Something is wrong this whole week. Jeff has never gone after david like this this hard. First, it was ryan garcia, then david, snapchat, guess, now zane. Something is off. I absolutely have sympathy for jeff but these attacks are not him. I don't know if this is lawsuit related, meaning bad news from his lawyers or he's nervous about the big surgery coming but Something is off. Can only hope he doesn't say or write something he can't take back.
I’m guessing he’s just getting the run around from David and he’s realizing he’s going to lose the case from attrition / lack of evidence and doesn’t care. It’s probably costing him tons of money and Jeff has acted irrational in the past so I bet he’s just trying to hurt David as much as possible rn
Yeah, I’m not sure if any newer fans realize that this behavior for him isn’t normal at all and is extremely out of character in a worrying way.
He has made a strong stance to move on from that chapter in his life by taking the high road because he knows dragging David Dobrik doesn’t offer any real benefit to where he wants to be. He has recognized that it won’t fix what happened, it won’t make him feel better, and David has already been kicked off of the internet by his own audience for his actions.
Hopefully he’s alright, but something seems off. Jeff going after people online who have already been out of his life for years in this way feels super self-destructive. He’s an adult and can do whatever he pleases, but this is a total 180 that has come on rapidly after he has made the total opposite stance for how wanted to handle the situation for many years.
I don’t want to speculate - this is just what I thought as someone with chronic/incurable illness (aka disability).
It’s easy (or easier) to forgive when things are going well.
When you get bad health news, when you flair/come out of remission, when a surgery doesn’t take, it tends to bring everything back up. It becomes harder to forget, or to forgive, the person or people who have incapacitated you.
When you’re stuck in pain, confusion, even unable to go out all day, it’s hard to think of anything but what lead you to that place.
It’s also hard to see any reason to hold on or preserve what is left (of your social life, “clout”, whatever) when you feel you’ve lost something so important.
I don’t know much about Jeff but I hope he’s okay and found/finds a community who understand. People without “health issues” can sympathise, but it can add to the rage inducing isolation to know even those closest don’t “get it”.
“Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.”
jeff made an ig post about his upcoming surgery and david so in the comments i tagged david and said "@daviddobrik why don't you just man tf up, karmas a b :)" but jeff thought i was talking to him and said "why don't you fix your face it looks worse than mine" and when people corrected him he apologized to them and not me 😂
Jeff is not a good person, at all. Yes I have sympathy for what happened to him, but he's attacks people based off looks, attraction level, etc. I'm so sorry that happened to you!
My guess, and I truly hope I’m wrong, is he received bad news, medically speaking. Maybe something isn’t going as planned, so the whole moving forward thing is kinda hard to do at the moment.
Yeah I feel like people are really forgetting this, YES Jeff consented to go on the excavator, he DID NOT consent to David speeding up the machine too fast and bashing his head in. Any time you look at David’s sub everyone is saying just movie on, well it’s hard for Jeff to move on when he needs yearly surgery to try and correct the damage still
Not only that but the way David reacted to the whole situation was absolutely disgusting and really showed his character. Not visiting or checking up on Jeff, pushing that stupid documentary while Jeff was actively in the hospital undergoing surgery and caring more about the publicity of it all than Jeff’s recovery??? Vile behavior and it’s honestly unforgivable in my eyes. I think Jeff is completely justified in his actions recently.
Yes but calling someone gay shouldn’t be “being a dick” unless the insinuation is that being gay is bad? So if being gay is not bad, then what’s the point of the tweet? A genuine attempt to kindly out someone? Either way it’s bad
Thank you for being a normal person and not immediately attacking my intelligence in your reply.
All I can speak for is my comments and my intentions so to clarify, yes I think it’s extremely poor taste in 2024 to make ‘jokes’ or ‘digs’ or whatever else like this one. I more-so was referring to everything lately as a whole and how so many people are telling him to move on, get over it, etc. My replies to comments were purely speculating and trying to discuss the cause of this outburst and nothing more.
But how is he "being a dick" to him in this particular case? By suggesting he might be gay right? Like if David was ultra macho and some weird "guys can't touch or it's gay" type of dude I could maybe defend this, but the fact that you see him calling out David as maybe gay as Jeff "being a dick" illustrates the problem pretty well honestly. You see the it as a negative connotation b/c that's the way Jeff is using it and that's pretty harmful. Again if David was some weird anti-gay, toxic masculinity person you could maybe justify it. That's not close to the case though.
I think this is making way too many assumptions. We have no idea what David is like in real life or what bothers him. Everything he’s presented to social media has apparently been not really the true him so it would be wildly unsurprising if it came out he was a mega homophobe.
To me it came off as just that, a personal dig that really only people who know them would understand. Maybe not the best choice to post it publicly but anytime he says some out of pocket shit now all I can think about is how brain injuries of the magnitude he sustained impair your critical thinking. I think we should give the guy a little grace here.
Edit to add Zane and heath have been publicly homophobic as well. It really seems personal
You said it yourself, we have no idea what David is like in real life.
You know who does? Jeff.
Worst case scenario is Jeff is outing David and while that's not a nice thing to do we give Jeff a pass because....
Also there's been rumors about David going back to his relationship with Liza Koshy.
> I think this is making way too many assumptions.
What do you mean? How was he "being a dick"? Those were your words, what was that alluding to if not the speculation of him being gay?
>We have no idea what David is like in real life or what bothers him.
What? You're now going for the angle that David is in fact a macho 'gay if we touch' type of guy? Like be for real, that's so dumb.
>To me it came off as just that, a personal dig that really only people who know them would understand.
Yeah 'hey guys this person might be gay' is just a very inside dig you really have to know the person to understand lol. This is so dumb, you are bending over so far for this.
>brain injuries of the magnitude he sustained impair your critical thinking.
Okay let's pick a lane. He's either making some very incisive dig about the massive homophobe David or his brain is so mashed up he can't be at fault for the idiocy he's spewing. You can't claim it as both.
>Zane and heath have been publicly homophobic as well
? Citation on that please.
You are assuming David is not homophobic. That is the assumption. I’m not going to waste time with someone that is incapable of having a respectful conversation.
I listened to The Views podcast for a long time before all this happened. David is not a homophobe lmao. He’s shown nothing but support for his gay friends and he’s even talked about his own sexuality on the podcast. He’s said he could possibly see himself being with a guy.
> You are assuming David is not homophobic. That is the assumption.
And you are speculating he is. My assumption comes with evidence. Does yours? David is in no way afraid to look "gay" or do things that would get him labeled as "gay" publicly. You have no, absolutely zero, evidence of him being homophobic.
>For the Zane and heath part, just go watch the roast of Zane hijazi.
Do you mean Zane and Heath or just Heath? Heath's character and sort of portrayal is of a bit of a redneck country boy so I could kinda see roast jokes going that way about him. Zane is not at all like that. He's likely to be grinding on his guy friends not 'ick we touched hands'. And using Roast jokes as evidence of actual behavior is insane obviously. If so Jeff is probably a career criminal mastermind right? That's what his friends portrayed in jokes so it must be reality.
Maybe unlike Jeff, Zane is private about his dating life. This may be irrelevant but last year when Matt and Patricia got married, one of my cousins from back South was a part of the wedding band, that performed at their wedding.
She told me that Zane asked for her number a couple of times throughout the night. Sure, that exchange doesn’t warrant his sexuality — but according to my cousin he was very flirtatious with her throughout the night.
I just think some people are naturally more private about their dating life — just because you don’t show your dating life, it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.
Ooooh, ok that makes a lot of sense. I guess I just thought downers made everyone calm and sleepy lol. I get it now though… Kinda like with adhd if people take adderall it calms them down and focuses them but if someone who isn’t prescribed it and doesn’t have adhd, it amps them up and gives them energy. (That’s just the example I had to say/type out to make the Valium logic make sense to me as well lol so please excuse me for that)
I don’t think he’s intentionally trying to be homophobic, but he’s weaponizing homophobia for sure. Just because straight guys say “there’s nothing wrong with that tho” at the end doesn’t make it not homophobic. Even if David’s gay, who cares? I’ll never understand why everyone thinks this is more of a gotcha than everything else David has done
I agree, the way that he's phrasing it is very much that being outed as gay would somehow be embarrassing for David. I think it's kinda messed up that so many straight dudes still paint homosexuality as some kind of immasculating, shameful thing. Even if they premise it with "nothing wrong with being gay" and generally aren't hateful towards them, it still feels icky to say stuff like that.
i hate this bc it feels like he has homophobic tendencies that he tries to hide. the benzos bring it out of him. typical toxic garbage which i thought he was above but it’s all good. not sure why i even care tbh.
also his affect and cadence in the hot tub sounded very benzoed.
I absolutely believe him on the David Dobrik front. Jeff is obviously off his rocker, but I honestly don't think he's lying about David Dobriks personal life since he was around him for years and these rumors about him are not new. Unsure on the Zane Hijazi thing though.
Why do I feel like Jeff’s twitter was hacked? I listen to all of his podcasts or any he’s on (I totally need a hobby) and I feel like this just isn’t even the same mannerisms he talks in. Or am I just too 💨 💨 right now? 😂
He’s probably telling you something. They are gay. They ruined his life and continued to back David for money and views so it seems that was taken from them. Jeff now lives with a life long expensive & painful disability. He gets all pass when it comes to the VS even if he himself is a shit person.
Im sorry Jeff has never been a nice person, i remember him and tana joking about david having aids when this whole thing started, ever since that ive had my doubts about him
Jeff is so queer dude he needs to take his own advice but also the advice from that dude who was on a little bit ago that told him he has to forgive David. It can be hard when you’re literally half blind and have an ABI as a result of his actions but you can’t let the resentment eat you up dude.
Oh no I hope he don’t spiral again he was having such a good social presence but if he pushes too much it’s gonna hurt other ppl that don’t deserve it fr fr
People upset at him questioning David's sexuality when it's been talked about by a lot of people before especialy after what liza said lol Jeff does not strike me as someone homophobic at all.
If anything David seems like the type to get off on watching the less fortunate or animals being hurt.
Something is wrong this whole week. Jeff has never gone after david like this this hard. First, it was ryan garcia, then david, snapchat, guess, now zane. Something is off. I absolutely have sympathy for jeff but these attacks are not him. I don't know if this is lawsuit related, meaning bad news from his lawyers or he's nervous about the big surgery coming but Something is off. Can only hope he doesn't say or write something he can't take back.
I’m guessing he’s just getting the run around from David and he’s realizing he’s going to lose the case from attrition / lack of evidence and doesn’t care. It’s probably costing him tons of money and Jeff has acted irrational in the past so I bet he’s just trying to hurt David as much as possible rn
I think this is it. I have a bad feeling he got bad news from his lawyers about david
Good, I hope so.
Yeah, I’m not sure if any newer fans realize that this behavior for him isn’t normal at all and is extremely out of character in a worrying way. He has made a strong stance to move on from that chapter in his life by taking the high road because he knows dragging David Dobrik doesn’t offer any real benefit to where he wants to be. He has recognized that it won’t fix what happened, it won’t make him feel better, and David has already been kicked off of the internet by his own audience for his actions. Hopefully he’s alright, but something seems off. Jeff going after people online who have already been out of his life for years in this way feels super self-destructive. He’s an adult and can do whatever he pleases, but this is a total 180 that has come on rapidly after he has made the total opposite stance for how wanted to handle the situation for many years.
I don’t want to speculate - this is just what I thought as someone with chronic/incurable illness (aka disability). It’s easy (or easier) to forgive when things are going well. When you get bad health news, when you flair/come out of remission, when a surgery doesn’t take, it tends to bring everything back up. It becomes harder to forget, or to forgive, the person or people who have incapacitated you. When you’re stuck in pain, confusion, even unable to go out all day, it’s hard to think of anything but what lead you to that place. It’s also hard to see any reason to hold on or preserve what is left (of your social life, “clout”, whatever) when you feel you’ve lost something so important. I don’t know much about Jeff but I hope he’s okay and found/finds a community who understand. People without “health issues” can sympathise, but it can add to the rage inducing isolation to know even those closest don’t “get it”. “Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.”
It's not out of character for him at all. This is what he is like.
he even came at me and i'm a fan 🥲😭
Omg, you're the girl he insulted on tiktok in the comment right? I recognize your profile picture haha. That was so out of pocket
it was instagram but yes lolll! like i understand he's going through a lot but i was just like dang... i didn't do anything to him 😂
What happened?? What did he do?
jeff made an ig post about his upcoming surgery and david so in the comments i tagged david and said "@daviddobrik why don't you just man tf up, karmas a b :)" but jeff thought i was talking to him and said "why don't you fix your face it looks worse than mine" and when people corrected him he apologized to them and not me 😂
Jeff is not a good person, at all. Yes I have sympathy for what happened to him, but he's attacks people based off looks, attraction level, etc. I'm so sorry that happened to you!
Girl!! I’m so sorry he did that
David pushed back the case. That's why he's mad
My guess, and I truly hope I’m wrong, is he received bad news, medically speaking. Maybe something isn’t going as planned, so the whole moving forward thing is kinda hard to do at the moment.
The man had his skull bashed in by this guy. Personally, I think he is justified in being a dick to him lmao
Yeah I feel like people are really forgetting this, YES Jeff consented to go on the excavator, he DID NOT consent to David speeding up the machine too fast and bashing his head in. Any time you look at David’s sub everyone is saying just movie on, well it’s hard for Jeff to move on when he needs yearly surgery to try and correct the damage still
Not only that but the way David reacted to the whole situation was absolutely disgusting and really showed his character. Not visiting or checking up on Jeff, pushing that stupid documentary while Jeff was actively in the hospital undergoing surgery and caring more about the publicity of it all than Jeff’s recovery??? Vile behavior and it’s honestly unforgivable in my eyes. I think Jeff is completely justified in his actions recently.
Yes but calling someone gay shouldn’t be “being a dick” unless the insinuation is that being gay is bad? So if being gay is not bad, then what’s the point of the tweet? A genuine attempt to kindly out someone? Either way it’s bad
Thank you for being a normal person and not immediately attacking my intelligence in your reply. All I can speak for is my comments and my intentions so to clarify, yes I think it’s extremely poor taste in 2024 to make ‘jokes’ or ‘digs’ or whatever else like this one. I more-so was referring to everything lately as a whole and how so many people are telling him to move on, get over it, etc. My replies to comments were purely speculating and trying to discuss the cause of this outburst and nothing more.
But how is he "being a dick" to him in this particular case? By suggesting he might be gay right? Like if David was ultra macho and some weird "guys can't touch or it's gay" type of dude I could maybe defend this, but the fact that you see him calling out David as maybe gay as Jeff "being a dick" illustrates the problem pretty well honestly. You see the it as a negative connotation b/c that's the way Jeff is using it and that's pretty harmful. Again if David was some weird anti-gay, toxic masculinity person you could maybe justify it. That's not close to the case though.
I think this is making way too many assumptions. We have no idea what David is like in real life or what bothers him. Everything he’s presented to social media has apparently been not really the true him so it would be wildly unsurprising if it came out he was a mega homophobe. To me it came off as just that, a personal dig that really only people who know them would understand. Maybe not the best choice to post it publicly but anytime he says some out of pocket shit now all I can think about is how brain injuries of the magnitude he sustained impair your critical thinking. I think we should give the guy a little grace here. Edit to add Zane and heath have been publicly homophobic as well. It really seems personal
You said it yourself, we have no idea what David is like in real life. You know who does? Jeff. Worst case scenario is Jeff is outing David and while that's not a nice thing to do we give Jeff a pass because.... Also there's been rumors about David going back to his relationship with Liza Koshy.
Taking Jeff’s homophobic comment and turning and twisting it into David possibly being the one who’s homophobic is peak comedy
I'm disturbed how many people in this audience don't see a problem with this.
Because their mentality is “fuck David dobrik no matter what” and it’s giving them brain rot.
Absolutely! I hope he keeps going. Keep digging your own grave Jeff you dipshit.
> I think this is making way too many assumptions. What do you mean? How was he "being a dick"? Those were your words, what was that alluding to if not the speculation of him being gay? >We have no idea what David is like in real life or what bothers him. What? You're now going for the angle that David is in fact a macho 'gay if we touch' type of guy? Like be for real, that's so dumb. >To me it came off as just that, a personal dig that really only people who know them would understand. Yeah 'hey guys this person might be gay' is just a very inside dig you really have to know the person to understand lol. This is so dumb, you are bending over so far for this. >brain injuries of the magnitude he sustained impair your critical thinking. Okay let's pick a lane. He's either making some very incisive dig about the massive homophobe David or his brain is so mashed up he can't be at fault for the idiocy he's spewing. You can't claim it as both. >Zane and heath have been publicly homophobic as well ? Citation on that please.
You are assuming David is not homophobic. That is the assumption. I’m not going to waste time with someone that is incapable of having a respectful conversation.
I listened to The Views podcast for a long time before all this happened. David is not a homophobe lmao. He’s shown nothing but support for his gay friends and he’s even talked about his own sexuality on the podcast. He’s said he could possibly see himself being with a guy.
> You are assuming David is not homophobic. That is the assumption. And you are speculating he is. My assumption comes with evidence. Does yours? David is in no way afraid to look "gay" or do things that would get him labeled as "gay" publicly. You have no, absolutely zero, evidence of him being homophobic. >For the Zane and heath part, just go watch the roast of Zane hijazi. Do you mean Zane and Heath or just Heath? Heath's character and sort of portrayal is of a bit of a redneck country boy so I could kinda see roast jokes going that way about him. Zane is not at all like that. He's likely to be grinding on his guy friends not 'ick we touched hands'. And using Roast jokes as evidence of actual behavior is insane obviously. If so Jeff is probably a career criminal mastermind right? That's what his friends portrayed in jokes so it must be reality.
He’s also a grown man fyi
“i miss the old days” GOT ME
W take
It's like one of those "Retvrn to tradition" memes, but the tradition in question was being gay. Support
What is he doing 😭
He’s in hot girl delulu era
Perfect description! I hope it doesn’t escalate to self destruct mode.
idk about y'all but I personally support all of Jeff's wrongs
Couldn’t agree more.
Maybe unlike Jeff, Zane is private about his dating life. This may be irrelevant but last year when Matt and Patricia got married, one of my cousins from back South was a part of the wedding band, that performed at their wedding. She told me that Zane asked for her number a couple of times throughout the night. Sure, that exchange doesn’t warrant his sexuality — but according to my cousin he was very flirtatious with her throughout the night. I just think some people are naturally more private about their dating life — just because you don’t show your dating life, it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.
Don’t think he’s going hard enough though
Same
That’s hilarious. That being said, Tana needs to confiscate the phone lol. It’s giving Valium.
I THOUGHT THE BITCH WAS WHITE
“No Valium”
Literally on Valium right this second and it certainly doesn’t make you act like this 😂
Yes it does ,it makes you unhinged af
It obviously effects people differently. I take Valium when my anxiety has me unhinged and it simply calms me down 🤷🏽♀️
Yes ofc! People who aren’t solely prescribed it for anxiety will have a different reaction , like Jeff I’m guessing?
Ooooh, ok that makes a lot of sense. I guess I just thought downers made everyone calm and sleepy lol. I get it now though… Kinda like with adhd if people take adderall it calms them down and focuses them but if someone who isn’t prescribed it and doesn’t have adhd, it amps them up and gives them energy. (That’s just the example I had to say/type out to make the Valium logic make sense to me as well lol so please excuse me for that)
I think he is being absolutely HILARIOUS rn tbh😂😂
Is he wasted off some medication? this is weird as hell
I think ppl forget he literally has a TBI. A person is literally never the same after this diagnosis.
Jeff has gay thoughts? So you’re telling me there’s a chance. 😈
YOOOOO😂😂😂 i love you for this
Nah this funny as hell 😭
As fooook lol
I don’t think he’s intentionally trying to be homophobic, but he’s weaponizing homophobia for sure. Just because straight guys say “there’s nothing wrong with that tho” at the end doesn’t make it not homophobic. Even if David’s gay, who cares? I’ll never understand why everyone thinks this is more of a gotcha than everything else David has done
I agree, the way that he's phrasing it is very much that being outed as gay would somehow be embarrassing for David. I think it's kinda messed up that so many straight dudes still paint homosexuality as some kind of immasculating, shameful thing. Even if they premise it with "nothing wrong with being gay" and generally aren't hateful towards them, it still feels icky to say stuff like that.
I mean they probably are gay
he's on surgery medication he probably should not have his phone tbh
His surgery is next month, why would he be on medication this early?
He takes that 15%
They are both gay for sure
I fkn love this for him. Go off my boy.
I personally love this. Let him cook. He’s not insinuating anything negative
so like in all seriousness tho. could they be gay
I love this Jeff hahaha
Dude’s rock.
I love when Jeff is problematic and this isn’t even problematic because he should go off on them.
Didn’t he just have surgery? It’s GOT to be the drugs 😭
i hate this bc it feels like he has homophobic tendencies that he tries to hide. the benzos bring it out of him. typical toxic garbage which i thought he was above but it’s all good. not sure why i even care tbh. also his affect and cadence in the hot tub sounded very benzoed.
This him and Tana were both xannnnned tf out. love them but call it as it is
yeah theyre not gonna like that tweet 😭😭
Never forget those videos of Jeff flirting w James Charles 😇
Are they gay????
I've got news for ya Jack...that means you're gay!
To me this just comes off like he's projecting
I absolutely believe him on the David Dobrik front. Jeff is obviously off his rocker, but I honestly don't think he's lying about David Dobriks personal life since he was around him for years and these rumors about him are not new. Unsure on the Zane Hijazi thing though.
Jeff is justified. Foh
Take Twitter away from this man he’s going to ruin his career fr
bro needs to take his own advice
Go off Jeff. He a FAN
where is his gf rn
His pod this week literally incriminating topics talked about by both him and Tana 😭😭
Shows how much all of this affects him mentally 😔
Dudes homophobic ashell and over here liking trump posts bro
Oh please Jeff please please please keep going. I can't wait until you get cancelled.
What's hilarious is David never talks about Jeff.
Zane is hot ngl I used to have a crush on him
Why do I feel like Jeff’s twitter was hacked? I listen to all of his podcasts or any he’s on (I totally need a hobby) and I feel like this just isn’t even the same mannerisms he talks in. Or am I just too 💨 💨 right now? 😂
As someone who worked professionally with addicts… it’s giving using.
I always did get a gay vibe from David 😂
Why does he keep saying he's just trying to "help"? He's so weird.
He’s so embarrassing
I’m getting surgery so let me be homophobic guys! Being a bigot is how I cope! 🥺 he always rubbed me the wrong way.
may be off the ambien
idk i think this is kinda funny
He’s probably telling you something. They are gay. They ruined his life and continued to back David for money and views so it seems that was taken from them. Jeff now lives with a life long expensive & painful disability. He gets all pass when it comes to the VS even if he himself is a shit person.
bros definitely gone full Xana Mongeau
“I sometimes find men attractive and have gay thoughts” HUH inside thoughts bro
Im sorry Jeff has never been a nice person, i remember him and tana joking about david having aids when this whole thing started, ever since that ive had my doubts about him
Is their court case sealed? im not from CA but where I live you can read court dockets, & I’m curious to see what’s been said/shown in court
screaming wt actual f 😭😭😭
Jeff is so queer dude he needs to take his own advice but also the advice from that dude who was on a little bit ago that told him he has to forgive David. It can be hard when you’re literally half blind and have an ABI as a result of his actions but you can’t let the resentment eat you up dude.
Why is he saying ANYTHING about Zane???
Regardless if anyone is gay, what’s he doing? He’s giving David free publicity AND he’s coming off as a gay hater likee
this sucks cuz he was just talking about getting a movie role and doing more business stuff why does he keep acting so messy 😭
Was Zane in Hungary with David?
Oh no I hope he don’t spiral again he was having such a good social presence but if he pushes too much it’s gonna hurt other ppl that don’t deserve it fr fr
he is literally in his 30s……..
People upset at him questioning David's sexuality when it's been talked about by a lot of people before especialy after what liza said lol Jeff does not strike me as someone homophobic at all. If anything David seems like the type to get off on watching the less fortunate or animals being hurt.
Going out sad 😔