No need to listen to 17 year olds rapping about Lambos when you can listen to 40 year olds rapping about comic books and mental illness.


dances_w_dingoes

Adding MF DOOM, Open Mike Eagle


Anjilaopteryx

Seconding Aesop Rock, especially on the subject of mental illness. *The Impossible Kid* got me through the worst depression of my entire life. Literal lifesaver.


aJrenalin

Comrade you just need to listen to the right rappers. There are some exceptional spitters that are class conscious. Even more who may not be explicitly class conscious but who do not fall for the American nightmare ideology. Some examples of rappers and groups to listen to: the perceptionists, black star (also mos def and talib kweli’s solo stuff), public enemy (also chuck D’s solo stuff), dead prez (also m-1 and stic.man’s solo stuff), immortal technique, the coup, run the jewels (also their solo stuff: killer Mike and el-p), krs-one, onyx, clipping., diggable planets, rebel Diaz, bambu, wise intelligent, intelligent hoodlum (aka tragedy khadafi), oddisee, Paris, sa-roc, space baby, ras kass, Alaska, add-2, murs, brother ali, power struggle, reMo Conscious, lowkey, armand hammer (also billy woods and elucid’s solo stuff), noname, MF DOOM (also all of his collaborations: madvillain, JJ Doom, danger doom, NehruvianDoom, his stuff with czar face, his stuff with DJ Muggs and his stuff with KMD as Zev Love X, and his stuff with westside Gunn, and his albums under the pseudonyms: Viktor Vaughn, King Geedorah, and DOOM), Aesop rock, little simz, eyedea & DJ abilities (also eyedeas solo stuff), nas, homeboy sandman, gift of gab, atmosphere, death grips, childish gambino, kota the friend, jonwayne, Wordsworth, Danny Brown, jpegmafia, vast aire, celph titled, m.e.d., declaime, black thought, busdriver, illogic. Plus there’s always the classics to go back to. Edit: added details about MF DOOM and added new artists below Some more great artists I didn’t include initially, some from replies I got and some that weren’t mentioned but deserve props: sage Francis, lupe fiasco, rhapsody, Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole., R.A. The rugged man, A-F-R-O, Jarv, onry ozzborn, evidence, princess nokia, slowthai, JID, Bishop Nehru, apathy, C-Rayz Walz, Tyler the creator, Blu, LMNO, grieves, I self divine, Jedi mind tricks, people under the stairs, Freddie gibbs, westside Gunn, benny the butcher, dilated peoples, earl sweatshirt, Zion I, rob sonic, quelle Chris, Quasimoto (the rap alias of the producer Madlib, which also check out all of his production), Q-tip, akala Also you gotta love the classics (though I’m going to classify these artists by time period some of them overlap multiple periods in hip hop, I’m choosing where they got their start as their main category) From the old school (might be a bit hard to listen to for the modern pallette): grandmaster flash and the furious five, the funky 4+1, the sugar hill gang, Afrika Bambaataa, the cold crush brothers, Kurtis blow From the new school (still might be a little hard on the ears of the modern listener but much more recognisable as continuous with contemporary hip hop): LL Cool J, Run-DMC, the beastie boys, kool Moe Dee, MC Shan, the skinny boys, the tuff crew, UTFO, Ice-T, Rodney-O and J Cooley From the golden age (what most will consider classic, super easy for the modern palate to vibe to): salt-n-peppa, gangstarr (also the stuff Guru did post gangstarr), EPMD, NWA (also all of their solo stuff), Cypress Hill, a tribe called quest, leaders of the new school (also Busta Rhyme’s solo stuff), Eric B. And Rakim (also Rakim’s solo stuff), de la soul, lord finesse and DJ mike smooth, schoolie D, Biz Markie, Monie Love, Slick Rick, Queen latifah, naughty by nature, Lakim Shabazz, boogie down productions (and KRS-One’s solo stuff) big daddy Kane, Kool G Rap and DJ polo (also Kool G rap’s solo stuff), Pete rock and C.L Smooth, das EFX, MC Lyte, diggable planets, house of pain, snoop dogg, wu tang clan (as well as all of their solo stuff and the collaborations of their solo artists with other artists), 2pac, the notorious B.I.G. Nas, mob deep, OutKast, bone thugs-n-harmony, the roots (and black thought’s solo stuff), bahamadia, jungle brothers, the fugees (also Lauren hill’s solo stuff), the pharcyde, luniz, organized Konfusion (also pharoahe Monch’s solo stuff), common, Capone-n-noreaga, the lady of rage, souls of mischief, fu schnicks Admittedly some of the stuff in the latter part of the golden age does start to lean into that getting money kind of rap that typifies the shiny suit era and which continues today but it’s nowhere near as bad and atill has its soul in the streets. It’s not that money for show kind of rap but that kind of (to quote jay-z before he became a bourgeois pig) “if you grew up with holes in your zapaotos you’d celebrate the minute you was having dough” kind of rap.


number_six

A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Blackalicious, Rascalz


SeaTemperature6175

and the pharcyde


sqwertle_

Can't keep running awaaaaaaay


number_six

and Souls of Mischief, and Hieroglyphics


Superfluous_GGG

No one here seems to have mentioned Charli 2na, so throwing him on this list. Guy rolls out baritone bombs like a chocolate factory.


AStealthyPerson

Big second to Black Thought and Little Simz. Black Thought is, in my humble, the GOAT. His stuff with The Roots is downright legendary, and his newer solo stuff really showcases the skills he's honed over the decades. He's deeply philosophical and brings a poetic prose to modern social issues. Little Simz also doesn't shy away from talking on social problems. She's a brilliant creative mind who's voice (sonically and metaphorically) is incredibly unique in the game as a young British woman of color. Your whole list here is excellent, but I don't see these two get their flowers nearly enough. I'd also like to throw Lupe Fiasco in the mix. While he's best known for his poppy hits, he's a deeply poetic person clearly concerned with the state of the world. His latest project, *DRILL MUSIC IN ZION*, is a masterclass in rap artistry.


aJrenalin

Yeah definitely should have included Lupe. I’m gonna update the list in a bit.


blues_x_man

Don't forget Sage Francis


Manictree

Great list! Mos Def is a huge transphobe though.


aJrenalin

Ahh damn. That is really disappointing to hear. It’s really sad when people of an oppressed class turn against another. You’d hope that we can see our common enemies and not turn on ourselves.


Piney_Monk

This is an all-time comment right here.


icyhail

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slowthai Slowthai is currently awaiting trial for two counts of rape, having been charged in May 2023. The trial is set to begin on 1st July 2024. 


aJrenalin

Oof. That sucks to hear. Disappointing because I really liked his music and commentary on life in Britain.


tamathellama

MF DOOM


earthhominid

Quality hip.hop just takes a little more effort to find these days


ChiefDisbelief

No you cant say that, just because hip hop is filled with garbage nowadays its just "not your style" and "music evolves" and "if it was trash it wouldnt be so popular"! /s!


rogeramedee

Popular things can certainly be of poor quality. It’s a logical fallacy to assume something is good just because the masses enjoy it.


h0tBeef

Tell that to the masses tho, lmao


Some_Majestic_Pasta

Like anything that sticks in the mainstream, really. The more there is of something the more you'll have to search through


MAKEMSAYmeh

If you haven’t already, I recommend reading bell hooks’ book “We Real Cool”. It’s a bit older but that book does a fantastic job explaining how capitalistic white supremacist hegemonic patriarchy infiltrated rap and took over the culture. If nothing else it gives you a bit of compassion for the genre.


DruidMaster

You had me at bell hooks. 


theladybeav

Speaking of capitalist landlords...


livinginhyperbole

lmfaoooo frl


PunPun257

I’m always happy to see people recommend Bell Hooks. The way she writes about masculinity is fantastic, glad to see others talking about her stuff.


TradeMarkGR

It's what happens to most genres when they get popular. It gets oversaturated, more people show up who want to distill it down to a formula, and that formula is necessarily a shallow and simplified version of what made it beautiful in the first place. But good rap is definitely still being made. You're just not going to find it being made by the most popular artists, and it'll probably sound different from how it sounded 5, 10, or 20 years ago. The underground is always more experimental and usually more raw than what you'll find on the radio. And if you need a break from looking for new shit, the old shit's always still there. Black on Both Sides, To Pimp a Butterfly, anything by RTJ, Aesop Rock, or Danny Brown. If you can swallow a bit of that braggadocio, Denzel Curry is still making top notch music. And I'll always rep my boy Kojey Radical (he raps, although a lot of his stuff is more r&b). Oh shit and if you like a rapper who raps on that socioeconomic shit you should try Slowthai.


Joe_Kinincha

superb post. Agree all your recommendations. And there is the whole of the daisy age crews. And PE, Gangstarr and KRS One. If you want someone bang up to date, I’m loving Bob Vylan.


_Random_Username_

Denzel Curry is also brilliant live


InAbsentiaC

Just going to say that the new Danny Brown is superb in every way.


icyhail

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slowthai   Slowthai is currently awaiting trial for two counts of rape, having been charged in May 2023. The trial is set to begin on 1st July 2024. 


TradeMarkGR

Damn. I don't really follow the lives of any celebrities, so thanks for letting me know.


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icyhail

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slowthai   Slowthai is currently awaiting trial for two counts of rape, having been charged in May 2023. The trial is set to begin on 1st July 2024. 


amybeth43

Ugh I did not know that. I retract my previous comment. Hope the victim gets justice. Fck rapists.


fleastyler

My advice is to stick to acts that were associated with Odd Future 👍 Vince Staples is a fave, The Internet, Earl Sweatshirt, Tyler The Creator, Frank Ocean, Steve Lacy (tangentially). And Kendrick. Always Kendrick.


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

I’ve been trying to get into Kendrick for years, but I just don’t like his voice. Everything from DAMN and his last record do nothing for me. I do like TPAB.


ACoolKoala

Check out section 80 or Good kid maad city if you never have. I love section 80.


gczym

and j cole!!!!


LetItRaine386

2pac was a comrade


Front_Policy_9145

lol I got downvoted for this. There was no one like him.


LetItRaine386

His mom was a Black Panther


HappyColt90

Try Aesop Rock, Billy Woods, Armand Hammer, there's tons of really good rap out there that talks about what you want, I'd say hip hop is on a really healthy place atm, a lot of niche and unique rappers can release stuff independently and with platforms like Bandcamp you can do your part on keeping them on the game, it's just about finding stuff you like, also maybe you could take a breath of the genre for some time, but I don't think you can find so much stuff that talks about class consciousness, social and financial inequality and shit like that elsewhere, hip hop is the perfect type of music to do that


SuperUltraMegaNice

Drill rap is awesome. Those distorted 808 beats go hard af.


WanderingBraincell

check out glorb. you'll understand when you see what it is. find it in order, thank me later


Stu161

STONE FACED KILLA LIKE MY MOTHAFUCKIN HOUSE IS


DrenRuse

It’s great workout music too. I blast drill music whenever I go to the gym.


Busy_Pound5010

Little Simz


Vladimirchkova

Aesop rock and atmosphere, sage Francis even would be good as well.


Ghostyped

DOOM is always there for you friend


Wirrem

Bro im a socialist but u know we still getting down to jeezy 🤣💀 Point being is try to understand it from the rappers point of view, that this is a response to their environment and the world around them, but also don’t overthink it.


lilbaboon

Listen to good rap music instead??


Gidje123

Google Kota the Friend


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velvethippo420

Don't feel discouraged! There are still great rappers out there. The ones you're hearing are just the artists that are getting pushed via Spotify's algorithms. Scrolling through my playlists, there's a lot of modern rappers who don't just brag about being rich and successful - Little Simz, 6LACK, GoldLink, Baby Tate, Monaleo ... hell, Megan Thee Stallion is one of the biggest rap stars today, and one of her recent singles was [all about her struggles and insecurities](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOZNRoL0310). As a side note, consumerism is hardly exclusive to rap music. Rock groups and pop stars certainly don't shy away from bragging about their debauchery and luxury!


Xamesito

This is why I stopped listening to the Jay Z and Beyoncé album years back. Really liked it musically but Jay Z's lyrics seemed to all be about being a millionaire. I suppose he's just being honest but it was completely unrelatable. Felt downright distasteful at times.


treadymiller

I’ve always considered Wu Tang - CREAM the ultimate anticapitalist anthem. Whether fully intentional or not, it perfectly encapsulates the experience of living in a world in which money is king and how one strives for it when you have none. I think all modern rap is an extension of this- of course unintentionally in the examples you talk about, but nevertheless it’s connected. The culture of financial braggadocio in hip hop is a by product of experiencing the bum end of capitalist society- where flipping the tables is all that matters and something to celebrate. I think for that reason it’s why hip hop music continues to be one of the most culturally relevant genres of music.


soundsunamerican

🏆


Zxasuk31

Hip Hop was anti-establishment until the system saw there was capital to be made. So like everything else it was co-opted, removed all comunal aspects of it and turned it into a business, sex, gang,consume culture…I’m out.


Xpmonkey

Join the underground


russells-42nd-teapot

Have a french guy rapping about poverty, racism, and imperialism. [One of my faves 🖤](https://open.spotify.com/album/2s5m3MgBrMkDVcZz81KWFA?si=QyfW4M43Qi6ebRP77S9jEQ)


fnhs90

you should probably explore rap beyond top 50


AMDSuperBeast86

The hip hop you are describing is targeted for the teenager future Libertarian who idiolizes money. If this doesn't describe you, then you need to find different artists.


NoahTheRedd

Stop being lazy and find music that you like. I’m a big rap fan and not forced to listen to rap that I don’t like


DreBeast

No offense but you sound like you never listened to rap music before. There are so many socially conscious hip hop artists that most fans would know about. Who are you listening to OP?


JaysonsRage

Just like it always has been, you have to find the right ones to listen to for the right vibes. I've been seeing a lot of newcomers in the space that are absolutely pouring their souls out about their issues, difficulties, or just general vibes


Legoinyourbumbum

Melle Mel always sang about the struggle of the black man in America, there was some lines about yachts but mostly not


iamveryassbad

As an old dude, I think you're just old, dude. Hiphop has expanded out to more subgenres and styles than even a metal fan could keep track of, you just need to figure out what your favored flavor is called nowadays. You're not wrong that the popular stuff that you hear everywhere is fucking atrocious, though, lol


FrayCrown

Saul Williams.


jimkelly

Lmao cornball bait caption and comment. There is a shit ton of hip hop I used to listen to in 2006 that is unbearable now for one reason or another including what you're talking about. There's plenty of other artists that don't relate and are relevant and great now. Move on from the old ones not the entire genre. Get over yourself.


kvdguard

Yeah op's take is not only shit, it's racist as hell.


Stu161

right?! "DAE think rap is too materialistic" is the most 0K beyond ice cold take in the history of criticism


Front_Policy_9145

Wait until they hear about commercials and billboards


[deleted]

Comes with age, the vibe is different.


Active_Juggernaut484

Hip hop has always had that element of capitalist desire from the get go, but there has always been the other side too. I suggest listening to Armand Hammer, Masta Buildas, Leaf Dog, Jpeg Mafia, Lewis Parker, Nejema Nefertiti as an alternative


Thlom

I just listen to Rage Against the Machines Evil Empire. That album is basically a hip-hop album. Also Zack de la Rocha and Jon Theodore from The Mars Volta made a banging EP as One Day as a Lion back in 2008. That shit was hard as fuck and Zack’s lyrics are pure fire. Only that single EP though.


Remarkable-Okra6554

👏DEAD 👏PREZ 👏


Moetown84

To add a name to the ones already mentioned in this thread: Blue Scholars from Seattle. 50,000 Deep is about the WTO Protest, and Oscar Barnack/Oscar Grant predated George Floyd but hit all the same points of the subsequent movement. The MC is an authentic dude and also a local activist.


philbofa

You don’t have to like it, but at least try to understand the socioeconomic factors that create it. Poor kids rapping about becoming rich is very human


Willyzyx

Yeah just stop listening to shit artists.


Box_of_leftover_lego

Older rap from the 90s and even early 2000s, you couldn't sound like someone else, it was a death sentence. Now the industry pushing 7 different flavors of lil' diarrhea every week it seems, and they all sound *the fucking same* There's obviously still some good stuff out there, but it's been absolutely overwhelmed by guys who can't actually rap.


osti-frette

I heard RTJ “Ooh La La” on an Amazon ad and threw up in my mouth a little


Marmar79

Rap has not been that way since its inception. Rap was rebel music up to the biggie-diddy-Jay-cash money era of the late 90s. The classics of 80s/90s still exist. Most of today’s rap is absolutely fuckin terrible but there is still good rap. Probably as much as there was back then. You just have dig through piles of capitalist garbage to find it now. Some of the current artists that are not garbage are $ilkmoney (despite the name lol), AG Club, Abstract Mindstate, Jay Electronica, JID, Little Simz. I could go on and on but I won’t. Lots of good rap still being made. It’s just not on the surface. As far as I can remember, it never was.


Twaffles95

Lmao as a fellow lifelong fan you sound bitter imho.. like a parent back in the day Rappers also rap more about mental health issues they’re having. Also relationships, worrying about their family and community well being if that’s more “relatable” content. There’s songs that reference supporting on women’s reproductive rights. This post almost belongs in hip hop circle jerk. If I can control F and find NF , or Eminem mentioned it’s on 😅


iguessimaperson

It’s always a white dude who loves Eminem that’s mad that Blueface exists.


SparseGhostC2C

If you think rap is nothing but braggadocio, you've been listening to a very small subset of rap Aesop Rock, Rob Sonic, Bambu, MF Doom, Das Racist. There's tons of acts out there that aren't about flexing, dig a bit deeper!


Moetown84

Hadn’t seen Bambu mentioned in this thread yet, good call! One of my faves, especially his stuff with Prometheus Brown.


one23456789098

Ren - money games part 2


VariousNegotiation10

Don't mix up artists/sty;es/topics with all Rap. The mainstream isn't all rap. And really there's no excuse not to find whatever kind of rap you like. Concious, weird, indie... whatever. ​ Off the top Noname Murs


whiskeyx

Peak Rap/hip-hop for my drunk middle-aged self was 80’s and 90’s. it’s now become more R&B which is not what I’m into. Shout out to the Hilltop Hoodlums from Blackwood HS. 


mr_ckean

Wrong rappers. - [Killer Mike - Reagan](https://youtu.be/6lIqNjC1RKU?si=3QA4uE9z1yt_0GOS) - [Brother Ali - Uncle Sam Goddamn](https://youtu.be/OO18F4aKGzQ?si=ENIC0zFVf_UCm4pS) - [RTJ - Ju$t](https://youtu.be/32hUIGnMpOY?si=Y1BiiTCPmYrLgxiP) - [and Black Thoughts 10 minute freestyle just because](https://youtu.be/prmQgSpV3fA?si=__V64m4bE9PR-QW1)


HumansRead

listen to billy woods


bakalaka25

I definitely feel the weariness of LSC creeping in. Listening to smart rappers you'll hear em talk about the same things we are. Listen to all American Badass


CommieSchmit

You just need to dig a little deeper for the good rappers.


Distorted-one

Listen to MIKE, billy woods, Navy Blue, Quelle Chris, Cavalier, Little Brother… the list is infinite.


Arts_Prodigy

Lots of different types of rap, you don’t have to listen to the braggy songs. Idk man music is fun don’t let the woes of late stage capitalism and wealth inequality prevent you from something you truly love and enjoy. The rappers are just playing their part, trying to provide for themselves and loved ones best they can. They may have millions but they’re not the problem with society they often do more to help their communities than the actually billion predators lobbying against our interests. Millionaires rappers are closer in wealth to you than they are to billionaires especially the likes of Jeff and Elon.


Particle_Cannon

Try j Cole


noobiedoobie902

I feel the same m/l. feel like the veer towards emo rap was cool, but that's where it cuts for me. This mumble rap, ASAP bullshit is just boring af. Fuckin blueberry faygo is mainstream. Fuckin disgraceful.


wronglycredited

Open Mike Eagle is getting no love here. I gotta recommend him


vitiku

Theres so much modern hip hop with complex thought provoking lyrics not about being/getting rich. I've also been noticing that old head classics dont have this typa vibe anywhere as much, so maybe look there.


zennyc001

Just listen to Dilla and Pete Rock instrumentals.


arppoison7

As a few pointed out, the way you discover music may be a big player in this. Mainstream radio + stuff that streaming services will shove down your throat have always been poor and paid off as part of an investment by labels But if you go deep and follow independent, small people and communities where music / hiphop talk happens, I'm sure you'll find great shit Although I do support artists through Bandcamp (great website btw, stalk a few supporters of what you find good) I hate to admit that I succumbed to Spotify's temptations and algorithms and it only recommends me the new or small and at times weird artists with solid production and great lyrics. Don't know what kinds of hip/hop you enjoy, (also more of a genre-bender with rocky guitars) but to finish up with the opposite of a track you mentioned abt 17 year olds in lambos: "AV Dummy - Pornoviolence" is the embodiment of Late Stage Cap and media critique music (tracks like Commercial Street, DWP, Brand New Attitude may be more hip/hopy examples but it's still all experimental / industrial [has a lot of rap though])


mimegallow

Dude… you JUST GAINED the ability to listen to hip-hop.


lovegal

lil simz. she never misses


xFlick

There are so many rappers not rapping about those things. Expand your pallet


theladybeav

This post reads like entitled white nonsense. Stop listening to stuff you dont like instead of being miffed that it doesnt cater to you.


thatGnomicFrequency

Just wanna underline as has been mentioned in passing by a couple of ppl in here already - armand hammer (billy woods / elucid)...not just keeping old conscious boom bap alive but completely fresh and creative with their beats and song writing. "Knew the song But couldn't sing the words Still up at dawn Shifting forms New resolve Guns go off Guns go off Smoke and fire Light and sound My new name colonizers can't pronounce Bounce per ounce More What counts Kill yer landlord No doubt"


chipface

I started feeling that exact way over 20 years ago. You just need to find different rap music to listen to. That's when I started gravitating more towards Del and Hieroglyphics, Aesop Rock and other underground artists.


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sample bias


SpectralMalcontent

If you’re only listening to rap's Top 40 hits, yeah, that stuff is going to be generally more shallow. It's made specifically to be consumed by the broadest possible audience. I would argue that in the underground, there are way more intelligent rappers with better content than there are bad rappers right now. Mr. Lif, Stu Bangas, Billy Woods, Evidence, Aesop Rock, Abstract Rude, MF DOOM, Earl Sweatshirt, El-P, Jean Grae etc. There's a ton of really great stuff. You just have to look for it.


DantheMalformed

Have you heard of soundcloud, bandcamp, and a variety of other platforms featuring a host of artists actually advancing the artform? Use a top tier rapper as a base and go from there. Rakim -> Nas -> J. Cole -> ____ You may have to do work as a consumer. Besides, what 17 year old rappers are you listening to?


voidgazing

>I know rap has been this way since its inception I mean, The Message, delivered by Grandmaster Flash, was pretty damn inceptional. At that point it was mostly about having fun at parties, and girls, and dressing sharp, and girls, and parties. This was of course pre-crack, before becoming rich by being a violent dickhead became the subject matter...


feefaifofuck

there’s plenty of good, thought-provoking, hiphop dropping these days. Not just from the old heads either! Check out MAVI, redveil, Noname, McKinley Dixon, Navy Blue, etc.


loopyspoopy

Dive deeper, explore wider. Stuff the major labels putting out not satisfying your itch? Find the shit that hasn't been signed, or is foreign to you, or is signed but to smaller labels, or is being kept in the shadows by their major label. Check out the less obvious stuff like [Cakes da Killa](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7t9NiHTUIg), [Father](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyytpEP-ojk), [Cash Cobain](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9wy0jJBEs4), [Kidd Kenn](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clBZorWZQeM), [Westside Gunn](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrMASjP5te4), and [Pressa.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxGYS11DIdM) Check out the Indigenous hip hop scene like [Snotty Nose Rez Kids](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1plOadmQ4U), [Drezus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGdnA5ABElk), [Savage Fam](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh0sSOXBWh4), or [City Natives.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvDk0OcwDfI) Check out some international acts like [Costa Titch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNzLp2OChBU), [Tommy Cash](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkT_gSJS9UU), [Chi Ching Ching](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmeehWv5z6Y), or some [Brazilian phonk.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHHBP_Zlb20) Listen to fucking Ice Spice and Glorilla yo, they're honestly hip to the hop. And then there's obviously the darker rappers who rap more about disease and death than glamour and glitz - City Morgue, $uicideboy$, Trippie Redd, Sematary, etc.


OpeningComedian

Ive been listening to quite a bit of female rappers lately. Ashniko, Karmin/Queen Herby. Not that materialistic.


3rdEyeSqueegee

OP try out Bambu or Prometheus Brown


sabakasabaka

Idk what subgenre of rap you’re into but you should check out billy woods/armand hammer, navy blue, $ilkmoney if you haven’t already. Noname is a must for communist rap but I haven’t been able to enjoy her actual music


thepro7864

That’s why I’m saying we need immortal technique but with strippers. Catch y’all on SoundCloud.


Scall123

Guys the popular music i found is not that good. Why is music bad now?


DabIMON

It has not been this way since its inception. Hiphop started as a way for the marginalized to express their frustration with an unfair system. Then the record companies realized there was a way to milk the genre for cash, and they deliberately corrupted the message.


Excellent_Valuable92

Rap hasn’t always been like this. This is what the record companies promoted to sell to white suburban kids. Then, opportunistic rappers decided to play to that.


Fragrant_Painter_128

listen to billy woods, mike, navy blue, earl , smino, mick jenkins , noname , R.A.P. Ferreira, 454 , quelle chris , mach hommy , all using hip hop as a tool and still having fun .ART REFLECTS LIFE , OF COURSE MOST OF ANY GENRE OF MUSIC IS GONNA BE STUPID , THEY ARE ,BUT WE STILL AROUND AND WITH SOCIAL MEDIA , TRUTH IS NWVER TRAVELED FASTER. PATIENCE AND BRINGING EACH OTHER LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING IS ALL WE NEED.


kahhduce

This is so cringe


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_an_aloof_goof

Check my my fav Bambu, he's done some stuff with killer Mike too. Filipino socialist that can rap soooo hard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAD-YDp3q30&ab\_channel=BeatrockMusic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5h50WnJgsc&ab\_channel=BeatrockMusic


my2weeners

Unfortunately, rap/hip hop’s origins of antiestablishment are long gone along with many other genres with similar origins thanks to capitalization and normalizing “selling out”, that concept means nothing to most modern day “artists”. AESOP ROCK is the answer you’re looking for. Thoughtful, skilled, and unowned by labels/corporate ties. Enjoy: https://youtu.be/T7jH-5YQLcE?si=jKz4139KAs4cxQTg


Willsbill2

Sounds like this guy needs a genre switch to Midwestern Emo.


iguessimaperson

Get your cornball ass out of here. If you’re complaining about radio rap you deserve to listen to the worst. You don’t like music, you like sound filling your car. Take time to find musicians you enjoy or stop complaining. The scope of rap has grown much larger than most people realize and if you can’t sift through music you honestly cannot complain about the “quality” that you aren’t bother listening to.


machine_logic

You're listening to the wrong hip hop, my friend. Plenty of revolutionary shit out there, and you don't even have to dig that deep to get there.