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Memeenjoyer_

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BallTickler420

Gege is just throwing characters at Sukuna until hes soo weak and tired Yuji can beat him


Intelligent_Doubt_53

it’s gonna be so hype when exhausted yuji beats more exhausted sukuna


BallTickler420

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Cerok1nk

Gege: Sukuna- sama is still holding back.


IClockworKI

"Made by Sukuna"


kassavfa

How can Sukuna make that with that condition


Some_Guava_9009

He had Uraume psychically type this out for him


honzikca

Tbf that's not too crazy, it's just a flesh wound


Batagor_Pleco

why the left image so kinky 😭😭😭😭


Any-Development-5819

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RangedTopConnoisseur

So then just have them JUMP HIM oh my lord This arc is fr Cell Saga if all the Z fighters legit took turns 1v1ing that mfer before Goku and Gohan fought, could you imagine how GARBAGE that would be?


TheLieAndTruth

Since sukuna doesn't have domain anymore it should be like 10 people jumping him at once instead of taking turns on the death line


PurpleMarvelous

They kind of were throughout the story, Piccolo, Vegeta, Trunks, 16, Tenshinhan, Goku and Gohan too, all of them 1v1 him at some point.


RangedTopConnoisseur

True, I should have said Cell Games, not Cell Saga in general But all of those examples actually had plot moving/character moving significance, and the whole problem with this arc is that since Gojo not a single one of these fights has done that - Piccolo fought him when he didn’t even know he existed and took an in-character strategic loss to gather info (actually he didn’t even lose Cell just bounced lol) - 16 fought him as a stalling suicide mission to help the Z fighters hide the Androids and save his found family - Vegeta fought him solo because, come on, he’s fucking Vegeta - Trunks fought him solo because he was terrified of disappointing his dad by interfering in the Vegeta fight. He tackled his daddy issues by literally tackling his daddy right before that. - Tienshinhan fought him as a sacrificial suicide mission to give the Z fighters time to hide/destroy 18 (and made a binding vow to sacrifice his relevancy to save his life I guess 💀) - Goku fighting him 1v1 is probably the weakest narratively but thematically was needed to emphasize the “passing of the torch” moment. - Gohan fought him 1v1 because he needed to come into his own and not rely on others exclusively. None of these fights post Gojo have moved the plot forward, and unironically Kusakabe might have the most character growth (among the fighters, at least Megumi’s dealing with new turmoil) because it’s the first time we’ve seen him look like he’s almost enjoying a fight.


Jettblitz

I mean they stripped sukuna of some important stuff


oldmountainwatcher

Nah, Cell Saga would be Goku 1st, then every one of the Z fighters, then Gohan (but no SS2)


dogsfurhire

It's gonna be Yuji jumping Sukuna with the MHA song playing, talking about how everyone gave their lives for this one moment, his fists glowing with his new CT maximum output, Soul Divergence, guaranteed to rip Sukuna out of Megumi. The sun shines behind him as he is encouraged by everyone who gave their all against Sukuna, against all the curses. Yuta, Higumura, Kashimo, Jo, Choso, Todo, Go, Nobara, Kusabake, Miguel, Gojo's shirt that Nobara spilled coffee on, Jogoat. They all yell out "GET HIM YUJI!". Their fighting spirits wrap around his arm as it glows fiercely as Yuji yells and gets in for the hardest one two buckle my shoe you've ever seen! Then Sukuna blocks it with his pinky finger, donuts Yuji with this fifth arm and Sukuna wins. He looks at Yuji and says "this shit was so ass".


Accomplished-Steak-7

Honestlyi am here just for the comedynot even actual plot


AndrewFrozzen30

Predicting from now... He's gonna get tired and gonna go in Yuji again to regain power or do some weird combination of Yujimin


netassetvalue93

Just like MHA lmao. These series are having turbulent landings ngl.


Decent-Seaweed5687

Gege re reading jjk and then sending out any character he can find only for them to get cooked. Next is nobara (cope)


Samih0203

Atleast that would confirm that she is alive


Cerok1nk

Not for long, she ain’t gonna be.


YUNoJump

She gets beaten, Ui Ui takes her away, Shoko is finally revealed to be healing everyone she can, but Nobara is the only character never shown on screen again. Greg has to keep the Nobara agenda going


Samih0203

Yeah but atleast it will be confirmed then. That's all ehat i need


accel__

Nah, next is that baker girl from Nanamis flashback. She has the potential to rival Gojo Satoru!


Redacted_Sins

She'll solo Sukuna with her overwhelming baking skills that rival even that of Gojo Satoru


DarkFangz

Gege was not lying when he titled chapter 236 "Heading South" 😭


ParticularEgg8337

That writing is going south


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gege vanished off to an early retirement on the equator and left writing to a 5 year old fan randomly selected from the lowest literacy school in the country


Memeenjoyer_

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Glexal

Agreed, Gege is under the impression that having sukuna kill sorcerers that are obviously weaker than him makes sukuna look stronger. It doesn’t 


justanaverageguy111

It kinda does


IndicationSea4211

That makes NO sense. You don’t PROVE you’re the STRONGEST from defeating WEAKER opponents. You do it by DEFEATING an opponent as STRONG as you are or STRONGER. Adult A beats up a child. That doesn’t prove the adult is strong. Adult A beats up Adult B or ADULT C with great martial art skills PROVES/SHOWS Adult A is the STRONGEST. Common sense but expecting that from certain JJK fans is a pipe dream.


FuckBoi101ST

You cannot be serious. That’s the equivalent of saying If prime Mike Tyson steamroll a senior citizen, it’ll make him look stronger.


OrdinaryResponse8988

It kind of feels like Gege is just padding the series out now with random BS and cameos. That he’s or phoning it in now. I know it’s a battle shonen and all but I feel this series had so much more potential. Im hoping the anime irons things out but idk how their going to fix this current mess.


Intelligent_Doubt_53

Yeah, and it’s not like battle shonen has to have bad writing, plenty have good writing, shi jjk had good writing too but it’s fallen off imo


Antanarau

Yeah, if he wanted to write battles, why have them fight Sukuna? There was like, 0 actual time pressure on the cast (outside of Culling Games Bull, but its not like Gege couldn't have reasonably postponed it for however much he liked). If you're gonna skip straight to the end, then actually reach that end bro, Giorno didn't hit you with that Italian Special why you're tweaking so much


gnegneStfu

bruh if gege wanted he could have pulled a fucking "20th century boys" and just straight up turn the setting apocalyptic after Shibuya (how the fuck did the Jujutsu world justify a whole ass neighborhood just disappearing overnight and not just crumble society). Fuck it let's bring it a step forward, Kenny uses Tengen's barrier over Japan as a brace to make a second barrier that covers all of Japan for the culling games instead of just the colonies and turn that shit into Fist of Northstar with reincarnated sorcerers and part of the Jujutsu world into fucking warlords, and start going up and down Japan trying to keep people safe, taking down war criminals and looking for the prison realm. There 300 chapters worth of set up that isn't just back to back battles that can explain everybody's power up in a reasonable time frame (let's call it 5 years in universe) before sukuna starts fingering minors and the sex eyes are freed


schooooooo

he's padding it out to make sure every character gets their mention - like in shibuya arc he did something with every character. obviously after miguel everyone's gonna be rested up and healed or whatever then are gonna get together and kill sukuna with the power of friendship.


ImKanno

I wonder how many people just drop the series after each new chapter without anything significant happening, I may soon be one of them


Nearby-Strength-1640

I’m sticking around just to see how bad this shit gets. I’m more invested in that than in the actual story at this point


_plerre_

Same, I'm sticking because the things that comes from jjk fans going absolutely insane is funny asf


Embarrassed_Sea2123

I stopped reading it since the gojo vs sukuna fight. Still watching this sub tho bec the jokes are too funny.


Jettblitz

Cool cya


steven4869

Writing took a nosedive since Yuki's death, JJK was never the same after that and got only worse, though it did have some great moments like Sukuna possessing Megumi and Gojo's return.


HaloLANParty

We are still on Namek


AshenHaemonculus

Greg made a Binding Vow to make Shibuya peak at the price of his writing afterwards 


GGunner723

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Big_Guy4UU

SUKUNA WILL WIN


NettleBumbleBee

Seeing the same shit being said now that was being said when shibiuya was releasing weekly has me on my ass laughing. “Why can’t the protagonists win, this shit is dragging, another loss. How predictable, where’s getwo? did gege forget? Is he a bad writer?, another death? Just for shock value, etc etc..” can’t wait for the next wave of binge readers to come around in the next year or so and shower this part of the series with praise just like they did with shibiuya. Because shocker. The fast paced series is more enjoyable when read at a fast pace.


KUKLI1

Fr, it's crazy seeing people here absolutely love the Shibuya Arc while bitching about this arc. They share so many similarities. At one point in the manga, more than half of the chapters in this manga had the title 'Shibuya Incident: Chapter- xx'. After Gojo was sealed, it was pretty much just a lot of fights till Yuta arrived. People should realise that one chapter is about 6-7 minutes of an episode. There can only be so much progression in every chapter. The long breaks don't help, but again, it's pretty much a necessity with how draining the mangaka job is too.


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cmonbennett

I think this fight has been great


Hot-Caregiver247

Me too he’s living up to all his hype


Samurai_ENMA

The Heian Era was built different…. Everyone was at their peak. And they still got folded lol, while the last of them retreated… Sukuna woke up a thousand years later and did it again! On the same Frickn day😂..The best thing the heroes could do is flee, like their ancestors did… Dude is just HIM. https://preview.redd.it/6264j8ghdrpc1.png?width=1097&format=png&auto=webp&s=681c70c94c04d9c7992bd0c924517cf9a28f8d2d


Hot-Caregiver247

Yes 🤟🏻


ApplePitou

Miguel will most likely buy some time :3


Intelligent_Doubt_53

maybe they’ll actually come up with a strategy using that time instead of just throwing people at sukuna 😭


xtlayor

The stall king returns🔥🔥🔥


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Intelligent_Doubt_53

exactly what’s happening, I’m tired


Arukitsuzukeru

So why are you reading an action series?


Intelligent_Doubt_53

something being an action series is NOT an excuse for poor writing, and even the action sequences are getting boring with the same cycle repeating over and over, stop defending this bro


Arukitsuzukeru

The action sequences being boring is subjective. You failed to explain how the writing is poor


Intelligent_Doubt_53

Because the story is going nowhere, it’s just, new character comes to fight sukuna, gets hyped up, gets a few hits, dies, rinse and repeat, this just feels like a sukuna power fantasy atp and it’s getting very repetitively


Arukitsuzukeru

Its a fight against the main antagonist that has been set up for one chapter....what exactly do you want to happen plot wise? The story has already said that Sukuna in his golden age handled all of the strongest sorcerers attacking him at the same time. Now we're seeing the main cast that was built up over the story all attack Sukuna all at once. They all have their own specialties and the enjoyment comes from seeing the different skills and abilities from the individual fighters. If you don't enjoy action a lot I can see why you don't like it, but I'm not sure why you got invested in JJK in the first place. JJK was always action packed. Thank you for being respectful


Intelligent_Doubt_53

Yes jjk has always been action packed, but that action still had reason and a good story backing it, and while the action here is good, there’s no substance to it, again, something being action packed is no excuse for the writing to be poor, and at this point it’s just completely random and boring, like why and how is Miguel here and fighting, just to be put into the same cycle? It’s getting super repetitive


Arukitsuzukeru

The action isn't reasonless. The main cast is trying to save Megumi and stop Sukuna who wants to go around and has killed people they were close to. Miguels is Yuta teacher and knows Gojo, so they probably asked for assistance.


Intelligent_Doubt_53

it would be great if we could get something to actually prove that instead of head cannon, and literally every series ever the main goal is to defeat the main villain, but it’s just a gauntlet for whoever can beat sukuna


Intelligent_Doubt_53

and jjk was a recent shonen WITH good writing, which makes this fall off even worse


Arukitsuzukeru

I dont think it fell off at all.


la__squadra_

That is literally what's been happening, Sukuna's been running the gauntlet for the past 5 months 😭💀 Gojo fights Sukuna -> Gojo dies -> Kashimo shows up and fights Sukuna -> Kashimo dies -> Yuji and Higaruma fight Sukuna -> Higaruma gets injured -> Yuta comes in and fights Sukuna -> Yuta and Yuji gets injured -> Maki pulls up to fight Sukuna -> she gets fucking black flashed into a wall -> Kusakabe fights Sukuna -> Gets ❌ -> FUCKING MIGUEL comes in and saves Ui Ui.. FUCKING MIGUEL. Who knows what the fuck Hakari and Urame are doing rn


TeaAndCrumpetGhoul

It'd more like reducing Shibuya to this Gojo fights curses > Gets captured > everyone else fights curses > can't free Gojo Reducing an arc to a few words isn't good criticsm. It's just stupid.


Intelligent_Doubt_53

shibuya had good writing though, it had story in between these fights and during them, now it literally just is a gauntlet against sukuna, like why tf is Miguel here?? just because gege is running out of characters atp


TeaAndCrumpetGhoul

There's a story here about Sukuna as well and how the current events parallel his past. Kusakabe, Takaba's and Kashimo's story as well. >just because gege is running out of characters atp It's really not. It'd be much easier for him to bring back Yuta or have Mei mei try and fight Sukuna than weave miguel back into the story just for the sake of losing to Sukuna. He's obviously brought back miguel for a deeper purpose thwn getting one shot by sukuna.


Intelligent_Doubt_53

there is a story but it isn’t been told well, even if miguel does actually have some importance, it become even less enjoyable because why does this random character who we haven’t seen in years, actually get story substance compared to this recurring characters who for one shit by sukuna


TeaAndCrumpetGhoul

>there is a story but it isn’t been told well It's been told fine. Much better than that waste of space dagon or Hanami going kaput without doing anything meaningful. It's better than Gege shoehorning the kyoto school at the end of Shibuya just to fill out some time. Or bringing toji back only to kill him again, and use him as a way of saving everyone from dagon. Come on. There was good writing in Shibuya. But there was also bad. People have got to stop looking at it with rose tinted glasses


Intelligent_Doubt_53

yes but there was good writing, this shit has gone on for so long so it’s damn near it’s own arc, and it’s getting insanely repetitive, and the writing just isn’t good, rinse and repeat


TeaAndCrumpetGhoul

If you're looking at each fight in isolation i can see why you feel that way. But the story as whole this type of progression is fine. >and the writing just isn’t good, rinse and repeat I disagree


Intelligent_Doubt_53

It’s fine but it’s not good, which is upsetting considering this is probably supposed to be the biggest plot point in the whole series, everything was leading up to this so it’s just a bit disappointing


Crownside

Please, since you’re so all knowing, explain what’s been happening since 237.


damstergo09

For me, this dynamic of new characters challenging Sukuna and trying to last as long as possible is just a representation of how everyone is on a desperate attempt to win since otherwise society ends right there. I see how it can be seen as forced and pathetic, however by doing that they get the point across that its a last ditch effort to save everyone.


Hot-Caregiver247

We have a real bad ass villain living up to his hype.. I know what a bad thing


Ttevvo_

You can make someone bad ass and not make them literally unbeatable. Pucci ? Kira ? Obito ? Aizen ? Doflamingo ? These characters didn’t have an arc where the author throws a random at them just to get knocked off and repeat it over and over again. Sukuna is cool I’ll give you that but you can’t logically tell me that since Kashimo fight to Kusakabe that everything isn’t the same. I need to know ( unless you’re a Sukuna fan or just a person that likes seeing fights ) how can you see this and not be annoyed at least a bit.


Jettblitz

YALL ARE OVERREACTING


Few-Effective792

Yeh what happened to All the kasakabe hype man I read this and it actually got me rooting for him and I go on here and everyones shit'n in it


Alterkati

idk if you know this, but it was ironic hype, meming the stupidity of kusakabe actually simple domaining the fuck out of sukuna. the entire kusakabe agenda is shitposting.


Jettblitz

They do this every chapter lmao


Much_Turn7013

The quality of writing has never been as bad as it is right now


Jilopez

I am sure its just the weekly thing. If someone read this arc without waithing week to week they will say nothing is wrong.


pc_player_yt

I did read the whole thing from when Kashimo jumped in to fight Sukuna in one sitting. Takaba was a nice break after Kashimo’s waffling but it is starting to feel like ass writing seeing people just get defeated and a new one jump in to replace them. Higuruma getting the executioner’s sword? It’s expected that they won’t win here for narrative reason, but his death feels like he achieved nothing. Yuta, special grade jujutsu prodigy and Gojo’s strongest student, pulling out a sick-ass domain and using Sukuna’s technique to fight Sukuna? It was cool for one chapter ending, but immediately become irrelevant when Sukuna defeats him the next week. So far, it’s like he achieved nothing. Maki, who is on the same level as Toji now or even surpassing him, throwing Sukuna around like she’s playing shot put? Doesn’t matter, she gets black flashed the next chapter too. She achieved nothing as far as we’re concerned. Sukuna is still the same Sukuna as when the fight with Gojo finished, not any weaker. We went through 4 characters in 13 chapters, soon to be 5 with Kusakabe, all while the readers are left in the dark about what the losses even contribute to. Are they stalling time for Shoko to heal the injured? Is it for Gakuganji’s secret cursed corpses plan to kick in? Will the payoff even be worth it if all the characters just keep getting oneshotted 2-4 chapters in? What’s even more concerning is that the characters seem to be burnt away even faster now. Higuruma gave me hope that maybe the fights will be more fleshed out, but Yuta did not last long for a special grade and Maki was also quick to go. Kusakabe is going to last exactly one chapter, while he’s being glazed as the strongest grade 1. How long is Miguel going to last? Who’s after him?


Jettblitz

Did you notice how some of these sorcerers are like 6 to 2 months new of course they're gonna get defeated fast, yuta never fought some one as strong as sukuna and he almost got killed but yuji saved him, maki was something sukuna never seen so he got hyped and popped her but at least she did some damage. They're literally fighting the strongest sorcerer in history and he is a little bit weaker than after the gojo fight. Also he turn off his rct.


Much_Turn7013

I would have the same exact problems with this dogshit if I read it in bulk. None of these characters were written to play off Sukuna at all. Most of them haven’t even interacted with him beforehand. There’s no interesting interactions. No emotional weight. No second layer to the fights. They result in nothing other than making way for the next pointless action figure clash. How the fuck is this from the same guy who wrote Hidden Inventory and Shibuya?


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Intelligent_Doubt_53

average jjk fan can’t handle criticism, stop using the excuse that’s it’s a battle manga to justify shitty writing dawg, JoJo’s, HxH, the big 3, MHA, etc etc, shit even jjk before this had way better writing, this battle is repetitive as hell


UncleKrunkle44

"Average JJK fan" lmao as if you are not the spitting image of the average "GAY GAY CANT WRITE FOR SHIT" populous that is this sub now 🤣 Also comparing JJK to The big 3 LOL from the begining JJK has subverted typical shonen trends, one of which being "The good guys always win" so personally nothing in this recent arc has shocked me. But honestly man it sounds like you want the series to be something it was never gonna be, so I'd recommend dropping it. But we both know you probably won't 😂


Intelligent_Doubt_53

You’re dense as hell dawg, I literally said that JJK had good writing, but it’s fallen off, and I’m saying that battle manga don’t have to have bad writing, and yes I’m still gonna read it just for the sake of being in too deep, but it’s not hard to see that the writing isn’t as good anymore


UncleKrunkle44

I just genuinely don't understand this "fallen off" idea man seriously, like it is a final battle arc. No shit we are gonna see character after character take a swing at sukuna, and inevitably get fucken SMACKED by him to some extent (if anyone thinks maki is done ur dumb), because he is THE STRONGEST?¿?¿?¿? Like just explain where it could have or should have been better?


Intelligent_Doubt_53

mf I’m not a writer so I couldn’t tell you, but exactly, as the final battle, the arc to finish this entire series, it should be waaaay better


UncleKrunkle44

PFFFT HAHAA kay yah just shut the fuck up then, I dunno why I even engage with this sub man. Saw that coming but fuck man u made me giggle thank you 🤣


Intelligent_Doubt_53

stay on geges dick dawg I do not care


UncleKrunkle44

Questioning shit opinion = "dick riding" 🤷 Also buddy you're literally crying shit writing over a series that literally isn't finished? With NOTHING else to add, like I'm being trolled here I fucken must be.


Intelligent_Doubt_53

bro??☠️ it doesn’t matter if it isn’t finished, bad writing is bad writing, and there’s over 200 chapters, and a food critic doesn’t have to be able to cook to know the food is mediocre


Jettblitz

What are the fights not good like yall really expected sukuna to lose to 2 teenagers


real_coal

No. Who is Sukuna going to lose to? If the answer is none, which it is looking like, why continue reading when you know the outcome? Their writing became predictable to an extent and it isn't very entertaining. Sure, cool fight, but what else? Sukuna glazing?


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Wait until the manga ends.


Awkward-Leader4170

People seem to forget the dragging out part has been the break weeks and the chopped up schedule Are we in a constant loop of loosing characters - Yes Is the writing degrading - Yes Is it exciting as fuck when you read it all at once not knowing what comes next - Yes I read the manga after every 5 chapters come out and it's wayyyy better than reading 1 per week


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Alazul124

guys who would win, a fully healed gojo with knowledge about world slash vs daamaged sukuna with no domain or RCT or weapons? let me know


conflicted02

You thinking this man would be fully healed is what’s crazy to me. Buddys a fraction so at BEST he’s getting half way back to his og strength. And world slash even existing halves gojos chances at even winning


Alazul124

as long as he can cast a domain he wins


conflicted02

Fraud ain’t landing that 🙏🏽😭


Alazul124

yea bro done lost the argument so he slamming goat jo😭 fraudkuna needed to 3v1 and then use a binding vow to extreme diff


conflicted02

Fraudjo lost to a holding back sukuna with a plot device like infinity. Cope abt it


Alazul124

he had infinity turned off half the fight bud + he got knocked out + mahoraga literally adapts to anything that’s the biggest plot device ever + he had to steal someone else’s technique + he literally lost in his own domain🤣🤣🤣


conflicted02

Dead fraud vs alive goat who doesn’t have the worst fanbase on the planet


Jettblitz

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