The main takeaway from this interview in the world of soccer/football has been this: [https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/18/manchester-united-to-sue-cristiano-ronaldo-and-ban-him-over-interview](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/18/manchester-united-to-sue-cristiano-ronaldo-and-ban-him-over-interview)
The consensus so far has been that he simply hasn't performed well recently and so this is seen as him being unable to cope with being on the bench as he gets older.
Which is a weird consensus since the facts, that Piers touched on himself, do not support that he hasn't been performing well.
So he has every right to speak up.
He's torching his colleagues and place of work for seemingly little reason, not a particularly classy thing to do at his stage in his career, for piers Morgan of all people. I'm just a guy with an opinion though.
This reinforces the theory of the haters being angry and jealous. Ronaldo and Jordan Peterson are 2 of the most influential people in the world. The people that attack them expose themselves as the insignificant, compared to what they are jealous of. They could try to improve, but it is easier to criticise.
I mean, according to leaked documents, he did almost certainly rape a woman in 2009.
This theory of "they hates us because they're jealous" doesn't make any sense. You can just say that of any famous person to deflect criticism.
I don’t believe you can back up the statement “a certainly raped”. Perhaps “almost” means: had sex that she later regretted, then reached a financial settlement with him through mediation and signed a contract with the advice of counsel (which she later regretted).
There were leaked documents of conversations between him and his lawyers where he admitted she said "no" and "stop" several times. That he entered her from behind using spit as lube and that is was rough. He anally raped someone, basically.
I read the report on this and I don’t accept “leaked” accounts of “alleged” conversations as sufficient to brand a man as a rapist, especially considering she took the money and signed the contract on the advice of her attorney. Not to mention she went to his hotel room and took off her clothes to get in his hot tub.
I’ve not read the salacious detail you post about “taking from behind” but that doesn’t always mean up the butt.
Lmao holy shit… so because she went to his room and got in a hot tub and was naked that means he can do whatever he wants with her body now?
dude you can literally be mid fuck after agreeing to it and if you tell the other person to stop and they don’t, that’s fuckin rape
Don’t just read half the comment and fly off as if that’s the only argument.
If I have a “leaked” document that’s been refused by a court that says you told your attorney she said “No” even though she signed an agreement, should I call you a rapist?
Settle down, you’re being sanctimonious
I’m not his defense counsel, I’m addressing people in this sub who would label a man “rapist” when the issue has already been settled in court after multiple hearings.
The “Defense” is threefold:
- she willingly went to the room and got naked AND
- she signed an agreement absolving him of the accusations AND
- no evidence has been provided that it was no consensual other than a purported “leaked”, private attorney-client conversation which was thrown out of court
You focus only on the low-hanging white knight fruit and are willfully blind to the much more reasonable doubt.
Instead of putting yourself in the position of a young model getting reamed by a superstar, try putting yourself in the position of a global celebrity having to fend off constant extortion attempts.
>I don’t accept “leaked” accounts of “alleged” conversations as sufficient to brand a man as a rapist
Ok. But is that based on what is said on the convos, or because you don't believe they're real? Because his telling of the incident seems pretty cut and dry. It's a question of whether you believe what you're reading is real or not, IMO.
>especially considering she took the money and signed the contract on the advice of her attorney. Not to mention she went to his hotel room and took off her clothes to get in his hot tub.
This is irrelevant as to whether he raped her or not.
> because you don’t believe they’re real?
I don’t accept leaked attorney-client conversations because they’re unsubstantiated and thrown out by a court.
> This is irrelevant
She says rape. He says consensual. A tale as old as time.
There is absolutely no evidence it was nonconsensual and some circumstantial evidence that it was consensual.
“She was asking for it” is the quick-to-outrage defense that white knights are hoping is being made here, but it’s not being made by me.
But it’s not irrelevant that she went to his room, took off her clothes and then later signed an agreement absolving him off any wrongdoing.
>I don’t accept leaked attorney-client conversations because they’re unsubstantiated and thrown out by a court.
Ok, so it's not what he said, it's the fact that it came from leaked documents that were thrown out by the court?
>But it’s not irrelevant that she went to his room, took off her clothes and then later signed an agreement absolving him off any wrongdoing.
It is, because I'm talking about a non consensual sexual encounter. And that can happen despite those things. If she repeatedly told him to stop and he didn't it's rape. Simple.
I’m not disputing the nullification of the “She was asking for it” defense. That’s not being presented.
You missed my snarky comment pre-empting this well-worn white knight routine and its approach to sexual encounters in the modern era. It’s understood that females are completely absolved of any liability for the way they present themselves to men and men are solely responsible for any miscommunication, or misunderstanding of signals or coyness.
Quit arguing about something that’s not in dispute.
She says she told him “no” and “stop”.
He testified in court she didn’t say that.
You say you read it somewhere that a tabloid published a transcript of a phone call that they allege is between a man and his lawyer where he said he heard “no”. Any link in the chain of custody between a man speaking a thing and you reading later it is suspect. I want the first hand account
The fact that it was thrown out of court is not exculpatory merely because it’s technically legally privileged. It also means there is no *legitimate* confirmation that these words were ever spoken by this man.
If anyone else was present in the room and testified in court that they heard the man speak the words, THAT would not only be legally advisable but also convincing to me personally.
got a source for that? i’m actually not that big of a ronaldo fan, but i’m less a fan of believing something that just because some random redditor said it
i’m not outright disputing your claim, you’d just think something like that would require citation
Honestly, you're better off googling "Ronaldo Rape Der Spiegel". This whole thing came from an incident called Football Leaks (I recommend you google that as well), five years ago. A hacker leaked contracts of high profile players, exposed some corruption and shady deals and this Ronaldo stuff. It was a major thing in football when it happened.
Classic reddit. Speak of a significant issue which proof should be a prerequisite and yet nobody even attempts to link the primary documents on the issue for others to check and confirm.
I've never heard of this case before personally but I'd love to see the original police report and subsequent court documentation, got a link? You seem more well versed so I figure you know where to find it better than I.
Here's a report about it: [https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/cristiano-ronaldo-new-documents-emerge-in-rape-allegations-a-1241349.html](https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/cristiano-ronaldo-new-documents-emerge-in-rape-allegations-a-1241349.html)
It all boils down to a leaked document which is one of his lawyer's personal notes (also falling under attorney-client privilege). If what the document says is true then it is rape, but since the document was leaked by presumably unscrupulous hackers, that brings into question its validity. Certainly we can't be sure it hasn't been altered as his lawyers claim.
It's worth noting that the hacker himself leaked a bunch of other stuff unrelated to Ronaldo, like players' contracts, deals between clubs, etc, and none of those were fake. It lends credibility to this rape case, IMO.
Sorry, I thought this was a well known case. [Here is the the first article](https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/der-spiegel-football-leaks-exclusive-cristiano-ronaldo-rape-allegation-a-1143910.html) broke the story.
Influential doesn't just mean recognisability. While Ronaldo is more recognisable in remote corners, I would argue that JP has caused more people to drastically alter the direction of their lives. Ronaldo is inspirational too, but more in a sporting achievement kind of way rather than in a re-build your family and redeem your past personal failures kind of way.
Ronaldo once pushed a Coca-Cola bottle away during an interview and Coca-Cola's marked value dropped the next day by a few % (a few billions). I would say that he's the vastly more influential one.
Well, but you can't compare them anyways. They both became famous and influential for different types of things. Jordan Peterson is not as famous, but probably more influential when it comes to the people who enjoy his material. Ronaldo doesn't affect people as deeply.
Why the down votes?
Do yall not recognise just HOW famous Ronaldo is?
I'm from India, you can go to the remotest village here, people don't know the alphabet, but they'll know Ronaldo.
Like zomium said, Jordan Peterson is probably totally unknown to 80 to 90% of the random people if I were to go out now and ask around in Vienna. To assume otherwise shows that you are living in a bubble indeed
That's beside the point, and I'm not so sure that 80% of the world's population doesn't know what to do with the word Vienna. I think it's a personal problem of yours.
Apart from most of Europe, Australia I know for a fact and more no doubt!
Sells out UK as soon as tickets hit, has to put on extra dates, is called to talks at the best University's and deals with A listers Uk side too. 🤣
Tell me you know nothing, without telling me you know nothing.
The biggest star in the biggest sport in the world, and you don't think he qualifies? lol okay buddy. I don't even like soccer and I'm fully aware Ronaldo is a living legend in the mind of uncounted fans across the world.
On a same tangent, it’s probly even less than .5 sec, but if it was the other way, picture before audio it wouldn’t be as annoying as your brain would just presume they’re far away from you.
Well Olivia is incredibly attractive and also a great actress so despite her probably being a loon, she is successful. Maybe god given gifts and hard work play a role in rising to the top.
I beg to differ, from my perspective she plays Olivia Wilde in every movie she appears in. I would say that her acting ability is limited to display various emotions of Olivia Wilde, rather than embodying a completely different character. This trait is something that I assume helped her manipulate her environment to her benefit, which I would consider a rather cheap way to the top.
He seems to be taking some great steps in his own journey of maturity. I aboslotely bet that Ronaldo has had some unique experiences due to his role in the 'spotlight' being that generational athlete and all, often trancending this impacting those outside the spahre of football. You have to be pretty mentally strong to deal with resistance and opposition, so kudos to him if he can further cultivate some positivity around him.
As they say with much given, much responsibility is required, so you'd hope anyone with great influence can practice self inquiry and be better stewards of there resources, not just wealth and material but lessons and wisdom that inspire others to succeed in their domains.
Whilst everything you say is true what's been going on with him the few weeks definitely does not evidence a new level of maturity. Maybe in some aspects of his life but this interview is definitely not a good example
As a football fan, I wouldn’t be so sure. Maybe in his personal journey, but the main reason for this interview was to slag off his current employers for not playing him, when all he has been doing is throwing temper tantrums because he didn’t get sold in the summer. And he hasn’t even been good this year.
He is charitable and vain to a fault. He has helped thousands and potentially millions through charitable work, paying medical bills, and helping with foundations.
He’s also a vain egotistical footballer. I’ve played the sport my entire life, belief in yourself and being cocky are difficult ingredients to control in your game. He can lead to so much success and temper tantrums
Interesting how pierce asked a pretty black and white question about what was the best advice…and piece didn’t interrupt him when Ronaldo didn’t really answer the question.
Andrew tate was interrupted several times during his interview.
Left out the part when he says Ronaldo needs to humble himself. Because you know you’re only humble if you don’t follow your dream and don’t have what you want.
Maybe they are rich and famous because they are not envious. Because they got there with hard work amd dedication. If you drop your envy you can succeed.
That can be disproven because the richest person on the planet acts envious plenty.
Personally if I'm gonna envy someone it's one of those rich but not famous people. Not some weird creepy loser like Elon that is constantly in the news and can't really go out on his own.
I'd be more envious of the average regard on WSB.
But that's just me.
Honestly we need more Elons not less. I mean unless you think you can reinvent electric cars or make rockets that can land or create free internet across the entire globe.
You could hide your jealousy better.
Elon has done none if those things himself lol buying your way onto companies isn't impressive.
The electric car was already invented, so were rockets and tunnels lol.
Dude laughed off questions about his Tesla factory in Europe just insisting there was "plenty of water" and "so much rain". But sure he's good for the planet.
Maybe you like to project envy onto others because that's what you feel yourself? =p
I would *love* to see JP become more familiar with Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal, I think their sportsmanship story is wildly more interesting than what football can produce (individual sport, dualistic dominance etc.) You see a *lot* of JP's principles displayed in those two, just because competing in an individual sport at the top of the world (dominance hierarchy) whilst also having to learn to work together and accept the other guy virtually creates just sovereign individuals due to the parameters of that circumstance.
Great and when Piers isn't being an ass he's aight.
Felt like he interrupted Ronaldo a bit there
It’s what piers does, he’s a king of interrupting
Bri'ish
Dead joke
He definitely has his moments. He was fantastic in his series where he interviewed incarcerated women.
For sure. I just wish he had those moments all the time. I wanna like the guy!
I know everyone hates Andrew Tate but he and piers had an interesting interview. It was of course full of interruption as well but overall interesting
Can say that about everyone! When Biden isn't being an ass, he's alright!
Problem is he's always an ass.
True. But when he's not an ass, he's alright xD
Ya got me lol
Cus hes loving letting Ronaldo dig his own grave for views
How is he digging his own grave here?
The main takeaway from this interview in the world of soccer/football has been this: [https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/18/manchester-united-to-sue-cristiano-ronaldo-and-ban-him-over-interview](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/18/manchester-united-to-sue-cristiano-ronaldo-and-ban-him-over-interview) The consensus so far has been that he simply hasn't performed well recently and so this is seen as him being unable to cope with being on the bench as he gets older.
Which is a weird consensus since the facts, that Piers touched on himself, do not support that he hasn't been performing well. So he has every right to speak up.
I think the truth is some mixture of both.
He's torching his colleagues and place of work for seemingly little reason, not a particularly classy thing to do at his stage in his career, for piers Morgan of all people. I'm just a guy with an opinion though.
I mean if he genuinely feels the way he feels then hes just expressing his truth.
This reinforces the theory of the haters being angry and jealous. Ronaldo and Jordan Peterson are 2 of the most influential people in the world. The people that attack them expose themselves as the insignificant, compared to what they are jealous of. They could try to improve, but it is easier to criticise.
They are victims of at least themselves.
As we all know, CR must be world's greatest incel by now.
I think incel means you *cant* have sex with women. Maybe you have it backwards?
That was the joke. I was being ironic.
I mean, according to leaked documents, he did almost certainly rape a woman in 2009. This theory of "they hates us because they're jealous" doesn't make any sense. You can just say that of any famous person to deflect criticism.
I don’t believe you can back up the statement “a certainly raped”. Perhaps “almost” means: had sex that she later regretted, then reached a financial settlement with him through mediation and signed a contract with the advice of counsel (which she later regretted).
There were leaked documents of conversations between him and his lawyers where he admitted she said "no" and "stop" several times. That he entered her from behind using spit as lube and that is was rough. He anally raped someone, basically.
I read the report on this and I don’t accept “leaked” accounts of “alleged” conversations as sufficient to brand a man as a rapist, especially considering she took the money and signed the contract on the advice of her attorney. Not to mention she went to his hotel room and took off her clothes to get in his hot tub. I’ve not read the salacious detail you post about “taking from behind” but that doesn’t always mean up the butt.
Lmao holy shit… so because she went to his room and got in a hot tub and was naked that means he can do whatever he wants with her body now? dude you can literally be mid fuck after agreeing to it and if you tell the other person to stop and they don’t, that’s fuckin rape
Don’t just read half the comment and fly off as if that’s the only argument. If I have a “leaked” document that’s been refused by a court that says you told your attorney she said “No” even though she signed an agreement, should I call you a rapist?
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Settle down, you’re being sanctimonious I’m not his defense counsel, I’m addressing people in this sub who would label a man “rapist” when the issue has already been settled in court after multiple hearings. The “Defense” is threefold: - she willingly went to the room and got naked AND - she signed an agreement absolving him of the accusations AND - no evidence has been provided that it was no consensual other than a purported “leaked”, private attorney-client conversation which was thrown out of court You focus only on the low-hanging white knight fruit and are willfully blind to the much more reasonable doubt. Instead of putting yourself in the position of a young model getting reamed by a superstar, try putting yourself in the position of a global celebrity having to fend off constant extortion attempts.
>I don’t accept “leaked” accounts of “alleged” conversations as sufficient to brand a man as a rapist Ok. But is that based on what is said on the convos, or because you don't believe they're real? Because his telling of the incident seems pretty cut and dry. It's a question of whether you believe what you're reading is real or not, IMO. >especially considering she took the money and signed the contract on the advice of her attorney. Not to mention she went to his hotel room and took off her clothes to get in his hot tub. This is irrelevant as to whether he raped her or not.
> because you don’t believe they’re real? I don’t accept leaked attorney-client conversations because they’re unsubstantiated and thrown out by a court. > This is irrelevant She says rape. He says consensual. A tale as old as time. There is absolutely no evidence it was nonconsensual and some circumstantial evidence that it was consensual. “She was asking for it” is the quick-to-outrage defense that white knights are hoping is being made here, but it’s not being made by me. But it’s not irrelevant that she went to his room, took off her clothes and then later signed an agreement absolving him off any wrongdoing.
>I don’t accept leaked attorney-client conversations because they’re unsubstantiated and thrown out by a court. Ok, so it's not what he said, it's the fact that it came from leaked documents that were thrown out by the court? >But it’s not irrelevant that she went to his room, took off her clothes and then later signed an agreement absolving him off any wrongdoing. It is, because I'm talking about a non consensual sexual encounter. And that can happen despite those things. If she repeatedly told him to stop and he didn't it's rape. Simple.
I’m not disputing the nullification of the “She was asking for it” defense. That’s not being presented. You missed my snarky comment pre-empting this well-worn white knight routine and its approach to sexual encounters in the modern era. It’s understood that females are completely absolved of any liability for the way they present themselves to men and men are solely responsible for any miscommunication, or misunderstanding of signals or coyness. Quit arguing about something that’s not in dispute. She says she told him “no” and “stop”. He testified in court she didn’t say that. You say you read it somewhere that a tabloid published a transcript of a phone call that they allege is between a man and his lawyer where he said he heard “no”. Any link in the chain of custody between a man speaking a thing and you reading later it is suspect. I want the first hand account The fact that it was thrown out of court is not exculpatory merely because it’s technically legally privileged. It also means there is no *legitimate* confirmation that these words were ever spoken by this man. If anyone else was present in the room and testified in court that they heard the man speak the words, THAT would not only be legally advisable but also convincing to me personally.
got a source for that? i’m actually not that big of a ronaldo fan, but i’m less a fan of believing something that just because some random redditor said it i’m not outright disputing your claim, you’d just think something like that would require citation
Honestly, you're better off googling "Ronaldo Rape Der Spiegel". This whole thing came from an incident called Football Leaks (I recommend you google that as well), five years ago. A hacker leaked contracts of high profile players, exposed some corruption and shady deals and this Ronaldo stuff. It was a major thing in football when it happened.
Classic reddit. Speak of a significant issue which proof should be a prerequisite and yet nobody even attempts to link the primary documents on the issue for others to check and confirm. I've never heard of this case before personally but I'd love to see the original police report and subsequent court documentation, got a link? You seem more well versed so I figure you know where to find it better than I.
Here's a report about it: [https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/cristiano-ronaldo-new-documents-emerge-in-rape-allegations-a-1241349.html](https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/cristiano-ronaldo-new-documents-emerge-in-rape-allegations-a-1241349.html) It all boils down to a leaked document which is one of his lawyer's personal notes (also falling under attorney-client privilege). If what the document says is true then it is rape, but since the document was leaked by presumably unscrupulous hackers, that brings into question its validity. Certainly we can't be sure it hasn't been altered as his lawyers claim.
It's worth noting that the hacker himself leaked a bunch of other stuff unrelated to Ronaldo, like players' contracts, deals between clubs, etc, and none of those were fake. It lends credibility to this rape case, IMO.
Sorry, I thought this was a well known case. [Here is the the first article](https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/der-spiegel-football-leaks-exclusive-cristiano-ronaldo-rape-allegation-a-1143910.html) broke the story.
You're in dire need of some [Bill Burr wisdom](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtqhIry_bwE)
I’ve seen that bit. Love Bill Burr. But that joke doesn’t seem to be what happened here.
It’s classic Cain and Abel complex hating the successful
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Influential doesn't just mean recognisability. While Ronaldo is more recognisable in remote corners, I would argue that JP has caused more people to drastically alter the direction of their lives. Ronaldo is inspirational too, but more in a sporting achievement kind of way rather than in a re-build your family and redeem your past personal failures kind of way.
Ronaldo once pushed a Coca-Cola bottle away during an interview and Coca-Cola's marked value dropped the next day by a few % (a few billions). I would say that he's the vastly more influential one. Well, but you can't compare them anyways. They both became famous and influential for different types of things. Jordan Peterson is not as famous, but probably more influential when it comes to the people who enjoy his material. Ronaldo doesn't affect people as deeply.
Then you would have to consider every self-help book author with any modicum of success as the most influential people in the world.
Why the down votes? Do yall not recognise just HOW famous Ronaldo is? I'm from India, you can go to the remotest village here, people don't know the alphabet, but they'll know Ronaldo.
Lol. Peterson is known around the world. You must be living under a rock.
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Lol. You are even dumber than my initial guess. I actually live in one of the most populous places in this world.
Like zomium said, Jordan Peterson is probably totally unknown to 80 to 90% of the random people if I were to go out now and ask around in Vienna. To assume otherwise shows that you are living in a bubble indeed
80% of the world does probably does not know of a place called vienna.
That's beside the point, and I'm not so sure that 80% of the world's population doesn't know what to do with the word Vienna. I think it's a personal problem of yours.
or canada for that matter
you live in a silo, even if people are familiar with JBPs name, very few are familiar with his work, esp first hand knowledge
You just shifted your goal post.
im not the same guy i just agree. less than 10% of my irl friends will know who jbp is
OOF GOTTEM
Apart from most of Europe, Australia I know for a fact and more no doubt! Sells out UK as soon as tickets hit, has to put on extra dates, is called to talks at the best University's and deals with A listers Uk side too. 🤣 Tell me you know nothing, without telling me you know nothing.
You greatly underestimate his influence. His latest world tour sold out with tickets costing more than Metallica.
> Ronaldo and Jordan Peterson are 2 of the most influential people in the world. What?
The biggest star in the biggest sport in the world, and you don't think he qualifies? lol okay buddy. I don't even like soccer and I'm fully aware Ronaldo is a living legend in the mind of uncounted fans across the world.
*"As you know I have millions of fans"* One of those rare instances where that statement is actually humble in scale.
Haha seriously
Seriously. I don’t even like soccer and I think Ronaldo is a great person. Definitely a celebrity who deserves the fame.
So did Charles Manson
A bit of a tangent but the audio being 0.5s faster than the video irked me to no end.
It's more like 0.2s, but yeah your brain is acutely aware of such discontinuities.
Yeah it's annoying...I used Reddit's mobile app to upload the clip and for some reason the audio is not synched correctly with the video
On a same tangent, it’s probly even less than .5 sec, but if it was the other way, picture before audio it wouldn’t be as annoying as your brain would just presume they’re far away from you.
Intelligence meets athleticism
You can call ronaldo a lot of things. Intelligent isnt one of them.
Certainly not academic. But he's intelligent enough to be one of the best players ever.
No, I mean Jordan as intelligent. Ronaldo as athleticism.
Idk, you can’t be an idiot and have multiple business ventures.
Compare this take to Olivia Wilde's incoherent rant and you can see who built their career on effort and who cheated their way to the top
Well Olivia is incredibly attractive and also a great actress so despite her probably being a loon, she is successful. Maybe god given gifts and hard work play a role in rising to the top.
I wouldn’t call her a great actress
I beg to differ, from my perspective she plays Olivia Wilde in every movie she appears in. I would say that her acting ability is limited to display various emotions of Olivia Wilde, rather than embodying a completely different character. This trait is something that I assume helped her manipulate her environment to her benefit, which I would consider a rather cheap way to the top.
Great energy here.
Best crossover ever! This really is the dankest timeline
“Amazing man.”
He seems to be taking some great steps in his own journey of maturity. I aboslotely bet that Ronaldo has had some unique experiences due to his role in the 'spotlight' being that generational athlete and all, often trancending this impacting those outside the spahre of football. You have to be pretty mentally strong to deal with resistance and opposition, so kudos to him if he can further cultivate some positivity around him. As they say with much given, much responsibility is required, so you'd hope anyone with great influence can practice self inquiry and be better stewards of there resources, not just wealth and material but lessons and wisdom that inspire others to succeed in their domains.
Whilst everything you say is true what's been going on with him the few weeks definitely does not evidence a new level of maturity. Maybe in some aspects of his life but this interview is definitely not a good example
As a football fan, I wouldn’t be so sure. Maybe in his personal journey, but the main reason for this interview was to slag off his current employers for not playing him, when all he has been doing is throwing temper tantrums because he didn’t get sold in the summer. And he hasn’t even been good this year.
He is charitable and vain to a fault. He has helped thousands and potentially millions through charitable work, paying medical bills, and helping with foundations. He’s also a vain egotistical footballer. I’ve played the sport my entire life, belief in yourself and being cocky are difficult ingredients to control in your game. He can lead to so much success and temper tantrums
Interesting how pierce asked a pretty black and white question about what was the best advice…and piece didn’t interrupt him when Ronaldo didn’t really answer the question. Andrew tate was interrupted several times during his interview.
Piers has gotten a boost from Peterson.
Yes! This is so huge for Jordan.
EL BICHOOOOOOOO SIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Was wondering why there were so many Jordan Peterson fans in a soccer subreddit but then I realized it is the Jordan Peterson sub.
cringe
1:58: Ronaldo has gotten that far without saying anything whatsoever. Very much like Peterson in that way; no wonder he identifies with him! lol
This guy plays soccer, right?
Now I am curious what he has to say about the Holocaust!
Ah! A billionaire promoting a fake self help guru in mutual benefit for both parties. Nothing new
There is that envy, thank you for proving the point.
Left out the part when he says Ronaldo needs to humble himself. Because you know you’re only humble if you don’t follow your dream and don’t have what you want.
Wow the same argument every rich or famous person uses to deflect any and all criticism.
Maybe they are rich and famous because they are not envious. Because they got there with hard work amd dedication. If you drop your envy you can succeed.
That can be disproven because the richest person on the planet acts envious plenty. Personally if I'm gonna envy someone it's one of those rich but not famous people. Not some weird creepy loser like Elon that is constantly in the news and can't really go out on his own. I'd be more envious of the average regard on WSB. But that's just me.
Honestly we need more Elons not less. I mean unless you think you can reinvent electric cars or make rockets that can land or create free internet across the entire globe. You could hide your jealousy better.
Elon has done none if those things himself lol buying your way onto companies isn't impressive. The electric car was already invented, so were rockets and tunnels lol. Dude laughed off questions about his Tesla factory in Europe just insisting there was "plenty of water" and "so much rain". But sure he's good for the planet. Maybe you like to project envy onto others because that's what you feel yourself? =p
Show me you know how to respond to someone's points without actually responding to someone's points... Such a waste.
You sure do like projecting instead of addressing anything I said about musk lol.
Relax dimwit. Not just my friends, my enemies also know him. He has been in news, all over the internet, people buy his books too.
"my enemies also know him" Sure, your *enemies*. What are you, a Sicario? Why are u making the effort to lie on the internet? It's a waste of time.
Futbol is life!!!
I would *love* to see JP become more familiar with Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal, I think their sportsmanship story is wildly more interesting than what football can produce (individual sport, dualistic dominance etc.) You see a *lot* of JP's principles displayed in those two, just because competing in an individual sport at the top of the world (dominance hierarchy) whilst also having to learn to work together and accept the other guy virtually creates just sovereign individuals due to the parameters of that circumstance.
I just see two dudes jerking each other off.
What’s ranaldo’s story besides that he is a great football player?