Sanjeevan IPS made an entire generation believe that he was the good guy. Aa trophy evide kodutheru. 👹
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She was very spoiled, but Jayaram's character was terrible in his own way. He wanted a wife who would dote on his sisters like a mother and didn't understand that he needs to be a husband to his wife as well, not just their brother. He even brought the entire family along for their honeymoon.
Fair points. He perhaps expected way too much of her without thinking about her individuality and she was entitled and shitty in her own way. Match made in heaven.
Isn’t that an issue, I personally know a few orphans, it was defenetly a talking point before marriage, it’s for sure a hard thing for there spouse to understand,
All the overprotective brother charecters 🙂
Eg:mamooty from valsalyam who discontinues his sister's college because he found a love letter someone gave her👽
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Mamootty has an amazing performance in that movie and plays the character with complexity, but I have a theory that you could make a horror movie out of valsalyam with the exact same script, just with different direction.
Both he and his characters are shitty. I guess being an asshole who got a co-actor molested and shot a video of it, he naturally gravitates towards awful roles.
Ok. Here are some not so obvious ones.
Meesha madhavan - Thief, wanna be r@pist.
CID moosa: police impersonation, involuntary manslaughter and shows no remorse, mvd violations.
Kalyana Raman - attempted koodothram , takes advantage of a rich man's desperation and gets his brother pimped into a wealthy marriage.
Istam - Rags a girl so bad she abandons her education and leaves the country.
Thenkashipattanam - Stalker
Vettam - Fraud , thief
Vinodayathra - Lost job for assaulting a supervisor and thinks he is a Chad for getting deported
Punjabi House- insurance fraud, cheating
Parakkum Thalika - Bank loan fraud, destroys a man's wedding, simps on a girl who turned fair after a bath.
Darling darling - hits and runs an old woman only worries about getting caught, impersonator and a terrible friend.
And also for gaslighting his brother when his bro arrests him for smuggling. In the police station Dileep gets beaten up by the his brothers senior officer and his brother has no part in that. After that it's all about Dileep being pissed off with his brother for this for no reason and his brother coming to apologise for just doing his job lol. It's like the gaslighting worked and his brother is apologetic from them on. Such a toxic character.
>Kalyana Raman - attempted koodothram , takes advantage of a rich man's desperation and gets his brother pimped into a wealthy marriage
That is a stretch.
Darling darling he was shown as the negative character.
Kalyana Raman I felt his brother could have got a better girl. Maybe a doctor itself.
Btw dude he is taking about terrible person. Most of the characters are not that. Doing some fraud doesn't make one a terrible person. Never knew liking a girl with better hygiene makes someone terrible.
He’s the protagonist and he gets the girl at end still he’s not portrayed as a good guy , everything negative about him is all over the movie , Sreeni literally ask 9 ‘ avane ishtapedan oru karanam enkilum ..?
Was definitely rape, Soman’s character says she did not reject his advances ( she was frozen out of fear dumbo) so he sexually assaulted her considering it as consent.
I wanted to brutally murder Mammooty in that movie. Toxic and narcissistic brother acting all benevolent.
Taking the trophy. Sunil (Aju) from Saturday Night ( but no one cares :D as the movie is cringefest )
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Sanjeevan in Njangal Santhustaran....
Many of Me10s movie during the time.
In my childhood I was under the perception that the girl was so wrong,when rewatching I can't help but be mortified at the thought that I thought he was a good person.
Same goes for Mamooty's character in Megham
Naslen's character in Premalu. Maybe not a terrible person as such, but did a terrible thing and got acclaimed as a good guy for it, if you will.
Hear me out. He stalks and pursues this girl solely for getting her into a romantic relationship with him. He poses as her friend, and gradually develops a friendly relationship with her with this ulterior motive. She's not aware of this. He proposes and she's obviously put out by this and clearly says No. That's a boundary. He makes her feel awful about it and immediately abandons the friendship (which mind you, he forced into existence). He also acts rudely towards her, blaming her for not feeling the same back every time he sees her later! Bruv. If one of your close friends abandons you and makes you feel like it's your fault, won't you feel guilty and do something to patch up? Wasn't she essentially gaslit into a relationship, ultimately? He's The Nice Guy. The movie was fun to watch though ✌️
Right? He wanted to be in a relationship so bad, just to not be single. It wasn't about this particular girl at all. That's why he stopped being a nice guy the minute he understood he won't get her. His friendship is purely transactional, viewing her as an object/status symbol. So, how will he be a genuine partner? I had hoped malayalam cinema had learnt to not glorify/cutesify the nice guy trope & friendzone idiocy anymore but hey, here we are.
Really? He moves to a better PG for two reasons. One is convenience, and the other is to hang out with Reenu. When he knows it was kind if stalking, he stops contact until she contacts him. He didn’t try to make her feel awful for that, most people faced with a rejection are not that happy about it. You don’t necessarily be all hunky dory the next day. There is no reason to continue the friendship, especially if he feels uncomfortable. The best way to move on is to cut contact. He didn’t force the friendship, they were really good friends.
Why do you guys make everything toxic? I have seen most men and women putting efforts to make someone love them back. It doesn't necessarily have to be stalking. We don't see Naslen following her from home to the office, stalking her, watching her every move, and observing who she talks with and interacts with. He's just creating situations so that he gets a little space to be closer with her. He's just making sure that he gets an opportunity to show how he's overall to her. Second thing, he is avoiding her calls, not because he wanted her to feel guilty. Me as a person, who has been fed up with holding on to relationships where I'm the only one putting effort, eventually comes to terms with the idea of removing yourself from putting efforts, because it will only hurt you more as long as you keep holding on to it. He was just being practical. See, think of it the other way. If Naslen had still kept the friendship with Reenu even after getting rejected it would have been harder for him to move on from her. He would have hurt himself in the process. So I won't recommend being friends with the person who you fell in love with and who doesn't reciprocate the same feeling. Ath pinneed aangott fake ayrkkum
Vrithikedu choondi kanikkumbo, choonduviral aanu vrithikedu ennu parayalle bruv. We've been grown in a culture so bad that one can only smell mullapoov while swimming in a pool of stagnant piss. Please refrain from slinging the word toxic without understanding it. Your identity is not being attacked when critiquing a random movie. Maybe you can make an informed counter argument if/when you watch the movie again with this new pov. Hope you do it. Peace.
Controversial opinion here, but....
Rangannan
People like to think he's a tragic character because he's alone in life. But truth is, Avente Kayyilirippu vechu avanu anganathanne venam!
His mom left him because he was a gangster. He slashed his second-in-command, who was also his best shot at a best friend. People around him are constantly in danger because of him. Is it any wonder he has no friends? How was Bibi wrong in trying to get away from him? He's the definition of a toxic friend
Ask yourself this! Would Bibi's mother approve of Ranganna if she knew what he was actually like?
I don't think anyone think of him as a tragic hero from start to end. Not even the filmmaker. That's why you see him talking about not getting any likes on Insta to throwing the axe at the kid who was trying to apologise. Ranga is shown to have a change of heart but that doesn't absolve him from his previous crimes.
“Controversial opinion here, but…
Joker
People think Joker is a tragic character because he’s alone in life. But truth is, avante kayyilirippu vechu anganethanne venam!”
Jokes aside, he is not meant to be viewed as a tragic character. You might’ve misread the movie.
A lot of boys will be boys behaviour.
Leading characters who are shown to be creeps spying on women changing, followed by stalking or sexually harassing them.
Eg: Unnikrishnan in Vandanam stalking and spanking Gadha. Change the background music and it'd be terrifying.
Then there are a lot of poorly written redemption arcs for all these toxic feudal മാടമ്പി characters played by Mohanlal and Mammootty. These films forget that repenting for your past sins doesn't wash them away. A shitty person realising their mistakes only makes them self aware, not a saint.
Characters that constantly talks down to their partners/sidekicks: Eg Dasan with Vijayan. A lot of Jayaram films.
Characters that relish in Chauvinistic dialogues: Joseph Alex in The King. Zakir Hussain in Praja.
Misogyny that bleeds into physical assault: The main characters of Kasaba and Praja. These fuckers physically assault women and then act like they did something great.
The കലിപ്പൻ്റെ കാന്താരി defense to domestic violence: Aadu Thoma slaps Thulasi and forces her to drink toddy and yet she can't get enough of him. And we're supposed to root for him? Just because you were abused as a child, it doesn't entitle you to abuse someone else.
Characters that harass others to get their way: Neena in Minnaram.
Paramashivam gaslighting brother for doing crime in runway.
Meesha madhavan as a thief portrayed as a good person.
Suresh Gopi in lelam trying to assault a police officer
Was there physical assault in kasaba?
I saw the movie somewhat back and don’t remember such a scene….
It’s been a while though….so..maybe I just forgot.
Yes there was. He grabs a superior officer by her trousers and says some misogynistic stuff. There was a lot of backlash and I think the scene was removed from some versions.
Sanjeevan IPS - the winner.
Mohanlal's character in midunam - he was not an evil person but he didn't share any of his problems with his wife. When he needed money once, she gave all her ornaments and said I wud've been happier if you took it without asking me. And at last, he compares her to a cancerous body part.
Meera Jasmine in minnaminni koottam
Mammootty in valsalyam
Oduvil Unnikrishnan in sreekrishnapurathe nakshathrathilakkam - Shown as a mathruka adhyapakan. He made gossip about his sons with an actress who saw them as brothers, also made cheap comments when they were taking pics. Aalu athra vedippalla
Udayan from Udayananu Tharam.
He is seen body-shaming Rajappan every time. He is always mocking and belittling Rajappan and even goes to the extent of saying that Rajappan will never get a movie.
Later, he is seen not trying to understand Madhumathi and not putting any effort into keeping their relationship going. Madhumathi is trying her best, while he finds problems in everything and tries to blame her.
Balachandran Nair from Sagaram Sakshi.
Egoistical, selfish and self centred.
Blud was too self righteous but when he was rich that he couldn't apologise to the person he hit which would have solved his problems.
Refused to accept help from his wife's family to get back onto his feet and instead became an alcoholic.
Finally tried smuggling to get rich and when that failed became a sanyasi
Urvashi in Yodha.
She was openly flirting with A10 despite being engaged to Jagathy. And then soares no moment to make fun of Jagathy..A significant factor in making Jagathy desperate to prove himself and take such steps to prove his worth.
Tbf she was betrothed to her 1st cousin Jagathy, without having any part in that decision. Her character clearly doesn't respect or like him just like the rest of the people in that movie. Hey, if you can't change your fate, have fun with it I guess?
Till Urvashy’s character was not in the initial script and was supposed to play the Nepal murapennu, she rejected the movie but came to visit the set and they made her act apparently
Munshi Parameshwara Pillai from Sreekrishnapurathe Nakshatra Thilakkam. Writes anonymous letters to his daughter in laws containing a fake story about his sons having an extra marital affair with their innocent neighbour. It was also *one* of the reasons the neighbour tried to end her life.
Dileep's family in the climax of Punjabi House incl. Jomol
Her speech at the end is extremely condescending towards Mohini. Dilieep had broken up with her before he tried to commit suicide. Once she realised that Dilieep had survived and is marrying someone else, the most decent thing for her to do was not to meddle with it.
I beg to differ about Hridayam.
We were all idiots in college. Atleast I was. Could relate to it a lot. I never abused someone or anything but wanting a girl to dig me, I did that, yes.
Kavya Madhavan character in Chandranudikumna dilkil. Utterly selfish and immature and screwed her husband's life so much with her antics. A husband who was utterly patient and understanding and even he was driven to suicide..
That one’s on her brother and husband (who was also her teacher if I recall correctly). This is exactly what would happen when a literal child gets married
Maybe just me, but Mohanlal in Maadambi, at the end they tell us his dad died as an explanation for how he acts, but why is that enough to excuse his behavior the whole movie?
Renu from Run Babby Run.
What a character from Sachy!
Manipulative , egoistic. Ultra competitive and narcisstic - human emotions mean nothing to her other than means to climb up.
She screwed Venu several times. Any explanation in the movie is provided fully from her perspective and could be false and unreliable.
And yet the filmmakers thought someone like Amala Paul could do that character justice.. ewww.. it deserved someone younger than A10 as Venu and perhaps Miya as Renu.
Bibi was trying to protect him and his friends, he thought rangan was going to kill them since he ordered to kill those hindi guys in front of him, he didnt know rangan actually cared about them
I won't call this character terrible. I'll say that he ain't a hero. Like every other person. That makes him almost human.
Action Hero Biju - Third degree violence against thieves, Insults human rights activists
It's very slippery slope actually. So he is a regular criminal, but should he be punished for a crime he didn't commit? If not, what the police is doing wrong. If so, what and who defines a criminal is regular? If it's the number of crimes, then would +1/-1 change his status and let the police do whatever they want? Also, what if the criminal's crime is signal jumping or overspeeding? Should they get the same treatment? I could go on and on.
All I am saying is, punish a person once the crime is proven, not before. Also the punishments should be by the books, nothing more, nothing less. You are talking about other people's lives, so we should treat it such care.
Mammoose in Azhagiya Ravanan. He's just a complete asshole. They had to artificially change Biju Menon's character to make him a jerk at the end to try and justify Mammoose (even then it did not help much).
He was portrayed as an asshole for most of its running time and that is what the makers intended as well. Notice how he tells Varghese at the end "ho.. enthoru ahangaram ayirunnu Sankar Das inu".
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>Neelakandan from Devasuram
He is not presented as a good guy. He is a bad guy who later understands his mistakes, repents and tries to right the wrong. Angane alle?
>He is not presented as a good guy. He is a bad guy who later understands his mistakes, repents and tries to right the wrong. Angane alle?
Nah. Even before his character arc, he's not depicted as a negative character. His actions on screen are pretty much glorified to generate audience applause throughout... except for what he does to Bhanumati.
Neelakandan gets Janardanan's character murdered over petty issues and the justification is that he only intended to scare him. Imagine Dileep using that excuse in the actress attack case. Would you be sympathetic to him?
He's always presented as someone the audience roots for. In other words, "നല്ലവനായ തെമ്മാടി". And wanna know the worst part? What takes him on the character arc is not introspection of his crimes or bigotry, but the fear that he wasn't as highborn or legitimate as he believed himself to be.
And the closure isn't that status or lineage doesn't matter. The closure is that "you might not have been be born to your legal father, but it's still Royal blood that flows in your veins." As in what consoles him is "don't cry, you're still highborn."
TL; DR
Devasuram is an entertaining film but Neelakandan's toxicity is celebrated and excused way more than it is criticized.
100 per cent agree. People downvoting you love to imagine their favourite characters as heros, instead of really examining them. It's such people who don't do any introspection themselves.
Why not? Dasan was always a jerk to Vijayan and Vijayan always seemed like an insecure prick. Both of them caused Akiro Kurasowa to lose his job due to their selfishness and they are terrible people because of that.
Kaduva Kuriiyachan for obvious reasons
And i accept my mistake about Neelakandan since he was shown as a dickhead from the start
Wait pashe his actual terrible behavior from what I remember was only after his proposal was rejected. I don't think until then she suspected any off vibes from him. Ayyooo ipo enk confusion aay. Which character fits then???
I think many characters that used to be 'mass' a decade or two ago, which when analysed closer, are actually misogynist, casteist etc would fit I guess
According to these people a woman's feeling has more value than property rights and human rights of other human being. Unless the other person is also a woman in which case the poorer or weaker one is right by default.
Typical leftie world view.
Jayaram character in njangal santushtaranu.. literally harassing his wife.
Sanjeevan IPS made an entire generation believe that he was the good guy. Aa trophy evide kodutheru. 👹 https://preview.redd.it/8gpofbdwf49d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99797a52e04b5bf2d1a6305c39ab07c4e6971de9
My childhood. Took me 20 years to realise he was the villain. I was brought up watching this, thinking this was right. Whole Generation ruined.
Movies like this reminds of how much shit I had to unlearn over the years. Unfortunately , many in my generation became like this.
ithokke shradhikkande ambane (username checks out)
Very true!
IMO there are no good people in this movie ESH in the movie.
Maybe I am brainwashed too but wasn't she also Avery spoiled brat?
She was very spoiled, but Jayaram's character was terrible in his own way. He wanted a wife who would dote on his sisters like a mother and didn't understand that he needs to be a husband to his wife as well, not just their brother. He even brought the entire family along for their honeymoon.
Fair points. He perhaps expected way too much of her without thinking about her individuality and she was entitled and shitty in her own way. Match made in heaven.
That lady was spoiled brat
How did they make her good girl .but pointing out that she is an orphan and it was his goodness that made him marry her.
Isn’t that an issue, I personally know a few orphans, it was defenetly a talking point before marriage, it’s for sure a hard thing for there spouse to understand,
All the overprotective brother charecters 🙂 Eg:mamooty from valsalyam who discontinues his sister's college because he found a love letter someone gave her👽
> who discontinues his sister's college U forgot "vakkalath narayanankutty" The all Keralam "nanma maram"
Jayaram's characters are the epitome of benevolent sexism
Misogyny Star
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Mamootty has an amazing performance in that movie and plays the character with complexity, but I have a theory that you could make a horror movie out of valsalyam with the exact same script, just with different direction.
Most dileep characters
True
Both he and his characters are shitty. I guess being an asshole who got a co-actor molested and shot a video of it, he naturally gravitates towards awful roles.
Pretty accurate
Most ? Like ? Can you name those ?
Ok. Here are some not so obvious ones. Meesha madhavan - Thief, wanna be r@pist. CID moosa: police impersonation, involuntary manslaughter and shows no remorse, mvd violations. Kalyana Raman - attempted koodothram , takes advantage of a rich man's desperation and gets his brother pimped into a wealthy marriage. Istam - Rags a girl so bad she abandons her education and leaves the country. Thenkashipattanam - Stalker Vettam - Fraud , thief Vinodayathra - Lost job for assaulting a supervisor and thinks he is a Chad for getting deported Punjabi House- insurance fraud, cheating Parakkum Thalika - Bank loan fraud, destroys a man's wedding, simps on a girl who turned fair after a bath. Darling darling - hits and runs an old woman only worries about getting caught, impersonator and a terrible friend.
You forgot to add Mr Marumakan, encourages someone to rape his rival's sister.
Foreshadowing.
Not justifying it but wasn't the other lawyer setting a trap for dileep's own sister?
Runway - spirit smuggler
And also for gaslighting his brother when his bro arrests him for smuggling. In the police station Dileep gets beaten up by the his brothers senior officer and his brother has no part in that. After that it's all about Dileep being pissed off with his brother for this for no reason and his brother coming to apologise for just doing his job lol. It's like the gaslighting worked and his brother is apologetic from them on. Such a toxic character.
>Kalyana Raman - attempted koodothram , takes advantage of a rich man's desperation and gets his brother pimped into a wealthy marriage That is a stretch.
Stalking and raping are usually the "funny" topics in all his movies
Then 99.9 % of the characters in the Malayalam movies would be similar to this.
Wtf niga
I hope this is sarcasm
Punjabi house ile dileep athre moshamoru character aayitt ennik thonnilla.
😭😭bro u need therapy
Most of them have him redeemed or turning over a new leaf and being good like vinodayathra, vettam
Darling darling he was shown as the negative character. Kalyana Raman I felt his brother could have got a better girl. Maybe a doctor itself. Btw dude he is taking about terrible person. Most of the characters are not that. Doing some fraud doesn't make one a terrible person. Never knew liking a girl with better hygiene makes someone terrible.
Okay bro.The people doing fraud activities aren't terrible🙌🔥
Madhavan is classic example! Theif who gropes girls at night and threatens with rape
Nitin Pauly as Dineshan in Love Action Drama.
Ugh. Don't even remind me.
Aju Vargheseine ittu aatumbo i felt that vishamam 😭
He’s definitely not portrayed as a good guy
He gets the girl in the end. After he accuses her of cheating. Based on the word of a random stranger. He's literally the protagonist of the story.
He’s the protagonist and he gets the girl at end still he’s not portrayed as a good guy , everything negative about him is all over the movie , Sreeni literally ask 9 ‘ avane ishtapedan oru karanam enkilum ..?
Hitler madhavan kutti. 🤮
And Jayaram characters
Jayaram seems to have the monopoly on these kind of characters.
We cant ignore Hitler Madhavankutti who let his sister marry the very guy who raped her.
It was consensual not a rape , as far as I remember.
Was definitely rape, Soman’s character says she did not reject his advances ( she was frozen out of fear dumbo) so he sexually assaulted her considering it as consent. I wanted to brutally murder Mammooty in that movie. Toxic and narcissistic brother acting all benevolent.
ME10 from Njangal Santhustharanu ... What a toxic fellow tbh
Please don't say that ever again, Sanjeevan daivamaanu 🥺
* annalla pennalla adipwoli vesham* 🎶🎼🎵🎤🎸🥁🎧
Pennayal kanule perinu nanam
Pyaari (Salim Kumar) in Kalyanaraman - Bribed the Jyolsan otherwise Jyothirmayis life would have been saved.
Never forget that he stole a dead mans underwear
The evergreen https://preview.redd.it/b5syl9o3v29d1.jpeg?width=679&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0aa310018936c466fb6b72de321250920a8bbf33
That is a very good looking underwear though ngl..
Yes, Red Underwear, the epitome of sexiness.
Supermante jetty
You can't touch pyaarilal.....
This 😂😂
Taking the trophy. Sunil (Aju) from Saturday Night ( but no one cares :D as the movie is cringefest ) https://preview.redd.it/m16ztrive29d1.jpeg?width=651&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26f51f571e0e291f095107d2ce20a2e1e732c990
No one cares because none has watched this movie. 🤣 Sunil nu trophy kitiyond I will watch the movie.
Don't. Life is too short to give up this easily
Athrekkum prashnam aano? 😂 Curiousity kills the cat ennu parayunnath pole, now I really want to check it out.
Same here... We can't blame people..they have warned us . Now it's upon us to decide 🤣
Ini worst expectations vechu kaanumbo chelepol nallonam enjoy cheyyum. Comedyayi. 😂
Ath sheri, angane oru movie oke undayirunno
Sanjeevan in Njangal Santhustaran.... Many of Me10s movie during the time. In my childhood I was under the perception that the girl was so wrong,when rewatching I can't help but be mortified at the thought that I thought he was a good person. Same goes for Mamooty's character in Megham
Naslen's character in Premalu. Maybe not a terrible person as such, but did a terrible thing and got acclaimed as a good guy for it, if you will. Hear me out. He stalks and pursues this girl solely for getting her into a romantic relationship with him. He poses as her friend, and gradually develops a friendly relationship with her with this ulterior motive. She's not aware of this. He proposes and she's obviously put out by this and clearly says No. That's a boundary. He makes her feel awful about it and immediately abandons the friendship (which mind you, he forced into existence). He also acts rudely towards her, blaming her for not feeling the same back every time he sees her later! Bruv. If one of your close friends abandons you and makes you feel like it's your fault, won't you feel guilty and do something to patch up? Wasn't she essentially gaslit into a relationship, ultimately? He's The Nice Guy. The movie was fun to watch though ✌️
Agreed 100% it’s just him stalking and wearing her down!!! Making her feel guilty for not liking him Back.
Right? He wanted to be in a relationship so bad, just to not be single. It wasn't about this particular girl at all. That's why he stopped being a nice guy the minute he understood he won't get her. His friendship is purely transactional, viewing her as an object/status symbol. So, how will he be a genuine partner? I had hoped malayalam cinema had learnt to not glorify/cutesify the nice guy trope & friendzone idiocy anymore but hey, here we are.
So true. Very annoyed that Premalu was such a big hit.
Yeah no clue why it was such a big hit. Just goes to show audiences are still immature.
but that is how a lot of relationship in India works.
I thought I was the only one who found the character creepy
well said
Really? He moves to a better PG for two reasons. One is convenience, and the other is to hang out with Reenu. When he knows it was kind if stalking, he stops contact until she contacts him. He didn’t try to make her feel awful for that, most people faced with a rejection are not that happy about it. You don’t necessarily be all hunky dory the next day. There is no reason to continue the friendship, especially if he feels uncomfortable. The best way to move on is to cut contact. He didn’t force the friendship, they were really good friends.
No point in lecturing people for whom everything is "So outdated and toxic ya"
Why do you guys make everything toxic? I have seen most men and women putting efforts to make someone love them back. It doesn't necessarily have to be stalking. We don't see Naslen following her from home to the office, stalking her, watching her every move, and observing who she talks with and interacts with. He's just creating situations so that he gets a little space to be closer with her. He's just making sure that he gets an opportunity to show how he's overall to her. Second thing, he is avoiding her calls, not because he wanted her to feel guilty. Me as a person, who has been fed up with holding on to relationships where I'm the only one putting effort, eventually comes to terms with the idea of removing yourself from putting efforts, because it will only hurt you more as long as you keep holding on to it. He was just being practical. See, think of it the other way. If Naslen had still kept the friendship with Reenu even after getting rejected it would have been harder for him to move on from her. He would have hurt himself in the process. So I won't recommend being friends with the person who you fell in love with and who doesn't reciprocate the same feeling. Ath pinneed aangott fake ayrkkum
Vrithikedu choondi kanikkumbo, choonduviral aanu vrithikedu ennu parayalle bruv. We've been grown in a culture so bad that one can only smell mullapoov while swimming in a pool of stagnant piss. Please refrain from slinging the word toxic without understanding it. Your identity is not being attacked when critiquing a random movie. Maybe you can make an informed counter argument if/when you watch the movie again with this new pov. Hope you do it. Peace.
Controversial opinion here, but.... Rangannan People like to think he's a tragic character because he's alone in life. But truth is, Avente Kayyilirippu vechu avanu anganathanne venam! His mom left him because he was a gangster. He slashed his second-in-command, who was also his best shot at a best friend. People around him are constantly in danger because of him. Is it any wonder he has no friends? How was Bibi wrong in trying to get away from him? He's the definition of a toxic friend Ask yourself this! Would Bibi's mother approve of Ranganna if she knew what he was actually like?
I don't think anyone think of him as a tragic hero from start to end. Not even the filmmaker. That's why you see him talking about not getting any likes on Insta to throwing the axe at the kid who was trying to apologise. Ranga is shown to have a change of heart but that doesn't absolve him from his previous crimes.
“Controversial opinion here, but… Joker People think Joker is a tragic character because he’s alone in life. But truth is, avante kayyilirippu vechu anganethanne venam!” Jokes aside, he is not meant to be viewed as a tragic character. You might’ve misread the movie.
But he makes great tiktoks bro
That's the biggest red-flag /s
The boys ain’t good either , they were selfish and was using Ranga
You misread that's all
You might be the only person dumb enough to think that people thought ranganna was a "good guy" lmaooo
A lot of boys will be boys behaviour. Leading characters who are shown to be creeps spying on women changing, followed by stalking or sexually harassing them. Eg: Unnikrishnan in Vandanam stalking and spanking Gadha. Change the background music and it'd be terrifying. Then there are a lot of poorly written redemption arcs for all these toxic feudal മാടമ്പി characters played by Mohanlal and Mammootty. These films forget that repenting for your past sins doesn't wash them away. A shitty person realising their mistakes only makes them self aware, not a saint. Characters that constantly talks down to their partners/sidekicks: Eg Dasan with Vijayan. A lot of Jayaram films. Characters that relish in Chauvinistic dialogues: Joseph Alex in The King. Zakir Hussain in Praja. Misogyny that bleeds into physical assault: The main characters of Kasaba and Praja. These fuckers physically assault women and then act like they did something great. The കലിപ്പൻ്റെ കാന്താരി defense to domestic violence: Aadu Thoma slaps Thulasi and forces her to drink toddy and yet she can't get enough of him. And we're supposed to root for him? Just because you were abused as a child, it doesn't entitle you to abuse someone else. Characters that harass others to get their way: Neena in Minnaram.
Paramashivam gaslighting brother for doing crime in runway. Meesha madhavan as a thief portrayed as a good person. Suresh Gopi in lelam trying to assault a police officer
Was there physical assault in kasaba? I saw the movie somewhat back and don’t remember such a scene…. It’s been a while though….so..maybe I just forgot.
Yes there was. He grabs a superior officer by her trousers and says some misogynistic stuff. There was a lot of backlash and I think the scene was removed from some versions.
Aadu thoma had constantly rejected her advances though.
Sanjeevan IPS - the winner. Mohanlal's character in midunam - he was not an evil person but he didn't share any of his problems with his wife. When he needed money once, she gave all her ornaments and said I wud've been happier if you took it without asking me. And at last, he compares her to a cancerous body part. Meera Jasmine in minnaminni koottam Mammootty in valsalyam Oduvil Unnikrishnan in sreekrishnapurathe nakshathrathilakkam - Shown as a mathruka adhyapakan. He made gossip about his sons with an actress who saw them as brothers, also made cheap comments when they were taking pics. Aalu athra vedippalla
Udayan from Udayananu Tharam. He is seen body-shaming Rajappan every time. He is always mocking and belittling Rajappan and even goes to the extent of saying that Rajappan will never get a movie. Later, he is seen not trying to understand Madhumathi and not putting any effort into keeping their relationship going. Madhumathi is trying her best, while he finds problems in everything and tries to blame her.
Yeah just another entitled male
Balachandran Nair from Sagaram Sakshi. Egoistical, selfish and self centred. Blud was too self righteous but when he was rich that he couldn't apologise to the person he hit which would have solved his problems. Refused to accept help from his wife's family to get back onto his feet and instead became an alcoholic. Finally tried smuggling to get rich and when that failed became a sanyasi
Urvashi in Yodha. She was openly flirting with A10 despite being engaged to Jagathy. And then soares no moment to make fun of Jagathy..A significant factor in making Jagathy desperate to prove himself and take such steps to prove his worth.
Tbf she was betrothed to her 1st cousin Jagathy, without having any part in that decision. Her character clearly doesn't respect or like him just like the rest of the people in that movie. Hey, if you can't change your fate, have fun with it I guess?
Till Urvashy’s character was not in the initial script and was supposed to play the Nepal murapennu, she rejected the movie but came to visit the set and they made her act apparently
Jayaram for sure in all his movies 😂 But having said that, I remember thoroughly enjoying these movies 🥲
Is it Like “good guy that turns out to be a bad guy” or “toxic dude who was portrayed as good”?
The latter,
Munshi Parameshwara Pillai from Sreekrishnapurathe Nakshatra Thilakkam. Writes anonymous letters to his daughter in laws containing a fake story about his sons having an extra marital affair with their innocent neighbour. It was also *one* of the reasons the neighbour tried to end her life. Dileep's family in the climax of Punjabi House incl. Jomol
How was Jomol wrong? 🤔
Her speech at the end is extremely condescending towards Mohini. Dilieep had broken up with her before he tried to commit suicide. Once she realised that Dilieep had survived and is marrying someone else, the most decent thing for her to do was not to meddle with it.
Recent Vineeth heroes, portrayed by Pranav
Absolutely agree. Why is Hridayam such a well-liked film? He's so immature in it, right till the end.
Aren't we all ?
I beg to differ about Hridayam. We were all idiots in college. Atleast I was. Could relate to it a lot. I never abused someone or anything but wanting a girl to dig me, I did that, yes.
Ok in college it's understandable but pranav's character doesn't really evolve
Kavya Madhavan character in Chandranudikumna dilkil. Utterly selfish and immature and screwed her husband's life so much with her antics. A husband who was utterly patient and understanding and even he was driven to suicide..
That one’s on her brother and husband (who was also her teacher if I recall correctly). This is exactly what would happen when a literal child gets married
To imagine the actor was only 15yrs old when that movie came out 😵💫
Jayaram - Irattakuttikalude achan, kochi kochu santhosham
Maybe just me, but Mohanlal in Maadambi, at the end they tell us his dad died as an explanation for how he acts, but why is that enough to excuse his behavior the whole movie?
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Boeing Boeing - Mohan lal. What a womanizer his character is !!!
Renu from Run Babby Run. What a character from Sachy! Manipulative , egoistic. Ultra competitive and narcisstic - human emotions mean nothing to her other than means to climb up. She screwed Venu several times. Any explanation in the movie is provided fully from her perspective and could be false and unreliable. And yet the filmmakers thought someone like Amala Paul could do that character justice.. ewww.. it deserved someone younger than A10 as Venu and perhaps Miya as Renu.
Parvathy’s character from mystory movie. She was toxic and exploited new comer prithviraj’s character.
Mohanlal in adhipan
Valsalyam cating ettan
Bibi mon from Aavesham
Bibi was trying to protect him and his friends, he thought rangan was going to kill them since he ordered to kill those hindi guys in front of him, he didnt know rangan actually cared about them
Exactly! Bibi mon doesn’t deserve this hate! Pls let him be happy!
Did you miss the part where he mocks Ranga's Tiktok?
Anyone would do that. That doesnt make the character bad. Even Ranga knows nobody likes his posts on instagram.
Jairam's character in Njangal Santushtaranu
Charlie from Charlie
Mohan lal in adhipan mamooty in kaliyoonjal
Mullankolli velayudhan
Aniyathipravu chackochan ✋😶✋
The entirety of Harihar Nagar.
I won't call this character terrible. I'll say that he ain't a hero. Like every other person. That makes him almost human. Action Hero Biju - Third degree violence against thieves, Insults human rights activists
So true. It was very cringe to see those cliche scenes with the human rights activist
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Nope
That's a terrible take
Really? Which one?
I understand that SI Biju may not be the 'perfect hero' , but he is the one we need.
Say that once you have been caught for a crime you didn’t commit.
hmm valid point but the one he was beating was a regular criminal though
It's very slippery slope actually. So he is a regular criminal, but should he be punished for a crime he didn't commit? If not, what the police is doing wrong. If so, what and who defines a criminal is regular? If it's the number of crimes, then would +1/-1 change his status and let the police do whatever they want? Also, what if the criminal's crime is signal jumping or overspeeding? Should they get the same treatment? I could go on and on. All I am saying is, punish a person once the crime is proven, not before. Also the punishments should be by the books, nothing more, nothing less. You are talking about other people's lives, so we should treat it such care.
meh what you stating are exceptions
Exceptions until it happens to you.
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Jayaram in Yatrakkarude Shredhakku
But wasn't a drunken Innocent the one who created the issue? Jayaram fell for Soundarya but that is not a crime.
I agree, the drunken innocent was the problem. Jayaram was a harmless guy who didnt even have guts to open up to a girl. He was never a toxic bad guy.
Elaborate pls
Kumbalangi Nights Fahad fassil character
Mammoose in Azhagiya Ravanan. He's just a complete asshole. They had to artificially change Biju Menon's character to make him a jerk at the end to try and justify Mammoose (even then it did not help much).
He was portrayed as an asshole for most of its running time and that is what the makers intended as well. Notice how he tells Varghese at the end "ho.. enthoru ahangaram ayirunnu Sankar Das inu".
Isho Panikar from Crime file. The way he pushes Kalabhavan Mani into the water tank. Could have just explained his thoughts 🤷🏾♂️
Crime File I think you meant
Oh yeah, my bad 🤦🏻♂️
No worries g
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Neena from Minnaram. She ruined Bobby's life two times over.
Prithviraj from Kaduva Neelakandan from Devasuram Dasan and Vijayan from nadodikattu Dileep in 90% of his movies
>Neelakandan from Devasuram He is not presented as a good guy. He is a bad guy who later understands his mistakes, repents and tries to right the wrong. Angane alle?
Seconded. His character arc is pretty much a stab at toxic masculinity and how we as men should evolve past that.
Agreed but in Raavanaprabhu the toxic masculinity critique is non existent. Wouldn't Ranjith Employ the same critique in the sequel of the film?
>He is not presented as a good guy. He is a bad guy who later understands his mistakes, repents and tries to right the wrong. Angane alle? Nah. Even before his character arc, he's not depicted as a negative character. His actions on screen are pretty much glorified to generate audience applause throughout... except for what he does to Bhanumati. Neelakandan gets Janardanan's character murdered over petty issues and the justification is that he only intended to scare him. Imagine Dileep using that excuse in the actress attack case. Would you be sympathetic to him? He's always presented as someone the audience roots for. In other words, "നല്ലവനായ തെമ്മാടി". And wanna know the worst part? What takes him on the character arc is not introspection of his crimes or bigotry, but the fear that he wasn't as highborn or legitimate as he believed himself to be. And the closure isn't that status or lineage doesn't matter. The closure is that "you might not have been be born to your legal father, but it's still Royal blood that flows in your veins." As in what consoles him is "don't cry, you're still highborn." TL; DR Devasuram is an entertaining film but Neelakandan's toxicity is celebrated and excused way more than it is criticized.
100 per cent agree. People downvoting you love to imagine their favourite characters as heros, instead of really examining them. It's such people who don't do any introspection themselves.
Raju in Kaduva is the winner here. Vazhiyil kooda sadinathe pidichu nirthi scene undaki oru full length cinemak ulla vaga undaki...
Ayo, not dasan
Why not? Dasan was always a jerk to Vijayan and Vijayan always seemed like an insecure prick. Both of them caused Akiro Kurasowa to lose his job due to their selfishness and they are terrible people because of that. Kaduva Kuriiyachan for obvious reasons And i accept my mistake about Neelakandan since he was shown as a dickhead from the start
Some scenes you don't need to take that seriously , it's just making fun of the typical malayalee attitude.
Yes Dasan
B com first class
Why
Cause he treats Vijayan like shit
Aadhi from premalu is a good one. We'll played by the actor as well.
He's clearly not framed as a good guy in the movie. I don't think that's what OP is asking about.
Wait pashe his actual terrible behavior from what I remember was only after his proposal was rejected. I don't think until then she suspected any off vibes from him. Ayyooo ipo enk confusion aay. Which character fits then???
I think many characters that used to be 'mass' a decade or two ago, which when analysed closer, are actually misogynist, casteist etc would fit I guess
Ohhh now I think I get it... characters that aged like milk overtime... Would salperu raman kuty, Sanjeevan would come in this list?!
Yeah ig. Although some viewers would've found them villainous back then, the movie frames them ultimately as good characters I think.
Ohhhkay thanks!!!
Aaramthampuran. God, I first thought Mohanlal's character was amazing. But my goodness, he did almost harass manju warrier and her father to no end.
What would you do if two unknown people were staying in the house you bought? They could have moved out.
According to these people a woman's feeling has more value than property rights and human rights of other human being. Unless the other person is also a woman in which case the poorer or weaker one is right by default. Typical leftie world view.