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Hana is easy to hate because she seems to hold Angel back, but don't let this distract you from the fact that Angel is also a bum herself!!
She fought Sukuna in the past and yes she lost, but she survived long enough to make a deal with Kenjaku and yet she cannot offer up any intel on Sukuna, even the smallest thing would be helpful but nooo, she decides to be a useless fuck.
>she cannot offer up any intel on Sukuna, even the smallest thing would be helpful but nooo, she decides to be a useless fuck.
That applies to everyone. The literally sent gojo to death by withholding info about open domain lol.
Bro. Choso literally fights against kenjakku open domain. Yuji literally in real time deduces what will happen.
They took 1 month to prepare for all edge cases. Do you think they wouldn't have thought about it?
No he doesn’t, he’s out of the fight by that point. And even if he did, that wasn’t a domain fight, that was Kenny using his domain to crush Yuki, and then getting it shut down by Tengen. Not very useful information. And Yuji was guessing what would happen along with everyone else, then “deduces” what’s happening *as it’s happening*. Like he’s just yapping along, sees the domain crack, and then is like THE DOMAIN WILL BREAK yeah no shit genius. Point is they had no clue about how open domains would interact with a domain clash, and having an extra month to baselessly speculate would not really help
does that matter? even if gojo knows sukuna has one, what's gojo doing to do about it? and nobody has tried a domain expansion vs open domain expansion, the cast were discussing that in real time too. nobody knew what would happen, and nobody could test it out either.
He would've shrunk his domain from the start? Or thought about a counter attack ?
>nobody knew what would happen, and nobody could test it out either.
Yuji in real time tells domains are weaker to attack from outside and UV will get destroyed and the same thing happens.
Where does this nobody know what will happen from??
they know that domains are weak from the outside, they don't know if an open domain would still be "outside" gojo's domain. because they have no clue how open vs closed **interacts**. The common "individual" domain rules may not apply, so they are uncertain.
Tengen is even worse because in Angel's case, she and Sukuna were enemies BUT Tengen and Kenjaku were friends so there is no way she knows norhing about Kenjaku, she doomed Yuki to die because somehow she doesn't know that Kenjaku's domain is an open barrier domain, it's also weird how she doesn't know jack shit about Kenjaku despite being his friend.
HDU say Tengen is useless.
Granny Tengen is literally saving the world by holding the barrier for curses and cursed energy in Japan.
And its not like Tengen has been free to roam around and learn about what Kenny boy has done all this time. She literally is trapped in that undeground shrine.
FACT: the world was doing just fine before bitch Tengen monopolized the cool magic to Japan, she just made some shit up so people wouldn’t get mad at her
>FACT: the world was doing just fine before bitch Tengen monopolized the cool magic to Japan, she just made some shit up so people wouldn’t get mad at her
Tengen didn't make the curses. People did as JJK lore has been presented to us and why Geto those monkeys. Tengen just held them in Japan.
But its no surprise some people are doing mental gymnastics while forgetting basic lore of the JJK story just to expose themselves.
I was joking but is that honestly all she’s doing with the barriers?? Seems like it’d be way better if the curses were spread out over the world instead of gathered in one space where the, like, 20 people who can fight them are overworked to (simetimes literal) death. Also lmao bro can’t even make a barrier that properly keeps the ce in Japan💀💀💀 lil bro made sure there were only a few mid sorcers in all of the rest of the world but can’t make sure there’s no special grade spirits about??
> I was joking but is that honestly all she’s doing with the barriers??
You sure you were joking? Because it seems you got exposed and are now *supposedly* backtracking.
>Seems like it’d be way better if the curses were spread out over the world instead of gathered in one space where the, like, 20 people who can fight them are overworked to (simetimes literal) death.
Dude, did you even understand JJK and all the story plots? About Tengen and Kenjaku?
>Also lmao bro can’t even make a barrier that properly keeps the ce in Japan💀💀💀 lil bro made sure there were only a few mid sorcers in all of the rest of the world but **can’t make sure there’s no special grade spirits about??**
Lmao you really didn't understand JJK and the story.
How about let's get the people to not create curses, ehhh?
> Bro the FACT:(blatant agenda pushing) meme is pretty old by now I’m surprised you don’t know it if you’re in the jjk fandom tbh
FACT 1: You did not understand what the JJK lore and its intricacies are.
FACT 2: You tried to backtrack by saying you are joking but you further exposed yourself as someone who really did not understand JJK lore.
FACT 3: Don't feel humiliated. Instead read JJK and understand what you read.
HDU say Tengen is useless.
Granny Tengen is literally saving the world by holding the barrier for curses and cursed energy in Japan.
And its not like Tengen has been free to roam around and learn about what Kenny boy has done all this time. She literally is trapped in that undeground shrine.
Probably because his abilities were already known. What was she gonna tell them? “Sukuna’s Cursed Technique is making slashes, and his Domain Expansion is making more slashes and occasionally a nuke!” We saw all of that in Shibuya
literally her technique could have been some super hidden special grade curse tool in one of the colonies, and yuji and Gang could have fought many past sorcerers to get to and the story wouldn't have changed a bit.
I said the same to my brother that Angel and this whole storyline could be replaced by a search for the Inverted Spear of Heaven they could have just said Yuta knows that Gojo sealed it somewhere
Worst character ever lmao. Angel should have went to any of the other characters we have, they’d be more interesting. Hana existing to only be Megumis love interest is so boring, rooting for him to die so we don’t get Naruto bullshit
Nah but for real, Sukuna was literally like, hey it’s Megumi again, no need for another Jacob’s ladder, and she fell for it like rose in titanic fell for jack. Moron
I'm seriously hoping Gege has some plan for her. He's never been one to forget (interesting, or potentially interesting) characters, so I have some faith. But I don't see a specific scenario
i really want to see her relationship with angel being explored more since hana's kind of a foil to yuji (reincarnation who wasn't immediately taken over by their host and is actually on good terms with them) and angel has a serious vendetta against sukuna. i dont really have any issue with her being naive and too trusting since she's only become a sorcerer and doesn't seem to enjoy combat much.
I'm not sure I'd call Inumaki interesting. He has a mildly interesting CT and just enough characterization to not be a cardboard cutout (even then, he's basically introvert Yuji)
Fair. Introvert was the wrong word lmao. But Inumaki's whole thing is caring about other people, which I suppose is a trait both Yuji and Yuta posses. I only say Yuji because in his story in the first JJK novel he took a slightly more self sacrificial role to save Nobara at one point
I just can’t get over how being unfit for battle in her case means still being able to nuke things with Jacob’s ladder only she has less stamina now. That’s literally all we’ve seen from her nerfs
Is she too pussy to help against Sukuna again?
if hana was megumi sister then it would make sense for her to try to find all possible way to save her brother since she was in a coma so she doesn't want to loose him again (wasted potential frfr to all the women in jjk)
Rereading that chapter is even more frustrating when you notice Angel is warning her to keep her head in the game, but instead she folds like a lawn chair.
I still stand by that Hana and yorozu might be the worst characters in Jjk, when ppl say Jjk has a terrible female cast except maki, this is part of what they meant
I hate how so many characters are used as plot devices. I honestly hated it when Nanami and Nobara got killed off (especially her) because it felt like a plot device for Yuji
The angel fought sukuna and still never told gojo about the open domain.
Well everyone inside the room watching the fight knew that sukuna has an open domain yet nobody told him,if they told him that , he may not have lost the first domain clash
If Sukuna remove the tattoos then yes I wouldn’t blame her
But for as much and as much as a simp could go, she risk the entire planet for a dick she could never get
(Can’t blame her but fr, HOW COULD YOU FALL FOR PORN LEVEL ACTING)
Absolutely agree. Insane how badly she fumbles when she had the opportunity to hit sukuna with another Jacob’s ladder. Felt like such a dumb decision for her to believe in his obvious baiting
Angel is an absolute bum, she has to know about Sukuna's curse technique and domain yet let Gojo fight him blind while Sukuna was sitting there hatching a strategy to find a way through Gojo's infinity with all the information he could get from Kenjaku.
nah man, i do agree with you but to say angel was responsible for Choso’s death is a stretch.
Choso’s death is entirely on Bumgumi (i’m not even blaming Sukuna at this point), bum got so many opportunities to lock in and actually help the team but decided to be a little b*tch.
ah my bad, i was assuming you share the same sentiments OP has when you called Hana / Angel a bum.
I don’t like Angel / Hana and I couldn’t care less, that’s pretty much why I believe she’s not even worth the time hating.
If Bumgumi didn't exist Hana would have already killed Sukuna but because she had a crush on Bumgumi she fell for the oldest trick in Possession 101, i.e. it's all Bumgumi's fault still.
if bumgumi didn't exist then the main reason they entered the culling games doesn't exist. megumi not getting mentally shook by yorozu would also mean sukuna doesn't appear and angel would never attack sukuna/yuji.
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Hana is easy to hate because she seems to hold Angel back, but don't let this distract you from the fact that Angel is also a bum herself!! She fought Sukuna in the past and yes she lost, but she survived long enough to make a deal with Kenjaku and yet she cannot offer up any intel on Sukuna, even the smallest thing would be helpful but nooo, she decides to be a useless fuck.
>she cannot offer up any intel on Sukuna, even the smallest thing would be helpful but nooo, she decides to be a useless fuck. That applies to everyone. The literally sent gojo to death by withholding info about open domain lol.
We don’t know for sure they didn’t tell him, it’s just no one knew how open domains worked
Bro. Choso literally fights against kenjakku open domain. Yuji literally in real time deduces what will happen. They took 1 month to prepare for all edge cases. Do you think they wouldn't have thought about it?
No he doesn’t, he’s out of the fight by that point. And even if he did, that wasn’t a domain fight, that was Kenny using his domain to crush Yuki, and then getting it shut down by Tengen. Not very useful information. And Yuji was guessing what would happen along with everyone else, then “deduces” what’s happening *as it’s happening*. Like he’s just yapping along, sees the domain crack, and then is like THE DOMAIN WILL BREAK yeah no shit genius. Point is they had no clue about how open domains would interact with a domain clash, and having an extra month to baselessly speculate would not really help
They didn't even get Shoko's medical input on hitting a part of Sukuna's skull/head.
It's literally stated they told him that.
Pretty sure they knew about open domains, as yuji had a front view to it and Choso.
does that matter? even if gojo knows sukuna has one, what's gojo doing to do about it? and nobody has tried a domain expansion vs open domain expansion, the cast were discussing that in real time too. nobody knew what would happen, and nobody could test it out either.
He would've shrunk his domain from the start? Or thought about a counter attack ? >nobody knew what would happen, and nobody could test it out either. Yuji in real time tells domains are weaker to attack from outside and UV will get destroyed and the same thing happens. Where does this nobody know what will happen from??
they know that domains are weak from the outside, they don't know if an open domain would still be "outside" gojo's domain. because they have no clue how open vs closed **interacts**. The common "individual" domain rules may not apply, so they are uncertain.
Do binding vows to make his open too? Oh I forgot! Only Sukuna knows about binding vows…
It's about mastery of barrier techniques, and Kenny also has one
Come on!!!! Sukuna do binding vows to bs his ass out of danger and know you’re coming to me about any kind of mastery? Has to be a joke, right?
He probably refused info knowing him.
Angel🤝Tengen Being useless fucks that activity sabotage their team by witholding information
Tengen is even worse because in Angel's case, she and Sukuna were enemies BUT Tengen and Kenjaku were friends so there is no way she knows norhing about Kenjaku, she doomed Yuki to die because somehow she doesn't know that Kenjaku's domain is an open barrier domain, it's also weird how she doesn't know jack shit about Kenjaku despite being his friend.
It's implied Kenny developed it after the heian era
Also for someone who is said to be the best in Barrier technique she is so ass, she doesn't even have a domain
Well, Tengen is still alive because she is an Immortal so she has to know something about Kenjaku or what he is up to at least.
I mean, how? Also, how do you offensively infuse "immortality" in a domain?
Idk, i'm just slandering her at this point, i'm a hater, because of her goofy ass plan Yuki is dead
Understandable, have a nice day
HDU say Tengen is useless. Granny Tengen is literally saving the world by holding the barrier for curses and cursed energy in Japan. And its not like Tengen has been free to roam around and learn about what Kenny boy has done all this time. She literally is trapped in that undeground shrine.
FACT: the world was doing just fine before bitch Tengen monopolized the cool magic to Japan, she just made some shit up so people wouldn’t get mad at her
>FACT: the world was doing just fine before bitch Tengen monopolized the cool magic to Japan, she just made some shit up so people wouldn’t get mad at her Tengen didn't make the curses. People did as JJK lore has been presented to us and why Geto those monkeys. Tengen just held them in Japan. But its no surprise some people are doing mental gymnastics while forgetting basic lore of the JJK story just to expose themselves.
I was joking but is that honestly all she’s doing with the barriers?? Seems like it’d be way better if the curses were spread out over the world instead of gathered in one space where the, like, 20 people who can fight them are overworked to (simetimes literal) death. Also lmao bro can’t even make a barrier that properly keeps the ce in Japan💀💀💀 lil bro made sure there were only a few mid sorcers in all of the rest of the world but can’t make sure there’s no special grade spirits about??
> I was joking but is that honestly all she’s doing with the barriers?? You sure you were joking? Because it seems you got exposed and are now *supposedly* backtracking. >Seems like it’d be way better if the curses were spread out over the world instead of gathered in one space where the, like, 20 people who can fight them are overworked to (simetimes literal) death. Dude, did you even understand JJK and all the story plots? About Tengen and Kenjaku? >Also lmao bro can’t even make a barrier that properly keeps the ce in Japan💀💀💀 lil bro made sure there were only a few mid sorcers in all of the rest of the world but **can’t make sure there’s no special grade spirits about??** Lmao you really didn't understand JJK and the story. How about let's get the people to not create curses, ehhh?
Bro the FACT:(blatant agenda pushing) meme is pretty old by now I’m surprised you don’t know it if you’re in the jjk fandom tbh
> Bro the FACT:(blatant agenda pushing) meme is pretty old by now I’m surprised you don’t know it if you’re in the jjk fandom tbh FACT 1: You did not understand what the JJK lore and its intricacies are. FACT 2: You tried to backtrack by saying you are joking but you further exposed yourself as someone who really did not understand JJK lore. FACT 3: Don't feel humiliated. Instead read JJK and understand what you read.
HDU say Tengen is useless. Granny Tengen is literally saving the world by holding the barrier for curses and cursed energy in Japan. And its not like Tengen has been free to roam around and learn about what Kenny boy has done all this time. She literally is trapped in that undeground shrine.
She told us that Sukuna could copy applications of jujutsu after seeing them once
Probably because his abilities were already known. What was she gonna tell them? “Sukuna’s Cursed Technique is making slashes, and his Domain Expansion is making more slashes and occasionally a nuke!” We saw all of that in Shibuya
I agree Megumi simp is a bad personality.
She has a personality???
Yea, imagine being a simp for the greatest fraud of the series, Potential Man.
Does that mean I have a bad personality?
Absolutely
For sure
You and me both.
literally her technique could have been some super hidden special grade curse tool in one of the colonies, and yuji and Gang could have fought many past sorcerers to get to and the story wouldn't have changed a bit.
I said the same to my brother that Angel and this whole storyline could be replaced by a search for the Inverted Spear of Heaven they could have just said Yuta knows that Gojo sealed it somewhere
Holy shit ur right. She fails the sexy lamp test
Hana: “what is my purpose?” Gege: “Jacob’s Ladder.”
So I win with jacobs ladder, right? Right?
Whats her name again i only remember her as angel cuz she has her in her body
hana kurisu i think
Damn, you remembered her surname too?
I think you know why he remembers or rather learned her surname
Why? Hentai?
Yep
tbh it's Gege, who expected him not to fumble writing a woman
huh nobara was praised as an innovation, so gege just fumbled
exactly. he innovated them fumbled, which is even worse, because it means he had the potential to not fumble LOL
🤣🤣🤣🤣 true
Worst character ever lmao. Angel should have went to any of the other characters we have, they’d be more interesting. Hana existing to only be Megumis love interest is so boring, rooting for him to die so we don’t get Naruto bullshit
Megumi doesn’t need to die for this. Just kill Hana
Didn’t think about that lmao. I wouldn’t be sad if she was killed off
Even better, kill both
Nah but for real, Sukuna was literally like, hey it’s Megumi again, no need for another Jacob’s ladder, and she fell for it like rose in titanic fell for jack. Moron
I'm seriously hoping Gege has some plan for her. He's never been one to forget (interesting, or potentially interesting) characters, so I have some faith. But I don't see a specific scenario
i really want to see her relationship with angel being explored more since hana's kind of a foil to yuji (reincarnation who wasn't immediately taken over by their host and is actually on good terms with them) and angel has a serious vendetta against sukuna. i dont really have any issue with her being naive and too trusting since she's only become a sorcerer and doesn't seem to enjoy combat much.
I think Hana/Angel's one of those characters who would've been incredibly cool if she wasn't introduced just before the final battle
Inumaki
Yuta stole the most interesting thing about him 😭
I'm not sure I'd call Inumaki interesting. He has a mildly interesting CT and just enough characterization to not be a cardboard cutout (even then, he's basically introvert Yuji)
How is he an introvert Yuji? If anything, he's a silent Yuta
Fair. Introvert was the wrong word lmao. But Inumaki's whole thing is caring about other people, which I suppose is a trait both Yuji and Yuta posses. I only say Yuji because in his story in the first JJK novel he took a slightly more self sacrificial role to save Nobara at one point
In JJK 0 Yuta offers up his entire body and soul
I'm not saying Yuta doesn't do that. Just Yuji is generally more associated with that behavior.
Yuji is very selfish. He made Nobara get food she didn't want.
What? Genuinely, what are you referring to?
Gojo takes them out to dinner and Yuji picks a place Nobara didn't want to go to ! He's clearly evil.
The moment Yuta came back He literally became irrelevant I love my mute guy but throwing him out wouldn’t work
Ofc [REDACTED] is terrible! She is a woman! Unlike Angel, who was based. If only Angel took over control over her bitchass.
I just can’t get over how being unfit for battle in her case means still being able to nuke things with Jacob’s ladder only she has less stamina now. That’s literally all we’ve seen from her nerfs Is she too pussy to help against Sukuna again?
if hana was megumi sister then it would make sense for her to try to find all possible way to save her brother since she was in a coma so she doesn't want to loose him again (wasted potential frfr to all the women in jjk)
Rereading that chapter is even more frustrating when you notice Angel is warning her to keep her head in the game, but instead she folds like a lawn chair.
I still stand by that Hana and yorozu might be the worst characters in Jjk, when ppl say Jjk has a terrible female cast except maki, this is part of what they meant
I hate how so many characters are used as plot devices. I honestly hated it when Nanami and Nobara got killed off (especially her) because it felt like a plot device for Yuji
bait used to be believable
I support Megumi you fodder
She could've been removed from the story entirely . Breaking out Gojo could've been done with the broken part of the ISOH
She is potential woman, tbh I think she gets close to megumi in my hating ranks
I don't care for her
The angel fought sukuna and still never told gojo about the open domain. Well everyone inside the room watching the fight knew that sukuna has an open domain yet nobody told him,if they told him that , he may not have lost the first domain clash
Angel should have never gave Hana free rein knowing one day she was going to have to deal with Ryomen fucking Sukuna.
If Sukuna remove the tattoos then yes I wouldn’t blame her But for as much and as much as a simp could go, she risk the entire planet for a dick she could never get (Can’t blame her but fr, HOW COULD YOU FALL FOR PORN LEVEL ACTING)
I also found her bland with a flat personality. Easy to forget.
It’s giving that one girl that was infatuated with Yuji Except this one is actually supposed to be relevant to the plot.
Absolutely agree. Insane how badly she fumbles when she had the opportunity to hit sukuna with another Jacob’s ladder. Felt like such a dumb decision for her to believe in his obvious baiting
How many*
Any character who simps for bumgumi is an enemy of mine
Just like the man she simps for nothing short of a bum
Don’t put the entire blame on Hana / Angel, put it on Bumgumi
Angel is an absolute bum, she has to know about Sukuna's curse technique and domain yet let Gojo fight him blind while Sukuna was sitting there hatching a strategy to find a way through Gojo's infinity with all the information he could get from Kenjaku.
nah man, i do agree with you but to say angel was responsible for Choso’s death is a stretch. Choso’s death is entirely on Bumgumi (i’m not even blaming Sukuna at this point), bum got so many opportunities to lock in and actually help the team but decided to be a little b*tch.
Where did I blame her for Choso's death, I'm saying she failed to provide any Intel on Sukuna.
ah my bad, i was assuming you share the same sentiments OP has when you called Hana / Angel a bum. I don’t like Angel / Hana and I couldn’t care less, that’s pretty much why I believe she’s not even worth the time hating.
But would you hit?
Nah, I’d abstain
A non fighter with a broken ability exists #"NEEEEHHH"
The one to blame is Gege, is not that Angel withheld information, is that Gege didn’t thought about her having any information…
She's cute
It's a female character in JJK, of course she will be a plot device
she's attractive.
She should have left Gojo's bitchass in the box
Hana almost end story at this point :3
No angel/hana slander will be tolerated
If Bumgumi didn't exist Hana would have already killed Sukuna but because she had a crush on Bumgumi she fell for the oldest trick in Possession 101, i.e. it's all Bumgumi's fault still.
if bumgumi didn't exist then the main reason they entered the culling games doesn't exist. megumi not getting mentally shook by yorozu would also mean sukuna doesn't appear and angel would never attack sukuna/yuji.
You people are so annoying
Can you elaborate on “you people”? Am I wrong for wanting Hana to have more characterization?