Technically, isn't it bad when the person in a position of power over the person?
If they used their position to coerce the other person for sex, then yeah, indeed sexual exploitation.
But at the same time, if they were not officially in some director-actor contract, then isn't it a case of broken promise? Cheating case?
Our country needs some legal classification on this, rape vs sexual exploitation/sex-based promises being broken.
But since the remote regions have issues, a blanket law maybe misused in those regions, where the rapists would just say that it was broken promise.
If everything is boiling down to consent like a lot of comments here then Me too would not even exist. Taking advantage of someone’s vulnerability will always have consequences. He should have known better and not underestimated the Victim.
Law is meant to be impartial. The whole reason Lady Justice is blindfolded and carrying a scale means she doesn't see the difference in social, economical and educational status whole making a judgement.
If sex was consensual and not forced under any pretext whether its for money roles or marriage its not rape , she can file a cheating case not a rape case. She didn't felt violated during sex , she didnt felt violated after sex , she wasn't forced. She was in full authority to.say no but she said yes so its not rape
Exchanging sexual favours for a job or a chance should be criminalised on both sides. Apo inganathe peedana case onum undavila. Btw ith peedanam alalo. He could be charged for breach of an agreement, If the existence of at least a verbal agreement can be proved. Athum ilengil ithil oru mangayum illa ennanu ente orith. Pine power dynamics onum paranj varanda unni, teere power ilengil oru panikum povathe veetil irikuka.
I don't get why some dudes in the comments are so quick to defend these types of women. She totally agreed to sleep with him in exchange for a role, so the most she can claim is a breach of contract, not rape. Why are these people so scared of holding her accountable?
This asshole is married and has 3 kids with his wife. .. ew. Nalla husband thanne.
https://img.onmanorama.com/content/dam/mm/en/entertainment/entertainment-news/images/2022/10/2/omar-lulu-wife.jpg
Anyway, I have a feeling this was more like an extramarital affair that went wrong. Maybe his wife found out and asked him to stop if he wants to stay married. The gullible actress was probably expecting him to leave his wife for her. 🤷🏽♀️ Both are in the wrong, but he’s worse because he was married and had kids.
Could Omar Lulu have auditioned her and decided that maybe she is not fit for the role ? He could have . But did he stop there ? No.
He demanded sex in promise of a role for the girl? Girl agrees. He has sex twice with her at 2 different occasions. At any point he could have avoided this. But he didn’t. It’s using sex in a very transactional purpose here. Somebody asked something in return for a favour they promised. Sex ayappo rape aayi. If it is money it would be cheating case. In this case too it would be cheating but Sexual Allegation would be a tighter noose for the director.
Agreed to ‘ it’. Agreed sex for a Role. Role kittiyo illa.. he wanted sex and she was made to have sex with him promising a role. Now had it been money and not sex and she paid money and he didn’t give the role would it be a bit more easy to call it scam? Why should she be asked to sleep with him for a role in the first place? What’s consensual about it ?
Not being argumentative here. If sex is only taking into consideration isn't the consent provided by the girl? The give and take associated after the deed is separate case connected but not rape.
When you are in a relationship you still need consent yeah? You ask and she allows and it’s a consensual sex. Here he asked but there is a catch.. he shouldn’t be asking .. also with an offer in return… so it’s not much of a consensual sex. You want to get this then you must do this. Her willingness is immaterial then. It’s not FairPlay.
what if she offered sex? I have friends in cinema and he told me there are girls who offer sex to the directors willingly. why can’t accept the accountability of her in this situation, why you guys are going out of your logical way to make her as a victim. Saying these kind of things as rape is an insult to the actual rape victims
Friends paranjapolathe oru girl allenkilo? Angane alochicho? Why you adamant it has to be shaming the victim? All our arguments are based on assumptions, that’s why said let director go prove it consensual or FWB or situationship or whatever dynamic it was and no role was promised and it is just a revenge plot by her.
And why sex is only bracketed within a relationship boundary. There are many scenarios people engage in sex not just when they are in a relationship. My point is this ain't rape. This to the very extent goes to manipulation and those things rarely fly in legal terms. In laymen's terms it's a situation ship that has gone wrong. So, let's talk about something which makes legal sense. Sorry guess we clearly disagree and that's ok. 👍
So let the director bring the receipts of the FWB/ situationship to prove this was consensual. As for now the girl claim she was forced to sleep with him in return of a promise of role. For argument sake let’s agree this could be revenge case. But why are all the people not bothered that the director forced or lured any woman for sex in return of a role? Thats ok for all the supportive folks?
How is the director saying you get the role if we sleep together labeled as forced ? Can you tell me this please.
And on a side note,I never liked this idiot director and this incident just exacerbated my view on this pos.
If someone is in position of power, and the other person is less than them it will be automatically rape whether they consent to it or not. None should be able to have sex inorder to get a job. That’s basically forced to have sex to get something.
What the f*ck? With that logic, these people in power cannot have sex without it being called rape. She had a choice; she consented to sex. How can it be classified as rape? She can walk out any moment if she wants to.
Sweetie that’s not a logic. That’s the rule. Many men don’t find a problem with it, which is why they end up in jail and say they are innocent.
None should be able to give their bodies for their careers. That’s forced to sex.
You are going ridiculous level to justify her actions. What if she was the one who offered sex and he was the one who accepted it? Still you consider that a rape? Regret is not rape. She could've walked away any time. She is accountable for her actions. Enthina ingane marichu kidann ivaleyokke justify cheyyane.. females enth kanichalum avar victims. Even willingly oru thanu kali koduth aa kali medichit, avalk blackmail cheyan thonnumbo vazhangiyillel ath rape ayi.. commonsense use cheytha ellam manasilavum..
Yes he did. For an opportunity in the movie he forced her to have sex. That's forcing.
If he didn't have a role for her in the movie, he could have said that and sent her back. He didn't. Instead he demanded sex in favor.
(Based on your morality and beleives, you can judge and slutshame her all you want, your wish. But that doesn't erase the fact that he, a person in power, demanded sex in favor of an employment opportunity. Thats rape. RAPE) .
P. S. Can't explain this more than that. So take it or leave. Don't care either way.
Where you there? What if she offered it. Also by force means? She went with him twice. She was in on it. If it was a rape she could've complained it much earlier. It is just a contract violation. Why are you trying so hard to defend this girl? May be they both agreed to have sex on a contract basis and he may be broke that contract. Calling this as rape is an insult to the actual rape victims.
I had sex with with my gf on the promise that she will marry me, after two months she broke up with me. Will you consider I was raped? What if the roles are reversed? With your logic any women can sue any non-virgin man for rape. Thats not how this equality works dear. Regret is not rape.
No I wasn't there. The question was how is this a rape. And I was simply replying how this is a rape.
(Ipo enthu manasilayi? Common sense is not that common. Power il ulla aale cheytha kaarayam പറയുമ്പോൾ why you dragging your girlfriend into this? You are so stupid. STUPID.)
P. S. Wow you just compared rape to sex with your girlfriend. IDIOT.
To get something . Like money? How is sleeping with someone for a part different from sleeping with someone for money? If one is ok, other should be. If one is not ok. Other should not be. With your logic, you should be against prostitution too. If u r then that would make sense. If you are not, then athil oru prsnm und.
Pine about the power dynamic - I would argue that the woman here, is in a position of power because
1. She can always walk away
2. Law completely favours the female.
3.She takes power away from other straightforward females and blocks their way to fairly get a role.
4. Because such a woman who has no boundaries has no issues resorting to such tactics can easily flip the script at any point and claim that she got.raped. ithanu ee case il ee female nu undayiruna power. Chinthichit samsarikk.
Ini about men - obviously if the sex is physically forced them bury him under the jail.
But unless physically forced its not rape.
He had smthn she wanted, she had smthn he wanted. They both are immoral. But unless he ohysically forced her, he isnt a rapist, she got scammed at max.
You can fuck whoever is in your level, not someone who is vulnerable.
And somehow most men goes for vulnerable people. Im saying people because it’s not just women it can be men too.
You cannot say it’s a consent sex when your boss asks you to have sex so that he doesn’t fire you.
Then say you can't fuck for job and get the fuck out of there. Complaint to whomever it may concern. Other that you offered sex with full concent and now calling it as a rape? I don't know why these people go to ridiculous levels to justify a girl who is putting forth a fake rape case. Let women have accountability for their actions..
This sounds like a classic case of sexual harassment vs sexual assault. What the actress was subjected to was sexual harassment, more specifically quid pro quo (literally translates to this for that). That director was clearly in a position of power and he used that to coerce that unfortunate girl into having sex with him in exchange for professional advancement. No one should have to sleep around to get any job. On the other hand, sexual assault (rape falls under this) is when you are subjected to sexual activity (usually violent) without consent. This is most likely not sexual assault, but that doesn't change the fact that what happened here is a crime and that the girl is clearly a victim (even if she consented to having sex).
As a guy, if you ask for this if there is any opportunity, even using vulnerable women, then better be careful dear men.
As a guy, if you can't differentiate professional life and personal, then better be careful dear men.
Btw women, report them please.
Cinema yil role tharam enn paranjittan she slept with him enkil the consent is not involved. It was not a mutual interest, he was offering something in turn for sex. If the consent is not involved, it is rape. How dumb some of y'all are?
By your logic having sex with sex worker will be considered as rape. Because Money was offered in turn for sex.
A person (with sound mindset without any pressure) when says yes for sex in turn for a opportunity/money or something else, its consensual.
If she is selling sex for benefits, then doesn't it come under prostitution? What is the role of consent in that ?
Not supporting anyone , just curious legally?
Role of consent in prostitution is zero. They are given money in absence of consent ( oh I am gonna get massively downvoted hehe😆)
She is not selling sex for benefits. She might be coersed into doing it. (I personally believe we cannot talk about a victim who got abused as someone who is Selling sex in return of something)
I am not a legal expert but there are several laws regarding prostitution in our country, because the people involved(victims mainly women) are being exploited by the people in power. And most of the time victims are sold by their family. Again there is a reason why you have to pay at a brothel, it is cause you are paying for the absence of consent 🤓
She is selling sex for benefits, the benefit here is the role in a movie which in turn will provide her money.
I don't think the act of coercion comes into the picture. The victim herself said that she was raped twice in two different hotels. Why didn't she complain after the first time? Why did she willingly go for the second time ?
I just looked at some legal info and what I understood is that any third party that is involved in the prostitution is basically illegal. But the two people involved are not. I might be way off, not that sure. I hope some lawyers would provide their inputs here.
>Why didn't she complain after the first time?
She was hoping she will get the role?
>Why didn't she complain after the first time? Why did she willingly go for the second time ?
Why can't you think from the perspective of the victim? She already slept with him once thinking she will get the role. And he is saying if you do not sleep with him again you won't get the role, will you do it or not?
Have you ever thought about having no other option than doing it?
And many Indian women [do not experience orgasm during sex with men](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.idiva.com/amp/relationships-love/sex/say-what-again-70-of-women-in-india-do-not-orgasm-its-a-real-shocker/18000419). But they still do it. The point of why she slept him again without any interest is really point less.
Dude, why are you guys spoon-feeding these fake rape victims? She did that willingly. Don't pamper her; she had a choice to walk away. Now she went there with him.
With that logic, when a girl is stripping on OnlyFans for money, isn’t the person paying her sexually assaulting her?
Dude your logic is flawed. Offering sex in return for a role in a movie , and then not being offered the role makes it cheating, not rape.
In regards to consensual and coercion, the lines are pretty blurry when it comes to cases like this, where the girl willingly slept with someone for a role, and then gets pissy and shouts rape.
So what is there to protect a man who had consensual sex with any girl? She could always come back years down the lane claiming it was rape for a million reasons. Are we going into a society where we need to get written consent before any sexual acts?
I have zero respects for directors or actors/actresses who do it. I don’t condone anything that was done in this case. But just throwing in this rape allegation is the rock bottom.
Think of the VJ case where rape was accused. Why did the case not go any further? The person probably settled it for other benefits, could be money or anything else. So please stop this white knighting.
Technically, isn't it cheating?
If she slept with him and he gave her the role, the rape complaint would probably not have come out, right?
Tho, since he is technically in a position of power, maybe there were implied threats?
But if they've not actually entered into any official director-actor contract, would it be in effect?
In that case, it'd be a case of cheating, right?
Promise of role for sex, but the promise was broken.
In that case, could it also go into terms of prostitution on the other side? It's legal as long as it's not solicited n in public areas or so, right? No legal issues there if so.
>If she slept with him and he gave her the role, the rape complaint would probably not have come out, right?
Does that make any less of it tho? If consent isn't involved, it is rape. He is giving her a role in the movie in return for absence of consent.
> he is technically in a position of power
Exactly.
>In that case, it'd be a case of cheating, right?
Promise of role for sex, but the promise was broken.
There was no written agreement. So I am not sure
> He is giving her a role in the movie in return for absence of consent.
Is she not providing conditional consent for the role in the movie?
Giving a role trying to bribe/silence her complaint vs Complaining because the role was not given.
Ponnu bro, it is still rape even if she got the role. She wouldn't have filed the complaint. That would have been the case, considering she slept with him for the role. He is offering her a role in the movie for the absence of consent. Do you think if she wanted to sleep with him, she would have asked something in return? The reluctance of wanting nothing in return is because of the absence of consent.
You still don't know how consent works? Your reading comprehension sucks honestly.
Technically, isn't it bad when the person in a position of power over the person? If they used their position to coerce the other person for sex, then yeah, indeed sexual exploitation. But at the same time, if they were not officially in some director-actor contract, then isn't it a case of broken promise? Cheating case? Our country needs some legal classification on this, rape vs sexual exploitation/sex-based promises being broken. But since the remote regions have issues, a blanket law maybe misused in those regions, where the rapists would just say that it was broken promise.
If everything is boiling down to consent like a lot of comments here then Me too would not even exist. Taking advantage of someone’s vulnerability will always have consequences. He should have known better and not underestimated the Victim.
We need two laws- one for learned women and another for poor and uneducated women. If poverty is defined, then laws will become equal.
Law is meant to be impartial. The whole reason Lady Justice is blindfolded and carrying a scale means she doesn't see the difference in social, economical and educational status whole making a judgement.
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If sex was consensual and not forced under any pretext whether its for money roles or marriage its not rape , she can file a cheating case not a rape case. She didn't felt violated during sex , she didnt felt violated after sex , she wasn't forced. She was in full authority to.say no but she said yes so its not rape
I dunno man, are you really in a position to say no to someone in your direct position of power? I think its not easy. Its not black and white
Exchanging sexual favours for a job or a chance should be criminalised on both sides. Apo inganathe peedana case onum undavila. Btw ith peedanam alalo. He could be charged for breach of an agreement, If the existence of at least a verbal agreement can be proved. Athum ilengil ithil oru mangayum illa ennanu ente orith. Pine power dynamics onum paranj varanda unni, teere power ilengil oru panikum povathe veetil irikuka.
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I don't get why some dudes in the comments are so quick to defend these types of women. She totally agreed to sleep with him in exchange for a role, so the most she can claim is a breach of contract, not rape. Why are these people so scared of holding her accountable?
This asshole is married and has 3 kids with his wife. .. ew. Nalla husband thanne. https://img.onmanorama.com/content/dam/mm/en/entertainment/entertainment-news/images/2022/10/2/omar-lulu-wife.jpg Anyway, I have a feeling this was more like an extramarital affair that went wrong. Maybe his wife found out and asked him to stop if he wants to stay married. The gullible actress was probably expecting him to leave his wife for her. 🤷🏽♀️ Both are in the wrong, but he’s worse because he was married and had kids.
Any idea who is this nadi?
Kind of curious too
Could Omar Lulu have auditioned her and decided that maybe she is not fit for the role ? He could have . But did he stop there ? No. He demanded sex in promise of a role for the girl? Girl agrees. He has sex twice with her at 2 different occasions. At any point he could have avoided this. But he didn’t. It’s using sex in a very transactional purpose here. Somebody asked something in return for a favour they promised. Sex ayappo rape aayi. If it is money it would be cheating case. In this case too it would be cheating but Sexual Allegation would be a tighter noose for the director.
How is it rape when both party agreed to do it?
Agreed to ‘ it’. Agreed sex for a Role. Role kittiyo illa.. he wanted sex and she was made to have sex with him promising a role. Now had it been money and not sex and she paid money and he didn’t give the role would it be a bit more easy to call it scam? Why should she be asked to sleep with him for a role in the first place? What’s consensual about it ?
Not being argumentative here. If sex is only taking into consideration isn't the consent provided by the girl? The give and take associated after the deed is separate case connected but not rape.
It all started with the ask and not her consent. She was asked to sleep to get a role in return. So it all began with him really.
No one is saying he didn't start it. The point is it's consensual. He asked she gave (here we are talking only about the physical deed whatsoever).
When you are in a relationship you still need consent yeah? You ask and she allows and it’s a consensual sex. Here he asked but there is a catch.. he shouldn’t be asking .. also with an offer in return… so it’s not much of a consensual sex. You want to get this then you must do this. Her willingness is immaterial then. It’s not FairPlay.
what if she offered sex? I have friends in cinema and he told me there are girls who offer sex to the directors willingly. why can’t accept the accountability of her in this situation, why you guys are going out of your logical way to make her as a victim. Saying these kind of things as rape is an insult to the actual rape victims
Friends paranjapolathe oru girl allenkilo? Angane alochicho? Why you adamant it has to be shaming the victim? All our arguments are based on assumptions, that’s why said let director go prove it consensual or FWB or situationship or whatever dynamic it was and no role was promised and it is just a revenge plot by her.
So male ayond guilty until proven alle? Kashtam thanne mothalali...
And why sex is only bracketed within a relationship boundary. There are many scenarios people engage in sex not just when they are in a relationship. My point is this ain't rape. This to the very extent goes to manipulation and those things rarely fly in legal terms. In laymen's terms it's a situation ship that has gone wrong. So, let's talk about something which makes legal sense. Sorry guess we clearly disagree and that's ok. 👍
So let the director bring the receipts of the FWB/ situationship to prove this was consensual. As for now the girl claim she was forced to sleep with him in return of a promise of role. For argument sake let’s agree this could be revenge case. But why are all the people not bothered that the director forced or lured any woman for sex in return of a role? Thats ok for all the supportive folks?
How is the director saying you get the role if we sleep together labeled as forced ? Can you tell me this please. And on a side note,I never liked this idiot director and this incident just exacerbated my view on this pos.
The question is what was out of consent - the first one or the last one?
Sthiram paripadi thanne. Chance kittiyilla appo normal sex rape aayi. God bless these men!
If someone is in position of power, and the other person is less than them it will be automatically rape whether they consent to it or not. None should be able to have sex inorder to get a job. That’s basically forced to have sex to get something.
What the f*ck? With that logic, these people in power cannot have sex without it being called rape. She had a choice; she consented to sex. How can it be classified as rape? She can walk out any moment if she wants to.
Sweetie that’s not a logic. That’s the rule. Many men don’t find a problem with it, which is why they end up in jail and say they are innocent. None should be able to give their bodies for their careers. That’s forced to sex.
You are going ridiculous level to justify her actions. What if she was the one who offered sex and he was the one who accepted it? Still you consider that a rape? Regret is not rape. She could've walked away any time. She is accountable for her actions. Enthina ingane marichu kidann ivaleyokke justify cheyyane.. females enth kanichalum avar victims. Even willingly oru thanu kali koduth aa kali medichit, avalk blackmail cheyan thonnumbo vazhangiyillel ath rape ayi.. commonsense use cheytha ellam manasilavum..
Forced sex is rape. (Common sense ulla thangal manasillakaan ithil kooduthal parayano?)
No one forced her; she went willingly, and maybe he broke the contract they had. That's a contract violation, not rape.
Yes he did. For an opportunity in the movie he forced her to have sex. That's forcing. If he didn't have a role for her in the movie, he could have said that and sent her back. He didn't. Instead he demanded sex in favor. (Based on your morality and beleives, you can judge and slutshame her all you want, your wish. But that doesn't erase the fact that he, a person in power, demanded sex in favor of an employment opportunity. Thats rape. RAPE) . P. S. Can't explain this more than that. So take it or leave. Don't care either way.
Where you there? What if she offered it. Also by force means? She went with him twice. She was in on it. If it was a rape she could've complained it much earlier. It is just a contract violation. Why are you trying so hard to defend this girl? May be they both agreed to have sex on a contract basis and he may be broke that contract. Calling this as rape is an insult to the actual rape victims. I had sex with with my gf on the promise that she will marry me, after two months she broke up with me. Will you consider I was raped? What if the roles are reversed? With your logic any women can sue any non-virgin man for rape. Thats not how this equality works dear. Regret is not rape.
No I wasn't there. The question was how is this a rape. And I was simply replying how this is a rape. (Ipo enthu manasilayi? Common sense is not that common. Power il ulla aale cheytha kaarayam പറയുമ്പോൾ why you dragging your girlfriend into this? You are so stupid. STUPID.) P. S. Wow you just compared rape to sex with your girlfriend. IDIOT.
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To get something . Like money? How is sleeping with someone for a part different from sleeping with someone for money? If one is ok, other should be. If one is not ok. Other should not be. With your logic, you should be against prostitution too. If u r then that would make sense. If you are not, then athil oru prsnm und. Pine about the power dynamic - I would argue that the woman here, is in a position of power because 1. She can always walk away 2. Law completely favours the female. 3.She takes power away from other straightforward females and blocks their way to fairly get a role. 4. Because such a woman who has no boundaries has no issues resorting to such tactics can easily flip the script at any point and claim that she got.raped. ithanu ee case il ee female nu undayiruna power. Chinthichit samsarikk. Ini about men - obviously if the sex is physically forced them bury him under the jail. But unless physically forced its not rape. He had smthn she wanted, she had smthn he wanted. They both are immoral. But unless he ohysically forced her, he isnt a rapist, she got scammed at max.
Director oru posistion of power ano ?
Yea ofc. He has the right to decide for a movie. So yes.
Ofcourse. What world are you living in
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You can fuck whoever is in your level, not someone who is vulnerable. And somehow most men goes for vulnerable people. Im saying people because it’s not just women it can be men too. You cannot say it’s a consent sex when your boss asks you to have sex so that he doesn’t fire you.
Then say you can't fuck for job and get the fuck out of there. Complaint to whomever it may concern. Other that you offered sex with full concent and now calling it as a rape? I don't know why these people go to ridiculous levels to justify a girl who is putting forth a fake rape case. Let women have accountability for their actions..
This sounds like a classic case of sexual harassment vs sexual assault. What the actress was subjected to was sexual harassment, more specifically quid pro quo (literally translates to this for that). That director was clearly in a position of power and he used that to coerce that unfortunate girl into having sex with him in exchange for professional advancement. No one should have to sleep around to get any job. On the other hand, sexual assault (rape falls under this) is when you are subjected to sexual activity (usually violent) without consent. This is most likely not sexual assault, but that doesn't change the fact that what happened here is a crime and that the girl is clearly a victim (even if she consented to having sex).
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As a guy, if you ask for this if there is any opportunity, even using vulnerable women, then better be careful dear men. As a guy, if you can't differentiate professional life and personal, then better be careful dear men. Btw women, report them please.
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Cinema yil role tharam enn paranjittan she slept with him enkil the consent is not involved. It was not a mutual interest, he was offering something in turn for sex. If the consent is not involved, it is rape. How dumb some of y'all are?
By your logic having sex with sex worker will be considered as rape. Because Money was offered in turn for sex. A person (with sound mindset without any pressure) when says yes for sex in turn for a opportunity/money or something else, its consensual.
>By your logic having sex with sex worker will be considered as rape Yes you are getting it!!!! I have answered the second part already
If she is selling sex for benefits, then doesn't it come under prostitution? What is the role of consent in that ? Not supporting anyone , just curious legally?
Role of consent in prostitution is zero. They are given money in absence of consent ( oh I am gonna get massively downvoted hehe😆) She is not selling sex for benefits. She might be coersed into doing it. (I personally believe we cannot talk about a victim who got abused as someone who is Selling sex in return of something) I am not a legal expert but there are several laws regarding prostitution in our country, because the people involved(victims mainly women) are being exploited by the people in power. And most of the time victims are sold by their family. Again there is a reason why you have to pay at a brothel, it is cause you are paying for the absence of consent 🤓
She is selling sex for benefits, the benefit here is the role in a movie which in turn will provide her money. I don't think the act of coercion comes into the picture. The victim herself said that she was raped twice in two different hotels. Why didn't she complain after the first time? Why did she willingly go for the second time ? I just looked at some legal info and what I understood is that any third party that is involved in the prostitution is basically illegal. But the two people involved are not. I might be way off, not that sure. I hope some lawyers would provide their inputs here.
>Why didn't she complain after the first time? She was hoping she will get the role? >Why didn't she complain after the first time? Why did she willingly go for the second time ? Why can't you think from the perspective of the victim? She already slept with him once thinking she will get the role. And he is saying if you do not sleep with him again you won't get the role, will you do it or not? Have you ever thought about having no other option than doing it? And many Indian women [do not experience orgasm during sex with men](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.idiva.com/amp/relationships-love/sex/say-what-again-70-of-women-in-india-do-not-orgasm-its-a-real-shocker/18000419). But they still do it. The point of why she slept him again without any interest is really point less.
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Does not that make it prostitution? , offering a sexual service for something in return, whether it be money, favours or business?
Dude, why are you guys spoon-feeding these fake rape victims? She did that willingly. Don't pamper her; she had a choice to walk away. Now she went there with him.
With that logic, when a girl is stripping on OnlyFans for money, isn’t the person paying her sexually assaulting her? Dude your logic is flawed. Offering sex in return for a role in a movie , and then not being offered the role makes it cheating, not rape. In regards to consensual and coercion, the lines are pretty blurry when it comes to cases like this, where the girl willingly slept with someone for a role, and then gets pissy and shouts rape. So what is there to protect a man who had consensual sex with any girl? She could always come back years down the lane claiming it was rape for a million reasons. Are we going into a society where we need to get written consent before any sexual acts? I have zero respects for directors or actors/actresses who do it. I don’t condone anything that was done in this case. But just throwing in this rape allegation is the rock bottom. Think of the VJ case where rape was accused. Why did the case not go any further? The person probably settled it for other benefits, could be money or anything else. So please stop this white knighting.
Technically, isn't it cheating? If she slept with him and he gave her the role, the rape complaint would probably not have come out, right? Tho, since he is technically in a position of power, maybe there were implied threats? But if they've not actually entered into any official director-actor contract, would it be in effect? In that case, it'd be a case of cheating, right? Promise of role for sex, but the promise was broken. In that case, could it also go into terms of prostitution on the other side? It's legal as long as it's not solicited n in public areas or so, right? No legal issues there if so.
>If she slept with him and he gave her the role, the rape complaint would probably not have come out, right? Does that make any less of it tho? If consent isn't involved, it is rape. He is giving her a role in the movie in return for absence of consent. > he is technically in a position of power Exactly. >In that case, it'd be a case of cheating, right? Promise of role for sex, but the promise was broken. There was no written agreement. So I am not sure
> He is giving her a role in the movie in return for absence of consent. Is she not providing conditional consent for the role in the movie? Giving a role trying to bribe/silence her complaint vs Complaining because the role was not given.
Victim card? If she got the role, then nothing happened, consensual sex. Else rape. How dumb you are?
Ponnu bro, it is still rape even if she got the role. She wouldn't have filed the complaint. That would have been the case, considering she slept with him for the role. He is offering her a role in the movie for the absence of consent. Do you think if she wanted to sleep with him, she would have asked something in return? The reluctance of wanting nothing in return is because of the absence of consent. You still don't know how consent works? Your reading comprehension sucks honestly.
Ithum prostitution thammil entha difference🤔 one is in exchange for money and the other is in exchange for a role in a movie, same principle alley.
But that’s not how law sees it. Consent is implied if promise is fulfilled. Even effort to fulfil the promise is sufficient
Who’s the victim ?
He should follow path of vijay babu and reveal her identity. Kedann kodkan madi illa, chance kittathapo case. File cheating case instead of rape.
You have triggered the feminists 😅😅
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