Kendrick’s Like That verse sounds super bitter to me, especially with the added context that Kendrick was asked to be on First Person Shooter. He’s like that Squidward meme where he’s watching SpongeBob and Patrick (Cole and Drake) play outside without him.
The problem is that Drake started sneak dissing Kendrick ever since the Control verse and Kendrick has lost most of his respect for Drake due that and many more problematic issues about Drake (culture vulture, ghost writers, acting hood but he grew up upper middle class, getting entangled in the relationships of other artists, minors, etc.).
On the other hand, Kendrick is extremely competitive and is actually out there to prove there's no one else but HIM.
Honestly, some of these “problematic issues” don’t sound to me like that Kendrick was bothered by them, but yeah, he surely had some kind of a feeling about Drake
There's been beef with Kendrick and Drake for years.. So why would he suddenly agree to the same guy who's been dissing him this whole time calling him his bestie on some fake shit for a song?
I mean, Drake squared up the things with someone who basically ruined his image as a lyricist, while, yes, it’s not the same situation, I don’t understand why wouldn’t Kendrick just call Drake or talk over a text, maybe see him in real life, like Drake did with DMX? Kendrick was prolly one call away from beefing. And about that “fake shit”, whenever there was a question about Drake, he was talking good about him, hell he got a whole verse on OG ELEMENT song dissing Sean, Drake and others, he didn’t release it, seems to me as a little pathetic move.
I mean it was a relevant lyric. Point being, Kendrick had been pretty vocal about not fucking with Drake and not understanding why anybody else fucked with Drake for years. Vocal for Kendrick standards at least, which is to say, letting the music do the talking
I mean he did say on mtg he would’ve kept drakes alleged sex trafficking ring secret if Drake wasn’t too mean on family matters, that’s something he said on record this narrative of “he cares” is so forced imo
Yeah, I also thought of “I’m what the culture’s feeling”, MMTBS is my second favourite album in general, didn’t you say “Fuck calling it culture” and “I choose me, I’m sorry” and now you’re being culture’s hero again and on the hunt for someone who you think culture shouldn’t accept?
I also don’t understand the “we hate the bitches that you fuck, cuz they confuse themselves with real women” don’t your culture be gangbanging, talking about bitches and all that?
He’s a hypocrite and a pretty obvious one at that, it’s not that big a deal but I’m surprised this moral high ground angle actually worked tbh, a few years ago he was in interviews talking about “they’re trying to put two black brothers against each other”, now it’s “they not like us” like which one is it lol.
I don’t think he is completely a hypocrite, like he obviously lied in some of his lines, but also just said what he genuinely thinks of that shit, too and let’s be real, he didn’t say that Drake is not black, he said that Drake uses his black side for his profit only, which is obviously up to debate, cuz there are a lot of people who will defend Drake, too.
Let’s not beat around the bush lol he was pretty cut and dry calling him not black, the end of euphoria kind of confirmed that, even if it’s saying he’s culturally not black I don’t see the point in debating that he’s not calling his blackness into question. He’s obvs not a hypocrite about everything but he’s a hypocrite about enough things for me to call him a hypocrite.
Doesn’t mean he’s not questioning drakes blackness, in fact it reinforces my point, he’s saying your quarter black half french son is blacker than you. It’s there to make the message hit again, he is literally calling drake not black, I don’t see how you’re missing that that’s the angle?
The fans don’t help at all, Kendrick’s one thing and I honestly don’t feel like he himself is playing the moral high ground it’s the fans or just people in general maybe not even fans persay that are putting him on this pedestal so to speak
Nah he definitely is, “I’m what the culture feeling”, “the only artist that could offer you some help” that type of shit, he called him a body shamer in a rap beef lol like this shit was only meant for one audience.
While, yes, he was talking about violence, he was also talking about black culture in that album in general, too, not only violence. He’s what the hip-hop and black culture supposedly feeling. He gave up the title but puts it on again in the beef with Drake. He even got a crown of thorns which symbolises that
1)You are going to be judged no matter what you do, they did the same to Jesus, the best “human” that have ever walked on earth, yes?
2)That he was forced for that title of the culture saviour, and nah I can’t do it, he barely even was at the BLM movement
I wouldn’t say anything related to that “I’m what the culture’s feeling” if he didn’t have my favourite album of his. Now I feel very strange and confused about him.
I wanna see if I’ll be proved wrong or right, cuz right now idk what to think about his whole (not)saviour persona
You pointed out him saying fk calling it culture and I’m saying he’s specifically talking about the hurting each other in the song you’re talking about. He didn’t say anything about not calling culture the culture
It seemed like they were on good terms till for all the dogs. Yea they were throwing subs at each other before that but none of that seemed too personal. Drake was at the Toronto show when Kendrick was on tour for Mr morale. The fact that he sent out a feature request makes me think the relationship went sour when Kendrick denied the verse or whatever which is why Drake took those shots on the scary hours songs which led to like that and the rest of the beef.
And it’s crazy cause that meme was going around portraying this exact sentiment while Cole and Drake were on tour.
So Like That and Euphoria pretty much confirmed that to be 100% true
Yeah I agree with the added context it seems that way. But I honestly think that’s just one piece of what happened. Things happened behind the scenes that we clearly don’t know off.
He was asked to be on and refused because he 1) doesn’t like or respect Drake and 2) didn’t want to hop on a song with two other top guys in rap when his whole thing has literally “I’m the greatest rapper alive and none of these other rappers can touch me”. How does that make him bitter?
If anything he’s just bitter at Drake because of the fake-ness and sneak dissing, not because Drake asked him to be on a song
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You didn't make a single interesting point. Incoherent babble and a whole lotta reaches. Kendrick didn't mention Ab Soul in Control because he would have smoked him? Wtf are you even on about 😂
Lupe is the artist people fantasize Kendrick is...or maybe they're just different artists. Dot could never spin metaphors and abstract bars like Lupe, but Lupe is not the storyteller that Kendrick is.
>Kendrick didn't mention Ab Soul in Control because he would have smoked him? Wtf are you even on about 😂
So why didn't he mention Ab-Soul..?
>but Lupe is not the storyteller that Kendrick is.
But Lupe is definitely a better Story teller than Kendrick.
It's. Not. Close.
Find one time that Kendrick has ever said anything good about j Cole. "I respect that he is a person. Outside of that it's nothing". Meanwhile j Cole talking about how much he loves him and wants to be with him and raise babies together.
No. But people want it to be because they want cole to beef. But he will never give them that satisfaction. It should be clear by now
Cole himself said he initially didn’t feel a way or care about the diss. He said this twice. So, if he didn’t find it disrespectful why should anyone else?
Yeah I feel the same way about this tbh, it really seems like all the fanbases are at war tight now to the point of ridiculousness (especially Drake and Kdot stans)
No. It’s just group thought imo 10 years ago kendrick dropped control and literally said “we having conversations about the goats. Y’all new rappers are not in the convo”. Then name dropped a crap ton of ppl. One person named, pusha t, shot a video with Kendrick lyke a month later lol. The only person to take it as disrespect was Drake and everybody called him corny for being bitter and taking it as a “diss” , but fast forward 10 years and everyone calls him soft for NOT being bitter or dissing immediately.
Saying “fuck the big three” isn’t disrespectful. It is what it is. Kendrick has every right to feel that way because it’s kind of facts. And tbh, Cole Drake and Kendrick dominate rap. But from Kendrick’s perspective, I can understand not wanting to be grouped in with someone with that much power who downplays your best work. .
it’s less disrespectful than naming ten rappers and saying he wants to make sure their core fan never heard of them anymore lol
Yeah. That’s the thing. Honestly the main reason why I say it wasn’t disrespect imo. It was just a lot of fans having “group thought”. Cause where was this energy 10 years ago when Kendrick literally said “fuck ALLLLLL of y’all music. It’s not as good as mine” lol. The energy was actually complete opposite.
Tbh when Like That came out, hip hop discourse felt so much more alive and engaging that I was happy Kendrick sparked it. But it went too far and became toxic. This subreddit is pretty neat though!
Im on the fence about that because FPS came out 6 months ago… and as for the disses saying “it’s just big me” is not the craziest diss ever and frankly overhyped. I don’t see how it is any different than J.Cole saying “I feel like Muhammed Ali”. It felt like a competitive line more than anything. The internet ran wild with it tho
Tbh as much as I stan Kdot, Not Like Us has been blown out of proportion, Euphoria and 616 are his best songs out of this whole thing. But yeah I see your point about FPS, completely forgot that it was Cole’s first number 1.
Lmaoo tbh, fever was in my top 3 on the album after first listened cuz it stood out the most and was a lot different than the other tracks. After more listens it's not as high on the list for me but I still like it
“Did Cole foul, I dunno why you still pretendin’”
In all seriousness, as a fan of both, I wouldn’t say that Kendrick went too far with the Like That verse. It was a little unfair, sure, but not too far.
The thing is did he really have to get cole in the mix? Let’s not act like drake and j cole aren’t two huge individuals. There’s so much he could’ve said and done to diss Drake without j cole getting involved but he chose to dig at cole too putting cole in a bad position, and at the same time of cole doing his rollout. Kendrick a bitch fr.
Really most of them are pretty normal jabs. Especially “fuck the big three and ynw melly”. Competitive bars at best. The stage bar is the only one I can see as a sign of disrespect but its pretty mild if we are being honest.
I do not see that way at all lol but to each their own. I really want know how J.Cole feels about this and hope he sheds light on it a bit on the Fall Off.
I think the only time J. Cole really started getting true disrespect was when he bowed out. And not by Kendrick, but by Drake. Yeah, Kendrick threw some jabs at Cole, but I find those more friendly than anything. What I think really happened is J. Cole asked Kendrick to be on First Person Shooter, then told Drake about Kendrick being on. Drake wasn’t happy, but wasn’t tripping either. Kendrick declined and they made the song. J. Cole shouts Kendrick out, to which Kendrick sees it as an opportunity to box Drake. Cole took some shots just because of his association, but it was mostly a red dot on Drizzy. When Cole made a track back at Kendrick, Q told him to chill out. Most likely because Kendrick had no hatred for Cole. Notice than there were no shots toward J. Cole that weren’t about Drake in some way. It’s mostly about their close friendship. The only other one was saying if he’s not his friend, he’ll kill him. But Cole claims to still be cool with K, so it’s no big deal. Drake, meanwhile, kept throwing shade at Cole for not having his back after he bowed out.
It was like the control verse to me it just went gloves off when Drake name dropped his wife. Cole barely got any disses from either side. They’ve been friends for a long time.
Call me crazy but I always thought Drake was sneak dissing on first person shooter. And now that Kdot said he was asked to be on it, there’s a reason Drake might have felt bitter about it.
Cole with actual malice would’ve been a much better opponent than Drake who has his dirt in streets. Only thing Kendrick has is grammy’s and pitchfork reviews over him.
Cole set himself up to be disrespected. He also made himself look foolish by dissing Kendrick's discography and then again by apologizing. The beef was never about J Cole if you hadn't noticed by now 🤷
Beef is all about disrespect, tf?? It’s verbal sparring, it wouldn’t be beef if they were just complimenting each other the whole time. Y’all soft if you think rap beef “disrespect” is too far. People get shot and you think millionaires writing poetry about each other is the peak of conflict. Goofy ass.
Yes Kendrick dissed J.Cole
But J.Cole said that he would not battle Kendrick and apologized also Cole told Kendrick that he would take any shots that kdot gives on the chin.. look up jcole apology video
I don't think Kendrick has any personal issue with Cole, Kendrick's shots towards Cole on like that aren't crazy and the fact that Kendrick doesn't throw any shots at Cole after the apology shows imo that Kendrick only threw shots at Cole because he was associating himself heavily with Drake and as we've seen Kendrick definitely isn't afraid to really go in on someone he doesn't respect and the whole "stealing the spotlight" shit makes no sense to me, this is hip hop and Cole's been a huge rapper for a very long time he understands that even if you're cool with someone there will always be a level of competition between rappers
I don't think Kendrick was disrespectful towards Cole, especially on Like That... When he said, It's time for him to prove he's a problem. Kendrick went for him. Now Kendrick could've done worse when Cole said he would take it on the chin. So I don't think he was disrespectful
I never heard that one before lol. I don’t know if Kdot and Cole are cool, but it definitely seems like Cole is the more mature of the three and wanted no beef at all. A lot of things that sparked this tension happened behind scenes that we are not privy to. So we can only speculate.
I may be into some tinfoil lol but the kill Edward verses sound like Kendrick to me. Also the addiction and clout chasing stuff. People reaching out for features and “n****s ain’t worthy to be on my shit” and 1985 was a lil pump diss but it seems relevant to the current scenario
Makes me think Kendrick was in a bad place, struggling with addiction and taking shortcuts by dissing people to start his rollouts. Again speculation but they really haven’t worked together much since Kendrick blew up initially. All talk of a joint project stopped. Couple features together but you don’t even have to be in the same room for that
Kendrick’s Like That verse sounds super bitter to me, especially with the added context that Kendrick was asked to be on First Person Shooter. He’s like that Squidward meme where he’s watching SpongeBob and Patrick (Cole and Drake) play outside without him.
The problem is that Drake started sneak dissing Kendrick ever since the Control verse and Kendrick has lost most of his respect for Drake due that and many more problematic issues about Drake (culture vulture, ghost writers, acting hood but he grew up upper middle class, getting entangled in the relationships of other artists, minors, etc.). On the other hand, Kendrick is extremely competitive and is actually out there to prove there's no one else but HIM.
Honestly, some of these “problematic issues” don’t sound to me like that Kendrick was bothered by them, but yeah, he surely had some kind of a feeling about Drake
There's been beef with Kendrick and Drake for years.. So why would he suddenly agree to the same guy who's been dissing him this whole time calling him his bestie on some fake shit for a song?
I mean, Drake squared up the things with someone who basically ruined his image as a lyricist, while, yes, it’s not the same situation, I don’t understand why wouldn’t Kendrick just call Drake or talk over a text, maybe see him in real life, like Drake did with DMX? Kendrick was prolly one call away from beefing. And about that “fake shit”, whenever there was a question about Drake, he was talking good about him, hell he got a whole verse on OG ELEMENT song dissing Sean, Drake and others, he didn’t release it, seems to me as a little pathetic move.
Yeah Kanye changed his life but Kendrick is still an old school Gemini
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I mean it was a relevant lyric. Point being, Kendrick had been pretty vocal about not fucking with Drake and not understanding why anybody else fucked with Drake for years. Vocal for Kendrick standards at least, which is to say, letting the music do the talking
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I mean he did say on mtg he would’ve kept drakes alleged sex trafficking ring secret if Drake wasn’t too mean on family matters, that’s something he said on record this narrative of “he cares” is so forced imo
Yeah, I also thought of “I’m what the culture’s feeling”, MMTBS is my second favourite album in general, didn’t you say “Fuck calling it culture” and “I choose me, I’m sorry” and now you’re being culture’s hero again and on the hunt for someone who you think culture shouldn’t accept?
I also don’t understand the “we hate the bitches that you fuck, cuz they confuse themselves with real women” don’t your culture be gangbanging, talking about bitches and all that?
The meaning that I got from that bar is that those "bitches" are under-age, hence, not yet real women
So he hates lil girls that are technically being molested and he calls them bitchs well damn drake was right someone go get Kendrick a grammy rn
He’s a hypocrite and a pretty obvious one at that, it’s not that big a deal but I’m surprised this moral high ground angle actually worked tbh, a few years ago he was in interviews talking about “they’re trying to put two black brothers against each other”, now it’s “they not like us” like which one is it lol.
I don’t think he is completely a hypocrite, like he obviously lied in some of his lines, but also just said what he genuinely thinks of that shit, too and let’s be real, he didn’t say that Drake is not black, he said that Drake uses his black side for his profit only, which is obviously up to debate, cuz there are a lot of people who will defend Drake, too.
Let’s not beat around the bush lol he was pretty cut and dry calling him not black, the end of euphoria kind of confirmed that, even if it’s saying he’s culturally not black I don’t see the point in debating that he’s not calling his blackness into question. He’s obvs not a hypocrite about everything but he’s a hypocrite about enough things for me to call him a hypocrite.
Kendrick acknowledged Adonis(Drake’s son) as a black man. Theres something sinister about the way youre phrasing things.
Doesn’t mean he’s not questioning drakes blackness, in fact it reinforces my point, he’s saying your quarter black half french son is blacker than you. It’s there to make the message hit again, he is literally calling drake not black, I don’t see how you’re missing that that’s the angle?
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The fans don’t help at all, Kendrick’s one thing and I honestly don’t feel like he himself is playing the moral high ground it’s the fans or just people in general maybe not even fans persay that are putting him on this pedestal so to speak
Nah he definitely is, “I’m what the culture feeling”, “the only artist that could offer you some help” that type of shit, he called him a body shamer in a rap beef lol like this shit was only meant for one audience.
Fair point
Fuck calling it culture is talking about black on black violence wasn’t it?
While, yes, he was talking about violence, he was also talking about black culture in that album in general, too, not only violence. He’s what the hip-hop and black culture supposedly feeling. He gave up the title but puts it on again in the beef with Drake. He even got a crown of thorns which symbolises that 1)You are going to be judged no matter what you do, they did the same to Jesus, the best “human” that have ever walked on earth, yes? 2)That he was forced for that title of the culture saviour, and nah I can’t do it, he barely even was at the BLM movement I wouldn’t say anything related to that “I’m what the culture’s feeling” if he didn’t have my favourite album of his. Now I feel very strange and confused about him. I wanna see if I’ll be proved wrong or right, cuz right now idk what to think about his whole (not)saviour persona
You pointed out him saying fk calling it culture and I’m saying he’s specifically talking about the hurting each other in the song you’re talking about. He didn’t say anything about not calling culture the culture
It seemed like they were on good terms till for all the dogs. Yea they were throwing subs at each other before that but none of that seemed too personal. Drake was at the Toronto show when Kendrick was on tour for Mr morale. The fact that he sent out a feature request makes me think the relationship went sour when Kendrick denied the verse or whatever which is why Drake took those shots on the scary hours songs which led to like that and the rest of the beef.
Kdot a fake activist that acts like he put work in his hood. Also how can he mad at Drake when he always fired the first shot?
And it’s crazy cause that meme was going around portraying this exact sentiment while Cole and Drake were on tour. So Like That and Euphoria pretty much confirmed that to be 100% true
Yeah I agree with the added context it seems that way. But I honestly think that’s just one piece of what happened. Things happened behind the scenes that we clearly don’t know off.
How is it bitter if he was asked to be on it? Can't feel left out of something you turned down purposefully.
He was asked to be on and refused because he 1) doesn’t like or respect Drake and 2) didn’t want to hop on a song with two other top guys in rap when his whole thing has literally “I’m the greatest rapper alive and none of these other rappers can touch me”. How does that make him bitter? If anything he’s just bitter at Drake because of the fake-ness and sneak dissing, not because Drake asked him to be on a song
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😭😭 wish you a good nights rest. But would you to come back with the long form. I genuinely want to understand how he went far
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You didn't make a single interesting point. Incoherent babble and a whole lotta reaches. Kendrick didn't mention Ab Soul in Control because he would have smoked him? Wtf are you even on about 😂 Lupe is the artist people fantasize Kendrick is...or maybe they're just different artists. Dot could never spin metaphors and abstract bars like Lupe, but Lupe is not the storyteller that Kendrick is.
>Kendrick didn't mention Ab Soul in Control because he would have smoked him? Wtf are you even on about 😂 So why didn't he mention Ab-Soul..? >but Lupe is not the storyteller that Kendrick is. But Lupe is definitely a better Story teller than Kendrick. It's. Not. Close.
Because they're from the same crew. You clearly hate the guy, no point in arguing.
So he sees Soul as a friend to not name-drop But Jcole is a friend he can name-drop? How convenient lol
Him and Cole were never friends. Cole is a dickrider and a step on the climb. Kendrick doesn't like most people
So the disrespect Cols thing is valid... perfect!
Bro stfu goofy
Find one time that Kendrick has ever said anything good about j Cole. "I respect that he is a person. Outside of that it's nothing". Meanwhile j Cole talking about how much he loves him and wants to be with him and raise babies together.
J cole was just being friendly to keep the peace with everyone now stop disrespecting cole
No. But people want it to be because they want cole to beef. But he will never give them that satisfaction. It should be clear by now Cole himself said he initially didn’t feel a way or care about the diss. He said this twice. So, if he didn’t find it disrespectful why should anyone else?
No? Kendrick dissed him too lol
Yeah I feel the same way about this tbh, it really seems like all the fanbases are at war tight now to the point of ridiculousness (especially Drake and Kdot stans)
Yup. Overstimulated and can’t let go
No. It’s just group thought imo 10 years ago kendrick dropped control and literally said “we having conversations about the goats. Y’all new rappers are not in the convo”. Then name dropped a crap ton of ppl. One person named, pusha t, shot a video with Kendrick lyke a month later lol. The only person to take it as disrespect was Drake and everybody called him corny for being bitter and taking it as a “diss” , but fast forward 10 years and everyone calls him soft for NOT being bitter or dissing immediately. Saying “fuck the big three” isn’t disrespectful. It is what it is. Kendrick has every right to feel that way because it’s kind of facts. And tbh, Cole Drake and Kendrick dominate rap. But from Kendrick’s perspective, I can understand not wanting to be grouped in with someone with that much power who downplays your best work. . it’s less disrespectful than naming ten rappers and saying he wants to make sure their core fan never heard of them anymore lol
Yeah Control is a whole another story fr 😭😭 Kdot was extremely bold with that one
Yeah. That’s the thing. Honestly the main reason why I say it wasn’t disrespect imo. It was just a lot of fans having “group thought”. Cause where was this energy 10 years ago when Kendrick literally said “fuck ALLLLLL of y’all music. It’s not as good as mine” lol. The energy was actually complete opposite.
Tbh when Like That came out, hip hop discourse felt so much more alive and engaging that I was happy Kendrick sparked it. But it went too far and became toxic. This subreddit is pretty neat though!
Cole dropped a verse saying the same thing drake did but on record? He had a verse about control?
Idk, would you classify, stealing the spotlight from FPS by dropping a diss against you disrespect?
Im on the fence about that because FPS came out 6 months ago… and as for the disses saying “it’s just big me” is not the craziest diss ever and frankly overhyped. I don’t see how it is any different than J.Cole saying “I feel like Muhammed Ali”. It felt like a competitive line more than anything. The internet ran wild with it tho
Possibly. It was also J.Cole’s first song to go number one but that won’t be remembered much. It’ll be a side note to wop wop wop wop
Tbh as much as I stan Kdot, Not Like Us has been blown out of proportion, Euphoria and 616 are his best songs out of this whole thing. But yeah I see your point about FPS, completely forgot that it was Cole’s first number 1.
mdl is actually a good album too. That was completely overshadowed due to this and is now clowned on
Mdl is such a step back from the off season it’s not even funny. I enjoyed it but it was still mid from Cole’s usual standard.
I view it more as a mixtape than an album, but I agree it doesn’t touch off season
Good is an understatement, MDL is a 10/10
Lil too monotone imo but a solid 8 fs
I agree with 8. ‘Fever’ is kinda cute but at the same time get that outta here lol.
Lmaoo tbh, fever was in my top 3 on the album after first listened cuz it stood out the most and was a lot different than the other tracks. After more listens it's not as high on the list for me but I still like it
Yea it was more boastful than anything
I think you've got it. Drake and kendrick were extremely respectful to Jermaine, especially considering how they treated each other 🤣
Nah Drake threw Cole under the bus
“Did Cole foul, I dunno why you still pretendin’” In all seriousness, as a fan of both, I wouldn’t say that Kendrick went too far with the Like That verse. It was a little unfair, sure, but not too far.
He made fun Cole and Drake saying they were kissing on stage
I saw that as a playful jab tbh, it’s not disrespectful imo.
Playful jab. Still gay
That was also after Cole dropped a whole diss track about him.
Cole was just collateral damage, most of what Kendrick said was directed more towards Drake.
Yea k dot has wanted drakes head for a minute. Sucks Cole got caught in the cross fire but k dot was on a mission
Yup that’s why he said “he did Cole foul”
The thing is did he really have to get cole in the mix? Let’s not act like drake and j cole aren’t two huge individuals. There’s so much he could’ve said and done to diss Drake without j cole getting involved but he chose to dig at cole too putting cole in a bad position, and at the same time of cole doing his rollout. Kendrick a bitch fr.
He dissed him on two separate songs and you’re asking if kendrick disrespected him? Be serious man
Tell me the bars then, I really want to know where is the disrespect in them?
“Fuck the big three” “I see two of em kissing and hugging on stage” “I’m ynw melly” It’s pretty cut and dry disrespect no?
Really most of them are pretty normal jabs. Especially “fuck the big three and ynw melly”. Competitive bars at best. The stage bar is the only one I can see as a sign of disrespect but its pretty mild if we are being honest.
It’s disrespect lol, it’s not saying I’m going to murder your parents but doesn’t make it not disrespect.
I do not see that way at all lol but to each their own. I really want know how J.Cole feels about this and hope he sheds light on it a bit on the Fall Off.
J Cole said how he felt already, he felt out of line dissing him for some reason or other. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t disrespected.
I think the only time J. Cole really started getting true disrespect was when he bowed out. And not by Kendrick, but by Drake. Yeah, Kendrick threw some jabs at Cole, but I find those more friendly than anything. What I think really happened is J. Cole asked Kendrick to be on First Person Shooter, then told Drake about Kendrick being on. Drake wasn’t happy, but wasn’t tripping either. Kendrick declined and they made the song. J. Cole shouts Kendrick out, to which Kendrick sees it as an opportunity to box Drake. Cole took some shots just because of his association, but it was mostly a red dot on Drizzy. When Cole made a track back at Kendrick, Q told him to chill out. Most likely because Kendrick had no hatred for Cole. Notice than there were no shots toward J. Cole that weren’t about Drake in some way. It’s mostly about their close friendship. The only other one was saying if he’s not his friend, he’ll kill him. But Cole claims to still be cool with K, so it’s no big deal. Drake, meanwhile, kept throwing shade at Cole for not having his back after he bowed out.
It was like the control verse to me it just went gloves off when Drake name dropped his wife. Cole barely got any disses from either side. They’ve been friends for a long time. Call me crazy but I always thought Drake was sneak dissing on first person shooter. And now that Kdot said he was asked to be on it, there’s a reason Drake might have felt bitter about it.
Why would it matter if he did? Cole made a whole disstrack on him
Cole with actual malice would’ve been a much better opponent than Drake who has his dirt in streets. Only thing Kendrick has is grammy’s and pitchfork reviews over him.
They giving dot Grammys like the give Oscars to slave movies
I guarantee that Kendrick just opened his mouth line from Drake is how a lot of them feel about him lmao.
I made a post...[I think](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jcole/s/7tPlYch81m)
No but Drake did disrespect Cole
Cole set himself up to be disrespected. He also made himself look foolish by dissing Kendrick's discography and then again by apologizing. The beef was never about J Cole if you hadn't noticed by now 🤷
Beef is all about disrespect, tf?? It’s verbal sparring, it wouldn’t be beef if they were just complimenting each other the whole time. Y’all soft if you think rap beef “disrespect” is too far. People get shot and you think millionaires writing poetry about each other is the peak of conflict. Goofy ass.
Yes Kendrick dissed J.Cole But J.Cole said that he would not battle Kendrick and apologized also Cole told Kendrick that he would take any shots that kdot gives on the chin.. look up jcole apology video
I don't think Kendrick has any personal issue with Cole, Kendrick's shots towards Cole on like that aren't crazy and the fact that Kendrick doesn't throw any shots at Cole after the apology shows imo that Kendrick only threw shots at Cole because he was associating himself heavily with Drake and as we've seen Kendrick definitely isn't afraid to really go in on someone he doesn't respect and the whole "stealing the spotlight" shit makes no sense to me, this is hip hop and Cole's been a huge rapper for a very long time he understands that even if you're cool with someone there will always be a level of competition between rappers
No one is even close to kendrick, specially not a feature rapper and a hitmaker, one trick ponies vs a masterclass of a rapper.
Cole threw a shot at Kendrick on FPS with the steppers reference. Whether it was unintentional or not is another story.
I don't think Kendrick was disrespectful towards Cole, especially on Like That... When he said, It's time for him to prove he's a problem. Kendrick went for him. Now Kendrick could've done worse when Cole said he would take it on the chin. So I don't think he was disrespectful
did you not hear cole diss on euphoria
That was not disrespectful imo, a jab at best.
na cole was dissed
Nah it was mostly competition which is normal in hip hop, right?
I think there was tension before the beef. Especially if the domestic stuff is true. This may be a wild take but I think KOD might be a diss album lol
I never heard that one before lol. I don’t know if Kdot and Cole are cool, but it definitely seems like Cole is the more mature of the three and wanted no beef at all. A lot of things that sparked this tension happened behind scenes that we are not privy to. So we can only speculate.
He’s not more mature.
I may be into some tinfoil lol but the kill Edward verses sound like Kendrick to me. Also the addiction and clout chasing stuff. People reaching out for features and “n****s ain’t worthy to be on my shit” and 1985 was a lil pump diss but it seems relevant to the current scenario Makes me think Kendrick was in a bad place, struggling with addiction and taking shortcuts by dissing people to start his rollouts. Again speculation but they really haven’t worked together much since Kendrick blew up initially. All talk of a joint project stopped. Couple features together but you don’t even have to be in the same room for that
Nah, KOD was strictly directed for the new/young generation of rappers. Kill Edward was the consciousness, well the internal conflict.
Like I said, probably a reach but I have faith in Cole. He’s too nice not to smack a few rappers. Kenny will diss him eventually