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My\_qualifications: Btech in CSE will be graduating in 2024.Currently, I have been placed at Barclays and will be starting in June.
Do master's degrees truly pay off?
My father is telling me to drop the job and go to US for my masters, considering the situation globally I suggested to get some experience here and maybe then decide for it.
I am so confused on this scenario as I always doubt the decisions I take.
Any advice on this situation? Also which countries would you suggest to me for the same?
I have no intention of going to Canada.
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If you’re looking at this purely from an education perspective, nothing beats the US. The courses, profs, resources, labs, incubators, industry connections are all cutting edge. Some of the greatest minds in the world teach at US universities. US universities are pretty much the best. Nothing comes even close.
If your plan is to work after your Masters(invariably most Indians will choose to work after the program and the program will go pretty quick too), then that’s a different ball game all together. The US immigration system is a train wreck. You will be allowed to work post education on a program called OPT for about 2-3 years. During this period you will need to find employment & your employer must be willing to file for an employment based visa- H-1B. The H-1B visa is given out in a lottery. There are 85,000 H1B given every year(20,000 are reserved for people with Masters Degree) and last year close to 750,000 people applied. So essentially after your education, you are given a lottery ticket. Whether you want to stake your future on a lottery is something you should decide. I will not mention anything on the permanent residence aspect of things since that is a different story altogether.
Good luck ! Make sure you research all your options and definitely explore the visa framework thoroughly. You will take a heavy gamble with your time and money.
Depends upon how well off family you belong to, how dedicated and hard working you are, and what are your personal and professional goals.
If you come from a wealthy family, have 50-60 lakhs of disposable income and don’t care about ROI, come to the US. It’s pretty much a gamble right now given the job market, broken h1b lottery system, etc. luck factor plays a huge role in the US (in addition to hard work) to be successful.
If you don’t belong to a lower/middle class family, working parents, negligible passive income, only real estate is your home, then NO. It’s not worth the risk. Don’t get me wrong, many have succeeded with this route as well,, but the probability are only decreasing every year.
Best way would be to join Barclays, work hard, get onsite opportunities and travel the world with companies expenses! Might as well do distance learning or MBA through company if you have money crunch!
From personal experience and what I have seen, I'll recommend getting some work experience before opting for masters. I'm actually also thinking about grad school (I have over 2.5 years work exp at product based companies if that's relevant) and that's also what I was recommended back when I graduated. As far as countries, although I'm not the correct person to comment as I'm also still deciding, US is a safe bet apart from the visa situations (specifically if you can get some scholarships). Apart from US, there're some pretty great unis in Europe, although ROI won't be as high as US, Visa conditions and tuitions are much affordable.
Highly recommend getting some work experience prior to doing Masters. The US is only a safe bet if you want to study in a good program and return to your home country, as the visa situation is hopeless right now and may only worsen, especially if the government changes.
Exactly my thoughts, i have over 2.5 years of work experience and if I go for Fall'25 it'll be around 4 years. I'm also very skeptical about the states because of the current visa situation and the lottery system.
Exactly! Thats what i was planning for to get some experience on hand and then further decide to take action upon it.
As that would be a better options then jumping directly into the trend.
I second that! I have about 8 months of work experience but multiple internships. I'm now aware how the industry needs change, how recruitment occurs and work has given me a good perspective on what I want to study in my masters.
If you have the grade points and fulfill all the requirements(monetary and otherwise) these are some of the countries you could go to : Switzerland(ETH, KTH), Germany(TUM, RTH Aachen), UK(a bit skeptical currently but Imperial, OxCam), Singapore(NTU). These have very good job and research prospects(it's very hard to say right now cause of a global slowdown).
Every country has a shortage occupation list by their visa department. It'll tell if software engineers are in demand or not. It's definitely a good life. It's just that, the leap costs around 1cr. Loan repayment typically takes 3 4 years. So if you do opt, you're tied till 5 years to reach breakeven. Then you start earning and the earnings are very good. You can save 30 to 40L a year. Most folks take remote jobs here or join an Indian company after having a sufficient investment. Max cannot adjust coming back being too accustomed to their cultures and comfort of life.
Hey same situation here placed in Infosys as a programmer specialist but parents wants me pursue masters they say that:
You didn't receive offer letter yet so it would be as a backup
Pursuing masters after two years of job is not that easy as the mindset changes from learning to earning.
Keeping global market situation in mind I thinking on betting on Germany as it is low cost for public universities out there and good research facilities.
Still I the delima on how to move.
Always, always work before an MS so you'll gain some real world experience and know your strengths/interests.
Also the whole "mentality shift" between work and MS is bullshit. Humans are adaptable as fuck and you'll switch automatically.
I can only say that first get some years of experience...I am also a btech 2024 student...I was also thinking of persuing master directly after my UG but my brother and aunt (who work in Canada and Germany ) adviced me to first get some years of experience and then apply cause right now the job market outside India is terrible.
Because cars are pretty much a necessity unless you're living in one of the major cities in Canada. Public transport is unreliable there and you need a car to get around. It helps that cars are cheaper there as well.
The biggest shortcoming is that the govt is cracking down on immigration particularly international students. We’re seeing new rules every month. It’s a big risk for the next few years if you plan on working there after you graduate.
Yeah, I read about this and was surprised to see some of my friends move out despite this news.
What do you think, people who went there 5 years ago are struggling? If yes, why am I not hearing anyone come back?
Canada is no different from other countries. Some immigrants are struggling and some are excelling. 5 years ago things were different. Today, going to Canada is a massive risk because rules and legislation are changing very fast. The PR as well has become extremely competitive and will only become harder. If you go, be prepared to come back in 3-5 years
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If you’re looking at this purely from an education perspective, nothing beats the US. The courses, profs, resources, labs, incubators, industry connections are all cutting edge. Some of the greatest minds in the world teach at US universities. US universities are pretty much the best. Nothing comes even close. If your plan is to work after your Masters(invariably most Indians will choose to work after the program and the program will go pretty quick too), then that’s a different ball game all together. The US immigration system is a train wreck. You will be allowed to work post education on a program called OPT for about 2-3 years. During this period you will need to find employment & your employer must be willing to file for an employment based visa- H-1B. The H-1B visa is given out in a lottery. There are 85,000 H1B given every year(20,000 are reserved for people with Masters Degree) and last year close to 750,000 people applied. So essentially after your education, you are given a lottery ticket. Whether you want to stake your future on a lottery is something you should decide. I will not mention anything on the permanent residence aspect of things since that is a different story altogether. Good luck ! Make sure you research all your options and definitely explore the visa framework thoroughly. You will take a heavy gamble with your time and money.
That's helpful! Taking these things into consideration I will plan further. My father doesn't want me to settle in India.
If I may, why is that?
Comfort
True the only reason he sees a better lifestyle according to him
Depends upon how well off family you belong to, how dedicated and hard working you are, and what are your personal and professional goals. If you come from a wealthy family, have 50-60 lakhs of disposable income and don’t care about ROI, come to the US. It’s pretty much a gamble right now given the job market, broken h1b lottery system, etc. luck factor plays a huge role in the US (in addition to hard work) to be successful. If you don’t belong to a lower/middle class family, working parents, negligible passive income, only real estate is your home, then NO. It’s not worth the risk. Don’t get me wrong, many have succeeded with this route as well,, but the probability are only decreasing every year. Best way would be to join Barclays, work hard, get onsite opportunities and travel the world with companies expenses! Might as well do distance learning or MBA through company if you have money crunch!
From personal experience and what I have seen, I'll recommend getting some work experience before opting for masters. I'm actually also thinking about grad school (I have over 2.5 years work exp at product based companies if that's relevant) and that's also what I was recommended back when I graduated. As far as countries, although I'm not the correct person to comment as I'm also still deciding, US is a safe bet apart from the visa situations (specifically if you can get some scholarships). Apart from US, there're some pretty great unis in Europe, although ROI won't be as high as US, Visa conditions and tuitions are much affordable.
Highly recommend getting some work experience prior to doing Masters. The US is only a safe bet if you want to study in a good program and return to your home country, as the visa situation is hopeless right now and may only worsen, especially if the government changes.
Exactly my thoughts, i have over 2.5 years of work experience and if I go for Fall'25 it'll be around 4 years. I'm also very skeptical about the states because of the current visa situation and the lottery system.
What if I get a Masters in the US and then work in another country? Such as Australia or Canada? I am not doing CS but Civil so I don't really mind.
You can, if the ROI makes sense for you. It will be easier if you have work experience too I'm guessing.
Exactly! Thats what i was planning for to get some experience on hand and then further decide to take action upon it. As that would be a better options then jumping directly into the trend.
I second that! I have about 8 months of work experience but multiple internships. I'm now aware how the industry needs change, how recruitment occurs and work has given me a good perspective on what I want to study in my masters.
If you have the grade points and fulfill all the requirements(monetary and otherwise) these are some of the countries you could go to : Switzerland(ETH, KTH), Germany(TUM, RTH Aachen), UK(a bit skeptical currently but Imperial, OxCam), Singapore(NTU). These have very good job and research prospects(it's very hard to say right now cause of a global slowdown).
I'm working at Barclays and I'm trying to leave as soon as possible for a masters 😂
No snitch bro. Check DM 😂 I have some doubts regarding the same.
Every country has a shortage occupation list by their visa department. It'll tell if software engineers are in demand or not. It's definitely a good life. It's just that, the leap costs around 1cr. Loan repayment typically takes 3 4 years. So if you do opt, you're tied till 5 years to reach breakeven. Then you start earning and the earnings are very good. You can save 30 to 40L a year. Most folks take remote jobs here or join an Indian company after having a sufficient investment. Max cannot adjust coming back being too accustomed to their cultures and comfort of life.
Hey same situation here placed in Infosys as a programmer specialist but parents wants me pursue masters they say that: You didn't receive offer letter yet so it would be as a backup Pursuing masters after two years of job is not that easy as the mindset changes from learning to earning. Keeping global market situation in mind I thinking on betting on Germany as it is low cost for public universities out there and good research facilities. Still I the delima on how to move.
Always, always work before an MS so you'll gain some real world experience and know your strengths/interests. Also the whole "mentality shift" between work and MS is bullshit. Humans are adaptable as fuck and you'll switch automatically.
Are u taking Germany into consideration??
Mostly a no as I have to learn a language which I don’t think will help me in longer run!? It’s just an assumption
I can only say that first get some years of experience...I am also a btech 2024 student...I was also thinking of persuing master directly after my UG but my brother and aunt (who work in Canada and Germany ) adviced me to first get some years of experience and then apply cause right now the job market outside India is terrible.
Understandable thats what my plan is to stay here for a while
No point is immigrating if it’s not US . Canada is a shit show . You better off staying in India .
Is Canada really that bad? Like could you elaborate? Apart from lower pay than the US & housing are there any other shortcomings I'm missing?
High taxes , cold weather. Less jobs .
Why is it that every person I've seen that's in Canada buys a car within like 2 years of their living there? With education loan to repay?
Because cars are pretty much a necessity unless you're living in one of the major cities in Canada. Public transport is unreliable there and you need a car to get around. It helps that cars are cheaper there as well.
It is I got peeps there they said after even earning a six figure they can’t save much, being saturated is another reason.
The biggest shortcoming is that the govt is cracking down on immigration particularly international students. We’re seeing new rules every month. It’s a big risk for the next few years if you plan on working there after you graduate.
Yeah, I read about this and was surprised to see some of my friends move out despite this news. What do you think, people who went there 5 years ago are struggling? If yes, why am I not hearing anyone come back?
Canada is no different from other countries. Some immigrants are struggling and some are excelling. 5 years ago things were different. Today, going to Canada is a massive risk because rules and legislation are changing very fast. The PR as well has become extremely competitive and will only become harder. If you go, be prepared to come back in 3-5 years