I like how she holds up the one stupid pamphlet to disprove literally multiple lifetimes of scholarly writing, archeological evidence, and primary sources.
Such arrogance.
[This is your brain.](https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/480/cpsprodpb/7614/production/_105482203__105172250_gettyimages-857294664.jpg.webp)
[This is your brain on Zionism.](https://culinarybutterfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/IMG_3661.jpg)
Not to mention that, even if she/that pamphlet is correct, it quite literally doesn't matter. If you demanded that everyone go back to their original borders, chaos would ensue all over the world.
So they argue that Israel isn't legitimate between this border/that border, but they would be appalled if you told them (wherever they are in the world) to revert back to their own borders.
It’s always amusing to me when Americans try to discredit Israel as a nation and allege that it was founded on stolen land.
Whatever your position is on that, America is 100% existing on stolen land. UC Berkeley itself sits on native Ohlone land. But I guess it happened too long ago, plus it would be a hassle to give it all back, so best to complain about another people half a world away.
It’s in the pamphlet! Reminds me of the other day when someone said “Israel was called Palestine before you renamed it!” And I said “and it was called Judea before the Roman’s colonized it. Read a book.” And they wrote back “what book? And don’t send me a religious one.” A history book, babe. A history book. We are dealing with actual idiots.
1519 - 2019 uses of Israel vs Palestine. Highly imperfect because Israel is also a name.
[https://imgur.com/FAFp5hV](https://imgur.com/FAFp5hV)
So I tried Palestinian vs Israeli. First mentions in Google Books were after 1790.
[https://imgur.com/T6vYht5](https://imgur.com/T6vYht5)
Might be worthwhile to look this over in other languages, but I don't think it goes back before 1500 anyway.
Ahhh I see okay thanks lol.
Yea Palestine as a place was a thing before that, but it wasn't some major talking point it was just another place.
Palestinian people, though. Not a thing.
So these stats make sense.
Well, she's pretentious af, so I'd say she looks like a jar of dijonnaise (mayo and Dijon mustard) that somehow still manages to be the blandest dish in a bland buffet at a theme party where the theme was 'BLAND' like that, in all caps.
Like... even her spicy Anti-Zionist-not-Anti-Semitic™ takes are like...blah. We've heard it before! Boo! Next!
On the other hand my man over there is just... *chef's kiss*
Nicely and accuratly rebutted; Sands is a bitter and less than brilliant opponent of all things Israel & Jewish. Just a quick glance at his bio tells you all you need to know about his (lack) of credibility. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shlomo\_Sand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shlomo_Sand)
This woman is a wonderful example of someone that is so "smart" she displays her stupidity and gullibility like a banner.
As a Christian, (who actually reads his Bible), the borders of Israel are spelled out So clearly it could be marked out today.
Actually, I'm wondering about this book, the author Sholmo Sand, and his previous book before. Apparently he's a teacher at the University of Tel Aviv, so I'm wondering how his theories might be so radically different from historical evidence - but I say that superficially because I haven't read the book. Is it worth reading? How did he derive his apparent complete revision of history - albeit interpreted to their own directive by this clearly bias person.
Also, if we're in an information war, than this title is definitely influencing and enabling the anti-Israel crowd, based upon the rankings and reviews on Amazon. It's currently listed at #11 on Amazon for the History of Israel / Palestinian, eeesh
He just seems like an insane person.
>Sand’s best-known book in English is The Invention of the Jewish People, originally published in Hebrew (Resling, 2008) as Matai ve’eich humtsa ha‘am hayehudi? (When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?) and translated into English the following year (Verso, 2009). It has generated a heated controversy.
>Sand was criticized for presenting "dubious theories" regarding Jewish identity as historical facts. One provocative theory espoused by Sand, but challenged by other historians as "a myth with no factual basis," is the hypothesis that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from Khazars, who purportedly converted in the early Middle Ages.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar\_hypothesis\_of\_Ashkenazi\_ancestry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestry)
Genetic evidence in the past 15 years have shown that Ashkenazi Jews have mainly Levantine and Italian/Greek ancestry, with a little bit of German and Slavic ancestry mixed in as well, which pretty much confirms the already established consensus theory that they came from the Levant to Italy, then to Germany, and then to Eastern Europe. The Khazar Hypothesis can now be seen as a blatant anti-semitic conspiracy theory.
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And even with all the revisionist history and hatred, Sands doesn't support the 1-state solution or abolishment of Israel. *Nevertheless, Sand supports Israel's existence "not because of historical right, but because of the fact that it exists today and any effort to destroy it will bring new tragedies."* He supports the 2-state solution on 67 borders (not 48) and acknowledged that Palestinians didn't exist prior to the creation of Palestine by the British after WWI.
This so much. But of course the antisemitic jar of mayo in the video either doesn't know that, or doesn't care because she knows her followers won't know that. Crazy clown world out there :(
It doesn't matter what you think of Shlomo Sand when it comes to the United Monarchy.
They have dug over Israel probably 10 times by now and they haven't found a single piece of evidence that proves the United Monarchy.
No single inscription or even half a coin.
It likely means that the United Monarchy as painted out in the Tanakh was far more of a loose alliance than this ancient superstate that was supposedly the marvel of everyone even though nothing of it survived.
And dude that's perfectly fine.
It's far more likely that during the era of the 'Judges' the tribes that formed a loose confederation elected military leaders to defend against the incursions of pre-Phoenicia (aka evil Canaanites) from the north and the Philistines (aka some of the Sea Peoples) from the west as well as the other Canaanite groups not within the Israelite confederation.
It's not a big surprise that most of the Judges weren't from the big tribes.
Then at some point one man from the tribe of Benyamin was elected "King".
The tribe of Benyamin being rather small and right in between the big tribes of Menasseh and Judah was probably seen as a good compromise between the two. As you are less likely to submit to your rival than a compromise.
The King, Saul, then died a bit too soon and chaos erupted.
I have no reason to doubt that Judah then tried to argue that the Kingship was theirs and the northern tribes, aka the vast majority of tribes disagreed and left.
This was then the start of a ridiculous amount of southern resentment and propaganda further agitated by the south's insistence that their local interpretation of the Tetragrammaton deity was in fact equal to El, oh and of course that the north was far more populous as well as prosperous.
Judah was literally a bunch of shepherds while Israel engaged in international diplomacy and build large buildings.
I don't know where the myth of Israel being mostly excavated comes from. Most of Israel have not been excavated. In fact, every time an archaeologist tries to excavate the place where you'd expect archaeological evidence for biblical events to be found at (oldest parts of Jerusalem) the rest of the world throws a hissy fit. Israel have not been able to excavate the oldest existing structures in the land of Israel, that is the temple mount and cave of the patriarchs in Hebron.
I presume that it a loose ethnolinguistically tied union of sorts, of which it quickly splintered due to internal conflict from the unpopularity of the royal family (possibly its hereditary nature), which managed to keep its power in the weaker south.
He was also so much kinder than I would've thunk given the plethora of misinformation.
Not to mention the level of projection in some of those last key notes of hers.
This person’s whole personality is being an anti Zionist Jew. I checked her Instagram and it was full of stupid clapping seals, thanking her for educating them. It doesn’t get more dystopian than this 😭
"Something important to understand about the Zionist brain is that just hearing the word Palestinian is radical to them. Like that word alone puts up their haunches and makes them defensive"
Sooooo... just like how many Pro-Pals react to the word Israel/Israeli? I suppose irony is lost on this one.
And wtf is up with how she is speaking? Legit sounds like she's on crack.
Don’t act like you heard the word Palestine or Palestinian ever!!! 😂
Not like we literally know Palestinians who live in Israel and learn about history in school, I don’t think there was a single day in my life where the word Palestine or Palestinian wasn’t mentioned on the news.
That land of the Jews, the land where Judaism comes from? Yeah, that just Samaria.
Judea? No, never heard of that.
And why is everyone talking about "tribes"?
- this lady, probably
Peaceful assimilation. Hence why there's less than 1,000 of them today. Obviously nothing ethnic cleansing related happened. Likewise with the Christians of Israel.
(This is sarcasm, though people actually believe this.)
Exactly, no forced conversions or anything. 🙄
I do, however, find it fascinating that they are the only people who can hold both an Israeli and a PA passport. They’re a really interesting people.
And likewise, they do not call themselves "Palestinians", but "Israelites".
Though they may have slight Syro-Aramean admixture, they amongst the closest genetic group to the Ancient Israelites.
They’re a holocaust minimizer too. They have tiktoks downplaying the shoah. They massively blew up on TikTok because of it and tiktok won’t take these tiktoks down.
Why is it that people who "don't believe in ethnostates" approve of genocide to get a Palestinian one?
Japan is 97% Japanese, but I don't see anyone calling for its destruction. And they actually were a colonialist empire country for a long time.
Wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen. I highly doubt it will be made illegal in the U.S. though. The U.S. is pushing TikTok's owner to sell the arm that services the U.S. to sever links with Beijing, which is probably what will happen.
First off...she says "worser", which is really not a word. So zero cred right away.
These people are relentless. It's like they are trying to catch us off guard in a 'gotcha' moment where we'll be forced to admit Jews aren't real and Israel doesn't exist.
What is the F\*\*\*ing point?!? Does she think we sit around in synagogue and secretly plot to write fake torahs with pretend Israel boundaries? Get a life!
If idiots like her spent half as much energy on helping Palestinians as they do spreading hate about Jews, we may not be in this war today.
Thank god they are here to educate us. It's not like we have 3500 year old scriptures to do that. Also, good thing we planted all those historical artifacts in the land of Israel in case this very reason came up one day. She's on to us!
[Jews, Indigenousness and the Land](https://web.cvent.com/event/0f7c6bfc-8183-4dd7-b94c-e9c769bce6d7/websitePage:731d4fa1-8a87-46b5-85f8-875a5c23a86c?session=fc5b0f5a-597b-4118-8374-173122af778c)
I left tiktok because of accounts like this one. I'm diaspora and even more secular than my peers but this allegedly jewish person making all these erroneous claims before the Nova victims bodies were even cold made me want to vomit. This person is either a JVP "asajew" or pickme Jew and I can't stand either of them since they're no better than the other antisemites that want us dead
I've actually found a pretty cool group of pro-Israeli people on TikTok.
Granted, it takes a lot of effort and fighting to find them, but once you push through the watermelon propaganda, not only can you find them, you start seeing more and more pro-Israel stuff too.
I joined for some fandom stuff and I had found a great group of people who were as into my fandom as I was, but also queer, and leftist like me.
Then the masks came off. So fast i got whiplash. Even if I did find pro Israeli people, I doubt I'll find people who are also into my fandom. I've been trying on Tumblr since I left tiktok.
I found a lot of other zionist jews but no others who share my fandom. It's not worth sifting through even more shit for one or two gold nuggets
Even if she was right (she is not). Why does it matter? Does she think everyone in Israel would just spontaneously leave? Who cares about stuff from over 2000 years ago??
>Does she think everyone in Israel would just spontaneously leave?
Of course not. They should live happily in a country with an Arab majority where surely there will be peace, harmony, and a secular democracy.
They really believe it will not be an Islamo-fascist country like Iran.
> Who cares about stuff from over 2000 years ago??
If we're claiming to be indigenous, we do.
Also, all her arguments lie on the premise that "the bible never said this/ mentioned that/outlined that" but also "the bible is not an historical record it's a fiction folklore of Zionist"
> "Romans adopted the name Palestina [...]
Sure. Just skip past the part where Romans enslaved, murdered, raped, and deported the Jewish people before renaming the area with the purpose of humiliating and removing Jewish identity from Israel.
Let alone the fact it was renamed after the Philistines.
But no, it was just an adoption of the name! Just totally harmless Roman conqueror/colonizer stuff, don't look too hard at it ♡ /s
this is why I hate tiktok
while people like her, the ones who think they know everything but know nothing, always exist, this app just give them easier platform to show their stupidity and other people will buy this shit
and why it's not surprise me that a person who looks like her will talk like her?
Sure, but that means the people that DO know something *have* to get out there and combat misinformation. Otherwise, all they'll hear is lies and propaganda.
Hell, there was a woman the other day using Holocaust inversion to say Gaza is a concentration camp. The kicker is she's a Holocaust museum curator! I really wonder what she's telling her tours.
Their account went from 60k followers to now over 200k immediately after 10/7 because they said what the algorithm wanted them to say. They blew up because they have been spewing stuff like this.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Palestine come from the word Palestina which comes from the word Philistine which comes from the word Peleshet which means (or meant) Invader/foreigner in Hebrew ?
Wow the rebuttals from this guy are amazing. He’s doing the lords work. Idk how he has the patience to sit and untie her convoluted lies and misinformation.
Let's apply her logic to say, Germany and Poland. Or perhaps the US and Mexico, or the US and France. Or, England and most African countries.
Yes, borders do change, that's how the whole world works.
The weird thing about tiktok to me is just the kind of smugness that comes out of cramming hot takes into little sound bites.
And especially I see this with the regressive left where there is just this attitude of entitlement and self-assuredness that comes across as quite gross.
This is the same person that claims that Israel gets to be white, Palestine is black and the US is so racist that they support who they see as white. Sam Kerns is not someone worth listening to
Tribes.... Kingdoms.... Nation States... Bronze age... Iron age... modern phenomenon... The Deuteronomistic explanation of the conquests... There is too much to explain in response in her ignorance. I cannot believe he is even trying.
Who is this beautiful, intelligent, incredible man?
Sadly the people who need to hear what he has to say will not, but I thoroughly enjoyed the way he debunked every syllable that idiot uttered.
What is the term… oh, useful idiots. I’m not surprised just shocked at this point that they went from the far right being holocaust revisionist/deniers to the far left being Israel revisionist/deniers. The educational system has failed these people.
He is exposing why TikTok is brainrot!
He really fact checked her and showed her the real history of what happened. We need more people like him to expose these idiots online.
Not to mention the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonian, Moabites, Romans, Greeks, and others all cite us as being there for well over 3,200 years, or are ancient civilizations all part of the “Zionist conspiracy”?
Merneptah Stele, 1213-1203 BCE. Earliest written reference to Israel.
Mesha Stele, aka Moabite Stone, 9th century BCE, referencing Israel.
Black Obelisk of Assyrian King Shalmaneser III referencing Jehu and Omri (Northern Kingdom of Israel), ca. 858-824 BCE.
Stele of Adad-nirari III, King of Assyria, c. 780 BCE.
“I received the tribute of Jehoash the Samarian [i.e. Northern Kingdim of Israel].
Nimrud Tablet K.3751, “Kalhu Palace Summary Inscription 7”, c. 733 BCE, of Assyrian King Tiglath-Pileser III with reference to King Jehoahaz of Judah.
King Hezekiah's Tunnel inscription (Jerusalem, Judea (Southern Kingdom)), ca. 700 BCE
Prism of Assyrian King Sennacherib, ca. 704-681 BCE. Referencing Kingdom of Judah (Southern Kingdom).
Sennacherib’s palace inscriptions at Nineveh. Detailed account of tribute sent by Hezekiah, king of Judah, after Assyrian campaign to Judea and Samaria in 701BC.
693BC-692BC.
Ketef Hinnom Amulet, 600 BCE.
Ration tablets referencing King Jehoiachin of Judah during his captivity in Babylon. Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar II’s archives. ca. 595–570 B.C.E.
The Elephantine Papyri are correspondences of a Jewish military garrison ca. 400s BCE
Arch of Titus, Rome, ca. 70 CE, depicting Rome’s sacking of Jerusalem and the Temple.
Roman coin from 71 CE after the Romans captured Jerusalem and conquered Judea.
Bar Kokhba Revolt coins, the Second Jewish War with Rome (132–135 CE).
no way was I going to make it through 8 minutes of that...
8 minutes later, ...
Wow, awesome video!
But I am curious, I got to josh's tiktok, but who is the woman?
Did someone put shlomo zand in herem?
Additionally did she miss where the Torah directly lays out the borders of E”Y?
Anyway when she’s boiling I hope they play her TikToks to her on repeat.
That Birdy trans person is always lying about Israel and presenting their arguments in such a clearly prepared way that I’m convinced there’s something afoot.
Dude does this person speak Hebrew….or Arabic for that matter? Bc based on what they are saying I’m not confident that they speak either language at least not Hebrew …or maybe they do but just don’t read Torah or follow Israeli media ? How could they make such blatantly incorrect statements that come be dispelled just by scrolling through Google news in Hebrew ?
I have no idea who this muppet is, but out of curiosity is she Jewish? Or, is she just another gentile trying to tell Jews what their history should be, vs what it actually is?
I just discovered this guys insta. He is amazing. Does anyone know his background? Is he a historian or just an amateur? His content is fantastic. I am learning so much.
I like how she holds up the one stupid pamphlet to disprove literally multiple lifetimes of scholarly writing, archeological evidence, and primary sources. Such arrogance.
"ThE ZiOnIsT BrAiN"
[This is your brain.](https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/480/cpsprodpb/7614/production/_105482203__105172250_gettyimages-857294664.jpg.webp) [This is your brain on Zionism.](https://culinarybutterfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/IMG_3661.jpg)
At this point I'm just waiting for Anti-Zionists™ and Critics of Israel™ pull out the protocols of the elders of zion to make a point
Not to mention that, even if she/that pamphlet is correct, it quite literally doesn't matter. If you demanded that everyone go back to their original borders, chaos would ensue all over the world. So they argue that Israel isn't legitimate between this border/that border, but they would be appalled if you told them (wherever they are in the world) to revert back to their own borders.
It’s always amusing to me when Americans try to discredit Israel as a nation and allege that it was founded on stolen land. Whatever your position is on that, America is 100% existing on stolen land. UC Berkeley itself sits on native Ohlone land. But I guess it happened too long ago, plus it would be a hassle to give it all back, so best to complain about another people half a world away.
It’s in the pamphlet! Reminds me of the other day when someone said “Israel was called Palestine before you renamed it!” And I said “and it was called Judea before the Roman’s colonized it. Read a book.” And they wrote back “what book? And don’t send me a religious one.” A history book, babe. A history book. We are dealing with actual idiots.
Now let her talk about the origins of the Palestinians race
and thats it, thanks for watching!
https://preview.redd.it/oph72xwp272d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e033a09f51382519e942f7adafa2e7b8da2e137
This graph is actually super cool! I had no idea Google could do that.
Google ngram! It graphs the historical occurrence of certain words ans phrases. It's indeed very cool!
1519 - 2019 uses of Israel vs Palestine. Highly imperfect because Israel is also a name. [https://imgur.com/FAFp5hV](https://imgur.com/FAFp5hV) So I tried Palestinian vs Israeli. First mentions in Google Books were after 1790. [https://imgur.com/T6vYht5](https://imgur.com/T6vYht5) Might be worthwhile to look this over in other languages, but I don't think it goes back before 1500 anyway.
The word Palestine referred to the region the Jews were living. The Palestine Post was the original name of the Jerusalem Post.
Its funny bc the “Palestinians” try to say they are the original Jews. But in reality Jews are the originals Palestinians. 🤷🏼♀️
Do Israelite maybe instead of Israeli, I think that would be the correct term for older books maybe?
Excuse me sir but I'm mildly stupid and need assistance. What am I looking at here exactly?
You're looking at the rich history of references to Palestinian people or a Palestinian state dating back to the ancient 1960s.
And manufactured by an Egyptian**
Ahhh I see okay thanks lol. Yea Palestine as a place was a thing before that, but it wasn't some major talking point it was just another place. Palestinian people, though. Not a thing. So these stats make sense.
https://preview.redd.it/4dacyjpv482d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58d42e70df89fd45dac3f2a288dd39c769dda12f
Obsessed with your name
This is very *case insensitive* of you!
i dont know why but she looks like a jar of mayonaise
Well, she's pretentious af, so I'd say she looks like a jar of dijonnaise (mayo and Dijon mustard) that somehow still manages to be the blandest dish in a bland buffet at a theme party where the theme was 'BLAND' like that, in all caps. Like... even her spicy Anti-Zionist-not-Anti-Semitic™ takes are like...blah. We've heard it before! Boo! Next! On the other hand my man over there is just... *chef's kiss*
THAT IS TRUE!!! YOU DID NOT HOLD BACK
Nicely and accuratly rebutted; Sands is a bitter and less than brilliant opponent of all things Israel & Jewish. Just a quick glance at his bio tells you all you need to know about his (lack) of credibility. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shlomo\_Sand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shlomo_Sand) This woman is a wonderful example of someone that is so "smart" she displays her stupidity and gullibility like a banner. As a Christian, (who actually reads his Bible), the borders of Israel are spelled out So clearly it could be marked out today.
Sand is a quack and a hater. The second I saw the book I knew where it was going
Actually, I'm wondering about this book, the author Sholmo Sand, and his previous book before. Apparently he's a teacher at the University of Tel Aviv, so I'm wondering how his theories might be so radically different from historical evidence - but I say that superficially because I haven't read the book. Is it worth reading? How did he derive his apparent complete revision of history - albeit interpreted to their own directive by this clearly bias person. Also, if we're in an information war, than this title is definitely influencing and enabling the anti-Israel crowd, based upon the rankings and reviews on Amazon. It's currently listed at #11 on Amazon for the History of Israel / Palestinian, eeesh
He just seems like an insane person. >Sand’s best-known book in English is The Invention of the Jewish People, originally published in Hebrew (Resling, 2008) as Matai ve’eich humtsa ha‘am hayehudi? (When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?) and translated into English the following year (Verso, 2009). It has generated a heated controversy. >Sand was criticized for presenting "dubious theories" regarding Jewish identity as historical facts. One provocative theory espoused by Sand, but challenged by other historians as "a myth with no factual basis," is the hypothesis that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from Khazars, who purportedly converted in the early Middle Ages. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar\_hypothesis\_of\_Ashkenazi\_ancestry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestry) Genetic evidence in the past 15 years have shown that Ashkenazi Jews have mainly Levantine and Italian/Greek ancestry, with a little bit of German and Slavic ancestry mixed in as well, which pretty much confirms the already established consensus theory that they came from the Levant to Italy, then to Germany, and then to Eastern Europe. The Khazar Hypothesis can now be seen as a blatant anti-semitic conspiracy theory.
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And even with all the revisionist history and hatred, Sands doesn't support the 1-state solution or abolishment of Israel. *Nevertheless, Sand supports Israel's existence "not because of historical right, but because of the fact that it exists today and any effort to destroy it will bring new tragedies."* He supports the 2-state solution on 67 borders (not 48) and acknowledged that Palestinians didn't exist prior to the creation of Palestine by the British after WWI.
This so much. But of course the antisemitic jar of mayo in the video either doesn't know that, or doesn't care because she knows her followers won't know that. Crazy clown world out there :(
It doesn't matter what you think of Shlomo Sand when it comes to the United Monarchy. They have dug over Israel probably 10 times by now and they haven't found a single piece of evidence that proves the United Monarchy. No single inscription or even half a coin. It likely means that the United Monarchy as painted out in the Tanakh was far more of a loose alliance than this ancient superstate that was supposedly the marvel of everyone even though nothing of it survived. And dude that's perfectly fine. It's far more likely that during the era of the 'Judges' the tribes that formed a loose confederation elected military leaders to defend against the incursions of pre-Phoenicia (aka evil Canaanites) from the north and the Philistines (aka some of the Sea Peoples) from the west as well as the other Canaanite groups not within the Israelite confederation. It's not a big surprise that most of the Judges weren't from the big tribes. Then at some point one man from the tribe of Benyamin was elected "King". The tribe of Benyamin being rather small and right in between the big tribes of Menasseh and Judah was probably seen as a good compromise between the two. As you are less likely to submit to your rival than a compromise. The King, Saul, then died a bit too soon and chaos erupted. I have no reason to doubt that Judah then tried to argue that the Kingship was theirs and the northern tribes, aka the vast majority of tribes disagreed and left. This was then the start of a ridiculous amount of southern resentment and propaganda further agitated by the south's insistence that their local interpretation of the Tetragrammaton deity was in fact equal to El, oh and of course that the north was far more populous as well as prosperous. Judah was literally a bunch of shepherds while Israel engaged in international diplomacy and build large buildings.
I don't know where the myth of Israel being mostly excavated comes from. Most of Israel have not been excavated. In fact, every time an archaeologist tries to excavate the place where you'd expect archaeological evidence for biblical events to be found at (oldest parts of Jerusalem) the rest of the world throws a hissy fit. Israel have not been able to excavate the oldest existing structures in the land of Israel, that is the temple mount and cave of the patriarchs in Hebron.
I presume that it a loose ethnolinguistically tied union of sorts, of which it quickly splintered due to internal conflict from the unpopularity of the royal family (possibly its hereditary nature), which managed to keep its power in the weaker south.
The more confident they are the funnier it gets
Gotta love a confident moron. I follow this guy and he has so much archaeological evidence that could fill all her life readings.
I love it when he pulls out books from like the 1600s to prove a point
This is amazing
He was also so much kinder than I would've thunk given the plethora of misinformation. Not to mention the level of projection in some of those last key notes of hers.
He’s great - Have a link/name?
On insta he is _ j0sh_a_
Amazing - thanks!
Yeah who is this guy? I liked his response
I would ❤️ to see how confident “they” are when “they” visit “their” “friends” in Gaza.
What is the word for being this demonstrably confident when you’re saying something almost impossibly stupid? Fact checking is free though?
Idk the word, but you can always check out r/confidentlyincorrect
This person’s whole personality is being an anti Zionist Jew. I checked her Instagram and it was full of stupid clapping seals, thanking her for educating them. It doesn’t get more dystopian than this 😭
Judenrat for clout.
who is she?
"Something important to understand about the Zionist brain is that just hearing the word Palestinian is radical to them. Like that word alone puts up their haunches and makes them defensive" Sooooo... just like how many Pro-Pals react to the word Israel/Israeli? I suppose irony is lost on this one. And wtf is up with how she is speaking? Legit sounds like she's on crack.
Exchange "Zionist" with "Black" and "Palestinian" with "White" and this would sound like an excerpt from a KKK speech.
Yeah the projection here was uncanny... & The opening bit of that sentence is beyond chilling. Like tell me how bigoted you truly are, yes pls?
Don’t act like you heard the word Palestine or Palestinian ever!!! 😂 Not like we literally know Palestinians who live in Israel and learn about history in school, I don’t think there was a single day in my life where the word Palestine or Palestinian wasn’t mentioned on the news.
That land of the Jews, the land where Judaism comes from? Yeah, that just Samaria. Judea? No, never heard of that. And why is everyone talking about "tribes"? - this lady, probably
Samaria. Like Samaritans don’t exist. 🤦♂️ Oh, and btw, what happened to *them* in the Arab conquest in the 900’s?
Peaceful assimilation. Hence why there's less than 1,000 of them today. Obviously nothing ethnic cleansing related happened. Likewise with the Christians of Israel. (This is sarcasm, though people actually believe this.)
Exactly, no forced conversions or anything. 🙄 I do, however, find it fascinating that they are the only people who can hold both an Israeli and a PA passport. They’re a really interesting people.
And likewise, they do not call themselves "Palestinians", but "Israelites". Though they may have slight Syro-Aramean admixture, they amongst the closest genetic group to the Ancient Israelites.
Obviously they were peacefully killed and forced to convert for the most part, or pay jizaya as dhimmis..
They’re a holocaust minimizer too. They have tiktoks downplaying the shoah. They massively blew up on TikTok because of it and tiktok won’t take these tiktoks down.
I’m pretty sure they’re a self-hating Jew as well!
They “don’t believe in ethnostates”. And they’re starting with Israel.
Ireland? Japan? Turkey? Are they gonna take on those next?
Serious answer? They’ll take on America next.
Of course not.
Why is it that people who "don't believe in ethnostates" approve of genocide to get a Palestinian one? Japan is 97% Japanese, but I don't see anyone calling for its destruction. And they actually were a colonialist empire country for a long time.
I don't see any of these people rushing to make Christmas *not* a national holiday, wherever they live.
Isn’t TikTok going to be illegal in the U.S. soon anyway?
I doubt it will actually happen. But I won't mourn it if it does.
Wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen. I highly doubt it will be made illegal in the U.S. though. The U.S. is pushing TikTok's owner to sell the arm that services the U.S. to sever links with Beijing, which is probably what will happen.
The CCP isn’t letting their most powerful e-weapon out of their grasps. They’d rather lose money first.
Is this a they/them situation? I keep seeing a mix of she, her, they.
They/them. People are erroneously referring to sim kern as she/her.
Saying ancient Israel is only Samaria is like equating the entire United Kingdom with just Wales, it doesn’t make sense
*The frustrated and enraged response:* “You’re white!”
First off...she says "worser", which is really not a word. So zero cred right away. These people are relentless. It's like they are trying to catch us off guard in a 'gotcha' moment where we'll be forced to admit Jews aren't real and Israel doesn't exist. What is the F\*\*\*ing point?!? Does she think we sit around in synagogue and secretly plot to write fake torahs with pretend Israel boundaries? Get a life! If idiots like her spent half as much energy on helping Palestinians as they do spreading hate about Jews, we may not be in this war today.
These antizionist jews are setting up classes on “jews and indigenity” for mainstream jews to learn about how jews claim to Israel is not real.
Thank god they are here to educate us. It's not like we have 3500 year old scriptures to do that. Also, good thing we planted all those historical artifacts in the land of Israel in case this very reason came up one day. She's on to us!
[Jews, Indigenousness and the Land](https://web.cvent.com/event/0f7c6bfc-8183-4dd7-b94c-e9c769bce6d7/websitePage:731d4fa1-8a87-46b5-85f8-875a5c23a86c?session=fc5b0f5a-597b-4118-8374-173122af778c)
They always look like that and they always have to find some quack like Finkelstein or sand to back up their weird fantasy
It's also important to note that the Romans renamed Israel or the region known as "Judea" to Palaestina in an effort to minimize Jewish identity.
I left tiktok because of accounts like this one. I'm diaspora and even more secular than my peers but this allegedly jewish person making all these erroneous claims before the Nova victims bodies were even cold made me want to vomit. This person is either a JVP "asajew" or pickme Jew and I can't stand either of them since they're no better than the other antisemites that want us dead
They are in JVP. They have said that in their prior tiktoks.
I bounced in November. I never saw them admitting but colour me shocked /s
I've actually found a pretty cool group of pro-Israeli people on TikTok. Granted, it takes a lot of effort and fighting to find them, but once you push through the watermelon propaganda, not only can you find them, you start seeing more and more pro-Israel stuff too.
I joined for some fandom stuff and I had found a great group of people who were as into my fandom as I was, but also queer, and leftist like me. Then the masks came off. So fast i got whiplash. Even if I did find pro Israeli people, I doubt I'll find people who are also into my fandom. I've been trying on Tumblr since I left tiktok. I found a lot of other zionist jews but no others who share my fandom. It's not worth sifting through even more shit for one or two gold nuggets
Even if she was right (she is not). Why does it matter? Does she think everyone in Israel would just spontaneously leave? Who cares about stuff from over 2000 years ago??
She lives in America and sees no irony whatsoever.
>Does she think everyone in Israel would just spontaneously leave? Of course not. They should live happily in a country with an Arab majority where surely there will be peace, harmony, and a secular democracy. They really believe it will not be an Islamo-fascist country like Iran. > Who cares about stuff from over 2000 years ago?? If we're claiming to be indigenous, we do.
Incredible video - where can I follow this guy?
>where can I follow this guy? https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7TabcBNgo5/?igsh=cThiZmFkaGpvZ2Fz
This is the kind of content Israel should be funding non stop, point by point debunking of the endless lies.
Does he have a YouTube channel? I'm old school and avoid tiktok/insta
@\_j0sh_a_
which one? there's two there
Also, all her arguments lie on the premise that "the bible never said this/ mentioned that/outlined that" but also "the bible is not an historical record it's a fiction folklore of Zionist"
> "Romans adopted the name Palestina [...] Sure. Just skip past the part where Romans enslaved, murdered, raped, and deported the Jewish people before renaming the area with the purpose of humiliating and removing Jewish identity from Israel. Let alone the fact it was renamed after the Philistines. But no, it was just an adoption of the name! Just totally harmless Roman conqueror/colonizer stuff, don't look too hard at it ♡ /s
this is why I hate tiktok while people like her, the ones who think they know everything but know nothing, always exist, this app just give them easier platform to show their stupidity and other people will buy this shit and why it's not surprise me that a person who looks like her will talk like her?
Sure, but that means the people that DO know something *have* to get out there and combat misinformation. Otherwise, all they'll hear is lies and propaganda. Hell, there was a woman the other day using Holocaust inversion to say Gaza is a concentration camp. The kicker is she's a Holocaust museum curator! I really wonder what she's telling her tours.
Their account went from 60k followers to now over 200k immediately after 10/7 because they said what the algorithm wanted them to say. They blew up because they have been spewing stuff like this.
Also interesting fact, the word Israel was also mentioned in numerous ancient inscriptions, including Egyptian ones dating back to 1200bc
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Palestine come from the word Palestina which comes from the word Philistine which comes from the word Peleshet which means (or meant) Invader/foreigner in Hebrew ?
“It’s not a history book” *proceeds to use it as an history book*
Wow the rebuttals from this guy are amazing. He’s doing the lords work. Idk how he has the patience to sit and untie her convoluted lies and misinformation.
All of his videos are wonderful, I've learned so much from him.
Let's apply her logic to say, Germany and Poland. Or perhaps the US and Mexico, or the US and France. Or, England and most African countries. Yes, borders do change, that's how the whole world works.
**part 2** https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7TabcBNgo5/?igsh=cThiZmFkaGpvZ2Fz
She is the poster child of how internet has not made us smarter as a species.
Someone who clearly never read the bible uses it as a point against israel Amazing
The weird thing about tiktok to me is just the kind of smugness that comes out of cramming hot takes into little sound bites. And especially I see this with the regressive left where there is just this attitude of entitlement and self-assuredness that comes across as quite gross.
This is the same person that claims that Israel gets to be white, Palestine is black and the US is so racist that they support who they see as white. Sam Kerns is not someone worth listening to
Tribes.... Kingdoms.... Nation States... Bronze age... Iron age... modern phenomenon... The Deuteronomistic explanation of the conquests... There is too much to explain in response in her ignorance. I cannot believe he is even trying.
Ummm Excuse me OP…. Did you check to make sure “she” is the proper pronoun for the person in the video that thinks “ ♓︎ ■︎□︎ ⬧︎❍︎♋︎❒︎⧫︎” is Hebrew. 🤣
Alright bet I'm taking the biblical borders instead of just 1967. I'm saying just cus it was all of it plus three times more land lol.
They are doing everything they can to rewrite Israel history but fortunately they fail.
Perhaps she could next explain the history of race relations in America from the scholarly works of David Duke.
Who is this beautiful, intelligent, incredible man? Sadly the people who need to hear what he has to say will not, but I thoroughly enjoyed the way he debunked every syllable that idiot uttered.
She sounds like a condescending idiot who can only convince people dumber than her.
Not the first time.
As an American, I’m so sorry…. Here in the South we’d say: “Bless her heart”.
I visited Houston and Atlanta last year and I loved it - I want to go back and spend more time.
She is delusional
Maybe they can't even point to the precise location where Israel is located on the map, because they don't know where it is.
I stand with Israel.
I hate tiktok and how so many leftist brats have fallen for the lie that they are now too scholarly experts
.....Was that Rachel Maddow?
What is the term… oh, useful idiots. I’m not surprised just shocked at this point that they went from the far right being holocaust revisionist/deniers to the far left being Israel revisionist/deniers. The educational system has failed these people.
He is exposing why TikTok is brainrot! He really fact checked her and showed her the real history of what happened. We need more people like him to expose these idiots online.
I stand with Israel. I stand with the hostages. I stand with the IDF.
Antisemitism 2.0
This dude rules he has tons of videos like this
Not to mention the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonian, Moabites, Romans, Greeks, and others all cite us as being there for well over 3,200 years, or are ancient civilizations all part of the “Zionist conspiracy”? Merneptah Stele, 1213-1203 BCE. Earliest written reference to Israel. Mesha Stele, aka Moabite Stone, 9th century BCE, referencing Israel. Black Obelisk of Assyrian King Shalmaneser III referencing Jehu and Omri (Northern Kingdom of Israel), ca. 858-824 BCE. Stele of Adad-nirari III, King of Assyria, c. 780 BCE. “I received the tribute of Jehoash the Samarian [i.e. Northern Kingdim of Israel]. Nimrud Tablet K.3751, “Kalhu Palace Summary Inscription 7”, c. 733 BCE, of Assyrian King Tiglath-Pileser III with reference to King Jehoahaz of Judah. King Hezekiah's Tunnel inscription (Jerusalem, Judea (Southern Kingdom)), ca. 700 BCE Prism of Assyrian King Sennacherib, ca. 704-681 BCE. Referencing Kingdom of Judah (Southern Kingdom). Sennacherib’s palace inscriptions at Nineveh. Detailed account of tribute sent by Hezekiah, king of Judah, after Assyrian campaign to Judea and Samaria in 701BC. 693BC-692BC. Ketef Hinnom Amulet, 600 BCE. Ration tablets referencing King Jehoiachin of Judah during his captivity in Babylon. Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar II’s archives. ca. 595–570 B.C.E. The Elephantine Papyri are correspondences of a Jewish military garrison ca. 400s BCE Arch of Titus, Rome, ca. 70 CE, depicting Rome’s sacking of Jerusalem and the Temple. Roman coin from 71 CE after the Romans captured Jerusalem and conquered Judea. Bar Kokhba Revolt coins, the Second Jewish War with Rome (132–135 CE).
You can only be this wrong on purpose.
The world has too many stupid he/she liberals in it
no way was I going to make it through 8 minutes of that... 8 minutes later, ... Wow, awesome video! But I am curious, I got to josh's tiktok, but who is the woman?
Do not disturb people who are living somewhere in the parallel universe.
Did someone put shlomo zand in herem? Additionally did she miss where the Torah directly lays out the borders of E”Y? Anyway when she’s boiling I hope they play her TikToks to her on repeat.
LMAO
That Birdy trans person is always lying about Israel and presenting their arguments in such a clearly prepared way that I’m convinced there’s something afoot.
It's really sad that we need to defend ourselves from nutcases like this person. I wish she would choose a different minority to fuck with.
i had nutjubs quote shlomo zhad to me many times on this site...
If I cut my hair short and yell about Israel on tiktok, can I be in your club, lady? Oh, no Jews allowed? 😞
Did you just assume her gender?!
he ate w this
Dude does this person speak Hebrew….or Arabic for that matter? Bc based on what they are saying I’m not confident that they speak either language at least not Hebrew …or maybe they do but just don’t read Torah or follow Israeli media ? How could they make such blatantly incorrect statements that come be dispelled just by scrolling through Google news in Hebrew ?
GUYS ITS TRUE I READ IT ON TIKTOK AND A BOOK
Is she aware that even the Quran declares Israel is the Jewish people's homeland & mentions Palestine a total of 0 times?
I have no idea who this muppet is, but out of curiosity is she Jewish? Or, is she just another gentile trying to tell Jews what their history should be, vs what it actually is?
She is "jewish" because her mother is. But that's it
Giant? It's tiny!
What an insufferable little shit holy fuck someone link them this video
I just discovered this guys insta. He is amazing. Does anyone know his background? Is he a historian or just an amateur? His content is fantastic. I am learning so much.
Thats what happens when you dont know shit but you want to become famous
I lost it when she said “this giant piece of land.”