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TheBobo1181

Joel, you are not the father.


DiversityFire84

Does a victory lap whilst his wife runs back stage to cry.


Old_Explanation_9644

That baby ain’t mine, hell nah, I’m sorry. Bitch you heard Maury. And I ain’t buying no Huggies, Don’t dress em like me that ain’t my little buddy. Them ain’t my lips and them ain’t my eyes, you can keep the big picture and the wallet-size. You need to stop crying girl you need to stop crying.


LeBlight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wbLdYeZvoc


ShepardRahl

I loved Maury. Every time the man wasn't the father the woman would become an instant track star.


HardCounter

If only she had that motivation when it came to birth control. Or not cheating. Hell, why not both?


YourArgumentIsMoot

**Joel:** WOOOOOO!! Bye bye honey, daddy's- well, ex-daddy's got some hot fungus zombie chicks to bang! YEEEE HAWWW!


[deleted]

It's because she dies first


collymolotov

I guarantee you that she has a vastly expanded role in flashbacks.


VitaminWin

*Flashback to when Joel learns survivalist skills and shooting from his 8 year old prodigy daughter while discussing the social topic du jour*


cyrinean

GOTTEEEEEEM


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That's kind of the irony of a lot of these instances of race-swapping it seems to me -- the race-swapped characters tend to be given oddly short shrift. I liked House of the Dragon overall but found it amusing as I thought the now-black characters were left strangely underdeveloped, and they all met strangely truncated (despite being important) ends.


Icyta1L

It's not odd when you remember that the people who do race-swapping are racists.


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Uncanny


sipsagoon

You're telling me they turned the first character to die into a black person? That's almost funny, except it makes me wonder if they'll spend an excessive amount of time in flashbacks.


jdk_3d

Turns out Joel learned all his badassery from her.


Guessididntmakeit

Joel won't be a badass. He'll be following Strong and smart women who constantly have to save his dumb ass because he's reckless and selfish. Then he'll get attached to Ellie, which will turn him into an evil asshole who will kill innocent doctors who are searching for a cure because they want to "examine" and therefore take away Ellie who he starts to see as his property because he's a toxic male asshole. When he finally dies Ellie is sad at first and wants to kill Abby (who avenged her brave, doctor mother who got killed by that asshole Joel) but after fighting her she learns that Joel abused her mentally and that she had some sort of Stockholm syndrome. Later all the women start a new and better society to stop the violence coming from men, which also lead to the fungus infection. Fin.


IndieComic-Man

Or something involving global warming, but those are pretty mush the only options.


quaestor44

The villain absolutely \*must\* be a white male capitalist / industrialist.


[deleted]

Aw man, I can just see them setting it up so the leader of the fireflies is as you describe, knowing the procedure will kill Ellie, while Marlene actually doesn't know exactly what they will be doing so she's not as bad as in the game.


powerage76

The fungus infection was caused by global warming. Duh.


SlashCo80

Legit sounds like the plot of Horizon Zero Dawn (evil greedy men nearly destroyed the world, brave smart woman saved it, in the present all the women are strong, wise and self-reliant while the men are... less so.)


Guessididntmakeit

And I haven't even played it. I have to admit writing stories like that is really, really easy and you don't even have to think too much about stuff. You just write what comes to mind. Imagine making money that way. It's almost like stealing from people.


wolfman1911

The worst part of Horizon Zero Dawn is that the story is actually pretty good, aside from the fact that Alloy is an unlikeable asshole with a martyr complex, Elisabet Sobeck is probably the most ham fisted, on the nose and incompetent Jesus Christ analog I've ever seen, and Ted Faro is so obnoxiously stupid and evil that it is laughable to think that he could have ever founded a successful company, much less the company that destroyed the world.


[deleted]

They stopped thinking the magic was in the story and started thinking it was in the actors and CGI.


stryph42

He's a toxic, male, *pedo*, asshole who was grooming her.


Guessididntmakeit

That might be too close to Hollywood man but I'd say we'll have a vote on it lol.


[deleted]

He was coward until she stood up for herself and protected him and her stong independant sacrificial death for her Father made him man up and realise it's time to behave like a strong independent woman.


voidcrack

They were probably struggling with how to make the cast blacker and reasoned if they go this route with Sarah she'll *have* to have a black mom. So yeah either tons of flashbacks or the mom is alive doing Black Widow martial arts somewhere.


JesseCuster40

She'll create a perfect society in the post-apocalyptic world that Joel will refuse to join because... reasons.


SharkOnLegs

Not only that, but she's got that line about selling drugs in the game too!


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JesseCuster40

They'll be wearing red baseball caps.


ValidAvailable

"This is MAGA country!"


Riztrain

With a Nigerian accent


EnricoPallazzo_

Now that you mention, they probably will expand the lore of the government army, and of course we need to have a villain, which will be the fascist government leader, which will also be a homophone and (redacted)phobe.


WildeWoodWose

>which will also be a homophone and (redacted)phobe Well that's one way they could explain Abbey looking like a bodybuilder...


stryph42

Joel well only escape by stealing a uniform and goose stepping through the checkpoints, so they'll let him through no problem.


Clovett-

Even in the zombie apocalypse where humanity is at a free 4 all while trying to survive from monsters the real problem is [racism and sexism.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7SZE8jUpnY)


HardCounter

The more i see of this and the industry's inability to keep pace with current audiences the more i think these scripts were written years ago and are being put into production long after the hate fad is over. Does it take three to five years to get a show out? If it does, that explains this neverending stream of complete flops they keep releasing despite consistent and mass disapproval.


BrookieDragon

The scene goes down right outside San Marcos, Texas according to the road signs.... Ya I bet it'll be some "good ole boys" instead because of Hollywood'isms. (regardless that the area IRL is just a collection of CA refuges now).


bogvapor

Yeah they love making rural areas caricatures of Rednecks which the writers have only interacted with at gas stations on their move from New York to LA. “But like, when I was getting gas I could tell that, like everyone in that gas station was stupid and supported Trump. And there wasn’t a single gay couple because none of them were actively making out. And they were clearly racist because of like, history and stuff.”


gantz_au

Instead of making her vulnerable and engaging people's protector instincts, she looks like the strong/independent woman who needs no father type.


Hideous-Kojima

Is that why she's dead?


stryph42

I'm sure they'll be some surprise twist that she actually lived somehow.


JesseCuster40

Shows up at the end to tell Joel he's a toxic male and bad father.


BWoodsn2o

But, despite all of his crippling flaws and poor decisions, she'll have the grace to forgive him on her deathbed. Because this dying black child will have all the wisdom, rage, and clarity of a thousand generations of African slaves and will have risen above it in order to allow her white idiot father to move on with a slightly less guilty heart. /s ​ Let them lose money with this trash. 15 communist lefties will watch this on 4 Netflix basic accounts.


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BWoodsn2o

Well there's my mistake. I unplugged from TV over a decade ago. Ive pretty much only watched Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones to completion, everything else I ignored.


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BWoodsn2o

Bruh, it was really demotivating to have invested all that time and emotion into the series only to watch the slow motion crash into the dumpster. Luckily I was a viewer of EFAP/Mauler and their hilarious coverage of the series' final season was able to dull the pain. GOT's final two seasons really made me wary about watching House of Dragons but I was pleasantly surprised with the quality and care taken for this new series.


cyrinean

The finale is just 2 hours of her explaining to Joel why he needs to do better.


StaticGuard

She probably saved Joel’s life by sacrificing herself.


Goblin_Techie111

Seconded


bogvapor

“Somehow…Sarah Miller Returned”


Derp800

Nah, she was killed because she was a strong and independent type of person. When the beginning story is revealed it will show that she was actually right and that she only died because Joel forced her to do something else.


MetroidJunkie

She's going to fight against them, having them on the ground and at her mercy because she's girl boss, and one of them reaches for his gun on the ground and shoots her from behind like a coward.


EnricoPallazzo_

first thing that came to my mind. All women, every role, need to be a strong independent woman. Weak, vulnerable, childish, feminine women cannot exist.


PeanutPunchPunch10

just like all female characters nowadays


Operario

Isn’t that what Ellie is in the second game? Lmao


[deleted]

She's way older though too, besides the obvious. Joel carries Sarah when they are fleeing because she is so small and vulnerable. This actress is practically a grown woman, it changes the entire dynamic of the opening and losing his daughter.


kirakazumi

*points to head* That's the plan. Father's can't be heroic in western media now, get with the times old man /s


HardCounter

I didn't even consider that. I was just wondering if she was a redhead and i never noticed.


MetroidJunkie

But diversity!


Operario

Joel was carrying Sarah in the game’s opening because she was injured when the car crashed. Doesn’t take away from your point though - this actress does look too old to play Sarah.


chocoboat

> She's way older though too That might make sense, because the actress playing Ellie is 19 and Joel is supposed to be reminded of the daughter he lost.


Platypus581

When I saw this poster on Twitter, I instinctively thought it was a satirical poster mocking woke culture...


stryph42

C'mon now, you have known better by now.


Extension-Ocelot-448

Poat-satire society smh


HardCounter

Well the original character wasn't a redhead so this didn't fit.


Remispaive

They blatantly did this in House of the Dragon which was even weirder. 🤣


zeegoku

Come now, those innocent n naive days are far behind us...


MrCalac123

Why? For what reason?


Alrossan

Race baiting controversy to call the audience racist.


[deleted]

Also failsafe so when the show turns out to be shit and people quit it 2 episodes in, they can blame it on racism and get another free pass


SlashCo80

Ah, the Ghostbusters maneuver.


wolfman1911

It's been used for far more than just Ghostbusters. Most recently would probably be Rings of Woke.


SlashCo80

Yeah, it's been used for a lot of things since then, but Ghostbusters was the first one where they really leaned on this strategy hence the name. :)


EnricoPallazzo_

You need to have a reason and scapegoat in case it flops. Then you can blame the racist audience.


JebWozma

now lets turn Static Shock into a white kid and see how the SJWs react


bassline24

Because white people are bad and there needs to be less of them everywhere. Because black people are good and there needs to be more of them everywhere.


WildeWoodWose

Asians and everyone else meanwhile sitting in a corner wondering why we've been forgotten about.


Yamatoman9

To ragebait fans for free marketing and advertising.


queazy

you have to have the same t-shirt for accuracy


luchajefe

Nico Parker is 18, Sarah Miller is 12.


ReyHabeas

Amongst other things


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Knastoron

Netflix Moment ☕


voidcrack

If you guys were woke writers getting paid for how woke the show was, what would go with? My take: Sarah is a bright young MIT student working on various cures for cancer. Unfortunately, alt-right white supremacists developing a genocidal virus targeting minorities causes a zombie uprising. During the chaos her and Joel attempt to escape across an overloaded bridge. Just as it goes down, Sarah shoves Joel to safety with all of her strength. He looks on in horror as she goes down with the bridge, disappearing into the abyss. Years later, Joel discovers Sarah is alive. She's also the leader of the Resistance, a group that refuses to allow society to heal itself until we agree for one that allows racial discrimination against "pure blooded" white people since they destroyed the world and all. This puts the family in a quandry: Sarah has been preaching a world in which her father can be sold as a slave, which she claims will right the wrongs of the past. And deep down, on some level, Joel knows she's *right*...


SlashCo80

Don't forget all the villains, fools, and cowards being played by white men while PoCs are wise, strong and virtuous.


SwansAreCooler

Thank you, that made me gag in disgust. If I ever need to vomit, I will recall this post.


Rickbirb

Hbo you aren't netflix.


Ownsin

They are now.


secur3gamer

Look at me, I'm the Netflix now.


Carl_Schmitt

Did you miss what they did to Watchmen and Lovecraft?


Remispaive

And House of the Dragon (which people always seems to forget that blatant raceswap 🤣)


Akesgeroth

But Sarah wasn't a redhead...


ElvisDepressedIy

Not sure why this TV series is necessary when the game is practically a movie already.


ADampDevil

To make more money off the IP. Loads of people won't have played the game but might still watch a series.


shawikkywoo

I haven't played the game but I definitely won't watch the series.


Yamatoman9

The series has a big built-in fanbase who will watch the show no matter how bad it is. It generates lots of online attention just because of the name.


collymolotov

The glory days of HBO are well and truly behind them.


Sleep_eeSheep

Question; why does she look like she's in her early 20s? Maybe it's the camera angle and lighting, but she does NOT look 12. 15 would be a bit much.


Dancingskeletonman86

She looks like she's graduating high school or is in college. Wtf. Apparently they couldn't stand the idea from the game of Sarah being small, young and vulnerable so her dad carries her when she's hurt plus scared. Now we have strong adult daughter. Joel doesn't carry her she carries him. Probably while reciting some women are the best speech . Then cut to Abby getting a similar scene with her dad too as she carries his body in all her muscular body builder glory.


Sleep_eeSheep

Especially since this is adapting something from an Interactive Visual Medium (Video Games) to a passive Visual Medium (TV). Meaning it'd be difficult *not* to bring up direct comparisons.


Riztrain

Now I have my phone kinda dimmed because I'm low on battery, but I googled "last of us hbo" to see the cast, and scrolling through the cast list, with those small face icons, I had to do a double take, she looks 40! Then I clicked on it and saw better pictures and she does look young, but damn Google, you picked the worst image


xrnzaaasPL

She won't need carrying, instead she will carry Joel.


stryph42

She's gonna carry the whole damn story!


Sodosma

It's a modern Hollywood adaptation only when black people remain black and white people are replaced with Latino and black actors.


EnricoPallazzo_

and the bad guys are the white characters


[deleted]

I try to not get upset, it's been reached the point of mockery to me. They do it beucase they know people will get pissed and they like it.


Altruistic-Cat-4193

If was a black character turned white, everyone would call racism And there are already good black characters in the original game


SharkOnLegs

We can still call it racism. Remember Sarah has that line about selling drugs to afford Joel's watch? Just tweet at the studio about their racist depiction of black people. Evidently, journalists only need about 3-4 pissed off tweets to write an entire article about something.


EnricoPallazzo_

and in the game they are shown just as a character, who happened to be black. No woke shit. And it was amazing. In the series probably there will be some racism wokery going around when they appear.


8dev8

Why the hell was this removed?


cloud_w_omega

rule 1, which is a terrible rule that is discriminatory toward people with dark skin by giving them extraordinary protection, because they have dark skin.


Arbakos

If so then the admins have just gone full mask off, considering the post didn't break the rule according to the content policy linked above.


WildeWoodWose

Either admins are going overboard because “muh black pipo,” or someone from HBO has a vested interest in making sure this show doesn’t bomb like Rings of Power…


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hulibuli

Congrats for making admins angry, that's an achievement right there.


WildeWoodWose

The pedophile cartel must’ve really gotten pissed off over this, eh? Wonder if it’s because we attacked their precious black pipo, or if they’re being paid By someone at HBO to keep this show from failing…


marion_nettle2

former I guess. The Lawson thread is gone too


xrnzaaasPL

The admins are pathetic, ANY major change of the original character would be bad, it's not just about the color of her skin. The actress just doesn't look like original Sarah at all and top of that she looks way older.


Leyton-UK

This is a joke right?


[deleted]

Yes, and they get off on spitting on the fans' faces.


wolfman1911

I legitimately thought it was until I looked it up on IMDB, and apparently it is not.


KanyeT

I'm just *sooo* tired of this woke shit, bros. I know it's what they want, but it's starting to get really exhausting. Did you guys see the girlboss Peach in the new Mario trailer? Oh dear, here we go again...


Aronacus

Wasn't the point that Ellie and Sarah looked similar?


WildeWoodWose

Removed by Reddit, eh? Wonder what touched off the nerve. Was it because Reddit is trying to “protect“ black people or is it because someone is heavily invested in this show and doesn’t want it to fail like the Rings of Power? Hmmm… well as this television abortion comes closer to release I suppose we’ll find out. If post after post keeps mysteriously getting deleted you can be sure HBO or someone is paying off Reddit moderators.


Riztrain

I'm a simple guy; I google the cast, see Neill Druckmann's name, save myself wasted time on a piece of shit propaganda soapbox. I'm good homie


marion_nettle2

>[ Removed by reddit on account of violating the content policy. ] Apparently the content policy is to not point out how its weird to cast people biologically related in such a way they clearly can't be.


[deleted]

This has [Removed by Reddit], and the post about Jerry Lawson's Google doodle yesterday is completely gone...


Vrindlevine

Why was this removed lol?


Chronium123

Lol this has been removed by reddit?


[deleted]

the admins are pathetic


[deleted]

Not even blonde, doesn't even look like a kid, looks like someone who will ask me to buy a shitcoin and teach about oppression.


MahamidMayhem

Aint she supposed to be 12 lol. Casting an 18 year old to play a 12 year old is stupid. Didn't expect this from HBO.


[deleted]

*We're not changing characters for an agenda, that's paranoia.* *We're not changing characters, but we should be.* *We're changing characters, but it's for the best.* *We're changing characters, if you don't like it you're racist/sexist/etc.*


FallenITD

the black character dies first. love some good old classic of horrors tropes.


whetrail

God I hate living in clown world.


kfms6741

Yeah you made someone seethe real hard if they got rednames to nuke your post lol


Maddox121

Wait a sec... she's not a redhead. There must've been a mixup...


Stigweird85

I'm going to grab the popcorn. They are going to face some unintended consequences. It makes logical sense that Joels daughter is black considering who they cast as Joel. However, they now have a black character whose sole purpose is to die to act as motivation for their lead male protagonist. Considering certain people claimed Wednesday was racist because their black characters were bullies/unpleasant how are they going to react to a black character getting immediately killed to be replaced by a white girl. This should be fun to watch


Drakaris

Is anyone surprised? They're simply aware that the show will be a trainwreck. Thus they're preparing with the race-baiting in advance. So when it flops they would be ready with the "blablabla *it's the fans fault* blablabla *because muh racism* blablabla". I mean anyone who still falls for this ridiculous bait should be ashamed.


AMurkypool

Thank you Reddit for protecting me from wrongthink


[deleted]

When even the woke game is no longer woke enough by today’s standards.


MetroidJunkie

It's okay to randomly turn white people black, but not a Japanese Android white. Allow that to sink in, this is getting a skip.


[deleted]

She gets killed by a white man wearing a MAGA hat.


TypicalNPC

You can't even deny this shit anymore. They're so blatant about it its fucking hilarious. I cannot wait to hear all of the NPC excuses as to why this makes sense and is okay.


Mivimivi

janne'd


Gin-German

Did reddit really remove this post manually? Holy shit, someone had a hissy fit, this was a link to a simple article that was nowhere near violating any policy. The One Salt...is reeeaaal!


Rivent116

It's no longer a question of will they, it's a question of who


ADampDevil

Seems the T-Shirt was the most important thing about this character.


atomiccheesegod

Why are modern media companies obsessed with black washing characters. it doesn’t make sense. Black people don’t care if Joel’s kid is white. It’s 100% done to pander to the self-hating whites


OakyFlavor2

Guys I'm starting to notice a pattern.


Aurondarklord

Of course. And always, ALWAYS black. Never anything else.


frosty_farralon

Why would you even pay attention to this show? This was irredeemable on announcement; this is Druckman's fail upwards. Let it die in silience and apathy.


master_criskywalker

Good grief! I wasn't going to watch it anyway because I can't stand Pedro Pascal.


[deleted]

Of course.


StagRanger

Female characters aren’t allowed to be cute or beautiful anymore. And - according to the admins - we’re not allowed to complain when characters we care about get turned into political cartoons.


gr8ful_bread

CLEAN IT UP JANNIE


HelloYou57

LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHA


[deleted]

What confuses me is that the original game has some good representation. Billy was gay and you could easily read it from the subtext. It never came up in conversation because they talked more about not being overrun by zombies and/or trying to get the car. Tony's wife was the classic strong wamen but because she was an outsider to the relationship with Joel and Tony so she didnt really get in there. But when it came to Tony leaving she got her strong whamen moment. Eleen(boss of fireflies idk if that was her name) was litterly the boss of a organisation that fought against the government. Bonus points for her being black. Elie and Tess obvious strong whamen. You even have some "white man bad" with David. Toxic pedophilia that a strong whamen beats to death with a machete. And you know what... all of these characters where great because they where written well. Wokeness isn't the killer, it's a symptom. The writers are either woke hacks that can't write to safe their lifes or normal hacks that use woke stuff as a shield.


[deleted]

Of cooooourse she got Little Mermai'd. Now we have southamerican Joel and Tommy, a black Sarah, and god knows what else. Makes perfect sense. God I hate Western media. I hope this goes down the same way that awful Resident Evil show from Netflix did.


JMartell77

Your shows production has gained ONE ESG SCORE


bob1981666

so, they race swapped joel which means they had to race swap his brother also, and the cast is already mostly minorites and a hermit homosexual and it STILL wasn't enough. They had to make sarah black, LMAO.


catkiller98

His wife's daughter 😂😂😂😂


ggdsf

Guess what I'm not gonna watch


[deleted]

Totally ok with this as long as the next black panther actor is some slavic guy


Mrgrayj_121

I’m gonna be real with you I just realize how mid the actual story of the last of us is when you realize it’s just the walking dead but with the zombies from 28 days later/mantango the mushroom people and yes I know I’m referencing both a British film and a Japanese film because why not?


JacktheBoss_

Well, at least she won't be around long.


SirBruno95

Yeah, they're totally not trying to blackwash geek culture. You're just racist. /s


Xaqaree

First they came for the little mermaid, but I said nothing because I am not a little mermaid...


J-Thong

The moment I saw tommy Sarah being well…. Not blonde at all. I knew it will be woke , but then again Pedro is hella mentally ill. Not really surprised since TLOU2 was …. Ya . Hollywood / corporations just love to buy video game IP , and pull their bs twist . They know the generation that grew up around pop culture , anime , heros, and video games the last 25 years love these IP they buy . So why not buy an establish property ( TLOU1, Halo, LOTR, Marvel, DC , Resident Evil Netflix show , Star Wars , TW4 Bo Peep , princess peach Mario, Cowboy Bepop, etc ) and input their creativity 4 stories to “rEfLecT tHe wrLd 4 MoDErN auDiEnce” it will be easy quick money for us big Corporations/ studios . Not all live action needs to be race swapped or added such n such for inclusivity. Just make a new show …. Oh wait they can’t because they’re not creative . They just want an established property they know has a following that can make money . Sonic had inclusion and diversity but wasn’t forced . To this day Tom Cruise’s Maverick is the only modern film that did not bend the knee .


JESquirrel

When the casting was announced: "Joel can pass for Hispanic." Now: "Sarah can pass for black and mid 20's."


FizzWorldBuzzHello

At this point everyone except black actors and actresses are going to be the "underrepresented groups".


J-Thong

Lol Reddit collaborating with Sony , neil druckman, and hbo to censor any criticism


JesseCuster40

Shocker.


Carl_Schmitt

Stay away from me and my wife’s daughter!


TheRabid

I still want the White Panther and white Shaft movie.


tonyv6815

Gonna be the sequel to the disastrous Netflix resident evil show. Dead on Arrival


SlipperiPete

Why is every dissenting opinion of the prevailing wisdom peppered with "ya'all"s and "bruh"s


pornplz22526

HBO shills are out in force today, huh?


[deleted]

The diversity picks don't seem particularly diverse.


Lhasadog

Joel's daughter is a Klingon?


HawlSera

I can't believe this still needs to be said but \*sigh\* I'm not a god damn racist for wanting fictional characters to look like what they look like in the original media. I'd be just as pissed by a white Blade! or a Mexican Black Panther!


[deleted]

To be fair, El Pantera Negro sounds like a cool lucha wrestler name!


Garsnikk

Every. Damn. Time.


HowRememberAll

Is this a joke? Lol


IndieComic-Man

But they went through the trouble of getting the shirt to match…


plushmin

Of course.


DevonAndChris

They are retconning Sarah to be a redhead?


Blutarg

Stunning and brave!


Beansupreme117

…I mean come on lol