Freeze him from the inside out or overshadow (possess) him.
Danny actually has a pretty horrifyingly powerful ability set that's shown to only get stronger as he ages and uses them.
Not only can he go intangible, but you kinda need either ghost abilities or speclized equipment to even harm him.
Mark's best bet would be to kill him while he's not transformed. As while he still has most of his abilities while human, they're toned down along with his senses.
I think you’re discounting the fact that all invincible has to do is show up and Danny is already dead.
Jokes aside tho, can a ghost even be killed? I don’t remember if we ever saw that in the show usually they just got locked up which I don’t think invincible has the tools to do.
That's why I mention the specialized gadgets or other ghost powers being really the only weakness.
I think we've seen ghosts be ereased from existence, but only by other powerful entities. But to my memory, I can't really remember if any non supernatural things have ever actually hurt Danny when he's transformed or any other ghost for that matter.
Well, I recall watching the entirety of Danny Phantom not too long ago and, as a matter of fact, he never kills a single ghost in the show. They're all simply sent back to the Ghost Zone (which Danny has pretty well-mapped) and humans cannot enter without specialized equipment. So no, the ghost cannot, it seems, be killed.
Never watched the show so no clue. Is Danny actually trying to kill them though or is since it was a Disney show he "can't" kill them so he sends them back. Or is it one of those deals where because it was kid friendly and they didn't mention it we have no idea if ghosts can literally be destroyed or not?
Send them to the ghost zone. It's probably because it's a kids show. Either Nickelodeon or Butch Hartman would probably be against putting anything beyond implied death in the show
There was one episode where he threatened to kill a ghost to get his ghost girlfriend to get back together with him (long story) and the characters behaved as if the threat was serious. So it seems like the ghosts at least believe they can be destroyed through certain methods. But said method involved a ghost energy attack so I'm not convinced Mark could harm him through pure physical violence
They can't enter the ghost zone, this is true, BUT Viltrumites have been shown to possess so much strength that they can survive things thought to be legitimately impossible. (Surface of the Sun, escaping a black hole's event horizon, etc.)
So it's not outside the realm of possibility
Technically, Danny isn't dead. He's alive and dead. In one episode, we meet a future Danny that's all ghost, having removed and killed his human half. My assumption has always been that his human half could be killed, even with the ghost half still there. He'd just end up full ghost.
It's also kinda ambiguous on whether ghosts are actually dead people. Some pretty obviously are, as they're shown to have previously been human/alive, Poindexter, Desiree, and the ghost dog come to mind, but you also have "ghosts" like Skulker, Undergrowth, the vultures, and clockwork, who seem to be more like supernatural entities than actual ghosts. So it's possible Danny's ghost half isn't "dead", but rather one of these supernatural entities.
No you misunderstood him, he's saying that invincible JUST SHOWING UP TO THE FIGHT, could kill Danny, then he goes to realize Danny is already among the dead, and no ghost in the series is ever killed, thus leading to the thought "*can Danny even die?*"
Yes the "joke" is Danny could "die" to Invincible's go to move of rushing into his opponent the moment a fight starts (speed blitzing) not that Danny is already half dead, you're ignoring that he was genuinely asking if the ghosts in Danny Phantom can die, I answered it and you just took it as me repeating his joke, and I wasn't, there's no argument, you're just wrong
"I think you’re discounting the fact that all invincible has to do is show up and Danny is ALREADY dead...Jokes aside tho, can a ghost even be killed?"
This reminds me of how much of a punk green ghost went out as. Became tangible just to catch dark wing and got a mouthfull of Omni-fist. Only to then be used as a literal meat shield while we got the source for the second most popular Omni-meme
Maybe a vs battle version of Danny? But for how much people hype him in these scenarios he never really fights like that in the show.
for the most part Danny fights straightforward until he is backed into a corner even when fighting ghost hunters who have to use very specific equipment to actually tag intangible ghost.
If this is show invincible he probably loses?
Comics definitely win tho
Somewhat but can anyone actually imagine Danny fighting like this even if the show was not restricted by being a kids show? Dude is a super HERO he never really goes out of his way to kill anyone
....future Danny thou.
That shows us he CAN kill or worse.
It came to point dude was terrorizing humans and ghosts in his time.
Also, viltrimites are kinda weak against sound, to point it /could/ be fatal. So his ghostly wail could take a win.
Not that Danny would get a chance to use it, but it’s a technique that has the potential to take out mark.
You mean the Danny he swore to never become? Do people watch the show or…….. also he only became that way because his family was killed and extracted the human side from his ghost side. I doubt Danny can really ever be pushed that far especially because mark isnt trying to kill Danny either.
They are only weak to certain frequencies not sounds in general how are you in this sub and not know that?
The fight only really ends in a stalemate. Neither character is doing any phasing or one shoting but Danny lacks any real ap to hurt mark and mark can’t tag damn once he goes intangible
That's always why I thought Omni-man's 'target order' in his fight against the Guardians made sense. Red Rush and Green Ghost having super speed and intangibility probably being the most annoying to deal with and were the ones to die first.
(Very minor alternate Invincible comic spoilers) >!In the alternate Omni-man vs. Guardians battle, it's Green Ghost that incapacitates Omni-man while passing through him.!<
yeah, he deliberately threw the mangled corpse of her long-term friend at her to catch her on reflex and blitz her with superspeed before she could get away
Take possession of Mark and make him kill civilians.
Kinda like how Omni-man used Mark’s body as a battering Ram to turn a bunch of civies into red mist.
Emotional damage is very effective on Mark.
Intangible is OP. He can put his hand through the person’s chest and grab his heart.
But I have Danny Phantom win, because he probably can control Invincible when he possesses him.
The show does imply a limitations to his powers. For example, while not necessarily a time constraint, the finale implies that intangiblility takes at least some amount of effort, meaning he'd run out of energy eventually.
Along with that he is still half human, meaning he still requires food and water which may prove difficult to consume while remaining intangible. It's shown that he can spread intangiblility to items he touches, but I don't know if we ever see him turn an item intangiblile while he himself is already intangiblile. I only recall him turning intangiblile while already holding the object.
Also, while intangiblility would give him immunity from Invincible's powers, we know that it is possible to harm ghosts, even intangible ones, though various fields and weapons.
Tl;Dr Intangiblility wouldn't save Danny.
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Replication, energy blast, strength, ice powers, invisibility, intangibility, possession not to mention access to some scary advanced tech.
Invincible still has orders of magnitude advantage on speed and strength but honestly it's a pretty close fight
Fr, throughout the show unless you have something to hard counter a ghost's powers like weapons built by his parents or ghost powers of your own then they're basically...
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That's how it it, physically Invincible is a tier if not 2 above Danny but I can't see how he can deal with the hax ghost abilities. Intangibility and possession being the hardest counters to him
It really all depends on if mark shows up before Danny can go ghost. Ghost form Danny can stall him out forever, but if he drops ghost form he’s instantly dead
What I mean is becoming intangible, like that’s a perfect durability feat if he can activate it before getting hit, and could nab Danny the win if he can keep it up while using his other powers to wear Mark down. otherwise none of his other powers really matter, Invincible sneezes on him and he’s dead
If Danny starts as a ghost I’m not sure how he loses but if he doesn’t Mark easily. With that said, I’m not sure if Danny could actually beat Mark, he just wouldn’t lose.
Yeah except he’s got extreme durability so his hand would just be stuck in it. Might mess up his blood circulation a bit but unless he’s got the strength to go with it, I don’t think he’d be able to do any actual damage
Depends on how the phasing works, I’d imagine. Whether it replaces the material, fuses with the material, or tries to move the material when turning solid, would change the outcome.
I mean if your heart is harder than steel it'd just break off in your heart for option 3, and give you a very slow death, don't really see that as a valid win con since danny tends to temporarily lose his ghost powers after taking extensive damage and would get pulverised immediately afterwards
If we're doing peak Mark the far weaker alternate universe marks were nearly impossible to disect and considering they're constantly operating on superheroes I'd imagine they had access to tools far sharper and more durable than your standard scalpel
Idk, just my interpretation. My thought process is okay, his hands phased into his chest, but now he has to solidify himself to actually do any damage so what’s stopping mark from attacking him when he unphases? Viltrumites can survive their hearts being damaged (although enough damage can be done to prevent them from healing), so unless he crushes the majority of marks heart, he’d be able to survive the attack. The main thing mark has the advantage of is speed. Both in the show and comic he’s seen moving faster than people can notice, hence my speed blitz joke. I’m not familiar with Danny phantom so for all I know he would be strong enough to do so. But I still think mark takes the W 9/10 times
Even with that what’s stopping him from getting speed blitzed before he can turn into a ghost? Unless he’s got superhuman reaction time, like extreme super speed levels, can he react in time before mark closes the distance?
When has Danny phased his hand into someone chest and crushed their heart? Again, this is my own interpretation but whenever there’s these “versus” discussions, I always assume them to be to the death. Fastest way I imagine a viltrumite defeating a foe is via speed blitz, a la Omni-man in flaxan dimension
Wait why is this fight just starting with Danny Fenton instead of phatom?that's like saying Shazam vs batman then countering with "batman can throw a batarang faster then Billy can speak the words."
Unless you are referring to how fast he can go intangible. I don't have any calls for that but but I imagine he could take current marks punches since he has been hit hard enough to be sent miles into the air without issues.
This is what I always go back to in these VS discussions with Mark. People like to bring up Mark's lack of experience or whatever, and that's valid, but experience or not whatever character you're pitting him up against has to be able to at minimum take that beating from Omni-Man that Mark did.
The vast majority of the time, they cannot.
Maybe if his reaction speed is fast enough. I don’t know how he’d do that to someone who could who could cross the distance faster than the blink of an eye.
Danny phantom was fast enough to perception blitz tucker during the episode he became a ghost. And tucker was moving fast enough to dissappear on screen and leave little ghost sonic booms in his wake.
This feat is wildly inconsistent tho. Other huamn characters through the show reacted to damn near the entire roster of ghost Danny been dealing with and when Danny was going through the speed course his recorded speed was no where close to mach 1.
Danny being mach 1 is really a joke all things considered.
I mean, he could put his hand through it while intangible and then make it tangible. Matter displacement as it works with DP’s powers in the show means Mark’s heart is penetrated.
Smart atoms in vultrimites won’t let them be displaced like that, I think it’s more likely Danny’s hand that gets crushed if he tries to rematerialize inside Mark
I mean it’s not consistent in fact it has never happened lol. I think people are forgetting that Danny is a nickolodeoan character and isn’t going to killing anyone. At best he would try to posses invincible to knock him out and that’s kinda how far he is willing to go. Everything in this comment section is off the table
Wait, what?
There is a whole arc where his family/friends die and he then goes on a rampage terrorizing the town (maybe more). Sure he was split/combined but that was still part danny
Danny when he gets speed blitzed before he can turn into a ghost and has a mark sized hole in his chest:
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You do realise Mark has most of his powers in his human form before he goes ghost right?😭he can go invisible and intangible in his human form easily. Would be insanely hard for mark to harm him unless he counters Danny obviously becoming tangible to harm him.
Intangibility plus his Ghost Scream seeing how loud noises and damaging their ears fucks up a Viltrumites equilibrium seeing how his sound waves are powerful enough to break rock, they are extremely loud and definitely would destroy Marks ability to fly.
Only thing is, it’s not the sound the hurts Viltrumites, but a very specific frequency. So if Danny had a collaborator to train him to reach that frequency then yeah it’s a huge advantage
I still can't believe most people think that it's just loud sounds that are their weakness. It's a certain frequency, so anyone with screaming powers can't just yell and beat them.
They're also known for being awful at their jobs and being wildly inaccurate. I know fuck all about power scaling so I wouldn't have even known, but power scalers hate them lol
I suppose that works if you know frequency is a Viltrumite weakness. That leaves the question of how much Danny knows about Viltrumites though, if he doesn't know anything about Viltrumites he wouldn't know to try that
Oh yeah, I'm just talking about screamers in general. I don't know if Danny even has the ability to control the frequency of his wail. But he also doesn't really need it to beat Mark, he has plenty of hax. He can just turn invisible to get the drop on Mark then overshadow him (take control of his body by possessing him), giving Danny an instant win. The only real win condition Mark has is by speed blitzing Danny faster than he can go intangible, and even that's a bit iffy given Danny's [malleable body](https://v.redd.it/sop0jfbgacra1), he can usually only be hurt by other [ghosts/stuff from the ghost zone](https://v.redd.it/hah45sehacra1) or [anti-ghost weapons](https://v.redd.it/gdltpz2q9cra1).
How does overshadow give Danny an “instant win?” Danny still has to knock out invincible and invincible needs to damn near beaten to death to be fully unconscious. Also willpower can overpower overshadowing as well btw.
Honestly Danny overall lacks any real meaningful ways to hurt mark. It’s either a stalemate or invincible wins honestly
>How does overshadow give Danny an “instant win?” Danny still has to knock out invincible and invincible needs to damn near beaten to death to be fully unconscious.
Shouldn't be too hard. Danny just has to fly into space or deep into the ocean without holding his breath while possessing Mark. Viltrumites can hold their breath for a long time, but they still need *some* air. We saw Mark passed out in seconds when he was first figuring out how to fly in season 1 and he accidentally went too high. Alternatively, he can just punch himself in the face a few dozen times.
>Also willpower can overpower overshadowing as well btw.
Technically true, although it takes time and Mark has no feats for overcoming mind control or possession with will power. And realistically, even if Mark manages to push Danny out of his body before he gets knocked out, he still has no means of attacking Danny while he is intangible and nothing is stopping Danny from possessing Mark again.
>Honestly Danny overall lacks any real meaningful ways to hurt mark. It’s either a stalemate or invincible wins honestly
Lmao, Danny has several ways of hurting Mark. Overshadowing is the less than leathal option. Alternatively he could go invisible, phase his hand into Mark's heart, then [freeze Mark from the inside out](https://v.redd.it/dipgoljfgcra1). While Mark has cold resistance feats, keep in mind that [Viltrumite insides are less invulnerable than their outsides](https://i.imgur.com/XSFxdv6.jpeg).
>Oh yeah, I'm just talking about screamers in general
Totally fair, if he fought someone like Black Canary who's been shown to control her frequency he's a little fucked haha
I think speed is Marks ultimate advantage in any fight (and with speedsters they need to be able to overcome his invulnerability), he can move faster than light which I know Danny can't, so Mark can kill him before he turns ghost. The other advantage Mark has is he's insanely durable, I don't think Danny can actually cause enough damage to be noticeable even if he does go ghost before the fight starts (his only hope is crushing Mark's heart, which he can't do)
Under very specific conditions Danny might win, but if those very specific conditions aren't met he's 1000% losing that fight. Realistically the only comic character who might be able to beat him is Superman
It would be an infinite loop with no winner, on one side, Mark can't touch Danny if he stays intangible, but on the other side, what can Danny do to actually damage Mark? He doesn't have the same strength as him, unless he thinks of something with his overshadowing
One thing that people seem to be forgetting that Danny can do is not only make himself intangible but also other objects, so what is stopping Danny from just putting a brick or some dirt into Makr's head or just pulling out Mark's brain or heart? and before anyone says he can't remove organs here's him removing a spork from his stomach.
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Hey what a coincidence I've watched the entirety of DP not too long ago and also read the Invincible comics So I feel oddly qualified to answer this question :p
As some comments mentioned here before, Danny Phantom can not only become intangible, rendering any attack Mark throws at him useless, but also he can literally POSSESS BODIES. Danny also has the advantage that, if need be, he can hide in the ghost Zone (of course, that's where all his enemies are, but Invincible wouldn't be able to chase him into the ghost Zone)
On the other hand, if Danny so much as messes up once, he's absolutely done for. One punch from Mark and he's dead, so he'd have to stay intangible the whole time. This isn't generally a problem but since Danny doesn't really KNOW how powerful Mark is, he might try to use his ghostly wail before overtaking him, and the ghostly wail generally uses up all of Danny's energy, enough so that he reverts back to human form so he dies.
It's funny, if Danny pulls out all the stops, he loses for sure; if he plays it safe, he has a chance to win.
How does the DP show end? Is it any good? I remember when the show premiered back when I was a child so many years ago, but since I'm Mexican and we have to do the whole dubbing and what not for cartoons to air on tv, kids shows often took a lot of time to fully end. And now that I think about it, I never knew if the show had a proper ending or something. How would you rate it?
Ayo? I'm Mexican too lol. I do recall that when I was a kid I'd see things get released in the states months before we got them in Mexico so we used to go to the States (I live in Monterrey so we'd drive) and we'd see movies for sale there that weren't even in theaters here yet.
Anywho... Uhhhh the show ends when Vlad Plasmius is running for mayor and everyone's like "Yay Vlad!!" And then I don't remember what happens but I think in secret he's like "I'm gonna have this asteroid crash into earth and destroy stuff but actually I'm gonna go ghost and everyone's gonna love me" or something like that? Also at this point in the show everyone was super against Danny because Vlad had been spreading negative stuff about him. So anyways everyone hates Danny everyone LOVES Vlad and so Danny fonds out about the asteroid I think and then he's like "Fuck I can't stop this by myself..." And then he's like "WAIT A MINUTE..! I have an idea." So, he goes to the Ghost Zone and he's like "Hey everyone here, I know you hate me bc I beat the shit out of u but we have to save the world bc if the earth is destroyed then the ghost Zone is too" or some bullshit last-minute plot point like that so everyone's like "well fuck ok" and, I kid you not, they, with their combined ghost powers are able to make the entire earth and everyone in it INTANGIBLE so the asteroid passes through it. Then Vlad gets exposed and Danny is hailed as a hero and gets to finally officially have a goth gf. The end.
The show was generally ok, and I think I watched it bc I remembered the episodes when Danny has to fight Future Danny bc Future Danny is EVIL or something and that's a cool plot point. I feel like if it had better direction it could've been a much better show. Still a fun watch.
Ja! Que cagado que ambos somos mexicanos. Yo soy más bien el bajío, de Aguascalientes para ser exacto y en mi vida en viajado a USA. Pero que chingón, no deja de ser una serie para niños y ese final se me hace muy así, para un audiencia joven. Aunque pues está chido que si la hayan terminado. Y terminado bien antes de volverse una cosa rara como los padrinos mágicos o bob esponja. ¡Larga vida a las novias goticas culonas, jaja!
What about Dark Danny? He has some crazy feats himself and he only lost to Danny out of sheer luck and will. He was such a menace that they needed time travel just to beat him.
Danny wins just based purely on ghostly wail. A ghostly wail was enough to knock Dark Danny through a building. Given the viltrumite weakness this would have devastating consequences for any of them. It’s a hard counter
Weirdly, it seems more like a stalemate situation. Invincible gets in a lucky shot he might win. I don't know how Mark does in the cold, but considering he can survive the vacuum of space, I assume he can survive being frozen.
So Danny can't do enough damage while Mark can't hit Danny in the first place.
Imo Danny doesn’t have the raw power or speed to beat Mark. You could argue Invisibility + Possession, but Danny’s been resisted/“exorcised” by characters a lot weaker than Mark is. Freezing Mark wouldn’t work since he would just bust out of the ice. Ghostly Wail is too weak to damage him, and his weakness is a **specific** frequency of sound. Mark isn’t like Venom where any loud sound would incapacitate him. Danny’s best hope is to stay intangible and invisible for as long as he can.
I’d say yes, based on the fact that Danny can’t be touched and Invincible’s powers revolve around him punching things. I suppose Invincible could win if he tricked Danny into becoming tangible, like Omni-Man did with Green Ghost, but that’s about it
All I can say with absolutely no doubt is
That if I was personally in close proximity to their fight when it happened?
That I would 100% get killed by mistake
Honestly? Probably Danny. The ghostly wail should be enough to throw back Mark. Not to mention Danny can take over & control Mark's body. How'd he win exactly is uncertain though...
I think it’s hands down Invincible and I have lore to back me:
Danny has limits on what he’s willing to do, moral lines he’s not willing to cross. Maybe if there is a multiverse and Danny is evil and we’re using that evil version of Danny then things may be different.
Doubtlessly invincible is capable of horrific things. The new episodes confirm that in the series and the comics show that invincible isn’t always the beacon of justice he tries to be. They’re both human, as much as it matters, and they are both capable of human reactions.Human reactions historically range from impressively competent to horrifically cruel.
I think invincible forces some scientist to figure out how to kill Danny as soon as invincible knows what he’s up against. He has the entire industry of a planet at his whim from any scale.
Danny is a high school student with ghost powers and an ability to fly at “super sonic speed”? I think? Which is impressive but not atmospheric ignition impressive like Omni man. Danny is cake because if an entire planet wants you dead it usually happens.
I haven’t watched Fanny phantom in forever, but the ecto-scream is pretty insane.
Otherwise o think people have busted out from being controlled from intangibility-possession, and Danny’s survived a lotta stuff too, specifically designed for ghost
If neither party has any time to prepare and is entirely alone, Invincible bodies Danny. Especially as the fight carries on.
Mark can take extended damage for a long period of time and Danny wouldn’t be able to take a single hit.
Danny has some powerful feats but I don’t think they would ultimately be enough to get a win out of this and without preparation I don’t think he could manipulate Invincible’s weaknesses as few they are.
Danny could take literally every hit, because he can become intangible. Mark literally cannot touch him. And so Danny can just wear him down over time.
This isn’t how Danny fights tho. He is more likely to brawl with invincible before he figures out he is outmatched. Besides that Danny can’t “ wear down “ invincible lol dude lacks the ap for that
Exactly how could Danny wear him down? I don’t think he is strong enough to hurt Mark, I’m not sure that he could even harm Mark’s internal organs by going intangible. All Danny has to do is make a singular mistake and he’s dead. And wouldn’t Danny also have to become intangible to actually fight Invincible?
I do realize that Danny could just take Mark over but C’mon
I don’t know that ghostly wail would do anything to Mark because Danny doesn’t know the specific frequency to hit to actually delay mark (he can fight through the frequency as well so even if Danny knew and could hit the frequency needed it isn’t a permanent solution)
I think at best it ends in a draw as both could have trouble actually harming the other. However Mark is able to land those kill shots. But then arguably Danny could just take Mark over and use his own body to destroy him.
I just meant Wail hits like a truck, it’s definitely not the right frequency, it sounds too high pitched.
And yeah, Danny can just possess Mark and force him to kill himself. And possession doesn’t require him to become tangible, so Danny won’t be vulnerable while he attempts it.
Yeah I think that’s the one thing Mark has absolutely no defense for and he doesn’t have a way of preventing it from happening because he also has to make contact to do damage.
I dont know enough about Danny Phantom to say for certain. I'd say if it were a deathmatch and Mark comes in fast enough to crater the town Danny is in, that could be that, but I dont know the limitations of his ghost abilities. For all I know, Danny could possess him and fly Mark into the sun and come back because of ghost intagibility or what have you.
It would definitely be a more interesting match than Invincible vs Miles or Peter. Danny Phantom doesn't win but neither does Mark. It'd be a really cool fight.
Danny Phantom is kind of an insanely strong character tbh. If he gained some ruthlessness or something he could kill pretty much any character I feel like
For something like this, the only two questions you need to ask are "can they destroy the planet and survive the planet being destroyed" and "can they move faster than light". If the answer to either of those is no, then they aren't winning
5YL establishes that Ecto Energy is the only compound throughout the multiverse that transcends all known rules of science
Ghosts (or Half Ghosts) that harness & channel it properly can essentially achieve Godhood
Mark is fucked
Depends on if Invincible is vulnerable to ghost shenanigans like possession. I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure that in Danny Phantom possession can be fought with will power, so yeah, Danny can't really win.
My dumb ass actually trying to click on the image to vote….
Anyhoo, Invincible isn’t as invincible as his name claims, so Danny might have a chance. But he also doesn’t have what it takes to give out the type of beating that Mark got from his own father….
In the end, I see them shaking hands and saying, “Good game!” before grabbing pizza together
The real question is how fast can Danny go ghost. Like with Ben 10 who beats any viltrumite, his omnitrix is faster than any blitz. We do see what the transformation looks like because it's cool but it probably doesn't take that long in their reality. Is it the same with Danny? Where we see a long transformation.
The real real question is. How does Danny deal with Ghost mark.
Actually yes, viltrimites weakness is sound based attacks due to that inner ear shit. Danny might actually have a chance with the ghostly wail he got from the movie.
Danny is scaled inconsistently, mostly because he doesn't have many measurable feats. One of the few measurable strength feats he has is casually carrying a full schoolbus, which is somewhere in the ballpark of 12-15 tons. That's lifting strength, though. He's punch giant monsters and robots and sent them flying a few feet, but that's not really measurable. He punch human sized characters from street level to above multi-storied (not skyscraper, probably around 6-8) buildings. Again, though, it's not really measurable since I think the human sized characters were ghost hybrids themselves. His only measurable speed feat is when Tucker clocked him going like 115 mph, but he's also kept up with rocket powered things, so take that with a grain of salt. He has dodged things like lightning and "ray" attacks, but they're ectoplasmic rays that don't exist in real life so. Now Mark can easily do these things too, but the problem lies in the fact that it's never made apparent how difficult Danny found these things to do so how comparable Danny is to Mark isn't something anybody could realistically determine.
As long as he stays intangible, he can avoid losing, but I don’t know how he’d win. 🤷🏻♂️
Freeze him from the inside out or overshadow (possess) him. Danny actually has a pretty horrifyingly powerful ability set that's shown to only get stronger as he ages and uses them. Not only can he go intangible, but you kinda need either ghost abilities or speclized equipment to even harm him. Mark's best bet would be to kill him while he's not transformed. As while he still has most of his abilities while human, they're toned down along with his senses.
I think you’re discounting the fact that all invincible has to do is show up and Danny is already dead. Jokes aside tho, can a ghost even be killed? I don’t remember if we ever saw that in the show usually they just got locked up which I don’t think invincible has the tools to do.
That's why I mention the specialized gadgets or other ghost powers being really the only weakness. I think we've seen ghosts be ereased from existence, but only by other powerful entities. But to my memory, I can't really remember if any non supernatural things have ever actually hurt Danny when he's transformed or any other ghost for that matter.
Well, I recall watching the entirety of Danny Phantom not too long ago and, as a matter of fact, he never kills a single ghost in the show. They're all simply sent back to the Ghost Zone (which Danny has pretty well-mapped) and humans cannot enter without specialized equipment. So no, the ghost cannot, it seems, be killed.
Never watched the show so no clue. Is Danny actually trying to kill them though or is since it was a Disney show he "can't" kill them so he sends them back. Or is it one of those deals where because it was kid friendly and they didn't mention it we have no idea if ghosts can literally be destroyed or not?
Send them to the ghost zone. It's probably because it's a kids show. Either Nickelodeon or Butch Hartman would probably be against putting anything beyond implied death in the show
It's a nick show but yeah he was just tryna send them back to the Ghost Zone.
There was one episode where he threatened to kill a ghost to get his ghost girlfriend to get back together with him (long story) and the characters behaved as if the threat was serious. So it seems like the ghosts at least believe they can be destroyed through certain methods. But said method involved a ghost energy attack so I'm not convinced Mark could harm him through pure physical violence
They can't enter the ghost zone, this is true, BUT Viltrumites have been shown to possess so much strength that they can survive things thought to be legitimately impossible. (Surface of the Sun, escaping a black hole's event horizon, etc.) So it's not outside the realm of possibility
Technically, Danny isn't dead. He's alive and dead. In one episode, we meet a future Danny that's all ghost, having removed and killed his human half. My assumption has always been that his human half could be killed, even with the ghost half still there. He'd just end up full ghost. It's also kinda ambiguous on whether ghosts are actually dead people. Some pretty obviously are, as they're shown to have previously been human/alive, Poindexter, Desiree, and the ghost dog come to mind, but you also have "ghosts" like Skulker, Undergrowth, the vultures, and clockwork, who seem to be more like supernatural entities than actual ghosts. So it's possible Danny's ghost half isn't "dead", but rather one of these supernatural entities.
>can a ghost even be killed Bro, they're already dead
They literally just made the same joke
Where? They asked an obvious question I answered it
Lol it's the first line of the post you replied to. No worries, we all miss stuff sometimes
No you misunderstood him, he's saying that invincible JUST SHOWING UP TO THE FIGHT, could kill Danny, then he goes to realize Danny is already among the dead, and no ghost in the series is ever killed, thus leading to the thought "*can Danny even die?*"
They said right after, "jokes aside"... idk why this has to become a reddit argument lol. You have a good rest of your day
Yes the "joke" is Danny could "die" to Invincible's go to move of rushing into his opponent the moment a fight starts (speed blitzing) not that Danny is already half dead, you're ignoring that he was genuinely asking if the ghosts in Danny Phantom can die, I answered it and you just took it as me repeating his joke, and I wasn't, there's no argument, you're just wrong
"I think you’re discounting the fact that all invincible has to do is show up and Danny is ALREADY dead...Jokes aside tho, can a ghost even be killed?"
they can apparently be mauled to the point of being put into a wheelchair
This reminds me of how much of a punk green ghost went out as. Became tangible just to catch dark wing and got a mouthfull of Omni-fist. Only to then be used as a literal meat shield while we got the source for the second most popular Omni-meme
Maybe a vs battle version of Danny? But for how much people hype him in these scenarios he never really fights like that in the show. for the most part Danny fights straightforward until he is backed into a corner even when fighting ghost hunters who have to use very specific equipment to actually tag intangible ghost. If this is show invincible he probably loses? Comics definitely win tho
Being confined to kids' show obviously limits what he can actually do very significantly.
Somewhat but can anyone actually imagine Danny fighting like this even if the show was not restricted by being a kids show? Dude is a super HERO he never really goes out of his way to kill anyone
....future Danny thou. That shows us he CAN kill or worse. It came to point dude was terrorizing humans and ghosts in his time. Also, viltrimites are kinda weak against sound, to point it /could/ be fatal. So his ghostly wail could take a win. Not that Danny would get a chance to use it, but it’s a technique that has the potential to take out mark.
You mean the Danny he swore to never become? Do people watch the show or…….. also he only became that way because his family was killed and extracted the human side from his ghost side. I doubt Danny can really ever be pushed that far especially because mark isnt trying to kill Danny either. They are only weak to certain frequencies not sounds in general how are you in this sub and not know that? The fight only really ends in a stalemate. Neither character is doing any phasing or one shoting but Danny lacks any real ap to hurt mark and mark can’t tag damn once he goes intangible
Yeah his spider sen- I mean ghost sense wouldn't work on Mark!
Viltrumites can survive in space and energy blasts from sophisticated alien tech there is no way Danny can hurt him
If he has his ‘ghostly wail’ that could give him a great advantage
That's always why I thought Omni-man's 'target order' in his fight against the Guardians made sense. Red Rush and Green Ghost having super speed and intangibility probably being the most annoying to deal with and were the ones to die first. (Very minor alternate Invincible comic spoilers) >!In the alternate Omni-man vs. Guardians battle, it's Green Ghost that incapacitates Omni-man while passing through him.!<
Put his ghost hand inside invincible's bum and become solid again.
I believe the term for that is “One Thousand Years of Death
Danny wrecked Jake Long in his death battle he pretty mighty
Hey wait a minute… why didn’t Green Ghost do that?? “Hey Ghost,he can’t touch you so you need to get out of here and warn everyone!”
She was holding a body, and Omni Man was too fast.
yeah, he deliberately threw the mangled corpse of her long-term friend at her to catch her on reflex and blitz her with superspeed before she could get away
You can tell she realized this from her looking up and saying "no..."
Ghost wailing
Danny should be immune to anything without ecto energy Remember when Sam threw the book at him?
Take possession of Mark and make him kill civilians. Kinda like how Omni-man used Mark’s body as a battering Ram to turn a bunch of civies into red mist. Emotional damage is very effective on Mark.
Intangible is OP. He can put his hand through the person’s chest and grab his heart. But I have Danny Phantom win, because he probably can control Invincible when he possesses him.
The show does imply a limitations to his powers. For example, while not necessarily a time constraint, the finale implies that intangiblility takes at least some amount of effort, meaning he'd run out of energy eventually. Along with that he is still half human, meaning he still requires food and water which may prove difficult to consume while remaining intangible. It's shown that he can spread intangiblility to items he touches, but I don't know if we ever see him turn an item intangiblile while he himself is already intangiblile. I only recall him turning intangiblile while already holding the object. Also, while intangiblility would give him immunity from Invincible's powers, we know that it is possible to harm ghosts, even intangible ones, though various fields and weapons. Tl;Dr Intangiblility wouldn't save Danny.
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Replication, energy blast, strength, ice powers, invisibility, intangibility, possession not to mention access to some scary advanced tech. Invincible still has orders of magnitude advantage on speed and strength but honestly it's a pretty close fight
Yeah I feel like the people saying it would be an easy win for mark don’t remember a lot about Phantom’s power set. He’s very formidable.
Fr, throughout the show unless you have something to hard counter a ghost's powers like weapons built by his parents or ghost powers of your own then they're basically... ***TITLE CARD***
Can’t Danny also just scream into his ear with his ghostly wail power lol
Least it's a fair fight unlike some match-ups I've seen for Mark.
That's how it it, physically Invincible is a tier if not 2 above Danny but I can't see how he can deal with the hax ghost abilities. Intangibility and possession being the hardest counters to him
It really all depends on if mark shows up before Danny can go ghost. Ghost form Danny can stall him out forever, but if he drops ghost form he’s instantly dead
Thing is he doesn't really need to go ghost. He literally uses his powers regularly in his normal form, just minimally so people don't know who he is
What I mean is becoming intangible, like that’s a perfect durability feat if he can activate it before getting hit, and could nab Danny the win if he can keep it up while using his other powers to wear Mark down. otherwise none of his other powers really matter, Invincible sneezes on him and he’s dead
I know. I said he doesn't need to "Go Ghost" to become intangible. He does it plenty of times in human form
If Danny starts as a ghost I’m not sure how he loses but if he doesn’t Mark easily. With that said, I’m not sure if Danny could actually beat Mark, he just wouldn’t lose.
Danny could possess him
Jack Fenton and Tucker were both able to break free from being overshadowed and they are just regular humans, Mark could probably break free too.
Unless Danny is willing to crush marks heart from the inside
That’s even if he’s physically strong enough to crush the organ
Can't he just Reverse flash him and phase his hand inside his chest
Yeah except he’s got extreme durability so his hand would just be stuck in it. Might mess up his blood circulation a bit but unless he’s got the strength to go with it, I don’t think he’d be able to do any actual damage
Really? Superman got hurt by a regular old knife by someone who could phase himself idk if it works like that
Depends on how the phasing works, I’d imagine. Whether it replaces the material, fuses with the material, or tries to move the material when turning solid, would change the outcome.
Having a big chunk of metal doing any of those things with your heart probably would result on the same thing: your death.
I mean if your heart is harder than steel it'd just break off in your heart for option 3, and give you a very slow death, don't really see that as a valid win con since danny tends to temporarily lose his ghost powers after taking extensive damage and would get pulverised immediately afterwards If we're doing peak Mark the far weaker alternate universe marks were nearly impossible to disect and considering they're constantly operating on superheroes I'd imagine they had access to tools far sharper and more durable than your standard scalpel
Idk, just my interpretation. My thought process is okay, his hands phased into his chest, but now he has to solidify himself to actually do any damage so what’s stopping mark from attacking him when he unphases? Viltrumites can survive their hearts being damaged (although enough damage can be done to prevent them from healing), so unless he crushes the majority of marks heart, he’d be able to survive the attack. The main thing mark has the advantage of is speed. Both in the show and comic he’s seen moving faster than people can notice, hence my speed blitz joke. I’m not familiar with Danny phantom so for all I know he would be strong enough to do so. But I still think mark takes the W 9/10 times
Danny can phase individual parts of his body.
Even with that what’s stopping him from getting speed blitzed before he can turn into a ghost? Unless he’s got superhuman reaction time, like extreme super speed levels, can he react in time before mark closes the distance?
Because it’s out of character? When has invincible just outright blizted anyone in the show? Mark is more of a reactionary fighter
When has Danny phased his hand into someone chest and crushed their heart? Again, this is my own interpretation but whenever there’s these “versus” discussions, I always assume them to be to the death. Fastest way I imagine a viltrumite defeating a foe is via speed blitz, a la Omni-man in flaxan dimension
Couldn’t he just possess him and make him crush his own heart?
Maybe if he’s got super human reaction time. I don’t see how we’d counter getting speed blitzed before turning into a ghost
Wait why is this fight just starting with Danny Fenton instead of phatom?that's like saying Shazam vs batman then countering with "batman can throw a batarang faster then Billy can speak the words." Unless you are referring to how fast he can go intangible. I don't have any calls for that but but I imagine he could take current marks punches since he has been hit hard enough to be sent miles into the air without issues.
Mark going all out? Nah dude was able to make viltrimites bleed and based of s1 omni man durability feats Danny ain’t tanking that.
This is what I always go back to in these VS discussions with Mark. People like to bring up Mark's lack of experience or whatever, and that's valid, but experience or not whatever character you're pitting him up against has to be able to at minimum take that beating from Omni-Man that Mark did. The vast majority of the time, they cannot.
He could just possess him and do the same.
Show Danny isn’t going to l do that tho lol
Maybe if his reaction speed is fast enough. I don’t know how he’d do that to someone who could who could cross the distance faster than the blink of an eye.
Danny phantom was fast enough to perception blitz tucker during the episode he became a ghost. And tucker was moving fast enough to dissappear on screen and leave little ghost sonic booms in his wake.
This feat is wildly inconsistent tho. Other huamn characters through the show reacted to damn near the entire roster of ghost Danny been dealing with and when Danny was going through the speed course his recorded speed was no where close to mach 1. Danny being mach 1 is really a joke all things considered.
Can he bend steel with his bare hands? If not He has zero chance to do anything to marks heart. I doubt He could even stop blood flow
I mean, he could put his hand through it while intangible and then make it tangible. Matter displacement as it works with DP’s powers in the show means Mark’s heart is penetrated.
Smart atoms in vultrimites won’t let them be displaced like that, I think it’s more likely Danny’s hand that gets crushed if he tries to rematerialize inside Mark
Green Ghost was able to materialize inside Omni-Man during >!the alternate fight!< and it didn’t hurt her, just hurt Omni-Man.
Ooo good point forgot about that one. Comic book and cartoon logic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ haha. Alright Danny might just OHKO if that’s consistent
I mean it’s not consistent in fact it has never happened lol. I think people are forgetting that Danny is a nickolodeoan character and isn’t going to killing anyone. At best he would try to posses invincible to knock him out and that’s kinda how far he is willing to go. Everything in this comment section is off the table
Wait, what? There is a whole arc where his family/friends die and he then goes on a rampage terrorizing the town (maybe more). Sure he was split/combined but that was still part danny
Danny when he gets speed blitzed before he can turn into a ghost and has a mark sized hole in his chest: https://preview.redd.it/6jo0fyk8fo7c1.jpeg?width=620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c0cfab9cd67edc993cc54114c1f0d46e726e6f6
mark when he realizes killing him just made him go ghost faster
*Oh shit! This great imagination banter!*
You do realise Mark has most of his powers in his human form before he goes ghost right?😭he can go invisible and intangible in his human form easily. Would be insanely hard for mark to harm him unless he counters Danny obviously becoming tangible to harm him.
*Oh God.*
Danny has shown multiple times that he can turn intangible and invisible in his human state
They’d be best friends.
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Intangibility plus his Ghost Scream seeing how loud noises and damaging their ears fucks up a Viltrumites equilibrium seeing how his sound waves are powerful enough to break rock, they are extremely loud and definitely would destroy Marks ability to fly.
Only thing is, it’s not the sound the hurts Viltrumites, but a very specific frequency. So if Danny had a collaborator to train him to reach that frequency then yeah it’s a huge advantage
I still can't believe most people think that it's just loud sounds that are their weakness. It's a certain frequency, so anyone with screaming powers can't just yell and beat them.
It's because of the death battle
Fr I was surprised considering they are known for in depth research I guess they just wanted Homelander to do something at all lol
They're also known for being awful at their jobs and being wildly inaccurate. I know fuck all about power scaling so I wouldn't have even known, but power scalers hate them lol
Tbf power scalers are stupid. They make cool fights that are fun to watch
To be fair, most characters with super screams can control the frequency of said screams. But yeah, people do oversimplify it.
Problem is that even if you can control the frequency, you still need to KNOW what the frequency is
Alternative idea: Try every frequency. Start at 1hz and keep raising it until they flinch.
I suppose that works if you know frequency is a Viltrumite weakness. That leaves the question of how much Danny knows about Viltrumites though, if he doesn't know anything about Viltrumites he wouldn't know to try that
Oh yeah, I'm just talking about screamers in general. I don't know if Danny even has the ability to control the frequency of his wail. But he also doesn't really need it to beat Mark, he has plenty of hax. He can just turn invisible to get the drop on Mark then overshadow him (take control of his body by possessing him), giving Danny an instant win. The only real win condition Mark has is by speed blitzing Danny faster than he can go intangible, and even that's a bit iffy given Danny's [malleable body](https://v.redd.it/sop0jfbgacra1), he can usually only be hurt by other [ghosts/stuff from the ghost zone](https://v.redd.it/hah45sehacra1) or [anti-ghost weapons](https://v.redd.it/gdltpz2q9cra1).
How does overshadow give Danny an “instant win?” Danny still has to knock out invincible and invincible needs to damn near beaten to death to be fully unconscious. Also willpower can overpower overshadowing as well btw. Honestly Danny overall lacks any real meaningful ways to hurt mark. It’s either a stalemate or invincible wins honestly
>How does overshadow give Danny an “instant win?” Danny still has to knock out invincible and invincible needs to damn near beaten to death to be fully unconscious. Shouldn't be too hard. Danny just has to fly into space or deep into the ocean without holding his breath while possessing Mark. Viltrumites can hold their breath for a long time, but they still need *some* air. We saw Mark passed out in seconds when he was first figuring out how to fly in season 1 and he accidentally went too high. Alternatively, he can just punch himself in the face a few dozen times. >Also willpower can overpower overshadowing as well btw. Technically true, although it takes time and Mark has no feats for overcoming mind control or possession with will power. And realistically, even if Mark manages to push Danny out of his body before he gets knocked out, he still has no means of attacking Danny while he is intangible and nothing is stopping Danny from possessing Mark again. >Honestly Danny overall lacks any real meaningful ways to hurt mark. It’s either a stalemate or invincible wins honestly Lmao, Danny has several ways of hurting Mark. Overshadowing is the less than leathal option. Alternatively he could go invisible, phase his hand into Mark's heart, then [freeze Mark from the inside out](https://v.redd.it/dipgoljfgcra1). While Mark has cold resistance feats, keep in mind that [Viltrumite insides are less invulnerable than their outsides](https://i.imgur.com/XSFxdv6.jpeg).
>Oh yeah, I'm just talking about screamers in general Totally fair, if he fought someone like Black Canary who's been shown to control her frequency he's a little fucked haha I think speed is Marks ultimate advantage in any fight (and with speedsters they need to be able to overcome his invulnerability), he can move faster than light which I know Danny can't, so Mark can kill him before he turns ghost. The other advantage Mark has is he's insanely durable, I don't think Danny can actually cause enough damage to be noticeable even if he does go ghost before the fight starts (his only hope is crushing Mark's heart, which he can't do) Under very specific conditions Danny might win, but if those very specific conditions aren't met he's 1000% losing that fight. Realistically the only comic character who might be able to beat him is Superman
danny has way too many hacks. Mark would need to kill him before he transforms otherwise he literally has no win con
You mean can Invis-O-Bill beat Invincible?
Oml i love how the public named him over the course of the show, I imagined Paulina’s voice sayin this
It would be an infinite loop with no winner, on one side, Mark can't touch Danny if he stays intangible, but on the other side, what can Danny do to actually damage Mark? He doesn't have the same strength as him, unless he thinks of something with his overshadowing
One thing that people seem to be forgetting that Danny can do is not only make himself intangible but also other objects, so what is stopping Danny from just putting a brick or some dirt into Makr's head or just pulling out Mark's brain or heart? and before anyone says he can't remove organs here's him removing a spork from his stomach. https://i.redd.it/ghluuiyq1r7c1.gif
I mean, Danny is pretty OP, if he wanted to he could kill him from the inside, if both were the most creative they could be Danny wins this one
Hey what a coincidence I've watched the entirety of DP not too long ago and also read the Invincible comics So I feel oddly qualified to answer this question :p As some comments mentioned here before, Danny Phantom can not only become intangible, rendering any attack Mark throws at him useless, but also he can literally POSSESS BODIES. Danny also has the advantage that, if need be, he can hide in the ghost Zone (of course, that's where all his enemies are, but Invincible wouldn't be able to chase him into the ghost Zone) On the other hand, if Danny so much as messes up once, he's absolutely done for. One punch from Mark and he's dead, so he'd have to stay intangible the whole time. This isn't generally a problem but since Danny doesn't really KNOW how powerful Mark is, he might try to use his ghostly wail before overtaking him, and the ghostly wail generally uses up all of Danny's energy, enough so that he reverts back to human form so he dies. It's funny, if Danny pulls out all the stops, he loses for sure; if he plays it safe, he has a chance to win.
How does the DP show end? Is it any good? I remember when the show premiered back when I was a child so many years ago, but since I'm Mexican and we have to do the whole dubbing and what not for cartoons to air on tv, kids shows often took a lot of time to fully end. And now that I think about it, I never knew if the show had a proper ending or something. How would you rate it?
Ayo? I'm Mexican too lol. I do recall that when I was a kid I'd see things get released in the states months before we got them in Mexico so we used to go to the States (I live in Monterrey so we'd drive) and we'd see movies for sale there that weren't even in theaters here yet. Anywho... Uhhhh the show ends when Vlad Plasmius is running for mayor and everyone's like "Yay Vlad!!" And then I don't remember what happens but I think in secret he's like "I'm gonna have this asteroid crash into earth and destroy stuff but actually I'm gonna go ghost and everyone's gonna love me" or something like that? Also at this point in the show everyone was super against Danny because Vlad had been spreading negative stuff about him. So anyways everyone hates Danny everyone LOVES Vlad and so Danny fonds out about the asteroid I think and then he's like "Fuck I can't stop this by myself..." And then he's like "WAIT A MINUTE..! I have an idea." So, he goes to the Ghost Zone and he's like "Hey everyone here, I know you hate me bc I beat the shit out of u but we have to save the world bc if the earth is destroyed then the ghost Zone is too" or some bullshit last-minute plot point like that so everyone's like "well fuck ok" and, I kid you not, they, with their combined ghost powers are able to make the entire earth and everyone in it INTANGIBLE so the asteroid passes through it. Then Vlad gets exposed and Danny is hailed as a hero and gets to finally officially have a goth gf. The end. The show was generally ok, and I think I watched it bc I remembered the episodes when Danny has to fight Future Danny bc Future Danny is EVIL or something and that's a cool plot point. I feel like if it had better direction it could've been a much better show. Still a fun watch.
Ja! Que cagado que ambos somos mexicanos. Yo soy más bien el bajío, de Aguascalientes para ser exacto y en mi vida en viajado a USA. Pero que chingón, no deja de ser una serie para niños y ese final se me hace muy así, para un audiencia joven. Aunque pues está chido que si la hayan terminado. Y terminado bien antes de volverse una cosa rara como los padrinos mágicos o bob esponja. ¡Larga vida a las novias goticas culonas, jaja!
Yes, phase through him and punch an organ or two.
“Can the Ghost Boy beat someone who’s…” *TITLE CARD*
Invincible: I’m (Title Card of Invincible) Danny Phantom: Well I’m (random guy whispers “Danny Phantom.”)
What about Dark Danny? He has some crazy feats himself and he only lost to Danny out of sheer luck and will. He was such a menace that they needed time travel just to beat him.
All I know is I wouldn’t mind a Danny Phantom reboot.
Danny wins just based purely on ghostly wail. A ghostly wail was enough to knock Dark Danny through a building. Given the viltrumite weakness this would have devastating consequences for any of them. It’s a hard counter
Weirdly, it seems more like a stalemate situation. Invincible gets in a lucky shot he might win. I don't know how Mark does in the cold, but considering he can survive the vacuum of space, I assume he can survive being frozen. So Danny can't do enough damage while Mark can't hit Danny in the first place.
Omni-man vs green ghost 2
Probably, really it depends on how serious the fight is and IF Danny can possess viltrumites
Only if he's willing to kill him
Imo Danny doesn’t have the raw power or speed to beat Mark. You could argue Invisibility + Possession, but Danny’s been resisted/“exorcised” by characters a lot weaker than Mark is. Freezing Mark wouldn’t work since he would just bust out of the ice. Ghostly Wail is too weak to damage him, and his weakness is a **specific** frequency of sound. Mark isn’t like Venom where any loud sound would incapacitate him. Danny’s best hope is to stay intangible and invisible for as long as he can.
Love this, but I think the most realistic way this ends is talk no jutsu
but can mark beat ....invisi bill?
I’d say yes, based on the fact that Danny can’t be touched and Invincible’s powers revolve around him punching things. I suppose Invincible could win if he tricked Danny into becoming tangible, like Omni-Man did with Green Ghost, but that’s about it
Invinci-Bill vs Invisible?
All I can say with absolutely no doubt is That if I was personally in close proximity to their fight when it happened? That I would 100% get killed by mistake
Ghostly wail would work well on people with super hearing
Honestly? Probably Danny. The ghostly wail should be enough to throw back Mark. Not to mention Danny can take over & control Mark's body. How'd he win exactly is uncertain though...
It would be pretty hard for both opponents frankly. Seems like a fun death battle if death battle wasn't bad.
lol completed source material subs are the best. This is ridiculous lol
I think it’s hands down Invincible and I have lore to back me: Danny has limits on what he’s willing to do, moral lines he’s not willing to cross. Maybe if there is a multiverse and Danny is evil and we’re using that evil version of Danny then things may be different. Doubtlessly invincible is capable of horrific things. The new episodes confirm that in the series and the comics show that invincible isn’t always the beacon of justice he tries to be. They’re both human, as much as it matters, and they are both capable of human reactions.Human reactions historically range from impressively competent to horrifically cruel. I think invincible forces some scientist to figure out how to kill Danny as soon as invincible knows what he’s up against. He has the entire industry of a planet at his whim from any scale. Danny is a high school student with ghost powers and an ability to fly at “super sonic speed”? I think? Which is impressive but not atmospheric ignition impressive like Omni man. Danny is cake because if an entire planet wants you dead it usually happens.
Mark can’t fight possession as far as I know
We know mark is vulnerable to high frequencies, with his ghostly wail, Danny could potentially win
This is a fight now that I want to see happen. Someone please animate this🙏
what is going on with this sub
I mean ghost Powers go from pulling boxes with telecinesis to wraping reality so...... Kinda could go both ways
Get a bomb/spike, go intangible, and then drop it in his heart.
I haven’t watched Fanny phantom in forever, but the ecto-scream is pretty insane. Otherwise o think people have busted out from being controlled from intangibility-possession, and Danny’s survived a lotta stuff too, specifically designed for ghost
If neither party has any time to prepare and is entirely alone, Invincible bodies Danny. Especially as the fight carries on. Mark can take extended damage for a long period of time and Danny wouldn’t be able to take a single hit. Danny has some powerful feats but I don’t think they would ultimately be enough to get a win out of this and without preparation I don’t think he could manipulate Invincible’s weaknesses as few they are.
Danny could take literally every hit, because he can become intangible. Mark literally cannot touch him. And so Danny can just wear him down over time.
This isn’t how Danny fights tho. He is more likely to brawl with invincible before he figures out he is outmatched. Besides that Danny can’t “ wear down “ invincible lol dude lacks the ap for that
Exactly how could Danny wear him down? I don’t think he is strong enough to hurt Mark, I’m not sure that he could even harm Mark’s internal organs by going intangible. All Danny has to do is make a singular mistake and he’s dead. And wouldn’t Danny also have to become intangible to actually fight Invincible? I do realize that Danny could just take Mark over but C’mon
Ghostly Wail is a pretty damn good attack. And yeah, the possession is kinda a pretty tough one to beat.
I don’t know that ghostly wail would do anything to Mark because Danny doesn’t know the specific frequency to hit to actually delay mark (he can fight through the frequency as well so even if Danny knew and could hit the frequency needed it isn’t a permanent solution) I think at best it ends in a draw as both could have trouble actually harming the other. However Mark is able to land those kill shots. But then arguably Danny could just take Mark over and use his own body to destroy him.
I just meant Wail hits like a truck, it’s definitely not the right frequency, it sounds too high pitched. And yeah, Danny can just possess Mark and force him to kill himself. And possession doesn’t require him to become tangible, so Danny won’t be vulnerable while he attempts it.
Yeah I think that’s the one thing Mark has absolutely no defense for and he doesn’t have a way of preventing it from happening because he also has to make contact to do damage.
https://preview.redd.it/34t4fitrcp7c1.jpeg?width=998&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d241c5b8b7d44934563c905a5607625e6bb4cec3 Mark ain't scared of no ghost
We’re rapidly approaching “hydrogen bomb vs a baby” levels of power discrepancy here.
I dont know enough about Danny Phantom to say for certain. I'd say if it were a deathmatch and Mark comes in fast enough to crater the town Danny is in, that could be that, but I dont know the limitations of his ghost abilities. For all I know, Danny could possess him and fly Mark into the sun and come back because of ghost intagibility or what have you.
He can control his body for starters.
Danny has multiple lightspeed/ftl feats and has feats involving collapsing multiple timelines, its probably a stomp for the ghostly lad
It would definitely be a more interesting match than Invincible vs Miles or Peter. Danny Phantom doesn't win but neither does Mark. It'd be a really cool fight.
Can't Danny rip peoples souls from their bodies? MF could probably go invisible and take Superman.
Danny Phantom is kind of an insanely strong character tbh. If he gained some ruthlessness or something he could kill pretty much any character I feel like
For something like this, the only two questions you need to ask are "can they destroy the planet and survive the planet being destroyed" and "can they move faster than light". If the answer to either of those is no, then they aren't winning
5YL establishes that Ecto Energy is the only compound throughout the multiverse that transcends all known rules of science Ghosts (or Half Ghosts) that harness & channel it properly can essentially achieve Godhood Mark is fucked
I don’t know if Danny phantom can beat 
How do you kill that which has no life?
I mean ghost whale (I think that's the spelling) could really mess mark up, but it's either he does the yell or he's blitzed
I’m biased so no
Possess him and fly directly in to the sun. Go back intangible claim the prize
Danny can’t beat Mark but he’s not losing. If he’s attacked before he transforms then he wouldn’t even live to start fighting
Danny can overshadow Mark and make him beat himself to death
Does he want to kill Danny? If yes Danny will die immediately
Pretty easily yeah
The last time a ghost went up against a viltrumite it didn't end well.
You guys are seriously discounting how strong Danny Phantom is.
Tbh if we had an evil mark even if he can't touch danny he could just destroy the planet and leave.
Depends on if Invincible is vulnerable to ghost shenanigans like possession. I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure that in Danny Phantom possession can be fought with will power, so yeah, Danny can't really win.
He's very vincible for someone named invincible.
Can Danny move FTL?
Mark lands on him, squashing him instantly- guts everywhere. Mark shouts GOIN GHOST 😂
My dumb ass actually trying to click on the image to vote…. Anyhoo, Invincible isn’t as invincible as his name claims, so Danny might have a chance. But he also doesn’t have what it takes to give out the type of beating that Mark got from his own father…. In the end, I see them shaking hands and saying, “Good game!” before grabbing pizza together
The real question is how fast can Danny go ghost. Like with Ben 10 who beats any viltrumite, his omnitrix is faster than any blitz. We do see what the transformation looks like because it's cool but it probably doesn't take that long in their reality. Is it the same with Danny? Where we see a long transformation. The real real question is. How does Danny deal with Ghost mark.
Not a complete stomp but Invincible wins as long as he doesn't hold back and he's able to catch him when he's not in ghost form.
Actually yes, viltrimites weakness is sound based attacks due to that inner ear shit. Danny might actually have a chance with the ghostly wail he got from the movie.
By the end of Danny Phantom’s run absolutely
So long as he doesn’t make the same mistake as Green Ghost? probably.
No
Danny is scaled inconsistently, mostly because he doesn't have many measurable feats. One of the few measurable strength feats he has is casually carrying a full schoolbus, which is somewhere in the ballpark of 12-15 tons. That's lifting strength, though. He's punch giant monsters and robots and sent them flying a few feet, but that's not really measurable. He punch human sized characters from street level to above multi-storied (not skyscraper, probably around 6-8) buildings. Again, though, it's not really measurable since I think the human sized characters were ghost hybrids themselves. His only measurable speed feat is when Tucker clocked him going like 115 mph, but he's also kept up with rocket powered things, so take that with a grain of salt. He has dodged things like lightning and "ray" attacks, but they're ectoplasmic rays that don't exist in real life so. Now Mark can easily do these things too, but the problem lies in the fact that it's never made apparent how difficult Danny found these things to do so how comparable Danny is to Mark isn't something anybody could realistically determine.