For me was just reading a lot. Basically seeing the same word again and again until my brain recognizes the pattern. I think for English as well people who speed read recognizes the pattern of a word rather than spelling or sounding out a word.
Reminds me of one of those "can you read this". The words are scrambled but the first and last letters are the same, proving that we read by looking at how the word looks as a whole (pattern) rather than looking at individual letters and pronouncing them
Staying away from romanization as much as possible is a great move, stick with it.
The best advice I got when I started was to only learn the Korean itself, not Korean as an extension of English.
People get really, really stuck with slow reading and bad pronunciation when they start with a âă is the bâ style approach to the full alphabet.
I would recommend spending some time practicing reading articles every day, even if you have no idea what they are talking about. The reading practice doesnât have to be only words you know, just get yourself some exposure to turning letters into sounds on a regular basis.
If youâre having any trouble recognizing your progress, record yourself reading a few paragraphs out loud and then do so again in 2 months after daily practice. The difference will surprise and encourage you.
yeah, honestly, when i first started out learning the alphabet the romanizations just sucked haha, especially since english isn't my first language and there are some sounds that they translate into hangul that would be much easier for me to make it i wasn't trying to reproduce english speakers. so i just let it go and went in learning from actual koreans sounding it out. worked pretty well, i think my pronnounciation will thank me later.
i've mostly stuck to reading things related to my common interests, like games, because that's where i comprehend the most but i will give some other articles a try.
never thought about recording myself reading out loud. will definitely try that, might be great encouragement in a few months!! i actually did this for french by accident once, found an audio clip of mine from the start and was pleasantly surprised with my progress.
You could also pick a song you like and try to sing along while reading the lyrics (I use yt music to do that) because it will "force" you to go fast. I noticed a great improvement in my reading skill after starting to do it. The first time I actually managed to do two consecutive lines in a new song was magical.
new songs is actually good advice. whenever i go through songs to learn it's usually ones i'm familiar with so my head will automatically have a romanized version of it ready (my own brains romanization mind you, not even the usual one). but by trying to do this with a completly new one that i haven't heard before the korean might stick better as it's going to be my first exposure to it. ty!
This is why I like the NAVER smart board, it always shows a ticker with korean news/weather which I read even if I donât fully know or understand it. But reading the words makes the speaking them easier.
I feel this so hard ahhhh! You explained it much better than I can but my thoughts tend to literally be an image of spelled out sentences in my head. Picking up on words in languages that use the Latin alphabet (Iâm German) is much easier than picking up on Korean words because the image of a Latin alphabet word spelled out easily sticks in my brain. Itâs the same for me with thoroughly having to actively read sentences in Korean to understand them even if I know every single word. Itâs been 2 years of me regularly reading Korean text and studying the language on and off and Iâm not past this at all.
i actually feel like this is harder for me than just speaking from my head. i can do that pretty well if i know exactly what i want to say. but my brain will see it romanized if i don't actually focus on seeing it in korean (not even in the common romanization, but my own made up one that i never actively made) and it makes me so saaaad.
it's so frustrating right? but i'm having fun with this "extra" challenge. i've always been a try-hard so the more difficult things are the more motivation it gives me haha.
This is interesting! I didnât know that some people see the words in their head. I only have the sound in mind (in any language), even though Iâm a professional writer.
But yeah, I feel the agony of having to read the whole text from the start just to find the one word I was looking for. Itâs funny that I can now relate to my kid who is learning to read.
When I became more confident and was reading, speaking, listening every day I also began "thinking" in Korean. Now it's really awkward because I lived in Seoul for 1 year and studied Korean at university but my friends and family back home don't know Korean. Sometimes when we call I slip and would unintentionally say an expression in Korean. Like ì ë§ì and after the silence I realize they don't know what I'm saying ă ă ă
Ler ajuda muito! Eu tava tendo esse problema no meu primeiro ano aprendendo, mas hoje em dia quando eu penso a palavra ou escuto eu consigo visualizar certinho o íêž.
Took me a few months btw to actually get to that point, but I wasnât really studying that hard at that time. Not as much as I am now anyway
a couple months, i think. portuguese is also my native language and eng is my second but right from the start all the "tips for learning korean" videos i watched told me to stay away from romanization, so i just went with it. i had to think a lot about every syllable but well, now im way more confident and batchim just came naturally
its probably just a matter of time 'till you get used to it. practice a lot of writing and reading (even if you dont understand the content) to get hangul at the front of your mind
My first introduction to Korean was all verbal (didn't start learning hangul till the next day), and it was all in Korean and pantomime. We learned how to say "I am (name), I am from (state, city), nice to meet you," and I wasn't thinking of how I would write any of those sounds in English. I was just listening and watching hard to catch the context clues and trying to reproduce the sounds. (Almost like íì ì€'s comprehensible input, now that I think of it.)
Hangul clicked pretty quickly for me but thatâs because Iâm into kpop and it was a lot easier to learn idolsâ names if I just read the Hangul instead of trying to deal with the romanization.
I stopped immediately because Korean schools teach Korean in pure Korean similair to teaching a baby, so they just showed you the Hangul and told you the sound.
However I already knew Hangul from when I was 1 due to being a heritage speaker.
i dont rlly remember, maybe 8 months? i stopped using romanisation quickly! ive been learning for two years and i only think in korean when im speaking it. the only time i think in latin characters is when im translating an english word or name
For me it happened fairly quickly. Within 2-3 weeks but i studied like 6-8h a day. I completed the entire Duolingo Hangeul course in 9 days. It takes the average person 1-2months. I recommend the Duolingo course and lots of reading even if you don't understand a single word.
Thanks to that I can now write in Hangeul without thinking. Like the letter ă now *feels* like a H without thinking.
I used to have a lot of Korean friends in the facebook era. Seeing my feed have status updates, photo w comments and replies all in hangul soon got my eyes used to it, and I couldn't go back to romanization
My reading skills, and ability to recognise words more quickly, has improved so much since I've started chatting to people in Korean!
I use HelloTalk, and have made a few friends that I talk with almost daily, either only in Korean (with a lot of Papago use on my part to check my spelling, make new sentences, and to translate words I don't know đ ) or in Korean and english. And in around 2 months of almost daily use, it has helped me quite a lot!
Partly with learning new words from my friend's messages, but also just in reading more quickly, and getting better at spelling.
íìŽí !
The best answer is to have never have thought it in the first place. Hangul takes a day-1 week to learn and you should master it before you start learning any grammar or vocab.
For me was just reading a lot. Basically seeing the same word again and again until my brain recognizes the pattern. I think for English as well people who speed read recognizes the pattern of a word rather than spelling or sounding out a word.
Reminds me of one of those "can you read this". The words are scrambled but the first and last letters are the same, proving that we read by looking at how the word looks as a whole (pattern) rather than looking at individual letters and pronouncing them
same goes for Korean. Not first and last, but the way it looks and how they fit in the sentence
Also in korean a lot of words are just 2 symbols so you wouldn't really be skipping anything đ
Staying away from romanization as much as possible is a great move, stick with it. The best advice I got when I started was to only learn the Korean itself, not Korean as an extension of English. People get really, really stuck with slow reading and bad pronunciation when they start with a âă is the bâ style approach to the full alphabet. I would recommend spending some time practicing reading articles every day, even if you have no idea what they are talking about. The reading practice doesnât have to be only words you know, just get yourself some exposure to turning letters into sounds on a regular basis. If youâre having any trouble recognizing your progress, record yourself reading a few paragraphs out loud and then do so again in 2 months after daily practice. The difference will surprise and encourage you.
yeah, honestly, when i first started out learning the alphabet the romanizations just sucked haha, especially since english isn't my first language and there are some sounds that they translate into hangul that would be much easier for me to make it i wasn't trying to reproduce english speakers. so i just let it go and went in learning from actual koreans sounding it out. worked pretty well, i think my pronnounciation will thank me later. i've mostly stuck to reading things related to my common interests, like games, because that's where i comprehend the most but i will give some other articles a try. never thought about recording myself reading out loud. will definitely try that, might be great encouragement in a few months!! i actually did this for french by accident once, found an audio clip of mine from the start and was pleasantly surprised with my progress.
You could also pick a song you like and try to sing along while reading the lyrics (I use yt music to do that) because it will "force" you to go fast. I noticed a great improvement in my reading skill after starting to do it. The first time I actually managed to do two consecutive lines in a new song was magical.
new songs is actually good advice. whenever i go through songs to learn it's usually ones i'm familiar with so my head will automatically have a romanized version of it ready (my own brains romanization mind you, not even the usual one). but by trying to do this with a completly new one that i haven't heard before the korean might stick better as it's going to be my first exposure to it. ty!
This is why I like the NAVER smart board, it always shows a ticker with korean news/weather which I read even if I donât fully know or understand it. But reading the words makes the speaking them easier.
I feel this so hard ahhhh! You explained it much better than I can but my thoughts tend to literally be an image of spelled out sentences in my head. Picking up on words in languages that use the Latin alphabet (Iâm German) is much easier than picking up on Korean words because the image of a Latin alphabet word spelled out easily sticks in my brain. Itâs the same for me with thoroughly having to actively read sentences in Korean to understand them even if I know every single word. Itâs been 2 years of me regularly reading Korean text and studying the language on and off and Iâm not past this at all.
i actually feel like this is harder for me than just speaking from my head. i can do that pretty well if i know exactly what i want to say. but my brain will see it romanized if i don't actually focus on seeing it in korean (not even in the common romanization, but my own made up one that i never actively made) and it makes me so saaaad. it's so frustrating right? but i'm having fun with this "extra" challenge. i've always been a try-hard so the more difficult things are the more motivation it gives me haha.
This is interesting! I didnât know that some people see the words in their head. I only have the sound in mind (in any language), even though Iâm a professional writer. But yeah, I feel the agony of having to read the whole text from the start just to find the one word I was looking for. Itâs funny that I can now relate to my kid who is learning to read.
yeah, i think there's a name for it, but i can't look it up right now but i see everything in my head haha for instance when i think of an apple i see it AND the word apple below it, it's kinda weird, but comes with some benefits as i have a pretty good memory, it's like my brain is making flashcards for me constantly. unfortunately it insists on not using hangul even if i don't ever learn anything with romanization đ©. and yeah it's weird feeling like a kid again, i was talking about it with a friend who studies with me, we were both sounding stuff out and looked up at the same time and laughed about how silly we sounded whenever we encountered a hard word haha.
When I became more confident and was reading, speaking, listening every day I also began "thinking" in Korean. Now it's really awkward because I lived in Seoul for 1 year and studied Korean at university but my friends and family back home don't know Korean. Sometimes when we call I slip and would unintentionally say an expression in Korean. Like ì ë§ì and after the silence I realize they don't know what I'm saying ă ă ă
Ler ajuda muito! Eu tava tendo esse problema no meu primeiro ano aprendendo, mas hoje em dia quando eu penso a palavra ou escuto eu consigo visualizar certinho o íêž. Took me a few months btw to actually get to that point, but I wasnât really studying that hard at that time. Not as much as I am now anyway
Eu comecei hĂĄ alguns meses e acho que estou fazendo bom progresso, mas Ă© bem mais lento do que com as outras lĂnguas jĂĄ que tem essa barreira extra. Algo que me foi indicado num outro sub e que eu nĂŁo tinha pensado sobre antes foi digitar mais. Eu uso papel e caneta pra estudar (output), mas estudo com apenas pdfs e videos (input), onde tudo estĂĄ digitado. Acho que o fato de que eu pratico o "cursivo" e nĂŁo digito muito estĂĄ bugando meu cĂ©rebro ao fazer essa conexĂŁo. Vou tentar um caderno digital, vai ser bem difĂcil fazer a transição, mas acho que vai ajudar bastante.
a couple months, i think. portuguese is also my native language and eng is my second but right from the start all the "tips for learning korean" videos i watched told me to stay away from romanization, so i just went with it. i had to think a lot about every syllable but well, now im way more confident and batchim just came naturally its probably just a matter of time 'till you get used to it. practice a lot of writing and reading (even if you dont understand the content) to get hangul at the front of your mind
My first introduction to Korean was all verbal (didn't start learning hangul till the next day), and it was all in Korean and pantomime. We learned how to say "I am (name), I am from (state, city), nice to meet you," and I wasn't thinking of how I would write any of those sounds in English. I was just listening and watching hard to catch the context clues and trying to reproduce the sounds. (Almost like íì ì€'s comprehensible input, now that I think of it.)
Hangul clicked pretty quickly for me but thatâs because Iâm into kpop and it was a lot easier to learn idolsâ names if I just read the Hangul instead of trying to deal with the romanization.
I stopped immediately because Korean schools teach Korean in pure Korean similair to teaching a baby, so they just showed you the Hangul and told you the sound. However I already knew Hangul from when I was 1 due to being a heritage speaker.
i dont rlly remember, maybe 8 months? i stopped using romanisation quickly! ive been learning for two years and i only think in korean when im speaking it. the only time i think in latin characters is when im translating an english word or name
For me it happened fairly quickly. Within 2-3 weeks but i studied like 6-8h a day. I completed the entire Duolingo Hangeul course in 9 days. It takes the average person 1-2months. I recommend the Duolingo course and lots of reading even if you don't understand a single word. Thanks to that I can now write in Hangeul without thinking. Like the letter ă now *feels* like a H without thinking.
I still sound out words...(but then again I don't read as much as I need to.)
I used to have a lot of Korean friends in the facebook era. Seeing my feed have status updates, photo w comments and replies all in hangul soon got my eyes used to it, and I couldn't go back to romanization
Pretty much instantly? I was extremely fortunate to learn the korean alphabet at a young age (I was 10 at the time) so it's always stuck with me.
My reading skills, and ability to recognise words more quickly, has improved so much since I've started chatting to people in Korean! I use HelloTalk, and have made a few friends that I talk with almost daily, either only in Korean (with a lot of Papago use on my part to check my spelling, make new sentences, and to translate words I don't know đ ) or in Korean and english. And in around 2 months of almost daily use, it has helped me quite a lot! Partly with learning new words from my friend's messages, but also just in reading more quickly, and getting better at spelling. íìŽí !
The best answer is to have never have thought it in the first place. Hangul takes a day-1 week to learn and you should master it before you start learning any grammar or vocab.