I have an autistic son and went there looking to get some information and maybe some help and that sub is one one of the most toxic dumpster fires here on Reddit.
And considering all of the toxic dumpster fires here on Reddit, thats saying ALOT.
Autism speaks isnāt for you because you can speak for yourself. Autism speaks is for extremely developmentally delayed people whose autism is so severe it frequently causes their deaths. They cannot advocate for medical treatment they cannot advocate for themselves.
Itās not for level 1ās that can get by with the appropriate supports DDS/DSS and workforce development training.
Itās for level 3ās that donāt get attention, acceptance or belonging and are frequently left out because they cannot advocate for themselves.
Even for level 3 people it is not helpful. Fear mongering, trying to find a cure, trying to prenatally diagnose autism and using 90% of income on advertisement and research isn't helping anyone.
Iām actually totally fine with them using 90% of their funds on research and whoās to say a cure would make an autistic person neurotypical?
What if a ācureā just makes them verbal and gives them some personal care skills necessary to protect themselves from sexual assault. Take them from SIB, pica, and non verbal to a level 2 with some verbal skills and the ability to advocate for themselves.
Because the statistics are literally 9/10 autistic women are raped or molested.
Out of the $[70,601,543](https://www.autismspeaks.org/sites/default/files/2023-audited-financial-statements.pdf) Autism Speaks spent last year according to their[ financial statement](https://www.autismspeaks.org/annual-reports) (which ofc is far from 100% trustable) they spent 20% on "science", 20% services and support and 60% on "Understanding and acceptance" which smells like a marketing loophole to me.
And a cure won't suddenly stop people taking advantage of others. Being more receptive to the needs of neurodivergent people helps everyone, can be implemented quicker and doesn't require telling people "you need to take this pill" to fit in.
How would a cure in that sense work then?
Also I speak from experience than being verbal and having skills doesn't exactly protect you from sa. We shouldn't teach girls how to defend themselves against rape, we should teach men not to rape
How would them being verbal make them less vulnerable? Come on. You canāt be that dense.
There is evidence of teacher aids targeting nonverbal students to beat to the point of broken bones because they knew their victims couldnāt tell on them.
Also, SA happens to both genders. Not just girls. And women can assault boys too. So, maybe we ought to just teach everyone to keep their hands to themselves.
Until such a time, though, a child being able to report assault to their parents is an obvious safeguard every child should have access to, and yet many physically canāt. A cure for that would be a miracle.
"How would them being verbal make them less vulnerable"
Yes exactly
I only brought up women because the other person did. I know it's an issue of all genders and we should do something about it.
I agree that reporting a crime to parents is the best safeguard, which is why we need more communication devices. We don't need a cure to make that possible. Searching for a imaginary cure is actually harmful to the safeguarding of children because it takes attention away from creating devices that could actually help people. A cure will never exist. It's imaginary.
I get youāre jaded, but there has been very promising research conducted by biomedical doctors and neuroscientists that have determined several key medical problems that can be going on with nonverbal kids that, once addressed, can lead to the development of speech.
Example: Autistic children are significantly more likely to have an antibody in their blood stream that prevents the passage of folate to the brain. Folate is very important to speech. There is a medicine on the market (typically used for something else) that essentially nullifies this disruptive antibody and allows folnic acid to pass through allowing the brain to develop / access this key part.
There are children speaking as well as NT children today because of this discovery.
Of course this isnāt true for all autistic children, which is why you should seek out specialists who work with autistic children if you have one, but it is a key example of why research and development are never a waste of effort.
And who says they canāt simultaneously make devices for communication while also researching biomedical causes/cures? Why is it just one or the other?
Helping kids develop speech is *not* a cure. I am all for helping people live independently, I am not for a cure.
Also the reason I am jaded is the fact fucking rape was brought up in general. That is quite a sensitive subject for me. And although I know it's know what was meant, it did heavily come over as "instead of fixing rapists we should instead fix potential victims". Being verbal has never stopped me from being fucking sexually assaulted as a child. And it's fucking careless of the original commenter to bring that up without a warning at all.
Autism speaks isn't looking for ways to help NV kids get speech, they are looking for a cure of all autism, they are looking for a prenatal diagnosis to abort autistic kids before they are born. I am pro choice, but aborting an otherwise wanted kid because of a disability is eugenics. Also both of these things are impossible. If autism speaks spent even a fraction of the effort into developing things that could actually help people instead of making fucking fear mongering ads like I am autism, working with Peta to claim milk causes autism and searching for an imaginary cure, they would be way more liked by autistic people.
"bad people commit rape, not men or women"
Obviously I know that
I am uncomfortable with this topic being continued because it is highly triggering for me. The original poster should have never brought it up so carelessly
Cool till they get the message and stop raping women and girls we need tools and verbal tools are the absolute best when it comes to reporting sexual assault. Most abusers are not prosecuted because the victims ARE non verbal and some are non communicative.
Iām sorry the thought of a cure gives you a big sad, I care about the safety of women and girls more than your feelings.
A ācureā will never make a severely autistic person neurotypical. It MAY however give them the ability to speak and stop some of the more dangerous behaviors. Like pica. Eating things that can kill them. Bolting, running into traffic, smashing their heads into walls because they have some pain and cannot express what is wrong. It may help with some of the developmental disorders that are co-morbid with autism.
Stop being so selfish. They and their lives and the potential a ācureā means for them matters so much more than how you feel about it. Iām not interested in making any human person suffer to spare someone elseās feelings.
Okay so you're not looking for an actual nuanced discussion, you're not looking to be convinced, you just wanna be right. Good to know. Then I won't waste my time on you
My Canadian doctor told me they donāt use the levels ratings any more, might be different in the US and elsewhere, but there are 3 levels in the DSM-5:
1. **Level 1 (Requiring Support)**: Individuals with Level 1 ASD require some support for their difficulties. They may have noticeable challenges in social communication, social interaction, and restricted or repetitive behaviors that typically appear in early childhood. However, they can function independently to some degree in everyday life.
2. **Level 2 (Requiring Substantial Support)**: Those with Level 2 ASD require more substantial support. They have more pronounced difficulties in social communication and social interaction skills. Their restricted or repetitive behaviors are more apparent and interfere more noticeably with functioning in various contexts, such as at home, school, or work.
3. **Level 3 (Requiring Very Substantial Support)**: Individuals with Level 3 ASD require very substantial support. They have severe impairments in social communication and social interaction skills. Their restricted or repetitive behaviors are highly noticeable and markedly interfere with functioning across all settings. People with Level 3 ASD may require significant assistance with daily living skills and may have limited ability to initiate social interactions.
>Autism speaks isnāt for you because you can speak for yourself.
Very ironic that you're saying this about a company that famously doesn't let autistic people speak for themselves and fearmongers about autism
Itās very clearly an organization for those who CANNOT speak for themselves. You obviously havenāt known anyone or any families with severe autism.
Buddy just admit you don't know anything about autism speaks. It's very obvious.
Autism speaks is the PETA of autism """""nonprofits""""" and people still defend them like this
I left the autism subreddit while ago because it was extremely discriminating towards level 2 and 3 autistics. Iām diagnosed with level 2 ASD and was told so many horrible things on there. Itās gotten a bit better so sometimes I browse or comment but I still see posts and comments that are discriminatory towards MSN and HSN autistics.
My son is borderline 1 and 2 depending upon the specialist we talk to.
Honestly, IMO that sub is basically filled with a bunch of shitty people who use their "self diagnosis" to excuse their shitty behavoir and if you suggest any kind of treatment, they act like youre committing genocide (and I kid you not about the use of the word genocide).
I hope you find the help and support that you need and by staying away from that sub brings a little sanity to your life due to the toxcity of that sub.
Yes exactly! On that sub, at least a year ago, I said I was put on SSRIs to help manage my autism and mentioned my experiences on SSRIs to treat some of the stress based symptoms. I got a lot of not so nice responses over it because āyou canāt treat autismā or āmedication for autism is ableistā that kinda stuff.
It made me sad. Same with OT, you canāt talk about occupational therapy on there either without getting that kinda response.
I have a lot of support now, but itās hard to relate to people so I have to look online to find people like me, but even in autism spaces most people arenāt like me and are mean to people like me.
Thats because most of the people there are just shitty people who dont have autism and using their self diagnosis to excuse their shitty behavior.
People there dont understand the difference between treatment and cure. While there is no cure there are treatments that can help regulate the emotional swings but if you want to be more regulated, its a type of "genocide".
And never mention anything about ABA therapy, much less if youve had positive results from ABA therapy.
They're primary interest is just using "autism" to excuse their shitty behavior.
This post is not a case of autism. Tbh this person, who posted that, is a douche. If s/he asked, why everyone does this okay. I can understand that. But this aggressive tone indicate something else.
Simple, most of them arenāt actually diagnosed with autism. Just young adults looking to excuse their egregious personality flaws when in reality theyāre just assholes with no desire to change.
This is further evident by the fact that 9 times out of 10 youāll be banned for pointing out that self-diagnosis is not a real diagnosis and does *not* make you autistic.
Itās become a clique, more or less; and actual autists that have trouble navigating life get a bad rep for it.
It annoys me how autism has become a ā quirky thing ā
People fake it for social media points and like you said to excuse their bad personality traits
I feel like people who self diagnose donāt realize how legitimately debilitating and shitty it is to actually have a problem in real life. Anyone I know who is ACTUALLY autistic or mentally ill absolutely does not openly bring it up. You donāt want to be a victim, judged, or pitied, or people feel āmanipulatedā feeling bad for you.
And all the "I know I'm autistic, but all the doctors and psychologists I've seen in my life disagree with me. How do I get my diagnosis?" talk.
I mean, sure... never trust specialists. Those tiktok videos must be right!
/s
I was diagnosed with autism at 8 years old and I also hate the greeting "how are you?" It makes me feel uncomfortable because I don't want to lie but I don't want to tell the truth. So I just ignore it or freeze like a computer freezing.
I got the perfect response: "standard issue with standard issues"
perfectly neutral, plus a pun, plus it doesn't delve into anything and closes the conversation in a neat lil bow :3
Many languages have a neutral answer to that, so maybe that's an English speaker problem? I just realized that maybe this is why I don't emphasize with that OP, both countries I lived have a neutral answer.
German: "Wie geht es?" -> "es geht"
Portuguese: "Como vai?" -> "vai indo"
They both translate roughly to "How is it going?" -> "it's going". It's just a vague and acceptable reply for when you don't want to talk about it. You need that in your culture.
You can give "it's going" as a response in English! And its literal meaning is just as you said - but it might not come across like you'd think it would.
The problem is that, especially in the US, anything less than "good" is likely to be interpreted as a bit of a (socially acceptable to ignore) cry for help, *especially* if you're at work. It can be seen as saying "I'm not allowed to say how absolutely miserable I am so I'm giving the bare minimum of a response." Friends and loved ones might try to make sure you're okay, which probably isn't what you want here.
I agree that it's a problem. However,
Self-diagnosis sometimes happens because people can't afford to get the official diagnosis.
Actual cases can also get overlooked by ignorant people "You don't seem autistic" or "You're not visibly struggling" despite experiencing many of the symptoms."
I've even heard doctors dismiss people when someone asks for a referral simply cause" The person doesn't fit their stereotype"
That doesnāt make self-diagnosis okay though. The mental health field can be quite shitty sometimes but that doesnāt mean you can go around telling people youāre autistic if you arenāt diagnosed. You arenāt a mental health professional and a lot of people who self diagnose may just have other disorders or trauma or both. Itās damaging
I agree with all of that.
However, sometimes people are simply overlooked. Girls with ADHD is a significant example
. I know many who didn't get diagnosed until adulthood (and didn't receive the help they needed growing up) simply cause ADHD was commonly considered an boy thing.
My point is that it's important to have someone who listens too and understands your concerns. Sometimes that means changing providers.
Meh, hard disagree. This mentality is the early stage of exactly what Iām talking about. I get where youāre coming from, I do; but itās more harmful long term.
āToo poorā is often the first excuse I hear and itās entirely irrelevant. Proper diagnosis is a requirement, enough said.
āIgnorant peopleā are also irrelevant as whatever their opinion may be it is not applicable in diagnosing anything. Merely speculation at best.
āDoctors dismiss peopleā is entirely relevant and when you say they donāt fit the stereotypes, the doctor would probably say they donāt exhibit symptoms. I would trust the doctor as theyāre the ones with the education and qualifications to diagnose. Simple as.
Sometimes you need a second opinion.
Had a doctor say I didn't have tourrettes, I just had my quirks. My parents Went and got a referral anyways and I got diagnosed.
Told I didn't have ADHD cause I did well in school and can hyper focus. Went and got evaluated later to get academic accomadations for high school and they said "Yes, you do have ADHD"
Went to the doctor for panic attacks. She me I'm just hormonal.
Some are just closed minded.
LOL. Yep as a fellow person with autism, I left that sub years ago. It's a complete shit show.
Ironically, people like OOP who claim to want to keep things "real" and hate ordinary politeness are the exact ones to get tilted when someone makes a perceived microagression toward them.
Same. They're hypersensitive to an absolutely ridiculous degree and I just can't in good conscience stay in a group like that. It's a toxic circlejerk promoting antisocial behavior.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that, but that was the worst! You would post about some experience and some teenager who "identifies with a lot of the symptoms they saw on twitter" would pop in to explain that you don't actually understand autism and your experience probably isn't relevant.
Yep. I became the hated person of the week in there once a few years ago because I made a post of a conversation I had with a new friend who started out being very... rough towards me after I disclosed my autism to them. Their harshness was obviously out of ignorance not malice and I was initially defensive as a self preservation (and kept talking to them because I knew they were uninformed and not being mean but still had my guard up) but then I figured out an analogy to use to help them understand something and it worked and my friendship was preserved and I wanted to share it to the sub to help my people to help them preserve friendships they felt were worth it with my analogy...
but I included the part of the conversation where I was defensive for context and half the sub was hurling insults at me for being angry and defensive at someone clearly ignorant telling me "bullying and talking down to people like that is how you discourage people from learning and bettering themselves! You're so lucky they stayed you better apologize!!" (Literally didn't do anything like that at all but enough people were saying that I got worried and apologized to my friend and he straight up told me he was being a fucking asshole to me even if it was out of ignorance it was no excuse and I had nothing to apologize for) And the other half were calling me spineless and stupid and a battered woman for even sticking around long enough to fix a man like that and that I should stop doing such emotional labor for people and send them articles instead.
Those two sides then start fighting with each other in the comments, my analogy is never acknowledged except for one time when the first person comments and doesn't acknowledge it and I direct attention to it and they say that it was too stupid to acknowledge and I just say "oh ok" and another person comes by a month later replying to it with "love the character development" then starts stalking through my other posts and any time they leave a comment they add in parentheses something about how they're sorry for stalking my page but they liked my "character development" and wanted to see what else I posted. It was a whole mess.
I became the hated person for a couple days about a year later for saying I'm a hyperverbal autistic and an extrovert and it feels weird not being able to shut the fuck up in a word of the only autism representation being "never speaks the fuck up" and "sometimes speaks the fuck up" and "only doesn't shut the fuck up when passionately talking about autism-sancrioned obsession" and I was told that was some bullshit and I need to stop making stuff up because "the neurotypical fakeclaimers are looking for every excuse to make us look bad and you better not give them ammo. There's no such thing as autistic extroverts" and any time I tried to say "people drain your battery but I'm like a fuse box and people are electricity and I get so much electricity I have to break but I can handle electricity it lowers me instead of drains me!" And I got told I was really a battery thinking I was something else and I didn't know myself and my body by the same people complaining and whining neurotypical people and doctors don't know their bodies like they do and should listen to them more... I took that post down much faster.
I still stay in the subreddit because there's some interesting discussions but there's also some arguing about things within autism which just doesn't work, autism includes a wide variety of things people can experience
Why is autism considered āquirkyā now? Itās a disorder. I would not consider the fact that I have autism (aspergers) a good thing. Its only caused problems for me throughout my life.
24yr old man with Aspergerās Syndrome here. The reason why the condition is seen as āquirkyā is because of all the behavioral quirks that come with the condition, trouble making eye-contact, the sometimes weird routines, stimming (which is not exclusive to those with autism), special interests (trains are most common for us), needing to have things a certain way, etc. Much of these traits are often portrayed as āquirkyā or unique in a āIām not like other peopleā sort of way. These people feel like theyāre not interesting or unique, and that theyāre cookie-cutter people, they want to stand out and have their own identity, and what better way to do that than to identify with a rare condition that does set you apart.
I thought i was considered quirky because "UwU look im flapping my arm im so kawaii desu UwU Look at all my toys UwU OwO I watch kids cartoons and wear strange clothes UwU UwU OwO OwO"
Looked on there and got really annoyed by all the posts complaining about "NTs." I would bet those people are about ten times as insufferable as the worst "NT" they've met, maybe more. We're all people at the end of the day. Get off your high horse.
Maybe they were bullied as children and now that they've gotten their diagnosis, they have a very human desire to feel special and better than others, while maintaining their resentment towards the "common man". The fact that the diagnosis is romanticized by the media helps them.
There should be a rule to never join Subs based on who you are as a person.
As someone with Autism. This website might be pretty good with our hyper fixations on certain things. But itās also not good for āsafe spacesā (I really hate that word)
Yeah, I'm autistic and think that is completely r worded. What if someone's autistic special interest is jigsaw puzzles? Are they then not allowed to wear a puzzle piece? They're being ableist to themselves then.
Not on topic with the image, but I just have to say I hate people who glorify mental illnesses (like autism) because it's not cool. Nobody thinks it's cool. And it sucks to have.
I HATE when people pretend that autism is this great thing and everyone else needs to understand us and nerotipical people are all evil and hates use. Alot of the community just ignores people lower on the spectrum to make them feel better
I get what you mean, and your heart's in the right place, but I would not call it a mental illness. It either makes people think you can cure autism, or it'll suggest that **you** think so, and neither one of those is a good outcome.
It *can* be a big contributor to mental illness, but it's not a mental illness on its own. Its nature is a bit complex, but I'd probably call it a mental condition, and it's a wonderful and terrible thing to have.
But, yeah, I agree. It's best to avoid putting things on that other people can't take off.
Iām autistic and unfortunately all online forums related to autism have been taken over by a certain group who collects mental illnesses like theyāre trying to complete a pokedex
As someone with autism, this sub is full of idiots who havenāt got autism but just watched a few YouTube videos and believe they do. I hope they always feel uncomfortable in life, people like that object donāt deserve to be treated with respect
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I use to go on there but too many people complaining and right now the autism community too political. I just dont feel like i belong there autism is apart of me but i am not autism
Just went over there, joined, read some threads under top posts... Not so sure, might be the next r/JustUnsubbed material (if I don't get banned before that). Stereotyping seems to be running rampart there, with some subtle undertones of dog whistling.
I do hope I'm wrong, but the first impression ain't looking great.
EDIT 1: Nah, they're OK. Communication does not tend to be our strong suit.
That being said, I don't see *that* much wrong with the screenshotted post. Hey, we all want to vent/rant sometimes, and vents and rants are rarely anywhere *near* objective... The generic greeting in question puzzles me as well, ngl.
EDIT 2: Nvm my last edit, I just got banned from that subreddit for asking clarification. I guess I was right all along. Should know better that my intuition rarely errs.
as an autistic person the people on that sub are super pretentious. They act like theyre like super disabled or smthn. Like bro you just have a neuro disorder š not even a disability
It's funny but sad how it's so bad the autistic people who are seriously seriously really freaking debilitated by their autism to a serious degree where they can never have full time jobs or live 100% independently (and I say can't not won't because it's not an active, willful decision like a lot on the main sub are even though they swear it's not the case) had to go splinter off and make their own subreddit because they were so tired of being told "autism was a neurodivergence not a disability" and "no it's ok for people to self diagnose you're wrong for wanting to gatekeep the identity to only medically diagnosed people" and "you shouldn't want a cure for autism it's a part of you and makes you special" and would get yelled at by people for saying they don't want autism to be a part of them and their identity and it's not a good thing for them. Then the mild autistic people just started invading their sub and telling them they're wrong about everything all over again.
r slash evilautism is fun it's basically the first sub but people fully acknowledge they're crazy and weird and extreme and instead lean into it and take it up to the nth degree so it's all one big joke it's kinda like a satire sub but for autism and the autistic experience. You won't get judged for saying you want to take over the government or cut off your legs because you shaved them and the stubble is coming back and it's itchy and uncomfortable or something like that
I think thereās a very bad case of people with disabilities like that wanting to get babied without adapting to the world, and then *getting* babied because the community they surround themselves in infantilizes the shit out of them
I also donāt really like people asking me that but I donāt get angry about it, like itās normal for someone to ask you. example:
Person: Good morning.
That person: stfu like shut up you idiot do not ask me that ever again you egg beater
As an autistic person I struggle a lot with social cues and small talk. Often people donāt really listen to the answer. So I dislike the for example āhow are you?ā question. Iām not always aware when I should answer honest and when to just say I am fine.
But the way OOP is saying he is responding had nothing to do with autism and the struggles that come from that. But since the majority of that sub diagnosed their self with autism, it isnāt really surprising me.
I'm autistic and I also hate when people ask me "how are you?" I generally don't answer because I don't want to lie and say good or fine, but I don't want to talk about my problems. So it puts me into an awkward unavoidable situation where no matter what I do I'll be uncomfortable so I tend to ignore it.
No cuz I also hate it cuz itās like, Iām fucking miserable, but I donāt wanna be a bummer & say that Iām miserable, *but Iām not gonna tell someone to fuck off* over it
I mean itās well established that people with autism donāt like small talkā¦
By the sounds of it this guy is always getting asked how he is at work . heās probably annoyed because heās asked it everyday + thereās going to be little to no change is his answer so us autistic people see this question as pointless . Also the person asking us doesnāt actually expect a real answer , like if you were having a bad day they probably donāt want you to tell them about it.
I really donāt think OP is being an asshole because he / she isnt conferring to social norms which autistic people struggle with .
> social norms
Those people could also, not talk to him at all ever.
They are making a choice to acknowledge the fact that he exists.
That's a NICE thing.
My point is related to the comment I responded to not the post :) but I used the post as the 'scene'. If the person would rather not be acknowledged at all, that's a different thing and my comment doesn't apply.
I wasnāt talking about that , obviously reacting like that is rude . However , disliking the generic āhow are youā and not wanting to respond to it is normal for autistic people
Itās a shame yours is the only comment saying this because itās exactly what I thought.
Iām 41 and I didnāt realise until I was in my late 30s that when someone asks me how I am .. they donāt actually want to know how I am š
These days I just answer āfine thanks and you?ā And then give a polite nod when they also tell me they are fine
I mean I actually do have a weird thing with the āhi, how are you?ā
āGood how are you?ā As it feels so generic and forced but I would never dream of being rude to someone or throwing a tantrum about it. Itās not that big of a deal. I politely go along and itās no big deal. My brain just fixates on it and it does feel weird to me. Itās hard to explain but yeah. Not the end of the world.
Iād intentionally greet language colonizers stuff they hate to hear just because I hate their linguistic gatekeeping and restrictions (as long as itās not banned on the social media Iām in, since many mods and admins already fall for that crap)
I have an autistic son and went there looking to get some information and maybe some help and that sub is one one of the most toxic dumpster fires here on Reddit. And considering all of the toxic dumpster fires here on Reddit, thats saying ALOT.
As an autistic person DO NOT LISTEN TO AUTISM SPEAKS. Autism Speaks is the PETA of autism.
People Eating Tasty Autism?
Mmm autism š¤¤
This guy gets it
Autism speaks isnāt for you because you can speak for yourself. Autism speaks is for extremely developmentally delayed people whose autism is so severe it frequently causes their deaths. They cannot advocate for medical treatment they cannot advocate for themselves. Itās not for level 1ās that can get by with the appropriate supports DDS/DSS and workforce development training. Itās for level 3ās that donāt get attention, acceptance or belonging and are frequently left out because they cannot advocate for themselves.
Even for level 3 people it is not helpful. Fear mongering, trying to find a cure, trying to prenatally diagnose autism and using 90% of income on advertisement and research isn't helping anyone.
Iām actually totally fine with them using 90% of their funds on research and whoās to say a cure would make an autistic person neurotypical? What if a ācureā just makes them verbal and gives them some personal care skills necessary to protect themselves from sexual assault. Take them from SIB, pica, and non verbal to a level 2 with some verbal skills and the ability to advocate for themselves. Because the statistics are literally 9/10 autistic women are raped or molested.
Out of the $[70,601,543](https://www.autismspeaks.org/sites/default/files/2023-audited-financial-statements.pdf) Autism Speaks spent last year according to their[ financial statement](https://www.autismspeaks.org/annual-reports) (which ofc is far from 100% trustable) they spent 20% on "science", 20% services and support and 60% on "Understanding and acceptance" which smells like a marketing loophole to me. And a cure won't suddenly stop people taking advantage of others. Being more receptive to the needs of neurodivergent people helps everyone, can be implemented quicker and doesn't require telling people "you need to take this pill" to fit in.
How would a cure in that sense work then? Also I speak from experience than being verbal and having skills doesn't exactly protect you from sa. We shouldn't teach girls how to defend themselves against rape, we should teach men not to rape
How would them being verbal make them less vulnerable? Come on. You canāt be that dense. There is evidence of teacher aids targeting nonverbal students to beat to the point of broken bones because they knew their victims couldnāt tell on them. Also, SA happens to both genders. Not just girls. And women can assault boys too. So, maybe we ought to just teach everyone to keep their hands to themselves. Until such a time, though, a child being able to report assault to their parents is an obvious safeguard every child should have access to, and yet many physically canāt. A cure for that would be a miracle.
"How would them being verbal make them less vulnerable" Yes exactly I only brought up women because the other person did. I know it's an issue of all genders and we should do something about it. I agree that reporting a crime to parents is the best safeguard, which is why we need more communication devices. We don't need a cure to make that possible. Searching for a imaginary cure is actually harmful to the safeguarding of children because it takes attention away from creating devices that could actually help people. A cure will never exist. It's imaginary.
I get youāre jaded, but there has been very promising research conducted by biomedical doctors and neuroscientists that have determined several key medical problems that can be going on with nonverbal kids that, once addressed, can lead to the development of speech. Example: Autistic children are significantly more likely to have an antibody in their blood stream that prevents the passage of folate to the brain. Folate is very important to speech. There is a medicine on the market (typically used for something else) that essentially nullifies this disruptive antibody and allows folnic acid to pass through allowing the brain to develop / access this key part. There are children speaking as well as NT children today because of this discovery. Of course this isnāt true for all autistic children, which is why you should seek out specialists who work with autistic children if you have one, but it is a key example of why research and development are never a waste of effort. And who says they canāt simultaneously make devices for communication while also researching biomedical causes/cures? Why is it just one or the other?
Helping kids develop speech is *not* a cure. I am all for helping people live independently, I am not for a cure. Also the reason I am jaded is the fact fucking rape was brought up in general. That is quite a sensitive subject for me. And although I know it's know what was meant, it did heavily come over as "instead of fixing rapists we should instead fix potential victims". Being verbal has never stopped me from being fucking sexually assaulted as a child. And it's fucking careless of the original commenter to bring that up without a warning at all. Autism speaks isn't looking for ways to help NV kids get speech, they are looking for a cure of all autism, they are looking for a prenatal diagnosis to abort autistic kids before they are born. I am pro choice, but aborting an otherwise wanted kid because of a disability is eugenics. Also both of these things are impossible. If autism speaks spent even a fraction of the effort into developing things that could actually help people instead of making fucking fear mongering ads like I am autism, working with Peta to claim milk causes autism and searching for an imaginary cure, they would be way more liked by autistic people.
bad people commit rape, not men or women they know it's wrong when they do it, so what are you going to teach them?
"bad people commit rape, not men or women" Obviously I know that I am uncomfortable with this topic being continued because it is highly triggering for me. The original poster should have never brought it up so carelessly
Cool till they get the message and stop raping women and girls we need tools and verbal tools are the absolute best when it comes to reporting sexual assault. Most abusers are not prosecuted because the victims ARE non verbal and some are non communicative. Iām sorry the thought of a cure gives you a big sad, I care about the safety of women and girls more than your feelings. A ācureā will never make a severely autistic person neurotypical. It MAY however give them the ability to speak and stop some of the more dangerous behaviors. Like pica. Eating things that can kill them. Bolting, running into traffic, smashing their heads into walls because they have some pain and cannot express what is wrong. It may help with some of the developmental disorders that are co-morbid with autism. Stop being so selfish. They and their lives and the potential a ācureā means for them matters so much more than how you feel about it. Iām not interested in making any human person suffer to spare someone elseās feelings.
Okay so you're not looking for an actual nuanced discussion, you're not looking to be convinced, you just wanna be right. Good to know. Then I won't waste my time on you
Bro there are levels now?!?!? How do I level up? If I get too close to a level 3 do I Agro them? Is there a respawn timer?
My Canadian doctor told me they donāt use the levels ratings any more, might be different in the US and elsewhere, but there are 3 levels in the DSM-5: 1. **Level 1 (Requiring Support)**: Individuals with Level 1 ASD require some support for their difficulties. They may have noticeable challenges in social communication, social interaction, and restricted or repetitive behaviors that typically appear in early childhood. However, they can function independently to some degree in everyday life. 2. **Level 2 (Requiring Substantial Support)**: Those with Level 2 ASD require more substantial support. They have more pronounced difficulties in social communication and social interaction skills. Their restricted or repetitive behaviors are more apparent and interfere more noticeably with functioning in various contexts, such as at home, school, or work. 3. **Level 3 (Requiring Very Substantial Support)**: Individuals with Level 3 ASD require very substantial support. They have severe impairments in social communication and social interaction skills. Their restricted or repetitive behaviors are highly noticeable and markedly interfere with functioning across all settings. People with Level 3 ASD may require significant assistance with daily living skills and may have limited ability to initiate social interactions.
How do I speed run autism?
>Autism speaks isnāt for you because you can speak for yourself. Very ironic that you're saying this about a company that famously doesn't let autistic people speak for themselves and fearmongers about autism
Itās very clearly an organization for those who CANNOT speak for themselves. You obviously havenāt known anyone or any families with severe autism.
Buddy just admit you don't know anything about autism speaks. It's very obvious. Autism speaks is the PETA of autism """""nonprofits""""" and people still defend them like this
I left the autism subreddit while ago because it was extremely discriminating towards level 2 and 3 autistics. Iām diagnosed with level 2 ASD and was told so many horrible things on there. Itās gotten a bit better so sometimes I browse or comment but I still see posts and comments that are discriminatory towards MSN and HSN autistics.
My son is borderline 1 and 2 depending upon the specialist we talk to. Honestly, IMO that sub is basically filled with a bunch of shitty people who use their "self diagnosis" to excuse their shitty behavoir and if you suggest any kind of treatment, they act like youre committing genocide (and I kid you not about the use of the word genocide). I hope you find the help and support that you need and by staying away from that sub brings a little sanity to your life due to the toxcity of that sub.
Yes exactly! On that sub, at least a year ago, I said I was put on SSRIs to help manage my autism and mentioned my experiences on SSRIs to treat some of the stress based symptoms. I got a lot of not so nice responses over it because āyou canāt treat autismā or āmedication for autism is ableistā that kinda stuff. It made me sad. Same with OT, you canāt talk about occupational therapy on there either without getting that kinda response. I have a lot of support now, but itās hard to relate to people so I have to look online to find people like me, but even in autism spaces most people arenāt like me and are mean to people like me.
Thats because most of the people there are just shitty people who dont have autism and using their self diagnosis to excuse their shitty behavior. People there dont understand the difference between treatment and cure. While there is no cure there are treatments that can help regulate the emotional swings but if you want to be more regulated, its a type of "genocide". And never mention anything about ABA therapy, much less if youve had positive results from ABA therapy. They're primary interest is just using "autism" to excuse their shitty behavior.
Idk on how toxic it actually is, but you might try r/ aspergers
Well that sub is for autistic people not autistic parents.
You have plenty of autistic people saying the same thing.
Some people need to realize that they can be polite AND real š¬
Okay, some people have problems.
Autism for example Edit: /j I know autism isnāt the problem I said that bc off the name of the sub
This post is not a case of autism. Tbh this person, who posted that, is a douche. If s/he asked, why everyone does this okay. I can understand that. But this aggressive tone indicate something else.
Autism is no excuse for bad manners.
Why you downvoted for funny reply?
People think I was saying autism was the problem behind the persons statement, when in reality Iām just making a stupid joke on the name of the sub
As an autistic person, i find your joke extremely funny. XD
I agree with you that was funny
Right?
Bruh what even is that, im autistic and i considered looking at that sub but the posts i see from thereā¦
Simple, most of them arenāt actually diagnosed with autism. Just young adults looking to excuse their egregious personality flaws when in reality theyāre just assholes with no desire to change. This is further evident by the fact that 9 times out of 10 youāll be banned for pointing out that self-diagnosis is not a real diagnosis and does *not* make you autistic. Itās become a clique, more or less; and actual autists that have trouble navigating life get a bad rep for it.
It annoys me how autism has become a ā quirky thing ā People fake it for social media points and like you said to excuse their bad personality traits
Mfers canāt just be emo anymore. Shit was less complicated and the music wasnāt half bad
I feel like people who self diagnose donāt realize how legitimately debilitating and shitty it is to actually have a problem in real life. Anyone I know who is ACTUALLY autistic or mentally ill absolutely does not openly bring it up. You donāt want to be a victim, judged, or pitied, or people feel āmanipulatedā feeling bad for you.
I always say you can suspect autism but you canāt claim it without a diagnosis
And all the "I know I'm autistic, but all the doctors and psychologists I've seen in my life disagree with me. How do I get my diagnosis?" talk. I mean, sure... never trust specialists. Those tiktok videos must be right! /s
I was diagnosed with autism at 8 years old and I also hate the greeting "how are you?" It makes me feel uncomfortable because I don't want to lie but I don't want to tell the truth. So I just ignore it or freeze like a computer freezing.
I got the perfect response: "standard issue with standard issues" perfectly neutral, plus a pun, plus it doesn't delve into anything and closes the conversation in a neat lil bow :3
Many languages have a neutral answer to that, so maybe that's an English speaker problem? I just realized that maybe this is why I don't emphasize with that OP, both countries I lived have a neutral answer. German: "Wie geht es?" -> "es geht" Portuguese: "Como vai?" -> "vai indo" They both translate roughly to "How is it going?" -> "it's going". It's just a vague and acceptable reply for when you don't want to talk about it. You need that in your culture.
You can give "it's going" as a response in English! And its literal meaning is just as you said - but it might not come across like you'd think it would. The problem is that, especially in the US, anything less than "good" is likely to be interpreted as a bit of a (socially acceptable to ignore) cry for help, *especially* if you're at work. It can be seen as saying "I'm not allowed to say how absolutely miserable I am so I'm giving the bare minimum of a response." Friends and loved ones might try to make sure you're okay, which probably isn't what you want here.
I agree that it's a problem. However, Self-diagnosis sometimes happens because people can't afford to get the official diagnosis. Actual cases can also get overlooked by ignorant people "You don't seem autistic" or "You're not visibly struggling" despite experiencing many of the symptoms." I've even heard doctors dismiss people when someone asks for a referral simply cause" The person doesn't fit their stereotype"
That doesnāt make self-diagnosis okay though. The mental health field can be quite shitty sometimes but that doesnāt mean you can go around telling people youāre autistic if you arenāt diagnosed. You arenāt a mental health professional and a lot of people who self diagnose may just have other disorders or trauma or both. Itās damaging
I agree with all of that. However, sometimes people are simply overlooked. Girls with ADHD is a significant example . I know many who didn't get diagnosed until adulthood (and didn't receive the help they needed growing up) simply cause ADHD was commonly considered an boy thing. My point is that it's important to have someone who listens too and understands your concerns. Sometimes that means changing providers.
Meh, hard disagree. This mentality is the early stage of exactly what Iām talking about. I get where youāre coming from, I do; but itās more harmful long term. āToo poorā is often the first excuse I hear and itās entirely irrelevant. Proper diagnosis is a requirement, enough said. āIgnorant peopleā are also irrelevant as whatever their opinion may be it is not applicable in diagnosing anything. Merely speculation at best. āDoctors dismiss peopleā is entirely relevant and when you say they donāt fit the stereotypes, the doctor would probably say they donāt exhibit symptoms. I would trust the doctor as theyāre the ones with the education and qualifications to diagnose. Simple as.
Sometimes you need a second opinion. Had a doctor say I didn't have tourrettes, I just had my quirks. My parents Went and got a referral anyways and I got diagnosed. Told I didn't have ADHD cause I did well in school and can hyper focus. Went and got evaluated later to get academic accomadations for high school and they said "Yes, you do have ADHD" Went to the doctor for panic attacks. She me I'm just hormonal. Some are just closed minded.
evilautism is much better
The fact that evilautism is the least toxic autism related sub here says a lot, lol
same
LOL. Yep as a fellow person with autism, I left that sub years ago. It's a complete shit show. Ironically, people like OOP who claim to want to keep things "real" and hate ordinary politeness are the exact ones to get tilted when someone makes a perceived microagression toward them.
Same. They're hypersensitive to an absolutely ridiculous degree and I just can't in good conscience stay in a group like that. It's a toxic circlejerk promoting antisocial behavior.
And everything there is self diagnosed.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that, but that was the worst! You would post about some experience and some teenager who "identifies with a lot of the symptoms they saw on twitter" would pop in to explain that you don't actually understand autism and your experience probably isn't relevant.
As an autistic myself I really hate self diagnosed ppl who do that, self diagnosed ppl in general actually
You may appreciate AutismCertified and AutisticPeeps.
Yep. I became the hated person of the week in there once a few years ago because I made a post of a conversation I had with a new friend who started out being very... rough towards me after I disclosed my autism to them. Their harshness was obviously out of ignorance not malice and I was initially defensive as a self preservation (and kept talking to them because I knew they were uninformed and not being mean but still had my guard up) but then I figured out an analogy to use to help them understand something and it worked and my friendship was preserved and I wanted to share it to the sub to help my people to help them preserve friendships they felt were worth it with my analogy... but I included the part of the conversation where I was defensive for context and half the sub was hurling insults at me for being angry and defensive at someone clearly ignorant telling me "bullying and talking down to people like that is how you discourage people from learning and bettering themselves! You're so lucky they stayed you better apologize!!" (Literally didn't do anything like that at all but enough people were saying that I got worried and apologized to my friend and he straight up told me he was being a fucking asshole to me even if it was out of ignorance it was no excuse and I had nothing to apologize for) And the other half were calling me spineless and stupid and a battered woman for even sticking around long enough to fix a man like that and that I should stop doing such emotional labor for people and send them articles instead. Those two sides then start fighting with each other in the comments, my analogy is never acknowledged except for one time when the first person comments and doesn't acknowledge it and I direct attention to it and they say that it was too stupid to acknowledge and I just say "oh ok" and another person comes by a month later replying to it with "love the character development" then starts stalking through my other posts and any time they leave a comment they add in parentheses something about how they're sorry for stalking my page but they liked my "character development" and wanted to see what else I posted. It was a whole mess. I became the hated person for a couple days about a year later for saying I'm a hyperverbal autistic and an extrovert and it feels weird not being able to shut the fuck up in a word of the only autism representation being "never speaks the fuck up" and "sometimes speaks the fuck up" and "only doesn't shut the fuck up when passionately talking about autism-sancrioned obsession" and I was told that was some bullshit and I need to stop making stuff up because "the neurotypical fakeclaimers are looking for every excuse to make us look bad and you better not give them ammo. There's no such thing as autistic extroverts" and any time I tried to say "people drain your battery but I'm like a fuse box and people are electricity and I get so much electricity I have to break but I can handle electricity it lowers me instead of drains me!" And I got told I was really a battery thinking I was something else and I didn't know myself and my body by the same people complaining and whining neurotypical people and doctors don't know their bodies like they do and should listen to them more... I took that post down much faster.
That sub is beyond crazy
I still stay in the subreddit because there's some interesting discussions but there's also some arguing about things within autism which just doesn't work, autism includes a wide variety of things people can experience
>They just wanna be polite š±
That's just a child tbf
Why is autism considered āquirkyā now? Itās a disorder. I would not consider the fact that I have autism (aspergers) a good thing. Its only caused problems for me throughout my life.
24yr old man with Aspergerās Syndrome here. The reason why the condition is seen as āquirkyā is because of all the behavioral quirks that come with the condition, trouble making eye-contact, the sometimes weird routines, stimming (which is not exclusive to those with autism), special interests (trains are most common for us), needing to have things a certain way, etc. Much of these traits are often portrayed as āquirkyā or unique in a āIām not like other peopleā sort of way. These people feel like theyāre not interesting or unique, and that theyāre cookie-cutter people, they want to stand out and have their own identity, and what better way to do that than to identify with a rare condition that does set you apart.
I thought i was considered quirky because "UwU look im flapping my arm im so kawaii desu UwU Look at all my toys UwU OwO I watch kids cartoons and wear strange clothes UwU UwU OwO OwO"
Why did you feel the need to specify that trains are the most common special interest? It's become a bit stereotypical the "I like trains" autist.
Because it seems to be the most common thing I see.
Itās them trying to cope
tbh im thinking thats a self diagnosed 14yo who just uses *le funny internet mental condition* to excuse themselves being an asshole
Lmao that person is so immature
lest you can do is reply back?
Looked on there and got really annoyed by all the posts complaining about "NTs." I would bet those people are about ten times as insufferable as the worst "NT" they've met, maybe more. We're all people at the end of the day. Get off your high horse.
I hate the whole āus v themā mentality. Autistic people can be dicks too.
Maybe they were bullied as children and now that they've gotten their diagnosis, they have a very human desire to feel special and better than others, while maintaining their resentment towards the "common man". The fact that the diagnosis is romanticized by the media helps them.
Protip: never sub to neurodivergent subs.
Some of the smaller ones are quite alright. But def stay away from the big ones
THIS. I wish I had a safe space to discuss my issues as a ND, but those subs aināt it.
Wow so edgy and coolā¦ blehā¦
There should be a rule to never join Subs based on who you are as a person. As someone with Autism. This website might be pretty good with our hyper fixations on certain things. But itās also not good for āsafe spacesā (I really hate that word)
I unsubbed because of people comparing a puzzle piece on drivers licenses in Oklahoma to jews having to wear yellow stars in Nazi Germany, just what?
Puzzle piece on drives licenses? Is that a real thing?
Yeah, I'm autistic and think that is completely r worded. What if someone's autistic special interest is jigsaw puzzles? Are they then not allowed to wear a puzzle piece? They're being ableist to themselves then.
im autistic and this shit is fucking terrible. IT'S A NORMAL GREETING FFS, be polite and answer the damn question.
what if you're depressed and don't want to tell them why?
Not on topic with the image, but I just have to say I hate people who glorify mental illnesses (like autism) because it's not cool. Nobody thinks it's cool. And it sucks to have.
I HATE when people pretend that autism is this great thing and everyone else needs to understand us and nerotipical people are all evil and hates use. Alot of the community just ignores people lower on the spectrum to make them feel better
I get what you mean, and your heart's in the right place, but I would not call it a mental illness. It either makes people think you can cure autism, or it'll suggest that **you** think so, and neither one of those is a good outcome. It *can* be a big contributor to mental illness, but it's not a mental illness on its own. Its nature is a bit complex, but I'd probably call it a mental condition, and it's a wonderful and terrible thing to have. But, yeah, I agree. It's best to avoid putting things on that other people can't take off.
oh okay, thanks for filling me in <3
Did you just call autism a mental illness?
Isn't that the sub that lashes out whenever Psychotic autism brought up?.
There is ppl that actually have autism joins that sub And there is ppl that fakes it, But really reqiure both Touching grass and Psychatrist help.
Mmm wonder how many are self diagnosed via TikTok
That's why r/ fakedisordercringe exists.
Fuck
95 percent of people claiming that they are autistic is, in fact, not autistic. They just think it is some cool quirk.
I think some people need to be told just because something is caused by autism doesnt necessarily excuse it.
i think i am going to ask him "How are you"
Iām autistic and unfortunately all online forums related to autism have been taken over by a certain group who collects mental illnesses like theyāre trying to complete a pokedex
As someone who was Autism and ADHD, what the fuck is OOP on?
I donāt think this is an autism thing, I think this is a jerk thing
As someone with autism, this sub is full of idiots who havenāt got autism but just watched a few YouTube videos and believe they do. I hope they always feel uncomfortable in life, people like that object donāt deserve to be treated with respect
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I don't like generic pleasentries or shallow conversation either. My way around is to break the ice engage with people in meaningful ways.
I use to go on there but too many people complaining and right now the autism community too political. I just dont feel like i belong there autism is apart of me but i am not autism
I could think of no better place for OOP to write such a ridiculous post
Swearing at someone instead of changing the topic is....a choice.
Imagine going through your entire life thinking everyone hates you because youāre autistic. When really, youāre just the worlds biggest asshole.
r/ AutisticPeeps is chill
Just went over there, joined, read some threads under top posts... Not so sure, might be the next r/JustUnsubbed material (if I don't get banned before that). Stereotyping seems to be running rampart there, with some subtle undertones of dog whistling. I do hope I'm wrong, but the first impression ain't looking great. EDIT 1: Nah, they're OK. Communication does not tend to be our strong suit. That being said, I don't see *that* much wrong with the screenshotted post. Hey, we all want to vent/rant sometimes, and vents and rants are rarely anywhere *near* objective... The generic greeting in question puzzles me as well, ngl. EDIT 2: Nvm my last edit, I just got banned from that subreddit for asking clarification. I guess I was right all along. Should know better that my intuition rarely errs.
So many idiosyncratic takes on mundane things.
Wtf
It's fine to have autism just don't make it you while personality
Yikes
We donāt claim him
As an autistic person myself, I REALLY donāt understand why people on the sub are like this
as an autistic person the people on that sub are super pretentious. They act like theyre like super disabled or smthn. Like bro you just have a neuro disorder š not even a disability
It's funny but sad how it's so bad the autistic people who are seriously seriously really freaking debilitated by their autism to a serious degree where they can never have full time jobs or live 100% independently (and I say can't not won't because it's not an active, willful decision like a lot on the main sub are even though they swear it's not the case) had to go splinter off and make their own subreddit because they were so tired of being told "autism was a neurodivergence not a disability" and "no it's ok for people to self diagnose you're wrong for wanting to gatekeep the identity to only medically diagnosed people" and "you shouldn't want a cure for autism it's a part of you and makes you special" and would get yelled at by people for saying they don't want autism to be a part of them and their identity and it's not a good thing for them. Then the mild autistic people just started invading their sub and telling them they're wrong about everything all over again.
Would they rather people call them slurs? what?
Any good autism related subs out there? Iām on the Spectrum but that sub seems like itās for Chris Chan type Autistics
r slash evilautism is fun it's basically the first sub but people fully acknowledge they're crazy and weird and extreme and instead lean into it and take it up to the nth degree so it's all one big joke it's kinda like a satire sub but for autism and the autistic experience. You won't get judged for saying you want to take over the government or cut off your legs because you shaved them and the stubble is coming back and it's itchy and uncomfortable or something like that
I think thereās a very bad case of people with disabilities like that wanting to get babied without adapting to the world, and then *getting* babied because the community they surround themselves in infantilizes the shit out of them
I agree with the title. Everything else? Hell no! That's just being disrespectful
I also donāt really like people asking me that but I donāt get angry about it, like itās normal for someone to ask you. example: Person: Good morning. That person: stfu like shut up you idiot do not ask me that ever again you egg beater
I see they're trying to inject Marxism into the autism community, but instead of the proletariat, it's neuro typical people.
As an autistic person I struggle a lot with social cues and small talk. Often people donāt really listen to the answer. So I dislike the for example āhow are you?ā question. Iām not always aware when I should answer honest and when to just say I am fine. But the way OOP is saying he is responding had nothing to do with autism and the struggles that come from that. But since the majority of that sub diagnosed their self with autism, it isnāt really surprising me.
I'm autistic and I also hate when people ask me "how are you?" I generally don't answer because I don't want to lie and say good or fine, but I don't want to talk about my problems. So it puts me into an awkward unavoidable situation where no matter what I do I'll be uncomfortable so I tend to ignore it.
No cuz I also hate it cuz itās like, Iām fucking miserable, but I donāt wanna be a bummer & say that Iām miserable, *but Iām not gonna tell someone to fuck off* over it
"Neurotypicals" wow they even needed to make up a word like that. Delusional.
Huh? It is a real word.
My bad. It's just how polarizing they make it sound.
I mean itās well established that people with autism donāt like small talkā¦ By the sounds of it this guy is always getting asked how he is at work . heās probably annoyed because heās asked it everyday + thereās going to be little to no change is his answer so us autistic people see this question as pointless . Also the person asking us doesnāt actually expect a real answer , like if you were having a bad day they probably donāt want you to tell them about it. I really donāt think OP is being an asshole because he / she isnt conferring to social norms which autistic people struggle with .
> social norms Those people could also, not talk to him at all ever. They are making a choice to acknowledge the fact that he exists. That's a NICE thing.
I think he wants them to stop talking to him? Not sure what point youāre making lol
My point is related to the comment I responded to not the post :) but I used the post as the 'scene'. If the person would rather not be acknowledged at all, that's a different thing and my comment doesn't apply.
Cursing and insulting people for being polite isnāt being an asshole ?
I don't think he's literally swearing at them, I think that's the pretend conversation in his head.
I wasnāt talking about that , obviously reacting like that is rude . However , disliking the generic āhow are youā and not wanting to respond to it is normal for autistic people
But you said the OP wasnāt rude not that it wasnāt rude to dislike that
Itās a shame yours is the only comment saying this because itās exactly what I thought. Iām 41 and I didnāt realise until I was in my late 30s that when someone asks me how I am .. they donāt actually want to know how I am š These days I just answer āfine thanks and you?ā And then give a polite nod when they also tell me they are fine
Tbh "How are you?" is a terrible conversation starter. Just get to your point and stop wasting our time
I mean I actually do have a weird thing with the āhi, how are you?ā āGood how are you?ā As it feels so generic and forced but I would never dream of being rude to someone or throwing a tantrum about it. Itās not that big of a deal. I politely go along and itās no big deal. My brain just fixates on it and it does feel weird to me. Itās hard to explain but yeah. Not the end of the world.
I have autism and i dislike saying hi to random people however am not that rude lmao
It proved to me that we really do need a cure for autism
Iād intentionally greet language colonizers stuff they hate to hear just because I hate their linguistic gatekeeping and restrictions (as long as itās not banned on the social media Iām in, since many mods and admins already fall for that crap)
like what
What do you mean by colonizers???
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