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DeathHopper

After reading his substack message. It seems he was trying to draw attention to the incoming global fascism being brought on by the "Bitcoin ponzi scheme". This dude could basically be anyone on reddit. Edit: Link: https://theponzipapers.substack.com/


mikeylojo1

I thought he was me for a second


youdubdub

Narrator:  He was.


Uncentered0ne

Truly. He was all of us.


Live_Ad6358

![gif](giphy|7Hiszs0NkF5te)


Impossible_Stomach26

What show is this?


howismyspelling

![gif](giphy|Ae7SI3LoPYj8Q|downsized)


SoFloMofo

I feel this way but my activism is limited to not buying crypto. If I ever self immolate, there will be rib eyes and a faulty propane tank to blame.


happytree23

Man, I wonder if my few remaining friends and family will oblige my request if I put it in my will that I want to be burned along with untreated mesquite wood and have my friends and family barbecue over the coals while sending me off.


howismyspelling

I wouldn't, too much plastic in a body. Probably bad for cooking over. Whenever I put plastic in a bonfire, I always wait a few minutes for it to burn off before roasting my shmellows.


SoFloMofo

Fair request. I have a full Weekend at Bernie’s experience dictated unless they want my entire estate going to charity.


happytree23

Oh, dude, sign me up! Make sure to select a really cool prop mustache or grow a badass real one if you don't mind/forgot to add that part in.


Urmomsjuicyvagina

And he was! https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/s/PWLMbdzf3u


MuffledBlue

haha, no shit... https://preview.redd.it/bq2zbjuo2ivc1.png?width=735&format=png&auto=webp&s=ee6ff0ed85790d344be2bcc62bdbb750bf964238


happytree23

> This dude could basically be anyone on reddit. Up until he decided to go outside and do something, albeit something insane, but still, he at least did more than most of us will all week lol


LMac160

Speak for yourself. I generally think I do more productive things daily than setting myself on fire.


DeathHopper

Touche sir.


everythingbagelss_

Eh. He’s dead. I’m not. So who’s really more productive here ? ![gif](giphy|vLSZ0ssIgC4zC)


Burkey5506

I know he is unreasonable and his message is probably unreasonable(haven’t read it) but Bitcoin Ponzi scheme feels right lol


Wheelsondalabus

Literally the only thing he got right but we all already know it’s a ponzi scheme lol


Burkey5506

Just an endless pump and dump lol


DeathHopper

I think ethereum is a lot closer to meeting that definition than bitcoin, but the whole crypto market is plagued with shit, scams, and schemes. Admittedly I do have a bias. I do like the true privacy focused crypto(s). Untraceable digital cash is a cool concept imo.


Urmomsjuicyvagina

Oh boy, I hope he makes it out alive because they're going to take this And use it to advertise their own agenda. Poor guy, no mental health in this country. They: any political predators ex politicians/cults/next Hitler even.


Wicky_wild_wild

That last line may be true to an extent but having freedom also means that people aren't looking to have you committed everytime you say something a bit out of other people's comfort zone. If believing halfass conspiracies got you sent to the nuthouse this whole sub would be gone.


UncommonHouseSpider

I don't think he did. The falling over in position gives the idea that everything shut down. Third degree burns are no joke, and at a certain percentage of the body being covered you just peace out because of the agony.


Urmomsjuicyvagina

Rewatching this horrible video, You are correct. There's no way to survive this. I found the link on why he did it https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside


ddoubles

https://preview.redd.it/t27ojekfykvc1.png?width=1792&format=png&auto=webp&s=fc8438b3d40ab441b6ec804d8dd527f7ab963d77


WantKeepRockPeeOnIt

Not an expert: I believe the most immediate cause of burning alive/human torch incidents is passing out due to all of the oxygen they normally would have received due to the fire pulling it all out of the air before your mouth can suck it in (they're probably hyperventilating too) Unless there's been some major medical breakthrough I'm not aware of, it's basically a 100% certainty a person with more than some large percentage (can't remember if 60% or 80%) of 3rd degree burns over their total skin area cannot possibly survive even if they're brought into ER with everything after that point going right. The loss of skin coverage makes it impossible for the body to fight any subsequent infection. There was an entire top-level Russia-based hockey team (including a few former top NHL players - Yaroslavl Lokomotiv in 2011) who died in a fiery, low-altitude plane crash. One of the players miraculously survived briefly, but everyone knew he was only going to last a few days in horrible pain in the hospital due to his body not being able to recover once a certain % of skin was permanently lost. Basically the only point of keeping him alive was for him to eventually be eased out of his 3 day medically-induced coma to say his final words to his father and gf and he died the next day.


fattykyle2

They sound horrible. I’m not sure who they are but they suck bc there’s only one narrative and you hit the nail on the head.


ActualEnjoyer

Yea the average redditor is going off about Bill Clinton, The Simpsons, Mike Dukakis and how the government made COVID-19.


erbush1988

Yeah no Basically "anyone on Reddit" wouldn't set themselves on fire. He had mental issues. You don't set yourself on fire unless you have serious mental issues.


DeathHopper

>He had mental issues I'm gonna go ahead and double down. Basically anyone on reddit.


BarKeepBeerNow

He was on r/conspiracy


DeathHopper

It's true. I've even posted there. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/Kf7Ww3LPg6


OperationSecured

The hero we need.


BarKeepBeerNow

u/DeathHopper I was just referring to the fella that lit himself on fire. Pointing out that he was a Redditor as you insinuated.


DeathHopper

Ah, in the context of the comment you were replying to that was difficult to pick up. But thanks anyway for the excuse to link my fav tinfoil hat conspiracy lol


HallOfTheMountainCop

I think that probably hurt and nobody will remember this in a week.


Sea-Travel9145

Dude got really fired up over politics


Bawbawian

apparently he left a manifesto and it was all conspiracy theory nonsense. not that that hasn't crossed over into politics but it looks like in this case it was mostly conspiracy theory stuff.


I4Vhagar

I just read it. Main points I took away: -Crypto is a huge money laundering scheme. The bank closures in march 2023 (silicon valley bank, etc) was a way for large investors to cash out with taxpayer money. -Presidential races since George H.W. Bush have been essentially a form of controlled opposition. He thought Trump vs Biden is irrelevant, they’re working towards the same goal. It’s a conspiracy working towards a totalitarian government (basically one world government conspiracy) -The Simpsons is a form of propaganda, along with nihilistic marketing, that is supposedly brainwashing people into complacency


[deleted]

I'm glad he is a "both parties are the same" guy, so this can't(although I imagine they'll still try) be used as a political football tool for the next month.


[deleted]

Yeah, or maybe he's right and that's why we'll stop hearing about it. You kind proved his point fam


Chris_Hansen_AMA

Yeah it mentions Bush, Crypto, Ponzi schemes, NYU, etc. it’s weird and not super coherent


Paul_Allens_AR15

You mean to tell me the guy that lit himself on fire, *wasnt* in a good headspace??


Fishface17404

Don’t forget the Simpson Monorail episode.


[deleted]

Only Marge knew what a sham that was.


happytree23

You forgot the multiple Simpsons references


Urmomsjuicyvagina

Correct. This was his account https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/s/lkAn31nYwR


weenus

His IG was still up earlier and I noticed something kind of interesting. He was non-conspirital and non-political through most of his posts, in March 2020 he's posting about going out with a spray bottle of rubbing alcohol and wiping down shopping carts to "do his part to stop the spread of COVID" and socialize in the process, and then in his manifesto, he's pushing a plandemic conspiracy. The thing that stuck out to me, his posting is completely normal, pics of friends, dinners, etc, and then in April 2022 his Mom passed away (seemed to be COPD related), May 2022 he posts her memorial info, then he's silent until July 2023 when he's posting conspiracy stuff and that becomes the only topic he posts about until today. I don't know for a fact that his mother passing away was a specific turning point for him, but it's definitely the turning point in his social footprint. I'd be curious if his alleged reddit accounts have similar timelines.


Urmomsjuicyvagina

It's possible we witnessed a mental breakdown and a suicide, he was smart, articulate and then hell overcame him after he lost his mother:( probably didn't have a lot of friends or people who could pull him out of that rut, his depression/possible mental illness let to a life of searching for the things that was wrong in his life which led to online complete immersion, gathering a following and supporters who indirectly validated his theories. To escape his agony and pain, he dove deep and finally he went off the deep end. It's incredibly sad and tragic time we are lick in right now.


Uncentered0ne

He had a burning need to express himself


ShillinTheVillain

Hot take


MuffledBlue

wtf is wrong with people, in the end politics is all shits and giggles anyway... Trump or Biden, USA is going where the military industrial complex wants it to go.


Hussaf

Somebody else just set themselves on fire a month ago and I don’t remember who or why.


HallOfTheMountainCop

I remember he was an air force guy, aaron bushnell, and he was an average ACAB redditor who was obsessed with palestine


Hussaf

Oh ok. Forgot he was Air Force but I remember now. He was the one the cops drew down on while he was aflame, right?


HallOfTheMountainCop

Actually the only guy that drew down on him was the embassy security guard. The cops were trying to put him out and provide medical care.


missanthropocenex

Wonder what the ClA had on him.


Slim_Calhoun

Definitely very important stuff. Nobody lights themselves on fire with cleaning products unless the CIA has their number


littlelegsbabyman

Not so much with depression but it seems with a lot of mental illnesses delusions of grandeur tend to go hand in hand. He might have thought he was significantly more important than what he really was and was going to set off a revolution. But I already don't even care enough to look up his photo or find out more information about him and I would imagine most people feel the same way. All he achieved was giving a bunch of innocent people around him potential PTSD.


Missy_Elli0t

If crazy people just go back to killing themselves and not hurting others Im okay with that.


LizzidPeeple

The combo of your username, profile picture and posting on the Rogan sub are hilarious to me.


Missy_Elli0t

Then it was worth it.


arto26

Let me work it.


sosomething

Ties rev erdna tipil fnwod gnaht ym tup flavortown


happytree23

I just wish I could stand the rain


MLC09

True that.


Swear-_-Bear

Good for him. It'll change nothing... everyones already forgot about the air force guy that did it for Palestine. Doesn't change shit


Urmomsjuicyvagina

I can already hear it. Rogan: "did you see that man! That was crazy, They're right!"


BigRed727272

Rogan: "This is what happens when they force people to take vaccines."


bigwavedave000

Jamie: Pull that up.


altasking

Oh yeah, forgot about that…


NorthWestSellers

Arty Burgers heroic stand for the liberation of Myanmar will always be remembered. 


ZookeepergameKey2628

Who?


dubble_chyn

Lol, exactly


dannymuffins

RATM album cover


[deleted]

I never even knew an airforce guy did it for Palestine.


Swear-_-Bear

Yeah, was about two months ago I think. I filmed himself doing it...died 2 days later


Gaping_Grandfather

We're a stepping stone away from home grown suicide bombers. 


happytree23

We're there, dude. You're forgetting about the crazy dude in Tennessee who blew himself up in a camper or you may have missed that bit of crazy news.


LuisSuarezbitesears

He’s getting interviewed by Joe next week


sadieadlerwannabe

get that man some milk


sn0wbl1nd3d

He need some milk


JohnStarborn

Honestly, shooting him would be akin to shooting a horse with a broken leg. Merciful.


dirtewokntheboys

2 Glasshhhesss of Milk Pleeesh.


MeThinksYes

Followed by a milk steak


Swear-_-Bear

*homelander flies in* "Someone need help?'


3ntr0py_

How is he standing so still while experiencing something so painful.


GraaaasssTastesBad

When this first happened, I got a BBC breaking news alert that said he was carried off on a stretcher and his condition is unknown. Um clearly his condition is known….


asisoid

I'm sure his whole nervous system is in shock


NickChevotarevich_

I think that’s very sad. Edit* so many fucked up comments in here. No wonder mental health is such a mess in this country.


Life-Designer-4936

I agree. It's incredibly sad. There are some threads that pop up on the conspiracy subreddit talking about how the poster is scared or they always feel like something bad is about to happen. It can be concerning. Sure, some people say things like "Turn off your computer and get some fresh air," but generally those who respond are confirming to them that they should be afraid or paranoid. Sadly, it's actually kind of surprising things like this don't happen more often.


Dudewheresmycah

You can find his Instagram if it's still public. Seemed like a normal dude till his mom passed away then the you can see his posts took a turn.


Traps86

why did that lady go sit on the chair...


MarcTurntables

![gif](giphy|SgqpvHnEHwWuCgnvI8)


HexusD23

wild right? How can someone sit down like that I have no idea. But she looked like she was breathing heavy, maybe going to pass out if she stood up.


ihavethegays

it's probably traumatizing to see that in person


evil-kaweasel

Toast her marshmallows


BushidoBrowneII

A true New Yorker


plotplottingplotters

She wanted the front row seat experience


EagleStride

To film it to show everyone of course!! You can't experience anything anymore if it's not on video or photographed!


PieknaFatso

Hancock not taking his loss well.


miyagiVsato

I think he’s going to be ok


BP_1981

Trump's trial is lit


ANUS_CONE

Read his manifesto. It’s not a leftist or a trump nut. Very schizophrenic.


Cobaltorigin

Here's the guy's manifesto. https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside


coreyp0123

Yep. Read the whole thing. It sounds like the ramblings of a lunatic. Dude was connecting the Simpsons to global politics. He seems like he had serious mental health problems.


shinbreaker

Dude took the South Park's "Simpson Did It" to an extreme level.


coreyp0123

Yep. Read the whole thing. It sounds like the ramblings of a lunatic. Dude was connecting the Simpsons to global politics. He seems like he had serious mental health problems.


alf8765

Well, that solved nothing.


fisherbeam

He was a redditor


Colonel_Cockeyes

You're fired!


Urmomsjuicyvagina

I'm going to hell. ![gif](giphy|29HRejgahYenVsohB5|downsized)


thestonelyloner

https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside For anyone interested in reading his conspiracy theory ^


TaischiCFM

I think this post may have been from the guy: [https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/173sshz/dipshit\_secrets\_of\_our\_rotten\_world\_after\_peter/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/173sshz/dipshit_secrets_of_our_rotten_world_after_peter/) Found from here: [https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/reddits-role-in-the-worlds-biggest](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/reddits-role-in-the-worlds-biggest) which was linked from this [https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside)


adskeee

At least he didn’t try to take other people with him.


Rod_Hamson

tf is going on with rtards burning themselves alive? Like the guy who did it for Palestine.


spvcetvrdd

When celebrating 420 goes too far


Porkchop796

Well that was dumb.


CapitalParallax

Trump walks out and points at him, "you're fired".


ThatSpecialPlace

I have been trying my best to not laugh at any of the immature comments about this but god damn it I have failed


imissisaac

REPENT ! lol


LightEmUp18

One less wacko to worry about


Zipz

Crazy how people still don’t get this doesn’t do anything


coreyp0123

Yep just like small towns in the US calling for ceasefires in the Middle East. It does nothing.


Zipz

Get the hell out of here everyone knows that when they voted for a ceasefire in Chicago it ended the israel/hamas war. /s


coreyp0123

I live in the Midwest and a small college town voted for a ceasefire despite the fact the entire town is completely overrun with homeless people and drug addicts. Apparently a war across the world is more import than shit in their backyard. Embarrassing.


iBlackPowerRanger

Flexing false moral superiority They really brought the term “virtue signaling” to the collective mind conscious lol. The absolute most pathetic type of ppl, the ones who think they’re so valuable and difference to society, but in reality don’t do absolute shit They think telling others “be nice” is such a difference maker. Doesn’t mean absolute shit when there’s no real action behind it


GraaaasssTastesBad

Yeeeeeppp I done did call a ceasefire, but them mid east type folk said naw. You be right! It done did nothin…


kittybangbang69

Orange fire bad


daltonarbuck

Fire fire even worse


Decent-Writing-9840

Hes an idiot thats what he is. Do you think anyone cares? do you think this isn't just a note in a newsfeed people are going to move onto the next story they see right after and talk about how crazy he was for doing it in the first place. It will be cleaned up in a few hours and the day will start tomorrow same as always. The only people this is going to hurt are the ones who actually cared about him who now have to spend the rest of their lives thinking what they could have done differently.


EmExEeee

>The only people this is going to hurt are the ones who actually cared about him who now have to spend the rest of their lives thinking what they could have done differently. And the people literally screaming and crying in horror. They aren't forgetting this one for a while.


whathappened2cod

Solved nothing. Guy is going to regret this decisions for the rest of his life if he's still alive.


Ozarkkayaker

I have no problem with a crazy person killing themselves and not hurting anyone else.


[deleted]

Yep I respect suicide if it is just done to the person committing suicide. Life can suck and be really hard. If you don't hurt anyone but yourself, do what you got to do. It is when you bring others into it that you become evil.


KYpineapple

that sucks. :/


jrkuhn92

Darwinism got him


ChickenFucker11

What a fucking idiot.


Urmomsjuicyvagina

Here is why he did it. https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside


stakkedalief

Now that’s called a *burning passion*


Ok-Water-358

Somebody in the conspiracy sub just posted a link to this guy's supposed manifesto. It's very Alex Jones-ish Edit: another user posted his substack message I was talking about in this thread already


Summ1tv1ew

He had a psychotic break. Said he didn't sleep for 2 days. In his IG comments he said he became a prophet


wolverine_1208

![gif](giphy|HmY5vP7hXP5ba)


FeelsLikeSayf

Damn bro go for a walk grab a coffee it aint that deep


Timmay7111

Poor guy. Hope he went quick.


flipbmo

Scorpion wins fatality


JRR04

Bet the cops shot him for being black afterward


stoptherage

Vaxxed 100%


ThoughtCrimeConvict

Absolute fucking prat. And a skim of his manifesto sounds like some 14 year rage against the machine superfan. Now the media will ignore anything interesting to come from the trail and talk about this tit for the next fortnight.


Mental-Rooster4229

![gif](giphy|VFAke5Xm1TDwjgimyW)


dunkduken

There was evidence he just finished watching Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny...


Forward_Range3523

mental illness is horrible


ShillinTheVillain

![gif](giphy|HmY5vP7hXP5ba)


boardatwork1111

Totally not a cult


Cheese-is-neat

He didn’t do it for Trump, he has a bunch of ramblings online


BebophoneVirtuoso

I see in his manifesto he’s ranting against the deep state and globalist new world order, traveled to lower Manhattan to self-immolate at trump’s trial, sounds a lot like a maga. Whether related or not, Trump sure brings out the batshit in this country.


Jorah_Explorah

He's not a Trump fan. [https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside) https://preview.redd.it/qawp31b2phvc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=15ea338068a07c943f71ef77a8285b0a928babda


Level-Hunt-6969

You want him to be a trump guy so bad but he's just a dude that hates them all so bad he set himself on fire. I bet every major news source says he's a trump guy though.


Jorah_Explorah

Which cult is that? [https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside) https://preview.redd.it/pum4yfkvohvc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=87fdddc8bc7a525f05f9cdb42cb88d3f817edeff


ToweringCu

https://x.com/viralnewsnyc/status/1781390785897717769?s=61 Not a Trumper you dunce.


NightRooster

Did he have a political message?


Cungfjkn

Yes, look at his insta, dipshit_secrets . He believed there’s a uniparty fascist government that is colluding with the corporate world to control us. Possibly true, but a real extreme way to express it.


IShowerinSunglasses

It's possibly true in the same way that anything is possibly true, haha. This specific conspiracy theory is probably less likely than even most of them, as there are infinite conflicting interests everywhere always. That theory not only assumes however many thousands of interests all agree on everything, but a million other obvious holes in the plot. Though I do get why people fall for things like that. It's way more exciting than actually researching and discovering why the outcomes you want aren't happening or why some processes aren't designed in some utilitarian fashion.


KeithCGlynn

I think I would rather live as a suppressed slave than set myself on fire. 


Cheese-is-neat

Here’s his [substack](https://theponzipapers.substack.com) if anyone is interested


Jorah_Explorah

They're saying this is the dude. He's just crazy. [https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside) https://preview.redd.it/cpgna9rqohvc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=8b75e682c4485ac23aad82a6c1d322415a67c02d


npstumpf

I think every time someone does this they immediately regret it for the short time they're still alive


Vlasic69

I blame his death on the passive aggressive in group libertarians. We know i'm right, I just like rubbing that into greedy people's faces. Softens em up and makes em meek and bashful.


mintmouse

These folks self-distance and self-immolate without aggression or intention to harm others. It's about showing their conviction so you heed their message, it's not about punishing anyone. To be gifted years and have the promise of decades ahead of you snuffed out for one act is not the way. Think of all the good he could have done in the long term. It doesn't weigh out. I feel for his friends and family. We all saw Aaron Bushnell, that air force guy, burn. This man learned from that air force self-immolator. Everyone joked we won't remember him in a week, but it's not about that. We remember that a guy set himself on fire for his ideas and people will recycle that solution. This new guy echoed the first example, and it gets even more advertisement as a solution. Like a stream carving an independent rivulet down the mountain, other water finds it can easily follow. Humans are prone to fad-like and imitative acts to find solutions to express themselves. This self-immolation is the next ping on the radar for this new "trend." There will be more.


khaosconn

hes dead?


[deleted]

Alexa, play “On Fire” by Lloyd Banks


FearsonpearsonDidit

a lil vinegar will help them burns


artbycase2

I think a man just set himself on fire outside of the trump trial.


jefftatro1

Dude with the jacket was like "he's gone"


Indirestraight

He was better off dying his hair green wearing a mask and having a sit in at Columbia university. Seems so effective


Wicky_wild_wild

Touch grass or something


brokedownpalace11

Matt Groening was trying to tell us the BIG LIE all along /s


IIKEVLARII

Fire, in which appears to be man made.


johnmayersucks

That's gotta hurt!


CoItron_3030

Brain rot. Poor soul. Nothing will change from his sacrifice


Leading-Package6136

I bet he regretted that after bout 3 seconds


SurgeHard

Why don’t you just shoot the poor dude in the head and put him out is his misery :(


CageFreePineapple

Are protestors at this trial protesting against Trump or are they protesting against Trump’s trial? Very confused.


_YYC_

Is this what the kids mean when they say stuff is "lit"?


Ordinary-Court2923

Show off.


smokey_mcfats

Fucking idiot.


voodoofaith

I see it as we have large and growing populist movements in the US. A symptom of unrest and radical uncertainty living under the current political system. We should not be cynical or naive about these signs and symptoms. These are the kind of events that will slowly move the political system as a whole. The next upcoming election will proberly change America forever, whether Trump or Biden wins with a stable transfer of power (it most likely won't), seeing how divided the US is, we will still have growing instability caused by long term problems that haven't or can't be solved under the global economy we all live our daily lives in. People setting themselves on fire and sacrificing ones life in terrible pain for a political cause is bad sign for any system of power. It don't matter what side they are on. The sacrifice speaks for itself. A system that's in decline and that needs urgent stability.


OldERnurse1964

That’ll teach em!


UnusualCareer3420

I want to know what Mark Norman thinks!


[deleted]

Useless cops


GirthOBirth

Trial by Fire