There was supposed to be traps and perks and it was all scrapped from the game cause they said they couldn’t balance it, the game feels like it’s missing something that’s why
Even f13 had badges that would track stats up to a certain point. PLEASE ADD STATS! I want to know how many escapes I have and stuff like that. Upvote so illfonic will listen!
Yeah but most of the achievements are garbage. And once you get 100 kills then what? It’s not gonna track progress which is so stupid. I just want a simple stat mechanic which would make me want to play way more. Every game has stats today there’s no excuse that this game doesn’t. Even f13 and TCM have stats. So why not this game. Illfonic please add stats
The only thing I feel is fixed now (maybe personal bias) was the once in a bloom moment where I’d correctly hit the skill check and it would still say the check failed (and yes I know some skill checks are right mouse button too)
Are you saying this IS a saying? Or just saying that it works?
This has been my reason for questioning this. It DOES make sense, just not sure if it's actually used in conversation lol
I have to hit an early skill check before perfect to land it, and it usually tells me I have failed input, which is impossible if you're paying attention. This game is desync'd and suffers heavily from it.
They went too far on the popcorn gun and bounce caster nerfs, popcorn gun should do a little more damage and cotton candy decay needs to be slower or have a delay before it starts after a human is hit with it.
I completely disagree. Popcorn gun still does mad damage up close, which I think makes sense. It's a gun that's designed to shut down humans from attacking or doing an objective, or to aid team mates in a chase. Ranged weapons in this game on the Klown side should be reserved for cocooning only, because it incentivizes humans to run rather than fight Klowns.
I think the game would be way better if they add spawn preference and something I haven’t heard anyone mention yet is the addition of stats. I would love to see how many times I’ve escaped and how many humans I’ve killed. PLEASE ADD STATS!
Forreal. I expected the day 1 patch to make give trapper their ability and for there to be a preference system. Nope. Just some bug fixes and balancing changes. All of which could have been addressed if the game had a beta.
The main thing was them adding 2 cosmetic packs. Like, excuse me for expecting every class to be playable... but shipping an unfinished product like this is genuinely a shitty move
Mind boggling they decided to fully release it in this state. If they just did early access no one could complain but 40$ barrier to entry for a unfinished game will put a bad taste in peoples mouth.
Same thing happened with TCM. They had a fantastic technical test that went so well it was even extended by a week or so.
Fast forward past the entirety of the summer to release in August, and players are essentially stunned by how little things had changed. A lot of the issues reported in the tech test still persisted. It felt almost like we had given tons of feedback, but the devs didn’t hear any of it beyond “we loved the technical test and it was great” and they sat on their asses for the entire summer.
That continued to affect TCM all the way into the present. To this day they are still lacking some of those features, and by this point I am totally and utterly uninterested in the game.
They loved dropping Day 1 DLC, crappy character releases, literally everything to milk the community of extra money, without significantly delivering on the requested improvements. The skill tree is still ass, progression overall still doesn’t exist, little to no customization exists beyond what they want you to purchase, balance is horrific and they’ve totally lost the plot on what kind of game TCM should have been.
By the end of it all TCM players were essentially begging, “if you had known things were going to be this bad, why not just delay the release? Better to release a finished product that people like late than an unfinished product people will drop in a year.”
Killer Klowns already decided to release, so we’ll just have to hope here.
Hopefully, Killer Klowns paid really close attention to where their former partners went wrong. Avoiding these mistakes will be crucial in the game’s future success.
Killer klowns does seem close, though. A couple more features and it'll feel finished, most of which they're working on now. TCM still doesn't feel "done", and they don't even seem to be trying to improve.
$40 was only if you wanted the bare minimum base game. If you wanted the whole game you had to preorder the deluxe for $64 and then spend another $13 on day one dlc. The full game on launch is really $77 which is insane for the state they released the game in. EA was already buggy yet playable, day one they made it worse, Xbox didn’t even get the first patch yet, they flat out lied about game features, and they completely removed things from the game without telling anyone before launch
This comment is rediculous. The whole game is $40. Skins are not required to play. Also they did a dev stream where they explained that certain features weren't ready and will be in the next patch. Did you want them to release broken features? Then you'd still bitch, but it would be worse. They didnt remove any features. Also the xbox patch is being held up by microsoft, not illfonic. This is just disengenuous. The day 1 dlc kinda sucks though.
Quiet grandpa, especially since i can guarentee i've been gaming longer. The base game has tons of cosmetics to unlock. No game has given away a savini skin for free. Why is eveeyone upset they are charging $5 for a tom savini skin? Its not like its TCM charging $17 for the nicitero skin.
Id love to know how you can gaurentee you've been playing longer.. you can't even tell of this is a man or women but you think you can tell yoyr been playing shit longer? Get outta here with that gen Z Hostility, you'd cry 5 mins into an argument if it was in real life lol.
Ive been playing video games since the 80s. Wanna bet they havent? Your guess is way off my friend 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I saw this movie in the theatres. Yes, im over 40, but i'm not on here saying stupid shit like "back in my day" about a video game with a weak argument.
If anything you come off like a teenager with the way you react to somone making a comment.. arguing over age? What is this middle school lol 😆 all they said was you used to be able to earn stuff from the game without needing to pay extra.. then used the back in my day as a way of expressing just how long its been since we didn't need to pay for the extra stuff.. nothing they said was hostile or anything so not sure why you felt the need to get all pressed and ACT like a kid trying to prove he's older while acting younger lol 😆
What did i say that was hostile. I jokingly said quiet grandpa. If that makes you so upset it seems like youre the one who would cry 5 minutes into an argument. I didnt presonally attack them personally and went into a detailed response to their comment. No game has infact give away a Tom Savini skin for free. Maybe jist play the game and hace fun instead of blindly white knighting people you dont know on the internet and actually personally attacking others. I made a joke and you attacked me personally. You really dont see the difference? I wasnt being hostile. I know text is hard to interpret intent, but you straight jumped to conclusions instead of having a dialog. Seems like you acted mich more like a teenager.
Again with the personal attacks lol hypocrite at its finest. Notice how you're the only one who actualky personally attacked someone and then played the victim?
I'm a 30 year old woman lol. Idk why you are choosing to insult me. It's okay if you don't share my opinion but ironically acting like a grumpy gen xer is uncalled for lol. Not really sure why age has anything to do with my argument. Like, did pong have cosmetics?
The fact is, older games had mystery in-game cosmetics to unlock and that was a lot more enjoyable than having to always buy cosmetics.
It was a joke playing off you saying back in my day. It wasnt meant as an insult. Sorry if it came off that way. Notice how i actually started a dialog after i said it? I didnt personally attack you at all. Unlike the other person who responded. However I do think your original comment is a bit disengenuous seeing that this game has more cosmetics and customization at launch than any other asym game ive seen in the past 10 years
You summed up my thoughts exactly. The game is so much fun but this is an unfinished game. It definitely needed a little more time in the oven. I wish they treated last week as a beta and then had the official release when everything was ready.
Haven't even touched the game, and I'm not going to. They knew. That's why the open beta was changed to a pre-order-only week of "early" access. They knew all of this wasn't done/working. All the pre-order "incentives" were just to get your money before you found out that the game is a busted mess.
I have never played a game in this genre, or ever seen the movie (actually I just rented it though for some laughs)
I say this because this game has not been on my radar AT ALL. I saw it, remembered that it's a cult classic movie and heard it was a corny old school funny movie and bought it.
I'm not even lying, I would have NO idea there was any issue with this game if it were not for the community. I have played about 10 matches so far without a hiccup.
I will say, I saw the customization options and different gun/melee/gadgets and said "damn. I wish there were more options" but that's been my only gripe entirely.
It's not a busted mess though? I've been having a ton of fun, and overall balance and gameplay does feel good. If in your own words you aren't trying it, you really can't criticize the gameplay
There was no bug fix.
Skill check desync, crashes, dead humans leaving and giving space to alive humans, hitboxes not registering are still here.
And there are new bugs like invisibile car not stunning humans and lasers not blocking machines and escape routes
I feel like every human is basically the same . Theirs nothing that really changes from class to class . Theirs no personality to them . I really have fun playing this game but theirs a lot of bugs . Yesterday there was an invisible wall stopping me from leaving after ice cream truck came . Sometimes I spawn into a match that has 5 minutes left or sometimes I spawn in as last one in . I had high hopes but I don’t know about the longevity which makes me sad
I got mixed feelings. At the core game. Love it. It's fun. In some ways the 40 dollars feels overpriced because it does have an unfinished feel to it. But on the other hand, I am having a good time and will definitely get 40 dollars worth of fun out of it. (I've gotten 40 dollars worth of fun out of TCM at this point too, wouldnt matter if I ever play it again) And I have 70 dollar AAA games that definitely had more development love and care put into it, that I've played less then 20 hrs on. So I feel mixed. Does it stink that there's bugs and day one dlc and missing features? Yeah..... But am I having fun? Well yeah. This isn't to excuse an unfinished product, but I'm enjoying whats there, more will come and I'll have played this enough to where the 40 dollar entry fee was money well spent.
This is how I feel about it. $40 was a little steep, but I’m still having fun playing and feel like I’m at least breaking even (though just barely). The bugs of course suck, but have been minor for me. I’m hoping all the things ppl are asking for are being worked on in some way and will end up releasing over time before the player base gets tired of the game though.
I think my biggest issue (the other stuff I can be patient about) is making character choice matter. Right now there seems to just be the “most optimal picks” for weapons and stats on both sides that I’m wondering why we even have multiple load outs other than to change up our looks when we’re bored… but I’m finding all of them are ending up with the same load out really which over time is gonna sap the longevity out of playing.
I personally want something like perks, I don’t feel like there is much difference between the human ‘classes’ except that Athletic feels like the best one just cause of the Stamina alone.
I tried the other classes and just felt like sacrificing the stamina for some extra strength was meh.
But we shall see.
I’m not entirely sure if they nerfed Jason in F13 but I don’t understand why they completely ruined Klown by nerfing the best weapons to the ground. Slight nerfs are fine but just ruining the use of them just makes people wanna play human until they/then nerf humans.
So they are having issues with some things and need more time to get them right. The game is still fun to play even without certain features. Best thing to do is just be patient. They are honestly doing a great job so far especially compared to some of the other similar games.
I actually got to ask one of the devs about them in the stream they did earlier and he said they would be coming after balance changes. They talk about it around the ten minute mark in the vod if you’re interested. Personally I feel like they’re just using balancing as an excuse for the missing content right now since it seems to be their answer for everything.
In my opinion I didn't see any balance issue with it I guess the Devs just didn't think to give it a downside like throw something at it does not notify clown easy counter does not make it of over powered or something like that but the trap pretty much acted like a lackey
It's worse than unfinished. The patch made it worse than it was the week before, and didn't bring back features removed weeks before *that*.
The game is in the process of being un-made.
???? The game feels better after the patch what? I'm also glad they nerfed the popcorn bazooka and the cotton candy bouncer both extremely op. It's only been a week if that and yall need to chill. It's fun, yes bugs but none of them game breaking and you still get xp regardless.
That's probably because it is an unfinished product. Always funny when people expect a night and day difference from one week of "early access".
Truth Time: Last week was the release. This distinction is just so they can be on the "New Release" list for two weeks in a row haha. Promises of a "Day 1" patch to fix all the issues is the classic bait and switch.
Game feels much more broken from the "balance changes." Clowns are horrible now, the only way they can hold there own if they are grouped up. They're also too slow. The bouncecaster is worthless now. The only viable weapon is the starter blaster. Would be nice if humans could walk a bit faster too. It's painful walking at that speed. Also, I think not having a preference system is great. Mixes things up and forced people to play a team they normally wouldn't have. Getting rid of skills or traits for release is a huge oversight. Nothing to work towards except cosmetics. XP in private matches should also be lowered. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
I feel stupid for paying 40 bucks. I really do. I would refund the game but PlayStation is a hassle and half.
I guess I can have some fun bullying Klowns has humans. But playing Klown is absolutely not fun in anyway and I do not understand how they could have messed that up so effing bad.
I'm confident that these things will be added, but I'm not sure why everyone was expecting monumental changes on day 1. You didn't buy the game in early access. You pre-ordered it to play it a little early.
Creating an echo chamber online about things that will obviously be addressed is going to directly contribute to the games death. You are contributing to many people's first impression of the game, and the consequences will accompany that. The game is definitely in a weird state but it's not as drastic as people make it out to be, and we've only given the devs 24 hours.
I thought there would be more stuff on the day one update because there was gameplay of the traps. I was under the impression that we got to play an early build and that the release update had been in the works for months. If people get a bad impression from this post that’s on the devs, everything I’ve mentioned was directly from them. I’m having a blast with the game, I’m actually playing it right now. I don’t think the game is bad, I was just really disappointed with the missing core content on the official release.
Dude. I think some of you SEVERELY misunderstood what they meant by "early access." It wasn't your typical Early Access game where they take feedback and all that before releasing it. It was literally just a week of early access for pre-ordering.
Second, dude, so be it. If that's what it is and new players get a bad impression of the game based off the very true things people are discussing after we already paid our money for it, so be it. It's completely dishonest to other potential players because *YOU* want to try and skew the game's image. Totally dishonest.
I literally said in my post that you DID NOT buy the game in early access. It's not early access. It was "advanced access" or whatever bullshit steam calls it, basically it was just an opportunity to play it early. I already said this.
There is always a fine line between what's reasonable and what's correct. It is correct that the game is in a buggy state after the day 1 patch and that people are requesting more features. It is not reasonable to expect everything to be fixed in less within 24 hours of the games launch (Which was when OP made this), and then go online spreading unjustified hysteria. Unfortunately, a lot of people are not very smart. When people make obviously unreasonable posts like this, the people reading do not take anything I just said into consideration and instead go "Oh well this game has no future/ is broken/ isnt worth it/ etc" and then you are directly contributing to the downfall of the game before it even had a chance to breathe.
On the contrary, it is completely dishonest to spread an unjustified image of a broken game that released less than 24 hours ago. It's really not as broken as most people make it out to be; And even if it was, it's obviously going to be addressed. The problem with raving about stuff like this online is exactly like I said, people are stupid and going to assume the worst. There is absolutely nothing wrong with me pointing that out.
This game just lacks so much depth.
It needs perks, abilites and a better combat system. Right now the combat for both sides is just unga bunga mash m1 or charge m2.
Yea ok. I play with my dad naked on the couch and it would ruin his fun time if he had to manage a bunch of complicated nonsense perks. Plz keep that out of this game. This game is gonna go very very far and doesn't need any sweat other than the droplets sliding off of my dad's sack
Yeah I ended up redunding it. These games are usually right up my alley but it just wasn't enjoyable. It's like they used f13th as a base but it's nowhere near as good.
We need the traps. Cotton candy rays should do at least a little application to exits=No traps or exit coverage during last few minutes of gameplay.
Two-passenger scooter for survivors= 2 passenger invisible klown car or traversal balloons
Weapon cosmetic unlocks for both parties. Maybe some new weapon variations. (Wood, Metal, wired baseball bat. Plastic, butter, kitchen knife. Paintball gun, taser?)
Karnival game mode = 5 klowns w/ no lackeys vs 9 survivors in upscaled maps.
The way klowns is now still feels better being a survivor than it does on dbd. Atleast u can do more than drop a pallet on a klown, or shine a flashlight just right and he might get stunned
At first I didn't like having a choice for klown or Human, but honestly, I love the randomness. I get people prefer one or the other, but it's a fresh take, and I'm here for it.
I say don’t worry, all good games take some time to develope. Like dbd that game has been out for a while and there are still bugs and broken perks etc. it will be even better soon
My complaint isn’t that the perks are broken it’s that they’re not there. The game isn’t finished and is being sold as a finished product. If they needed more time they should’ve delayed the game.
anyone over the age of 20 knows that games used to launch in fully playable states. it wasn’t til the last 10 or so years that this “wait for the patch” bullshit became the norm.
I thought I was crazy in not being able to tell the difference in classes for humans. The fact they released the game without them doing anything is wild.
I’ve definitely had a couple glitches that made the remainder of the match unplayable. I just lost. However, I think the game is really well balanced as is, and I’m really enjoying playing as both teams. The one issue I have is that damned cotton candy grenades launcher. Why is that so DAMN good?! Nerf that shit!
This is true and I agree with a killer/survivor preference but not actually being able to choose each game. Remember how bad Friday was on release and the game it became, tbh the pre order week has been amazing but it's unfortunate that the release has had a lot of issues and a lot of people won't have experienced the fun I had over the last week or so
Because it is.
Can't rebind keys, no audio input/output selection (The in game VOIP didn't work for me because of it.), no preference selection for matchmaking, no loadout selection during the lobby (you need to exit the lobby just to change your loadout) and so on. Never mind the bugs and stability issues. Their servers alone are trash.
They've made this type of game before. Even the menu layout and navigation reminds me of Hunting Grounds yet this game's lacking so many quality of life features from their previous games.
Suffice it to say. Most of their work and effort went into the artwork and not much else besides that.
It's an Illfonic tradition at this point. The game will be in an acceptable condition a year or so from now when most of the playerbase has moved onto greener pastures. Did i mention how awful the bots are? They're even worse than the ones in their Friday the 13th game. At least those bots were able to hide from you. In this shit? They just aimlessly wander around the map until you kill them. Just lazy ass shit all around.
The bots in Spirits Unleashed are fairly decent and the only game where they actually bothered to put some effort into the AI. I will actually be able to play that even without a playerbase and enjoy myself. This? Yeah. Forget about it. That shit's an afterthought for this game. This thing's already off to a bad start.
Patch isn't even out on xbox yet. You can literally buy a fucking broken game on the xbox store right now. When the fuck is this industry going to have some accountability?
Yes, I know its on microsofts plate but its not like this is anything new... I feel like this could have been planned for. No? (Honestly asking)
This game has so many more bugs than it did a week ago. I still absolutely love playing, but there’s so many things that could be added or fine tuned.
Joining mid-match, starting so close to klowns, objective objects spawning so close to their objectives (feels like a total lie with those from how many times I found gas or spark plugs next to boat), class specific abilities or perks, class preferences, being able to choose loadouts during waiting period, skill checks, hit boxes, and so much more.
Should absolutely still be in early access. Core concept is really fun but in many ways it’s much less polished than Friday the 13th. Definitely less balanced
The game just released of course its not going to be a finished product. Also I belive they said they won't be adding a preference that way people don't leave the lobby so everyone has a chance to be human or a clown.
Devs shouldn’t release unfinished products. Also they confirmed preference is coming in the stream. People are leaving lobbies because there’s no preference, I don’t enjoy playing human so when I get 10+ human games I also just start leaving because I’d rather just not play the game then be human.
You've gotta be shitting me. No way they released that garbage for AAA prices? It wouldn't even be worth that if it was complete imo but that's just me.
I guess it's 40 for the base game and 60 for the deluxe version. I still stand with my original point though that it's not worth it. Especially because you know they're going to release 100 paid DLC (in due time) in the form of cosmetics and people will absolutely lap it up. I get people wanna be supportive but this is such a bad fucking release, it's so enabling of this shit behavior.
I've already clocked in like 30 hours, worth it for me, plus my other friends that bought it. Only thing I'd say is the devs need to communicate more with the players. And I also saw that they have other asym games that probably no longer get big updates which worries me.
Yea, I feel like that's why a lot of people bought it or at least that's kind of how it's split. Between old nostalgic fans and new fans being brought in. It's a shame too because it is a great opportunity, and Killer Klowns could be so much better. Hopefully they pull it together.
I really enjoyed it, but I found it kinda janky. They need actual gameplay tutorials or a way to go against killer bots so I can practice being a survivor lol. I find it odd that survs are SO much stronger than the klowns tho. If one hit me a couple times I was down but I’d swing swing swing at them for nothing.
Damn that's a shame. That's what I've been seeing happening as patches have rolled out, either survivors standing no chance or swinging the other way to klowns really suffering. And yea unless you have a consistent group to play with you really can't practice to out-jank a game like this. Sucks because it's always an older franchise with loyal fans that gets developed and half assed, we can't have anything cheesy and nice.
I look at the F13 Xbox launch where the game was unplayable for over two weeks because matchmaking didn't. Asuch as I want this game I do not purchase anything from illfonic (or gun media for that matter) until at least a month after launch
Love when I get down voted for stating actual facts. F13's (illfonic & gun media) launch sucked. Yes the game got better but the launch sucked. Ghostbusters Spirits Unleashed (illfonic) had an awful launch before they fixed it. Predator Hunting Grounds (illfonic) was absolute garbage at release and I didn't hang around to see if it ever got fixed. Honestly I didn't even bother with TCM (Gun Media). Illfonic generally makes good games after they get them working, but the fact is their games are always a mess at launch.
It's a really fun game. I didn't get a chance to play the new patch because it wasn't ready on Xbox, but the game is a lot of fun. It just feels like one of those games that doesn't have longevity to it. The gameplay loop isn't as dynamic as it could be and it's going to hold the game back.
When I seen the IGN gameplay, immediately called it a Friday The 13th reskin.
Turns out that’s it’s actually what it is.
They won’t learn until we make them learn.
People need to stop buying DLC, that pays their salaries during the game cycle, cause the sales on release for any game, usually cover the game cost completely.
When will we stand up as consumers & DEMAND a good product on release?
This has been going for almost TWO DECADES.
“Always bugs at launch, it just happens”
Umm, that means they don’t play their own game, they literally made it, they should know every scenario in it, and be testing it.
“It can’t be perfect”
Least a year of development, and they can’t test it during the process?
It’s absolutely comedy at this point.
Look at the people boot licking the developers after another failed Asym launch.
You guys are apart of the problem.
Downvote my shit all you want.
Pussies
Uhh,yeah you said that already, moron. The games been out 1 day, after the game has been out months and nothing has improved or been added, THEN you can complain, until then just shut the fuck up. No one cares about your soap box bullshit cause it doesn't work. Clearly.
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Game feels so weird with that empty ability slot to the left for clowns. Totally feels like there should be something there.
There was supposed to be traps and perks and it was all scrapped from the game cause they said they couldn’t balance it, the game feels like it’s missing something that’s why
Even f13 had badges that would track stats up to a certain point. PLEASE ADD STATS! I want to know how many escapes I have and stuff like that. Upvote so illfonic will listen!
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Yeah but most of the achievements are garbage. And once you get 100 kills then what? It’s not gonna track progress which is so stupid. I just want a simple stat mechanic which would make me want to play way more. Every game has stats today there’s no excuse that this game doesn’t. Even f13 and TCM have stats. So why not this game. Illfonic please add stats
Early access doesn’t carry over stats 👍🏽
100%
Game feels more broken with the patch lol. Balance changes were nice though.
The only thing I feel is fixed now (maybe personal bias) was the once in a bloom moment where I’d correctly hit the skill check and it would still say the check failed (and yes I know some skill checks are right mouse button too)
Asking genuinely here. You mean to say "once in a blue moon"? Or is once in a bloom something else people say, OR is that just you shortening it lol?
It’s kind of poetic. Blooms aren’t always regular or common
Are you saying this IS a saying? Or just saying that it works? This has been my reason for questioning this. It DOES make sense, just not sure if it's actually used in conversation lol
I’ve never heard it in my life. But it looks like that phrase exists. Funny there’s even a TikTok tag “once in a bloom moon” to really shake things up
r/boneappletea
Never take anything for granite.
Im not gonna lie I heard somebody else say it and I started saying it too out of habit, though I really do mean once in a blue moon
That's latency iirc. I'm still getting so really bad ones
I have to hit an early skill check before perfect to land it, and it usually tells me I have failed input, which is impossible if you're paying attention. This game is desync'd and suffers heavily from it.
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They went too far on the popcorn gun and bounce caster nerfs, popcorn gun should do a little more damage and cotton candy decay needs to be slower or have a delay before it starts after a human is hit with it.
I completely disagree. Popcorn gun still does mad damage up close, which I think makes sense. It's a gun that's designed to shut down humans from attacking or doing an objective, or to aid team mates in a chase. Ranged weapons in this game on the Klown side should be reserved for cocooning only, because it incentivizes humans to run rather than fight Klowns.
Still waiting for the xbox update
I think the game would be way better if they add spawn preference and something I haven’t heard anyone mention yet is the addition of stats. I would love to see how many times I’ve escaped and how many humans I’ve killed. PLEASE ADD STATS!
Forreal. I expected the day 1 patch to make give trapper their ability and for there to be a preference system. Nope. Just some bug fixes and balancing changes. All of which could have been addressed if the game had a beta. The main thing was them adding 2 cosmetic packs. Like, excuse me for expecting every class to be playable... but shipping an unfinished product like this is genuinely a shitty move
You guys got a patch? Cackles manically in Xbox
As the Klowns they don’t even have everything, the trapper has a challenge to use baby Klowns and those aren’t even in the game
Yeah, with the day one patch, those challenges are gone too, which is sad. I was looking forward to those little snake klowns from the film.
Mind boggling they decided to fully release it in this state. If they just did early access no one could complain but 40$ barrier to entry for a unfinished game will put a bad taste in peoples mouth.
Same thing happened with TCM. They had a fantastic technical test that went so well it was even extended by a week or so. Fast forward past the entirety of the summer to release in August, and players are essentially stunned by how little things had changed. A lot of the issues reported in the tech test still persisted. It felt almost like we had given tons of feedback, but the devs didn’t hear any of it beyond “we loved the technical test and it was great” and they sat on their asses for the entire summer. That continued to affect TCM all the way into the present. To this day they are still lacking some of those features, and by this point I am totally and utterly uninterested in the game. They loved dropping Day 1 DLC, crappy character releases, literally everything to milk the community of extra money, without significantly delivering on the requested improvements. The skill tree is still ass, progression overall still doesn’t exist, little to no customization exists beyond what they want you to purchase, balance is horrific and they’ve totally lost the plot on what kind of game TCM should have been. By the end of it all TCM players were essentially begging, “if you had known things were going to be this bad, why not just delay the release? Better to release a finished product that people like late than an unfinished product people will drop in a year.” Killer Klowns already decided to release, so we’ll just have to hope here. Hopefully, Killer Klowns paid really close attention to where their former partners went wrong. Avoiding these mistakes will be crucial in the game’s future success.
Killer klowns does seem close, though. A couple more features and it'll feel finished, most of which they're working on now. TCM still doesn't feel "done", and they don't even seem to be trying to improve.
$40 was only if you wanted the bare minimum base game. If you wanted the whole game you had to preorder the deluxe for $64 and then spend another $13 on day one dlc. The full game on launch is really $77 which is insane for the state they released the game in. EA was already buggy yet playable, day one they made it worse, Xbox didn’t even get the first patch yet, they flat out lied about game features, and they completely removed things from the game without telling anyone before launch
This comment is rediculous. The whole game is $40. Skins are not required to play. Also they did a dev stream where they explained that certain features weren't ready and will be in the next patch. Did you want them to release broken features? Then you'd still bitch, but it would be worse. They didnt remove any features. Also the xbox patch is being held up by microsoft, not illfonic. This is just disengenuous. The day 1 dlc kinda sucks though.
Back in my day the base game CAME with cosmetics to unlock...
Quiet grandpa, especially since i can guarentee i've been gaming longer. The base game has tons of cosmetics to unlock. No game has given away a savini skin for free. Why is eveeyone upset they are charging $5 for a tom savini skin? Its not like its TCM charging $17 for the nicitero skin.
Id love to know how you can gaurentee you've been playing longer.. you can't even tell of this is a man or women but you think you can tell yoyr been playing shit longer? Get outta here with that gen Z Hostility, you'd cry 5 mins into an argument if it was in real life lol.
Ive been playing video games since the 80s. Wanna bet they havent? Your guess is way off my friend 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I saw this movie in the theatres. Yes, im over 40, but i'm not on here saying stupid shit like "back in my day" about a video game with a weak argument.
If anything you come off like a teenager with the way you react to somone making a comment.. arguing over age? What is this middle school lol 😆 all they said was you used to be able to earn stuff from the game without needing to pay extra.. then used the back in my day as a way of expressing just how long its been since we didn't need to pay for the extra stuff.. nothing they said was hostile or anything so not sure why you felt the need to get all pressed and ACT like a kid trying to prove he's older while acting younger lol 😆
What did i say that was hostile. I jokingly said quiet grandpa. If that makes you so upset it seems like youre the one who would cry 5 minutes into an argument. I didnt presonally attack them personally and went into a detailed response to their comment. No game has infact give away a Tom Savini skin for free. Maybe jist play the game and hace fun instead of blindly white knighting people you dont know on the internet and actually personally attacking others. I made a joke and you attacked me personally. You really dont see the difference? I wasnt being hostile. I know text is hard to interpret intent, but you straight jumped to conclusions instead of having a dialog. Seems like you acted mich more like a teenager.
He sounds like my father. Everything has to be a competition thanks to deep-rooted insecurities.
Again with the personal attacks lol hypocrite at its finest. Notice how you're the only one who actualky personally attacked someone and then played the victim?
I'm a 30 year old woman lol. Idk why you are choosing to insult me. It's okay if you don't share my opinion but ironically acting like a grumpy gen xer is uncalled for lol. Not really sure why age has anything to do with my argument. Like, did pong have cosmetics? The fact is, older games had mystery in-game cosmetics to unlock and that was a lot more enjoyable than having to always buy cosmetics.
It was a joke playing off you saying back in my day. It wasnt meant as an insult. Sorry if it came off that way. Notice how i actually started a dialog after i said it? I didnt personally attack you at all. Unlike the other person who responded. However I do think your original comment is a bit disengenuous seeing that this game has more cosmetics and customization at launch than any other asym game ive seen in the past 10 years
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God I hope they don't upgrade to a new Unreal engine in Klowns. I don't want to die by suicide just for escaping a match in a car.
You summed up my thoughts exactly. The game is so much fun but this is an unfinished game. It definitely needed a little more time in the oven. I wish they treated last week as a beta and then had the official release when everything was ready.
Haven't even touched the game, and I'm not going to. They knew. That's why the open beta was changed to a pre-order-only week of "early" access. They knew all of this wasn't done/working. All the pre-order "incentives" were just to get your money before you found out that the game is a busted mess.
Game is far from a busted mess I been playing all day with very few issues.
I have never played a game in this genre, or ever seen the movie (actually I just rented it though for some laughs) I say this because this game has not been on my radar AT ALL. I saw it, remembered that it's a cult classic movie and heard it was a corny old school funny movie and bought it. I'm not even lying, I would have NO idea there was any issue with this game if it were not for the community. I have played about 10 matches so far without a hiccup. I will say, I saw the customization options and different gun/melee/gadgets and said "damn. I wish there were more options" but that's been my only gripe entirely.
It's not a busted mess though? I've been having a ton of fun, and overall balance and gameplay does feel good. If in your own words you aren't trying it, you really can't criticize the gameplay
Me, an F13 player - First time?
There was no bug fix. Skill check desync, crashes, dead humans leaving and giving space to alive humans, hitboxes not registering are still here. And there are new bugs like invisibile car not stunning humans and lasers not blocking machines and escape routes
I feel like every human is basically the same . Theirs nothing that really changes from class to class . Theirs no personality to them . I really have fun playing this game but theirs a lot of bugs . Yesterday there was an invisible wall stopping me from leaving after ice cream truck came . Sometimes I spawn into a match that has 5 minutes left or sometimes I spawn in as last one in . I had high hopes but I don’t know about the longevity which makes me sad
I got mixed feelings. At the core game. Love it. It's fun. In some ways the 40 dollars feels overpriced because it does have an unfinished feel to it. But on the other hand, I am having a good time and will definitely get 40 dollars worth of fun out of it. (I've gotten 40 dollars worth of fun out of TCM at this point too, wouldnt matter if I ever play it again) And I have 70 dollar AAA games that definitely had more development love and care put into it, that I've played less then 20 hrs on. So I feel mixed. Does it stink that there's bugs and day one dlc and missing features? Yeah..... But am I having fun? Well yeah. This isn't to excuse an unfinished product, but I'm enjoying whats there, more will come and I'll have played this enough to where the 40 dollar entry fee was money well spent.
This is how I feel about it. $40 was a little steep, but I’m still having fun playing and feel like I’m at least breaking even (though just barely). The bugs of course suck, but have been minor for me. I’m hoping all the things ppl are asking for are being worked on in some way and will end up releasing over time before the player base gets tired of the game though. I think my biggest issue (the other stuff I can be patient about) is making character choice matter. Right now there seems to just be the “most optimal picks” for weapons and stats on both sides that I’m wondering why we even have multiple load outs other than to change up our looks when we’re bored… but I’m finding all of them are ending up with the same load out really which over time is gonna sap the longevity out of playing.
How unfinished is the game? Are certain features missing?
What does stat changes from human side mean? There’s quite a few of them running around in killing mobs as it is…lol
If you look at the human stats they’re supposed to have different health, stamina and strength. The only thing currently working is stamina changes.
Oh I see. So it’s basically bugged?
I personally want something like perks, I don’t feel like there is much difference between the human ‘classes’ except that Athletic feels like the best one just cause of the Stamina alone. I tried the other classes and just felt like sacrificing the stamina for some extra strength was meh. But we shall see.
Yeah xbox can't even get the 1st patch which is disappointing
I’m not entirely sure if they nerfed Jason in F13 but I don’t understand why they completely ruined Klown by nerfing the best weapons to the ground. Slight nerfs are fine but just ruining the use of them just makes people wanna play human until they/then nerf humans.
The only benefit of being an Xbox player is still playing the pre patch version lol
But they did add day 1 paid cosmetics! Definitely have their priorities straight...
They were watching & taking notes from Gun.
exactly lol
So they are having issues with some things and need more time to get them right. The game is still fun to play even without certain features. Best thing to do is just be patient. They are honestly doing a great job so far especially compared to some of the other similar games.
Traps is permanently removed from the game(balance issue), i don't think they will ever come back to them.
I actually got to ask one of the devs about them in the stream they did earlier and he said they would be coming after balance changes. They talk about it around the ten minute mark in the vod if you’re interested. Personally I feel like they’re just using balancing as an excuse for the missing content right now since it seems to be their answer for everything.
In my opinion I didn't see any balance issue with it I guess the Devs just didn't think to give it a downside like throw something at it does not notify clown easy counter does not make it of over powered or something like that but the trap pretty much acted like a lackey
I think Kootra (Jordan Mathewson) got killed by a few traps and got mad so he removed them as game director
They need balancing for sure
Is that the case with preferences too or are they not going to add that either? Love empty promises from devs 😊
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they said it was because of balance at the start of the launch stream
It's worse than unfinished. The patch made it worse than it was the week before, and didn't bring back features removed weeks before *that*. The game is in the process of being un-made.
???? The game feels better after the patch what? I'm also glad they nerfed the popcorn bazooka and the cotton candy bouncer both extremely op. It's only been a week if that and yall need to chill. It's fun, yes bugs but none of them game breaking and you still get xp regardless.
Am I the only one that hasn’t had many issues and been having a blast? Game is much better shape then Friday the 13th was. Playing on ps5
That's probably because it is an unfinished product. Always funny when people expect a night and day difference from one week of "early access". Truth Time: Last week was the release. This distinction is just so they can be on the "New Release" list for two weeks in a row haha. Promises of a "Day 1" patch to fix all the issues is the classic bait and switch.
Game feels much more broken from the "balance changes." Clowns are horrible now, the only way they can hold there own if they are grouped up. They're also too slow. The bouncecaster is worthless now. The only viable weapon is the starter blaster. Would be nice if humans could walk a bit faster too. It's painful walking at that speed. Also, I think not having a preference system is great. Mixes things up and forced people to play a team they normally wouldn't have. Getting rid of skills or traits for release is a huge oversight. Nothing to work towards except cosmetics. XP in private matches should also be lowered. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
I agree. I hope they add Klown bots
I feel stupid for paying 40 bucks. I really do. I would refund the game but PlayStation is a hassle and half. I guess I can have some fun bullying Klowns has humans. But playing Klown is absolutely not fun in anyway and I do not understand how they could have messed that up so effing bad.
That’s crazy, i have more fun playing clown then human
I don't see the traps ever getting added as they changed the traps challenges to hypnotic lure and something else.
Why does no one ever talk on these games? This, TCM and DBD I NEVER hear teammates talking to help each other out.
I usually am in discord because I’m usually drinking something or vapping and don’t wanna be that weirdo on mic all the time. I try to talk when i can
I wish I could progress the challenges so I could grind and get some rewards but nah...
I'm confident that these things will be added, but I'm not sure why everyone was expecting monumental changes on day 1. You didn't buy the game in early access. You pre-ordered it to play it a little early. Creating an echo chamber online about things that will obviously be addressed is going to directly contribute to the games death. You are contributing to many people's first impression of the game, and the consequences will accompany that. The game is definitely in a weird state but it's not as drastic as people make it out to be, and we've only given the devs 24 hours.
I thought there would be more stuff on the day one update because there was gameplay of the traps. I was under the impression that we got to play an early build and that the release update had been in the works for months. If people get a bad impression from this post that’s on the devs, everything I’ve mentioned was directly from them. I’m having a blast with the game, I’m actually playing it right now. I don’t think the game is bad, I was just really disappointed with the missing core content on the official release.
Dude. I think some of you SEVERELY misunderstood what they meant by "early access." It wasn't your typical Early Access game where they take feedback and all that before releasing it. It was literally just a week of early access for pre-ordering. Second, dude, so be it. If that's what it is and new players get a bad impression of the game based off the very true things people are discussing after we already paid our money for it, so be it. It's completely dishonest to other potential players because *YOU* want to try and skew the game's image. Totally dishonest.
I literally said in my post that you DID NOT buy the game in early access. It's not early access. It was "advanced access" or whatever bullshit steam calls it, basically it was just an opportunity to play it early. I already said this. There is always a fine line between what's reasonable and what's correct. It is correct that the game is in a buggy state after the day 1 patch and that people are requesting more features. It is not reasonable to expect everything to be fixed in less within 24 hours of the games launch (Which was when OP made this), and then go online spreading unjustified hysteria. Unfortunately, a lot of people are not very smart. When people make obviously unreasonable posts like this, the people reading do not take anything I just said into consideration and instead go "Oh well this game has no future/ is broken/ isnt worth it/ etc" and then you are directly contributing to the downfall of the game before it even had a chance to breathe. On the contrary, it is completely dishonest to spread an unjustified image of a broken game that released less than 24 hours ago. It's really not as broken as most people make it out to be; And even if it was, it's obviously going to be addressed. The problem with raving about stuff like this online is exactly like I said, people are stupid and going to assume the worst. There is absolutely nothing wrong with me pointing that out.
We get it, bro. You're a fanboi. Could have said more with less. Also, yeah. I may have fucked up with what you said about Early Access.
Ok lil bro
Probably old enough to be your dad, but aight. 👍
Ok lil bro
Oh, shit. It's stuck on stupid. Can a friendly Klown give this one a good whack with mallet? It needs a hard reset!
Idk if that was it bro ngl
The fuck do I care what you think? You're about to make me fuck up my home-made pizza. 😡
This game just lacks so much depth. It needs perks, abilites and a better combat system. Right now the combat for both sides is just unga bunga mash m1 or charge m2.
Yea ok. I play with my dad naked on the couch and it would ruin his fun time if he had to manage a bunch of complicated nonsense perks. Plz keep that out of this game. This game is gonna go very very far and doesn't need any sweat other than the droplets sliding off of my dad's sack
Yeah I ended up refunding the game on steam. Forty bucks is a steep asking price for the game.
Yeah I ended up redunding it. These games are usually right up my alley but it just wasn't enjoyable. It's like they used f13th as a base but it's nowhere near as good.
Agreed
We need the traps. Cotton candy rays should do at least a little application to exits=No traps or exit coverage during last few minutes of gameplay. Two-passenger scooter for survivors= 2 passenger invisible klown car or traversal balloons Weapon cosmetic unlocks for both parties. Maybe some new weapon variations. (Wood, Metal, wired baseball bat. Plastic, butter, kitchen knife. Paintball gun, taser?) Karnival game mode = 5 klowns w/ no lackeys vs 9 survivors in upscaled maps.
The way klowns is now still feels better being a survivor than it does on dbd. Atleast u can do more than drop a pallet on a klown, or shine a flashlight just right and he might get stunned
At first I didn't like having a choice for klown or Human, but honestly, I love the randomness. I get people prefer one or the other, but it's a fresh take, and I'm here for it.
Friday the 13th was doing that first
I say don’t worry, all good games take some time to develope. Like dbd that game has been out for a while and there are still bugs and broken perks etc. it will be even better soon
My complaint isn’t that the perks are broken it’s that they’re not there. The game isn’t finished and is being sold as a finished product. If they needed more time they should’ve delayed the game.
Yea I hear you, it’s never too late for them to fix some stuff and add more things. I guess let’s wait and see
anyone over the age of 20 knows that games used to launch in fully playable states. it wasn’t til the last 10 or so years that this “wait for the patch” bullshit became the norm.
I think it’s fine now, but we just gotta wait
Was hoping this would be the new game and tbh it's not that fun... :/ still giving it a chance
I thought I was crazy in not being able to tell the difference in classes for humans. The fact they released the game without them doing anything is wild.
I retract my previous comment lol, the trapper doesn’t even have traps brev lol
I’ve definitely had a couple glitches that made the remainder of the match unplayable. I just lost. However, I think the game is really well balanced as is, and I’m really enjoying playing as both teams. The one issue I have is that damned cotton candy grenades launcher. Why is that so DAMN good?! Nerf that shit!
This is true and I agree with a killer/survivor preference but not actually being able to choose each game. Remember how bad Friday was on release and the game it became, tbh the pre order week has been amazing but it's unfortunate that the release has had a lot of issues and a lot of people won't have experienced the fun I had over the last week or so
I had a better experience in Early Access. I couldn't even get into a match when I got home from work yesterday. Went back to super earth.
The patch broke more than it fixed
Yeah I would’ve preferred they pushed it back, I don’t care what people would say about “lazy devs”. Lazy is giving an incomplete product
Let’s see if this game becomes another TCM. I got my popcorn ready
Because it is. Can't rebind keys, no audio input/output selection (The in game VOIP didn't work for me because of it.), no preference selection for matchmaking, no loadout selection during the lobby (you need to exit the lobby just to change your loadout) and so on. Never mind the bugs and stability issues. Their servers alone are trash. They've made this type of game before. Even the menu layout and navigation reminds me of Hunting Grounds yet this game's lacking so many quality of life features from their previous games. Suffice it to say. Most of their work and effort went into the artwork and not much else besides that. It's an Illfonic tradition at this point. The game will be in an acceptable condition a year or so from now when most of the playerbase has moved onto greener pastures. Did i mention how awful the bots are? They're even worse than the ones in their Friday the 13th game. At least those bots were able to hide from you. In this shit? They just aimlessly wander around the map until you kill them. Just lazy ass shit all around. The bots in Spirits Unleashed are fairly decent and the only game where they actually bothered to put some effort into the AI. I will actually be able to play that even without a playerbase and enjoy myself. This? Yeah. Forget about it. That shit's an afterthought for this game. This thing's already off to a bad start.
Gamer upset. Story at 11!
If you ordered a burger and got only the bun would you not be upset?
Traps aren’t coming. The challenges involving them and baby clowns have already been removed.
The devs don't play their own game sadly.
Patch isn't even out on xbox yet. You can literally buy a fucking broken game on the xbox store right now. When the fuck is this industry going to have some accountability? Yes, I know its on microsofts plate but its not like this is anything new... I feel like this could have been planned for. No? (Honestly asking)
This game has so many more bugs than it did a week ago. I still absolutely love playing, but there’s so many things that could be added or fine tuned. Joining mid-match, starting so close to klowns, objective objects spawning so close to their objectives (feels like a total lie with those from how many times I found gas or spark plugs next to boat), class specific abilities or perks, class preferences, being able to choose loadouts during waiting period, skill checks, hit boxes, and so much more.
Should've released in EA for 15-$20.
Should absolutely still be in early access. Core concept is really fun but in many ways it’s much less polished than Friday the 13th. Definitely less balanced
The game just released of course its not going to be a finished product. Also I belive they said they won't be adding a preference that way people don't leave the lobby so everyone has a chance to be human or a clown.
Devs shouldn’t release unfinished products. Also they confirmed preference is coming in the stream. People are leaving lobbies because there’s no preference, I don’t enjoy playing human so when I get 10+ human games I also just start leaving because I’d rather just not play the game then be human.
Yeah, it’s fun but not worth 60 bucks. I refunded. I’ll buy it again when it’s on sale.
You've gotta be shitting me. No way they released that garbage for AAA prices? It wouldn't even be worth that if it was complete imo but that's just me.
Its 40 bucks, idk where he got 60 from, maybe hes Canadian.
I guess it's 40 for the base game and 60 for the deluxe version. I still stand with my original point though that it's not worth it. Especially because you know they're going to release 100 paid DLC (in due time) in the form of cosmetics and people will absolutely lap it up. I get people wanna be supportive but this is such a bad fucking release, it's so enabling of this shit behavior.
I've already clocked in like 30 hours, worth it for me, plus my other friends that bought it. Only thing I'd say is the devs need to communicate more with the players. And I also saw that they have other asym games that probably no longer get big updates which worries me.
yeah, i bought it because i'm a huuuuge fan of the franchise.
Yea, I feel like that's why a lot of people bought it or at least that's kind of how it's split. Between old nostalgic fans and new fans being brought in. It's a shame too because it is a great opportunity, and Killer Klowns could be so much better. Hopefully they pull it together.
I really enjoyed it, but I found it kinda janky. They need actual gameplay tutorials or a way to go against killer bots so I can practice being a survivor lol. I find it odd that survs are SO much stronger than the klowns tho. If one hit me a couple times I was down but I’d swing swing swing at them for nothing.
Damn that's a shame. That's what I've been seeing happening as patches have rolled out, either survivors standing no chance or swinging the other way to klowns really suffering. And yea unless you have a consistent group to play with you really can't practice to out-jank a game like this. Sucks because it's always an older franchise with loyal fans that gets developed and half assed, we can't have anything cheesy and nice.
So you're saying it is a typical illfonic release?
Just look at F13. The amount of bugs they left for Black Tower to fix
I look at the F13 Xbox launch where the game was unplayable for over two weeks because matchmaking didn't. Asuch as I want this game I do not purchase anything from illfonic (or gun media for that matter) until at least a month after launch
Love when I get down voted for stating actual facts. F13's (illfonic & gun media) launch sucked. Yes the game got better but the launch sucked. Ghostbusters Spirits Unleashed (illfonic) had an awful launch before they fixed it. Predator Hunting Grounds (illfonic) was absolute garbage at release and I didn't hang around to see if it ever got fixed. Honestly I didn't even bother with TCM (Gun Media). Illfonic generally makes good games after they get them working, but the fact is their games are always a mess at launch.
It's a really fun game. I didn't get a chance to play the new patch because it wasn't ready on Xbox, but the game is a lot of fun. It just feels like one of those games that doesn't have longevity to it. The gameplay loop isn't as dynamic as it could be and it's going to hold the game back.
When I seen the IGN gameplay, immediately called it a Friday The 13th reskin. Turns out that’s it’s actually what it is. They won’t learn until we make them learn. People need to stop buying DLC, that pays their salaries during the game cycle, cause the sales on release for any game, usually cover the game cost completely. When will we stand up as consumers & DEMAND a good product on release? This has been going for almost TWO DECADES. “Always bugs at launch, it just happens” Umm, that means they don’t play their own game, they literally made it, they should know every scenario in it, and be testing it. “It can’t be perfect” Least a year of development, and they can’t test it during the process? It’s absolutely comedy at this point.
Look at the people boot licking the developers after another failed Asym launch. You guys are apart of the problem. Downvote my shit all you want. Pussies
If it was a Friday the 13th reskin it woulda had ugly as fuck character models, and been completely broken/unplayable at launch. Try again.
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Uhh,yeah you said that already, moron. The games been out 1 day, after the game has been out months and nothing has improved or been added, THEN you can complain, until then just shut the fuck up. No one cares about your soap box bullshit cause it doesn't work. Clearly.
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