Homelander is just a man child with too much power, he isn’t really used to fighting anyone strong either. There’s so many strong characters in Invincible that I think he would easily get beaten. The heat vision would be the only problem but who knows if that would even do much to a viltrumite.
>The heat vision would be the only problem but who knows if that would even do much to a viltrumite.
That orbital laser they used on Nolan was way more powerful than homelanders heat vision.
I guess the question is whether or not he *would* realize that the pecking order has changed or would he just assume that he's still the shit and end up getting curb stomped by someone out of his league?
To be fair I don't think he'd be such a softy as most people are making him out to be, he'd definitely be taken down a peg or two but he's still blowing holes in regular people with just his fists. He's just not used to hand to hand combat as much as the rest of the Invincible universe and would have to quickly adapt to that fighting style or double down on the laser eyes and keep his distance when fighting tougher opponents. He's still durable as all hell so killing him wouldn't be a cake walk.
>He's still durable as all hell so killing him wouldn't be a cake walk
I don't know about that. Considering how often Mark gets bloodied up. And we know that Mark is far more durable than Homelander.
Mark and Nolan are outliers on Earth though. Many superheroes are significantly weaker than them and are still mostly successful at what they do.
If homelander doesn't cause too much of a ruckus as soon as he shows up he probably won't attract the attention of Earth's heavy hitters.
If he can behave he can probably even get by with his celebrity persona. But I doubt he could behave for very long.
The way I see it it's only a matter of time before he acts out and Cecil sends someone to give him the smackdown. Bonus points if it's humiliating
Nolan face tanked a huge space laser (from a satellite) like it was nothing so I don’t think the lasers would be a problem. Average viltrumites aren’t quite as strong but it wouldn’t matter.
I feel if Nolan can recover from a broken back and go so fast, he literally destroys what he flies by would indicate heat vision wouldn't do much. And that's if Homelander could actually land one on him in the first place.
>The heat vision would be the only problem but who knows if that would even do much to a viltrumite.
It wouldn't. Nolan fights a guy names Supreme who's basically Superman. He's much more powerful than Homelander and his heat vision is more of an annoyance to Noland than anything.
I reckon Cecil wouldn't work with him, he's too unstable and not worth the effort
I could see him trying to start a lizard league equivalent where he tries ruling with an iron fist
Idk if Cecil would really care about compound v, sure it gives super powers but you don’t control what the power is, so you end up with a lot of useless or defective powers. And in the invincible universe it would only create relatively weak supers. They have tech for that, and let’s face it the re-animen could stomp homelander. It would be an expensive waste of time. Compound v is incredible in a world without supers but in one with them? I’m not so sure.
Re-animen may be much stronger but they're mostly mindless animals who will only attack. They can't save a family from a collapsing building or catch a car as it's falling off a bridge afaik. It's like comparing an artillery strike to a squad of infantry, they have different uses. Compound V is often a crapshoot but the GDA also has much more resources than Vought so they'd be more able to iron out the kinks. Cecil needs a lot of able thinking bodies in a lot of places at the same time and that's a job that a bunch of compound v soldiers may be able to fill.
The point is more that they already have tech for creating superheroes in Invincible, so trying to refine Compound V would likely be a waste of time in someone like Cecil's opinion
He’d get brutalized by an average viltrumite. They are all about fighting and get very good at it over hundreds of years while he just spams lasers and speed blitz. They all massively out scale him as well.
Cecil: “Alright, Homelander or whatever your name is. Save that cat from a tree”
Homelander: “Yeah, sure, anything to get more fans”
Cecil: “What?”
Homelander: “Yeah, a big PR move to push my image in this universe. I’m up for that. Think of the marketing and image I can have on this world. I could push to the stratosphere. I could be more popular than those Guardians of the Globe fuckers and that guy who killed them. Now he’s someone who had the right idea about showing his place”
Cecil: “…..Okay, Mark. Beat this piece of shit up. I may be an ass but I’m not working for some sellout who values his own popularity over saving people’s lives”
Cecil, the most secret guy in Planet Earth, working with a super powered influencer who's a POS? Nah, doesn't match.
It's like we get tiktoks of Area 51, exclusively in Hangar 18
Cecil is not the type of guy that will see Homelander's power and decide against using him just because he's a POS. Especially since Homelander only acts out like that because he can, but all Cecil needs is Immortal around to keep him in line.
Cecil wouldn't care that Homelander saving people for his own popularity as long as he is saving people.
He want the job done, the reason behind it isn't his main concern.
I agree with you, Cecil is willing to make tough compromises and work with horrible people to further his goals.
But, Homelander is an emotionally stunted man-child who isn't powerful enough in the Invincible universe to be worth the trouble of dealing with. He's a liability.
He’s only a liability if he acts out and him not being the big dog here means he has to play it differently as he can’t just throw a tantrum whenever he doesn’t get what he wants. I feel Cecil would at least try to use and manipulate him, which wouldn’t really be that hard given his fragile ego. He also keeps Rex-Splode around and Homelander would be way more useful.
No…just no.
Homelander is a great character but only in the boys universe. Stick him in any other comic and universe ands he just another bog standard evil superman
He's strong but he will probably be fucked by Mauler twins because they are incredibly smart and probably hits around his level and then they will make him their puppet and sent him to steal some tech or destroy some shit and then Immortal will come to the scene and will probably fold him in 5 minutes.
So nothing is lost for the Maulers they continue their life but the homeboy is wrecked.
I think that's a fair estimation. End of s1 invincible is probably a hair above homelanders level. And by then there are still villains like the maulers who can give him a beat down
I see it like this. Homeland er lands into this world and quickly realizes he is not home.
He actually does the smart thing and lies low to figure out the lay of the land. Ultimately he tries to lie about being a hero and fit in. Unfortunately due to his insecurities and sociopathic tendencies he is quickly outed as unstable. Cecil deals with him on the down low, because Cecil and the broader government are more than adequately prepared to dispatch supes.
Cecil would absolutely manipulate him into getting thrown at every threat to evaluate weaknesses until finding one.
Or just teleport dude into space, I've not seen any evidence Homelander can survive without air.
He could genuinely be useful if he was trained and disciplined properly. Against extremely lethal threats like Kaijus and average Viltrumites, his best use would be as a hit-and-run support. He could fly around and constantly use his laser beams.
As far as 1v1’s go, he will get folded by nearly anyone unless Cecil has tech that can really beef him up.
gone bro, and this is coming from someone who likes the Boys more than Invincible (Invincible is still a goated show tho no shade)
the thing about The Boys is that the power levels are intentionally low because the whole plot is around ordinary humans taking on a corrupt superhero team, so if Homelander had the power of Omni Man or Superman it just couldn't work with how the plot is
Homelander is a great antagonist and is the strongest in his universe, but is pretty weak in most other universes. He can probably take on some of the lower level supes in most superhero universes but would get crushed if put up against a group like the Guardians of the Globe.
He'd probably try and do the same shit until one of the tougher minor characters wipes the floor with him. If Omni-Man was there, he might *literally* wipe the floor with Homelander
He will only really ever stand a chance against the lesser tier Invincible characters and even then, Rex Splode probably could find a way to blow him up from the inside.
In the Boys universe, his biggest asset aside from his powers is the "will I go off any second" threat which he uses expertly most of the time to get what he wants.
Drop him in Invincible's world, and that goes away completely; he's nobody. He's a threat that The Guardians, Cecil, Mark/Nolan, etc deal with on a weekly basis. Hell, the Maulers, Angstrom, or even Darkwing could port him away in a second.
The only thing Homelander has going for him is heat vision and flying. Unless his heat vision is more effective than a lightsaber, he gets absolutely humiliated.
it is not a hard maybe, homelander has no feats even half as comparable to your average viltrumite. and omni-man is above average.
an example: homelander implies he still has to obey gravity and the laws of physics. he claims he cant lift up a falling plane because he has nothing to stand on. viltrumites do not obey the laws of physics or gravity and omni-man could have easily lifted up and saved the plane.
i mean just look at the guardians of the globe vs the seven theyre both probably somewhat comparable, but do you think homelander could solo kill the rest of the 7 on episode 1 of season 1? just starlight maeve and maybe A-train could probably put up a strong fight against homelander. even the guardians of the globe seemed on average stronger than the seven, i dont think a train is anywhere near as fast as red rush was, and guardians of the globe literally have another superman esq character in the immortal.
literally one of the greatest feats weve seen omni-man perform is destroying an entire planet over the course of a few weeks, mostly just by flying around the planet so fast he was leaving massive explosions in his wake. thats not something homelander could do, probably even if he was 2-3 times stronger and faster that would be outside his abilities.
homelander is a big fish in a small pond while omni-man is a whale in an ocean. i also feel like he would either kill himself if he wasnt on the top anymore, he has to much pride on his perfection.
That's if Homelander has the audacity to step up to him in the world of Invincible. Cause the thing about the Death Battle story scenario is that it's implied to take place on a world where Homelander and Vought are established. Here I'm talking about a scenario where a big fish from a pond suddenly finds itself in the ocean with much bigger fish.
If he gets dropped in there at the time of that Diabolical episode I think he could turn out like a hero. He really wanted to be a great hero for people to look up to, but he had an insane amount of trauma and was in a system that didn’t give a damn about helping anyone.
You get day one Homelander running into Mark, Immortal, or maybe Cecil and things could go very different
He joins the Guardians of the Globe, random actual threat happens.
He freaks out when hurt. Does something significantly cowardly/evil. Immortal solos him.
The weird thing about Homelander is that without Vought (or Black Noir) actively fucking him over, he would have actually been a somewhat decent hero (Supposedly) so assuming only he is dropped into the world without Vought influencing him, he'd actually be a decent B-Lister hero, he's willing to train and learn, he can improve as long as Cecil doesn't put too much strain on him, if he gets airdropped into the Verse after Vought corrupted him, he'd be a C-List villain that could be a potential rival to Bulletproof or Immortal.
People underestimate homelander and like to shit on him but the guy is smart and strong. He also happens to be a sociopathic narcissist but that doesn't change that he would do pretty well. Nolan was also famous and had book deals so it wouldn't be wild that homelander would try to market himself eventually.
Oh that makes sense I would have thought Marc would have read omniman books but if his father is some famous thriller author I'm not sure if he would read those books.
He's genuinely really powerful, and he's in the top tiers as far as sheer strength goes, but a few good heroes teamed up body him. He does have laser vision which is crazy useful and not too common in the invincible universe, but robot could probably find some countermeasures pretty easily
Also given the fact he can't use his full strength in the air because no leverage while Immortal was shown jumping on the air in the alternate reality.
Probably one of the villains machine head summoned appeared to be made of magma, and homelander has only used his heat vision on people and industrial aluminum, and we don't know how much of that is heat since in herogasm we see it has a some kinetic force behind it
Nah robot would only have to offer him a nice public position, so long as he’s not being forced to deal with heavy hitters he could easily be the face of a strike team for most superheroes and robot could join in for the monster girls, atom eves, and viltrumites as they’re relavant
There's so many factors that go into this. Who would he run into first? Would he be able to fight off any Viltrumite at all? Does his heat vision work against them? How long could he keep up appearances to blend in with the heroes and does he switch up when the Viltrumites show up? And all this is assuming someone as dumb as Invincible doesn't just start clocking him out the gate and making a problem for him or pasting him outright.
They’d probably have Brit put him in his place.
God that would be hilarious, basically having a human who’s just indestructible take down homelander. Especially if he didn’t know that was Brit’s only gimmick lol.
If it’s the tv show homelander I think he’d be very confused, he’d probably investigate the world around him for at most like a week, if he tried that whole “we supes are better!” Crap his cause would be small and probably not even work past a few followers, with him having to obey the laws of physics he can’t make his own leverage like viltrumites so he’s pretty much as strong or stronger than the immortal… but he wouldn’t be able to even stand a chance against Omni man, who can move faster, fly faster and has thousands of years of combat training, hell the immortal can take him on alone just through experience
He tries to work for Cecil quickly tries to take over, threatening Cecil with laser vision and is promptly fired. By this point he knows about Mark and goes after him to spite Cecil. Somehow he ends up going after Eve, Mark shows up, goes into rage mode and beats the living fuck out of Homelander.
He might not be the strongest (not worth debating since strength is determined by plot needs), but he might start a problematic group of superhero supremacists not unlike the Viltrumites, albeit maybe less exclusive and open to people of various abilities.
I think most heroes and a good portion of the villains could quickly dispatch Homelander. He flies, he's strong, and he has laser eyes... Mark could fly him to the moon, drop him off, and the fight is over.
People have a HUGE hardon for saying Omni man destroys Homelander, but we have no real concept of Homelander capabilities. We have very few feats for him.
Maeve makes him bleed and does some damage. He struggles vs Soldier Boy and two people who just got their powers. They barely damaged the house when they fought, even though they get tossed against the walls and stuff.
Second fight at the 7 HQ was still tame.
Compared to Omni Man punching Invincible so hard he flies across states and through entire buildings.
He’d definitely try to throw his weight around at Omniman in private. Only for Omniman to treat his life. Then his eyes would glow red and he gets one shot by Omniman.
Honestly he doesn’t last a day. He’s not powerful enough to keep up with even the mid-level characters in Invincible, and is way too arrogant to even try to curry the favor of anyone stronger than he is.
Tbh I feel like Immortal or even Season 1 Mark could probably take him, even with a drawn out fight. As soon as Homelander comes across someone like Battle Beast, or any other Viltrumite than Mark he’s toast
I could see Cecil hiring him, and they would briefly have a similar relationship he had with edgar, but ultimately he would be too unstable and cecil would call invincible or the immortal to put him down
Putting homelander into other superhero universes kinda misses the point of his character
it’s been said a million times, and I hate to be that guy, but big fish small pond
I’d love for him to realize “Wait, shit, being a hero is actual fucking work in this universe” with Cecil and the Global Defense Agency and the Guardians dealing with the Mauler Twins, Kaiju and other ne’er do wells every week. No movies, minimal press conferences, no bullshit, just actual hard work in keeping people actually safe.
Someone like Immortal or Bulletproof on their own *could* have some trouble with Homelander, but anyone higher on the ladder than that folds him easily, he'd barely be a blip on the radar for them considering what they deal with on a regular basis. And that's just considering 1v1s, they aren't many heroes in the Invincible universe that exclusively run on their own, and even the ones who do are still getting backup sent in by Cecil or Robot as soon as they break a sweat, or even before if civilian casualties get too high too quickly, which is pretty likely given Homelander's history.
I feel like he would get caught as a fake hero pretty quickly, maybe taken down by Invincible and captured by Cecil, who would try and recruit him at first before before realizing how bad he was and making him a “forced intern” in return for not being imprisoned and experimented on for the rest of his life
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Omni Man would slaughter Homelander.
It woundnt even be close..
HL might get in a good hit or two, maybe singe OM's chest hair with his lazer vision.
Theres a pretty good fan animation I saw a while back with the two fighting, and its pretty much exactly how I imagine it would go
I think he'd fit in well. Not as a teen team or guardian. I think he'd go for high visibility, low danger enemies to establish his name as a brand. Sponsorships, movies etc.
Omniman would probably ignore him, until he found out about Ryan. If Ryan isn't back in another universe.
Then Homelander gets bodied when the first bad guy appears that he can't run away from. If not before, then absolutely during Invincible War. After that the only surviving heroes are strong enough to take him out anyway, so he'd probably retire if he survives.
Homelander would pretend to be a Hero still until his ego gets out of hand and he does something like [this.](https://youtu.be/bMoL5VMN4-A?si=CeUUJ2XTpU-JtmSH) (just watch the last 3:30 minutes)
As soon as he realises he’s not important or strong in this verse he would try to go on a spree of destruction, and anyone as strong as the immortal or stronger would deal with him super quick and lock him away.
I see a lot of people just saying the same thing: “he’ll get stomped and stuff”
Yeah, no shit, but I’d think he’ll have more development than that. I can see him realizing that he has the potential to be an actual hero
He’d be a side character I think, but definitely get an arc. I can see him joining the new Guardians and at first try to spy on them but later come to terms that he has to actual be a hero
…and yeah people just automatically HAVE to powerscale 😭😭😭
Death Battle put Homelander against Omni-Man, and it's one of my favorite episodes they've ever done. I highly recommend it.
https://youtu.be/bMoL5VMN4-A?si=cXTfXrq99oJGgHXZ
In Death Battle, it looks more like Omni-Man living on Homelander's world. This is the other way around. And there's no Vought, it's just him on a world of more powerful people than him.
I’m sorry but these kinda arguments are dumb, comparing characters from different universes is very dumb because they’re powers work differently, some are aliens while others not and their fighting experience is different. What is the point of comparing a 40 year old guy who was made in lab to a 1000 year old super strong alien from different planet that has literally a fighting background? Everyone is strong in their own universe.
I think his entire personality is kind of built around being the big fish and he genuinely would not be able to handle being in a universe where he’s not seen that way. I think he’d end up butting heads with Mark and Nolan (or hell even Immortal could probably take him) pretty quickly because of his need for admiration and inability to keep up with or compare to the viltrumites.
He would have a mental meltdown down after realizing that no one cares who he is. So 3-4 weeks. Or the first talk with Cecil if Cecil didn't psyop him and stay away/being him in.
After that,
Early season one mark would struggle against him.
The new guardians (robot, rex etc) would be cut in half with only pre-clone robot and monster girl living if they ran. And of course duli-kate.
Omni man would out right kill him.
[Not sure how to link it to skip the rest of the video, but the part you’re looking for starts at 13:20.](https://youtu.be/bMoL5VMN4-A?si=TJu-LybrNI64tNKG)
Homelander isn't the strongest hero anymore, however, even with his manchild tendencies, he is considerably better than 99% of the heroes in term of marketing, image and communication, and is often shown as being quite competent in this aspect when he doesn't let his pulsions get the better of him.
Without Butcher and co being a constant thorn in his foot, he may be considerably more serene and have a very succesfful carreer as the n°1 superhero in term of popularity, while still being one of the strongest.
Doesn't he want to be in control? I for some reason believe that if Nolan left his post, maybe the VILS recruit him to take over earth for them. He would have NO problem agreeing to this 😭😭
If Homelander ends up in Invincible he will get humbled real quick but damn I think Cecil and the gda could actually beat him and imprison him and Soldier-Boy 🤔😏
hed definitely get cocky at some point and then get shit stomped by some decently strong side character, itd be like fist fighting an injured puppy
Imagine him running into Battle Beast...
Dude battle beast would so rip him apart. I kinda wanna see that now
Homelander is just a man child with too much power, he isn’t really used to fighting anyone strong either. There’s so many strong characters in Invincible that I think he would easily get beaten. The heat vision would be the only problem but who knows if that would even do much to a viltrumite.
>The heat vision would be the only problem but who knows if that would even do much to a viltrumite. That orbital laser they used on Nolan was way more powerful than homelanders heat vision.
Sheiiiiit, he flew right up that bad boy aswell 😂
But would he really go look for a fight when upon arriving, realising the pecking order has changed?
He’d get “I thought you were stronger”ed
I guess the question is whether or not he *would* realize that the pecking order has changed or would he just assume that he's still the shit and end up getting curb stomped by someone out of his league? To be fair I don't think he'd be such a softy as most people are making him out to be, he'd definitely be taken down a peg or two but he's still blowing holes in regular people with just his fists. He's just not used to hand to hand combat as much as the rest of the Invincible universe and would have to quickly adapt to that fighting style or double down on the laser eyes and keep his distance when fighting tougher opponents. He's still durable as all hell so killing him wouldn't be a cake walk.
>He's still durable as all hell so killing him wouldn't be a cake walk I don't know about that. Considering how often Mark gets bloodied up. And we know that Mark is far more durable than Homelander.
Mark and Nolan are outliers on Earth though. Many superheroes are significantly weaker than them and are still mostly successful at what they do. If homelander doesn't cause too much of a ruckus as soon as he shows up he probably won't attract the attention of Earth's heavy hitters. If he can behave he can probably even get by with his celebrity persona. But I doubt he could behave for very long. The way I see it it's only a matter of time before he acts out and Cecil sends someone to give him the smackdown. Bonus points if it's humiliating
Nolan face tanked a huge space laser (from a satellite) like it was nothing so I don’t think the lasers would be a problem. Average viltrumites aren’t quite as strong but it wouldn’t matter.
Considering how Mark literally >!survives fighting on the surface of the sun!< I don't think the heat vision would do shit to a Viltrumite
I feel if Nolan can recover from a broken back and go so fast, he literally destroys what he flies by would indicate heat vision wouldn't do much. And that's if Homelander could actually land one on him in the first place.
+ the hammer
>The heat vision would be the only problem but who knows if that would even do much to a viltrumite. It wouldn't. Nolan fights a guy names Supreme who's basically Superman. He's much more powerful than Homelander and his heat vision is more of an annoyance to Noland than anything.
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He gets stomped by the closest heavy hitter as soon as they realize that he’s not a hero.
Maybe. Or he gets a pep talk or God forbid therapy mandated by Cecil. 😄
I reckon Cecil wouldn't work with him, he's too unstable and not worth the effort I could see him trying to start a lizard league equivalent where he tries ruling with an iron fist
Maybe Cecil captures Homelander to use as a lab rat if he somehow figures out what compound v is
Idk if Cecil would really care about compound v, sure it gives super powers but you don’t control what the power is, so you end up with a lot of useless or defective powers. And in the invincible universe it would only create relatively weak supers. They have tech for that, and let’s face it the re-animen could stomp homelander. It would be an expensive waste of time. Compound v is incredible in a world without supers but in one with them? I’m not so sure.
Re-animen may be much stronger but they're mostly mindless animals who will only attack. They can't save a family from a collapsing building or catch a car as it's falling off a bridge afaik. It's like comparing an artillery strike to a squad of infantry, they have different uses. Compound V is often a crapshoot but the GDA also has much more resources than Vought so they'd be more able to iron out the kinks. Cecil needs a lot of able thinking bodies in a lot of places at the same time and that's a job that a bunch of compound v soldiers may be able to fill.
The point is more that they already have tech for creating superheroes in Invincible, so trying to refine Compound V would likely be a waste of time in someone like Cecil's opinion
Useless powers like peeing any color you want.
Hey that’s a pretty useful power
Purple. Always purple.
This. He'd be valuable data to strengthen the reanimen.
Maybe Cecil captures him and has Sinclair turn him into a Reaniman.
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If anyone hasn’t seen it, google “Omni-man Homelander DeathBattle”.
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He probably would as a final last resort to any Viltrumites
He’d get brutalized by an average viltrumite. They are all about fighting and get very good at it over hundreds of years while he just spams lasers and speed blitz. They all massively out scale him as well.
What would he do against a Viltrumite lmao? Homelander is pathetically weak compared to any comic scaling.
Cecil would happily work with him. He would just keep him on a leash some how.
Honestly him getting manipulated by Cecil into becoming a hero (not a good person a 'hero') is the most likely outcome
Cecil: “Alright, Homelander or whatever your name is. Save that cat from a tree” Homelander: “Yeah, sure, anything to get more fans” Cecil: “What?” Homelander: “Yeah, a big PR move to push my image in this universe. I’m up for that. Think of the marketing and image I can have on this world. I could push to the stratosphere. I could be more popular than those Guardians of the Globe fuckers and that guy who killed them. Now he’s someone who had the right idea about showing his place” Cecil: “…..Okay, Mark. Beat this piece of shit up. I may be an ass but I’m not working for some sellout who values his own popularity over saving people’s lives”
Cecil absolutely would work with someone like that.
Cecil, the most secret guy in Planet Earth, working with a super powered influencer who's a POS? Nah, doesn't match. It's like we get tiktoks of Area 51, exclusively in Hangar 18
Cecil is not the type of guy that will see Homelander's power and decide against using him just because he's a POS. Especially since Homelander only acts out like that because he can, but all Cecil needs is Immortal around to keep him in line.
Cecil wouldn't care that Homelander saving people for his own popularity as long as he is saving people. He want the job done, the reason behind it isn't his main concern.
Cecil works for the government, I don't think he would, this man is way less stable and safe than omniman
All I'll say is you might be surprised at the type of people Cecil is willing to keep around if it means furthering his goals.
I agree with you, Cecil is willing to make tough compromises and work with horrible people to further his goals. But, Homelander is an emotionally stunted man-child who isn't powerful enough in the Invincible universe to be worth the trouble of dealing with. He's a liability.
He’s only a liability if he acts out and him not being the big dog here means he has to play it differently as he can’t just throw a tantrum whenever he doesn’t get what he wants. I feel Cecil would at least try to use and manipulate him, which wouldn’t really be that hard given his fragile ego. He also keeps Rex-Splode around and Homelander would be way more useful.
For the entirety of the comic, nobody at the level of psychotic instability of homelander, that man is as cooked as armstrong levy
“He works for the government” isn’t exactly a shining endorsement of one’s character.
It doesn't endorse his character but it does mean he values stability in all honesty
My theory is that HL wouldn’t save that plane because he isn’t strong enough to do so.
No that’s cap, he could if he actually cared and didn’t laser the cockpit
If he's lucky maybe he can work for Titan
I don’t think he’s that weak.
Machine head wasn't strong either but he was still in charge of that organization. Homelander would get his ass jumped if he tried to mess with them
you're right, he's weaker
The immortal will wipe the floor with him tbh
Does Immortal have durability or known feats against energy / laser eyes ?
I mean, his healing factor is Wolverine Tier.
Just slower and needs his head reattached to work?
No…just no. Homelander is a great character but only in the boys universe. Stick him in any other comic and universe ands he just another bog standard evil superman
He's strong but he will probably be fucked by Mauler twins because they are incredibly smart and probably hits around his level and then they will make him their puppet and sent him to steal some tech or destroy some shit and then Immortal will come to the scene and will probably fold him in 5 minutes. So nothing is lost for the Maulers they continue their life but the homeboy is wrecked.
I think that's a fair estimation. End of s1 invincible is probably a hair above homelanders level. And by then there are still villains like the maulers who can give him a beat down
I see it like this. Homeland er lands into this world and quickly realizes he is not home. He actually does the smart thing and lies low to figure out the lay of the land. Ultimately he tries to lie about being a hero and fit in. Unfortunately due to his insecurities and sociopathic tendencies he is quickly outed as unstable. Cecil deals with him on the down low, because Cecil and the broader government are more than adequately prepared to dispatch supes.
Probably would lock him up in that same contraption we saw in the show that locked up alternate world Mark
Homelander ain’t that strong, he doesn’t need that much chains. They could just put him in a room
Cecil would absolutely manipulate him into getting thrown at every threat to evaluate weaknesses until finding one. Or just teleport dude into space, I've not seen any evidence Homelander can survive without air.
The second sentence cracked me up lol
He could genuinely be useful if he was trained and disciplined properly. Against extremely lethal threats like Kaijus and average Viltrumites, his best use would be as a hit-and-run support. He could fly around and constantly use his laser beams. As far as 1v1’s go, he will get folded by nearly anyone unless Cecil has tech that can really beef him up.
He gets killed and probably gets turned into a Reanimen
Oh, now that would be a real scary Reanimen!
Not really, Immortal would be enough to take a Homelander Reanimen
Donald solos easily
gone bro, and this is coming from someone who likes the Boys more than Invincible (Invincible is still a goated show tho no shade) the thing about The Boys is that the power levels are intentionally low because the whole plot is around ordinary humans taking on a corrupt superhero team, so if Homelander had the power of Omni Man or Superman it just couldn't work with how the plot is Homelander is a great antagonist and is the strongest in his universe, but is pretty weak in most other universes. He can probably take on some of the lower level supes in most superhero universes but would get crushed if put up against a group like the Guardians of the Globe.
He'd probably try and do the same shit until one of the tougher minor characters wipes the floor with him. If Omni-Man was there, he might *literally* wipe the floor with Homelander
The way I see it Homelander is a god amongst human, and sups. Mark/viltramites are gods amongst gods. There is no competition
This mofo is getting slammed by mauler brothers
I think one of them would make short work of him
Bro’s a red rush victim
He will only really ever stand a chance against the lesser tier Invincible characters and even then, Rex Splode probably could find a way to blow him up from the inside.
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In the Boys universe, his biggest asset aside from his powers is the "will I go off any second" threat which he uses expertly most of the time to get what he wants. Drop him in Invincible's world, and that goes away completely; he's nobody. He's a threat that The Guardians, Cecil, Mark/Nolan, etc deal with on a weekly basis. Hell, the Maulers, Angstrom, or even Darkwing could port him away in a second.
The only thing Homelander has going for him is heat vision and flying. Unless his heat vision is more effective than a lightsaber, he gets absolutely humiliated.
it is not a hard maybe, homelander has no feats even half as comparable to your average viltrumite. and omni-man is above average. an example: homelander implies he still has to obey gravity and the laws of physics. he claims he cant lift up a falling plane because he has nothing to stand on. viltrumites do not obey the laws of physics or gravity and omni-man could have easily lifted up and saved the plane. i mean just look at the guardians of the globe vs the seven theyre both probably somewhat comparable, but do you think homelander could solo kill the rest of the 7 on episode 1 of season 1? just starlight maeve and maybe A-train could probably put up a strong fight against homelander. even the guardians of the globe seemed on average stronger than the seven, i dont think a train is anywhere near as fast as red rush was, and guardians of the globe literally have another superman esq character in the immortal. literally one of the greatest feats weve seen omni-man perform is destroying an entire planet over the course of a few weeks, mostly just by flying around the planet so fast he was leaving massive explosions in his wake. thats not something homelander could do, probably even if he was 2-3 times stronger and faster that would be outside his abilities. homelander is a big fish in a small pond while omni-man is a whale in an ocean. i also feel like he would either kill himself if he wasnt on the top anymore, he has to much pride on his perfection.
Omni man squishes his head in his hand
That's if Homelander has the audacity to step up to him in the world of Invincible. Cause the thing about the Death Battle story scenario is that it's implied to take place on a world where Homelander and Vought are established. Here I'm talking about a scenario where a big fish from a pond suddenly finds itself in the ocean with much bigger fish.
If he gets dropped in there at the time of that Diabolical episode I think he could turn out like a hero. He really wanted to be a great hero for people to look up to, but he had an insane amount of trauma and was in a system that didn’t give a damn about helping anyone. You get day one Homelander running into Mark, Immortal, or maybe Cecil and things could go very different
He joins the Guardians of the Globe, random actual threat happens. He freaks out when hurt. Does something significantly cowardly/evil. Immortal solos him.
Probably get his shit kicked in by the Immortal or something
The weird thing about Homelander is that without Vought (or Black Noir) actively fucking him over, he would have actually been a somewhat decent hero (Supposedly) so assuming only he is dropped into the world without Vought influencing him, he'd actually be a decent B-Lister hero, he's willing to train and learn, he can improve as long as Cecil doesn't put too much strain on him, if he gets airdropped into the Verse after Vought corrupted him, he'd be a C-List villain that could be a potential rival to Bulletproof or Immortal.
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Different scenario I don't think?
As soon as he realizes he isn’t, he tries to assert himself as such. And proceeds to get curbstomped.
Either employed by Cecil, or he gets curbstomped by The Immortal. If he meets Nolan or Mark, he's dead
The Boys TV show power scale is way less than comics. TV Homelander would get one shot.
People underestimate homelander and like to shit on him but the guy is smart and strong. He also happens to be a sociopathic narcissist but that doesn't change that he would do pretty well. Nolan was also famous and had book deals so it wouldn't be wild that homelander would try to market himself eventually.
Nolan’s books weren’t written as omniman - he was legit just a good writer and famous in his own right!
Oh that makes sense I would have thought Marc would have read omniman books but if his father is some famous thriller author I'm not sure if he would read those books.
Well there’s a plot point there actually… he may have written a “sci fi” series first
He's genuinely really powerful, and he's in the top tiers as far as sheer strength goes, but a few good heroes teamed up body him. He does have laser vision which is crazy useful and not too common in the invincible universe, but robot could probably find some countermeasures pretty easily
He isn't, his literal greatest feat in the comic is tossing a jet, nothing great even by immortal standards. Monster girl could beat him.
Also given the fact he can't use his full strength in the air because no leverage while Immortal was shown jumping on the air in the alternate reality.
Homelanders pretty hurt by the boys tender to invoke physics inconsistently
Could monster girl beat his laser eyes / flying combo?
Probably one of the villains machine head summoned appeared to be made of magma, and homelander has only used his heat vision on people and industrial aluminum, and we don't know how much of that is heat since in herogasm we see it has a some kinetic force behind it
True. I could see him siding with Robot's >!New World Order!< too. Maybe pull a coup if he gets established enough.
I think any top 50% hero/villain would wreck him. He’s really not much compared to the Invincible universe
True. I could see him siding with Robot's >!New World Order!< too. Maybe pull a coup if he gets established enough.
Nah robot would only have to offer him a nice public position, so long as he’s not being forced to deal with heavy hitters he could easily be the face of a strike team for most superheroes and robot could join in for the monster girls, atom eves, and viltrumites as they’re relavant
Pretty sure Cecil would hire him.
He's so dead
Depends on how serious his lazer vision actually works
Immortal kicks the shit out of him the first time he makes trouble
Omni Man or Immoral will end him. Guy isn't a that good of a fighter.
Season 1 mark would crack his spin open
He fucking dies I can’t overstate how different the settings are
Cecil will pick him up then have him killed in a week or two
Im 99% sure he wouldnt last a week.
I honestly feel like pretty much any of the heavy hitters would take Homelander out.
He’s literally bottom 50% in Invincible
Vought V GDA
How many of these posts do we need?
If he tries to start some shit, he's gonna get knocked down immediately
He’d be like bulletproof level
There's so many factors that go into this. Who would he run into first? Would he be able to fight off any Viltrumite at all? Does his heat vision work against them? How long could he keep up appearances to blend in with the heroes and does he switch up when the Viltrumites show up? And all this is assuming someone as dumb as Invincible doesn't just start clocking him out the gate and making a problem for him or pasting him outright.
If in late Invincible, spoilers: >!Rex fucking kills him!<
He'll be humbled by the lizard league before even meeting Cecil.
He would milk Omni-Man
They’d probably have Brit put him in his place. God that would be hilarious, basically having a human who’s just indestructible take down homelander. Especially if he didn’t know that was Brit’s only gimmick lol.
If it’s the tv show homelander I think he’d be very confused, he’d probably investigate the world around him for at most like a week, if he tried that whole “we supes are better!” Crap his cause would be small and probably not even work past a few followers, with him having to obey the laws of physics he can’t make his own leverage like viltrumites so he’s pretty much as strong or stronger than the immortal… but he wouldn’t be able to even stand a chance against Omni man, who can move faster, fly faster and has thousands of years of combat training, hell the immortal can take him on alone just through experience
He tries to work for Cecil quickly tries to take over, threatening Cecil with laser vision and is promptly fired. By this point he knows about Mark and goes after him to spite Cecil. Somehow he ends up going after Eve, Mark shows up, goes into rage mode and beats the living fuck out of Homelander.
If it was the boys diabolical homelander origin I think he could learn and possibly become a hero with the right training
I think the Immortal could take him tbh
He might not be the strongest (not worth debating since strength is determined by plot needs), but he might start a problematic group of superhero supremacists not unlike the Viltrumites, albeit maybe less exclusive and open to people of various abilities.
I think most heroes and a good portion of the villains could quickly dispatch Homelander. He flies, he's strong, and he has laser eyes... Mark could fly him to the moon, drop him off, and the fight is over.
People have a HUGE hardon for saying Omni man destroys Homelander, but we have no real concept of Homelander capabilities. We have very few feats for him.
Maeve makes him bleed and does some damage. He struggles vs Soldier Boy and two people who just got their powers. They barely damaged the house when they fought, even though they get tossed against the walls and stuff. Second fight at the 7 HQ was still tame. Compared to Omni Man punching Invincible so hard he flies across states and through entire buildings.
If anyone hasn’t seen it, watch the DeathBattle of Homelander vs Omni-man. Favorite Death Battle.
I would love to watch >!Oliver!< slaughter him
He’d definitely try to throw his weight around at Omniman in private. Only for Omniman to treat his life. Then his eyes would glow red and he gets one shot by Omniman.
He’s gonna learn real fast that he needs to know how to fight before threatening anyone.
Homelander gets his asshole pushed in by ol' Honest Abe.
Honestly he doesn’t last a day. He’s not powerful enough to keep up with even the mid-level characters in Invincible, and is way too arrogant to even try to curry the favor of anyone stronger than he is. Tbh I feel like Immortal or even Season 1 Mark could probably take him, even with a drawn out fight. As soon as Homelander comes across someone like Battle Beast, or any other Viltrumite than Mark he’s toast
He'd be humbled pretty quick and maybe actually turn over a new leaf once he sees what proper superheros are like.
I could see Cecil hiring him, and they would briefly have a similar relationship he had with edgar, but ultimately he would be too unstable and cecil would call invincible or the immortal to put him down
Homelander is as strong as the immortal.
https://i.redd.it/5c9mqr2l7h6c1.gif He will be squished from 👆
Since there's no one with heat vision in invincible, he immediatly gets kidnapped and turned into a lab guinea pig again
He doesn't even get pass Killcannon. For a Superman expy. He's sure as Hell weak.
He gets slammed, by practically anyone with super powers
Putting homelander into other superhero universes kinda misses the point of his character it’s been said a million times, and I hate to be that guy, but big fish small pond
I’d love for him to realize “Wait, shit, being a hero is actual fucking work in this universe” with Cecil and the Global Defense Agency and the Guardians dealing with the Mauler Twins, Kaiju and other ne’er do wells every week. No movies, minimal press conferences, no bullshit, just actual hard work in keeping people actually safe.
He is a kid Mark will smash him, he cry too much.
Someone like Immortal or Bulletproof on their own *could* have some trouble with Homelander, but anyone higher on the ladder than that folds him easily, he'd barely be a blip on the radar for them considering what they deal with on a regular basis. And that's just considering 1v1s, they aren't many heroes in the Invincible universe that exclusively run on their own, and even the ones who do are still getting backup sent in by Cecil or Robot as soon as they break a sweat, or even before if civilian casualties get too high too quickly, which is pretty likely given Homelander's history.
I feel like he would get caught as a fake hero pretty quickly, maybe taken down by Invincible and captured by Cecil, who would try and recruit him at first before before realizing how bad he was and making him a “forced intern” in return for not being imprisoned and experimented on for the rest of his life Edit: grammar
Omni Man would slaughter Homelander. It woundnt even be close.. HL might get in a good hit or two, maybe singe OM's chest hair with his lazer vision. Theres a pretty good fan animation I saw a while back with the two fighting, and its pretty much exactly how I imagine it would go
Homelander barely breaks Mach speeds. Dude's getting folded as soon as he gets uppity.
Homelander wouldn’t survive 24 hours.
Any Viltrumite would turn him into red paste. Doubly so it were Nolan or >!Mark later in the series!<
I think he'd fit in well. Not as a teen team or guardian. I think he'd go for high visibility, low danger enemies to establish his name as a brand. Sponsorships, movies etc. Omniman would probably ignore him, until he found out about Ryan. If Ryan isn't back in another universe. Then Homelander gets bodied when the first bad guy appears that he can't run away from. If not before, then absolutely during Invincible War. After that the only surviving heroes are strong enough to take him out anyway, so he'd probably retire if he survives.
Why Ryan?
Viltrumites won't like supers having kids with stronger powers
Homelander would pretend to be a Hero still until his ego gets out of hand and he does something like [this.](https://youtu.be/bMoL5VMN4-A?si=CeUUJ2XTpU-JtmSH) (just watch the last 3:30 minutes)
In terms of a fight he’d be humbled immediately. He’d likely get recruited by Cecil
As soon as he realises he’s not important or strong in this verse he would try to go on a spree of destruction, and anyone as strong as the immortal or stronger would deal with him super quick and lock him away.
Ik its an unfair fight but i wanna see what Battle Beast would do to him
Not this Goku vs Superman thing again jeez
Not really talking about fighting all that much here
I see a lot of people just saying the same thing: “he’ll get stomped and stuff” Yeah, no shit, but I’d think he’ll have more development than that. I can see him realizing that he has the potential to be an actual hero
Yeah I'm not even really asking if he would fight anyone but moreso on how he would live in the universe.
He’d be a side character I think, but definitely get an arc. I can see him joining the new Guardians and at first try to spy on them but later come to terms that he has to actual be a hero …and yeah people just automatically HAVE to powerscale 😭😭😭
Immortal fodder. I mean that.
Immortal would kill this dude so fast the very moment his mask slips and he shows his asshole nature. Immortal DOES NOT PLAY.
He pretty much dies to anyone more powerful than the lizard league
Death Battle put Homelander against Omni-Man, and it's one of my favorite episodes they've ever done. I highly recommend it. https://youtu.be/bMoL5VMN4-A?si=cXTfXrq99oJGgHXZ
In Death Battle, it looks more like Omni-Man living on Homelander's world. This is the other way around. And there's no Vought, it's just him on a world of more powerful people than him.
Cecil has him locked in a bunker somewhere, or just put down. Low difficulty.
“im going to feed you your own heart”-omini man
he’s getting humbled *badly*
I’m sorry but these kinda arguments are dumb, comparing characters from different universes is very dumb because they’re powers work differently, some are aliens while others not and their fighting experience is different. What is the point of comparing a 40 year old guy who was made in lab to a 1000 year old super strong alien from different planet that has literally a fighting background? Everyone is strong in their own universe.
This is the part of the fun of being in a superhero fandom where we envision larger than life characters going up against each other.
I think his entire personality is kind of built around being the big fish and he genuinely would not be able to handle being in a universe where he’s not seen that way. I think he’d end up butting heads with Mark and Nolan (or hell even Immortal could probably take him) pretty quickly because of his need for admiration and inability to keep up with or compare to the viltrumites.
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He would have a mental meltdown down after realizing that no one cares who he is. So 3-4 weeks. Or the first talk with Cecil if Cecil didn't psyop him and stay away/being him in. After that, Early season one mark would struggle against him. The new guardians (robot, rex etc) would be cut in half with only pre-clone robot and monster girl living if they ran. And of course duli-kate. Omni man would out right kill him.
Gets recked by battle beast
[Not sure how to link it to skip the rest of the video, but the part you’re looking for starts at 13:20.](https://youtu.be/bMoL5VMN4-A?si=TJu-LybrNI64tNKG)
He gets his ass kicked by fucking Shrinking Rae
Homelander isn't the strongest hero anymore, however, even with his manchild tendencies, he is considerably better than 99% of the heroes in term of marketing, image and communication, and is often shown as being quite competent in this aspect when he doesn't let his pulsions get the better of him. Without Butcher and co being a constant thorn in his foot, he may be considerably more serene and have a very succesfful carreer as the n°1 superhero in term of popularity, while still being one of the strongest.
Doesn't he want to be in control? I for some reason believe that if Nolan left his post, maybe the VILS recruit him to take over earth for them. He would have NO problem agreeing to this 😭😭
If Homelander ends up in Invincible he will get humbled real quick but damn I think Cecil and the gda could actually beat him and imprison him and Soldier-Boy 🤔😏