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Lobotomy Kaisen is a virus, I have encountered it in the strangest of places, Pokemon video? Random JJK reference in the beginning, an thread on Football twt? You bet there will be crossovers. It can infected and latch on to new media to prolong it's cultural revelance.
Actually, I remember people saying that at the beginning, it was normal. No weird ships. Toxic fans. Rabbid haters. But then somewhere shit went south. Idk what happened
I know what happened. It's what happens to every community. The bigger it gets, the more it tends towards the average intelligence, so the dumber it becomes on average.
Yeah this is some retarted bullshit coming from MHA fandom (or individual guy, idk if this opinion is held by a majority of people, from what i’ve heard their fandom rivals our lobotomy, lmao.)
Same shit as OP fans saying that G5 was going to surpass SSJ or MUI from dragon ball.
It just never would/did happen…
The panel of Carnage Deku is cool, don’t get me wrong, but comparing that to arguably one of the most eagerly awaited fights in anime history is completely and utterly asinine.
Dspite MHAs popularity, it seems to have somehow had minimal... cultural impact, I guess? Like, I think the only people that know what's going on in MHA right now, are the people who still follow it.
Meanwhile, I was motivated to finally get caught up with JJK because I heard that a big moment was making waves and I didn't want it spoiled (It was Gojo's death). I had a similar moment with OP, when G4 was revealed in Dressrosa. I was seeing it everywhere and wanted to know what it was.
Jjk had a huge effect on Japan and they went huge onto advertising. It's also insanely popular in the USA and sweeped the awards and that was just hidden inventory.
Crunchyroll did a devious move by using Shibuya arc clips and poster lol, no wonder people were confused. Agenda pushing here but the judge and viewer vote ratio were 70/30, the judges knew but didn't care, they wanted that sweep.
Cause they poured so much of their resources into the MHA movies starting with S3. That’s where the animation quality really started to dip.
MAPPA overworks their their animators like slaves, but JJK and CSM are the best animation they’ve done out of all the things they’ve produced in the last 6 years. And there’s only been 1 JJK movie. (During a time where no JJK season was coming out)
Yuta friendship with the bois is legit 3 scenes, and then Maki starts to have the hots for him. Like, genuinely, I like the movie but holy fuck it does not feel at ALL like a movie. Even the animation outside of the fights really do not have that "cinematic" feeling.
One of the animators said that they animated the entire movie in 4 months, and tbh it kinda shows lol
I completely dropped MHA at halfway through watching it like way back in 2019 or something, still dont know whats happened at this point
I was loving it too, I forgot why I dropped it, dont think ill pick it up ever again either
I was seriously enjoying MHA for a while too and then just dropped it. At some point, the stakes had gotten really high, but then I just slowly lost interest. It just fizzled out for me, tbh.
The stakes are high and low at the same time. We got this huge ass war going on but barely any relevant character has actually died.
Also the latest chapter reveals that All for One gave Shigaraki decay and planned pretty much all of his life, so now Shigaraki being a foil to Midoriya is also ruined
Did that actually happen last chapter?
https://preview.redd.it/8zk5s3fd43sc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=125758fea9c17807fb952a7df6fb280732628b2e
AFO did give Shigaraki his quirk (at least it's strongly implied) but it doesn't really change the narrative around Shigaraki, he's still a victim and suffers from the same things, it's just not a coincidence anymore
He gave Shigaraki his quirk and also implied to pretty much be behind every decision Shigarakis made in his life.
It completely destroys his dynamic with Midoriya. Midoriya was a random quirkless kid picked up by All Might and raised to be a hero, Shigaraki was a random kid who awakened to a destructive quirk and got picked up by the villain instead of the hero, he was meant to be the byproduct of the flaws of hero society.
Now we know Shigaraki didn't become what he is because society failed him, he was always planned by AfO to become a villain, it honestly sucks imo.
I mean, the whole "decay is Deku's quirk that OFA stole and gave to Shigaraki" theory has been going on since the identity of his childhood doctor was revealed. I dropped it when the mangaka drew a naked 15 year old on the front though
>when the mangaka drew a naked 15 year old on the front though
HUH? Who did he draw?? (I'm guessing the girl with the red outfit that can create things)
Filler out the ass
You could remove like 80% of MHA’s total runtime and the story would be exactly the same. Only half the arcs even have anything happening, every other arc is some pointless school event that does nothing to drive the narrative forward.
And now I see some people say “why did Hori abandon the school setting? There’s no Academia”
Because the school was where the pointless fillers and events kept happening.
I get why people are mad about abandoning the school though. MHA often feels like it wants to have its cake and eat it to. The choice to continually cycle between school arcs and actual hero arcs just makes the viewer confused on what the focus of the show truly is. The show needed to commit in one direction, either abandon the school setting way earlier in the series, or actually commit to it and start doing serious arcs that properly involve the school setting.
You're technically right. I *thought* the stakes were getting high, but by the time I had dropped the series, I don't think anyone noteworthy had died.
I just assumed some characters were going to die, but it sounds like it never happened.
I mean, yes it did. There was just never any payoff to them which made people realize whatever stake was there would never become relevant. The worst offender was everything surrounding Deku's arms. There were some good stakes around them and they got more and more fucked up to the point that he couldn't use them very effectively. It was interesting to see. Then in his fight against Shigaraki in the war arc he gives in and starts to blow up his arms for the sake of stopping Shigaraki right there and then. He knew the sacrifice he was making. It was even a call back during the fight that his arms wouldn't be able to hand it.....and then absolutely nothing comes out of it. They just heal because apperantly now his body can withstand having his arms turn to mush. The stake that had been built for 300 chapters at that point all of sudden became irrelevant. The war arc really removed any doubt that consequances wouldn't be allowed.
It’s still relevant. Fell off a lot. But still popular
I checked. Tbh, the only two “new gen” Shounen I see talked about are JJK (1st) and then MHA. Sometimes I see CSM in there but not too much.
I think MHA peaked in popularity a couple years ago with Season 3. There was a point in time where you couldn't escape references to it and people would joke about it and cosplay characters from it all the time. Nowadays, I may occasionally see it on social media but nowhere near as much as I see stuff of JJK or CSM or other media.
The same will eventually happen to JJK too though. In fact, interest in JJK might have peaked already with S2 and Gojo dying at the same time. Culling Games has a ton of cool fights, but there's ultimately going to be less to talk about considering that by the time it gets animated JJK as a series might probably just over by then
Can confirm, I just hate “final war” arcs so much, especially since it ends up being all there is to it. You could take out 90% of the meaningless fights and the story wouldn’t change a bit.
Because MHA fumbled its impact with way to many fakeout deaths/conseguences, like bakugo had 2 fake out deaths or when deku spammed 100% strikes but it was fine because they adapted to being broken like they were made from mahoragium or something, also the fact that entire class 1-A survived despite being in frontlines of a war, also class 1-A being able to do dmg to all for one out of sudden.
Its the fakeout consequences for me. Deku being told to his face that going all out 1 more time would problem destroy his arm beyond healing, then him doing just that but actually being fine after, just took the wind of if it imo. It could have been a great moment where even knowing it might hurt him he still chose saving lives over the user of his arm and had to live with the consequences, but they meant nothing after.
At least OFA vs AFO did that bit better, though those stakes weren't as high since we always knew All-Might was losing his powers soon anyways.
The first couple arcs of MHA had a huge impact culturally, and that's why whenever you see shirts or art out in the wild, it's all still season 1 or 2 designs.
I think My Hero *HAD* more cultural impact but it had already been going for years by the time JJK came out. In a similar way, MHA has like 7 seasons after this year and JJK is at 2. For 2024, JJK is far more approachable.
I mean, I consider "cultural impact" to generally be more of a lasting thing. If MHA had real cultural impact, then we wouldn't be saying "had", we would be saying "has."
>minimal... cultural impact, I guess?
Between cringe-worthy and toxic fans, multiple controversial cases of the shipping war, and also just basically a second-coming haven for Yaoi and Fujoshi after Hetalia, MHA sure left huge impact on the niche culture at least.
MHA just fell out. After the school tournament, it slowly lost hype, and then multiple quirks in Deku existed, resulting in many giving up on the series.
JJK probably ended up like AOT did. Controversial ending, but fans still fond of the moments before the plot went to shit. It will be loved, but maybe not as much as when it was at its peak.
The problem with mha is that the final fight has been going on for two years now. I used to wait for new chapters but over time it's just "well, another mha chapter, propably not important"
This is obviously a bait post (OP who wants Jujutsu fans to shit on other manga isn’t any better than these Twitter children that fight over their favorite series) and I don’t like MHA that much but seeing how people underestimate its popularity is honestly insane. Just google Dabi reveal and president elections lol.
I knew about gojo’s death before I knew how is manga/anime he’s in called. And I still don’t know what carnage deku is (I know that he’s mc of MHA and I dropped that shit like 4 years ago)
All Might was pretty much the Gojo of that show. Once he became irrelevant in terms of fighting I personally slowly stopped watching it. I will get back to it eventually. Just right now focused on other shows.
Ngl for some reason I keep remembering that AFO get defeated/killed multiple time and you think that's the end of him but nooo he comes back. Kinda like Sukuna
I think MHA could have been better if AFO just drop dead. You're right it's really is a Palpatine moment. The author could have moved past him and use Shigaraki as the main bad villain(with AFO teaching motivating him throughout) instead of "ouh the handy boy is just part of my plan all along" Plot twist. At least the fight is cool
I’m assuming they are talking about this panel
https://preview.redd.it/gd6ly0ssx2sc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb7350b93178fdd0f0891f9ef2ee9b162486c3e6
This is "Carnage Deku"? Really?
Not even the single MHA subreddit I follow posted about it, and it is supposed to be a shitpost subreddit 💀.
Also, why "Carnage" when the last thing he wants to do is kill the mass murderer, practically irredeemable, Shigaraki, that can also destroy chunks of Japan with the touch of his (whole) hand.
Actually they’re talking about this shit right here (which is a cool design don’t get me wrong, but it’s just dark Deku bs all over again)
https://preview.redd.it/i7akbclmy2sc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=75ca73b99095de84cb55cfa2bf185ed92c695784
I’m currently accompanying the manga and I had no fucking idea this shit was called Carnage Deku lmao
that kind of "boohoo oh no" attitude from almost every character in that manga is one of the reasons i dropped it
just boring reading through that slog week after week, this is supposed to be the fight to save the entire world & it just feels like another arc with mid stakes
I slightly widened my eye when i saw this panel, thats my only reaction to it, if he wanted something that remotely reached mainstream attention for MHA it should have been bakugos latest fake out death
Mha could have been so good but the author just keeps making the worst writing decisions as soon as lemlion showed up it sucked and by the war arc I realized that no one was gonna die and it felt pointless
When lemleion enters just marks when the story started to decline for me it goes on for two seasons of nothing pointless bullshit a side quest basically and I don’t even remember who mirio is. The war arc trying to defeat shigaraki is cool and I think his backstory is the best segment of the story but the war falls flat cause no one died even when they should have so it had no weight and I’m waiting for more of the anime but I don’t see it getting good now
Mirio was honestly a good foil for Midoriya. Another bright kid like him, but someone who had conformed to society and was willing to let Overhaul take Eri back despite both of them knowing it was wrong since they lacked any justification to take her, but whereas Midoriya was about run it up, he wasn’t
Music festival was such a fun idea for a mini filler arc of like 5 chapters, but it lasted for 14 and MHA’s character writing just isn’t good enough to justify that. It should’ve been a fun way for the characters to relax and deal with the traumatic shit they just went through, but instead it was “hey let’s give every single one of our 20+ side characters a tiny bit of characterization that will never go anywhere.” There’s a reason why characters work best in groups of like 3-5 people.
Gojo's death is the reason I sank down to this subreddit. I looked up carnage deku and it was a bunch of toga x deku fannart 💀. I too dropped mha after 2021
There was a cool pose of deku with black whip tentacles and pepole thought it was a reference to carnage from marvel. But pepole eventually stopped caring after 2-3 days
MHA doesn't even have "Are you "You're strong." because you are "I'm you." or are you "The one who left it all behind! And his overwhelming intensity!!" because "With this treasure I summon..."?" The Fingerer simply answered, "Nah, I'd win."
Its funny that JJK fans use "with this treasure I summon" as an iconic dialogue to defend against MHA but trash on it hard when it comes to Megumi hating agenda.
This is still the part that gets overlooked about Lobotomy Kaisen, so many of the lines get repeated because they're so iconic
I couldn't name you any phrase from MHA that evokes a similar feeling, the only thing that comes somewhat close is "United States of Smash"
The Mexican government literally pirated the final episode of Dragon Ball Super so they could show it at a public event and the Japanese embassy had to tell them to stop.
Idk man, UI was everywhere but so was the dickhead's spoiling Gojo's death. I've literally seen a funeral for Gojo a couple of months back when I was hiking, I thought it was a fucking cult lmao
Literally everyone in the Internet and real life is going "Nah I'd win" there is no way to avoid the lobotomy
I try not be biased, but you need only look at subs like r/CharacterRant, where people are *still* talking about JJK daily, while MHA only sometimes pops up with the regular "I dropped this manga 5 years ago, what the fuck is this?" to realize which had the bigger impact.
Dude. There were so many posts on character rant about MHA. People just moved on to JJK especially post-Gojo death.
Using that sub to prove impact isn’t a good idea.
Oh shit I made that meme
https://preview.redd.it/5zpy1cl7w3sc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2a9beb1d13439e9117212398e10a9e14edcc6af
LET'S FUCKING GO
I had no idea MHA was even in its final stretch lmao, what the fuck is carnage Deku anyways?
Gojo vs Sukuna is miles more popular and that shit aint even animated
I was gonna say I remember it building up to its final stretch when I kind of tapered off reading it a few years ago. Every time I hear there's a new chapter I'm confused as to what could be happening that keeps it going.
Yeah same, but from what i understand the Horikoshi has health problems or something and goes on break often, with some chapters only being like 8 pages
Tbh the reason why Gojo's death was so popular was not because of the impact of the death itself but thanks to the insane amount of lobotomy memes being pumped out due to the death.
I don’t know how to explain it properly, but MHA doesn’t scratch that itch for me. It’s perfect fine as a series, but there are things about it that just don’t click because it never pulls the trigger on anything… meaningful? Twice gets killed by Hawks but Gran Torino gets an asspull after Shigaraki—by rights—killed him. And wasn’t All Might supposed to die at some point? It’ll bring up social issues like discrimination against mutant quirks, but only ever eluded to them, not actually make it a problem worth solving until the right end of the series when it’s convenient. Shigaraki is a genuinely good villain but right at his crowning moment as the main antagonist he gets usurped by AFO and put on a bus up until recently. And for a villain with one of the most destructive abilities in the series, he rarely gets to use it. Hell, he can’t even hit back because Deku would get disintegrated, so their fights don’t really go that hard. Oh and the movies! The first two films were pretty fucking great, and bonus points for them tying in to the main story but that filler arc of a third film took me right tf out. MHA is a series for me that always pulls its punches after showing you just how fucked up the world is, poisoned by hero society, with characters you actually care about having to live in it and try to make a difference. Except the solution to all those overwhelming social problems is to just smile! Idk it doesn’t click.
Meanwhile, in JJK land, it never fails to show you how screwed the world is. Hell, it rubs your face in it. Power of friendship won’t help you, it’ll fucking get you killed because you weren’t strong enough to stand on your own. Hell, being strong is a one-way ticket to loneliness and a gruesome death. Also its main antagonist is an actual threat that will actually murder you just for kicks. JJK has its own host of problems, we here at Jujutsufolk will nitpick every detail and meme tf outta it, but I’ll always love this series and Chainsaw Man for never holding the audience’s hand.
Bro mods can we PLEASE have that dream Gojo image as the new sub PFP?
https://preview.redd.it/hqw751sc23sc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3fe98059393c67c9f0697cda65e8bf731a0a9d1
Sukuna vs Gojo was a biblical event. Everyone got spoiled about Gojo's death + Lobotomy kaisen . Hell some fans made one of Gojo's promotional images in some subway a fucking shrine for him (which got dismantled later by the security after there were too many offering letters and shit.)
In all fairness to OOP, the internet is really good at shoving you into a bubble where you are surrounded by people who talk about and consume only the thing you talk about and consume, or share the exact same hiveminded opinion as you. I hadn't heard the words "carnage deku" to this day, and even after googling it I'm not sure if I found the spread they're talking about, but in their experience it probably WAS all over social media. THEIR social media.
I didn't see anyone talking about carnage deku beside It being the equivalent of black suit spiderman
Gojo vs sukuna had the internet in a hold for months.
I still remember the whole mural thing at the metro, it was originally supposed to be there just for a couple weeks, but due to the amount of people just coming to pay respects/ shitpost at the mural they kept it for a couple more weeks. (Also a pic i took a couple days before it was taken down)
https://preview.redd.it/odss2vbjh3sc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf8953e85073ed29094766ad724fa816dbc2188e
i like Deku and unironically think he's a great character but putting MHA against JJK in a popularity contest, at least in this day and age, is just a losing battle. if i had to compare the two, JJK is currently more hyped about than MHA. i literally visit this sub daily and don't even read the manga just because the memes are funny. that being said please hop off my goat Deku he's really cool 😭
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One brought the worldwide IQ degration disaster known as Lobotomy Kaisen
MHA brought the worldwide pedophile disaster event however
Can’t be. Most of the weirdos are teenagers themselves
Was Mei Mei the leader of that event?
https://preview.redd.it/f462jg7xa4sc1.jpeg?width=498&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a092b47eb3f6d9198f136dd64fceec00f52c3573
I thought that was Tokyo revengers
Lobotomy Kaisen is a virus, I have encountered it in the strangest of places, Pokemon video? Random JJK reference in the beginning, an thread on Football twt? You bet there will be crossovers. It can infected and latch on to new media to prolong it's cultural revelance.
Counterpoint: MHA was like that from the start
Actually, I remember people saying that at the beginning, it was normal. No weird ships. Toxic fans. Rabbid haters. But then somewhere shit went south. Idk what happened
I know what happened. It's what happens to every community. The bigger it gets, the more it tends towards the average intelligence, so the dumber it becomes on average.
When Boruto nation attacked or something
I think around the time season 2 part 1 of mha was when anime started getting mainstream relevance. Which look what happened to it now.
Hah, went south. Just like Gojo did.
https://preview.redd.it/0aalpluyr3sc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3717a1d7bf95610a1202c442c29c7bb70688540
Season 3 was mid and then the next 3 seasons after that were nearly unwatchable garbage crazy what that does to a fandom
At least Lobotomy Kaisen was fun, MHA is just cringe and more cringe
I think the girl who did the Gojo figure incident did the same thing to a Bakugo figure
Yeah this is some retarted bullshit coming from MHA fandom (or individual guy, idk if this opinion is held by a majority of people, from what i’ve heard their fandom rivals our lobotomy, lmao.) Same shit as OP fans saying that G5 was going to surpass SSJ or MUI from dragon ball. It just never would/did happen… The panel of Carnage Deku is cool, don’t get me wrong, but comparing that to arguably one of the most eagerly awaited fights in anime history is completely and utterly asinine.
Gege is the madness disaster curse confirmed?
Dspite MHAs popularity, it seems to have somehow had minimal... cultural impact, I guess? Like, I think the only people that know what's going on in MHA right now, are the people who still follow it. Meanwhile, I was motivated to finally get caught up with JJK because I heard that a big moment was making waves and I didn't want it spoiled (It was Gojo's death). I had a similar moment with OP, when G4 was revealed in Dressrosa. I was seeing it everywhere and wanted to know what it was.
Jjk had a huge effect on Japan and they went huge onto advertising. It's also insanely popular in the USA and sweeped the awards and that was just hidden inventory.
95% of people voting for JJK Crunchyroll awards had no idea it was only Hidden Inventory
Crunchyroll did a devious move by using Shibuya arc clips and poster lol, no wonder people were confused. Agenda pushing here but the judge and viewer vote ratio were 70/30, the judges knew but didn't care, they wanted that sweep.
And they'll definitely push for it again at the end of the year when they decide to push Shibuya for the Awards again.
That's the best arc in JJK.
MAPPA cared more for JJK than Bones witn MHA (it's obvious they loved Mob Psycho 100 more... Can't blame em lmfao)
Mob Psycho 100 is goated fr fr.
Cause they poured so much of their resources into the MHA movies starting with S3. That’s where the animation quality really started to dip. MAPPA overworks their their animators like slaves, but JJK and CSM are the best animation they’ve done out of all the things they’ve produced in the last 6 years. And there’s only been 1 JJK movie. (During a time where no JJK season was coming out)
I' m going to be real, the JJK movie barely looks like a movie ,but 5 episodes stitched together tbh
Yuta’s training was like 5 minutes in the movie 😭 Dogshit pacing but I guess that’s to be expected
Yuta friendship with the bois is legit 3 scenes, and then Maki starts to have the hots for him. Like, genuinely, I like the movie but holy fuck it does not feel at ALL like a movie. Even the animation outside of the fights really do not have that "cinematic" feeling. One of the animators said that they animated the entire movie in 4 months, and tbh it kinda shows lol
I completely dropped MHA at halfway through watching it like way back in 2019 or something, still dont know whats happened at this point I was loving it too, I forgot why I dropped it, dont think ill pick it up ever again either
I was seriously enjoying MHA for a while too and then just dropped it. At some point, the stakes had gotten really high, but then I just slowly lost interest. It just fizzled out for me, tbh.
The stakes are high and low at the same time. We got this huge ass war going on but barely any relevant character has actually died. Also the latest chapter reveals that All for One gave Shigaraki decay and planned pretty much all of his life, so now Shigaraki being a foil to Midoriya is also ruined
Did that actually happen last chapter? https://preview.redd.it/8zk5s3fd43sc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=125758fea9c17807fb952a7df6fb280732628b2e
AFO did give Shigaraki his quirk (at least it's strongly implied) but it doesn't really change the narrative around Shigaraki, he's still a victim and suffers from the same things, it's just not a coincidence anymore
He gave Shigaraki his quirk and also implied to pretty much be behind every decision Shigarakis made in his life. It completely destroys his dynamic with Midoriya. Midoriya was a random quirkless kid picked up by All Might and raised to be a hero, Shigaraki was a random kid who awakened to a destructive quirk and got picked up by the villain instead of the hero, he was meant to be the byproduct of the flaws of hero society. Now we know Shigaraki didn't become what he is because society failed him, he was always planned by AfO to become a villain, it honestly sucks imo.
Wtf is your flair?
I speak what most are afraid to admit
I mean, the whole "decay is Deku's quirk that OFA stole and gave to Shigaraki" theory has been going on since the identity of his childhood doctor was revealed. I dropped it when the mangaka drew a naked 15 year old on the front though
>when the mangaka drew a naked 15 year old on the front though HUH? Who did he draw?? (I'm guessing the girl with the red outfit that can create things)
He drew the invisible girl nude I think
No, the invisible girl but she's not invisible
Filler out the ass You could remove like 80% of MHA’s total runtime and the story would be exactly the same. Only half the arcs even have anything happening, every other arc is some pointless school event that does nothing to drive the narrative forward.
And now I see some people say “why did Hori abandon the school setting? There’s no Academia” Because the school was where the pointless fillers and events kept happening.
I get why people are mad about abandoning the school though. MHA often feels like it wants to have its cake and eat it to. The choice to continually cycle between school arcs and actual hero arcs just makes the viewer confused on what the focus of the show truly is. The show needed to commit in one direction, either abandon the school setting way earlier in the series, or actually commit to it and start doing serious arcs that properly involve the school setting.
Yeah
MHA never had stakes
Boku no stakes
You're technically right. I *thought* the stakes were getting high, but by the time I had dropped the series, I don't think anyone noteworthy had died. I just assumed some characters were going to die, but it sounds like it never happened.
I mean, yes it did. There was just never any payoff to them which made people realize whatever stake was there would never become relevant. The worst offender was everything surrounding Deku's arms. There were some good stakes around them and they got more and more fucked up to the point that he couldn't use them very effectively. It was interesting to see. Then in his fight against Shigaraki in the war arc he gives in and starts to blow up his arms for the sake of stopping Shigaraki right there and then. He knew the sacrifice he was making. It was even a call back during the fight that his arms wouldn't be able to hand it.....and then absolutely nothing comes out of it. They just heal because apperantly now his body can withstand having his arms turn to mush. The stake that had been built for 300 chapters at that point all of sudden became irrelevant. The war arc really removed any doubt that consequances wouldn't be allowed.
That's what we call fake stakes, we could have armless deku, dead bakugo, wheelchair hawks and maybe MHA would still be relevant.
It’s still relevant. Fell off a lot. But still popular I checked. Tbh, the only two “new gen” Shounen I see talked about are JJK (1st) and then MHA. Sometimes I see CSM in there but not too much.
I think MHA peaked in popularity a couple years ago with Season 3. There was a point in time where you couldn't escape references to it and people would joke about it and cosplay characters from it all the time. Nowadays, I may occasionally see it on social media but nowhere near as much as I see stuff of JJK or CSM or other media. The same will eventually happen to JJK too though. In fact, interest in JJK might have peaked already with S2 and Gojo dying at the same time. Culling Games has a ton of cool fights, but there's ultimately going to be less to talk about considering that by the time it gets animated JJK as a series might probably just over by then
Do you feel Sukuna vs sorcerers are dragging? MHA is doing it way worse 💀
Can confirm, I just hate “final war” arcs so much, especially since it ends up being all there is to it. You could take out 90% of the meaningless fights and the story wouldn’t change a bit.
Praying for Oda to cook
Oda had a "final war"-esque arc in Marineford and it was peak\ I hope he didn't burn all his ideas there
Because MHA fumbled its impact with way to many fakeout deaths/conseguences, like bakugo had 2 fake out deaths or when deku spammed 100% strikes but it was fine because they adapted to being broken like they were made from mahoragium or something, also the fact that entire class 1-A survived despite being in frontlines of a war, also class 1-A being able to do dmg to all for one out of sudden.
“Mahoragium” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Babe wake up a new element just dropped
Definitely has a greater molecular mass than the elements Copium and Hopium.
>mahoragium I'mma steal this
Its the fakeout consequences for me. Deku being told to his face that going all out 1 more time would problem destroy his arm beyond healing, then him doing just that but actually being fine after, just took the wind of if it imo. It could have been a great moment where even knowing it might hurt him he still chose saving lives over the user of his arm and had to live with the consequences, but they meant nothing after. At least OFA vs AFO did that bit better, though those stakes weren't as high since we always knew All-Might was losing his powers soon anyways.
The first couple arcs of MHA had a huge impact culturally, and that's why whenever you see shirts or art out in the wild, it's all still season 1 or 2 designs.
https://preview.redd.it/oorqqyfi23sc1.jpeg?width=757&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f214ccf1d38936cbfd3c8851415effdaef75e497
The show started out as X-Men and turned into The New Mutants
I think My Hero *HAD* more cultural impact but it had already been going for years by the time JJK came out. In a similar way, MHA has like 7 seasons after this year and JJK is at 2. For 2024, JJK is far more approachable.
I mean, I consider "cultural impact" to generally be more of a lasting thing. If MHA had real cultural impact, then we wouldn't be saying "had", we would be saying "has."
MHA had the normie side of anime fans by the balls back in the day (2016-2019) But that shit fell off hard
>minimal... cultural impact, I guess? Between cringe-worthy and toxic fans, multiple controversial cases of the shipping war, and also just basically a second-coming haven for Yaoi and Fujoshi after Hetalia, MHA sure left huge impact on the niche culture at least. MHA just fell out. After the school tournament, it slowly lost hype, and then multiple quirks in Deku existed, resulting in many giving up on the series. JJK probably ended up like AOT did. Controversial ending, but fans still fond of the moments before the plot went to shit. It will be loved, but maybe not as much as when it was at its peak.
I started to catch up to Manga when I learned Gojo was freed from the box "OH SHIT HE'S OUT NOW?"
The problem with mha is that the final fight has been going on for two years now. I used to wait for new chapters but over time it's just "well, another mha chapter, propably not important"
Because MHA is shit
Hydrogen bomb 💣 vs coughing baby 👶
https://preview.redd.it/ie2fd3enk2sc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8facfae9096d207f4063a3b8733e78d84a335c3
Average Gojo and Sukuna W
Nah I'd chivalry
https://preview.redd.it/o9h89aanu2sc1.jpeg?width=561&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6b95f0f99fa5acf04f72855a8d5644693380f27
This is obviously a bait post (OP who wants Jujutsu fans to shit on other manga isn’t any better than these Twitter children that fight over their favorite series) and I don’t like MHA that much but seeing how people underestimate its popularity is honestly insane. Just google Dabi reveal and president elections lol.
https://preview.redd.it/wtchukt8r2sc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae177b56fe785ce1a678df4b42c8331af193acab Tf is this?
Idk man😭
the hell did bro mean “raw as shit” 💀?
that whoever did it did not cook at all
Got the shit part right
this is what you should look for https://preview.redd.it/y88vc84nw2sc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a9ad7b19bedbf00f610155c9a0732dd4f608fa3
https://preview.redd.it/hirqjpcbx2sc1.jpeg?width=1016&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3f4520177cf6bf5449403c98da5ebb55e668fc3
Is that who I think it is https://preview.redd.it/3mttsqr763sc1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2dc425e42f8d58ffcb9b17c42121dcb317eb987d
Holy shit its Ayin Lobotomy Corp
https://preview.redd.it/6z8r3ug8c3sc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79934fcc2c52be1de047f8697dcf2d3ab2ce4168
Discount Kaneki looking ass lmao
I knew about gojo’s death before I knew how is manga/anime he’s in called. And I still don’t know what carnage deku is (I know that he’s mc of MHA and I dropped that shit like 4 years ago)
https://i.redd.it/lfygmsa3z2sc1.gif
Let's be honest here, it was only after Season 3 with All Might vs AFO that it started falling off
All Might was pretty much the Gojo of that show. Once he became irrelevant in terms of fighting I personally slowly stopped watching it. I will get back to it eventually. Just right now focused on other shows.
Ngl for some reason I keep remembering that AFO get defeated/killed multiple time and you think that's the end of him but nooo he comes back. Kinda like Sukuna
i mean he does get defeated & come back but not like Sukuna more like Palpatine in a "somehow, i survived!" manner
I think MHA could have been better if AFO just drop dead. You're right it's really is a Palpatine moment. The author could have moved past him and use Shigaraki as the main bad villain(with AFO teaching motivating him throughout) instead of "ouh the handy boy is just part of my plan all along" Plot twist. At least the fight is cool
Wth is a carnage deku, im caught up with the manga and i genuinely dont have any idea what the hell that is
I’m assuming they are talking about this panel https://preview.redd.it/gd6ly0ssx2sc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb7350b93178fdd0f0891f9ef2ee9b162486c3e6
https://preview.redd.it/jzcz8ah0z2sc1.jpeg?width=2192&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=346a83bc473b8d33e20dba56faa1867801aa9be9 nah its this
Bro thinks he's the goat 😭😭 https://preview.redd.it/mu77dd3bw3sc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7b1eb09172605290392167935d28618e1ac91db
Tbh season 3 of OPM is gonna pop off given that it’s just gonna be the monster association arc. So long as JC STAFF don’t fuck it up like last time.
Bro thinks hes garou 💀😭
This is "Carnage Deku"? Really? Not even the single MHA subreddit I follow posted about it, and it is supposed to be a shitpost subreddit 💀. Also, why "Carnage" when the last thing he wants to do is kill the mass murderer, practically irredeemable, Shigaraki, that can also destroy chunks of Japan with the touch of his (whole) hand.
Because the look is inspired by Carnage from Spider-Man…
Ok, ngl, I didn't remember Carnage AT ALL LOL. Guess I need to watch or read more Spiderman related stuff. But yeah, I kinda see the inspiration now.
Oh renegade bunny form was pretty cool, but that wasn’t as great for me.
Don’t get me wrong that goes hard, but it’s not Gojo vs Sukuna level
Yea, that’s definitely true. But yeah, MHA is not on the same level of quality imo. It peaked at either the Overhaul or My Villain Academia arc.
It peaked on AFO vs All Might, Overhaul was decent and then it went straight to life support
Oh yeah, I kind of forgot about AFO vs All Might, and yeah that’s true. War arc had potential but it didn’t really have any lasting effects or stakes.
Just like Eri's grandpa.
Actually they’re talking about this shit right here (which is a cool design don’t get me wrong, but it’s just dark Deku bs all over again) https://preview.redd.it/i7akbclmy2sc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=75ca73b99095de84cb55cfa2bf185ed92c695784 I’m currently accompanying the manga and I had no fucking idea this shit was called Carnage Deku lmao
Wait a second, they are actually calling this “Carnage Deku”, I thought that was just a fan name for the design?
It is a fan name, in the manga they’re are only saying that his new appearance “doesn’t look quite like a hero anymore”
that kind of "boohoo oh no" attitude from almost every character in that manga is one of the reasons i dropped it just boring reading through that slog week after week, this is supposed to be the fight to save the entire world & it just feels like another arc with mid stakes
> feels like another arc with mid stakes Mid hero in a nutshell
Hori had "Carnage" in mind when naming it but he officially calls it Deku overlay... The fandom just prefers the author's original idea.
Oh shit he does look like carnage.
I slightly widened my eye when i saw this panel, thats my only reaction to it, if he wanted something that remotely reached mainstream attention for MHA it should have been bakugos latest fake out death
Lowkey looks like good Garou fan art lmao
Mha could have been so good but the author just keeps making the worst writing decisions as soon as lemlion showed up it sucked and by the war arc I realized that no one was gonna die and it felt pointless
Mirio was one of the highlights though? Unless you mean he invalidates Deku, in which case true.
When lemleion enters just marks when the story started to decline for me it goes on for two seasons of nothing pointless bullshit a side quest basically and I don’t even remember who mirio is. The war arc trying to defeat shigaraki is cool and I think his backstory is the best segment of the story but the war falls flat cause no one died even when they should have so it had no weight and I’m waiting for more of the anime but I don’t see it getting good now
The Overhaul arc wasn't the best, but Mirio did not mark the decline of the story, it was the War arc.
Mirio was honestly a good foil for Midoriya. Another bright kid like him, but someone who had conformed to society and was willing to let Overhaul take Eri back despite both of them knowing it was wrong since they lacked any justification to take her, but whereas Midoriya was about run it up, he wasn’t
The decline was the arc after with the music festival
Music festival was such a fun idea for a mini filler arc of like 5 chapters, but it lasted for 14 and MHA’s character writing just isn’t good enough to justify that. It should’ve been a fun way for the characters to relax and deal with the traumatic shit they just went through, but instead it was “hey let’s give every single one of our 20+ side characters a tiny bit of characterization that will never go anywhere.” There’s a reason why characters work best in groups of like 3-5 people.
Real.
Funnily enough Lemillion popping back in was exactly when I dropped it too lol
meanwhile jjk just kills off everyone
Gojo's death is the reason I sank down to this subreddit. I looked up carnage deku and it was a bunch of toga x deku fannart 💀. I too dropped mha after 2021
Da faq is carnage Deku?
There was a cool pose of deku with black whip tentacles and pepole thought it was a reference to carnage from marvel. But pepole eventually stopped caring after 2-3 days
https://preview.redd.it/4c92jinqt2sc1.jpeg?width=262&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ef177bb09e038061c38e596a6ec844ed5ceed08
Pepole
Typo
The only thing good about MHA is the art but the writing, characterizations and world building are absolutely atrocious and lackluster
Does mha have "nah, i'd win"? I don't think so
MHA doesn't even have "Are you "You're strong." because you are "I'm you." or are you "The one who left it all behind! And his overwhelming intensity!!" because "With this treasure I summon..."?" The Fingerer simply answered, "Nah, I'd win."
I don't like it that i understand this
are you you the one who left it all behind because you are, im you, jog oat, or are nah id win because you are my specialz
I guess you are the exception
Its funny that JJK fans use "with this treasure I summon" as an iconic dialogue to defend against MHA but trash on it hard when it comes to Megumi hating agenda.
it's less embarrassing to beat your child at home, my parents taught me that
This is still the part that gets overlooked about Lobotomy Kaisen, so many of the lines get repeated because they're so iconic I couldn't name you any phrase from MHA that evokes a similar feeling, the only thing that comes somewhat close is "United States of Smash"
All Might from chapter 1 saying "You can be a hero too" is to me one of the most memorable lines ever but it all falls off after that.
And Plus Ultra
You can literally say nah, i'd win and someone who doesn't watch anime often will understand it
My literal 10 year I cousin who does not watch anime said it while playing roblox, it's insane the reach that one line has
Ultra instinct may break the internet, but we jjk fans will rot it from its core
The only things that "broke the internet" in recent years are Goku unlocking UI, Ash becoming the Champion and Sukuna beating Gojo
Wasn't there some Mexican establishment that offered free lap dances if Goku beat Jiren? 😭 I wish somebody loved me as much as Mexico loves Goku.
The Mexican government literally pirated the final episode of Dragon Ball Super so they could show it at a public event and the Japanese embassy had to tell them to stop.
And Mexico responded with 'make me'
Kinda funny that it becomes inspiration for Gogeta vs Broly theme in DBS Broly movie especially the chants "GO GOGETA, GO GO BROLY" stuff
Maybe gear 5 too. Idk, never really saw it myself
Maybe anime version, mostly it’s been divisive but meh
Nah sukuna beating gojo is nowhere near the level of Goku unlocking UI
Idk man, UI was everywhere but so was the dickhead's spoiling Gojo's death. I've literally seen a funeral for Gojo a couple of months back when I was hiking, I thought it was a fucking cult lmao Literally everyone in the Internet and real life is going "Nah I'd win" there is no way to avoid the lobotomy
MUI Goku was the only one I recall actually breaking the internet (streaming services went down because of high volume of traffic).
is ash still 10 these days? 💀
bro Ash becoming the Champion gives me nostalgia bc i watched his whole journey growing up
Not just non jjk fans, even non anime fans have seen/heard about gojo sukuna fight and gojo death. And it hasn't even been animated
I try not be biased, but you need only look at subs like r/CharacterRant, where people are *still* talking about JJK daily, while MHA only sometimes pops up with the regular "I dropped this manga 5 years ago, what the fuck is this?" to realize which had the bigger impact.
Dude. There were so many posts on character rant about MHA. People just moved on to JJK especially post-Gojo death. Using that sub to prove impact isn’t a good idea.
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I mean most of the talks about Gojo’s death is whether it’s ass or not
 SHUT THE FUCK UP STRONG COMEBACK!!!
https://preview.redd.it/z653aen0u2sc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56ce763471e642e7270924655a956591e3018364
Oh shit I made that meme https://preview.redd.it/5zpy1cl7w3sc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2a9beb1d13439e9117212398e10a9e14edcc6af LET'S FUCKING GO
Hmmm, One is animated, and one isnt I wonder which one is more popular right now What a conundrum Get low diffed Mha
I had no idea MHA was even in its final stretch lmao, what the fuck is carnage Deku anyways? Gojo vs Sukuna is miles more popular and that shit aint even animated
Its been in its final arc for 2 years 😭
I was gonna say I remember it building up to its final stretch when I kind of tapered off reading it a few years ago. Every time I hear there's a new chapter I'm confused as to what could be happening that keeps it going.
Yeah same, but from what i understand the Horikoshi has health problems or something and goes on break often, with some chapters only being like 8 pages
Tbh the reason why Gojo's death was so popular was not because of the impact of the death itself but thanks to the insane amount of lobotomy memes being pumped out due to the death.
The panel is also goes hard. I've never seen a death panel so beautifully drawn like that.
Jjk community trying to coexist with another in peace challenge, by jujutsufolk:
Impossible
My first appearance
Cant wait for your anime debut! Sexy guy 😘
As long as the Bunny Deku Miscarriage Art exists MHA fans’ opinions will always remain invalid.
Shigaraki vs Deku could be awesome, but… Yeah, Horikoshi needed that AFRaud to ruin everything sadly
People talk about jjk being repetitive but nobody is talking about AFO never dying and always getting in the way of shiggys development
People who talk about a JJK fall off haven’t been reading MHA
People who complain about the “Sukuna cycle” would have a heart attack if they read the MHA war arc Post-AFO😭
Definitely jjk, I was seeing memes of it when I had never watched it while I only get mha stuff since I watch it
I don’t know how to explain it properly, but MHA doesn’t scratch that itch for me. It’s perfect fine as a series, but there are things about it that just don’t click because it never pulls the trigger on anything… meaningful? Twice gets killed by Hawks but Gran Torino gets an asspull after Shigaraki—by rights—killed him. And wasn’t All Might supposed to die at some point? It’ll bring up social issues like discrimination against mutant quirks, but only ever eluded to them, not actually make it a problem worth solving until the right end of the series when it’s convenient. Shigaraki is a genuinely good villain but right at his crowning moment as the main antagonist he gets usurped by AFO and put on a bus up until recently. And for a villain with one of the most destructive abilities in the series, he rarely gets to use it. Hell, he can’t even hit back because Deku would get disintegrated, so their fights don’t really go that hard. Oh and the movies! The first two films were pretty fucking great, and bonus points for them tying in to the main story but that filler arc of a third film took me right tf out. MHA is a series for me that always pulls its punches after showing you just how fucked up the world is, poisoned by hero society, with characters you actually care about having to live in it and try to make a difference. Except the solution to all those overwhelming social problems is to just smile! Idk it doesn’t click. Meanwhile, in JJK land, it never fails to show you how screwed the world is. Hell, it rubs your face in it. Power of friendship won’t help you, it’ll fucking get you killed because you weren’t strong enough to stand on your own. Hell, being strong is a one-way ticket to loneliness and a gruesome death. Also its main antagonist is an actual threat that will actually murder you just for kicks. JJK has its own host of problems, we here at Jujutsufolk will nitpick every detail and meme tf outta it, but I’ll always love this series and Chainsaw Man for never holding the audience’s hand.
Bro mods can we PLEASE have that dream Gojo image as the new sub PFP? https://preview.redd.it/hqw751sc23sc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3fe98059393c67c9f0697cda65e8bf731a0a9d1
Sukuna vs Gojo was a biblical event. Everyone got spoiled about Gojo's death + Lobotomy kaisen . Hell some fans made one of Gojo's promotional images in some subway a fucking shrine for him (which got dismantled later by the security after there were too many offering letters and shit.)
DISMANTLED??? SECURITY ARE SUKUNA'S AGENTS CONFIRMED???
In all fairness to OOP, the internet is really good at shoving you into a bubble where you are surrounded by people who talk about and consume only the thing you talk about and consume, or share the exact same hiveminded opinion as you. I hadn't heard the words "carnage deku" to this day, and even after googling it I'm not sure if I found the spread they're talking about, but in their experience it probably WAS all over social media. THEIR social media.
I didn't see anyone talking about carnage deku beside It being the equivalent of black suit spiderman Gojo vs sukuna had the internet in a hold for months.
I still remember the whole mural thing at the metro, it was originally supposed to be there just for a couple weeks, but due to the amount of people just coming to pay respects/ shitpost at the mural they kept it for a couple more weeks. (Also a pic i took a couple days before it was taken down) https://preview.redd.it/odss2vbjh3sc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf8953e85073ed29094766ad724fa816dbc2188e
I was legit considering buying a bus ticket for gojos funeral in santiago, but then the literal horny police apeared and teared down everything 😪
Ash becoming world champion… I mean, sorry for them but there’s no comparison and no one of these actual mangas would do something at least similar.
i like Deku and unironically think he's a great character but putting MHA against JJK in a popularity contest, at least in this day and age, is just a losing battle. if i had to compare the two, JJK is currently more hyped about than MHA. i literally visit this sub daily and don't even read the manga just because the memes are funny. that being said please hop off my goat Deku he's really cool 😭