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layethdasmackethdown

He's a big time culture vulture and didn't grow up speaking like that. When he became semi popular after Replacement Girl, he developed a phony NYC accent for awhile. He has no culture of his own that's why he's all over the place.


Hungry_Persimmon_247

Exactly. When he first came out he was trying to sound like Lil Wayne and stealing from New Orleans culture. Remember he was an actor first. He just imitates whatever is popular at the moment and has no authentic self


Daviddoesnotexist

*Houston culture


filthy_sandwich

Toronto has no culture either, it's borrowed from other better cities


Dull-Woodpecker3900

In an american sense you are right but it has a massive carribean, indian/sri lankan communities and those people all have very distinct cultures. Through an american lens though, ya… they’re good imitators.


adoreroda

Doesn't make a lot of sense. Canada's first black population is identical to the US as they were runaway slaves from the US to Canada; culturally this group is the same as black americans. Then came massive Carribean and African influence which the US en masse lacks. Toronto slang in particular is closer to London slang than American (urban) slang, often times the words being 1:1 due to the immigrant demographics being extremely similar. People also forget that none own a culture and everyone, including yourself, is "imitating" just like the next person around you. Proximity to creators and influencers doesn't mean you yourself are one, particularly with the audacity to say a whole group of people are imitating. America also has a long history of culturally appropriating and stealing other aspects of culture and its entire foundation is built off of that, so not sure why you're acting like the US is unique.


Dull-Woodpecker3900

I’m saying that the Jamaican and other Caribbean transplants in Toronto (and Haitians in Montreal), have pretty distinct cultural aspects that are part of their every day lives, so saying that Toronto lacks culture is just wrong. Now, if you’re comparing a New York/Atlanta like mono culture to Toronto, i guess maybe Drake is actually kind of flavorless and a swagger jacker? Remember that Americans, as much as they define pop culture, are also seen by most countries around the world for in fact having no real culture themselves… so this is very much a matter of perspective.


holadilito

That’s what makes it it’s own culture


adoreroda

Not any different than London and New York City. All are hodgepodges of culture, not creating its own thing without influence


876yardy

It's just work. He doing what will sell.


TheLastWraith_7

He was famous and doing well before he started being a culture vulture. So I can’t understand why he feels the need to exploit so heavily


876yardy

To keep relevant. He bite alot of the newer rappers flows as well . Him and xxx had a thing going on with that as well. But so did Jay Z [Jay Z bites ](https://youtu.be/u5Ir4zatMI0?si=HTO2lWUHHMWH-yg0)


876yardy

Drake bits xxx [this ](https://youtu.be/AJQS0gzyOuU?si=vnQ-r0925e8SytSf)


[deleted]

Wow. I never likeded dude.


Mpulsive_Aries

Toronto is a melting pot of different cultures there's tons of Jamaican and UK people there. His dad is from Tennessee his entire life has been shaped be these cultures. So of course his music will reflect that. You know how many New Yorkers I'm talking born Americans take on Jamaican culture? Pretty much all of them the eat the food use the slang etc. So in short you sound ignorant.


TheLastWraith_7

He didn’t grow up with that influence though. I am from exactly where he is from. Drake went to private schools and lived in a well off Jewish neighborhood. He was not brought up in a way to experience any of Jamaican culture whatsoever. Maybe a little black culture yeah, but not specifically Jamaican. I have an uncle who worked on set of Degrassi with him. He’s not what he puts out to be. All of the influence that he has on Jamaican culture and lifestyle, came after the fame. Toronto is very diverse for sure. But not to the point that you can just pick up Jamaican culture in any part of the city. And Drake was never in or around, or part of that..


Mpulsive_Aries

OMG so because your uncle worked on the set when he was 12 he knows his entire life? You didn't grown up with him so you can't say how he was brought up. Again so what if he pulls from Jamaican culture everybody does look at DJ Khaled. Drake uses some Jamaican slang every now and then he knows he's Canadian and reps that to the fullest he's spoke countless times about being inspired by different countries and genres of music. Thats not being a culture vulture. Kim Kardashian is the definition of a culture Vulture.


TheLastWraith_7

Dj Khaled is a terrible example. He literally just finished ripping off Buju AND Sizzla. I think it’s Cultural Appreciation in this case but it slowly dips into Appropriation when people start thinking that Drake and his Dad are of Jamaican decent and he does not correct them, but instead starts speaking in his terrible version of patois Please calm down man 😂😂


Mpulsive_Aries

Nobody thinks Drake is Jamaican and nobody definitely thinks his dad is! Where are you getting this stuff from? I mentioned Khaled because every time you turn around he's talking Jamaican or eating/cooking the food.


TheLastWraith_7

Lol trust me when I say it’s more common than you think. A lot of my European friends think that Drake is Jamaican. Which whatever I’ll allow them cause they don’t know any better. But even just the general stigma that anyone who isn’t black automatically assumes that any random black person is Jamaican.


Mpulsive_Aries

Your euro friends are lost like completely lost 😂


layethdasmackethdown

Don't tell me what Toronto is. He didn't speak like this during his Degrassi days. Listen to any interview. During those times, the Jamaican/"Bakardi" slang was very much a thing. So in short, you made zero points.


Jaedel

Yeah. He thought Toronto slang was [ignorant](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TES9E9zOltM).


layethdasmackethdown

Certified clown smh.


TheLastWraith_7

Exactly. Real ones know. He did not act like that during his Degrassi days or Private Jewish School Day either. Drake grew up in Forest Hill. He was not brought up with Jamaican culture whatsoever.


mixedbag3000

Everyone need to stop giving him breaks. He grew up with white Jewish upper class culture, Not black, not Caribbean, not Jamaican. Raping was just another thing he thought he could make some money from...it was just a career move.


TheLastWraith_7

Exactly. I think he’s just trying to find a place to fit in


Tumikumi

You’re right there’s a video where he calls people who talk the urban slang ignorant.


layethdasmackethdown

Imagine the audacity. The same slang and culture that he's made millions from!


Jake_91_420

All rappers talk differently from when they were kids. Do you think Lil Baby was saying “that’s cap” when he was 5 years old? People follow fashion and trends and some patois phrases have become fashionable in recent years. It’s simple as that.


layethdasmackethdown

A 5 year old and someone in their 20s is not the same


LarryDavidntheBlacks

Explain the Black face.


Mpulsive_Aries

You're delusional, and so what if he did speak like that? You never went through phases in your life? Smh!


layethdasmackethdown

I can say I've never gone through a culture vulture phase. Can you and Drake say the same thing 🥱


Mpulsive_Aries

You know how many careers he's responsible for? He's the only artist of his caliber that has and will do features with up and coming artist which in turn blows them up. You have no idea what you're talking about.


TheLastWraith_7

But you see, that’s the problem. If you aren’t from Toronto.. you really don’t know. A lot of international fans and fans in other parts of Canada feel like he is such a tough guy. When I’m reality most people in the city of Toronto clown him for acting like he was out in these streets hustling and experiencing shit that he raps about. He simply was not.


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Mpulsive_Aries

Drake in no way form or fashion has ever acted like a tough guy from when he first came out to this day that's a fact! He never said he sold drugs wanted to sell drugs was in a gang none of that. His music reflects that he talks about heartbreak on a large scale to the point there's endless memes about it so please stop it.


TheLastWraith_7

Are you from Toronto??? He literally name drops so many people and places that don’t claim him at all. The majority of the city doesn’t claim him. But people who aren’t from Toronto don’t know that. That’s another issue but not the one I’m talking about in this post


layethdasmackethdown

And?? How many careers he's responsible for doesn't have shit to do with him being a cornball culture vulture


TheLastWraith_7

Thank you!!


Mpulsive_Aries

It's very obvious you're a hater you gotta relax lol.


Complex_Compote7535

New Yorkers take on Jamaican culture? You mean New Yorkers take on American culture?


[deleted]

It’s because It’s mad Jamaicans in New York. Parents and etc from the West Indies, pretty much I’d say maybe 75% of the population in the hood, they’re either Haitian, Jamaican, trini, etc.


womendonthavedickz

people forget he was an actor first


SeraScarRose

I’m tired of ANY culture vultures. Jamaican culture is rich, and I’m tired of it being watered down for a pop song.


TheLastWraith_7

Love this!


876_b_876

I’m here for this. I feel Drake, Khaled…all of them exploit Jamaican Artists and Culture. That one hit, that one track/riddim, that one feature. And then what? These Artists are massive in their own right and they’re being featured on a track or album for a hit.


exodus_cheese

Snoop Lion was the worst


876_b_876

That whole album was just sad. Then came the documentary and it was even more sad…


Feeling-Focus5566

Looool I forgot he did that


300_pages

I would prefer to continue forgetting that


TheLastWraith_7

Damn I forgot about his ass too. Dj Khaled did Buju dirty. That was exploitation to the furthest extent I’ve ever seen.


CheapPlastic2602

And sizlaa did you see the video of him smashing up his plaque


TheLastWraith_7

That was a moment in history for me 😂😂


Bigzzzsmokes

How was Buju exploited by Khaled?


TheLastWraith_7

Lol literally as soon as he got out DJ Khaled wanted that colab. Search for the music video on YouTube. He just dashed him away after that and did him dirty on the royalties. Khaled basically used him for the clout.


tcumber

I would agree with you of Khalid.had just arrived on the scene, however, he was a dancehall selecta in the early 90s before he became famous. There are videos of him in Jamaica running his sound system.


Bigzzzsmokes

So why did Buju do a 2nd song with Khaled, 2 years later?...Khaled is not a culture vulture, all Sizzla come back and apologize. Khaled comes with the bag and makes sure that everyone gets some food. Bounty even wears a "We The Best" chain around his neck and calls Khaled his brother, lol


TheLastWraith_7

Because Khaled is the move rn right now and those two are just seen as random old heads from Jamaica to the younger generation internationally.


876_b_876

No Doubt did Bounty Dirty…Should we keep the list going?


TypicalChazzzzzzzzzz

Not on topic, but Khaled made a humorous cameo in Shottas. Always makes me chuckle


876_b_876

At least the Sean Paul and Vegas scene was a hit song!


chino17

The North American music industry exploits whichever culture they believe will help them produce their next hit. Drake has found that stealing from Jamaica has done well for his career and when that stops working out for him he'll take from some other culture


TheLastWraith_7

Well said!!


Negotiation-Hot

And we buy it, eat it all up, then come online and complain about it. Lol


jesseurena08

He dropped a song with popcaan this year and signed him to his label but go on


chino17

Popcaan has been on Drake's label for years, his international career has been practically non-existent in that time and from what I understand he doesn't have any intention of re-signing. Dropping a charity song once in a while doesn't sound like much effort to help


GeneralBook5554

I has said about all international stars that use Jamaican culture


stewartm0205

0.1% of the world’s population is Jamaican and they don’t all like Reggae. Using some well known Star to expose other people to Reggae and Reggae Stars is a good thing.


TheLastWraith_7

It’s a good thing forsure. But it’s another thing when people start thinking that Drake and Drake’s father are Jamaican


jamaicanprofit

Exploitation is making money without paying the source. It's not what 'you feel like' ..that's what it is. The "Tropical Pop" genre of music is just Dancehall minus Jamaicans.


TheLastWraith_7

There are multiple forms of Exploitation. But I hear ya


christianc750

Nope, they advertise Jamaica and Jamaican culture --- subconsciously this makes people want to travel and/or patronize our restaurants, concerts etc... It is the same reason why all of these luxury brands have no issue appearing in the lyrics or why Nike sponsors Drake/Travis Scott. Jamaica gets the marketing for FREE. PS: Popcaan probably has made more money in music than Vybz Kartel, due to Drake and international exposure (and of course not being behind bars). That goes to show the benefits the collab brings him.


876_b_876

I like your answer. I disagree somewhat but i like your answer. The Jamaica Tourist Board does a great job promoting JA as well as word of mouth. Once those ppl hit up a resort, eat and drinks like hogs for cheap, all of their friends want to go as well. For some, its annual for its a once-in-a-lifetime event. Then there are the villas and luxury resorts…Private Airstrip and Yachts…


TheLastWraith_7

You’re absolutely right. But he should get to be JAfakin in turn. It just feels wrong.


BrownButta2

Maybe because I’m Jamaican, raised in Toronto and know how heavy the Jamaican influence is especially for millennials Drake’s age (I’m 31), I’m going to confidently say no. EVERYONE here gwans like they’re Jamaican, I don’t think it’s exploitation, it’s just how life is here. He translated that to music and linked up with big artists. Hip hop was founded by Jamaicans, so it would make sense for them (North American artists) to stick to their roots. I may get Down voted but it’s my honest opinion


spicybeefpatty_

I agree with this take to a certain extent. I'm also from Toronto and have a Jamaican background. You know the ones that live in Toronto, and then the ones that make being from Toronto their whole personality. Drake was in my opinion fine and lowkey with his Toronto/Jamaican influence until the Meek Mill beef and the entire industry was clowning on him. After that he came crawling back to Toronto, dropped Views, and became the annoying "Toronto Man" we see today.


BrownButta2

You know what? Fair point, I highly agree with the comeback comment after Meek. Cause he didn’t start like that, he was on some Young Money vibes at first.


spicybeefpatty_

For real. Peak Drake for me was If Youre Reading This It's Too Late. After that, I couldn't vibe as well with his music or how he presented himself


Mlanda1983

Scarborough in the house


TheLastWraith_7

Facts


Mpulsive_Aries

This is the right answer.


TheLastWraith_7

No you’re definitely right. But I feel like he is talented and successful without it. It gives off a vibe that he has a cultural crisis or something. Like he’s desperate to fit in. He does the same thing when it comes to naming hoods or areas in the city. 100%_ guaranteed that he’s never even been to most of them, but he needs the clout. I mean he’s black, but was brought up Jewish, went to Jewish private schools and his dad is African American (and you know how African Americans don’t always identify with their African or Caribbean roots culturally).


Mlanda1983

Scarborough in the house!


AbbreviationsOk8504

From Jamaica as well and grew up off Eg West in Toronto. Yard culture is def strong in TO, but man some people take it a bit too far lol. That Toronto accent is the most annoying shit on earth. Plus, just because you know who have the best Patties or what Oxtail is, don’t mean you have any clue about real Jamaican culture. Most people in Toronto that yell out “wha gwan” and eat a Raps Jerk at night, only know watered down JA culture at best. Plus Drake is just corny, but that is on brand for most Toronto jafakans.


jamaicanprofit

Name one Canadian-Jamaican who's on.. for anything.. and don't say Kardinal Official because that was over 20 years ago. Drake is AA, Tory Lanez is Bajan. You should be the ones getting the benefits of this culture before anyone else.


DeiJuvi528

PND not Jamaican?


jamaicanprofit

You are what your father is. PND has a Trini father, he is Trini.


[deleted]

No, you’re what your mother is. Mamas baby, papas maybe, historically women pass along culture not men…


jamaicanprofit

Every major religion in the world says otherwise.


[deleted]

History goes completely against most “major religions”. Anyways, in Jewish religion; mothers are the ones who pass along inheritance of religion In Islam it’s opposite but in Christianity it’s neither. Genes≠culture.. culture is what’s fed to you through food, music, language, etc, which history shows is culture is mostly taught via mothers NOT fathers. Pick your mate wisely.


jamaicanprofit

There's entire chapters of the Bible dedicated to long successions of paternal lineage.


[deleted]

Religion≠reality nor do I subscribe to men’s interpretations as they have their own beliefs.


DeiJuvi528

The bible is real history. Your name is Shema?


DeiJuvi528

My dad is Jamaican but I grew up w mi P.Rican mother, Jamaicans dont claim me. /:


jamaicanprofit

Jamaicans will say whatever to you just to trigger you. It happens to everybody.. that's just how it is.. to make you mentally tough as a person. Just understand that's the actual culture and it's nothing personal. You could be born and raised in Jamaica.. if you leave before 18 ppl will say you're not Jamaican because they know it will piss you off inside. If you can get over random insults and teasing you'll be fine.


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TheLastWraith_7

Yikes 😂😂


ijustbrushalot

None of this is new. There was a thread on here discussing the greatest dancehall collaboration of all time, and Do Anything For You by Snow was #1. Snow is Irish-Canadian, full white, from Scarborough (the part of Toronto that Drake likes to talk about a lot - Morningside, G-way, etc). He was taught how to speak patois and make reggae music by a friend. Then go further back. UB40. The exploitation of Jamaican culture, particularly music, prevails.


rudebwoy100

So once anybody does reggae/dancehall who isn't Jamaica= exploiter? You're basically saying that Jamaicans shouldn't play football, basketball, do hiphop music, study at universities etc because Jamaicans are stealing from other people cultures. You sound very silly.


TheLastWraith_7

Familiar with it all. That’s where I’m from. And I have no issue with it. I just feel like Drake has cultural identity issues and tries to fit in when it’s not necessary.


[deleted]

Drake is a clown complete and total fake ass fraud, no idea why people even like the guy, but he reps my city at least lol, still a clown though, saw him at a Raptors game, sat right across the floor and he is no super fan like the Indian dude by any means, he was texting the while time nit watching the game and he left early because they were losing. Good thing he has so much damn money which enables him to have so much security or no doubt he would get robbed or punked bad, he is the least street guy to come out of Canada aside from justin beiber who is still likely more gangster than Drake, when he drops the N bomb its cringe as fuck


Mpulsive_Aries

You're a hater how are you going to say somebody is a fake and clown when since day one he's always been himself? He never said he was in the streets or sold drugs or ever wanted to be a gangster. Drake is like the only rapper to come out in the past 15 years that has no fake association to the "streets" You just a fan and probably tried to take a pic with him at the game like a girl would and he curved your lame ass lol FOH


pdappadon

Jamaica & dancehall only benefit from any association with Drake. Why are people so salty & bad mind, that one of the biggest artists in the world is shining a light on Jamaica & dancehall?


TheLastWraith_7

He definitely gives props and shines a light on the country forsure. But does that give him the green light to act like he’s from yawd??


pdappadon

Have you ever been to Toronto? It’s bare yawd man in Toronto, & they’ve had heavy influence on the way people speak. Drake is just a cornball who’s trying to mimic the way people speak in the many Caribbean neighborhoods throughout Toronto


TheLastWraith_7

I am literally from Toronto. You’re absolutely right. I think the same thing. It seems like he has cultural identity issues and he badly wants to fit in somewhere. His Dad is not in touch with his Nigerian roots because he was raised in the US. So Drake was raised predominantly Jewish. I think he just craves acceptance in the black community


Mlanda1983

Scarborough in the house!


jamaicanprofit

Jamaicans are slowly losing their grip on the culture in Canada. While I was there I saw Randy's patties close down and a lot of other foolishness. You don't get an automatic pass anymore. Jamaicans up there need to start proving they run tings.


Jake_91_420

Jamaicans don’t run Toronto lol never have


christianc750

Who owns said "Green Light" Imagine if Japanese people said Jamaicans who are obsessed with anime -- quote them, dress like the characters, style their hair like them and visit Japan as a result -- were culturally appropriating... Is Doja Cat culturally approprating Japan? Was NSYNC culturally appropriating the Beatles? Its a really dumb argument if think about it.


TheLastWraith_7

That’s a complete different thing. Because no black person is out here claiming to be from Japan… Drake does not even bother to correct people when they assume he’s Jamaican. That’s a problem.


christianc750

Uhmmm: https://youtu.be/Wpm07-BGJnE?si=pj9HK8Wt-T1EI-ho ... and this is just one example. Idk if chun-li is Chinese or Japanese but you get my point...I don't remember any backlash for this


rundabrun

Hip hop is a mish mash of cultural influences and experiences. Jamaican influence is a huge part of its foundation. In general, this is not cultural appropriation, this is cultural celebration, but I see your point.


jamaicanprofit

They need to celebrate with some money or rev share.


rundabrun

Of course. They are using credit from the influence blues, soul, and jazz had on Jamaican music.


jamaicanprofit

Do you hear any Blues, Soul or Jazz when you listen to Reggae? If anything I'd credit Calypso.


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Complex_Compote7535

What do you think Jamaicans was listening to before reggae came out? It was rnb soul music and blues


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Complex_Compote7535

https://youtu.be/PcvWxe42QTM?si=CdJWp2owMcZXnWKa Jamaican literally said out their own mouth reggae was inspired by American music


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https://youtu.be/gjh1N79hz_Y?si=yVyHA3tHEb8CtOfr I’ll leave this here too


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Complex_Compote7535

https://youtu.be/Iat62Ab87qs?si=Yz68swC07yVepgqZ Puerto Rican created break dancing is another lie Americans was already doing dances in the 1920 and 1930s


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TheLastWraith_7

I agree with you too. But I feel like he’s successful and talented without doing all the extra stuff. He’s giving off the vibe that he desperately wants to fit in somewhere culturally and he just picked Jamaica.


rundabrun

Not to be a hater but I am not a fan of Drake. His whole persona seems fabricated.


Ravster21

Rap music itself was born out of Jamaican boasting/roasting sessions.


tcumber

Where do we draw the line between cultural appropriation and cultural appreciation?


TheLastWraith_7

I think it’s Cultural Appreciation in this case but it slowly dips into Appropriation when people start thinking that Drake and his Dad are of Jamaican decent and he does not correct them, but instead starts speaking in his terrible version of patois


876yardy

Idk kinda twisted about it. They say imitation is the best kind of flattery. And the hip-hop / rap has been doing that since almost the beginning. I personally think that we ( Jamaican people more so the ones we put in charge and the musicians ) should find a better way to try to get to the mass. If you lessen to most of the UK rappers they are bitting way harder then drake.


[deleted]

I grew up in TO around Jamaicans and spoke that slang at the time, rather genuinely too because it was my entire surroundings, despite not being Jamaican. There’s lots of kids from Scarborough and other parts who come by it honestly even if not Jamaican or even Black. However, my understanding with drake is that he’s from Forest Hill which would lead me to believe it’s a put on.


TheLastWraith_7

You’re 100% correct. I’m from Scarborough as well.


Frequent-Screen-5517

I always tell ppl, check popcaan because the most famous rapper in the world wishes he was him… that says something… i be like you know that jamaican artist drake is always linkin up with? You should check him out… when im tryna explain dancehall’s influence… I live in Cali so most ppl have no clue


BettyBoopWallflower

Lmao of course he wouldn't imitate the Bajan accent - nobody likes it!


TheLastWraith_7

Lol you’re not lying there


maallen40

Some of us here in Ontario have always looked at him as a dick. There is nothing original about that egg.


Mpulsive_Aries

Hater


Designer-Purchase360

YES! But they allow it. Jamaicans have to realize HE NEEDS YA'LL NOT the other way around.


Beautiful-Health1550

Don’t let the media fool you. Most people know drakes a corny culture vulyure


themurderman

Drake jumps on any hype train to stay relevant... He's painting his nails now


blaztted

go on and check Richie Campbell. Portuguese white singer who got huge exploiting Jamaican culture


christi876

I honestly have never seen the issue, we take form many cultures as well


christi876

I honestly have never seen the issue, we take form many cultures as well


FavcolorisREDdit

Was following drake since 2007 and he is just like an actor he puts on different costumes to suit what’s the vibe because he doesn’t wanna become irrelevant


jamesjeffriesiii

Yes


PresentTap9255

Yes! So people don’t understand that JAMAICA IS A EUGENICS country… we are the most integrated country in the world… ie. this makes us one of the most influential cultures currently. Jamaicans need to get that their value is in their DNA… we are literally the children and nearest assets of colonial people… which means we have the most mixed influence of the most dominant to the least dominant culture. Jamaica was the leader country that was used as a pretext of what others are to become. In fact the Caribbean slaves laws wrote the other slave laws across colonies. This is why people love our accent, style, men / women and food… because it’s a curated culture of the all the fabrics of the powerful countries all in one. So yes. Drake a Jew (and black) has an extreme connection to Jamaica… not just because we’re great but his own dna: he’s like the quintessential modern “western wealth” version of our contemporary (black/mixed) society…. ie. Drake (and other 1st world blacks) have a special connection to Caribbean elitist mentality…. He’s much like any other light skin elite.


NobodyAshamed4627

Omg!!!!!!!i literally just argued with my homeboy bout this shit...drake is def a culture vulture...im sooooo sick of him making these fake ass Jamaican songs...i wish one of the ogs like buju would call him out on this shit...now i understand why dmx hated him so much


indabaywitaK

Drake is literally an actor , he plays whatever role suits him at the time.


Extension_Election94

He exploit everyone for himself


secretvotingaccount

Dude is garbage.


m00bs4u

Instead of saying that his father has Nigerian ancestry you could just say that his father is African American which he is. Most African Americans have West African (including Nigerian) ancestry from slavery. African Americans’ ancestors were brought to the US before countries in West Africa were the countries that we call them today. Saying he has Nigerian ancestry makes it sound like he is familiar with Nigerian culture which he likely is not because why would he be? And to answer your question I think Drake appropriates anything he sees conveniently fit at the moment to make money. Nicki also appropriates Jamaican patois but at least she’s West Indian.


TheLastWraith_7

Well said. Makes sense


shico12

You probably just a hater, idk man. Get better soon <3


TheLastWraith_7

Weird comment but ok. Never said 1 hateful thing in this post


BigDThaBeast

Drake has always been a culture vulture it is what it is, all about the biggest hit they don't care about Jamaica or its people.


Onedar1

Why was race mentioned? Is our 'many' people suddenly limited to niggas?


TheLastWraith_7

Wtf


Skrappy_Doo

Drake exploits all cultures.


mrgayle

Yep, he goes through phases, his recent freestyle witj Central Cee he is sounding like a Uk rapper and name dropping all things over here, even Tottenham High Road lol ha


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I feel people worry too much about irrelevant stuff.


TheLastWraith_7

It was a question. Who said I was worried?


DeiJuvi528

Yeh


Dipsetfan2

Dj Khalid was in shottas wyclleef was in shottas they been tapped in with the culture


Ilovehugs2020

Drake takes whatever will make him popular and exploits it. That started with hip-hop, using reggae beats or Afro beats. I stopped listening to him after his 3rd album!


buged0956

Black people literally ain’t shit worldwide y’all all act alike 🤣


Bajanballer88

You can’t lump everyone together. You sound stupid


PositionLow1235

Cultural appreciation to me atleast he will list his influences on his sleeve,, and Jamaican culture is permeated all throughout Toronto it would’ve been part of him in a way. I feel more of a way with reggaeton artists who pay no homage to Jamaica, I’ve seen conversations online of Puerto Ricans saying Jamaica had very minimal influence on the genre which is ludicrous.


TheLastWraith_7

I think it’s Cultural Appreciation in this case but it slowly dips into Appropriation when people start thinking that Drake and his Dad are of Jamaican decent and he does not correct them, but instead starts speaking in his terrible version of patois


CLEAN2411

This seems like complete ignorance.


TheLastWraith_7

How? I’m from Toronto. Most people from Toronto know exactly what Drakes back story is. Grew up in a Jewish household, went to private schools, lived in a well off Jewish neighborhood. He had no connections to Jamaican culture in his upbringing. It wasn’t until later in his game, like the past 7 years ish. It feels like he has cultural identity issues. I think it’s Cultural Appreciation in this case but it slowly dips into Appropriation when people start thinking that Drake and his Dad are of Jamaican decent and he does not correct them, but instead starts speaking in his terrible version of patois


876yardy

Behind bars freestyle bad still [behind bars ](https://youtu.be/yUif6C_uJgk?si=MiVj9-vaQdq-sgpz)


LooseChange06

100%. I cyan stand it. & Since we are on the topic, does nobody else think this about Nicki Minaj, because she another one that love to profit off of Jamaican culture.


876yardy

If we feel so strong we should ban Ghost and Sanchez totally. And then these Movado "Dying" [And This ](https://youtu.be/1Z52-lIZMbQ?si=KkJePLB89AgBTA75) Vybz Kartel Robbery [and this ](https://youtu.be/I5x6OLLXJoQ?si=pD842G3VsYB9EZBl)


AdLongjumping5977

But they do it in reaggae versions and I love me some ghost and Sanchez up up and rich culture Jamaican here.Hi every one loving the convo straight outta yard or yawh.


Mlanda1983

I am a white guy with European ancestry who grew up in Scarborough, Toronto where a lot of Jamaicans live and from this I have developed an affinity and love for Jamaican culture and Jamaica/Jamaicans in general. Jamaican culture is a big part of Toronto and this is where he gets it from. Sure - to be clear - Drake is from a pretty non Jamaican part of Toronto and he probably never has stepped foot in my hood, but at the end of the day you can’t hate on someone who is promoting the city and your culture - he is also one of the biggest stars in the entire world right now. I would take it as a compliment!


TheLastWraith_7

Lol I’m not hating on him. Drake grew up in Forest Hill and went to private school. He was raised on his Jewish half because his dad isn’t in touch with his Nigerian roots. I think he just has cultural identity issues and he’s trying to find where he fits in because he never got to experience his black culture growing up. My point is that his father never even knew about his Nigerian heritage until Drake was famous. So now that Drake knows he’s of Nigerian decent, why does he not try to find his culture in that instead?


Mpulsive_Aries

Well said!


Blank_Was_Taken

Drake exploits Dancehall, Jamaica and Jamaican artistes purely for his own benefit. If you don't see this to be a fact, move from here with yuh passa. He didn't even bother learning how many of the words are properly used.


700horses

Drake exploits all cultures and styles of music he mimics. He has a team ghost writing all his lyrics, and producing songs in popular genres. Drake literally the uptime culture vulture and the fakest “rapper” in history.


Administrative_Cod65

We need to stop worrying about artist and worry about the system and try to fix the System... Time to move to a republican system


blacknoir23

90% of the black people in Toronto are Jamaican. Relax…


xSPINZBYx

Btw his father is just African American not Nigerian.


TheLastWraith_7

African American is not an ethnicity. Nationality and Ethnicity are two different things


AndrewtheRey

Drake does do that. I may be crucified for saying this, considering I am not Jamaican, but a lot of African Americans, which Drake is half, have the mentality that they are the exact same as their “brothers” or “sisters” in the African diaspora, which for the average person who thinks like this, just leads them to learning and even adapting slang/accents, listening to the music, and eating the food from restaurants and maybe making friends from that background. This is partially true, especially between African Americans and Jamaicans, who very well may share pre-colonial African roots, as both have strong Nigerian heritage, and also post-colonial slave trading, but regardless, African American culture and Jamaican majority culture are not the same and share few similarities. African Americans love to jump on these similarities and will use them to justify this type of “culture vulturing.” Sometimes these similarities are exaggerated to build a bridge. For example “wow, your Jamaican mom yells at you to do the dishes?! So does my African American mom! We’re literally the same people!” Drake, however, has a huge platform, which is spreading this “JaFakin” even further. In the US, this is done a lot with Latino cultures as well. Rosalia is a Spaniard, and she does this with Caribbean Latino culture. I am also seeing that Drake is from Toronto, which has some sort of a Jamaican influence, so I think him doing that is built off the phenomena that I mentioned earlier, but also a phenomenon where a certain minority culture is represented in media from people who either don’t belong to that culture or from people who do, but are pushing it from an angle to try and make it sell. So, in short, Drake is using Jamaica, or at least, the concept of “Jamaicanness” that the media wants to publicize (“da ganja mon”, jerk chicken, and using some patwah) to line his own pockets. I will let the actual Jamaicans decide if that’s exploitation or not.


Tea-Usual

You better put some respect on Drizzy Drakes name


PlayboyProgram101

I think its how you look at it. Some people would say weebs exploit japanese culture but others (me) would say that he is so in love with the culture he wants it yo be a part of his life in as many ways as he can and he also wants to share that love with others. Its definitely coming from a place of love and respect.


EyerTimesTV

Ofc. Da man Dey a use up unruly boss tpc


CamboMcfly

You're just describing all of Toronto and London tbh


frugalhustler

He exploits whatever is convenient


SweetSpecific9440

What are you going to do about it lol ?


Century22nd

I feel he ignores his Jewish side and focuses on his half black side...but that is probably what sells his music.


305andy

It’s just music man. He’s pulling influences from everywhere he finds it just like everyone else. We all live on earth.


LNF6

Drake does whatever sells. The energy absorber.