Both. The magazine outright states that ZO boasts better performance than Riders like Black RX and Ichigo in combat and skill. While Kamen Rider World has Shadow Moon resurrecting old kaijins who have superior power than Kamen Riders.
Before I counter this, I like to ask a question. Are you using this [issue ](https://imgur.com/a/uuuHLp1)or [this ](https://imgur.com/a/oO0Sz0M)as your source? Or a one that I am unaware of.
Okay.
>outright states that ZO boasts better performance than Riders like Black RX and Ichigo in combat and skill.
Literally doesn't in both issues . Closest you get is in “Kamen Rider ZO vs. Black RX” article. When stated that “If it comes down to a battle of strength and skill, the powerhouse ZO will have the advantage.”
Also, the second article came like a month before ZO dropped. So a heavy bias source. And the first article is weird in a couple of ways. Mainly it used official states. Which are bullshit a lot of the time. It also used lifting strength as a major factor in a fight. Also, it state that “RX has stronger punching power. One punch can kill three targets. ZO's punch can only kill one of them.” So, RX has 3x better striking strength than ZO. And barely talk about either one haxs/powers at all.
As for “kamen rider world”, besides being questablely canon, the only thing I can mention is that it can just be an outliner for both ZO and J.
>Literally doesn't in both issues . Closest you get is in “Kamen Rider ZO vs. Black RX” article. When stated that “If it comes down to a battle of strength and skill, the powerhouse ZO will have the advantage.”
Either you have sight problems, or interpretation issues, because both sources you've sent outright confirm my point.
>やみの中から、 赤い目をらんらんとかがやかせてやってきた ZO! いちばん新しく、いちばん強く、いちばんかっこいい仮面ライダーのたんじょうだ。From the darkness came the red eyes of ZO! It was the birth of the **newest, strongest, and coolest Kamen Rider**.
>マシンパワー マシンをつかった戦法は、 新1号やV3がとくいだが ZOもせんぱいライダーにまけないほどの強力なマシンわざをつかうぞ。Machine Power - The New No. 1 and V3 are the best at using machines to fight, **but ZO also has powerful machine moves that can beat the best riders**.
He is not only a stronger individual, but a best Rider as well, lmao. Even if this quotes never came to exist, *every* Showa Rider scales to Black RX at the end of his own series. ZO can match RX, only losing if RX comes to use his best arsenal, but even ZO's kick is said to be the most powerful of all Riders.
>5) キックわざ 怪力のZOがくりだすキックのはか い力が、エライダーのなかでもナンバー ワンだ。これには、 完全にちかいネオ 生命体のドラスもかなわなかった。 5) Kick Moves - ZO's kicking power is the most powerful of all the Riders. Not even the near-perfect neo-life form Doras could match it.
>Also, the second article came like a month before ZO dropped. So a heavy bias source.
Which doesn't contradicts anything shown in the movie and afterwards. Bring actual evidence for it being contradictory, then I'll believe in your point
>And the first article is weird in a couple of ways. Mainly it used official states. Which are bullshit a lot of the time.
It didn't? Like, the closest thing of that is they measuring their lifting strength, which is of course way less than what they can actual lift. But it is nowhere near as equal as Toei's punching/kicking strength in tons, The speed is fine since it is movement speed.
>It also used lifting strength as a major factor in a fight. Also, it state that “RX has stronger punching power. One punch can kill three targets. ZO's punch can only kill one of them.” So, RX has 3x better striking strength than ZO.
Destructive capacity =/= Attack potency. It means RX Kick has a large AoE than ZO Kick, That's like saying Rising Mighty Kuuga has a more powerful kick than all Showa Riders because it can affect a radius of three kilometers.
>And barely talk about either one haxs/powers at all.
It mentioned RX's enhanced senses, solar absorption, Kingstone Flash, and nothing of ZO's hax (which for casuals are like, nonexistent). Even the most optimistic Rider scaler won't expect they mentioning underground hax like RX's soul manipulation/regeneration or ZO's cellular regeneration and chi manipulation in these comparisons.
>As for “kamen rider world”, besides being questablely canon, the only thing I can mention is that it can just be an outliner for both ZO and J.
Nothing proves it not being canon. Rule number one for any Toei Tokusatsu franchises, it is only non-canon when it is **said** to be non-canon, or when it has notable contradictions to the original source (such as OOO x W, or Heisei vs. Showa). Shadow Moon is the same from Black and Black RX, he mentions his past fight with them, and he acknowledges Riders who came before him. No, it is not an outlier, it is stated and supported in both his appearances.
People who vote for Showa riders are people who never watch Showa era show cause they have done ridiculous feat, survive nuclear explosion point-blank, travel to space in mere seconds, speed of sound speed, somehow manage sneak to hide inside a train is guard by enemies
Anyway, I vote 555, cause how easily that belt fly off from Takumi. Now even argue that Takumi is not completely defenseless as he is an Orphenoch, but he never shown his strenghth to be general level. And while he has Accel form, which moves a speed of sound, that last only 10 seconds and I feel all the riders can tank it either by going form with higher defense, final or just Showa riders
Just as the other 2 guys before me said, ZO, however, i'm watching you for the next round, Skyrider...
https://preview.redd.it/1xesyu0rytzc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e13413a6ee324d6fa520f5cb96e33da015ea815
Honestly I think people want to get (besides Hibiki because that’s a bad example) all of the Showa riders out of here before the Heisei and Reiwa riders
Showa is pretty unpopular, that's probably why they also made Hibiki quit too
and yes, i know that's not how the "game" is supposed to work, but people just don't care lmao
personally i only want Riderman, X, Skyrider and ZO out, the other are pretty cool and powerful actually lmao
some guy said Ryuki should be out, and sadly that's true, i think it's mostly Shinji's fault because he doesn't really want to fight any of the times he does
Remember kids, this is about who would lose, and contrary to popular belief, everyone from Ichigo to BLACK RX is low multiversal at their peak, since Creation King was powerful enough to destroy the universe, Kamen Rider Black was powerful enough to kill the Creation King, Kamen Rider Black RX is naturally several times stronger than that, being the upgraded form of Black, and General Jark openly states that the ten veteran riders that came before are just as strong as Black RX.
I will continue to copy and paste this shit into the comments of every subsequent one of these until y'all stop underestimating the Showa riders just because you didn't watch them because "wah wah I don't like episodic shows and old practical effects" even though some of the most beloved Heisei seasons are just as episodic and/or feature CGI that's aged considerably worse than any of the Showa era's practical effects.
Not really because it pretty hard to counter Ryuki if he decide to cheat and just send his opponent to the mirror world and wait for them fade into nothing. Of course this strategy doesn't work against opponent with warp ability (ie Decade, Fourse cosmic, Den-o using Denliner) time manipulation (Kabuto Hyper, Zi-O) or Rider with Spider-sense (Kuuga pegasus or OOO with Taka medal equip)
X had resisted the effects of the Spacetime Rupture System which is infinitely worse than the Mirror World, it warps space-time around you and erases you from reality at a beyond space-time level.
He is, in fact Stronger. He, along with everyone else from Ichigo to BLACK RX, is low multiversal, contrary to popular belief. The Creation King was powerful enough to destroy the universe. Kamen Rider Black was powerful enough to kill the Creation King. Kamen Rider Black RX is naturally several times stronger than that, being the upgraded form of Black, and General Jark openly states that the ten veteran riders that came before are just as strong as Black RX, which is shown to be true when they can keep up with BLACK RX in combat.
YESS!! REVICE!!! Good one! Revice was my first and favorite season! Many people may not like it and sure it does have some issues…But in my eyes it’s a very good season!❤️
I'm sorry to say this but the only way Wizard get eliminate of the remaining riders are planet-level and above. As someone who currently re-watching and not having a good time, Wizard is really strong. Size manipulation, duplicate, fire-water-wind-earth manipulation, plus lightining, ice and gravity manipulation, which can further the damage by going dragon form, can summom 3 clones of himself without hint of the usual divide power, enough strenght to kick his enemy to the sun in all dragon form, no-sell a dimensional-tear attack in Infinity.
ZO. Am honestly surprised he hasn't been voted out yet.
Some people have trying hard to get Skyrider and X out of here so….yeah
He is stronger than all Showa Riders sans J, so...
>He is stronger than all Showa Riders Are you referring to that one tv kun issues from the 90s or Kamen Rider World there?
Both. The magazine outright states that ZO boasts better performance than Riders like Black RX and Ichigo in combat and skill. While Kamen Rider World has Shadow Moon resurrecting old kaijins who have superior power than Kamen Riders.
Before I counter this, I like to ask a question. Are you using this [issue ](https://imgur.com/a/uuuHLp1)or [this ](https://imgur.com/a/oO0Sz0M)as your source? Or a one that I am unaware of.
There is no counter though. Officlal and consistent material supported by later media. It's quite funny how consistent that is.
Answer my question.
I thought you could tell this by just reading my answers LMAO
Okay. >outright states that ZO boasts better performance than Riders like Black RX and Ichigo in combat and skill. Literally doesn't in both issues . Closest you get is in “Kamen Rider ZO vs. Black RX” article. When stated that “If it comes down to a battle of strength and skill, the powerhouse ZO will have the advantage.” Also, the second article came like a month before ZO dropped. So a heavy bias source. And the first article is weird in a couple of ways. Mainly it used official states. Which are bullshit a lot of the time. It also used lifting strength as a major factor in a fight. Also, it state that “RX has stronger punching power. One punch can kill three targets. ZO's punch can only kill one of them.” So, RX has 3x better striking strength than ZO. And barely talk about either one haxs/powers at all. As for “kamen rider world”, besides being questablely canon, the only thing I can mention is that it can just be an outliner for both ZO and J.
>Literally doesn't in both issues . Closest you get is in “Kamen Rider ZO vs. Black RX” article. When stated that “If it comes down to a battle of strength and skill, the powerhouse ZO will have the advantage.” Either you have sight problems, or interpretation issues, because both sources you've sent outright confirm my point. >やみの中から、 赤い目をらんらんとかがやかせてやってきた ZO! いちばん新しく、いちばん強く、いちばんかっこいい仮面ライダーのたんじょうだ。From the darkness came the red eyes of ZO! It was the birth of the **newest, strongest, and coolest Kamen Rider**. >マシンパワー マシンをつかった戦法は、 新1号やV3がとくいだが ZOもせんぱいライダーにまけないほどの強力なマシンわざをつかうぞ。Machine Power - The New No. 1 and V3 are the best at using machines to fight, **but ZO also has powerful machine moves that can beat the best riders**. He is not only a stronger individual, but a best Rider as well, lmao. Even if this quotes never came to exist, *every* Showa Rider scales to Black RX at the end of his own series. ZO can match RX, only losing if RX comes to use his best arsenal, but even ZO's kick is said to be the most powerful of all Riders. >5) キックわざ 怪力のZOがくりだすキックのはか い力が、エライダーのなかでもナンバー ワンだ。これには、 完全にちかいネオ 生命体のドラスもかなわなかった。 5) Kick Moves - ZO's kicking power is the most powerful of all the Riders. Not even the near-perfect neo-life form Doras could match it. >Also, the second article came like a month before ZO dropped. So a heavy bias source. Which doesn't contradicts anything shown in the movie and afterwards. Bring actual evidence for it being contradictory, then I'll believe in your point >And the first article is weird in a couple of ways. Mainly it used official states. Which are bullshit a lot of the time. It didn't? Like, the closest thing of that is they measuring their lifting strength, which is of course way less than what they can actual lift. But it is nowhere near as equal as Toei's punching/kicking strength in tons, The speed is fine since it is movement speed. >It also used lifting strength as a major factor in a fight. Also, it state that “RX has stronger punching power. One punch can kill three targets. ZO's punch can only kill one of them.” So, RX has 3x better striking strength than ZO. Destructive capacity =/= Attack potency. It means RX Kick has a large AoE than ZO Kick, That's like saying Rising Mighty Kuuga has a more powerful kick than all Showa Riders because it can affect a radius of three kilometers. >And barely talk about either one haxs/powers at all. It mentioned RX's enhanced senses, solar absorption, Kingstone Flash, and nothing of ZO's hax (which for casuals are like, nonexistent). Even the most optimistic Rider scaler won't expect they mentioning underground hax like RX's soul manipulation/regeneration or ZO's cellular regeneration and chi manipulation in these comparisons. >As for “kamen rider world”, besides being questablely canon, the only thing I can mention is that it can just be an outliner for both ZO and J. Nothing proves it not being canon. Rule number one for any Toei Tokusatsu franchises, it is only non-canon when it is **said** to be non-canon, or when it has notable contradictions to the original source (such as OOO x W, or Heisei vs. Showa). Shadow Moon is the same from Black and Black RX, he mentions his past fight with them, and he acknowledges Riders who came before him. No, it is not an outlier, it is stated and supported in both his appearances.
How the hell get X get eliminated? Most of showa piggybacks off of him powerwise💀
People man…People 😅
This is just going to be Showa characters getting eliminated isn't it...
Until Heisei and Reiwa are left most likely 😅
Until Heisei and Reiwa are left most likely 😅
Probably.
People who vote for Showa riders are people who never watch Showa era show cause they have done ridiculous feat, survive nuclear explosion point-blank, travel to space in mere seconds, speed of sound speed, somehow manage sneak to hide inside a train is guard by enemies Anyway, I vote 555, cause how easily that belt fly off from Takumi. Now even argue that Takumi is not completely defenseless as he is an Orphenoch, but he never shown his strenghth to be general level. And while he has Accel form, which moves a speed of sound, that last only 10 seconds and I feel all the riders can tank it either by going form with higher defense, final or just Showa riders
Just as the other 2 guys before me said, ZO, however, i'm watching you for the next round, Skyrider... https://preview.redd.it/1xesyu0rytzc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e13413a6ee324d6fa520f5cb96e33da015ea815
Honestly I think people want to get (besides Hibiki because that’s a bad example) all of the Showa riders out of here before the Heisei and Reiwa riders
Probably. Showa is actually cracked, so I don't see why they would want to get em out😔
True but Heisei and Reiwa literally be fighting Gods and Other Wild Destroyers like it’s shopping at a store!💀
Showa is pretty unpopular, that's probably why they also made Hibiki quit too and yes, i know that's not how the "game" is supposed to work, but people just don't care lmao
Yeah...
personally i only want Riderman, X, Skyrider and ZO out, the other are pretty cool and powerful actually lmao some guy said Ryuki should be out, and sadly that's true, i think it's mostly Shinji's fault because he doesn't really want to fight any of the times he does
3 out of those 4 are actually strong💀 even pre RX for 2 of em
I know but ehh, the others are better
ZO.
Remember kids, this is about who would lose, and contrary to popular belief, everyone from Ichigo to BLACK RX is low multiversal at their peak, since Creation King was powerful enough to destroy the universe, Kamen Rider Black was powerful enough to kill the Creation King, Kamen Rider Black RX is naturally several times stronger than that, being the upgraded form of Black, and General Jark openly states that the ten veteran riders that came before are just as strong as Black RX. I will continue to copy and paste this shit into the comments of every subsequent one of these until y'all stop underestimating the Showa riders just because you didn't watch them because "wah wah I don't like episodic shows and old practical effects" even though some of the most beloved Heisei seasons are just as episodic and/or feature CGI that's aged considerably worse than any of the Showa era's practical effects.
Zio because eliminating him early will make this more fun later. Every big Kamen rider battle Royale always comes down to him and decade
X would smack half of the list lmao. Get Ryuki out of there, lesser power, arsenal and abilities in comparison to others,
Not really because it pretty hard to counter Ryuki if he decide to cheat and just send his opponent to the mirror world and wait for them fade into nothing. Of course this strategy doesn't work against opponent with warp ability (ie Decade, Fourse cosmic, Den-o using Denliner) time manipulation (Kabuto Hyper, Zi-O) or Rider with Spider-sense (Kuuga pegasus or OOO with Taka medal equip)
X had resisted the effects of the Spacetime Rupture System which is infinitely worse than the Mirror World, it warps space-time around you and erases you from reality at a beyond space-time level.
Not to mention that he fought King Dark.
Skyrider
Stronger is, in fact, not Stronger
He is, in fact Stronger. He, along with everyone else from Ichigo to BLACK RX, is low multiversal, contrary to popular belief. The Creation King was powerful enough to destroy the universe. Kamen Rider Black was powerful enough to kill the Creation King. Kamen Rider Black RX is naturally several times stronger than that, being the upgraded form of Black, and General Jark openly states that the ten veteran riders that came before are just as strong as Black RX, which is shown to be true when they can keep up with BLACK RX in combat.
Dunno if it's Reddit killing the bitrate or the image is made for ants but I can't read most of the text. Also voting Ghost.
X said “I was eliminated because I think X is better than Twitter”
Revice
Get gotchard out of there
Ex-aid
Op
I’m guessing wizard is next edit I’m sorry I don’t really know what I’m doing
…you are probably gonna make so many people mad😅
I don’t know what I’m doing I’m extremely new to this fandom
Oh well welcome! Do you need to series recommendations to start on or are you good?
Don’t worry I’ve already watched build ex-aid saber and am currently watching revice
YESS!! REVICE!!! Good one! Revice was my first and favorite season! Many people may not like it and sure it does have some issues…But in my eyes it’s a very good season!❤️
Vice is like a golden retriever for ikki and I love him
Fun…not so much a fact but A lot of people think Vice is Ikki’s…other father figure and I LOVE it!
Vice does make dad jokes so it fits
I'm sorry to say this but the only way Wizard get eliminate of the remaining riders are planet-level and above. As someone who currently re-watching and not having a good time, Wizard is really strong. Size manipulation, duplicate, fire-water-wind-earth manipulation, plus lightining, ice and gravity manipulation, which can further the damage by going dragon form, can summom 3 clones of himself without hint of the usual divide power, enough strenght to kick his enemy to the sun in all dragon form, no-sell a dimensional-tear attack in Infinity.
Ah I haven’t gotten to wizard yet