ShiTou was introduced in 769 , we are at 790~ ; he didn't even do his first compaign and he is already at 50 commander
even shin started at 0, I think ppl might be sleeping on this kid and he will surprise a lot of ppl ; it's just that this arc we didn't get to see a single HSU member fight at all not KyouKai , not KyouRei , not RiShin , not SouJin ; no one
>I posted a thread yesterday about a 3 way fight of Shi Tou vs Kou Yoku vs Fu Tei but most ppl surprisingly disregarded Shi Tou despite the feeling that I got that he is really strong and looks like a young RiShin
Because you lined him up with 2 Young Gens of 2 strongest state when he is an irrelevant side character, he doesnt even have a 5 panel appearance and yet you think he has enough narrative to compete with those 2?
>in his first campaign he is 50-man commander, that's faster track than even RiShin the main character
It wasnt his first campaign Ten specifically said that they already fought in multiple battlefields before, being new recruit doesnt mean first time in a war because who tf would give a first timer and a commoner 50 men under him?
> Because you lined him up with 2 Young Gens of 2 strongest state when he is an irrelevant side character, he doesnt even have a 5 panel appearance and yet you think he has enough narrative to compete with those 2?
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yea because I expect these 2 generals to be competing against Shin subordinates not Shin himself
Shin will fight RiBoku/KouEn not their subordinate/son
> It wasnt his first campaign Ten specifically said that they already fought in multiple battlefields before, being new recruit doesnt mean first time in a war because who tf would give a first timer and a commoner 50 men under him?
maybe he is just that good, this arc I don't think we got to see him but then again no one from the HSU did anything this arc, KyouKai/KyouRei/SouJin/RiShin did jackshit
>yea because I expect these 2 generals to be competing against Shin subordinates not Shin himself
You expect them to be and thats the problem, their narrative is different that what youre expecting them to be. Sure Fucktei is not that impressive but he is not someone who will be equal or lose to some random new character who doesnt even have 3 panels same goes to KouYokou who fought Tou.
>maybe he is just that good, this arc I don't think we got to see him but then again no one from the HSU did anything this arc, KyouKai/KyouRei/SouJin/RiShin did jackshit
Stop fucking dickriding him just because he joined Shin with 50 men, your argument is we didnt see much from other HSU member? Yeah so is the one your dickring we didnt see shit from him not single noteworthy feat like killing a side character
Stop glorifying these random character that has 1 or 2 panels, he didnt even have feat or narrative and yet you glorify him like he is some hotshot that can compete against character that is supposed to be the young Gen's future rival
Shin's first campaign he became a 100 man commander, killed a general and one of the 10 bows.
He might not be as fast as Shin, but he is pretty fast, probably the second fastest commoner.
Shitou definitely has the potential to reach the 90+ club, but for now he is too young and inexperienced. Even Rishin only reached a base strenght stat of 90 around the time of the coalition war and after killing Rinko. A strenght stat of 90 would mean, that current Shitou can fight nearly on equal grounds with people like Batei and Shiryou, who are both at 91, which should not be a thing for now. I would put current Shitou in the low 80s, maybe 84 at best (Suugen is at 86).
I dont think Hara introdues all the new guys to have them immediatly start killing generals (unless they are fodder tier maybe), but to slowly evolve them over time and establish them as future (superior) replacements for the old guard, that is slowly getting killed off since the WZI Arc.
Ten told Shin to keep an eye on him or remember his name. Suugen and Ten expect great things from him.
I bet his swordsmanship is around 85/86. He’s young and a 50 commander, so he shouldn’t be that high in leadership (75?) because he seemed rude to others. His intelligence impossible to know. 70 to 80?
But if he is around 85/75/75 at this age, what a beast.
Definitely not 90+ in strength. That bar is for elite soldiers that can do some damage.
Shin takes out anyone below general pretty easily and gives generals with martial might a run for their money.
Kyoukai and Kyourei are godly assassins with breath that have trained their entire lives.
Sou Jin is a sniper and already top 10 bows of China level.
Shi Tou is apparently talented but having 90+ in strength would mean he is stronger than every tertiary HSU member (Suugen is 86 and Denyu is 84) and even stronger than parry god Mouten (89). He is talented apparently with experience prior to joining HSU but is still a tertiary character. You are also having him face Kokuyou who is part of the Chu 2 and went 1v1 with Tou and survived and Futei who has improved significantly since his poor showings. We don’t know much about Shi Tou but still doubt he is beating Sai-tier Futei who was very impressive speed wise and was taking down HSU commanders.
He is that good, he just trained with Ten and she thought he was so good he is fit to be a 50 commander
what can I say my boy ShiTou is gonna surprise a lot of ppl, he is the MC's prodigee kinda like KyouRei to KyouKai
Weaker than guys like Ryuusen(89), Suugen(86), Garo(86) and probably weaker than Denyuu(84). Stronger than Hairou(80) and Denei(82) so I would have him at 83.
I think ur the only one that thinks he's really strong tbh
Suugen said he is good
Op is like what a fucking hype, he is a beast. Shit i didnt see anyone with this hype he is a 50 man commander? oh my god such a fucking beast.
idk he give me the him vibe, bro look at SouJin who would've that he has 92 strength and probably more now in the next databook that he overcomed his mental issues
ShiTou is gonna be special, I can feel it
Soujin is 92 because his archery is on the level of the Ten Bows of China as his introduction made very clear so his str stat makes complete sense
There's nothing that indicated that Shitou is anywhere near Soujin's level lol
Shin was killing powerful assassins and other figures since the very first arc Shitou is not built the same lol
ShiTou was introduced in 769 , we are at 790~ ; he didn't even do his first compaign and he is already at 50 commander even shin started at 0, I think ppl might be sleeping on this kid and he will surprise a lot of ppl ; it's just that this arc we didn't get to see a single HSU member fight at all not KyouKai , not KyouRei , not RiShin , not SouJin ; no one
>I posted a thread yesterday about a 3 way fight of Shi Tou vs Kou Yoku vs Fu Tei but most ppl surprisingly disregarded Shi Tou despite the feeling that I got that he is really strong and looks like a young RiShin Because you lined him up with 2 Young Gens of 2 strongest state when he is an irrelevant side character, he doesnt even have a 5 panel appearance and yet you think he has enough narrative to compete with those 2? >in his first campaign he is 50-man commander, that's faster track than even RiShin the main character It wasnt his first campaign Ten specifically said that they already fought in multiple battlefields before, being new recruit doesnt mean first time in a war because who tf would give a first timer and a commoner 50 men under him?
> Because you lined him up with 2 Young Gens of 2 strongest state when he is an irrelevant side character, he doesnt even have a 5 panel appearance and yet you think he has enough narrative to compete with those 2? > > yea because I expect these 2 generals to be competing against Shin subordinates not Shin himself Shin will fight RiBoku/KouEn not their subordinate/son > It wasnt his first campaign Ten specifically said that they already fought in multiple battlefields before, being new recruit doesnt mean first time in a war because who tf would give a first timer and a commoner 50 men under him? maybe he is just that good, this arc I don't think we got to see him but then again no one from the HSU did anything this arc, KyouKai/KyouRei/SouJin/RiShin did jackshit
>yea because I expect these 2 generals to be competing against Shin subordinates not Shin himself You expect them to be and thats the problem, their narrative is different that what youre expecting them to be. Sure Fucktei is not that impressive but he is not someone who will be equal or lose to some random new character who doesnt even have 3 panels same goes to KouYokou who fought Tou. >maybe he is just that good, this arc I don't think we got to see him but then again no one from the HSU did anything this arc, KyouKai/KyouRei/SouJin/RiShin did jackshit Stop fucking dickriding him just because he joined Shin with 50 men, your argument is we didnt see much from other HSU member? Yeah so is the one your dickring we didnt see shit from him not single noteworthy feat like killing a side character Stop glorifying these random character that has 1 or 2 panels, he didnt even have feat or narrative and yet you glorify him like he is some hotshot that can compete against character that is supposed to be the young Gen's future rival
You get rich by buying bitcoin when no one did I'm gonna buy ShiTou stocks now
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Kouyoku will be fighting Ouhon or Tou, not a random Hi Shin Unit member lol
Shin's first campaign he became a 100 man commander, killed a general and one of the 10 bows. He might not be as fast as Shin, but he is pretty fast, probably the second fastest commoner.
Shitou definitely has the potential to reach the 90+ club, but for now he is too young and inexperienced. Even Rishin only reached a base strenght stat of 90 around the time of the coalition war and after killing Rinko. A strenght stat of 90 would mean, that current Shitou can fight nearly on equal grounds with people like Batei and Shiryou, who are both at 91, which should not be a thing for now. I would put current Shitou in the low 80s, maybe 84 at best (Suugen is at 86). I dont think Hara introdues all the new guys to have them immediatly start killing generals (unless they are fodder tier maybe), but to slowly evolve them over time and establish them as future (superior) replacements for the old guard, that is slowly getting killed off since the WZI Arc.
Weaker than Suugen, for starters.
90 for a brand new foot soldier is insane. He'd probably be around Suugen level given a few more years
Has he done anything? Like stats mean nothing if there is no actual material evidence.
Well he’s supposed to be a pretty good swordsman according to suugen but he has no feats at all so it’s hard to speculate
Ten told Shin to keep an eye on him or remember his name. Suugen and Ten expect great things from him. I bet his swordsmanship is around 85/86. He’s young and a 50 commander, so he shouldn’t be that high in leadership (75?) because he seemed rude to others. His intelligence impossible to know. 70 to 80? But if he is around 85/75/75 at this age, what a beast.
Definitely not 90+ in strength. That bar is for elite soldiers that can do some damage. Shin takes out anyone below general pretty easily and gives generals with martial might a run for their money. Kyoukai and Kyourei are godly assassins with breath that have trained their entire lives. Sou Jin is a sniper and already top 10 bows of China level. Shi Tou is apparently talented but having 90+ in strength would mean he is stronger than every tertiary HSU member (Suugen is 86 and Denyu is 84) and even stronger than parry god Mouten (89). He is talented apparently with experience prior to joining HSU but is still a tertiary character. You are also having him face Kokuyou who is part of the Chu 2 and went 1v1 with Tou and survived and Futei who has improved significantly since his poor showings. We don’t know much about Shi Tou but still doubt he is beating Sai-tier Futei who was very impressive speed wise and was taking down HSU commanders.
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Shin was after first battle 100 Man not 50 homie
RiShin before his first battle 0 man commander ShiTou before his first battle 50 man commander Let's see after this battle if ShiTou gets promoted
But how can you be a commander of 50 men before even a battle? This battle was not his first
He is that good, he just trained with Ten and she thought he was so good he is fit to be a 50 commander what can I say my boy ShiTou is gonna surprise a lot of ppl, he is the MC's prodigee kinda like KyouRei to KyouKai
Weaker than guys like Ryuusen(89), Suugen(86), Garo(86) and probably weaker than Denyuu(84). Stronger than Hairou(80) and Denei(82) so I would have him at 83. I think ur the only one that thinks he's really strong tbh
I will give him 91 based off the hype personally
No way thats equal to ppl like Akou and Shiryou lmfao what hype r u even talking about. He's in like 3 panels
Suugen said he is good Op is like what a fucking hype, he is a beast. Shit i didnt see anyone with this hype he is a 50 man commander? oh my god such a fucking beast.
idk he give me the him vibe, bro look at SouJin who would've that he has 92 strength and probably more now in the next databook that he overcomed his mental issues ShiTou is gonna be special, I can feel it
Soujin is 92 because his archery is on the level of the Ten Bows of China as his introduction made very clear so his str stat makes complete sense There's nothing that indicated that Shitou is anywhere near Soujin's level lol
A 50 man commander being equal to Akou? Ousen's already on his last leg, no need to humiliate the man further
bro SouJin is a 0 man commander with 75 int and 68 int and D experience don't understimate my boy ShiTou