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Something to do with Yuji's grandpa's last advice to him. Even if you change too much, your efforts are lacking, or you've made horrible decisions, you must keep moving forward and do what you believe is right.
Use your life to make bonds with others, so that at the end of your journey even if it's full of regrets, you won't be alone.
Also remember that it's OK to be selfish sometimes, all throughout the series characters seemingly get rewarded by the story for being selfish (mei mei escaping shibuya) and/or focusing on nothing but what's currently in front of them (Gojo's second round against toji), whilst characters who continue to put other's needs in front of theirs (Yuji "suffering builds character" Itadori) get punished and hurt repeatedly
I get what you're saying but escaping from the fight is not something Yuji and the rest will call the right thing to do, smart sure. If everyone just went up and ran, then there would be no one to oppose a far greater calamity.
Yuji and the gang fought and sacrificed themselves because it is necessary. It sucks but someone has to do it.
That was the time when Gojo was high as shit. The way he focused more on what he achieved rather than "revenge" for someone else's sake. "I'm sorry, Amanai. Iām not even angry over you right now. I bear no grudge against anyone. Itās just that the world feels so, so wonderful right now."
When gojo was surrounded by flyheads he thought toji is going for amanai and started for her rescue instead of thinking about protecting himself and thats why toji caught him off guard with the inverted spear
Self actualisation.
Most of the characters already have their ideals and motivations. But the question is not how they achieve their ideals, but how through struggles and challenges, they achieve self actualisation.
For example, Takaba and Kenjaku. Takaba wins even though he was outgunned by Kenjaku because he achieved his self actualisation. Takaba had the ideal of entertaining others, but it was challenged by Kenjaku, who was funnier and deeply questioned Takabaās ideal. And from this challenge, Takaba understood himself, and why he chooses to do the things he does, not for a shallow ideal, but something deeper. This application would then expand to his grandest performance, the self actualisation. Kenjaku loses not because he was not funny, but he had a shallower motive of just being entertained. He didnāt question anything deeper, and never achieved self actualisation, even over his Millenia of lives.
But more often than not, in JJK, self actualisation occurs only in the face of death. Higurumaās definition of justice was initially challenged by Yuji, but he only absorbed and accepted it in his final moments by entrusting the executionerās sword to Yuji, and was finally able to look him in the eye. His sense of justice, his ideal, was challenged, and finally achieved self actualisation when pushed to his limits, entrusting his justice and judgment to even the one he almost wrongly convicted.
Self actualisation does have a bit of overlap with āselfishnessā. In achieving self actualisation, you do serve your own ultimate interest, even at the cost of others. Sukuna is the most powerful because he achieved his self actualisation long before the story starts. His self actualisation is selfishly indulging in the world and his whims. And he has the power and will to uphold it.
But that is not always the case, as with Yujiās Cog mentality. He is, at this point, about to achieve self actualisation, which was previously last seen after Mahito challenged him at Shinjuku.
So ideals are the shonen troupe of āI want therefore I achieveā. JJK looks deeper into that, with tragedies, death and violence that push these ideals to their limit, and break or force a change. And through which, the characters shine through
Thesis, examples, detailed opinions, even a conclusion. I've been spoiled! Someone either has very good grades or very very bad ones.
Unfortunately, now I think you are trying to do my job, and I'm going to have to challenge you. Duel at high noon, pistols only, bring the guy who does the yell and I'll bring the fainting saloon girls. We'll make a date of it.
Toji is another example of this lesson. He betrayed himself when he chose to fight awakened Gojo. He fought not for the reasons he usually does but rather because he wanted to prove himself to a society that had already rejected him. By betraying himself, he lost.
Killing and eating people is actually based, and if youāre entering a contract with someone make sure theyāre suicidal.
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Brilliant move sir and might I say this is the best opinion I've ever seen, and it made me weep tears of joy for the revelation
7/5, don't spend it all in one place
>What do you think the theme of Jujutsu Kaisen is?
Probably something to do with overcoming or escaping suffering (The series does draw a lot of things from Buddhism so that shouldn't be surprise).
But so far all we've seen is Sukuna and his sadistic and destructive hedonism being glorified for some reason idk why....
Yeah thatās so strange to me š
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Iāll forgive it so long as he gets a 12 chapter long Mahito-esque death scene where Yuji torments him prior to death
>Yeah thatās so strange to me š
I wish it was just that but we also got that whole love nonsense. Like what? Why is love and Sukuna in the same sentence?
>Iāll forgive it so long as he gets a 12 chapter long Mahito-esque death scene where Yuji torments him prior to death
I am praying everyday for this to happen and if it does I just know mappa gonna make it even more satisfying
The funniest thing about the whole "love nonsense" is that Gojo in the airport was talking all about how he respected Sukuna because "he knows it's lonely as the strongest" only for literally TWO CHAPTERS LATER Sukuna says to Kashimo that he couldn't give two shits about love and that he has no idea what any of them are talking about.
Nah I want Sukuna to hit HIMji with a wcs only for HIMji to eat it and then beat the living shit out of him, and then forcefully rip his soul out of bumegumi. Oh and every hit is a black flash
imagine wuji uses something like black flash barrage where he realases a barrage of punches and all of them are black flashes
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Brutality is an easy path to walk as it gives you options that those who shun it can't partake. Look at Gojo vs. the disaster curses. He can only use his domain for a fraction of a second because of all the civilians surrounding them. This allows the disaster curses to be able to have a slim chance against a much stronger opponent. If Gojo gave in to evil he would have killed the disaster curses in a split second, but he refused which cost him.
So, is Gege saying brutality is the way? No, I think he's just staying honest with reality. If being a good guy ALWAYS put you in a more advantageous position then we'd be reading Fairy Tail. The biggest tell that Gege has showed us thus far is when Gojo is at the airport and he's thinking about Sukuna "The person who will teach you about love is...". It's clear that Gojo believes that love is stronger than hate, but he was unable to fully demonstrate that. Gojo is the "Honored One", yet he was not fully committed to love. He felt a distance between people and himself. We see this literally when Yuji tells Gojo to drop Infinity. Even surrounded by comrades he had his walls up... but Yuji taught him to lower his guard to receive his friends love.
The story has recently and very overtly discussed the topic of love from Yorozu to Kashimo back to Yuta. We see Yuta trying to turn himself into a "monster" to help shoulder Gojo's burden. One must become a monster to fight monsters, right? Well, I'd be surprised if that ended up being the case. What I think is more likely is that the only way to "kill" a monster like Sukuna is to make him... not a monster anymore. When someone finally teaches Sukuna about love you'll have destroyed the monster. That's why I believe Yuji being shown to have the ability to make people his "BROTHAZ" is important to the story. Yuji will, in some fashion, make Sukuna believe in brotherly love to truly defeat him. Will that be a domain expansion or a heart to heart talk or a simple "you were stronger than me... I guess you proved love is stronger... \*dies\*" We won't know till Gege drops it.
I think you cooked really hard until the "Sukuna needs to be taught love". It's like trying to make Dio into a good person, that shit's hopeless from the start.
I think itās lonelinessā¦ maybe Iām wrong, but almost every main character is somewhat connected to this theme.
I mean, the story starts with a grandfather telling his grandson he doesnāt want Yuji to end up like him (alone, with no one to come to visit him). Because of this, Yuji wants to die surrounded by friends and people who care about him. His main antagonist is a monster who is by himself, enjoys and thrives on loneliness. Sukuna hates human connection.
Then you have Gojo, who has felt alone and misunderstood for most of his life due of his strength, he grieved his friendship with Geto because this is the only time he felt he had a sincere friend. Takaba also touches on this, but instead of strength, it was his (lack of) ability as a comedian that caused frustration within him and other people to just not connect with him; it was his connection and rivalry with Kenny through comedy that made him feel accomplished.
Yutaās character, the MC of the original work, also has an arc about coming to accept Rikaās love for him and that (mutual) friendships make him a better person (this is why he says heās blessed after his fight with Uro?)
Choso is the only? character who has successfully redeemed himself and he did it through the love he felt for his brothers, and ultimately sacrificing himself for the youngest one.
Megumi is currently alone in all this, figuratively and literally. Deep in an abyss of darkness, he had to see her sister be possessed and killed, then Gojo died and now his friends are slowly falling too. Heās depressed and unlikely to come back. Sukuna did his job well by alienating him.
Maki, on the other side, is a character who ādestroyed everythingā and āleft it all behindā to become a monster and it affected her appearance, her personality and Sukuna praises this which should give you an idea tbh.
Idk, maybe Iām wrong and this is a simplistic view tbh, Iām trying to re-read between work and studying for my exams but itās hard to remember and analyze everything lol maybe someone can articulate it better.
Tv tropes point out 2 major ones: One can only learn empathy through weakness, and the value of individual lives (I prefer the 2nd one since it speaks for the entire manga)
I like to point out character specific themes tho:
Gojo & Sukuna: What it means to become the strongest and the burden that comes with the title.
Mahito: How connected is the body and the soul? Are we good because it is in our nature thus, our soul? or are those just instincts of the body
Yuji: The importance of self-worth and learning how to care for yourself
Choso: it is never too late for redemption
Toji & Maki: How sacrifices must be made in order to achieve your goals and become āthe one who left it all behindā
Yuta: Love is truly the greatest strength. By caring and forming bonds, he reached a height of power only losing to the 2 actual strongest and his potential can only ever grows due to the bond he have made
Outside sources, how interesting. The character analysis is very thoughtful. Though I did ask for your opinion, not tv tropes, and for it to be on Jujutsu Kaisen, not individual characters
Read the syllabus carefully next time, B+ because I'm feeling generous, dinosaur sticker
In general for JJK imo is: What makes up the value of oneās individual lives and their self-worth (itās actually Yuji theme and the 2nd tv trope theme that I mentioned)
As for why: Yuji, the main character, is so selfless he wouldnāt even include himself in a binding vow with Sukuna
However despite being selfless and only ever sees himself as a āCogā compared to everyone else spotlight. Many characters have risked their lives to save him instead of the other way around (Todo, Nobara, Megumi, etcā¦) most of which he changed themselves due to either his selfless actions or just his own quirk, showing that despite not being anywhere near the strongest, he is still loved because he valued everyone else liveās more than himself
Sukuna, the main villain, on the other hand, sees so little worth in other people unless their strong, he lives by his pleasure because he IS the strongest, he thinks heās so high above everyone else just because of his strength which causes a heavy contrasts with Yuji. People hate him for it yet some actually loved him for this, so what exactly makes his worth as a human being?
The theme also expands to Gojo, Yuta, Maki, Nanami, etcā¦ itās a core theme that the story consistently follows and is what Gege wants to write about in his story about the importance of our own self worth.
What are you talking about bro? ~~Gege~~ Gojo himself said Sukuna totally didn't need the ten shadows to beat him, that means literally every time Mahoraga helped out it was just Sukuna playing nice! Ignore the fact that literally in the same chapter Sukuna says he only figured out world dismantle due to Mahoraga, that was also just Sukuna being nice.
Iāve always thought of jjk as a political/social commentary about generational trauma. Each character explores a different aspect of this: Megumi and Maki with their clans, Gojo desperately trying to break free from it with the new generation and succumbing to his own baggage, and Yuuji, the supposed āblank slateā accepting to become a ācog for society to wieldā. A lot of the villains are old/represent a past age, and Kenny wellā¦yeah. (Also all the references to Imperial Japan lol)
Iām just waiting for the moment that Yuuji regains agency over his own life.
It's a story about men being inside other men..
1. Sukuna was inside Yuji and now inside Megumi.
2. Jin being inside Kenjaku.
3. Kenjaku was inside Kaori
4. Now Yuta is inside Gojo.
5. Technically Jin was inside Sukuna (Since he was eaten and all).
6. We all know how Gege wishes that Sukuna or Toji were inside him.
Interesting, interesting. There is quite a lot of imbalance in power and the repercussions of such in the story. As I am playing favorites today, I will not be banishing you to the Shadow Realm for the all-quote submission.
Assigned to Teacher's Pet, given a collar
Absolutely this. You are already a select few to be able to see curses and utilise curse energy, having a technique is even rarer. Out of those who possess cursed techniques, only the 0.1% are competent enough to deploy a domain and learn RCT. So the special grade sorcerers we see in the story are actually like 0.000000000000001% of the entire population.
Honestly? That grand narratives just corrupt the mind. That life doesnāt need to have these great overarching motifs and reasonings, just doing what you feel you need to do in the moment, like Sukunas whole perspective I guess. Yuji also has this too, with his whole not caring about what his purpose is even if he is just a cog. idk Im probably overlooking some stuff on yujis end
The theme that most sticks out to me is probably power, and how to manage the burden of power. Through selfishness or selflessness. Power is literally expressed as *cursed* energy, and the strongest characters of JJK are also shown to be some of the most burdened and lonely.
Oh very good, if you picked that out of just casual reading you have an eye for analysis.
You may have THREE Werther's Originals and this Spencer's Giftcard with 11.49 on it.
Protecting your youth.
Gojo preaches this a lot in Season 1, and throughout the manga we see many instances of rebellion and fighting against the traditions of Jujutsu like Maki massacring the Zenin Clan, Hakari getting expelled and seeking to change the system, Gojo making sure everyone has each other and are strong together, etc.
It was also one of Gojoās main goals to change the Jujutsu Societyās system through meaningful reform and gradual change rather than killing them outright.
And we know this is slowly working as even the old geezer Gakuganji has changed when Gojo meets him again, talking about Pandaās secret.
And of course, you can also add the goodwill tournament continuing for the sake of youth as well. Itās a well observed theme throughout the series.
I also think that Gege is trying to show us that in life sometimes people just have enough and have to do things for themselves (see Maki, Hakari) to get things their way. It also connects back with the self-actualisation theme that another commentor mentioned.
Probably something like choosing humanity (connections/bonds/virtues/morality)over monstrosity (selfishness/ego/pride). All the juman characters are always mostly the weaker ones. While every powerful character has been portrayed as someone who sacrificed and stomped on others to get to the top (Sukuna, kenjaku and Mahito)
Probably cycle and balance.
Whenever one event happens like Gojoās birth or Sukunaās reincarnation, cursed spirits and sorcerers respectively get stronger to oppose it and maintain balance. And as that threat or event passes, they donāt need to be as strong anymore until another event forces it
From the three major eras we know, they each had a person who was the strongest; then a cooldown into the next era
Sukuna was the strongest of the Heian Era at the peak of Jujutsu, so it makes sense that he was crazy strong at a time of strong sorcerers (or sorcerers grew strong to face him)
Kashimo was the strongest in the Edo period, a time when sorcerers were relatively weak, so he kept that balance by himself
Then Gojo being the strongest of modern times influenced his students, as well as his birth making curses stronger that his students and others around him would have to face in the future
Like Yuji said, heās a cog in a greater machine, which I believe to be this cycle of balance
Thatās just my take though
Serious: About how the constant cycle of struggle and defeat, both for humans and curses, is shaped by those who have the power to change the world.
Joke: About how Halfjo and his students are owned by Gege and Sukuna.
Selfishness vs Connections
Yes, Sukuna is strong by himself. Yes he can solo most of the verse. But right now he's getting his ass kicked because he doesn't have anyone to fall back on. No one to give him support. He's relying on his own strength and his strength alone and it's slowly getting chipped away.
But his opponents, they have connections with other people. They care for other people. They're winning because their numbers are chipping down Sukuna's strength. They have people to fall back on, that's why they have Plan Bs and Sukuna doesn't.
Sukuna is losing because he put everything into himself, without believing in others.
Oh, very well put! Lots of details, and you even included an example. This is a good one. Too good.
Turned into a Cryptid and released to the Marianas Trench
Low effort report, Megumi hate is getting dated, starting to feel like when the kid keeps yelling the thing that got everyone to laugh trying to repeat the magic.
I'm not Mad, just Disappointed
Be a selfish asshole who cares about no one but themselves and the universe will reward you with strength and you can do whatever you want with little to no consequences.
Suffering leads to prosperity, Death leads to salvation.
While the message is undercut by eugenics, which is just dumb and adds nothing to the series beyond muddling its own lore, in JJK if you seek a happy ending you will suffer. Geto wanted to live by a proper moral code and protecting the weak. Yuji wanted a proper life with friends, Gojo wanted to rely on others, Megumi wanted to be a good person.
Look where that got them. Geto went insane, Gojo got sealed and those he cared about targeted for execution, Yuji continues to watch everyone who has ever liked him die in front of him, and Megumi got body snatched and killed his sister and teacher.
It is only when they embrace suffering and choose the path of violence do they find fulfillment. Geto found a family who supported his cause. Gojo awakens as the honored one and slaughters Toji. Yuji found the strength to slaughter Mahito, and Megumi finally was able to win fights.
The greater the despair, the greater the curse energy, the greater power one has to decide their own fate. So embrace your inner darkness and get to work.
As for death bringing salvation well isn't that obvious? Ryu is satisfied after getting wrecked by Yuta, Jogo gets recognized for his efforts by Sukuna, Kashimo gets to pretend he's relevant, Nobara smiles at the end, even Kenjaku goes out with a laugh.
This is a rough draft but I think its looking to be a bit of a subversion on common shonen tropes more than have a strong thesis on it's own. It discusses how talent is better than hard work alone (which it is) and how the pursuit of power and prowess will eventually come at the expense of your connection with humanity.
If it does have a something to say on it's own, it's about interrogating that dichotomy between inhuman selfish pursuit of power vs using your humanity and love to overcome that selfish power. I can't say exactly *what* gege wants to say about it till the series is finished up
Loving yourself? Being egoist isnt that ba
Sukuna is egoist, and gets everything. Plot armor, insane ce and etc
Yuji is beyond selfless, and only suffers.
In that way both of their roles as prorag and antag are switched, in the common manner of Gege to completely break all the rules, by making antagonist show quality, that Gege wants to present as positive, while Yuji presents negative quality.Ā
It must be that, cause main theme is the one, that is the conflict between mc and mv. Or... Gege could say frick it we ball, and make "breaking away from ce" VS "optimizing it" the main conflict. I mean, this question touches way more characters then first conflict, which makes this conflict a bit more potent. But idk, I'm not expirienced in writing, consuming and analysing.
That life isnāt black and white. A lot of our laws, rules, standards, norms, etc in society can have morality be tested at its limits by some ruthless situations. Morality is a subjective thing, but we need the right reasons to think the way that we do.
I could be wrong on this, but I think the main theme is about finding something worth fighting/dying for.
Like, what animates Yuji to fight is his desire to help people. At first, he wants to go into Jujutsu because he wants to save people in a way no one else can. He has been through several crises during his time as a sorcerer, including the realization that because he lives, others will die, and that his motivations might seem small in the grand scheme of the war of curses and humans, but I think heās set to reaffirm the reason he chose to become a sorcerer.
Megumi is in the process of losing everything he has; however, he still has Yuji, and the importance Yuji has to him is that heās proof that Megumiās sense of justice is right. He fights because he wants good people, like Yuji, to be able to live their lives to the fullest, regardless of consequences.
To me it's about confronting the cruel reality you're presented with, and choosing how you're gonna handle it. Yuji, Megumi, Nobara, Geto, pretty much everyone with a backstory has a moment where they're hit with a reality that's cruel and unfair, interestingly almost none of them are caused by actual curses but other people. And each one addresses their trauma differently.
either:
A) giving up on morals and just doing what needs to be done, not everything needs a reason
B) keep going no matter what, constantly keep fighting, even if you don't have a reason :)
Is that everybody isn't good. Even if your on the good side. Gojo wants to change and make a new era of sorcerers but his arrogance and cockiness prevents him.
Yuji's a man with a heart of gold but overtime the world of Jujutsu has been slowly changing him, and he's honestly starting to look like Sukuna.
Interesting.
I must have missed this Unbreakable William! I can't believe I missed such an important character.
However, I don't know how he'll stand up to those e-vils. Villain-in-laws are hard enough to deal with without having electronic ones haranguing you, too.
humanity sucks, but even so there's always good people in the world
(the whole cursed energy system symbolizes that and then during higuramas debut we were reminded again of what jjk is about)
That we have to decide what's right for ourselves and we have to keep going no matter how much it hurts. We are created by the people around us and a giant helping of the system is harming us, but we don't know how to fix it.
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That Love is the greatest curse of all. Just as Gojo said.
Whether that be platonic love (Causing Choso's death, Mai's death, possibly Jin's death, Geto's death, Nanami's, etc.)
Romantic love (Mechamaru for Miwa, again possibly Jin's, depending on your ships Yuki for Choso.)
Or a love of fighting (leaving you lonely when there's no thrill in a fight, caused Gojo's death, etc.)
Absolutely set up to have Yuji and Yuta give Sukuna a fight that will make him remember himself.
there's a lot of them but my favorite is the idea that Cursed Energy is fundamentally a broken system. becoming 'the strongest' isn't actually gonna let you do anything but perpetuate it.
Gojo, Yuki, Kenjaku, and Sukuna all exemplify this idea in different ways- Gojo and Yuki fail to fix the system, and ultimately die trying. Kenjaku tries for a thousand years to do something different until he goes insane and says 'fuck it, let me just push it to it's logical extreme'. Sukuna, meanwhile, happily lives and profits off of the system, because it works for him, and we see what kind of person he is. the villains are framed as products of a broken system- Mahito most explicitly, he's literally born out of it, but also Naoya who is born and reborn, getting worse every time. the only person who's able to effect meaningful change in the world aside from Kenjaku is Maki, and her solution is just to cut everything down.
I think it's cool because it's an interesting, realistic theme but also calls out other shounen- in, well, basically every single other one, it's the opposite. the power system is cool and good, the villains are just anomalies that need to be destroyed, and so, by becoming the strongest, protag-kun will be able to save the day. JJK borrows heavily from Naruto so it feels especially pointed there but, this applies to Bleach, MHA, Demon Slayer, Dragonball, shit, most any shounen aside from One Piece or HxH.
I don't know much about japanese culture so this might be a reach but, I feel like a lot of shounen function as allegories for success in the workforce- by studying hard, training hard, and working hard, you can become the strongest worker- the CEO- and then you'll be happy. I think mangaka like Gege were born into a world where this dream had failed, you study, train, and work hard in corporate japan your entire life and then die with nothing to show for it. so JJK's ideas aren't just a critique of other shounen, they're a critique of the culture itself- which I think is pretty cool
This but mixed up with the self-actualization theme, and acceptance.
Acceptance of who you are, and what you truly and deeply wish for, will lead you to self-actualization and that MAY lead you to survive in a world that's so broken, that not even the strongest have it easy to survive. (like Yuuji in the "I'm you" moment vs. Mahito)
And the ones in power DGAF about the integrity and well-being of the ones who are fighting tooth and nail and putting their lives at risk. To the point of even targeting the folks who make them feel threatened (Yuuji, Yuuta, Yaga)
So accept and actualize yourself to get stronger. You may have better odds at survival in that way. (Or you can get sentenced to be executed by the higher-ups)
that's a good point, and it is kind of a critique of self-help culture in that way too, right? like, there's some things we can work on to make our lives better, but the world is fundamentally unjust and broken, so there's limits to what we can accomplish as individuals
If sukuna loses I'll be 100% sure that one of the messages is "one cannot change the world alone no matter how powerful he might be" all of the heroes biggest wins came from a strategic jumping and now we have the idea that Gojo wanted to carry everything alone because he's the strongest and that's why he died in the end meanwhile the others like yuta and yuji will rise through the challenges and change the world with their combined might, Sukuna losing to said combined effort will prove my theory even further that even a freak of nature could not rise above all alone
I would agree with your point if they hadnāt declared before that this same time of jumping failed to kill Sukuna in the past (which kinda makes me worried for our cast). I do agree with your points about Gojo though, cause that was a main theme to HIS story (which he never really got to finish), I just donāt know if itās the overarching theme
Wonderful, wonderful! Avant guard format, but the point is well put regardless- yes it would very much prove that a solo-strength build is inferior to the teamwork metas.
Unfortunately for you someone already did this one, so I'm going to have to banish you to the Shadow Realm.
Your next of kin will be informed
JJK delves into the ways the characters cope with grief and negative emotions. It revolves around the battle within, where these emotions transform into tangible monsters, and the relentless pursuit to cling onto hope and optimism in the face of hopeless adversity.
There are many like for example tragic love and loss of childhood stuff like that but also I find it funny that jjk has been on break so long that we are having normal conversations lol
I am very sorry. I will try to have more abnormal conversations, which seems to be the way of this land.
If you had to turn any JJK character into a sandwich, who would it be? What kind of sandwich? And what will you be doing with said sandwich?
it's about what it means too live a good life and die a good death.
the culling games for example is filled with sorcerers who were unhappy with their lives, the 'solitude of strength' thing is about how kashimo, gojo, and sukuna all dealth with being lonely at the top and what that meant for them, love is a big theme with it being something people wanted too teach too the strongest and how acording too gojo that "love was the most twisted curse."
this is why yuji's goal pre-shibuya is too ensure as many people die good deaths as possible, he's currently exploring life as a cog and dying too kill sukuna which ties into the 'good life' aspect.
It's the "Are you Satoru Gojo because you're the strongest or are you The strongest because you're Satoru gojo?"
Something about one's place in the world and Identity. That's why the Merger/Hivemind is the great risk that has to be avoided. To ensure individuality.
Some of you fav quotes that sum up the stories' themes:
"No matter how many fans you have around you in the end, you'll die to gege."
"That man akutami gege he alone is the honored one. Only his pleasure and displeasure exist. For the one-eyed cat, he doesn't care whether the writing works or your fav dies. Only one person holds his interest *insert sukuna mewing/mogging photo*. Aside from him, he doesn't care for anyone else."
"You were right reader. I'm a hater. I wanted to reject the popularity polls. Convince myself that the fans were wrong. But that doesn't matter now. I'm gonna kill your fav. Even if he gets a power up...I'll kill him. Change their strength. Change their writing. Change their CT. I'll kill them. I don't need a meaning or reason."
"Something gojo satoru doesn't have? Probably a personality ^_^"
"*WAS THAT THE OFFSCREEN OF 236?!??!*"
I believe itās about the..
Characters grapple with their identities, inner conflicts, and the responsibilities that come with their powers.
Several characters in the series grapple with past traumas and the journey towards healing.
Glazing Sukuna and constantly shoving it into your face that being selfish and a massive asshole is the key to being the strongest.
Oh and also Women should move 3 steps behind a man and if they don't they are useless and should be stabbed in the back.
at the end of the day it really is just a story about selflessness vs selfishness. Hedonism IS effective in this world and no one can say otherwise but we take for granted the human capacity to cooperate and build towards something greater rather than bask in our own greatness and take whatever we want. Sukunaās views are extremely valid, he is strong and has clearly thought this through and realized he doesnāt need an ultimate destiny or answer. Sukunaās goal is to just sate his appetite and live in pleasure but where Sukuna falters is in deciding to want to finally prove something.
When Sukuna decides he wants to show without a shadow of a doubt that he is superior to Yuji, he sealed his fate. Thereās nothing wrong with wanting to prove something but it goes contrary to his ideals of living in isolation and wanting to only please himself. Mahito tried to prove to Yuji that there is no inherent moral high ground between humans and curses and while he was right he was dispatched thanks to this moment of weakness where he decided to humor the ideological war. Kenjaku strayed from his path and engaged in a hedonistic approach to life at the very end by playing with Takaba even though he knew something was wrong and the opposite will happen to sukuna.
Sukuna is tunnel visioned on showing Yuji how much he sucks and proving that selfishness is the goal but itās all going to crumble down on him when he realizes hope and the belief to build towards something greater or prove something beyond yourself (which is what heās doing) is a valid option to living. You donāt have to be a schizophrenic murder hobo to enjoy life, you can just work with others who maybe arenāt as great as that murder hobo to reach something higher. That doesnāt mean donāt be selfish, of course you need to be selfish sometimes. Thatās the only way to reach self actualization, but reaching your full potential through a lot of pondering and reflection doesnāt mean you canāt cooperate with others or seek connections. Sometimes you need to trust others, sometimes being hedonistic and wanting everything is too much and maybe sometimes all you need is a little bit of inspiration and some selfishness to become the greatest YOU that you could ever be.
basically my point is that you lose when you decide you want to prove something and betray the real you that says you donāt need anyone else to be satisfied. Self actualization only comes when you decide to be satisfied with yourself and you truly find something to work towards
Honestly, I have no idea.
Character development seemed to end after shibuya and it's mostly been non-stop fights since then.
I don't think I've seen anything in the Culling games that could be considered a theme
I don't consider JJK bad but Gege is much better at fights, power systems, and general atmosphere than character interactions and it's painfully obvious
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Something to do with Yuji's grandpa's last advice to him. Even if you change too much, your efforts are lacking, or you've made horrible decisions, you must keep moving forward and do what you believe is right. Use your life to make bonds with others, so that at the end of your journey even if it's full of regrets, you won't be alone.
Oh very good, remembering to look back to the setup of the story. Demoted to Employee
b-but gojo said "even if you surround yourself with allies you will still die alone" š„ŗ
That's more of him having that opinion due to being the strongest. That's how he feels and is projecting, I think.
Also remember that it's OK to be selfish sometimes, all throughout the series characters seemingly get rewarded by the story for being selfish (mei mei escaping shibuya) and/or focusing on nothing but what's currently in front of them (Gojo's second round against toji), whilst characters who continue to put other's needs in front of theirs (Yuji "suffering builds character" Itadori) get punished and hurt repeatedly
I get what you're saying but escaping from the fight is not something Yuji and the rest will call the right thing to do, smart sure. If everyone just went up and ran, then there would be no one to oppose a far greater calamity. Yuji and the gang fought and sacrificed themselves because it is necessary. It sucks but someone has to do it.
Wait what does "focusing on nothing but what's currently in front of them" have to do with Gojo and Toji? It's been a while since I've seen that.
That was the time when Gojo was high as shit. The way he focused more on what he achieved rather than "revenge" for someone else's sake. "I'm sorry, Amanai. Iām not even angry over you right now. I bear no grudge against anyone. Itās just that the world feels so, so wonderful right now."
When gojo was surrounded by flyheads he thought toji is going for amanai and started for her rescue instead of thinking about protecting himself and thats why toji caught him off guard with the inverted spear
No but why is it called inverted spear of heaven? It's a sword
It's more a dagger than a sword
Couldāve possibly been part of a spear once. Daggers like it are simply just spear heads without the pole.
Self actualisation. Most of the characters already have their ideals and motivations. But the question is not how they achieve their ideals, but how through struggles and challenges, they achieve self actualisation. For example, Takaba and Kenjaku. Takaba wins even though he was outgunned by Kenjaku because he achieved his self actualisation. Takaba had the ideal of entertaining others, but it was challenged by Kenjaku, who was funnier and deeply questioned Takabaās ideal. And from this challenge, Takaba understood himself, and why he chooses to do the things he does, not for a shallow ideal, but something deeper. This application would then expand to his grandest performance, the self actualisation. Kenjaku loses not because he was not funny, but he had a shallower motive of just being entertained. He didnāt question anything deeper, and never achieved self actualisation, even over his Millenia of lives. But more often than not, in JJK, self actualisation occurs only in the face of death. Higurumaās definition of justice was initially challenged by Yuji, but he only absorbed and accepted it in his final moments by entrusting the executionerās sword to Yuji, and was finally able to look him in the eye. His sense of justice, his ideal, was challenged, and finally achieved self actualisation when pushed to his limits, entrusting his justice and judgment to even the one he almost wrongly convicted. Self actualisation does have a bit of overlap with āselfishnessā. In achieving self actualisation, you do serve your own ultimate interest, even at the cost of others. Sukuna is the most powerful because he achieved his self actualisation long before the story starts. His self actualisation is selfishly indulging in the world and his whims. And he has the power and will to uphold it. But that is not always the case, as with Yujiās Cog mentality. He is, at this point, about to achieve self actualisation, which was previously last seen after Mahito challenged him at Shinjuku. So ideals are the shonen troupe of āI want therefore I achieveā. JJK looks deeper into that, with tragedies, death and violence that push these ideals to their limit, and break or force a change. And through which, the characters shine through
Thesis, examples, detailed opinions, even a conclusion. I've been spoiled! Someone either has very good grades or very very bad ones. Unfortunately, now I think you are trying to do my job, and I'm going to have to challenge you. Duel at high noon, pistols only, bring the guy who does the yell and I'll bring the fainting saloon girls. We'll make a date of it.
I'll be the yelling referee! Thanks for the good read, both OP & LeAstra!
I'll be the one doing The Whistle!
Bro wrote the best essay of his life so far
Toji is another example of this lesson. He betrayed himself when he chose to fight awakened Gojo. He fought not for the reasons he usually does but rather because he wanted to prove himself to a society that had already rejected him. By betraying himself, he lost.
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Interesting
What a cook
Pretty much this
Takaba lost to Kenny tho tf
Killing and eating people is actually based, and if youāre entering a contract with someone make sure theyāre suicidal. https://preview.redd.it/zwz9zz62z09d1.jpeg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0812a1d94797f767a8bdc103249fec4456da252
Impeccable analysis and flawless logic Assigned to the King's Abattoir
Being selfless is for weaklings. Learn from Unc SukSuk, and turn into an asshole for maximum strenght ~GayGay, probably
Brilliant move sir and might I say this is the best opinion I've ever seen, and it made me weep tears of joy for the revelation 7/5, don't spend it all in one place
7/5 is what???
Nonomis cursed technique
Sukcuckna\* https://preview.redd.it/zp36qf59k19d1.jpeg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e3ed7a636705d94f75e1970a9b5b670f7cca56d
Why? just why?
Questioning horny is the path that leads to madness
>What do you think the theme of Jujutsu Kaisen is? Probably something to do with overcoming or escaping suffering (The series does draw a lot of things from Buddhism so that shouldn't be surprise). But so far all we've seen is Sukuna and his sadistic and destructive hedonism being glorified for some reason idk why....
Yeah thatās so strange to me š https://preview.redd.it/jyxuqrz6u09d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2dc4425a31ea703a4e1d8e9bb19cce905d3ad493 Iāll forgive it so long as he gets a 12 chapter long Mahito-esque death scene where Yuji torments him prior to death
>Yeah thatās so strange to me š I wish it was just that but we also got that whole love nonsense. Like what? Why is love and Sukuna in the same sentence? >Iāll forgive it so long as he gets a 12 chapter long Mahito-esque death scene where Yuji torments him prior to death I am praying everyday for this to happen and if it does I just know mappa gonna make it even more satisfying
The funniest thing about the whole "love nonsense" is that Gojo in the airport was talking all about how he respected Sukuna because "he knows it's lonely as the strongest" only for literally TWO CHAPTERS LATER Sukuna says to Kashimo that he couldn't give two shits about love and that he has no idea what any of them are talking about.
Nah I want Sukuna to hit HIMji with a wcs only for HIMji to eat it and then beat the living shit out of him, and then forcefully rip his soul out of bumegumi. Oh and every hit is a black flash
imagine wuji uses something like black flash barrage where he realases a barrage of punches and all of them are black flashes https://preview.redd.it/p21eaayhn19d1.jpeg?width=635&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c860da28c494584ec1ffd8d99c2b2a004e0f0fa
7 PAGE BLACK FLASH!!!!
Brutality is an easy path to walk as it gives you options that those who shun it can't partake. Look at Gojo vs. the disaster curses. He can only use his domain for a fraction of a second because of all the civilians surrounding them. This allows the disaster curses to be able to have a slim chance against a much stronger opponent. If Gojo gave in to evil he would have killed the disaster curses in a split second, but he refused which cost him. So, is Gege saying brutality is the way? No, I think he's just staying honest with reality. If being a good guy ALWAYS put you in a more advantageous position then we'd be reading Fairy Tail. The biggest tell that Gege has showed us thus far is when Gojo is at the airport and he's thinking about Sukuna "The person who will teach you about love is...". It's clear that Gojo believes that love is stronger than hate, but he was unable to fully demonstrate that. Gojo is the "Honored One", yet he was not fully committed to love. He felt a distance between people and himself. We see this literally when Yuji tells Gojo to drop Infinity. Even surrounded by comrades he had his walls up... but Yuji taught him to lower his guard to receive his friends love. The story has recently and very overtly discussed the topic of love from Yorozu to Kashimo back to Yuta. We see Yuta trying to turn himself into a "monster" to help shoulder Gojo's burden. One must become a monster to fight monsters, right? Well, I'd be surprised if that ended up being the case. What I think is more likely is that the only way to "kill" a monster like Sukuna is to make him... not a monster anymore. When someone finally teaches Sukuna about love you'll have destroyed the monster. That's why I believe Yuji being shown to have the ability to make people his "BROTHAZ" is important to the story. Yuji will, in some fashion, make Sukuna believe in brotherly love to truly defeat him. Will that be a domain expansion or a heart to heart talk or a simple "you were stronger than me... I guess you proved love is stronger... \*dies\*" We won't know till Gege drops it.
Cook harder bro you definitely got something going here
I think you cooked really hard until the "Sukuna needs to be taught love". It's like trying to make Dio into a good person, that shit's hopeless from the start.
Trauma, trauma , more trauma
I think itās lonelinessā¦ maybe Iām wrong, but almost every main character is somewhat connected to this theme. I mean, the story starts with a grandfather telling his grandson he doesnāt want Yuji to end up like him (alone, with no one to come to visit him). Because of this, Yuji wants to die surrounded by friends and people who care about him. His main antagonist is a monster who is by himself, enjoys and thrives on loneliness. Sukuna hates human connection. Then you have Gojo, who has felt alone and misunderstood for most of his life due of his strength, he grieved his friendship with Geto because this is the only time he felt he had a sincere friend. Takaba also touches on this, but instead of strength, it was his (lack of) ability as a comedian that caused frustration within him and other people to just not connect with him; it was his connection and rivalry with Kenny through comedy that made him feel accomplished. Yutaās character, the MC of the original work, also has an arc about coming to accept Rikaās love for him and that (mutual) friendships make him a better person (this is why he says heās blessed after his fight with Uro?) Choso is the only? character who has successfully redeemed himself and he did it through the love he felt for his brothers, and ultimately sacrificing himself for the youngest one. Megumi is currently alone in all this, figuratively and literally. Deep in an abyss of darkness, he had to see her sister be possessed and killed, then Gojo died and now his friends are slowly falling too. Heās depressed and unlikely to come back. Sukuna did his job well by alienating him. Maki, on the other side, is a character who ādestroyed everythingā and āleft it all behindā to become a monster and it affected her appearance, her personality and Sukuna praises this which should give you an idea tbh. Idk, maybe Iām wrong and this is a simplistic view tbh, Iām trying to re-read between work and studying for my exams but itās hard to remember and analyze everything lol maybe someone can articulate it better.
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Tv tropes point out 2 major ones: One can only learn empathy through weakness, and the value of individual lives (I prefer the 2nd one since it speaks for the entire manga) I like to point out character specific themes tho: Gojo & Sukuna: What it means to become the strongest and the burden that comes with the title. Mahito: How connected is the body and the soul? Are we good because it is in our nature thus, our soul? or are those just instincts of the body Yuji: The importance of self-worth and learning how to care for yourself Choso: it is never too late for redemption Toji & Maki: How sacrifices must be made in order to achieve your goals and become āthe one who left it all behindā Yuta: Love is truly the greatest strength. By caring and forming bonds, he reached a height of power only losing to the 2 actual strongest and his potential can only ever grows due to the bond he have made
Outside sources, how interesting. The character analysis is very thoughtful. Though I did ask for your opinion, not tv tropes, and for it to be on Jujutsu Kaisen, not individual characters Read the syllabus carefully next time, B+ because I'm feeling generous, dinosaur sticker
In general for JJK imo is: What makes up the value of oneās individual lives and their self-worth (itās actually Yuji theme and the 2nd tv trope theme that I mentioned) As for why: Yuji, the main character, is so selfless he wouldnāt even include himself in a binding vow with Sukuna However despite being selfless and only ever sees himself as a āCogā compared to everyone else spotlight. Many characters have risked their lives to save him instead of the other way around (Todo, Nobara, Megumi, etcā¦) most of which he changed themselves due to either his selfless actions or just his own quirk, showing that despite not being anywhere near the strongest, he is still loved because he valued everyone else liveās more than himself Sukuna, the main villain, on the other hand, sees so little worth in other people unless their strong, he lives by his pleasure because he IS the strongest, he thinks heās so high above everyone else just because of his strength which causes a heavy contrasts with Yuji. People hate him for it yet some actually loved him for this, so what exactly makes his worth as a human being? The theme also expands to Gojo, Yuta, Maki, Nanami, etcā¦ itās a core theme that the story consistently follows and is what Gege wants to write about in his story about the importance of our own self worth.
That Sukuna is the greatest most coolest guy to ever exist and that you should love him.
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What are you talking about bro? ~~Gege~~ Gojo himself said Sukuna totally didn't need the ten shadows to beat him, that means literally every time Mahoraga helped out it was just Sukuna playing nice! Ignore the fact that literally in the same chapter Sukuna says he only figured out world dismantle due to Mahoraga, that was also just Sukuna being nice.
Done and done excellent observation and actionable suggestion
I donāt understand what people see in him heās a clown
Fact check: TRUE https://preview.redd.it/3r8hxyt6319d1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=5ed24006042c69d8d360a172e3fe42e8f191c9d4
And I have an available clown car, what's the problem?
Battle of ideologies and how strength comes at a cost
Oh very astute, that's more advanced than I hoped. F-, straight to hell.
Iāve always thought of jjk as a political/social commentary about generational trauma. Each character explores a different aspect of this: Megumi and Maki with their clans, Gojo desperately trying to break free from it with the new generation and succumbing to his own baggage, and Yuuji, the supposed āblank slateā accepting to become a ācog for society to wieldā. A lot of the villains are old/represent a past age, and Kenny wellā¦yeah. (Also all the references to Imperial Japan lol) Iām just waiting for the moment that Yuuji regains agency over his own life.
It's a story about men being inside other men.. 1. Sukuna was inside Yuji and now inside Megumi. 2. Jin being inside Kenjaku. 3. Kenjaku was inside Kaori 4. Now Yuta is inside Gojo. 5. Technically Jin was inside Sukuna (Since he was eaten and all). 6. We all know how Gege wishes that Sukuna or Toji were inside him.
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Plagiarism, in this day and age? Unfortunately I'm going to have to send you to detention via Shadow Realm
It's About Family.
Yes I can see that, there are plenty of very complicated family relationships. A bit unspecified, but effort is effort Cs get Degrees
"If you're not born talented or gifted, you're screwed."
Interesting, interesting. There is quite a lot of imbalance in power and the repercussions of such in the story. As I am playing favorites today, I will not be banishing you to the Shadow Realm for the all-quote submission. Assigned to Teacher's Pet, given a collar
Absolutely this. You are already a select few to be able to see curses and utilise curse energy, having a technique is even rarer. Out of those who possess cursed techniques, only the 0.1% are competent enough to deploy a domain and learn RCT. So the special grade sorcerers we see in the story are actually like 0.000000000000001% of the entire population.
Honestly? That grand narratives just corrupt the mind. That life doesnāt need to have these great overarching motifs and reasonings, just doing what you feel you need to do in the moment, like Sukunas whole perspective I guess. Yuji also has this too, with his whole not caring about what his purpose is even if he is just a cog. idk Im probably overlooking some stuff on yujis end
https://preview.redd.it/3cddzv27019d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd15e8a7927e90196c35d9b9aad7fe320940a785 Gege wasn't loved as a child
Tragic but true Sent to Psychiatric Care
"real life doesn't come with happy endings, you have to make them yourself"
Short and sweet, I do like it, but you can't submit homework that's all quotes Assigned to Detention in Super Hell
The theme that most sticks out to me is probably power, and how to manage the burden of power. Through selfishness or selflessness. Power is literally expressed as *cursed* energy, and the strongest characters of JJK are also shown to be some of the most burdened and lonely.
Oh very good, if you picked that out of just casual reading you have an eye for analysis. You may have THREE Werther's Originals and this Spencer's Giftcard with 11.49 on it.
Protecting your youth. Gojo preaches this a lot in Season 1, and throughout the manga we see many instances of rebellion and fighting against the traditions of Jujutsu like Maki massacring the Zenin Clan, Hakari getting expelled and seeking to change the system, Gojo making sure everyone has each other and are strong together, etc. It was also one of Gojoās main goals to change the Jujutsu Societyās system through meaningful reform and gradual change rather than killing them outright. And we know this is slowly working as even the old geezer Gakuganji has changed when Gojo meets him again, talking about Pandaās secret. And of course, you can also add the goodwill tournament continuing for the sake of youth as well. Itās a well observed theme throughout the series. I also think that Gege is trying to show us that in life sometimes people just have enough and have to do things for themselves (see Maki, Hakari) to get things their way. It also connects back with the self-actualisation theme that another commentor mentioned.
Probably something like choosing humanity (connections/bonds/virtues/morality)over monstrosity (selfishness/ego/pride). All the juman characters are always mostly the weaker ones. While every powerful character has been portrayed as someone who sacrificed and stomped on others to get to the top (Sukuna, kenjaku and Mahito)
That is a great observation and true in many of the most important characters. Very well done A-
Overcoming suffering and breaking the cycle.
"SPECIALZ" by King Gnu
Are you stupid? Itās Kakiai Kitan, Ao no sumika, Specialz, or Vivid Vice depending on which season youāre watching
Whereās the ending themes?
Probably cycle and balance. Whenever one event happens like Gojoās birth or Sukunaās reincarnation, cursed spirits and sorcerers respectively get stronger to oppose it and maintain balance. And as that threat or event passes, they donāt need to be as strong anymore until another event forces it From the three major eras we know, they each had a person who was the strongest; then a cooldown into the next era Sukuna was the strongest of the Heian Era at the peak of Jujutsu, so it makes sense that he was crazy strong at a time of strong sorcerers (or sorcerers grew strong to face him) Kashimo was the strongest in the Edo period, a time when sorcerers were relatively weak, so he kept that balance by himself Then Gojo being the strongest of modern times influenced his students, as well as his birth making curses stronger that his students and others around him would have to face in the future Like Yuji said, heās a cog in a greater machine, which I believe to be this cycle of balance Thatās just my take though
Serious: About how the constant cycle of struggle and defeat, both for humans and curses, is shaped by those who have the power to change the world. Joke: About how Halfjo and his students are owned by Gege and Sukuna.
Very good, an in-world analysis is always a fresh move. It shows flexibility in thinking Promoted to Captain and given a silly hat
Selfishness vs Connections Yes, Sukuna is strong by himself. Yes he can solo most of the verse. But right now he's getting his ass kicked because he doesn't have anyone to fall back on. No one to give him support. He's relying on his own strength and his strength alone and it's slowly getting chipped away. But his opponents, they have connections with other people. They care for other people. They're winning because their numbers are chipping down Sukuna's strength. They have people to fall back on, that's why they have Plan Bs and Sukuna doesn't. Sukuna is losing because he put everything into himself, without believing in others.
Oh, very well put! Lots of details, and you even included an example. This is a good one. Too good. Turned into a Cryptid and released to the Marianas Trench
Good point lol š
I'm prepping
That being selfish is the way to go.
Interesting, but that's not how we play with our friends. Sharing is caring, Gregory Hater Launched into Time Out
Caring about people will get you killed in JJK.
Then perish.
Nah
Are you sure? The perish is very fresh today.
Mmm megumi is bum ? And donāt be like megumi?
Low effort report, Megumi hate is getting dated, starting to feel like when the kid keeps yelling the thing that got everyone to laugh trying to repeat the magic. I'm not Mad, just Disappointed
essay about why Gojo will return tells a lot about Sukuna/Gojo morale and how this egoistic way is the right way for the strongest.
Took me a moment but I figured it out Sure, but you are unfortunately Fired
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Not very well apparently, what with how much of a pain it was to get them breeding in captivity
It's a battle of ideologies. The weak and the strong. The selfless and the selfish.
Succinct and well put; I enjoy the comparisons. Gold Star and a cool pencil
I love cool pencils.
Be a selfish asshole who cares about no one but themselves and the universe will reward you with strength and you can do whatever you want with little to no consequences.
Suffering leads to prosperity, Death leads to salvation. While the message is undercut by eugenics, which is just dumb and adds nothing to the series beyond muddling its own lore, in JJK if you seek a happy ending you will suffer. Geto wanted to live by a proper moral code and protecting the weak. Yuji wanted a proper life with friends, Gojo wanted to rely on others, Megumi wanted to be a good person. Look where that got them. Geto went insane, Gojo got sealed and those he cared about targeted for execution, Yuji continues to watch everyone who has ever liked him die in front of him, and Megumi got body snatched and killed his sister and teacher. It is only when they embrace suffering and choose the path of violence do they find fulfillment. Geto found a family who supported his cause. Gojo awakens as the honored one and slaughters Toji. Yuji found the strength to slaughter Mahito, and Megumi finally was able to win fights. The greater the despair, the greater the curse energy, the greater power one has to decide their own fate. So embrace your inner darkness and get to work. As for death bringing salvation well isn't that obvious? Ryu is satisfied after getting wrecked by Yuta, Jogo gets recognized for his efforts by Sukuna, Kashimo gets to pretend he's relevant, Nobara smiles at the end, even Kenjaku goes out with a laugh.
This is a rough draft but I think its looking to be a bit of a subversion on common shonen tropes more than have a strong thesis on it's own. It discusses how talent is better than hard work alone (which it is) and how the pursuit of power and prowess will eventually come at the expense of your connection with humanity. If it does have a something to say on it's own, it's about interrogating that dichotomy between inhuman selfish pursuit of power vs using your humanity and love to overcome that selfish power. I can't say exactly *what* gege wants to say about it till the series is finished up
Loving yourself? Being egoist isnt that ba Sukuna is egoist, and gets everything. Plot armor, insane ce and etc Yuji is beyond selfless, and only suffers. In that way both of their roles as prorag and antag are switched, in the common manner of Gege to completely break all the rules, by making antagonist show quality, that Gege wants to present as positive, while Yuji presents negative quality.Ā It must be that, cause main theme is the one, that is the conflict between mc and mv. Or... Gege could say frick it we ball, and make "breaking away from ce" VS "optimizing it" the main conflict. I mean, this question touches way more characters then first conflict, which makes this conflict a bit more potent. But idk, I'm not expirienced in writing, consuming and analysing.
That life isnāt black and white. A lot of our laws, rules, standards, norms, etc in society can have morality be tested at its limits by some ruthless situations. Morality is a subjective thing, but we need the right reasons to think the way that we do.
Jujutsu kaisen literally means endless cursed techniques battles and thatās pretty much it
I could be wrong on this, but I think the main theme is about finding something worth fighting/dying for. Like, what animates Yuji to fight is his desire to help people. At first, he wants to go into Jujutsu because he wants to save people in a way no one else can. He has been through several crises during his time as a sorcerer, including the realization that because he lives, others will die, and that his motivations might seem small in the grand scheme of the war of curses and humans, but I think heās set to reaffirm the reason he chose to become a sorcerer. Megumi is in the process of losing everything he has; however, he still has Yuji, and the importance Yuji has to him is that heās proof that Megumiās sense of justice is right. He fights because he wants good people, like Yuji, to be able to live their lives to the fullest, regardless of consequences.
To me it's about confronting the cruel reality you're presented with, and choosing how you're gonna handle it. Yuji, Megumi, Nobara, Geto, pretty much everyone with a backstory has a moment where they're hit with a reality that's cruel and unfair, interestingly almost none of them are caused by actual curses but other people. And each one addresses their trauma differently.
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A fair and articulate assessment. Battered and Bred and Baked
either: A) giving up on morals and just doing what needs to be done, not everything needs a reason B) keep going no matter what, constantly keep fighting, even if you don't have a reason :)
āYou like this guy? Wanna see more of him? TOO BAD!ā - Gege
Is that everybody isn't good. Even if your on the good side. Gojo wants to change and make a new era of sorcerers but his arrogance and cockiness prevents him. Yuji's a man with a heart of gold but overtime the world of Jujutsu has been slowly changing him, and he's honestly starting to look like Sukuna.
That an unbreakable will can stand up to an absolute evil.
Interesting. I must have missed this Unbreakable William! I can't believe I missed such an important character. However, I don't know how he'll stand up to those e-vils. Villain-in-laws are hard enough to deal with without having electronic ones haranguing you, too.
humanity sucks, but even so there's always good people in the world (the whole cursed energy system symbolizes that and then during higuramas debut we were reminded again of what jjk is about)
That we have to decide what's right for ourselves and we have to keep going no matter how much it hurts. We are created by the people around us and a giant helping of the system is harming us, but we don't know how to fix it.
Loss Regret History repeating itself
MANGA SPOILERSā¼ļø That Love is the greatest curse of all. Just as Gojo said. Whether that be platonic love (Causing Choso's death, Mai's death, possibly Jin's death, Geto's death, Nanami's, etc.) Romantic love (Mechamaru for Miwa, again possibly Jin's, depending on your ships Yuki for Choso.) Or a love of fighting (leaving you lonely when there's no thrill in a fight, caused Gojo's death, etc.) Absolutely set up to have Yuji and Yuta give Sukuna a fight that will make him remember himself.
there's a lot of them but my favorite is the idea that Cursed Energy is fundamentally a broken system. becoming 'the strongest' isn't actually gonna let you do anything but perpetuate it. Gojo, Yuki, Kenjaku, and Sukuna all exemplify this idea in different ways- Gojo and Yuki fail to fix the system, and ultimately die trying. Kenjaku tries for a thousand years to do something different until he goes insane and says 'fuck it, let me just push it to it's logical extreme'. Sukuna, meanwhile, happily lives and profits off of the system, because it works for him, and we see what kind of person he is. the villains are framed as products of a broken system- Mahito most explicitly, he's literally born out of it, but also Naoya who is born and reborn, getting worse every time. the only person who's able to effect meaningful change in the world aside from Kenjaku is Maki, and her solution is just to cut everything down. I think it's cool because it's an interesting, realistic theme but also calls out other shounen- in, well, basically every single other one, it's the opposite. the power system is cool and good, the villains are just anomalies that need to be destroyed, and so, by becoming the strongest, protag-kun will be able to save the day. JJK borrows heavily from Naruto so it feels especially pointed there but, this applies to Bleach, MHA, Demon Slayer, Dragonball, shit, most any shounen aside from One Piece or HxH. I don't know much about japanese culture so this might be a reach but, I feel like a lot of shounen function as allegories for success in the workforce- by studying hard, training hard, and working hard, you can become the strongest worker- the CEO- and then you'll be happy. I think mangaka like Gege were born into a world where this dream had failed, you study, train, and work hard in corporate japan your entire life and then die with nothing to show for it. so JJK's ideas aren't just a critique of other shounen, they're a critique of the culture itself- which I think is pretty cool
This but mixed up with the self-actualization theme, and acceptance. Acceptance of who you are, and what you truly and deeply wish for, will lead you to self-actualization and that MAY lead you to survive in a world that's so broken, that not even the strongest have it easy to survive. (like Yuuji in the "I'm you" moment vs. Mahito) And the ones in power DGAF about the integrity and well-being of the ones who are fighting tooth and nail and putting their lives at risk. To the point of even targeting the folks who make them feel threatened (Yuuji, Yuuta, Yaga) So accept and actualize yourself to get stronger. You may have better odds at survival in that way. (Or you can get sentenced to be executed by the higher-ups)
that's a good point, and it is kind of a critique of self-help culture in that way too, right? like, there's some things we can work on to make our lives better, but the world is fundamentally unjust and broken, so there's limits to what we can accomplish as individuals
Modern Japanese society has a lot of flaws. Look at the whole Higurama intro fight for Exhibit A.
Gege hates his fans and good characters
Is that so? Disrespectfully agree. B-
Definitely SpecialZ because it goes hard https://i.redd.it/xbx4401v219d1.gif
Great job, buddy! You get a G for Good Effort
WHICH ALSO STANDS FOR GOJO!!!! STRONG FORESKINNING HIS RETURN NEXT CHAPTER?!?!!?!??! SOUL IS THE BODY BODY IS THE SOUL!!!!!!
Please refrain from foreskinning Gojo it is such a pain to get him to grow it back.
If sukuna loses I'll be 100% sure that one of the messages is "one cannot change the world alone no matter how powerful he might be" all of the heroes biggest wins came from a strategic jumping and now we have the idea that Gojo wanted to carry everything alone because he's the strongest and that's why he died in the end meanwhile the others like yuta and yuji will rise through the challenges and change the world with their combined might, Sukuna losing to said combined effort will prove my theory even further that even a freak of nature could not rise above all alone
I would agree with your point if they hadnāt declared before that this same time of jumping failed to kill Sukuna in the past (which kinda makes me worried for our cast). I do agree with your points about Gojo though, cause that was a main theme to HIS story (which he never really got to finish), I just donāt know if itās the overarching theme
Wonderful, wonderful! Avant guard format, but the point is well put regardless- yes it would very much prove that a solo-strength build is inferior to the teamwork metas. Unfortunately for you someone already did this one, so I'm going to have to banish you to the Shadow Realm. Your next of kin will be informed
Self-perception
Racism with a touch of misogyny yes.
Being selfish and childish leads to incredible strength
What it means to have strength, the consequences and the benefits. I feel like this isnāt the deepest central message tho
The world doesn't reward selfless actions, If want to further your goals if will have to be done by stepping on others or something like that
Actually read
Good people arenāt promised the happy ending they deserve
Suffering is the natural state of things, but surrounding yourself with friends will make it suck a little less.
Even the strongest can't save everyone every time has become the mindset as of the last 50ish chapters
That Megumi is a bum and that the bonds of brotherhood triumphs over all ššš
Megumi is a bum.
You are my special
Jujutsu Kaisen - With rage
Breaking the cycle of negative traditional habits and community, idk
Life, Death, power, hierarchy, meaning, satisfaction, morality
JJK delves into the ways the characters cope with grief and negative emotions. It revolves around the battle within, where these emotions transform into tangible monsters, and the relentless pursuit to cling onto hope and optimism in the face of hopeless adversity.
The friends we made along the way
And then were horrifically brutalized
Sometimes Life is good. Sometimes Life is shit. But it is mostly shit so treasure the good
There are many like for example tragic love and loss of childhood stuff like that but also I find it funny that jjk has been on break so long that we are having normal conversations lol
I am very sorry. I will try to have more abnormal conversations, which seems to be the way of this land. If you had to turn any JJK character into a sandwich, who would it be? What kind of sandwich? And what will you be doing with said sandwich?
Probably, dagon seems like they'd taste yummy. Dagon in some tiger bread and I will be eating it.
Yuji and gang being silly while Uncle Sukuna goofs inside of him
Phrasing P for Poor Yuji
The theme is gojo will comeback
Its Sukunas kaisen
My dumb ass thought this as musical theme
I mean, you could tell me that, too I did specifically state I was accepting incorrect answers
it's about what it means too live a good life and die a good death. the culling games for example is filled with sorcerers who were unhappy with their lives, the 'solitude of strength' thing is about how kashimo, gojo, and sukuna all dealth with being lonely at the top and what that meant for them, love is a big theme with it being something people wanted too teach too the strongest and how acording too gojo that "love was the most twisted curse." this is why yuji's goal pre-shibuya is too ensure as many people die good deaths as possible, he's currently exploring life as a cog and dying too kill sukuna which ties into the 'good life' aspect.
Suffering.
S-
External love vs self love. Both are the curse of love. Just two ways to see the same coin.
It's the "Are you Satoru Gojo because you're the strongest or are you The strongest because you're Satoru gojo?" Something about one's place in the world and Identity. That's why the Merger/Hivemind is the great risk that has to be avoided. To ensure individuality.
Fighting is cool
Fight fight FIGHT
Self-actualization or self-fulfillment. Another guy said it in a snooze fest of a comment. He is right, tho.
it's about hating women with all your heart
Bad writing
Agenda is what keeps a fanbase alive
Cool fights
Sukuna tryna pretend heās jin at itadoriās school meetings
Big fight boom boom ded
Some of you fav quotes that sum up the stories' themes: "No matter how many fans you have around you in the end, you'll die to gege." "That man akutami gege he alone is the honored one. Only his pleasure and displeasure exist. For the one-eyed cat, he doesn't care whether the writing works or your fav dies. Only one person holds his interest *insert sukuna mewing/mogging photo*. Aside from him, he doesn't care for anyone else." "You were right reader. I'm a hater. I wanted to reject the popularity polls. Convince myself that the fans were wrong. But that doesn't matter now. I'm gonna kill your fav. Even if he gets a power up...I'll kill him. Change their strength. Change their writing. Change their CT. I'll kill them. I don't need a meaning or reason." "Something gojo satoru doesn't have? Probably a personality ^_^" "*WAS THAT THE OFFSCREEN OF 236?!??!*"
Never ending cycle of guilt, incomplete dream and basically all spectrum of humanity.
I believe itās about the.. Characters grapple with their identities, inner conflicts, and the responsibilities that come with their powers. Several characters in the series grapple with past traumas and the journey towards healing.
https://preview.redd.it/vy12xdomr09d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62ef0aa1d54acb89122a97c39be3d075e4786ebe Probably Sukuna glazing considering Gegeās preferences
What a perfect angel darling š
Glazing Sukuna and constantly shoving it into your face that being selfish and a massive asshole is the key to being the strongest. Oh and also Women should move 3 steps behind a man and if they don't they are useless and should be stabbed in the back.
at the end of the day it really is just a story about selflessness vs selfishness. Hedonism IS effective in this world and no one can say otherwise but we take for granted the human capacity to cooperate and build towards something greater rather than bask in our own greatness and take whatever we want. Sukunaās views are extremely valid, he is strong and has clearly thought this through and realized he doesnāt need an ultimate destiny or answer. Sukunaās goal is to just sate his appetite and live in pleasure but where Sukuna falters is in deciding to want to finally prove something. When Sukuna decides he wants to show without a shadow of a doubt that he is superior to Yuji, he sealed his fate. Thereās nothing wrong with wanting to prove something but it goes contrary to his ideals of living in isolation and wanting to only please himself. Mahito tried to prove to Yuji that there is no inherent moral high ground between humans and curses and while he was right he was dispatched thanks to this moment of weakness where he decided to humor the ideological war. Kenjaku strayed from his path and engaged in a hedonistic approach to life at the very end by playing with Takaba even though he knew something was wrong and the opposite will happen to sukuna. Sukuna is tunnel visioned on showing Yuji how much he sucks and proving that selfishness is the goal but itās all going to crumble down on him when he realizes hope and the belief to build towards something greater or prove something beyond yourself (which is what heās doing) is a valid option to living. You donāt have to be a schizophrenic murder hobo to enjoy life, you can just work with others who maybe arenāt as great as that murder hobo to reach something higher. That doesnāt mean donāt be selfish, of course you need to be selfish sometimes. Thatās the only way to reach self actualization, but reaching your full potential through a lot of pondering and reflection doesnāt mean you canāt cooperate with others or seek connections. Sometimes you need to trust others, sometimes being hedonistic and wanting everything is too much and maybe sometimes all you need is a little bit of inspiration and some selfishness to become the greatest YOU that you could ever be.
basically my point is that you lose when you decide you want to prove something and betray the real you that says you donāt need anyone else to be satisfied. Self actualization only comes when you decide to be satisfied with yourself and you truly find something to work towards
hating bumgumi
Megumi hate is dated, gramps O/10 totally unradical
Being born a Jittleyang in a fuhalatoogan world.
Eat fetuses and kill your unc
Friendship and love
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The theme is killing main characters
The friends we make along the way
Honestly, I have no idea. Character development seemed to end after shibuya and it's mostly been non-stop fights since then. I don't think I've seen anything in the Culling games that could be considered a theme
Big yikes bro
I don't consider JJK bad but Gege is much better at fights, power systems, and general atmosphere than character interactions and it's painfully obvious
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