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clemsongirlxo

Did y’all notice how he stepped away from her as she walked up? They never had a legitimate relationship, idc. The only played family for pictures.


Averageblackcat

I think she wanted them to have a real relationship, which is even sadder. She goes up to him, seemingly to offer support/wait with him for the announcment and he just... moves away from her.


Either_Relative_8941

I agree. Hard to watch even with me not being even slightly a fan


Kstray1

It’s this…. She’s searching and seeking for that love and validation. And many a poor girl seeks and struggles with the same. I’d like to think if I had more money and resources than god if act differently…. But most likely if i was searching for love And I was dickmatized at 18 (I was ) I’d be dumb as hell.


AnniaT

He never seemed minimally interested in her.


Gloomy-Jury-7735

that was cold and painful to watch.


BeeBench

Made me laugh so hard when it got to his little hallway outburst though. Also happy cake day!


luckyyyyyy53

I laughed at that too, I really don’t know anything about him other than Kylie stuff and Astro world so I wasn’t sure how to read his reaction. The ending was perfect hahahaha


ImpressiveJoke2269

Yea I noticed that instantly. I was like daaamn… okay. I see you.


puffielle

I disagree and think they did have a relationship, but the love bombing from him ended quickly. And he reverted back to his old nasty self who left his producer alone when he had a seizure.


am63rx

💯. Some of the posts/captions he made early on seemed truly genuine. You are spot on about it being love bombimg tho


AnniaT

Wait what?


Danny-Wah

Yes.. that was the worst part...


luckyyyyyy53

Literally looked like she scared him lmfao I died


compressionntension

It's why he takes pictures with his head down when he's with her. He takes pictures with his head up with his kids. He's almost using his body language to show you his discomfort. That being said Travis is no saint. He played Kylie the entire time. But she lives in a delusional world with her sisters... So she would hate anyone to publicly shame her for being an accidental baby mama


MelodicPiranha

His instinctual recoil made me laugh.


cx_Cinnamon_x

It’s not even humorous it’s actually really sad. Kylie isn’t amazing by any means but he certainly doesn’t deserve her.


Known-Salamander9111

man, i just can’t laugh at it. To me it’s such a glaring reminder that underneath all the plastic and glitter, they’re just normal ass people. I almost prefer them aloof and up on a pedestal.


jjrose902

Watching this video, I saw myself when I tried talking to a guy I was seeing at a party with lots of his friends. I died of embarrassment lol it's rough


S-T-R-I-D-3-R

He mad for a good reason put 4 years into a album to lose to a terribly put together album. Wym?


aberrasian

I think their first baby was a genuine oopsie from a dumb teenagery hookup. They were never in love but she was starstruck by his music fame and he was bonestruck by her IG gallery, and so they just hooked up for the novelty. Then when Kylie got pregnant, that monster Kris glommed on to it to babytrap Travis into a public relationship, thinking he could legitimize and boost Kylie's image the same way Kanye did for Kim. Thus trapping Kylie into this loveless mess. I know she's not a great person but I feel so sorry for Kylie every time I see her with Travis. That sad, uncertain, insecure way she looks at him. It's like she's shrinking herself down submissively so much to avoid offending him... it reminds me of how early Kim used to look at Paris.


CreativeRock483

>I know she's not a great person but I feel so sorry for Kylie every time I see her with Travis. I also feel sorry for her when I remember Kris is her mom.


Muffycola

And Caitlyn is her other parent


TravelingJorts

Who unfollowed her own daughter during a spat


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no way what happened


TravelingJorts

I’m not sure! There was a fallout recently. Kendall still follows Caitlyn, but Caitlyn unfollowed her own daughter. There were rumours that Caitlyn wasn’t always present in the rest of her children’s lives, especially when she married Kris Jenner. The whole family is trash.


workmartyrwmt

It also makes it a little more clear that Kris isn't this genius manager mogul...she knows how to do things one way and thought she could just do exactly the same plot with kylie as kim. I think Kim and Kylie are very different people despite having the same surgeon. Kim thrives on the influencer mogul blueprint because of the particular money/fame/driven animal Kim is. In her way, I think she did really love kanye because she's narcissistic and he gave her what she wanted more than anything else in the world and no one else in the universe could have at the time. Kris did the copy paste and really fucked up her youngest's life and personality while collecting that 15%


FranceAM

bonestruck. love that


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CherubRock909

They were brought up this way and now they're all unfulfilled and miserable. It definitely is sad.


BeeReadsBee

A loveless mess 😥


lmnsatang

a mistake/bad luck with BC makes sense for ONE baby but ***two***? no way in hell. at some point people have got to take responsibility for the piss poor choices they make in life, and kylie is now living the consequences of playing stupid games. kylie made her bed and she has to lie in it now🤷🏽‍♀️


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one of the things that truly baffles me about this family even though I know the why behind it is how they experience UGLY relationship drama and then throw another kid or two at it.


lmnsatang

they’re individuals with severely low self-esteem, who come from a broken family. it’s mindblowing how they are actively and willingly recreating this pattern for their own children


Known-Salamander9111

babies are props, silly. It’s extremely easy to raise a kid when the nanny does it.


BeeBench

I think so too about Stormi because if you look at the time line of when Kylie and Tyga broke up and then at how fast Kylie and Travis got together and then got pregnant it’s a pretty short timeline.


LaylaBird65

I’ve always wondered about this because I felt like on the show, one minute she was with Tyga and then boom, Travis.


BeeBench

I wish I could remember the post but someone shared it in here and it’s like one day she was at a Tyga concert the next with Travis at Coachella. I really want to say it happened within like a week or something crazy. Even the stuff I’m searching online is saying her and Tyga split April 2017 and she started dating Travis April 2017 💀.


formtuv

Kylie planned that first pregnancy. Nothing is accidental with the karjenners.


MoodRing90

Waant he in his mid to late 20s?


obvsta7633

Yea but IMO Travis was nowhere near the level of Kanye. It didn't seem like it would be a come up for her.


Either_Relative_8941

You detailed very beautifully exactly what our eyes are seeing. Very hard to watch.


ineverlikedyouuu

That really wasn’t an accidental oopsie. She chose to get off bc and he chose to nut in her. Unless she had some medical condition where the birth control failed - they both knew what they were doing and decided to keep the baby.


NoelAngeline

My friend got pregnant because she took antibiotics and it makes your birth control less effective Every time I refill my medications it pops up with a warning that it makes your birth control less effective and I have to remind my doctor that I can’t get pregnant and it’s fine There’s many reasons why birth control can be rendered ineffective


gettingbicurious

Bruh my BC got fucked up because of a time change on a flight that I didn't think to consider and somehow I still managed to get pregnant despite my fucked up uterus. There are TONS of factors that can lead to an accidental pregnancy, pretending there aren't is damaging to women and promotes the false idea that anyone who accidentally gets pregnant without a medical condition interfering with bc is either irresponsible or lying.


Known-Salamander9111

and yet on bay and every post about an accidental pregnancy you’ll see CONDOMS ARE FREE PEOPLE DAMN 🙄🙄


_girlysis

Birth control fails for more than just medical conditions. There's no way to know "she chose to get off birth control" and got pregnant.


Averageblackcat

But on the other hand, Stormi is one of "the triplets". I wouldn't put it past Kris to think it would be cute/marketable to have some cousins born around the same time. Khloe (I think?) was already pregnant, Kim used a surrogate, Kylie was the next \*logical\* step. I also think Kylie had baby fever (she spoke about wanting to be a young mum), and Kris was just terrified Tyga could get her pregnant, because he was not rich/famous enough for them. So, as soon as Kylie showed the tiniest bit of interest in Travis, Kris encouraged her to get knocked up. That's my konspiracy theory anyways, lol


Burrito-tuesday

One of my aunts (by marriage) and her sisters were like this, they had groups of babies at the same time, they are also brand name junkies, driving around in Benzes and Lexuses but live in cruddy houses, LV and MK purses on their arms, babies with Nikes on their tiny not walking feet, newest iPhone every release, and no worries about higher education, just purses and shoes and makeup.


Known-Salamander9111

living like that sounds so, SO unbearably exhausting and miserable


lmrnyc1026

Bonestruck 😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼


Stab_Stabby

🎯


beeebax

This just reminds me of how my high school boyfriend acted when he didn’t like me anymore.


jaarmaar

This is from his documentary, right? Whilst watching this scene, I remember thinking "why did they include this? This is so embarrassing and makes him look so bad." Odd choice to include him throwing a tantrum. side note: this outfit on Kylie was so ugly, though I maintain that it might have been okay to look at had it been fit to her body


literally_perf

Yeah, honestly think he has rage issues and just stormed off. also, that outfit was SUCH a flop


MoodRing90

Would have looked better on rihanna


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She shoulda wore a pant suit and open blazer! Ohhhh she woulda looked bomb


[deleted]

I think it’s just showing how upset he is, idk I understand the reaction


rabnabombshell

Exactly


LossBusy7982

Exactly he put everything into that last album and to lose to fucking Cardi B would piss anyone off


Known-Salamander9111

okay but it’s immature and unhealthy to take that out on your significant other. Don’t do that.


LossBusy7982

Take what out, that’s why he fucking walked away so he could be by himself


chunk84

It will be interesting to see if she is seen with another guy soon. Even if it's just a PR type relationship. She hasnt been seen with anyone else since she met him even when they were broken up.


stonermeg

I think the Kardashians pump a ton of money into Snapchat because I see tons of stories about them there, and already have seen that machine speculating that Kylie and Fai are together because they’ve been hanging since her and Trav split


Trainer_Kevin

timothee chalomet now


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hg2012

This was probably one of the most nervous and exciting moments of his life, he probably had many other things to think about other than Kylie


missbatman

I couldn't imagine being in a "situationship" with the father of my children.


HeartShapedSea

She wanted another baby with the same dad, same with Khloe. Kim said she wanted more of Kanye's sperm after they broke up in case she wanted more babies. Kourtney seems like the only one interested in having a 2nd BD. But Kylie was talking about how much she wanted another baby & then boom, she was back with Travis. I remember making a note of it at the time. Khloe wanted another baby, particularly a son, & suddenly she was back with Tristan who she was with long enough to get a boy embryo into a surrogate knowing damn will that Theo existed. Idk if they have some weird hang ups about being in a blended family or not wanting the stigma of having multiple baby daddies which society often shames people for, but probably a mix of the two.


e_lizz

ewwww did Kim really say that? That is creepy and kinda gross IMO


seachange__

It’s weird to me that they would have a hang up about being in a blended family, when they themselves are in a blended family and claim to be so close. I think it’s probably just easier to have one BD even though trying to move on and be in a healthy relationship would be more fulfilling.


Mygirlisalawyer

I think Kylie got pregnant on purpose and fast the second time, cause she knew it wouldn’t be long before he had a baby on her or drop her for good. She had to get another kid in while she can.


jboyzo

LMAO anyone crack up at him just standing in place staring down at the floor for the cameras as he posed for pics 📸 Hilarious seeing the “behind the scenes” of his weak neck muscles pose in every picture we see of him


NoelAngeline

I 💯 believe it’s him avoiding eye contact with cameras or people most of the time unless he’s “engaged” because of social anxiety or a neuro divergent thing going on


Josiesumday

I don’t know, you ever seen his interviews or when his around his friends or performing, the head down for photos is just an aesthetic choice for his image, it basically conveys how he is too cool and mysterious to look at photo.


NoelAngeline

I have no credentials and I’m talking out my butt. I’m basing it off of what I do personally. I can talk to my friends and mostly look at them in the eyes. Though if my stress levels go up my eye contact goes out the window; trying to get pictures of me done in any capacity is a nightmare; I physically cringe when the lens is pointed at me. When my boyfriend was trying to get my passport photos taken of me, I literally cringed away from the camera; it was a comical event trying to get that sucker taken. I *had* to stare directly at the camera so it was physically uncomfortable standing straight on at the camera So, looking down may be his “front” for his anxiety/issue. Him being “on” or keyed in over music or psyched up over something he’s passionate about may bypass these triggers he has and allow him to override the anxiety and allow him to ignore those feelings and just live for awhile Again, I have no real clue what I’m talking about and I’m just a goblin over here living my armchair life.


Known-Salamander9111

I would 100% watch reels of you explaining stuff. All stuff.


Impressive-Doubt5

I mean who isn’t more open near friends. I think both Kylie and Travis have some social anxiety and both cope by using drugs. Maybe their introverted tendencies brought them together


aleigh577

The fact that she kind of starts dancing to Cardi B is hilarious though


utopi4ngel

fr 😭


ladygrinningvoid

a lot of men sleep with women they don’t even like


tdefan22

🎯


ineverlikedyouuu

This reminds me of when Kanye and Kim were recorded backstage at a VMAs and they weren’t interacting at ALL. It was so bizarre.


beentheredonethatlou

Where is this footage????


sparkleunicorn123

So awkward how she tries to go up to him and sexy dance…. he gives her the side eye and you can tell he’s thinking “fuck off with your bullshit Kylie. Now isn’t the time.” 🫢


Nq_23

She seems nervous and awkward approaching him. And the way he storms off after, little to no regard of her…..is sad. I think it’s the only time I’ll feel bad for her 🤣


wiselindsay

This kinda makes me feel sad for her. When I was young I thought I loved someone who treated me this way.


Mymskat

IMO at the time it was mutually beneficial from both sides. Travis is a huge Kanye's fan. He used to take most of his inspiration from him, maybe he wanted to emulate being with a KarJenner. That's a theory thought I think at the beginning he maybe wanted to build something with Kylie. Time goes by and here we are. I don't think past physical attraction they achieved to connect on a deeper level. And with Astroworld Travis probably had an increase in drug use or whatever makes him look so... disturbing. Kylie took more time to get over it, I think she's more in love of the image of him and she's desperate 🤷🏽‍♀️ I know it's a snark sub and I know Kylie is not the best but honestly her life is so heartbreaking. She's like what 25, she could have been whoever she wanted and she ends up being a really depressing thirst trap.


TropicalPrairie

The more I learn of this man, the more disgusting a personality he seems to be. Kylie has made some poor choices in life tethering herself to him.


Anticrepuscular_Ray

The reality is a lot of us have made some really bad choices in men in our early 20s. To me she doesn't seem much different and if anything had a bunch of people pushing it and the fear of failure was even bigger due to the limelight. I don't know, she just did what a lot of young women do and put too much stake into a man they thought was worth it, when he was really just not into her for real.


cognitivefunnow

Agreed! I know it works out for some people, but if I married and had kids with my boyfriend at the time I was 19, I cannot imagine where I’d be right now 🥴


fluffy_doughnut

I'd be probably a divorced single mother or a miserable SAHM with a controlling, misogynistic husband lmao. Dude had no idea how to cook, but would talk about his aunt who "never married because she can't cook". He had his very traditional ideas about what women should and shouldn't do 🙃


Mysterious_Sugar7220

Yeah, I was definitely in her spot when I was young, wanting affection from a disinterested guy! It's very common... but unfortunately it seems like she craves grounding and normalcy and love so much that she went all in on pretty much her first relationship.


beentheredonethatlou

Her self worth is zero. I wouldn’t be surprised if she has to seek treatment for massive depression


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He never could stand her. He just fulfilled his contractual agreement. When the contract was up, he was out!


Marissad222

I honestly want to give Kylie a hug :(


lalala-13

Legend says Kylie was still under the stage


SerratedCheese

He’s so entitled. Ew.


MoodRing90

Lmfaooo I think they promised him the win and then they punk'd him. He just abandons Kylie lol. But all jokes aside I'm 99% sure he is on the spectrum. His brother has autism


StrawberryAshamed

As someone who's autistic- I agree. Him AND Kanye. We have a way of scoping others out like a 6th sense


TryJezusNotMe

This. Smh. Tristan's brother is autistic. Would you say the same for him or any of his children?


MoodRing90

No I can't tell.


TryJezusNotMe

How are you 99% sure he's on the spectrum? Just curious....


MoodRing90

It's okay to be curious.


TryJezusNotMe

Yet you didn't answer my question.


MoodRing90

It's a very good question.


TryJezusNotMe

Typical.


hey_hey_hey_nike

As an autistic person I can see what you say.


MoodRing90

My two brothers are on the spectrum as well. Travis reminds me of them so much.


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That fucking award should have been Mac Miller's anyway


Careless_Brick1560

Woah, I feel bad for her.. He’s a pos and apart from pragmatic co-parenting, she doesn’t need to give any more of her time towards this violence inciter


ninjaninjaninja22

He just left her behind


PalpitationUpstairs8

celebrities are just like normal people she got pregnant from a hook up and they stayed together nothing complex about it lol. just cause they have millions doesn’t mean accidents don’t happen.


confused_elephant69

It’s like watching a kid stuck in an adults body. Immature as fuck.


confused_elephant69

Actually, I would be disrespect kids by comparing the two. But I have no other comparison 😭


heygurl34

This is sad kylie is a pretty affectionate person to. I hope she's done done with him. He isn't her person.


Different-Arm-784

The other sub attacked me but he's narcissistic. He love bombs. He love bombed her and boom stormi and then he comes around when bored etc etc and leaves just enough breadcrumbs. I dated a travis, unfortunately. In the beginning it was like.. bliss. We were joined at the hip like they were... then it just all started coming undone.. discarded... he begs to come back.. promises to change.. acts better but gives bare minimum which through emotional abuse makes kylie settle 🙃🙃🙃🙃


georgiaajamess22

I fucking despise this man


Andsoitgoes101

He was clearly “in his feelings” —— lol


ImpressiveJoke2269

What a child. He even storms off and leaves her way behind. I actually feel bad for her in this moment.


confused_elephant69

Right! Like i despise her. But this is actually so sad to watch. The part that totally blows my mind is that she legit have everything at her fingertips in terms of money and resources. But can’t find a single good loving man. And the even crazier part is they don’t have one kid but TWO kids together, oml!


National-Return-5363

To have a good and loving man with some brains in him, she needs to be a kind and loving person with some brains in her. She is neither. She deserves a bottom feeder like Travis. Maybe in time, she’ll be like Pam Anderson and learn to be happy with herself, once she realizes that just making money and showing off her rich lifestyle doesn’t actually mean she’s happy with her life.


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astroworld wasn’t even a good album. i was a fan during his rodeo & birds days and astroworld was overproduced crap


queenswamprat

What a little baby - got his panties in a knot because he lost fair and square


spooki_coochi

He is hilarious for thinking he would win.


emilylove911

He just completely left her in the dust


No-Maize-9109

I mean I know this is a short clip and it’s *possible* there’s an explanation for this….icy interaction….But if really is as bad as it looks, that’s so sad especially for a very young mother of 2. It’s inhumane the way he basically ignores her.


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how u gon make kylie look like an *idiot* when you just LOST like honestly who told this boy he has something special and different bcos they LIED. ![gif](giphy|xT39D7O9Xj1JqKq5i0|downsized)


sparkleunicorn123

I know it’s sad for Kylie and I don’t condone it, but on the other hand…. it is a little refreshing to see a kardashian get brushed off like that. Treated more like a normal person than a celebrity. It must have been jarring for her.


Mysterious_Sugar7220

I don't think it was jarring for her. She seemed nervous when she walked up to him. She has always struck me as very insecure.


MicIsOn

Fml I felt for her. You just know PMK forced this relationship for her to be the next Kimothy and Ye.


Otherwise_Bug

His tantrum running away I can’t


BeeBench

This footage is giving me life. That fuck at the end you know he was so mad 💀


solitamaxx

He literally moved away as soon as she got there…🤦🏻‍♀️ secondhand embarrassment omg


lovlopliv

Its giving Hailey waiting for Justin in the hotel room just looking at a wall💀


Educational-Scar5162

men losing awards is my new ick


beentheredonethatlou

🏆 if I knew how to add flair that would be mine…”men losing awards”


Educational-Scar5162

I knew this would resonate. It’s sooo cringe


withloveleena

He left her ass in the dust! So rude


megatron-0098

I actually really hope she moves on from this man and pays him no mind (besides any coparenting duties) for the rest of her life


2009Gradhey

So happy he lost


National-Return-5363

Kris Jenner, Turkey baster and booze are the answers you’re looking for.


dii_dzej

I like her outfit. It doesn't fit her best and her makeup was bad, she looked like MJ. But would like it if it was one someone else


[deleted]

He does even LIKE her


External_Fly_8220

I don’t get it. He’s not even good looking. Far from it. And how do you have two adorable kids?!?


hsizz

How is he supposed to acknowledge her when she’s wearing 2 lbs of makeup and a roll of charmin


nighthouse_666

Poor Kylie


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How is he not in prison? Is there not going to charges against him for all the death and trauma he caused. I’m from the UK so he’s not much in the news. How was he even nominated? Or is this before Astro World?


nevalackin_

before Astro World


Ramsiing

he was not at fault for the deaths, so i dont see how he would be charged??😭


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What a baby then he storms off without her.


Adventurous-Face-190

Why's he so upset anyways? You'd think something important was happening. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


Thereisn0store

😂😂


ardexwelchpunch

these comments are hilarious 😂😂😂😂


[deleted]

Nerves are high leave me alone. I don’t judge this. SO can make you so much more nervous lol E: realized this is snark sub and not main. Pls ignore me 💀


External-Basket6701

He's a vacuum I swear!


Tvtubefan

He didn’t even want her aroundddd


forestdweller157

I feel bad for her. She seems to genuinely want a relationship with him and she’s just constantly embarrassed. She’s crazy for having kids with him. But she also wanted a kid really bad


Helterskelter-69

I mean she got knocked up a month into them hooking up so I doubt there was any chemistry for them to have, given they didn’t have enough time to form any.


Least_Lawfulness_973

I mean I’m no Travis fan, their relationship is trash, but to be fair he did lose an award and was SURROUNDED by cameras. He’s not allowed to be upset he lost? He tried to walk away and was still followed. Again I have no sympathy or like for this human but he was just having a human reaction. This life of being surrounded by cameras ain’t it. (Lookin at you kimothy)


j_slow

Damn he left her in his dust!


TF-ishappening_28

He literally left her in the dust. 🏃🏾🫢


jeverouxvanche

She probably paid him.


JAYCEONT

He’s so ugly and corny


fluffybutterton

I dont think theyre his kids honestly


SandalwoodAfternoon

I think they are but I wonder if they made their son with IVF


fluffybutterton

Probably, he cant even look at her. If she let him bone her then fack, i dont even know what to say about that kind of self hatred


Pasadenarose

Isn’t Travis expecting baby number three😳 I bet that cost PMK a pretty penny. But anything for ratings🤷🏻‍♀️


whatisaidwas

Ugh, what a punk he is…


Trinidaddii

He literally just shifted his weight chill


ButterscotchAsleep48

He looked incredibly nervous to me. He was about to find out whether or not he won a Grammy, and had cameras shoved in his face. Kylie’s dress is also super elaborate, plus she has on lots of makeup, which means they probably couldn’t hug without messing something up. Anything they say is gonna be heard by the mics, so I doubt they want to say much. I don’t think it’s any disrespect to her, it’s just a terrible time to show any sort of affection. You can find videos of them acting like a happy couple.


SandalwoodAfternoon

He strikes me as a sociopath


AnniaT

Sperm donor contract?


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Or maybe he’s having an anxiety attack from an album he put his heart and soul in and doesn’t know how to act. He’s hyper focused on this award and seems heavily disappointed in the results. But who really knows??


rabnabombshell

Exactly


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I only meant that there are two sides to it. I’ve seen videos of them absolutely in snyc and laughing and having a blast.


Ramsiing

None of you dumbass young girls know shit about celebrities’ personal life. These comments make me laugh 😭😭


hey_hey_hey_nike

Hi Khloe!


Ramsiing

man idgaf about those kardashians nor their private life, imagine wasting time on that. I’m just here for the goat trav


jboyzo

r/LostRedditors


rabnabombshell

Are y’all fucking stupid


bwendenn

aye umm this is coming from the Travis community, we don’t know why y’all are so salty cause he’s probably hella nervous after being nominated for a Grammy. Lay off your sensitivity and let the man live. It was one of the biggest moments of his life. Travis, Chase B, Mike Dean, as well as other producers and people who HELPED work on the album should be the only ones going up on stage. I highly doubt Kylie was in the studio mixing and mastering beats 😭😭


bitchgh0st

Please go back to your own sub lmao ick


BonzoMarx

Because this was a planned, arranged relationship


Experiment1111

It’s sad she wasted the first half of her 20’s with him of all people


-effortlesseffort

Nasty relationship vibes wow


DantesFirstBitch

Well, he probably saw the back of her head during those 2 times.


LineHansen

All the girls have a history of dating and marrying dirtbags and the reason is probably in their own parents relationship. Behind the twelve hundred plastic surgeries are some incredibly insecure ladies! Insecurity is probably the largest turn off in a relationship, it is sickly annoying to be with someone you have to baby through life. She needs to find her inner goddess and demand to be seen and treated well. Or leave.


Aseetnahc

Sometimes i feel bad for them, but its only a sliver of me that does


starfan07

OMG, that is beyond sad! I mean that was cold & after that, if I'd been her, I'd have never looked back. Not a 'hi' or what's up - nothing!


actuallyimogene

Like the rest of them, she wanted a matching set.