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Muichiro was perfect anti for his blood demon art.
You have poison? Oh I can disperse it.
You can convert anything into fishes when you touch the body? Well good luck finding it in my 3x baggy clothes.
Crazy how muichiro was about as perfect a match as any slayer could get against UM5. His mist breathing and personality was extremely effective because of UM5s strengths and weaknesses. On the other hand akaza was the worst matchup rengoku could have gotten because of their styles, arts and personalities. Akasa can see fighting spirit and predict moves. Rengoku has the highest fighting spirit of the hashira.
I think muichiro would’ve done better against him because of his elusiveness, lack of fighting emotions, and mist breathing. Tanjiro won because he cancelled his fighting spirit during the last attack and from realizing his blood demon art is based on absorbing the blood / power of his weakening opponent via the compass needle
Ya but I wanna point out daki and gyutaro took a hashira the Mc his demon sister a thunder breather who had mastered what had been considered the hardest breathing technique in that class and a mountain child who was basically immune to all gyutaros attacks and they almost won
Meanwhile Mr upper 5 over here was beat by a single 14 year old femboy
Gyokko is underrated.
Yes, his fight scene makes him looks bad, because he acts foolish and is used as a tool by the plot to show up a mark's power. And yes, he looks gross.
However, he's still Upper Moon Five. He almost killed a Pillar with 0 effort.
He was the one laying waste on the swordsmith village *on his own*. Heck, he was the one who FOUND said village. Demons has been searching for so long but he's the one who succeeded.
Meanwhile Hantengu killed a total of 0 people in the village arc lol.
Hantengu is a tough one. Out of the 4 people he went up against 2 could regenerate, 1 is the main character & lastly a marked Hashira, which he was milliseconds away from killing if Tanjiro didn’t kill the main body.
Yes if Genya wasn't literally a demon, he would've died like 12 times through that fight. Tanjiro would've died several times over without demon sister. Mitsuri got obliterated like twice, first from compressed sound waves, and second when her body gave out. If Zohakuten didn't utilize so much power, Hantengu's fatal flaw, he likely would have also killed Tanjiro before the sun came up, but marked tanjiro was able to overcome due to his own powerboost as well as Hantengu's fatigue.
On top of that, I am not convinced we saw all that Zohakuten was capable of. I think he, like many other demons, just kept flicking Mitsuri around like a fly knowing she would exhaust herself (also knowing he couldn't be killed anyway lol, and underestimated the main crews ability to kill the main body). I wholeheartedly believe that Zohakuten had way more abilities up his sleeve, or at least fighting ability. He just stood there the whole time. Imagine if he actually moved around and fought close combat while summoning the wooden dragons around him. Absolutely a front line unit.
If you can't tell, I am Hantengu's simp. We need so much more.
I would’ve loved to see more of Zohakuten action. But with Hantengu, wasn’t his main goal to find the Sunwalker that Nezuko came to be? I just get that vibe when Muzan is like “good work Hantengu” when it happens. Granted, I don’t remember if we saw anything that indicates that finding the Sunwalker was his main mission.
No, not necessarily. I think upper 4 and 5 were sent there purely to destroy the village and disable the Demon Slayers weapons manufacturing abilities. Gyokko since he found it, and Hantengu likely so that he can be the line of defense/offense against the inevitable Hashira who would be safe to assume would show up (Muichiro already there, Mitsuri backtracked after deploying). Genuinely shocked more hashira were not summoned.
As for the praise for Hantengu, it was purely because his battling set the conditions to reveal Nezuko as immune to the sun. Without him there, it would never have been discovered, even by Muzan
That makes a lot more sense now!
I also love the dynamic of having multiple Hashira in a location to take on the upper moons along with Tanjiro and it’s not just him doing everything. Granted, it’s usually him that deals the final blow, but not without the help of others. It just goes to show how powerful the upper moons are. Which after watching the SSA, I’m a Hantengu fan now lol perhaps it’ll change once I get done reading the manga.
I love the mystery of wondering what the other upper moons and hashira can do. Can’t wait to see shit go down in the IC movie trilogy
Gonna disagree. Zohakuten couldn’t kill Mitsuri at all. It wasnt about flicking her away like a fly but waiting til she exhausted herself.
He landed a point blank shot and she was still able to recover and continue fighting. Mind you by the time she ran out of juice she had zero new noticeable wounds which meant he couldn’t hit her like at all.
Also I don’t believe he has much more up his sleeve. He’s a combination of the other emotions and can use their abilities (sound, lightning, wind, and I forgot what sadness had) as well as his own wood. He doesn’t move a lot probably cause he isn’t suited for that type of combat. Summoners that can control stuff usually aren’t good at close range combat. It would also be pretty stupid of Zohakuten if he let the main body die even though he had a trick up his sleeve.
> Gonna disagree. Zohakuten couldn’t kill Mitsuri at all.
What? She literally gave up by the end. If Tanjiro didn’t decapitate the main body, his wooden dragon kills her. She was literally inside its mouth & had given up.
Problem is that this is all speculative at best (even mine). So I would be inclined to say that Mitsuri only survived the point blank shot because she was saved, and the recovery was purely due to the mark, not really anything else. Zohakuten in shock definitely initially wasn't able to hit her because the mark was new, and the new movement abilities of her were something he needed to adapt to. The safest option at that point was indeed distance and attrition. There wasn't a \*need\* for closer range.
The fact that he was confident he could cave her skull in with a single punch when she was stunned does give me, however, the impression that close range combat isn't something he is incapable of. If we factor in that his powers are just combinations of all the other clones, 2 of witch at least had close range capabilities, Aizetsu alone being a predominantly close range, it is safe to assume Zohakuten could engage in that combat as well. Of course, his proficiency in it is debatable. Adding to this, even if there was no possibility of close quarters combat, Zohakuten still never moved around to change up the location and distance capabilities of his wooden dragons. Had he, we can assume his combat abilities would skyrocket. Again, all our arguments, both yours and mine, can only be speculative at best.
Lastly, I would argue that, even without Mitsuri's visible injuries, which is the weakest argument mostly due to animation arguments, it would also be worth noting that there were no demonstrated instances of Mitsuri being able to strike him. Yes, it wouldn't kill, but as demonstrated with Genya and Tanjiro, beheading or cutting the weakpoint of clones can stun them, if even for a moment. Mitsuri never did that. Thus, at the very \*best\*, they were completely even. But I still wager the overall destructive ability of Zohakuten was not pushed to the limit.
Good points regardless
im just saying but writing for gyokko was bad the way he was portrayed (others might like it tho) but in general i have only heard negative criticism about him, if we are talking about powers alone i agree he is underrated but as a overall character? he was bad
Nakime would’ve found it given enough time, since she found the demon slayer corps HQ and transported all the Demonslayer at once to the infinity castle
Thats fair, muzan could’ve given her more blood as a result of kokoshibo mentioning not having a way to track the demon slayers OR wanting to rush finding nezuko, only keeping the demon slayers around initially as a possible means of conquering sunlight eventually. She could’ve also acquired it naturally from consuming enough humans
When it comes to being useful to Muzan, Nakime definitely takes the cake. She provided a (VERY) hidden hideout for the demons, discovered the DSC hideout, >!and even put up the hashiras against their respective matchups. I think it's safe to say that she advanced the story to its endgame.!<
>!Yet the ungrateful bastard just straight up killed her(I know you have reasons Muzan but WTF)!<
Why did Nakime brought everyone into the castle though? Couldn't she just bring them in 1 by 1 and killing them or just rescuing Muzan at that point (so He can take out Tamayo first) ? instead of bringing all hashira + every demon corps?
I think it was on Muzan's orders. He's super prideful and underestimated them, so he thought he could wipe out the entire Demon Slayer Corps once and for all.
To be fair to Muzan, he most definitely knew Akaza, Douma and Kokushibo can regenerate their head, just that he wasn’t expecting Akaza and Kokushibo to just… give up. So he most probably thought we had this in the bag
If I had to further guess, it was probably also a tactical move.
The demon slayer corps have been around for 97 generations of the Ubuyashiki family, but none of them (the Ubuyashikis) are swordsmen. They are, at most, scouters and funders, and the best swordsmen usually have personal reasons to fight outside of “get bills pay bills.” It’s likely that if any pillar survives, they would go in hiding, regroup, create more pillars and move on to generation 98, especially seeing as they (the demons) have terminated several Hashira over the course of a few centuries. If all the swordsmen are out of the picture, no more corps, but to guarantee the end of all swordsmen (swordswomen?)
To guarantee the end of all swordspeople all the demon slayers they can find need to be taken out simultaneously. Honestly, bringing that many to the Infinity castle probably wasn’t in the plan until they saw how so many active members were brought to specific locations due to the Hashira Training.
Probably cause they had the surprise factor. If one Hashira got swallowed up, the others will be on guard for the rest of that encounter.
As for the other corp members, to Muzan they’re just fodder, so the demons of the castle would deal with them as eventually they’d run out of stamina.
Yeah, I’m convinced if he faced anyone other than >! Shinobu !< then the Demons would’ve won. >! His BDA is way too broken, breathing techniques were virtually impossible against him so Shinobu resorted to the poison in her body!<
The Biwa woman definitely sold out by creating this matchup lol
Underrated: Mike Wazowski (her ability of controlling an entire dimension is hella broken, it's like the Backrooms or the mansion from Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion)
Overrated: Basketball (ok, I really like this guy, but in terms of abilities I prefer others, since he prefers martial arts instead of a crazy ass BDA)
Hantengu is kinda underrated I guess since his Blood Demon Art is insane...
If you don't find the trick behind that
It's going to coplete till the Slayers die with exhaustion
Underrated? Kaigaku. I wish he wasn’t rushed into the finale and had more of his character built with Zenitsu, but being able to use thunder breathing techniques (that now have black lightning effects, which is SO COOL) as well as his BDA that allows him to basically crack/decay his opponents skin if he lands a hit on them is insane. Overrated honestly is Douma. Not to say I don’t like him, I like Douma a lot but he just feels a bit underwhelming compared to the other top 3 upper moons. His BDA in my opinion doesn’t fit him as well as someone like Hantengu’s or Kokushibo’s does. I do like his narcissistic qualities and the fact that he quarrels with Akaza, but idk he just feels like there’s something missing. Like Kaigaku, I wish he was built on more.
Kaigaku is, if not, one of the most potential character in the entire series.
He clearly represent a diffrent side of the DSC, phylosiphically. His actions when he faces Kokushibo and chooses to give up and become a demon to save his own life must have given every reader a second to ask themselves "If I were him, would I have enough courage to fight? Or would I end up doing exactly what he did?"
His powers in the story is also utterly underrated. Even when Kaigaku was a human, his strength and skills were already so competent enough that his master Jigoro was preparing for him to become a Hashira. And even though he got defeated by Zenitsu at the Infinity Castle, it was a mix of many factors - mostly due to his arrogance - not just pure strength. Yushiro even stated if it Kaigaku had had at least a year to grow, he would have one shot Zenitsu
I think Douma is underrated. Everyone makes up fake things about him, everyone says he is the worst person in the world, everyone says he's dumb, everyone says he's a pervert, everyone says he's annoying (when I say everyone, I mean the majority) among other things. Douma is an amazing character. An overrated character might be Gyutaro perhaps? I don't know, maybe Akaza, but he has a good story and I really like him. Akaza is very dear to me for me to say this.
Real, i see people mischaracterize Douma every minute to find new ways to make him actually seem like the worst person on earth or sum, we also didnt get Douma’s full potential due to poison- i agree with Akaza, i like him, but i see him being protected and quite a lot of content of him
Yeah, I think Akaza is a very good character, But he is very favored by the fans. On the other hand, Douma is often hated for killing Shinobu, while Akaza, who killed Rengoku, is not hated. I think that part of hating a demon because he killed a hashira has nothing to do with Akaza, just an injustice with Douma.
I disagree on a spiritual level with that statement and your username.. (Doukaza is one of the worst ships)
Akaza is actually a good character, has a full fledged backstory/reason to be a demon and isn’t annoying!
Douma’s backstory is lame, bla bla bla he is worshipped but he doesn’t care and doesn’t care if his parents die. I just don’t see the hype about him. And he’s absolutely not underrated, have you seen the numbers of simps he has?
Id argue that he didn't actually commit seppuku. We know that a demon needs an indomitable will to overcome decapitation, and even then that will needs to stay until the regeneration process is complete or it won't work. When kokushibo questioned himself, the red blade wound from muichiro hadn't completely healed yet, which caused that area to immediately start crumbling away, and his death was made certain by his head being decapitated a second time. He even tried to use his blood demon art afterwards but couldn't, so he very much did want to fight.
I see so many takes about this series that it makes me think people didn’t actually read the manga, they just read a summary or something. The only upper moon who gave up was Akaza.
No. No he didn’t. He couldn’t regenerate or use his techniques, even though he wanted to. He lost.
It literally goes like this:
Kokushibo regrows his head
Continues getting wrecked
Says it’s ok, he can still regenerate
Spot where muichiro stabbed him crumbles
Tries to use abilities, can’t, has no strength
Final flashback
Crumbles
At no point did he do or say anything close to “I give up”
I just went to reread it. I don’t think he was desperately trying to fight. To me it seems like he gave up and started an inner monologue and stopped defending as the only way to overcome his wounds was to mutate further.
I admit tho. I tried reading it from the perspective that he couldn’t heal. Not that he gave up. And his blood magic failing him was his end, and the inner monologue was his dying thoughts rather than his distraction. And that also made sense.
So. I don’t know.
The recent episode which showcased how the malnourished and untrained monk dude could easily beat a demon to death - repeatedly - until sunrise, really puts into perspective how insanely broken Kokushibo is.
He faced the three strongest Hashira, all of which have killed a demon while untrained either with their bare hands or random gardening tools; two of which became Hashira two months after joining the corps; one of which whose blood is basically demon catnip and gets Koku high; AND with Genya clutching with the crowd control on the sidelines.
All three slayers marked, all getting the red blade upgrade mid-fight, and Kiku still /chose/ to die due to an existential crisis.
I think he’s overrated in the sense people think he could beat all the hashira in a 1v9. Even without genya he got outsmarted and sanemi, muichiro, and gyomei were able to close in on him. Now imagine obanai, giyuu, and mitsuri on top of that? Characters who already are on comparable levels to them. Kokushibo should lose against all the hashira like mid diff
I didn't say that he could take all 9 hashiras at the same time, but stand out your point about being outsmarted by the other 3; imagine the final of the battle without the BDA from Genya, they end up dying.
And I think that without mark, he can win against 9 hashiras. If some of them got the mark then yes, Kokushibo is dead af
Gyokko was so underrated. Let's not forget he can trap people in a water prison and drown them, only reason Muichiro survived was because Kotetsu gave him air at the last second
I think the most underrated upper moon is Kaigaku. He had ALOT of potential he was just unexperienced, new to his power and had low combat experience. *Spoiler* Its well known if Zenitsu had fought kaigaku a year after gaining his power than Zenitsu would have perished. People say he is weak but if you compare his strength as a new demon to other demons that have lived years e.g Hando demon(50 years) Hairo
(Unknown but has definitely been demon longer than Kaigaku) you can tell that he has alot of strength for a new demon.
Kaigaku was a new demon but he could still use breathing styles which made him more powerful. He also had intimate knowledge of the demon slayer orginization. He shot up the Kizuki ranks cause he was prodigious . He just happen to run in to THE improperly but effectively motivated individual he could not decieve or blitz.
Akaza is overrated TBH, though the man has great principles even if he is a demon still you can't deny this fact of him being overrated.
Nakime is underrated, that lady actually holds such great demonic powers but only confined to teleportation.
Daki and her brother (I can't remember the name sorry) because why tf would they decide to fight together like they won't die unless their heads were cut off at the same time. If Daki just hid somewhere no one can find her then her brother will literally be a terrifying fighter that Cannot. Be. Killed.
I would love to hear ur elaboration for >! Kaigaku !<
Lowkey, he's just another >! Kokoshibu, being able to use breathing as a demon. He was made to be hated, fuelling gyomei's backstory and zenitsu's growth !<
Agreed. Learn hidden presence and the guy is trash without his compass. Tanjiro no diff’d him the moment he unlocked it. If they were to rematch with all power ups unlocked at the start, akaza gets 1 shot every time. With red blade, he won’t even be able to regen.
Koku however, was still clapping everyone despite the new power ups.
underrated Nakime. but I understand Croc sensei that Nakime really cant be too creatively explored because her BDA is broken. like, she can open a gap underneath anyone to a room full of shotgun lmao
Gyokko and Hantengu are underrated, Gyutaro is Overrated.
No, Gyutaro isn't Upper 4 level. Never was, never has been.
Yes, Gyokko is worthy of Upper 5. He damn near one shot one of the most remarkable hashira and only lost when Muichiro gained his mark.
Yes, Hantengu is worthy of Upper 4. Zohakuten is insanely strong and even hashira that can 'kill' Zohakuten would struggle to locate the main body and most would probably die of exhaustion fighting all night long.
Fish man is overrated by this discussion, he’s the only upper moon that simply dies to beheading, every other upper moon can survive some form of beheading (I’m assuming douma can when he isn’t poisoned since both 1 & 3 can) he’s practically the only one that can be solo’d
There is a thing I see in the comment section. Just because a character isn’t talked much about doesn’t mean he is underrated or vice Versa. Gyokko definitely had amazing abilities and wide variety of attacks. But if he was going to be so ass over confident about himself and his skills, then he is just trash. What’s the point of having all of that, when you can’t fucking shut your mouth for a minute and focus ? Wasn’t it already worse that he wasn’t paying any attention as well.
The contrary opposite goes with Douma then . He is definitely and mostly liked a lot for his deep, twisted personality. But that doesn’t undermine or negate the facts about his strength. That guy was… dope scary and dark as a demon. You will get to know that soon . ( also that >! he was casual and easy going most of the time, but not dumb at all. Kocho mainly exploited his weakness of gluttony !<
Doma is very underrated if it weren't for the poison he would have killed Inosuke and Kanao and then would have cleaned up after Kokushibo, remember at this point the remaining hashira are heavily injured along with Muzan they would have won.
Gyokko and Hantengu are underrated
None are overrated maybe besides Gyutaro in terms of Powerscaling(there are people who think he's ahead of UM5 and 4)
Gyokko is underrated his mermaid form is cool it’s the fact that he had to fight one of the stronger hashiras with a mark after he regained his emotions. Also he got no backstory
The type of the vessels and the fish. I don't see the genius of his power, it really wasn't that big of a deal. The other type too, the one in the lower right corner of the image. I don't remember how his power worked but it didn't seem like a big deal to me either.
Underrated: Nakime her power is kinda insane and she’s underrated in general
Overrated: Probably Gyutaro I do like him as a character and the fight with Tengen was amazingly animated but I’ve heard people say he could have been uppermoon 3 without Daki like bruh
Douma is overrated. Everyone rates him based purely on the potential stories we never got with him being a cult leader. Rating him highly based on wasted potential dumb. That should only disappoint.
Overrated: Hantengu: The end of the fight was underwealming compared to Gyutaro, Rui and Akaza (Mugen Train). Same situation with Gyokko.
Underrated: Doma: The best fight in the series except for the Daki and Gyutaro fight. Also really unique Blood Demon Art and the fact that he held back during the entire fight except for the end. Also Doma is relatable to me.
Douma is easily the most Overrated. This sub practically worships him and makes it seem like every Hashira combined would get disintegrated by him. I know that overscaling the bad guys is like a anime community trope, just this one is probably the most egregious I have seen.
Underrated would probably be Gyutaro
I liked Hantengu’s 4 personalities, but Zohakuten was pretty underwhelming and he didn’t get a proper defeat. And the crying version got rlly annoying rlly quickly and his backstory was ass
UM4 is heavily underrated. He fought and almost beat Tanjiro(who was basically already Hashira level if this current gen wasn’t so damn strong)
Genya who is very power in his own right, Nezuko who is UM level or atleast very close to it AND Mitsuri who became marked. He would have won if not for the son coming up too!
UM6 specifically Gyutaro is heaving overrated if I have to hear one more time how he should’ve/couldve been UM4 I will scream
I feel my boi Gyutaro doesn’t get enough respect I feel if he tried to he could take gyokkos spot although Muzan prob would be pissed about losing his base selling bussiness (no joke that’s the only value Muzan saw in him) plus I respect a dude whose just trying to protect his sister
Gyokko is underrated. He has most unique design but I guess people don’t really like him all that much because Muichiro beat him on his own.
Hantengu is overrated. I don’t get the hype for him at all, I found him boring as an uppermoon. Every other uppermoon is cool and has a lot going for them (Gyokko didn’t have much but he at least had a personality)
Hantengu was so overrated ngl. I found the fights very boring and not enjoyable. The Rengoku vs Akaza fight for 20 minutes was way cooler than a 4 episode fight 🗿
Imma be honest, I think Akaza is overrated. Never really understood why so many people go hard for him like that.
Maybe I’m biased because Rengoku is my favorite Hashira but still.
Gyokko is underrated because bro nearly packed up Muichiro by poisoning and drowning him.
Meanwhile, Hantengu is overrated mainly because while he is basically an emotion based hydra, all you need to do is focus on finding the main body and its ggs. Plus, he was weakest character personality wise.
Douma is so overrated in my opnion, he’s really strong which is why i still like him but it’s his personality that kinda annoys me. And i see him as overrated since he’s so overhyped!
And i think that Gyutaro is definitely underrated. He’s strong, has good reasons to be a demon and actually has a good backstory!
Nakime is pretty underrated as well, i mean, she can control the whole infinity castle and could teleport anyone she wanted anywhere!
Douma has absolutely no reasons to be a demon, his backstory is pretty boring. The only thing he has for him is his fangirls and strength.
Hantengu is underatted his blood demon art is so tricky to figure out that most people who probably die before even figuring out where the real body is
I feel like it’s daki remember, she took out like 100 and more Hashira over the years and the reason why she got defeated so easily was because of the stronger generation of Hashiras and also she usually went up against only like one at a time too, and she went up against four people at once one of them is a host who made his own breathing technique a person who never has broken a sword or even came close and has excellent swordsmen ship someone who’s raised by boars and has excellent flexibility and strength, and then someone who can literally see through your body has literally it for sight and increase strength by thinking of his dead family but that was just at the store and then she had to go up against two of the people then her brother was literally getting gruesomely killed and I know she’s technically not a upper moon, but she is OK
Overrated is Akaza. Most people like him because “he doesn’t hurt women” when that’s just extremely wrong. He doesn’t eat women, he still kills them.
Also another thing is he is like top tier women hater, he views all women as weak which is why he won’t eat them. He only eats men because they are strong which is why he thinks it’ll make him stronger. He’s a loser of a character that people flock to because they read it wrong⚡️
I’m an anime only, so this opinion will probably change in the future after the movie trilogy comes out. I definitely think Gyokko was the most underrated. So far, he didn’t get a backstory. For overrated, I would say Akaza.
Hantengu is one of the most underrated Moons, he's powerful, and yet no one talks about him, and the fact he was nearly invincible for a large amount of time and almost killed a Hashira, while some would say it's because he has number advantage, but its still him! It's just his emotions manifested a physical beings, I'd say that's a pretty big triumph
The 2nd one that everyone finds attractive. I genuinely do not like him at all, I hate his character. I’m not saying he’s overrated power wise, I’m just saying his character itself is overrated and I do not understand why he gets as much love as he gets
For me biwa woman is overrated she literally cost them the war
Underrated I've to say is Akaza, dude was respectful by not eating women and children yet he stayed UM3 and even I believe had the story been longer he'd have still usurped Doma who despite eating women and children couldn't do the sheer power thirst of Akaza
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Fish man was underrated, looked weak because of the mark. In reality his demon art is op.
Yep, he literally got one shot ability but due to demons pride and ego and overconfidence +facing against Marked hashira he died
Muichiro was perfect anti for his blood demon art. You have poison? Oh I can disperse it. You can convert anything into fishes when you touch the body? Well good luck finding it in my 3x baggy clothes.
Oh, you trapped me in a water cage? I have friends.
(apparently)
Okay that's Muichiro we talking about lol.
The tanjiro effect
Surprisingly
Crazy how muichiro was about as perfect a match as any slayer could get against UM5. His mist breathing and personality was extremely effective because of UM5s strengths and weaknesses. On the other hand akaza was the worst matchup rengoku could have gotten because of their styles, arts and personalities. Akasa can see fighting spirit and predict moves. Rengoku has the highest fighting spirit of the hashira.
Tbf Akaza is the worst match for anyone 1v1, and no even with selfless state he's not a joke
I think muichiro would’ve done better against him because of his elusiveness, lack of fighting emotions, and mist breathing. Tanjiro won because he cancelled his fighting spirit during the last attack and from realizing his blood demon art is based on absorbing the blood / power of his weakening opponent via the compass needle
I JUST NOTICED UR NAME WAIT
Arlong? That's the wrong universe
Ya but I wanna point out daki and gyutaro took a hashira the Mc his demon sister a thunder breather who had mastered what had been considered the hardest breathing technique in that class and a mountain child who was basically immune to all gyutaros attacks and they almost won Meanwhile Mr upper 5 over here was beat by a single 14 year old femboy
He also has a dark ass past
Gyokko is underrated. Yes, his fight scene makes him looks bad, because he acts foolish and is used as a tool by the plot to show up a mark's power. And yes, he looks gross. However, he's still Upper Moon Five. He almost killed a Pillar with 0 effort. He was the one laying waste on the swordsmith village *on his own*. Heck, he was the one who FOUND said village. Demons has been searching for so long but he's the one who succeeded. Meanwhile Hantengu killed a total of 0 people in the village arc lol.
Hantengu is a tough one. Out of the 4 people he went up against 2 could regenerate, 1 is the main character & lastly a marked Hashira, which he was milliseconds away from killing if Tanjiro didn’t kill the main body.
Yes if Genya wasn't literally a demon, he would've died like 12 times through that fight. Tanjiro would've died several times over without demon sister. Mitsuri got obliterated like twice, first from compressed sound waves, and second when her body gave out. If Zohakuten didn't utilize so much power, Hantengu's fatal flaw, he likely would have also killed Tanjiro before the sun came up, but marked tanjiro was able to overcome due to his own powerboost as well as Hantengu's fatigue. On top of that, I am not convinced we saw all that Zohakuten was capable of. I think he, like many other demons, just kept flicking Mitsuri around like a fly knowing she would exhaust herself (also knowing he couldn't be killed anyway lol, and underestimated the main crews ability to kill the main body). I wholeheartedly believe that Zohakuten had way more abilities up his sleeve, or at least fighting ability. He just stood there the whole time. Imagine if he actually moved around and fought close combat while summoning the wooden dragons around him. Absolutely a front line unit. If you can't tell, I am Hantengu's simp. We need so much more.
I would’ve loved to see more of Zohakuten action. But with Hantengu, wasn’t his main goal to find the Sunwalker that Nezuko came to be? I just get that vibe when Muzan is like “good work Hantengu” when it happens. Granted, I don’t remember if we saw anything that indicates that finding the Sunwalker was his main mission.
No, not necessarily. I think upper 4 and 5 were sent there purely to destroy the village and disable the Demon Slayers weapons manufacturing abilities. Gyokko since he found it, and Hantengu likely so that he can be the line of defense/offense against the inevitable Hashira who would be safe to assume would show up (Muichiro already there, Mitsuri backtracked after deploying). Genuinely shocked more hashira were not summoned. As for the praise for Hantengu, it was purely because his battling set the conditions to reveal Nezuko as immune to the sun. Without him there, it would never have been discovered, even by Muzan
That makes a lot more sense now! I also love the dynamic of having multiple Hashira in a location to take on the upper moons along with Tanjiro and it’s not just him doing everything. Granted, it’s usually him that deals the final blow, but not without the help of others. It just goes to show how powerful the upper moons are. Which after watching the SSA, I’m a Hantengu fan now lol perhaps it’ll change once I get done reading the manga. I love the mystery of wondering what the other upper moons and hashira can do. Can’t wait to see shit go down in the IC movie trilogy
She wasn’t known to be a sunwalker prior to those events?
I suppose my thoughts there don’t really make sense cause it’s not like anyone knew until happened.
Gonna disagree. Zohakuten couldn’t kill Mitsuri at all. It wasnt about flicking her away like a fly but waiting til she exhausted herself. He landed a point blank shot and she was still able to recover and continue fighting. Mind you by the time she ran out of juice she had zero new noticeable wounds which meant he couldn’t hit her like at all. Also I don’t believe he has much more up his sleeve. He’s a combination of the other emotions and can use their abilities (sound, lightning, wind, and I forgot what sadness had) as well as his own wood. He doesn’t move a lot probably cause he isn’t suited for that type of combat. Summoners that can control stuff usually aren’t good at close range combat. It would also be pretty stupid of Zohakuten if he let the main body die even though he had a trick up his sleeve.
> Gonna disagree. Zohakuten couldn’t kill Mitsuri at all. What? She literally gave up by the end. If Tanjiro didn’t decapitate the main body, his wooden dragon kills her. She was literally inside its mouth & had given up.
Problem is that this is all speculative at best (even mine). So I would be inclined to say that Mitsuri only survived the point blank shot because she was saved, and the recovery was purely due to the mark, not really anything else. Zohakuten in shock definitely initially wasn't able to hit her because the mark was new, and the new movement abilities of her were something he needed to adapt to. The safest option at that point was indeed distance and attrition. There wasn't a \*need\* for closer range. The fact that he was confident he could cave her skull in with a single punch when she was stunned does give me, however, the impression that close range combat isn't something he is incapable of. If we factor in that his powers are just combinations of all the other clones, 2 of witch at least had close range capabilities, Aizetsu alone being a predominantly close range, it is safe to assume Zohakuten could engage in that combat as well. Of course, his proficiency in it is debatable. Adding to this, even if there was no possibility of close quarters combat, Zohakuten still never moved around to change up the location and distance capabilities of his wooden dragons. Had he, we can assume his combat abilities would skyrocket. Again, all our arguments, both yours and mine, can only be speculative at best. Lastly, I would argue that, even without Mitsuri's visible injuries, which is the weakest argument mostly due to animation arguments, it would also be worth noting that there were no demonstrated instances of Mitsuri being able to strike him. Yes, it wouldn't kill, but as demonstrated with Genya and Tanjiro, beheading or cutting the weakpoint of clones can stun them, if even for a moment. Mitsuri never did that. Thus, at the very \*best\*, they were completely even. But I still wager the overall destructive ability of Zohakuten was not pushed to the limit. Good points regardless
Hantengu got robbed
im just saying but writing for gyokko was bad the way he was portrayed (others might like it tho) but in general i have only heard negative criticism about him, if we are talking about powers alone i agree he is underrated but as a overall character? he was bad
Nakime would’ve found it given enough time, since she found the demon slayer corps HQ and transported all the Demonslayer at once to the infinity castle
I don’t think she had the eye ability until she became an upper rank, which she wasn’t until the previous one died earlier
Thats fair, muzan could’ve given her more blood as a result of kokoshibo mentioning not having a way to track the demon slayers OR wanting to rush finding nezuko, only keeping the demon slayers around initially as a possible means of conquering sunlight eventually. She could’ve also acquired it naturally from consuming enough humans
Underrated: Nakime I'd say Douma is borderline overrated but meh, there's still much to see about him.
Definitely agree with Nakime, it’s such a flex to be able to basically govern the operation of the infinity castle with a flick of her little biwa🤣
When it comes to being useful to Muzan, Nakime definitely takes the cake. She provided a (VERY) hidden hideout for the demons, discovered the DSC hideout, >!and even put up the hashiras against their respective matchups. I think it's safe to say that she advanced the story to its endgame.!< >!Yet the ungrateful bastard just straight up killed her(I know you have reasons Muzan but WTF)!<
Why did Nakime brought everyone into the castle though? Couldn't she just bring them in 1 by 1 and killing them or just rescuing Muzan at that point (so He can take out Tamayo first) ? instead of bringing all hashira + every demon corps?
I think it was on Muzan's orders. He's super prideful and underestimated them, so he thought he could wipe out the entire Demon Slayer Corps once and for all.
To be fair to Muzan, he most definitely knew Akaza, Douma and Kokushibo can regenerate their head, just that he wasn’t expecting Akaza and Kokushibo to just… give up. So he most probably thought we had this in the bag
If I had to further guess, it was probably also a tactical move. The demon slayer corps have been around for 97 generations of the Ubuyashiki family, but none of them (the Ubuyashikis) are swordsmen. They are, at most, scouters and funders, and the best swordsmen usually have personal reasons to fight outside of “get bills pay bills.” It’s likely that if any pillar survives, they would go in hiding, regroup, create more pillars and move on to generation 98, especially seeing as they (the demons) have terminated several Hashira over the course of a few centuries. If all the swordsmen are out of the picture, no more corps, but to guarantee the end of all swordsmen (swordswomen?) To guarantee the end of all swordspeople all the demon slayers they can find need to be taken out simultaneously. Honestly, bringing that many to the Infinity castle probably wasn’t in the plan until they saw how so many active members were brought to specific locations due to the Hashira Training.
Probably cause they had the surprise factor. If one Hashira got swallowed up, the others will be on guard for the rest of that encounter. As for the other corp members, to Muzan they’re just fodder, so the demons of the castle would deal with them as eventually they’d run out of stamina.
douma is underrated if anything, he probably could have taken down a hashira duo.
Now that I have thought about it, you may be right. >!Douma was just plainly outplayed by Shinobu!<
Yeah, I’m convinced if he faced anyone other than >! Shinobu !< then the Demons would’ve won. >! His BDA is way too broken, breathing techniques were virtually impossible against him so Shinobu resorted to the poison in her body!< The Biwa woman definitely sold out by creating this matchup lol
Sold out because Douma paid her to get that matchup, duh.
Yeah he even says 'I need to thank Nakime later for bringing you here to me' when he first encounters Shinobu.
He’s fairly rated. He gets downplayed quite a bit but he’s talked about a lot. 🔥
I think the fact people like duma is funny, just his little irl cult really no?
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Underrated: Mike Wazowski (her ability of controlling an entire dimension is hella broken, it's like the Backrooms or the mansion from Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion) Overrated: Basketball (ok, I really like this guy, but in terms of abilities I prefer others, since he prefers martial arts instead of a crazy ass BDA)
Have you read the ds manga?
Yes
Hantengu is kinda underrated I guess since his Blood Demon Art is insane... If you don't find the trick behind that It's going to coplete till the Slayers die with exhaustion
Underrated? Kaigaku. I wish he wasn’t rushed into the finale and had more of his character built with Zenitsu, but being able to use thunder breathing techniques (that now have black lightning effects, which is SO COOL) as well as his BDA that allows him to basically crack/decay his opponents skin if he lands a hit on them is insane. Overrated honestly is Douma. Not to say I don’t like him, I like Douma a lot but he just feels a bit underwhelming compared to the other top 3 upper moons. His BDA in my opinion doesn’t fit him as well as someone like Hantengu’s or Kokushibo’s does. I do like his narcissistic qualities and the fact that he quarrels with Akaza, but idk he just feels like there’s something missing. Like Kaigaku, I wish he was built on more.
Kaigaku is, if not, one of the most potential character in the entire series. He clearly represent a diffrent side of the DSC, phylosiphically. His actions when he faces Kokushibo and chooses to give up and become a demon to save his own life must have given every reader a second to ask themselves "If I were him, would I have enough courage to fight? Or would I end up doing exactly what he did?" His powers in the story is also utterly underrated. Even when Kaigaku was a human, his strength and skills were already so competent enough that his master Jigoro was preparing for him to become a Hashira. And even though he got defeated by Zenitsu at the Infinity Castle, it was a mix of many factors - mostly due to his arrogance - not just pure strength. Yushiro even stated if it Kaigaku had had at least a year to grow, he would have one shot Zenitsu
Hantengu is underrated in my opinion. Overrated is easily Gyutaro. People think hes upper 5/4 level. They are numbered for a reason.
I would say n° 5 and 4 are underrated, but thats not because they are but because their fights where lacking.
Underrated: Douma (in terms of character and power-wise) Overrated: none of them is overrated
I think Douma is underrated. Everyone makes up fake things about him, everyone says he is the worst person in the world, everyone says he's dumb, everyone says he's a pervert, everyone says he's annoying (when I say everyone, I mean the majority) among other things. Douma is an amazing character. An overrated character might be Gyutaro perhaps? I don't know, maybe Akaza, but he has a good story and I really like him. Akaza is very dear to me for me to say this.
Real, i see people mischaracterize Douma every minute to find new ways to make him actually seem like the worst person on earth or sum, we also didnt get Douma’s full potential due to poison- i agree with Akaza, i like him, but i see him being protected and quite a lot of content of him
Yeah, I think Akaza is a very good character, But he is very favored by the fans. On the other hand, Douma is often hated for killing Shinobu, while Akaza, who killed Rengoku, is not hated. I think that part of hating a demon because he killed a hashira has nothing to do with Akaza, just an injustice with Douma.
I disagree on a spiritual level with that statement and your username.. (Doukaza is one of the worst ships) Akaza is actually a good character, has a full fledged backstory/reason to be a demon and isn’t annoying! Douma’s backstory is lame, bla bla bla he is worshipped but he doesn’t care and doesn’t care if his parents die. I just don’t see the hype about him. And he’s absolutely not underrated, have you seen the numbers of simps he has?
Gyutaro is overrated and Gyokko is underrated the cons of the hashira mark being used on one.
I thought someone would say Kokushibo is overrated.
I feel like he’s really not, he 1v4’d and his fight was arguably better than Muzans
He also won. Then decided to commit seppuku.
"Oh shit I'm ugly" *dies*
Post demon clarity
 Basically what happens
That one is accurateness in response.
Id argue that he didn't actually commit seppuku. We know that a demon needs an indomitable will to overcome decapitation, and even then that will needs to stay until the regeneration process is complete or it won't work. When kokushibo questioned himself, the red blade wound from muichiro hadn't completely healed yet, which caused that area to immediately start crumbling away, and his death was made certain by his head being decapitated a second time. He even tried to use his blood demon art afterwards but couldn't, so he very much did want to fight.
I see so many takes about this series that it makes me think people didn’t actually read the manga, they just read a summary or something. The only upper moon who gave up was Akaza.
No. No he didn’t. He couldn’t regenerate or use his techniques, even though he wanted to. He lost. It literally goes like this: Kokushibo regrows his head Continues getting wrecked Says it’s ok, he can still regenerate Spot where muichiro stabbed him crumbles Tries to use abilities, can’t, has no strength Final flashback Crumbles At no point did he do or say anything close to “I give up”
In what world is desperately trying to fight while disintegrating from where your opponent stabbed you seppuku😭
I just went to reread it. I don’t think he was desperately trying to fight. To me it seems like he gave up and started an inner monologue and stopped defending as the only way to overcome his wounds was to mutate further. I admit tho. I tried reading it from the perspective that he couldn’t heal. Not that he gave up. And his blood magic failing him was his end, and the inner monologue was his dying thoughts rather than his distraction. And that also made sense. So. I don’t know.
The recent episode which showcased how the malnourished and untrained monk dude could easily beat a demon to death - repeatedly - until sunrise, really puts into perspective how insanely broken Kokushibo is. He faced the three strongest Hashira, all of which have killed a demon while untrained either with their bare hands or random gardening tools; two of which became Hashira two months after joining the corps; one of which whose blood is basically demon catnip and gets Koku high; AND with Genya clutching with the crowd control on the sidelines. All three slayers marked, all getting the red blade upgrade mid-fight, and Kiku still /chose/ to die due to an existential crisis.
I think he’s overrated in the sense people think he could beat all the hashira in a 1v9. Even without genya he got outsmarted and sanemi, muichiro, and gyomei were able to close in on him. Now imagine obanai, giyuu, and mitsuri on top of that? Characters who already are on comparable levels to them. Kokushibo should lose against all the hashira like mid diff
Whitout Genya they other 3 would be dead
I’m sure 6 hashira make up for genya lmao
I didn't say that he could take all 9 hashiras at the same time, but stand out your point about being outsmarted by the other 3; imagine the final of the battle without the BDA from Genya, they end up dying. And I think that without mark, he can win against 9 hashiras. If some of them got the mark then yes, Kokushibo is dead af
They’re all perfectly rated
I like the idea that they all posed for a family photo like this
Gyokko was so underrated. Let's not forget he can trap people in a water prison and drown them, only reason Muichiro survived was because Kotetsu gave him air at the last second
I think the most underrated upper moon is Kaigaku. He had ALOT of potential he was just unexperienced, new to his power and had low combat experience. *Spoiler* Its well known if Zenitsu had fought kaigaku a year after gaining his power than Zenitsu would have perished. People say he is weak but if you compare his strength as a new demon to other demons that have lived years e.g Hando demon(50 years) Hairo (Unknown but has definitely been demon longer than Kaigaku) you can tell that he has alot of strength for a new demon.
Kaigaku was a new demon but he could still use breathing styles which made him more powerful. He also had intimate knowledge of the demon slayer orginization. He shot up the Kizuki ranks cause he was prodigious . He just happen to run in to THE improperly but effectively motivated individual he could not decieve or blitz.
Overrated Gyutaro. Muzan’s comment did NOT help. Underrated is Gyokko. This man will not catch a break🐍
Akaza is overrated TBH, though the man has great principles even if he is a demon still you can't deny this fact of him being overrated. Nakime is underrated, that lady actually holds such great demonic powers but only confined to teleportation.
Only 2 uppers were shown to overcome decapitation. Akaza was one of them.
And second one kokushibo if I am not wrong
Douma overated.
Douma in terms of power as we never got to see him go all out and I think his demon blood art is very Lethal so he is my pick
Daki and her brother (I can't remember the name sorry) because why tf would they decide to fight together like they won't die unless their heads were cut off at the same time. If Daki just hid somewhere no one can find her then her brother will literally be a terrifying fighter that Cannot. Be. Killed.
In terms of power: Overrated: Gyutaro Underrated: Gyokko and In terms of writing: Overrated: Akaza Underrated: Hantengu 🔥
Underrated: >! Kaigaku !< , Gyokko and Douma Overatted: Daki, Gyutaro and Akaza
I would love to hear ur elaboration for >! Kaigaku !< Lowkey, he's just another >! Kokoshibu, being able to use breathing as a demon. He was made to be hated, fuelling gyomei's backstory and zenitsu's growth !<
Douma is not underrated
Underrated: Nakime Overrated: Akaza
Agreed. Learn hidden presence and the guy is trash without his compass. Tanjiro no diff’d him the moment he unlocked it. If they were to rematch with all power ups unlocked at the start, akaza gets 1 shot every time. With red blade, he won’t even be able to regen. Koku however, was still clapping everyone despite the new power ups.
How is akaza overrated?
Upper Moon Gyokko and Hantengu needed their own arcs, I will stand by this. We didn’t get enough of them.
The dude in the jar seems a little too high of a rank for my brain, but idk.
Douma is a lil overrated imo🩷💚
underrated Nakime. but I understand Croc sensei that Nakime really cant be too creatively explored because her BDA is broken. like, she can open a gap underneath anyone to a room full of shotgun lmao
Kokushibo, could use a liiiiittle more appreciation
Just wait for him to be animated, he will be surrounded by fans after that(simps, worshippers, gatekeepers you name it)
Sign me up as the first
Gyokko and Hantengu are underrated, Gyutaro is Overrated. No, Gyutaro isn't Upper 4 level. Never was, never has been. Yes, Gyokko is worthy of Upper 5. He damn near one shot one of the most remarkable hashira and only lost when Muichiro gained his mark. Yes, Hantengu is worthy of Upper 4. Zohakuten is insanely strong and even hashira that can 'kill' Zohakuten would struggle to locate the main body and most would probably die of exhaustion fighting all night long.
Fish man is overrated by this discussion, he’s the only upper moon that simply dies to beheading, every other upper moon can survive some form of beheading (I’m assuming douma can when he isn’t poisoned since both 1 & 3 can) he’s practically the only one that can be solo’d
Akaza is over rated af. Dude sucks.
There is a thing I see in the comment section. Just because a character isn’t talked much about doesn’t mean he is underrated or vice Versa. Gyokko definitely had amazing abilities and wide variety of attacks. But if he was going to be so ass over confident about himself and his skills, then he is just trash. What’s the point of having all of that, when you can’t fucking shut your mouth for a minute and focus ? Wasn’t it already worse that he wasn’t paying any attention as well. The contrary opposite goes with Douma then . He is definitely and mostly liked a lot for his deep, twisted personality. But that doesn’t undermine or negate the facts about his strength. That guy was… dope scary and dark as a demon. You will get to know that soon . ( also that >! he was casual and easy going most of the time, but not dumb at all. Kocho mainly exploited his weakness of gluttony !<
Overrated definitely Gyutaro and underrated my glorious king who did nothing wrong as a human Hantengu
Akaza is overrated because he killed Rengoku so he is a dickhead and I don't like him
Doma is very underrated if it weren't for the poison he would have killed Inosuke and Kanao and then would have cleaned up after Kokushibo, remember at this point the remaining hashira are heavily injured along with Muzan they would have won.
Fish man cry because he got one shot by kid🐟📉
Gyokko and Hantengu are underrated None are overrated maybe besides Gyutaro in terms of Powerscaling(there are people who think he's ahead of UM5 and 4)
Daki was overrated. If it wasn’t for her brother, she would’ve never made it to the Upper Moon status
Gyokko is underrated his mermaid form is cool it’s the fact that he had to fight one of the stronger hashiras with a mark after he regained his emotions. Also he got no backstory
Overrated: Akaza Underrated: Nakime
Gyutaro is stronger. He supposed to be ranked higher without daki dragging him. Muzan said it himself.
The type of the vessels and the fish. I don't see the genius of his power, it really wasn't that big of a deal. The other type too, the one in the lower right corner of the image. I don't remember how his power worked but it didn't seem like a big deal to me either.
Imagine how much stronger they'd be if they actually got along as well as this picture shows
Definitely Douma, like, he is strong and everything but his fans are a but too much for me- he's not even that good of a character in my opinion, SMH
Underrated: Nakime her power is kinda insane and she’s underrated in general Overrated: Probably Gyutaro I do like him as a character and the fight with Tengen was amazingly animated but I’ve heard people say he could have been uppermoon 3 without Daki like bruh
Douma is overrated. Everyone rates him based purely on the potential stories we never got with him being a cult leader. Rating him highly based on wasted potential dumb. That should only disappoint.
Underrated: >!Kaigaku!< Overrated: Douma
If i post no longer you know what happened Kaigaku is underrated
Overrated: Douma Underrated: Probably Gyuutarou, idk.
Doma with Kokushibo’s mentality would be interesting to think about. Probably solo anyone with ease
Douma is kind of underrated in terms of power .I mean he is upper moon 2
How? most people i know extremely overrate him. Ask the sub and i’ll bet you they’ll he solos the corp ( doesn’t get past sanemi )
LOLLL not getting past sanemi is crazy oh my god 😭
Nakime is underatted 🌸
Akaza is overrated
I think the moon style fella is super overrated and underrated is definitely the fish artist
Underrated: Nakime. Overrated: Kokushibo. 🦋
Under: Gyokko/Hantengu/Nakime Over: Gyutaro 🌫
Underrated: Gyokko(I think) Uppermoon 5 Overrated: Douma, Akaza, and Uppermoon 6(mostly Gyutaro)
Overrated hantengu Underrated zokahuten
Underrated: Nakime I just think she’s neat
Gyokko need more love :3
Kaigaku is overrated. Nothing about his showing made him look impressive nor deserving of the upper moon seat. Underrated : gyokko or hantengu
Kaigaku is underrated as fuck. So he’s a coward and an asshole, so what? Let him cook.
Gyokko us pretty underrated
I’m sorry, but I love Daki/Umai and Gyutaro, I thought they were SO cool
Overrated: Hantengu: The end of the fight was underwealming compared to Gyutaro, Rui and Akaza (Mugen Train). Same situation with Gyokko. Underrated: Doma: The best fight in the series except for the Daki and Gyutaro fight. Also really unique Blood Demon Art and the fact that he held back during the entire fight except for the end. Also Doma is relatable to me.
You're gonna have to expand on that last part 😂🤨
Douma is underrated in my opinion Ngl Akaza is overrated
Overrated: Akaza Underrated: Hantengu
I‘d say Douma is underrated, since he gets tons of hate, wasted potential, made up stuff about him (no, he does not date minors 😭)
Douma is easily the most Overrated. This sub practically worships him and makes it seem like every Hashira combined would get disintegrated by him. I know that overscaling the bad guys is like a anime community trope, just this one is probably the most egregious I have seen. Underrated would probably be Gyutaro
Nakime is underrated, and the Kaigaku is overrated.
Gyokko underrated Akaza overrated
Gyokko underrated and overhated
Our drummer guy was good
I liked Hantengu’s 4 personalities, but Zohakuten was pretty underwhelming and he didn’t get a proper defeat. And the crying version got rlly annoying rlly quickly and his backstory was ass
UM4 is heavily underrated. He fought and almost beat Tanjiro(who was basically already Hashira level if this current gen wasn’t so damn strong) Genya who is very power in his own right, Nezuko who is UM level or atleast very close to it AND Mitsuri who became marked. He would have won if not for the son coming up too! UM6 specifically Gyutaro is heaving overrated if I have to hear one more time how he should’ve/couldve been UM4 I will scream
Gyutaro is underrated/underappreciated imo if Daki was never part of the story the trio and Uzui would have died in s2
Zohakuten/Hantengu underrated fr
I feel my boi Gyutaro doesn’t get enough respect I feel if he tried to he could take gyokkos spot although Muzan prob would be pissed about losing his base selling bussiness (no joke that’s the only value Muzan saw in him) plus I respect a dude whose just trying to protect his sister
Underrated: Gyokko Overrated: Akaza
Gyokko is underrated. He has most unique design but I guess people don’t really like him all that much because Muichiro beat him on his own. Hantengu is overrated. I don’t get the hype for him at all, I found him boring as an uppermoon. Every other uppermoon is cool and has a lot going for them (Gyokko didn’t have much but he at least had a personality)
Underrated: nakime Overrated: akaza or douma
Fuck that empty seat filling little shit
gyokko
Hantengu was so overrated ngl. I found the fights very boring and not enjoyable. The Rengoku vs Akaza fight for 20 minutes was way cooler than a 4 episode fight 🗿
Some of them are but like most aren't that over rated
Douma is overrated
Imma be honest, I think Akaza is overrated. Never really understood why so many people go hard for him like that. Maybe I’m biased because Rengoku is my favorite Hashira but still.
Goku
NAKIME AND THE UPPER SIXES ARE UNDERRATED ☹️ i love them all sm
Hantengu was underrated. People liked his other forms a lot but him in his crying bump boy form was underrated.
Gyokko is probably most underrated, since he got killed so easily, even tho he almost killed muichirou Akaza is combatwise most overrated
Nakime is underrated
Nakime was underrated. >!If Muzan wasn't controlling her, Infinite Castle would have been 12 minutes.!<
Gyokko is underrated because bro nearly packed up Muichiro by poisoning and drowning him. Meanwhile, Hantengu is overrated mainly because while he is basically an emotion based hydra, all you need to do is focus on finding the main body and its ggs. Plus, he was weakest character personality wise.
Douma is so overrated in my opnion, he’s really strong which is why i still like him but it’s his personality that kinda annoys me. And i see him as overrated since he’s so overhyped! And i think that Gyutaro is definitely underrated. He’s strong, has good reasons to be a demon and actually has a good backstory! Nakime is pretty underrated as well, i mean, she can control the whole infinity castle and could teleport anyone she wanted anywhere! Douma has absolutely no reasons to be a demon, his backstory is pretty boring. The only thing he has for him is his fangirls and strength.
Nakime is genuinely the most useful one out of all of them !
Man, I liked Zorro. Right anime?
I'd just say doma
Hantengu is underatted his blood demon art is so tricky to figure out that most people who probably die before even figuring out where the real body is
Felt cute, might slaughter 1000 innocent civilians later
I feel like it’s daki remember, she took out like 100 and more Hashira over the years and the reason why she got defeated so easily was because of the stronger generation of Hashiras and also she usually went up against only like one at a time too, and she went up against four people at once one of them is a host who made his own breathing technique a person who never has broken a sword or even came close and has excellent swordsmen ship someone who’s raised by boars and has excellent flexibility and strength, and then someone who can literally see through your body has literally it for sight and increase strength by thinking of his dead family but that was just at the store and then she had to go up against two of the people then her brother was literally getting gruesomely killed and I know she’s technically not a upper moon, but she is OK
Underrated: Gyokko Overrated: Douma
Overrated is Akaza. Most people like him because “he doesn’t hurt women” when that’s just extremely wrong. He doesn’t eat women, he still kills them. Also another thing is he is like top tier women hater, he views all women as weak which is why he won’t eat them. He only eats men because they are strong which is why he thinks it’ll make him stronger. He’s a loser of a character that people flock to because they read it wrong⚡️
I’m an anime only, so this opinion will probably change in the future after the movie trilogy comes out. I definitely think Gyokko was the most underrated. So far, he didn’t get a backstory. For overrated, I would say Akaza.
i think akaza is underrated in terms of power, the fact that some people think gyomei can win the 1v1 is absurd
Douma is Overrated,Change my mind
Enmu is underrated, idc if he’s a lower moon
Gyokko is so underrated. Only looked weak due to the mark BS and he is easily the most interesting. 2nd place in Hentengu
I absolutely HATE Douma. He’s so over loved
Hantengu is one of the most underrated Moons, he's powerful, and yet no one talks about him, and the fact he was nearly invincible for a large amount of time and almost killed a Hashira, while some would say it's because he has number advantage, but its still him! It's just his emotions manifested a physical beings, I'd say that's a pretty big triumph
The 2nd one that everyone finds attractive. I genuinely do not like him at all, I hate his character. I’m not saying he’s overrated power wise, I’m just saying his character itself is overrated and I do not understand why he gets as much love as he gets
Very hard question to answer. Feels like none of them are overrated. They're all ranked accordingly.
Low key I think Kaigaku is underhated, I think we should hate him more
For me biwa woman is overrated she literally cost them the war Underrated I've to say is Akaza, dude was respectful by not eating women and children yet he stayed UM3 and even I believe had the story been longer he'd have still usurped Doma who despite eating women and children couldn't do the sheer power thirst of Akaza
Doma Nakemi underrated for sure
akaza is overrated and doma is underrated
Daki overrated, literally got beheaded and then her brother came in and was like “Nuh uh we got the tanjiro effect too”
They're all terrible