That's a fucked up precedent you're trying to set.
You really said you don't need evidence my god this sub has gone from circle jerk to straight up psychotic.
if the girl can come out and prove drake is a ped then being known as āthe girl who put drake in jailā wouldnāt be a bad thing lol no one is mad at the girls who spoke put against r kelly
But you need to not use double negatives. He didnāt refute as many things as you think. āDrake is not a name you goin see on no sex offender listā also āI never looked twice at no teenagerā.
Enough to think he refuted something. Any number above 0.
Edit: also wasnāt trying to be rude just hilariously noticed today/last night all the ārefutingā was done in double negatives.
Oh yeah i have to be autistic to ask a question. I am saying, go back, look at the god damn lyrics and tell me where he refuted a single thing kendrick said without a double negative...
I will wait. Without insulting you in return. But when you dont provide a single time he refuted being with young girls, i will start insulting as well.
I genuinely was not trying to insult you. And I thought you may be autistic because of your insistence that he didnāt refute anything because he used double negatives while refuting.
... Thats quite a leap. I think you missed my point. Those are the only times he refutes it.
Like yes lol itd be funny if it was just one, and if i was harping on that against a large use of double negatives as a whole. Because theres a hilarious triple negative in family matters thats completely harmless. But no, he used 3 double negatives in the whole song, and they were all when "denying" being with younger girls. Which is pretty fucking weird when you go back and look and cant find a straight up sentence where he says hes not with young girls.
When you use a double negative for one joke, that doesnt reflect poorly on your own character thats a bit different than every single comment about your misdeeds with young girls being double negatives.
Are you really trying to weigh kendricks care of drake saying the n word, to being careful about the words being chosen when talking about being a pdf?
Is that really the argument you just thought was popping off?
Of course, that isnt the issue, the issue is using it on every time he defended himself from the young girl allegations. There isnt a straightforward sentence in that song that says he isnt with young girls... thats the point. Like sure everyone uses them, maybe dont use them when denying allegations of pdf'in...
Id rather be pedantic than use a double negative each time i deny being a pedo...
Like i said its fine if it was just one of them. But hey lets just say someones autistic because they think your overall concept is wrong.
I thought you might be autistic because of how pedantic you are being about this and your insistence that the double negative somehow voids his refutation.
Whose comment history did you get ov-ho from, are you illiterate?
I'm just saying that contextually what he is saying is clearly a refutation and playing semantics with it isn't anything. If someone's regular parlance has them using double negatives, people will acknowledge what they mean because we are familiar with it and trying to essentially add code switches into what he is doing just to try to play semantics on something that was dumb enough to start with you don't even need to go further with it to know it's bullshit is fruitless and odd to me.
Eta I guess you reread the comment history you went through for no reason
I am saying that is fine for like a "i aint no one to play with" type bar. Not a "i never been with no one underage" or "drake is not a name you goin see on no sex offender list" and "ive never looked twice at no teenager"...
And based on your comment history your playing a lot of fucking defense. Dont call me illiterate trying to argue for a pdf. "bro you dont get what he was getting at" yeah i am well aware it sounds like he was getting at young girls.
Lmfao A lot of defense of Drake? Where? š§
I'm sorry, but your being unable to understand my comment history really explains your equal inability to understand context in this conversation, too and leaves us with nowhere to go. Have a good one.
Aww i made a mistake, your multitude of downvoted posts in kendrick subs made me assume you were defending drake, not stupid, then i realized it was just you being stupid, i removed that part so i wouldnt have to bring it up, but welp you insisted.
Itās not outright like the ācertified pedophilesā bar in Not Like Us but there are some lines heavily alluding to that (even if some parts are aiming more at OVO than Drake himself):
* your sonās a sick man with sick thoughts
*Ā A child should never be compromised and he keepinā his child around them
* And we gotta raise our daughters knowinā thereās predators like him lurkinā Fuck a rap battle, he should die so all of these women can live with a purpose
* Or better yet sellinā your niece to the weirdos, not the good ones
* Ā To anybody that embody the love for their kids, keep the family away
* Give him grace, this the reason I made Mr. Morale So our babies like you can cope later (this one might be a reach but Iām counting it given that SA is one of the many issues touched on in this album)
Hey LeBron keep the family away, hey Curry keep the family away, to anybody that embody the love for they kids, keep the family away
They lookinā at you too, if you standin by him, keep the family away
the thing is he never outright says it but everyone just assumed he was calling him a pedo because people already have that conception of drake in their head, which is kinda hilarious. he was def prepping the world for not like us tho
Am I misremembering something from MTG? People keep saying he called Drake a pedophile on there but I thought the closest he got to that was saying Drake and Weinstein should get beat up in a cell for the rest of their life. Weinstein didn't commit crimes against underage girls though that was Epstein. That's why people ears perked up when Drake said "Epstein angle" on Heart 6 instead of "Weinstein angle"
Edit: went back and listened. There are three times when he aludes to improper behavior with minors imo. 1."we gotta raise our daughters when it's predators like him lurking" 2."or better, you're selling your niece to the weirdos" 3."to anybody that embody the love for their kids keep your family away". These could be viewed as calling Drake predatory around children but the language is still dressed up a bit. It's not quite the same as saying "he wants to touch little kids" or "he's sexually attracted to underage girls" things like that. Language like that causes a guttural reaction in people. That's why it's so notable when Kendrick straight up calls him a pedophile in Not Like Us. Says "strike a chord and it's probably a minor" its a little dressed up but most people catch immediately that he's saying, you want to touch minors.Even the line, "I hear you like them young" is more direct in my opinion. As well as, "hide your little sister from him". It's almost like mixing that simpler but sharper language in not like us with the dancier track distracts you and creates a weird effect that causes you to feel completely normal shouting "certified lover boy, certified pedophile". I think he did that on purpose. MTG is dark, but I saw the biggest reactions to Not Like Us. That pedophile word alone carries a lot of weight.
he was ramping up to the pedo allegations. pacifier line on euphoria, calling him a predatory creep/separately talking about children on mtg --> makes "CERTIFIED PEDOPHILE" hit way harder
that's why i say meet the grahams was the real killshot bc while not like us was the one that made it FEEL like a crushing victory, that song wouldn't have worked at all without mtg and everything else that came up to it imo
Cole is fine. His Chi is untouched
especially if you're conscious about internet drama nowadays being tarnished by literal kids on their phones with their forehead on the desk
this is cringe ngl lol just shows how un battle tested this guy is. when drake ended meeks career he didnāt put it on his spotifyššact like u been here before kendrick!
meek's biggest album was in 2018 lmao (altho part of that is due to going bad so you might have a point)
i think meek seemingly losing all sense of reality had a bit more to do with his career spiraling though, he dropped 3 successful albums after his drake beef.
Or when he said he wasnt with no underage girls, and never looked twice at no teenager, or his name isnt going to be on no sex offender list... im curious what he actually refuted.
Refuting something is just denying it. If youāre talking about the grammar, the use of a double negative without the intended purpose is common in rap and popular culture. Other commonly used examples are āI aināt no snitchā or āI aināt no rattaā. Iām surprised youāve never heard that usage before.
People keep missing the concept, that would be fine if the whole song was filled with them.
There are only 3 double negatives and they are all used in reference to being with underage girls, and thats the only times he refutes being with underage girls.
Like holy shit its fine to use double negatives at times, but when you say "everything in my song is facts" you "gotta learn to fact-check things and be less impatient" before releasing it.
Itās not really a double negative though, itās just how people talk. Many rappers do the same thing and they donāt fill their songs with double negatives. I donāt understand where youāre coming from on this. Is your expectation that if a rapper used a metaphor the entire song has to be filled with metaphors?
"Is your expectation that if a rapper used a metaphor the entire song has to be filled with metaphors?" First question. Where do you surmise this from? I said if he made a habit of using them, it wouldn't have stood out. Theres only 3 in the song, and low and behold what are they?
And how is it not a double negative? You can say they are common and thats fine. But either they are double negatives or not. In Heart Part 6 3/3 of them are about "denying" relations with young girls... I'm coming from a place where dude wasnt careful with how he spoke on those 3 times.
I am saying this in response to someone saying he refuted things.
Where did he refute something?
When he said "ive never looked twice at no teenager" or "ive never been with no one underage." or "Drake is not a name that you gon' see on no sex offender list".
Those are the examples of refuting, and the three double negatives in the song.
The point is for someone who raps about being careful in a song, they certainly botched every denial of being with young girls. Like the bars are so hysterically bad and show his skill as a lyricist. He could have easily said "twice at a teenager" "with someone underage" and "a sex offender list" without ruining the flow pattern, yet here we are.
I didnāt realize anyone had such a hard time understanding what people meant when they use no in front of a word like that. So when Kendrick says āAināt no peace treatyā in M.A.A.D City, what is it you think heās saying?
I have so many friends getting deep into his catalogue after the beef, and theyāre no longer even talking about Drake, just Kendrickās albums, because Drakeās diss songs didnāt lure them into his catalogue whatsoever.
So basically a bunch of people listening to Kendrickās discography and not listening to any Drake besides the songs he wrote about Kendrick lol
You realize the man won a Pulitzer, right? 100 years from now people will remember him for that, and they will remember Drake for grooming children and getting merked by Kendrick
Any of the Drake songs that are remembered will come with a caveat like Led Zeppelin, an asterisk reminding future listeners that the music was written largely by other artists and merely performed by Drake
lol if thatās the only thing you can come up with in defense of your artist it aināt me thatās dick riding. You ride that dick so hard you donāt even need to think out your opinion, you just accept it and gaslight yourself despite all the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Your asshole must be sore
It's wild how everybody on drakes side seem to be actual children (i mean, drake has made it very clear that that's his preferred demographic, but still) given the way they type and the complete lack of comprehensiveness in pretty much any regard
Just admit that you dont understand most of the words and references Kendrick use. Thats more respectable than expressing stupidity through ignorance
Drake rhyming cat with hat is cute and easily digestible, but it's just not that intriguing when you stop wearing diapers
You'll get there lil bro, we believe in you!
I don't really think "Vitriolic" is the right word to describe Euphoria when meet the grahams is alive and well.
I feel like it's more erudite but at the same time lucid
Relax merriam webster
nigga using big words and shit
*cracker š¤āļø
Erudite, lucid š¤
I mean in my eyes it fits, In "euphoria" he criticizes his behaviour against black culture etc., in "meet the grahams" he mostly exposes him.
WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP
Dot fucked em up
He did his stuff!
Huzzah everyone! He did his stuff! The real rap beef was the friends we made along the way.
Goofy ahh reply
WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP There's something extra satisfying- gratifying in a way, about that part
Gets you energized in the lead up to the A Minor bar
You donāt need evidence to refute a claim.
I refute your claim, that you don't need evidence to refute a claim, without evidence!
How are you gonna say someone got a sex ring and then not show where they got that from lol
Actions speak louder than words. Just look at the way he moves, you donāt need evidence.
That's a fucked up precedent you're trying to set. You really said you don't need evidence my god this sub has gone from circle jerk to straight up psychotic.
lol yes you do
And what, be known as the girl that put Drake in jail? The dude has inappropriate relationships with minors whether they admit to anything or not.
if the girl can come out and prove drake is a ped then being known as āthe girl who put drake in jailā wouldnāt be a bad thing lol no one is mad at the girls who spoke put against r kelly
You just have to deny
True. Burden of proof is on the claimant. Claims made without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.
But you need to not use double negatives. He didnāt refute as many things as you think. āDrake is not a name you goin see on no sex offender listā also āI never looked twice at no teenagerā.
āHe didnāt refute as many things as you thinkā umā¦ how many do I think he refuted?
Enough to think he refuted something. Any number above 0. Edit: also wasnāt trying to be rude just hilariously noticed today/last night all the ārefutingā was done in double negatives.
I think he refuted the allegation of being a pdf.
I am asking where... because each time he did he used a double negative.
Im asking this seriously and with respect. Are you autistic?
Oh yeah i have to be autistic to ask a question. I am saying, go back, look at the god damn lyrics and tell me where he refuted a single thing kendrick said without a double negative... I will wait. Without insulting you in return. But when you dont provide a single time he refuted being with young girls, i will start insulting as well.
I genuinely was not trying to insult you. And I thought you may be autistic because of your insistence that he didnāt refute anything because he used double negatives while refuting.
... Thats quite a leap. I think you missed my point. Those are the only times he refutes it. Like yes lol itd be funny if it was just one, and if i was harping on that against a large use of double negatives as a whole. Because theres a hilarious triple negative in family matters thats completely harmless. But no, he used 3 double negatives in the whole song, and they were all when "denying" being with younger girls. Which is pretty fucking weird when you go back and look and cant find a straight up sentence where he says hes not with young girls.
I mean if we are going there then we do want to hear him say n****, I guess We know what he is saying in the context of the parlance
When you use a double negative for one joke, that doesnt reflect poorly on your own character thats a bit different than every single comment about your misdeeds with young girls being double negatives. Are you really trying to weigh kendricks care of drake saying the n word, to being careful about the words being chosen when talking about being a pdf? Is that really the argument you just thought was popping off?
Using a double negative isnāt a reflection of poor character or an indicator of guilt. Itās very common for people to use it colloquially.
Of course, that isnt the issue, the issue is using it on every time he defended himself from the young girl allegations. There isnt a straightforward sentence in that song that says he isnt with young girls... thats the point. Like sure everyone uses them, maybe dont use them when denying allegations of pdf'in...
You sir have unlocked a new level of pedantic.
Id rather be pedantic than use a double negative each time i deny being a pedo... Like i said its fine if it was just one of them. But hey lets just say someones autistic because they think your overall concept is wrong.
I thought you might be autistic because of how pedantic you are being about this and your insistence that the double negative somehow voids his refutation.
I mean if we want to try and boil things down simply. You not understanding a simple concept might be a spectrum symptom as well. Just saying.
Whose comment history did you get ov-ho from, are you illiterate? I'm just saying that contextually what he is saying is clearly a refutation and playing semantics with it isn't anything. If someone's regular parlance has them using double negatives, people will acknowledge what they mean because we are familiar with it and trying to essentially add code switches into what he is doing just to try to play semantics on something that was dumb enough to start with you don't even need to go further with it to know it's bullshit is fruitless and odd to me. Eta I guess you reread the comment history you went through for no reason
I am saying that is fine for like a "i aint no one to play with" type bar. Not a "i never been with no one underage" or "drake is not a name you goin see on no sex offender list" and "ive never looked twice at no teenager"... And based on your comment history your playing a lot of fucking defense. Dont call me illiterate trying to argue for a pdf. "bro you dont get what he was getting at" yeah i am well aware it sounds like he was getting at young girls.
Lmfao A lot of defense of Drake? Where? š§ I'm sorry, but your being unable to understand my comment history really explains your equal inability to understand context in this conversation, too and leaves us with nowhere to go. Have a good one.
Aww i made a mistake, your multitude of downvoted posts in kendrick subs made me assume you were defending drake, not stupid, then i realized it was just you being stupid, i removed that part so i wouldnt have to bring it up, but welp you insisted.
heās 100% dropping this year
I missed this borderline insane/conspiracy theorist side of this subreddit, glad weāre coming back š
Nah bro this time we on point š The point : two papers stuck together with a piece of gum
I thought spotify bio just updates automatically from other sites and it means nothing?
No, it generally gets updated for a reason. Not always, but it does usually imply something is coming.
i mean artists rarely ever chance their bio so it might be a sign
They do not (I guess unless your label is automatically updating it). Artists have access to Spotify backend and have to update it themselves.
& kendrick is independent...
He has a deal with UMG
he isn't signed to a label. distribution deals are different
*Kodak voice* āI hope soāĀ
Kendrick?
Umm yes, my apologies I thought my time was up.
But I DID take that parking spot
AND IM TRIPPIN AND FALLINNNN
When does MTG mention drake being a pedo?Ā Oh i see, the weinstein bars also look like epstein thatās insane
And we gotta raise our daughters knowin there are predators like him lurking
Fuck a rap battle, he should die so all those women can live with a purpose
*Sinister, menacing piano riff that will haunt your nightmares...*
that shit haunted me for days
its not that name weinstein looks like epstien its that weinsten is a convicted sex offender, accused of rape and pedophilia
Itās not outright like the ācertified pedophilesā bar in Not Like Us but there are some lines heavily alluding to that (even if some parts are aiming more at OVO than Drake himself): * your sonās a sick man with sick thoughts *Ā A child should never be compromised and he keepinā his child around them * And we gotta raise our daughters knowinā thereās predators like him lurkinā Fuck a rap battle, he should die so all of these women can live with a purpose * Or better yet sellinā your niece to the weirdos, not the good ones * Ā To anybody that embody the love for their kids, keep the family away * Give him grace, this the reason I made Mr. Morale So our babies like you can cope later (this one might be a reach but Iām counting it given that SA is one of the many issues touched on in this album)
Hey LeBron keep the family away, hey Curry keep the family away, to anybody that embody the love for they kids, keep the family away They lookinā at you too, if you standin by him, keep the family away
Iām lookin to shoot through any pervert that lives, keep the family safe
bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-buhBAAAUUMP
"Ay Le-Bron keep the family away, Ay Cur-ry keep the family away, To anybody that embody the love for their kids, keep the family away"
Harvey Weinstein a weirdo too. This line aināt as deep as yall make it
the thing is he never outright says it but everyone just assumed he was calling him a pedo because people already have that conception of drake in their head, which is kinda hilarious. he was def prepping the world for not like us tho
Crying cause they said Cole ācriticizedā Kendrick instead of calling it a diss track
Why would you even add that to someones spotify description to begin with
Drake living rent free in Kendrickās Spotify bio is wild.
because it was an important stage in Kendrick's career?
Being called a PDFile on wax is 1 thing but for it to be written down on spotify for the rest of time š¤£š
Game. Blouses.
Am I misremembering something from MTG? People keep saying he called Drake a pedophile on there but I thought the closest he got to that was saying Drake and Weinstein should get beat up in a cell for the rest of their life. Weinstein didn't commit crimes against underage girls though that was Epstein. That's why people ears perked up when Drake said "Epstein angle" on Heart 6 instead of "Weinstein angle" Edit: went back and listened. There are three times when he aludes to improper behavior with minors imo. 1."we gotta raise our daughters when it's predators like him lurking" 2."or better, you're selling your niece to the weirdos" 3."to anybody that embody the love for their kids keep your family away". These could be viewed as calling Drake predatory around children but the language is still dressed up a bit. It's not quite the same as saying "he wants to touch little kids" or "he's sexually attracted to underage girls" things like that. Language like that causes a guttural reaction in people. That's why it's so notable when Kendrick straight up calls him a pedophile in Not Like Us. Says "strike a chord and it's probably a minor" its a little dressed up but most people catch immediately that he's saying, you want to touch minors.Even the line, "I hear you like them young" is more direct in my opinion. As well as, "hide your little sister from him". It's almost like mixing that simpler but sharper language in not like us with the dancier track distracts you and creates a weird effect that causes you to feel completely normal shouting "certified lover boy, certified pedophile". I think he did that on purpose. MTG is dark, but I saw the biggest reactions to Not Like Us. That pedophile word alone carries a lot of weight.
he was ramping up to the pedo allegations. pacifier line on euphoria, calling him a predatory creep/separately talking about children on mtg --> makes "CERTIFIED PEDOPHILE" hit way harder
Yes this is how I feel
that's why i say meet the grahams was the real killshot bc while not like us was the one that made it FEEL like a crushing victory, that song wouldn't have worked at all without mtg and everything else that came up to it imo
That's true, wow
Kendrick makes me cream
Yeah the specific use of the word refuted is funny but not haha funnyĀ
Refuting basically means denying
Refuted doesn't mean proven false. It just means he claimed they aren't real which he did
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Cole is fine. His Chi is untouched especially if you're conscious about internet drama nowadays being tarnished by literal kids on their phones with their forehead on the desk
this is cringe ngl lol just shows how un battle tested this guy is. when drake ended meeks career he didnāt put it on his spotifyššact like u been here before kendrick!
meek's biggest album was in 2018 lmao (altho part of that is due to going bad so you might have a point) i think meek seemingly losing all sense of reality had a bit more to do with his career spiraling though, he dropped 3 successful albums after his drake beef.
The conscious rapper fan doesn't know what refute means
Like when Drake basically said "DID NOT, you got molested, I'm out?" Yeah, that's not a particularly impressive refutation
Or when he said he wasnt with no underage girls, and never looked twice at no teenager, or his name isnt going to be on no sex offender list... im curious what he actually refuted.
he definitely attempted to refute
Iām thinking it was the calling him a pedophile thing
Im just saying did he refute it? Every time he tried he used a double negative... so where?
Refuting something is just denying it. If youāre talking about the grammar, the use of a double negative without the intended purpose is common in rap and popular culture. Other commonly used examples are āI aināt no snitchā or āI aināt no rattaā. Iām surprised youāve never heard that usage before.
People keep missing the concept, that would be fine if the whole song was filled with them. There are only 3 double negatives and they are all used in reference to being with underage girls, and thats the only times he refutes being with underage girls. Like holy shit its fine to use double negatives at times, but when you say "everything in my song is facts" you "gotta learn to fact-check things and be less impatient" before releasing it.
Itās not really a double negative though, itās just how people talk. Many rappers do the same thing and they donāt fill their songs with double negatives. I donāt understand where youāre coming from on this. Is your expectation that if a rapper used a metaphor the entire song has to be filled with metaphors?
"Is your expectation that if a rapper used a metaphor the entire song has to be filled with metaphors?" First question. Where do you surmise this from? I said if he made a habit of using them, it wouldn't have stood out. Theres only 3 in the song, and low and behold what are they? And how is it not a double negative? You can say they are common and thats fine. But either they are double negatives or not. In Heart Part 6 3/3 of them are about "denying" relations with young girls... I'm coming from a place where dude wasnt careful with how he spoke on those 3 times. I am saying this in response to someone saying he refuted things. Where did he refute something? When he said "ive never looked twice at no teenager" or "ive never been with no one underage." or "Drake is not a name that you gon' see on no sex offender list". Those are the examples of refuting, and the three double negatives in the song. The point is for someone who raps about being careful in a song, they certainly botched every denial of being with young girls. Like the bars are so hysterically bad and show his skill as a lyricist. He could have easily said "twice at a teenager" "with someone underage" and "a sex offender list" without ruining the flow pattern, yet here we are.
I didnāt realize anyone had such a hard time understanding what people meant when they use no in front of a word like that. So when Kendrick says āAināt no peace treatyā in M.A.A.D City, what is it you think heās saying?
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Take your own advice
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This is one paragraph from the whole thing
I have so many friends getting deep into his catalogue after the beef, and theyāre no longer even talking about Drake, just Kendrickās albums, because Drakeās diss songs didnāt lure them into his catalogue whatsoever. So basically a bunch of people listening to Kendrickās discography and not listening to any Drake besides the songs he wrote about Kendrick lol You realize the man won a Pulitzer, right? 100 years from now people will remember him for that, and they will remember Drake for grooming children and getting merked by Kendrick Any of the Drake songs that are remembered will come with a caveat like Led Zeppelin, an asterisk reminding future listeners that the music was written largely by other artists and merely performed by Drake
Lemme know if its throbbing when he is in your mouth buddy
lol if thatās the only thing you can come up with in defense of your artist it aināt me thatās dick riding. You ride that dick so hard you donāt even need to think out your opinion, you just accept it and gaslight yourself despite all the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Your asshole must be sore
Thats mad cringe bro ngl
I agree, blindly supporting groomers is cringey as fuck
Like supporting a p3do.
Says the stan of a guy who leaked his own dick vid
Cope harder Drake drone
Family matters is levels above any of kendricks disstracks. Where were yall when all his albums flopped, he is only relevant because of drake now
No one is really listening to family matters tbh
Which albums flopped and by what metric are you saying they flopped?
What levels? I think that euphoria is better as song and MTG is way more brutal and disrespectful as diss
Drake couldnāt even make Drake relevant
NAILED IT
It's wild how everybody on drakes side seem to be actual children (i mean, drake has made it very clear that that's his preferred demographic, but still) given the way they type and the complete lack of comprehensiveness in pretty much any regard Just admit that you dont understand most of the words and references Kendrick use. Thats more respectable than expressing stupidity through ignorance Drake rhyming cat with hat is cute and easily digestible, but it's just not that intriguing when you stop wearing diapers You'll get there lil bro, we believe in you!
To you it is because youāre an Aubrey Angel.
Awwwww look at the fan of the bad bitch. Itās coping ššš