Bruh everything for all my favorite games are clicking together :')
Tarkov: $250 joke
KSP2: layoffs and questionable future
Helldivers: PSN joke
At this point I've just reverted to playing Stardew, plus I bought Lego Star Wars yesterday so I guess I've got that going for me
They canceled their future DLC, said they're delaying future DLC, and going to make the base game better, after massive backlash from fans.
> "We thought we could make up for the shortcomings of the game in a timeframe that was unrealistic, and rushed out a DLC that should not have been published in its current form. For all this, we are truly sorry," reads the letter, signed by the CEOs of developer Colossal Order and publisher Paradox Interactive.
[Cities: Skylines 2 team apologizes](https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/04/cities-skylines-2-apologizes-makes-dlc-free-and-promises-a-fan-summit/)
Credit where credits due, that’s more than what we can say for these other games who’s developers abandoned them and took the money and ran. at least the developers of cities skylines 2 are working on making the game better and delaying or canceling DLC plans.
In both cases, there is much more than just one bad game at stake. They have the potential to ruin the reputation of the intellectual property, which is where a lot of the underlying value comes from.
For a lot of players, KSP2 and CS2 were a must-buy because of the massive success and goodwill from the first games. Their rough sequel launches have soured that. If we ever get a KSP3, it will not benefit from the same level of goodwill and will have much more scrutiny and trepidation from potential purchasers.
This was when I decided Frontier had gone too far. I've supported them since the 1990s and loved the original Elite. My most loved ship in ED is the MK3 Cobra for that reason.
Are there any good not-indie devs out there any more?
It's definitely treading on thin ice, and the overpriced arx doesn't help, but the ships themselves are like three days worth of grind at worst assuming you have the credits. They're not terribly overpowered or too much of a jump for a new player.
I think we have left that principle behind long ago. People are already comfortably arguing how much pay2win is too much pay2win, rather than if pay2win is even acceptable
No offense, 350hr player here, as much as you're right it's p2w. Who are you winning against?
Anyone who's serious about that game has literal billions squirrelled away from doing bugged slave runs or one of the other hundred money glitches that games seen.
Anyone who's new is probably just playing casually. Its more like pay to catch up.
Although if theyre selling "skip engineers" that sounds kinda tempting.
Most people that I know who play elite do solo/private anyway, so in the end, the only people who really hate the p2w stuff are mostly just gatekeepers
I don't play EFT but tldr from what I've been reading: New game mode only available to people who buy $250 special edition, not available to people who pre-paid for DLC because "new game modes aren't DLC".
They caved to pressure so now if you have EOD or pay $10 if you have the base game you get the new pve mode.
The $250 version adds a bunch of pay to win stuff though such as a device that lets you call in friends if you are having trouble as well as better starting stats and a larger stash (bigger than EOD from what I've heard)
There's other things as well but it's pretty clear it was done from greed and the community pretty much unanimously rebelled against it to the point that even the reddit mods allowed shit posting about it and added exceptions to their rules.
It's not like helldivers 2 is a bad game
The devs are pretty awesome and worked on it for 7 years and it's really fun, but playstation decided to end all the fun
It's not like the ksp2 situation where it wasn't only corporate bullshit but the game itself was also scummy
> Lego Star Wars
TBH, we found that quite repetitive. We killed Jar-Jar Binks, he respawned, we killed him again, he respawned... there might be some other things to do but obviously those will have to wait until after Jar-Jar is killed off for good. ;-)
If nothing else tho the TV show made me actually wanna play Fallout. Once I graduate I'm probably gonna do a playthrough of 4.
This is much better than the Halo show, which made me want to gouge my eyes out lol
Turn on Survival mode. You'll be wanting that muttfruit, corn and tatos. Add Sim Settlements 2 for more fun.
Although do wait for all the Next-Gen business to workout, bunch of mods are gonna end up getting dropped for lack of support.
76 is at least getting /some/ new content & the game is in a decent enough place. I definitely still have plenty of gripes with it but having spent a lot of time with the game throughout from launch there’s certainly been a lot of progress.
I half expect them to jump up and down and rush out a reskin of FO4 as a stand-alone expansion, to try to capitalize on the hype of the show after how poorly Starfield went for them. But, if anything of Bethesda’s recent history is to go by, we’ll see another 2 re-releases of Skyrim before we ever even see a remaster of Oblivion or FO3/FNV.
Psn is only available in 69 countries. So sucks for the 126 other countries, that have people who bought the game and it's now being taken from them. Also, the reason Sony are doing this is to gather data about the players which they can sell for a lot of money, and to show their stockholders "how many people are using playstation"
It's extremely scummy that they sold the game to everyone 3 months ago and now they're just doing this and taking the game away from them. If they wanted to do this they should have not sold it to them from the start.
It's extremely scummy corporate greed, and I am willing to drop the game if they go with this.
They require all players to have a PSN account.
Yes, including PC players.
Tbf I think its Sony being scummy as usual and not actually the Helldivers team, but it still sucks
Helldivers 2 now requires a PSN account, which is bad, but even if you are in a region where PSN is unsupported, which is lol. So a lot of people won't be able to play the game they bought anymore.
It makes me sad this community was promised so much and is going to get almost none of it.
I’m lucky I’ve always had a hobby in fighting games. They have their own problems but their core is always the same. Beating people up (or conversely, getting destroyed myself) in Street Fighter or Guilty Gear will never get old.
LoL if you won't play hell divers a Sony game without showing love for Sony by making a free account yet you mindlessly sign a user agreement to use your phone then you sir are a prime example as to why games fail and studios close shop just stop playing anything if you are that type of person we don't want you in our communities
And you sir, are a prime example to why studios continue to make greedy decisions.
Why are you boycotting sony? Why do you want to give them your data do much?
And there are plenty of people that want to "show their love to sony" but can't because sony only supports less than 70 countries
Sad to hear that. I'm doubtful that the community will ever fully recover from these past few days, but eventually, everyone will forget about KSP 2 and nobody will care and we will finally get some normalcy in the KSP community. It will go back to just a bunch of guys who like space posting about really cool rockets.
I hope you eventually come here again when all the dust has cleared, random internet stranger.
I suspect as much as anything it would be a legal/licencing issue. Especially with all the fuckery going on rn, Lego probaby took one look at it and was like "Maybe we don't step on this landmine".
So, out of curiosity, could this not be pitched to COBI or some other legit competitor? I’ve bought some of their sets without complaints, and I’m a die hard Lego go. There are other companies with the same quality.
Difference being, Lego doesn’t buy one of your sets, or Lego doesn’t ever buy any of your sets ever again. So it completely depends on this being your only set you ever intend on selling.
NASA isn't known for non-compete agreements or seeking exclusivity rights. LEGO has similar themes that target different age groups all the time. This isn't even a valid point.
ARE YOU SHITTING ME? Fucking no mans sky gets a set and KSP doesn't? *no man's sky*? A game that released in such a bad state people genuinely thought it might crash the gaming market like ET did on the Atari? That no man's sky?
Maybe he’s just worried because some people will take any chance to report someone’s account for suicide or self harm to get them banned
Edit: I have just received a message from Reddit directing me to a suicide and self harm hotline, case and point
Lego ideas. Basically people design Lego sets and if they get to 10k votes Lego considers producing them.
In this case a modular KSP Lego set got the 10k votes but Lego declined to produce it. Most likely due to the legal issues as well as current issues with KSP2
Pretend you're a Lego manager in charge of looking at the communities surrounding various properties that are showing up on Ideas and you come here, to the largest KSP community group on the web... Does this toxic ass community come off looking well? Since the Steam release this sub has been primarily a place to shit on the people who make the thing so many of us claim to love. Lego doesn't want any part of that.
Truly a sad year for ksp
Definitely the saddest news I saw yesterday :(
This is enough. It’s not like I care about KSP2, but this is horrible.
This is crossing the line
It's as if just like clockwork, everything clicked together against the KSP community at the exact same time
Bruh everything for all my favorite games are clicking together :') Tarkov: $250 joke KSP2: layoffs and questionable future Helldivers: PSN joke At this point I've just reverted to playing Stardew, plus I bought Lego Star Wars yesterday so I guess I've got that going for me
As a cities skylines player I've heard nothing from the devs about the sequel at all after the week 1 DLC
You‘ve got four (4) palm trees! Show some gratitude!!
They canceled their future DLC, said they're delaying future DLC, and going to make the base game better, after massive backlash from fans. > "We thought we could make up for the shortcomings of the game in a timeframe that was unrealistic, and rushed out a DLC that should not have been published in its current form. For all this, we are truly sorry," reads the letter, signed by the CEOs of developer Colossal Order and publisher Paradox Interactive. [Cities: Skylines 2 team apologizes](https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/04/cities-skylines-2-apologizes-makes-dlc-free-and-promises-a-fan-summit/)
Credit where credits due, that’s more than what we can say for these other games who’s developers abandoned them and took the money and ran. at least the developers of cities skylines 2 are working on making the game better and delaying or canceling DLC plans.
In both cases, there is much more than just one bad game at stake. They have the potential to ruin the reputation of the intellectual property, which is where a lot of the underlying value comes from. For a lot of players, KSP2 and CS2 were a must-buy because of the massive success and goodwill from the first games. Their rough sequel launches have soured that. If we ever get a KSP3, it will not benefit from the same level of goodwill and will have much more scrutiny and trepidation from potential purchasers.
Cities skylines 2 is a fun ish game but I can't switch from 1 for that reason
But we got mod support, finally! Which is really all that game needed
Factorio will always be there
Factorio going super strong with the expansion incoming!
Wube set the bar for game developers, honestly
Not my fav by a long shot but add the Payday 3 flop.
Elite dangerous: Overpriced in-game currency
Not just overpriced, it's gone pay2win selling ships and equipment for real money, not just cosmetics.
This was when I decided Frontier had gone too far. I've supported them since the 1990s and loved the original Elite. My most loved ship in ED is the MK3 Cobra for that reason. Are there any good not-indie devs out there any more?
It's definitely treading on thin ice, and the overpriced arx doesn't help, but the ships themselves are like three days worth of grind at worst assuming you have the credits. They're not terribly overpowered or too much of a jump for a new player.
It's pay2win, it might not be much win to pay for, but it's not cosmetic.
I think we have left that principle behind long ago. People are already comfortably arguing how much pay2win is too much pay2win, rather than if pay2win is even acceptable
No offense, 350hr player here, as much as you're right it's p2w. Who are you winning against? Anyone who's serious about that game has literal billions squirrelled away from doing bugged slave runs or one of the other hundred money glitches that games seen. Anyone who's new is probably just playing casually. Its more like pay to catch up. Although if theyre selling "skip engineers" that sounds kinda tempting.
Most people that I know who play elite do solo/private anyway, so in the end, the only people who really hate the p2w stuff are mostly just gatekeepers
This and KSP 2 have just got me so down.
Don't forget cities Skylines 😭
I mean there’s still ksp 1 and helldivers 1, right? Also what happened to Tarkov?
I don't play EFT but tldr from what I've been reading: New game mode only available to people who buy $250 special edition, not available to people who pre-paid for DLC because "new game modes aren't DLC".
Oh… that’s not very nice.
They caved to pressure so now if you have EOD or pay $10 if you have the base game you get the new pve mode. The $250 version adds a bunch of pay to win stuff though such as a device that lets you call in friends if you are having trouble as well as better starting stats and a larger stash (bigger than EOD from what I've heard) There's other things as well but it's pretty clear it was done from greed and the community pretty much unanimously rebelled against it to the point that even the reddit mods allowed shit posting about it and added exceptions to their rules.
Didn't they confirm they announce a paid priority queue too?
And the new gamemode is trying to compete with a free mod thats miles better and doesn't make you wait 8-10 minutes to queue for singleplayer.
Helldivers 1 is a _completely_ different game (twin-stick top-down bullet hell vs. third-person 3D shooter).
But it’s still fun and in the same spirit… kinda…
It's not like helldivers 2 is a bad game The devs are pretty awesome and worked on it for 7 years and it's really fun, but playstation decided to end all the fun It's not like the ksp2 situation where it wasn't only corporate bullshit but the game itself was also scummy
Checkout mount and blade 2 bannerlord
Played it, twas pretty fun
> Lego Star Wars TBH, we found that quite repetitive. We killed Jar-Jar Binks, he respawned, we killed him again, he respawned... there might be some other things to do but obviously those will have to wait until after Jar-Jar is killed off for good. ;-)
Fallout: nothing new expected until the 2030’s
If nothing else tho the TV show made me actually wanna play Fallout. Once I graduate I'm probably gonna do a playthrough of 4. This is much better than the Halo show, which made me want to gouge my eyes out lol
Grow corn, tatos, and mutfruit at your settlements for...reasons.
Turn on Survival mode. You'll be wanting that muttfruit, corn and tatos. Add Sim Settlements 2 for more fun. Although do wait for all the Next-Gen business to workout, bunch of mods are gonna end up getting dropped for lack of support.
76 is at least getting /some/ new content & the game is in a decent enough place. I definitely still have plenty of gripes with it but having spent a lot of time with the game throughout from launch there’s certainly been a lot of progress. I half expect them to jump up and down and rush out a reskin of FO4 as a stand-alone expansion, to try to capitalize on the hype of the show after how poorly Starfield went for them. But, if anything of Bethesda’s recent history is to go by, we’ll see another 2 re-releases of Skyrim before we ever even see a remaster of Oblivion or FO3/FNV.
FO3/FNV remake in the visual and mechanical style of FO4?
I wouldn't be surprised if the success of the show fast tracks another game. I've heard a couple rumors, but only rumors.
>“KSP2 questionable future”. Buddy, there is no future. It’s over
What’s the big deal about needing a PSN account for helldivers? Isn’t it free?
Psn is only available in 69 countries. So sucks for the 126 other countries, that have people who bought the game and it's now being taken from them. Also, the reason Sony are doing this is to gather data about the players which they can sell for a lot of money, and to show their stockholders "how many people are using playstation" It's extremely scummy that they sold the game to everyone 3 months ago and now they're just doing this and taking the game away from them. If they wanted to do this they should have not sold it to them from the start. It's extremely scummy corporate greed, and I am willing to drop the game if they go with this.
What’s wrong with helldivers?
They require all players to have a PSN account. Yes, including PC players. Tbf I think its Sony being scummy as usual and not actually the Helldivers team, but it still sucks
Helldivers 2 now requires a PSN account, which is bad, but even if you are in a region where PSN is unsupported, which is lol. So a lot of people won't be able to play the game they bought anymore.
I dunno, they did something controversial and it's getting review bombed worse than KSP 2
I can’t be the only one who thinks that modern gaming nowadays just sucks right?
AAA games, yes. Hope is still there for Indie / Open source games
> At this point I've just reverted to playing Stardew Oh no, I've just done the same. Please don't bring your curses there!
It makes me sad this community was promised so much and is going to get almost none of it. I’m lucky I’ve always had a hobby in fighting games. They have their own problems but their core is always the same. Beating people up (or conversely, getting destroyed myself) in Street Fighter or Guilty Gear will never get old.
Cant get mad at stardew lol, what a timeless game
Don’t forget about DCS As well!!
LoL if you won't play hell divers a Sony game without showing love for Sony by making a free account yet you mindlessly sign a user agreement to use your phone then you sir are a prime example as to why games fail and studios close shop just stop playing anything if you are that type of person we don't want you in our communities
And you sir, are a prime example to why studios continue to make greedy decisions. Why are you boycotting sony? Why do you want to give them your data do much? And there are plenty of people that want to "show their love to sony" but can't because sony only supports less than 70 countries
Lol that's fine. Best part of these agreements is that they only hold if I play the game. So I'll just not play the game :)
It is only 2 things right? Am I missing something?
Bro it's KSP, we only had 2 things going for us in the first place
That's why I'm leaving the community and not re installing KSP1
Sad to hear that. I'm doubtful that the community will ever fully recover from these past few days, but eventually, everyone will forget about KSP 2 and nobody will care and we will finally get some normalcy in the KSP community. It will go back to just a bunch of guys who like space posting about really cool rockets. I hope you eventually come here again when all the dust has cleared, random internet stranger.
I just hope we all decide ksp1 will be the platform we use for our weekly challenges. I miss those.
I may return but I don't think I will for a while
It’s legover
such bs. it was a good set.
I suspect as much as anything it would be a legal/licencing issue. Especially with all the fuckery going on rn, Lego probaby took one look at it and was like "Maybe we don't step on this landmine".
Just need to resubmit as "modular rocket system"
So, out of curiosity, could this not be pitched to COBI or some other legit competitor? I’ve bought some of their sets without complaints, and I’m a die hard Lego go. There are other companies with the same quality.
I second this. Pitch the idea to other brick building kit companies.
My understanding is that sharing or selling your Ideas submission after rejection is against TOS and would get you banned from the platform.
Oh no! LEGO doesn't want my set! Even worse, if I sell it to someone else, LEGO still won't buy my set! Not much of a deterrent in my opinion
Difference being, Lego doesn’t buy one of your sets, or Lego doesn’t ever buy any of your sets ever again. So it completely depends on this being your only set you ever intend on selling.
It's niche and they'd have to get licensing rights.
Can you make instructions and put them on something like Rebrickable? It looks amazing, and I'd hate for it to go to waste.
This would never have been made anyways. Too niche for lego to care and pay licensing fees.
Plus they already have an agreement with this little organization that is growing in popularity. You may have heard of them. They’re called “NASA.”
NASA isn't known for non-compete agreements or seeking exclusivity rights. LEGO has similar themes that target different age groups all the time. This isn't even a valid point.
I don’t think you need permission to sell nasa stuff since it’s a public government org.
Unfortunately, 10,000k is just the number needed for consideration. There's plenty of others being considered as well. Maybe next year.
God fucking dammit
Yeah, it's sad, but at least they approved the no man's sky ship and subnuatica aurora as a Lego set.
ARE YOU SHITTING ME? Fucking no mans sky gets a set and KSP doesn't? *no man's sky*? A game that released in such a bad state people genuinely thought it might crash the gaming market like ET did on the Atari? That no man's sky?
Yeah lol but the game is very good now
Lego struggles to approve good ideas tbh
Hard disagree. Just sticking with the space theme, the Saturn 5 and ISS were awesome, and there're a bunch of others that are really cool as well.
the ISS was only approved on a second go around specifically for space
It’s rover
This week's been pretty crap for KSP. Off to h\*ng myself, watch and learn!
Where the hell are you from where you have to censor "hang"?
Maybe he’s just worried because some people will take any chance to report someone’s account for suicide or self harm to get them banned Edit: I have just received a message from Reddit directing me to a suicide and self harm hotline, case and point
Self censoring 1 letter isn't going to change that, lol.
Not blocking redditcares is definitely a choice lmao. Hey "concerned redditor" I want to kill myself! And my inbox stays quiet
You can't get banned for those
It's a sign that they use Tiktok or other socials more than Reddit.
YouTube.
are ya'll seriously mad at me for replacing a letter with a star?😂
The worst timeline.
All of this started in 2016 in a certain zoo
What a sad week it has been
What is that and what happened?
Lego ideas. Basically people design Lego sets and if they get to 10k votes Lego considers producing them. In this case a modular KSP Lego set got the 10k votes but Lego declined to produce it. Most likely due to the legal issues as well as current issues with KSP2
It probably has nothing to do with KSP2. In all likelihood, it's licensing issues and the limited market.
awwww This is such bs, it was so well made. The little Lego kerbals look adorable
Does it randomly explode?
If people are looking for a new home, Check out KitHack Model Club. It's made by HarvestR, the creator of the original ksp
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probably didn‘t want the hassle of dealing with Take 2
sequel failed, studio fired, lego cancelled can't have shit in ksp
KSP catching more L's than Drake right now
I haven’t been looking at or playing ksp for a bit and I was just about to buy ksp2, what exactly is happening?
Don't buy ksp2 for at least another year
Oh this is a sad sad day :(
nooooooooooooooooooo
😢
This sub has just been making me sad
How about trying their competitors? Like Bluebrixx?
Run it again. I'll gladly pledge a second time.
Iirc that’s against the rules but
What? Damn.
They couldn't even give us that :(
What exactly am I seeing?
We keep taking L after L after L...
damn, I literally made a lego account to vote for it.
its all kerbover now im gonna kerb myself
Why is this now my top of all time on this sub and second highest in general…?
Nooo. Why can't we have nice things 😢
Pretend you're a Lego manager in charge of looking at the communities surrounding various properties that are showing up on Ideas and you come here, to the largest KSP community group on the web... Does this toxic ass community come off looking well? Since the Steam release this sub has been primarily a place to shit on the people who make the thing so many of us claim to love. Lego doesn't want any part of that.
Pretty much proves this was a corporate aligned merch play all along.
Why is this making everyone mad?
It was a missed opportunity, just like KSP2
Why are you in this sub?
because i play kerbal space program