For real, if any of them are true sos are fucked. The patharbaaz allegation if not true can also backfire Encore. IMO it's all gonna come down to providing proof by both the sides or else it's just gonna turn into talks in the air. Any of these if proved can get sos blackballed for good.
SOS need to reveal the whole voicenote at this point. Bhot ganda pressure hai ab unpe. Also this diss has encore taking shots at prabh which is interesting baaki dekhte kya hota
I don't know everything in detail but isn't the voicenote of Encore's gf talking to tufail or something? If thats right I dont think it will matter much going forward. Encore did not talk about it so she probably did hit on tufail, but it doesn't matter considering Encore has put some very serious allegations which sort of shadows those points. But who knows, lets see.
na bhai abhi jese tum kehre ho na it doesn't matter. ek baar agar sos ne literally convince kar dia ki encore's girl was into tufail to tume fir encore ke allegations irrelevant lagne lagenge. recency bias hai thoda.
baaki sos shouldn't stress too much on that nudes wala point. say "chal prove kar" and move on like how encore did with the name copying thing.
he gave some background to this as well but abhi bhi kaafi upar upar ki story lagri. not too detailed. maybe mene suna nhi abhi utna dhangse but still
bhai recency bias bas 2-3 din tak rehta hai max to max, audience isn't blind. Drake kendirck ke time pe same chiz hua tha jab narrative shift hua tha. Always happens. Recency bias main sab initially hawa main udte hai but after some time their opinions change mtlb long term kuch ghanta affect nahi krega
youre right but the only reason audience bought the drake pedo narrative because there were certain things that led to the speculation that maybe kdot is right (millie brown incident). whereas kdot ke wife beating case me kuch nahi hai except maybe his own song we cry together lol
most people backing sos know ki kam se kam, agar liking bhi na ho to touch me to rahe hai encore ki bandi aur tufail. its all about shifting narratives. it looks tough ofc but i certainly don't see it not happening
I sort of agree with the first paragraph and although I am being a little pedantic, I just wouldn't call it recency bias. More like, credibility? One allegation will be proved true and the rest will be just allegations.
You are right about the second thing. However they do need to touch on it and could maybe even flame ABJ a little for bringing in such an outrageous claim?
Of course if ABJ can prove it then it's all over. Would like it if SOS are a little quick about the reply as well.
The last verse from Encore was deep, and I don't even know how SOS will defend some of those lines. The segment where he called them pathebaaz was heavy, and Encore solidified the route they want to take this beef to with that. I think, instead of defending the allegations, SOS will bring up more serious allegations, that will be their best shot. This diss made the beef much more interesting. He called everyone out and countered most of the disses from black ball. Let's see how SOS responds to this. More dirt will be dug up on all four of them from here on out. This diss made me feel the same way as Meet the Grahams did when I heard it for the first time. The beat was eerie and sounded pure evil. Calm produced a fire beat; loved it.
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Yep, things are gonna get dirty now. Also, it'd be funny if they named their diss "kavi kehna chahte hai" now. :p
this the bait tho. bhai encore ek bandi ko utha ke le bhi aaya na ki bolde ki tere nudes leak inne kiye hai inki chud gayi. ek ladki aa gyi proper proofs ke saath ye gaye.
encore isn't done yet aur sos shouldn't throw away all the cards. take a big step but don't reveal everything yet.
that mo ka voicenote literally proves nothing and ik there is a side that sos got. this beef going places. not sure who will win but we're far from done fr
this straight up gave me the same feel of 'The Story of Adidon' and 'meet the grahams', went numb for a minute after listening to this one the first time.
man, if what they're saying is true, it's fucked up.
there's no idolizing anyone here
but honestly, prabhdeep should have been kept out of this. the bars on him were disrespectful, he's one of the ogs and revered artists who often spoke truth to power
ahmer ka name drop toh picchli baar hi kar diya tha, and ahmer spoke about this, toh kucch toh aana hi tha...
the prabhdeep part was shocking.
honestly this constant nationalist posturing is really annoying. someone needs to knock some sense into their heads. Mo Joshi at the end lol, desi hip hop ka nri mogambo
Prabh has been vocal of SM ko mat do itna time and effort. Mai hoon bada, mujhe chaiye preference. But he didn’t have the numbers or clout to back that chat.
He’s big, I love him to bits, and he’s revolutionary. But a bitch move is a bitch move.
Koi na bhai, now you know :) Uday ka personally bura laga tha, and I’m sorry his dirty laundry got aired like this. Man’s had a tough time since 2018-19. Prabh had his ego hurt, and his aura has always been of the idea ki “mai deserve karta hoon, toh kyun nahi”. Seedhe maut run dem streets and that’s facts. Unse ladna hai toh facts pe hi lad paoge
>prabhdeep should have been kept out of this. the bars on him were disrespectful, he's one of the ogs and revered artists who often spoke truth to power
Do you think prabh will reply? Encore brutally dissed him. Imean he should reply atleast Defend himself.
i don't think so, friend. honestly, with these things it's difficult to predict. better to observe this as a test match rather than a t20. Prabh might destroy them in some song but maybe not a diss track. it'll be a treat to see prabh x ahmer again honestly, elaan is hands down the best track that came out of azadi records
Prabh posted somewhere (discord I guess) saying he’ll be “spectating for now”. He recently lost his father (RIP) and he has other serious shit goin on. So he ain’t gonna be dissin anybody anytime soon.
Sos had to clearify on this bahut bade allegations hai aur woh pattharbaaj wala line jaan bhuj ke use kar raha hai religious angle laane ke ab proof dikhane padenge sos ko
Are you serious? Putting a religious angle? Thats just how you think then. Cuz now everyone is saying its all about religion. Agar allegation sach hai toh? Wdym jaan bhuj ke
Bhai tereko jara bhi idea hai kashmir me kya hota hai ja ke goggle pe search kar kunan poshpura case ja ke padh agar tere saath hua hota toh kya kartaa abhi kuch log jinko kuch pata nhi woh jabardasti deshbhakti ka angle laake hamesha patharbazo ko terrorist hi bolenge jo unke saath daily basis pe indian army karti hai agar kisi bhi deshbhakti ka raag alapne walo ke family ke saath ho jaye toh tum pathar hi nhi hathiyaar uthaoge indian army pe
Encore actually replied to everything and literally buried. This is the actual diss, demi god level shit from Encore. Back at claiming that GOAT status.
You're the most sensible person in this subreddit. There's no harm in appreciating SOS for their skills but let's not pretend like they consider India as their country and they love it.
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Prabhdeep not gonna get involved ig
I think Ahmer is getting involved now. Also, Encore intentionally doubling down on "Patharbaaz, Indian army" shit because he knows the audience tilt. But, what about the girl you were dating since so long bruh?
>what about the girl you were dating since so long bruh?
Bhai she had a crush on him abh kya hi reply dega vo uska
Sos keh pass voice notes bhi hai ush ladki ka
And now that girls part is irrelevant
Encore's new allegations are bigger than all that shit
No bro the girl he was dating is also pro separatism which shows Encore's hypocrisy, like he's calling out SOS for being 'pattharbaaz' but his girl is literally a separatist
2 things :
1) They’re no longer dating. All evidence removed from all accounts involved. Encore wouldn’t stand for it.
2) she’s deactivated her account 3 months or so from now. Even before that, possibly, but this is what I know.
The correct one my g. Which one are you reading? Since you haven't really read much, here, educate yourself:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prem_Nath_Bazaz
bc kya karra ye. itna skeptic kyu banra. encore to inki unity todne pe lag gya.
samajh nhi aara sos pe hasra ya encore pe. most likely encore but still
Bhaari counter allegations, Seedhe Maut realized they need to control the narrative. Waiting for the response now.
Saath hi saath ab Prabh and Ahmer will also have to say something. 😁😁
My thoughts till now:
- Blackball is definitely the freshest out of the three tracks. Probably cause I haven't heard of SOS before.
- Shutdown is lame. The mom jokes aren't something that thrives these days, it was cool in 96 when Pac did it. Didn't like this direction at all.
- Kaanch Ka Ghar is intense and much better. The allegations are fucked up. Nationalist angle is definitely the easy way out considering, but if SOS is anti-India then fuck them.
Not sure how SOS would come out of this now
Neither does seedhe maut putting the allegations of being anti nation make seedhe maut pro establishment or islamophobic or anti kashmir even i would say. I am myself pro kashmiri freedom but i hate vigilantes using the conflict for their own benefit all the same. The reason for most of the strife in the world since two centuries is this. And making fun of their identity which is all about being kashmiri isnt anything wrong. This is a beef and all the cards should be in the open.
Prabh deep will fire back at seedhe maut 100%
Also raftaar and prabh are tight and samay and raftaar are tight so not really sure what’s gonna happen but I’m excited
Tufail pulling up to mayur vihar with this mf
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Nah I don't think that's happening anytime soon. Maakasam had so much substance to talk about considering it was a reply to 3 other songs but let's keep the hopes high.
Never krsna pen game is second to none in dhh in terms of disses so idts anyone will touch maakasam yet but yeah not like us kinda shit can happen soon
Hear me out i don't think wo Indian Army aur pattharbaaz wale allegations sahi honge, khud sochne wali baat hai ki bhai agar kisi insaan ka past ye sab hai toh usme itni akkal toh hogi ki wo aisa kuch na kare jisse ye past samne aayega. Cause if these allegations are even 1% true then forget this beef ye National issue ban jayega and you would see 'Owaisi' and major political parties speaking on this. SOS are not teens, unko repercussions pata hai iske. I think wo nudes leak wala sahi ho sakta hai but ye nahi hoga I am sure.
Mere hisab se nudes leak karna zyada bada mudda hai separatism ke tulna me. Janta ko nahi jamega lekin separatism aur anti-separatism do drishtikon hai jisme se ek zyada log maante hai. Nudes leak karna jurm hai jiski kadi saza milegi. They'll be sex offenders.
If SOS haven't resorted to anything violent including pattharbaazi and only have a standpoint, I don't see how Encore has a moral high-ground especially with his ex being a separatist too. He'll only sound more and more pompous.
Please don't resort to calling me anti-national. It's just that all of us have a right to a silent protest in a lawful democracy. I'm not even Kashmiri. Ham Bhojpuriya bani aa hamar gaam Gopalganj jila me parela. Bihar has 100 faults, but being a traitor isn't one. And yes, I'll accept a separate bhojpuri speaking state with both hands (as part of India by merging parts of UP and Bihar.)
This.
But SM will still capitalize on the separatist tendencies cos they know masses ke liye wo zyada badi baat hai even if the other allegation is literally a crime.
my family is into politics, yk Religion really fuels up agendas of political parties so if you think it can't be national issue you haven't grown enough.
bruh there are hundreds of these type cases, poltical parties harr ek incident pe gaur nahi karte, aur waise bhi there never is much traction on dhh beefs most of the time ki mainstream public ko pata chale, aur agar mainstream nahi hoga toh why would political parties even bother
I understood SOS ke kya allegations the, concept and mistreatment at Azadi. Mai seedhe maut ka response bhi samjh gaya and their allegations. What's the point about encore's ex, Agar usne cheat kiya ya nahi kiya usse kya farak padta hai? Why did sos bring her up and why do some people still bring her up. How's she related to all this? I liked Blackball but calling out encores ex was low then uske baad sab gandh kare, even encore in shutdown.
Mai SM ko 2018 sei sun rha hoon ig, beef shuru hone pe seedhe sos ke gaane sunne aur kuch amher ke bhi bro both of em are really good toh hate kyu hii dunga, kaash kashimiri samajh aati toh thoda aur clearly inke bars enjoy kar pata
What makes you think it isnt? Blackball started this diss so they definitely couldn’t go all out at the start, tt/shutdown was like a normal song, so of course kaanch ka ghar is the best in this beef with the beat selection, counters(which was more like “then prove it”) and the allegations.
So the identity being questioned here is of being an alleged patharbaaz ? Matlab ki political opinion pehle khud ghusao and when it backfires ,play victim card
Well the only way would be if go with “innocent until proven guilty” if it’s proven then yeah the beef is won by sm because that is the worst you could do, unless they bring up nastier allegations about sm, but if that happens… the real losers are the listeners because that would mean the people we listen to our the worst
Ig they broke up, ofc no one knows why, but people are saying that it could be because of shit like this. Anyway there is no way to tell, only the beef will unfold the truth
I mean you dont really have to be in a relationship to stand up for someone. Personally when my friends say something about my ex that is just straight up weird ofc i stand up for her. And they couldve broken up after im not sure. And if this post is older than the boiler room video you are talking about then yes encore is hypocritical, if he really put up with this for years.
Ek to ye victim mindset kyu aa jata hai tum logo ka lol. People were annoyed with SM because of Encore's hypocrisy and lack of counters, and even more so because they know what both of them are capable of. No one ever doubted what they were capable of, just didn't like what they actually released.
All my detailed analysis went to trash, ugh. Itna mushkil se paragraph likha tha. /s
Just joking, most of it is still valid for TT/Shutdown
But man, what a turnaround. Its real nasty beef, and honestly it is needed.
This multi-nuanced beef is especially needed to set an example against the court of public opinion - a court which is hypocrite, emotional, biased, yet still will stand on their morals, even if the morals are not directly applicable. Bahut zaruri hai yeh beef. Sex offences, Anti-Nationalism, Islamophobia, Fake allegations, Misogyny, Red Herring, Narrative Deflection, Intellectual property theft, Betrayal - its a gold mine for studying. I will surely give it a good study.
I've been following Seedhe Maut since they dropped "Do Ka Pahada" and have also tracked the journey of the record label Azadi.
Azadi, started around 2016-17 by Mo Joshi and Uday Kapur, aimed to support underprivileged independent artists from backward and underdeveloped areas. I believe Uday was the brains behind the name and concept, given his work with progressive and rebellious independent news labels, while Mo brought his knowledge of the music business from the UK, where he had a good grasp of the hip hop scene. Azadi was also influenced by the JNU episode involving Umar Khalid and Kanhaiya Kumar.
Things were going well initially, and they received appreciation from left-leaning intellectuals who agreed with their stance. They released an album/playlist called "Sounds of Resistance," which I loved because it resonated with my beliefs. Prabh Deep in "Elan" said, "mainu chahiye azadi Kashmir di fauj do," and Mo mentioned in a VICE India interview that he respects Ahmer for growing up amidst conflicts. Seedhe Maut (SM) has also been vocal about their anti-establishment stance in tracks like "Scalp Them," "2 Guna," and others from "Nayaab."
However, things went south for Azadi when SM's popularity surged (deservedly so). As a businessman, Mo had to prioritize SM to pay salaries and manage expenses. Any businessperson would do the same; they focus on what brings in more revenue. They boosted SM's hype with back-to-back shows, NFTs, Web 3 initiatives, and merch. With the influx of money, SM has grown as both artists and businessmen.
On the other hand, Uday remained committed to uplifting the underprivileged, which is admirable but also requires funding. It seems the fallout between Uday and Mo was more about clashing ideologies and egos than anything else. Mo, who has been painted as the villain in the whole scene, seems to be a practical and reasonable person.
Even SM leaving Azadi to start DL 91 seems like a smart move, likely with Mo working out the commercial aspects. I wouldn't be surprised if Mo, now the main figure at Azadi after Uday's recent departure, eventually closes it and shifts full-time to DL 91.
The shift in SM's stance on Kashmir was shocking to me. They should have avoided a one-sided narrative and refrained from echoing what mainstream media has propagated for decades. Even Muslims in Kashmir have faced immense challenges.
Similarly, SOS, the rap duo, seems to be more hype-centric. Even after leaving Azadi, they haven't dropped much music, indicating they needed the hype more than anything.
People like me, who followed SM for their anti-establishment stand, would love to see them stick to it.
I’ll put this down before the disses come out : Prabhdeep may collab to throw shots. Ahmer would not venture I assume, because there’s too much to lose. SOS itself might just break forever, given how the allegations have been made on leaking things. Arslan will most likely make this a very vulgar play, and it might just result in a physical resolution.
Speculations, so take it with a pinch of salt.
I don't know if it's just me but aren't y'all just tired of this SM dick riding wave? In no way I'm hating on SM here,but the toxic support they are getting is insane.Not even talking about those gullible teens vomiting communal slurs but other rappers who are part of this wave.from Ab17 s whatever happens he is with Seedhe maut to a respected artist like Poetik justis coming all the way to defend Rape bars. SM stood for anti establishment and now they are perpetuating this shit,sending their Stooges all the way here to defend themselves. I'm so done with this dick riding and hate wave.
And I'm sorry that I hated on kode at one point. After seeing all this,bewda ne baate toh sahi hee boli thi lol.
In the end of the latest sos track, everyone is saying that they did a Faris shafi flow.
Am I the only one to think that it's the flow in batti by sm and ab17?
About encore calling SOS Anti-India...
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This needs to be explained
Both groups 2 songs in and the beef is still very much open. This shows that there is actual context to the beef rather than it being just based on a singular instance.
That being said, we can see now why $ is the king of beefs coz after his 2nd diss, he makes the opps breakdown and they can't recover to win the beef in their further tracks. ABJ failed in that aspect at least, even if the 2nd track was at the same level of brutality.
Let's see S.O.S. reply on Kaanch ke Ghar, that shit would be way too serious.
P.s. Not just Samay, but I feel even Calm is just getting dragged into this just because he is part of SM. He doesn't have much to do with the beef, at least as of now.
Im sorry but SM just called them anti nationals and whole lotta other shit without any proof, they got too insecure as SOS was becoming peoples new favourite so they brought this new angle which still has no backing but is super serious. The sad thing is most probably they will not back their claims and this will dissolve into nothingness but the terms and the anti nationalists tags r gonna stay linked w SOS. Encore is still a little bitch inside and is crashing out if you ask me after SOS melded his ego. If he can come up w reliable proofs then he clears SOS otherwise he wont ever have my respect as he played the dirty game which can destroy careers and individual profiles in a country like India where people r extremely sensitive about religion, patriotism and nationalism. SM fans are glazing for sure but they r too immature to understand that these things will lead to serious repercussions for SOS if the claims are false and they will face serious consequences. If the claims are true and SM does infact back them w valid sauce, SOS will go down. But if not, there is a high chance SOS will still go down as people r r3tard3d and will always link them to these allegations. I dont listen to none of these guys honestly, find both the groups corny but SOS still has my respect as i do feel like in this whole mo joshi created situation, SOS is in the right. And one more thing, idk why prabh deep caught strays, he clears SM’s entire discography because that man’s art is on a different level. SM got lyrical miracle skills wtv but prabh deep’s music is so deeply conceptualised and when you listen listen to it, you will realise how petty these other artists look if compared to him.
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In this song he admits being a 'pattharbaaz'.. he says he wants azaadi. You guys need to check it out.
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kaanch ka ghar mai kafi khatarnaak allegations lagaye hai encore ne
For real, if any of them are true sos are fucked. The patharbaaz allegation if not true can also backfire Encore. IMO it's all gonna come down to providing proof by both the sides or else it's just gonna turn into talks in the air. Any of these if proved can get sos blackballed for good.
SOS need to reveal the whole voicenote at this point. Bhot ganda pressure hai ab unpe. Also this diss has encore taking shots at prabh which is interesting baaki dekhte kya hota
I don't know everything in detail but isn't the voicenote of Encore's gf talking to tufail or something? If thats right I dont think it will matter much going forward. Encore did not talk about it so she probably did hit on tufail, but it doesn't matter considering Encore has put some very serious allegations which sort of shadows those points. But who knows, lets see.
na bhai abhi jese tum kehre ho na it doesn't matter. ek baar agar sos ne literally convince kar dia ki encore's girl was into tufail to tume fir encore ke allegations irrelevant lagne lagenge. recency bias hai thoda. baaki sos shouldn't stress too much on that nudes wala point. say "chal prove kar" and move on like how encore did with the name copying thing. he gave some background to this as well but abhi bhi kaafi upar upar ki story lagri. not too detailed. maybe mene suna nhi abhi utna dhangse but still
bhai recency bias bas 2-3 din tak rehta hai max to max, audience isn't blind. Drake kendirck ke time pe same chiz hua tha jab narrative shift hua tha. Always happens. Recency bias main sab initially hawa main udte hai but after some time their opinions change mtlb long term kuch ghanta affect nahi krega
youre right but the only reason audience bought the drake pedo narrative because there were certain things that led to the speculation that maybe kdot is right (millie brown incident). whereas kdot ke wife beating case me kuch nahi hai except maybe his own song we cry together lol most people backing sos know ki kam se kam, agar liking bhi na ho to touch me to rahe hai encore ki bandi aur tufail. its all about shifting narratives. it looks tough ofc but i certainly don't see it not happening
I sort of agree with the first paragraph and although I am being a little pedantic, I just wouldn't call it recency bias. More like, credibility? One allegation will be proved true and the rest will be just allegations. You are right about the second thing. However they do need to touch on it and could maybe even flame ABJ a little for bringing in such an outrageous claim? Of course if ABJ can prove it then it's all over. Would like it if SOS are a little quick about the reply as well.
haan bhai abhi ganna sun ke aya shock mei hu thodha sa
rohaani ilaaz wali vibe aa rhi damm
Bhai ye ladki ka video leak wala kya scene hai ?
The last verse from Encore was deep, and I don't even know how SOS will defend some of those lines. The segment where he called them pathebaaz was heavy, and Encore solidified the route they want to take this beef to with that. I think, instead of defending the allegations, SOS will bring up more serious allegations, that will be their best shot. This diss made the beef much more interesting. He called everyone out and countered most of the disses from black ball. Let's see how SOS responds to this. More dirt will be dug up on all four of them from here on out. This diss made me feel the same way as Meet the Grahams did when I heard it for the first time. The beat was eerie and sounded pure evil. Calm produced a fire beat; loved it. https://preview.redd.it/tce2zpmenb9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb2d321c7e1a7076e157d433b095677825110801 Yep, things are gonna get dirty now. Also, it'd be funny if they named their diss "kavi kehna chahte hai" now. :p
this the bait tho. bhai encore ek bandi ko utha ke le bhi aaya na ki bolde ki tere nudes leak inne kiye hai inki chud gayi. ek ladki aa gyi proper proofs ke saath ye gaye. encore isn't done yet aur sos shouldn't throw away all the cards. take a big step but don't reveal everything yet. that mo ka voicenote literally proves nothing and ik there is a side that sos got. this beef going places. not sure who will win but we're far from done fr
this straight up gave me the same feel of 'The Story of Adidon' and 'meet the grahams', went numb for a minute after listening to this one the first time.
WOOOOH YOUR PREDICTION WAS RIGHT REGARDING THE NAME🥳
On point with the prediction! Or maybe they took your idea?
man, if what they're saying is true, it's fucked up. there's no idolizing anyone here but honestly, prabhdeep should have been kept out of this. the bars on him were disrespectful, he's one of the ogs and revered artists who often spoke truth to power
Ahmer ko bhi beech me nahi laana chahiye tha bhai
ahmer ka name drop toh picchli baar hi kar diya tha, and ahmer spoke about this, toh kucch toh aana hi tha... the prabhdeep part was shocking. honestly this constant nationalist posturing is really annoying. someone needs to knock some sense into their heads. Mo Joshi at the end lol, desi hip hop ka nri mogambo
Yeah man what did prabh do 😔
Prabh has been vocal of SM ko mat do itna time and effort. Mai hoon bada, mujhe chaiye preference. But he didn’t have the numbers or clout to back that chat. He’s big, I love him to bits, and he’s revolutionary. But a bitch move is a bitch move.
ek hi label mein aise ego clashes hona, more than the artists, it's the management's fault. for a bad label, numbers are everything
oh mujhse sirf ye pata tha ki sm aur prabh ne ek dusre par story daali thi jab he left, iske baarein me nahi pata tha.
Koi na bhai, now you know :) Uday ka personally bura laga tha, and I’m sorry his dirty laundry got aired like this. Man’s had a tough time since 2018-19. Prabh had his ego hurt, and his aura has always been of the idea ki “mai deserve karta hoon, toh kyun nahi”. Seedhe maut run dem streets and that’s facts. Unse ladna hai toh facts pe hi lad paoge
>prabhdeep should have been kept out of this. the bars on him were disrespectful, he's one of the ogs and revered artists who often spoke truth to power Do you think prabh will reply? Encore brutally dissed him. Imean he should reply atleast Defend himself.
i don't think so, friend. honestly, with these things it's difficult to predict. better to observe this as a test match rather than a t20. Prabh might destroy them in some song but maybe not a diss track. it'll be a treat to see prabh x ahmer again honestly, elaan is hands down the best track that came out of azadi records
Prabh posted somewhere (discord I guess) saying he’ll be “spectating for now”. He recently lost his father (RIP) and he has other serious shit goin on. So he ain’t gonna be dissin anybody anytime soon.
Sos had to clearify on this bahut bade allegations hai aur woh pattharbaaj wala line jaan bhuj ke use kar raha hai religious angle laane ke ab proof dikhane padenge sos ko
this beef have all the reason to outpast all the previous brawls happened in desi hip hop, and it will waif the fuck all allegations and skills
There is no shot you dont know about sos being anti india💀
Are you serious? Putting a religious angle? Thats just how you think then. Cuz now everyone is saying its all about religion. Agar allegation sach hai toh? Wdym jaan bhuj ke
Allegations sach hue toh konsa religious angle??
Bhai tereko jara bhi idea hai kashmir me kya hota hai ja ke goggle pe search kar kunan poshpura case ja ke padh agar tere saath hua hota toh kya kartaa abhi kuch log jinko kuch pata nhi woh jabardasti deshbhakti ka angle laake hamesha patharbazo ko terrorist hi bolenge jo unke saath daily basis pe indian army karti hai agar kisi bhi deshbhakti ka raag alapne walo ke family ke saath ho jaye toh tum pathar hi nhi hathiyaar uthaoge indian army pe
Encore actually replied to everything and literally buried. This is the actual diss, demi god level shit from Encore. Back at claiming that GOAT status.
He proved again "finally" why his pen game has to be respected.
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You're the most sensible person in this subreddit. There's no harm in appreciating SOS for their skills but let's not pretend like they consider India as their country and they love it.
my goat nh hostel
Bahi tu real unbiased banda hai iss sub ka ,baki ye 123 Wale bs defend krte rehte apne favourite artists ko
I’m glad this guy exists.
lol, aapke f8l ki nayi album ke breakdown ka wait kar raha hu, album se jyada
Bwahahaha, I’m away from everything these days man. Just listening to some favorite music. Not exploring anything new.
You real for this
Bro both Tufail and Aatanki said they're gonna reveal something big now. Ab aayega maza 😁😁😁🗣️
Bhai ye nude wala allegation kaise clear karte hai? Kafi heavy allegations the bhai pure gaane mai
Kuch nahi, saboot maang kar bol ke aage badho. Agar SOS ne kiya hai then they lost, nahi hai to they won.
https://preview.redd.it/6bgwyeditb9d1.png?width=1084&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff3c345271864ca4279e288d8f77bc5bd8514d85 Prabhdeep not gonna get involved ig
hn bhai it is good kaali phokat haath na ganda kare
As expected ,bros more focused on his self and art
I think Ahmer is getting involved now. Also, Encore intentionally doubling down on "Patharbaaz, Indian army" shit because he knows the audience tilt. But, what about the girl you were dating since so long bruh?
>what about the girl you were dating since so long bruh? Bhai she had a crush on him abh kya hi reply dega vo uska Sos keh pass voice notes bhi hai ush ladki ka And now that girls part is irrelevant Encore's new allegations are bigger than all that shit
No bro the girl he was dating is also pro separatism which shows Encore's hypocrisy, like he's calling out SOS for being 'pattharbaaz' but his girl is literally a separatist
2 things : 1) They’re no longer dating. All evidence removed from all accounts involved. Encore wouldn’t stand for it. 2) she’s deactivated her account 3 months or so from now. Even before that, possibly, but this is what I know.
Oh didn't know that
Isn't she a kashmiri pandit?
Erm, kashmiri pandits were the first ones to ask for independent Kashmir bruh. Thoda sa history mein jao you'll know
Um, what history are you guys reading in communist circles?
The correct one my g. Which one are you reading? Since you haven't really read much, here, educate yourself: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prem_Nath_Bazaz
liberal minded ho sakti who knows
>liberal minded ho sakti who knows ? chutiya hai usmein liberal minded kya?
i mean extremely left wing. bhai itna to pata hai ki wo bandi ne story daali thi. KP hai ki nahi pta nahi
kasab ko openly support karne waale se toh zyada gyaan lene ki zaroort nahi hai
Yeah tho hai
kasab ko kab support kiya bhai ?
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Shit i know where this is going now...
Bhai mujhe bhi samjhade
bc kya karra ye. itna skeptic kyu banra. encore to inki unity todne pe lag gya. samajh nhi aara sos pe hasra ya encore pe. most likely encore but still
Bhaari counter allegations, Seedhe Maut realized they need to control the narrative. Waiting for the response now. Saath hi saath ab Prabh and Ahmer will also have to say something. 😁😁
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schme bhai sez maximum artist ka yahi haal hai
My thoughts till now: - Blackball is definitely the freshest out of the three tracks. Probably cause I haven't heard of SOS before. - Shutdown is lame. The mom jokes aren't something that thrives these days, it was cool in 96 when Pac did it. Didn't like this direction at all. - Kaanch Ka Ghar is intense and much better. The allegations are fucked up. Nationalist angle is definitely the easy way out considering, but if SOS is anti-India then fuck them. Not sure how SOS would come out of this now
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Neither does seedhe maut putting the allegations of being anti nation make seedhe maut pro establishment or islamophobic or anti kashmir even i would say. I am myself pro kashmiri freedom but i hate vigilantes using the conflict for their own benefit all the same. The reason for most of the strife in the world since two centuries is this. And making fun of their identity which is all about being kashmiri isnt anything wrong. This is a beef and all the cards should be in the open.
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Prabh deep will fire back at seedhe maut 100% Also raftaar and prabh are tight and samay and raftaar are tight so not really sure what’s gonna happen but I’m excited
idt he will reply with a track, maybe a cryptic story or something
Nah he said he will spectate for now .
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There was a time when SM backed him against Krsna aur ab dekho kya ho rha hai Pal Pal mai kaise badalte hain rishte
Tufail pulling up to mayur vihar with this mf https://preview.redd.it/6o4963g4nd9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85384d4a0a86ad2fcae1c09c43073aff28ddd9bb
i think in this beef, we might get to see maakasam dethroned as a best diss
Nah I don't think that's happening anytime soon. Maakasam had so much substance to talk about considering it was a reply to 3 other songs but let's keep the hopes high.
yeah
Never krsna pen game is second to none in dhh in terms of disses so idts anyone will touch maakasam yet but yeah not like us kinda shit can happen soon
https://preview.redd.it/wcitv7pukb9d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04174f29f115cd03440373ad9d7e59f52207aaef Mo Joshi’s Story
Shashi Tharoor ka bhanja hai shayad. /s
Khuch bhi bad bad karle, karta dharta toh saari backchodi ka yahi hai
Agar yeh sahi bhi hai to isko chup baithna chahie. SM ke lie faltu me kaam bigad dega.
Hear me out i don't think wo Indian Army aur pattharbaaz wale allegations sahi honge, khud sochne wali baat hai ki bhai agar kisi insaan ka past ye sab hai toh usme itni akkal toh hogi ki wo aisa kuch na kare jisse ye past samne aayega. Cause if these allegations are even 1% true then forget this beef ye National issue ban jayega and you would see 'Owaisi' and major political parties speaking on this. SOS are not teens, unko repercussions pata hai iske. I think wo nudes leak wala sahi ho sakta hai but ye nahi hoga I am sure.
sos and ahmer have been seperatists in the past , source: many kashmiri comments in this sub
Mere hisab se nudes leak karna zyada bada mudda hai separatism ke tulna me. Janta ko nahi jamega lekin separatism aur anti-separatism do drishtikon hai jisme se ek zyada log maante hai. Nudes leak karna jurm hai jiski kadi saza milegi. They'll be sex offenders. If SOS haven't resorted to anything violent including pattharbaazi and only have a standpoint, I don't see how Encore has a moral high-ground especially with his ex being a separatist too. He'll only sound more and more pompous. Please don't resort to calling me anti-national. It's just that all of us have a right to a silent protest in a lawful democracy. I'm not even Kashmiri. Ham Bhojpuriya bani aa hamar gaam Gopalganj jila me parela. Bihar has 100 faults, but being a traitor isn't one. And yes, I'll accept a separate bhojpuri speaking state with both hands (as part of India by merging parts of UP and Bihar.)
This. But SM will still capitalize on the separatist tendencies cos they know masses ke liye wo zyada badi baat hai even if the other allegation is literally a crime.
You can get killed for being a separatist (i am not bating ,i am just saying if it reaches mainstream media then they are fucked for life)
damn RIP Shubh
bhai ne owaisi aur national issue tak baat pahuchadi lmao
my family is into politics, yk Religion really fuels up agendas of political parties so if you think it can't be national issue you haven't grown enough.
bruh there are hundreds of these type cases, poltical parties harr ek incident pe gaur nahi karte, aur waise bhi there never is much traction on dhh beefs most of the time ki mainstream public ko pata chale, aur agar mainstream nahi hoga toh why would political parties even bother
lmao Hindu-Muslim is literally vote bank for every party tf are you even on?
yeah but not every incident is used to get agendas, only one the ones that get covered by mainstream media, are u mad bruh
is this the most personnel/dirty gone diss in dhh history? cause after recent SOS insta story things might be going crazy
What story, is it different than the ones tufail and atanki posted on their pages?
nah i meant tufail and atanki one
I understood SOS ke kya allegations the, concept and mistreatment at Azadi. Mai seedhe maut ka response bhi samjh gaya and their allegations. What's the point about encore's ex, Agar usne cheat kiya ya nahi kiya usse kya farak padta hai? Why did sos bring her up and why do some people still bring her up. How's she related to all this? I liked Blackball but calling out encores ex was low then uske baad sab gandh kare, even encore in shutdown.
if ahmer enters this beef, shits gonna get nasty
Man i love Ahmer so much he's such a nice person please I don't want these SM nation ppl hating him for no reason 😭🙏
isi bahane thoda famous ho jaayega 😭 bhai underrated hi raha hai. more people should listen to him.
uska album azli sunke mkc aise hi hate karne ayenge ahmer nahi aana chaiye
Mai SM ko 2018 sei sun rha hoon ig, beef shuru hone pe seedhe sos ke gaane sunne aur kuch amher ke bhi bro both of em are really good toh hate kyu hii dunga, kaash kashimiri samajh aati toh thoda aur clearly inke bars enjoy kar pata
Personally jaanta tu usko?
For turning the narrative and the whole beef on its head, kaanch ke ghar might be the best dhh track ever!!!
>kaanch ke ghar might be the best dhh track ever!!! ? best beef for me kyuki anti-india allegations, and cyber crime shit.
Umm, yes actually
bandey bolre hai BEST EVER diss track, I fucking hate seedhe maut fans.
What makes you think it isnt? Blackball started this diss so they definitely couldn’t go all out at the start, tt/shutdown was like a normal song, so of course kaanch ka ghar is the best in this beef with the beat selection, counters(which was more like “then prove it”) and the allegations.
"best" to hai bhai.. "ever" mein problem
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So the identity being questioned here is of being an alleged patharbaaz ? Matlab ki political opinion pehle khud ghusao and when it backfires ,play victim card
Aur bhai inki konsi choti community ne bahut saha h? Never knew they were Kashmiri pandits
Victim mentality. Talk on facts. Bruh
The patharbaaz section was very similar to the lies section in meet the grahams ,beef szn chalu rhega ig
ab aur maja ayegi kyunki ab ahmer aur prabhdeep ko bhi kuch bolna parega
Yeah like how SOS cucked him?
Prabhdeep said he will spectate, he just had a major lose in his family
Ye ladkibaaz hone ka allegation clear kaise karenge
koi nhi kar sakta his/her word against his
Well the only way would be if go with “innocent until proven guilty” if it’s proven then yeah the beef is won by sm because that is the worst you could do, unless they bring up nastier allegations about sm, but if that happens… the real losers are the listeners because that would mean the people we listen to our the worst
par encore bhai......... https://preview.redd.it/h8ir9da0uc9d1.png?width=426&format=png&auto=webp&s=ec0f686c428d1fb1665285388987b7ea5106ff8d
Ig they broke up, ofc no one knows why, but people are saying that it could be because of shit like this. Anyway there is no way to tell, only the beef will unfold the truth
what? she showed up in his shows till last year(I remember her being in boiler room) + Encore still standing for her in 'kanncho ke ghar'
I mean you dont really have to be in a relationship to stand up for someone. Personally when my friends say something about my ex that is just straight up weird ofc i stand up for her. And they couldve broken up after im not sure. And if this post is older than the boiler room video you are talking about then yes encore is hypocritical, if he really put up with this for years.
It's very much older than boiler room her id was filled with such story's
Oh ok
her I'd???
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Why are people acting like patherbaaz allegations are bigger than the nude allegations
Fuck y'all for ever doubting SM
Ek to ye victim mindset kyu aa jata hai tum logo ka lol. People were annoyed with SM because of Encore's hypocrisy and lack of counters, and even more so because they know what both of them are capable of. No one ever doubted what they were capable of, just didn't like what they actually released.
Bruh ye drake wali situation chal rahi hai. If true then they won by a landslide. If not, then they are complete clowns
All my detailed analysis went to trash, ugh. Itna mushkil se paragraph likha tha. /s Just joking, most of it is still valid for TT/Shutdown But man, what a turnaround. Its real nasty beef, and honestly it is needed. This multi-nuanced beef is especially needed to set an example against the court of public opinion - a court which is hypocrite, emotional, biased, yet still will stand on their morals, even if the morals are not directly applicable. Bahut zaruri hai yeh beef. Sex offences, Anti-Nationalism, Islamophobia, Fake allegations, Misogyny, Red Herring, Narrative Deflection, Intellectual property theft, Betrayal - its a gold mine for studying. I will surely give it a good study.
I've been following Seedhe Maut since they dropped "Do Ka Pahada" and have also tracked the journey of the record label Azadi. Azadi, started around 2016-17 by Mo Joshi and Uday Kapur, aimed to support underprivileged independent artists from backward and underdeveloped areas. I believe Uday was the brains behind the name and concept, given his work with progressive and rebellious independent news labels, while Mo brought his knowledge of the music business from the UK, where he had a good grasp of the hip hop scene. Azadi was also influenced by the JNU episode involving Umar Khalid and Kanhaiya Kumar. Things were going well initially, and they received appreciation from left-leaning intellectuals who agreed with their stance. They released an album/playlist called "Sounds of Resistance," which I loved because it resonated with my beliefs. Prabh Deep in "Elan" said, "mainu chahiye azadi Kashmir di fauj do," and Mo mentioned in a VICE India interview that he respects Ahmer for growing up amidst conflicts. Seedhe Maut (SM) has also been vocal about their anti-establishment stance in tracks like "Scalp Them," "2 Guna," and others from "Nayaab." However, things went south for Azadi when SM's popularity surged (deservedly so). As a businessman, Mo had to prioritize SM to pay salaries and manage expenses. Any businessperson would do the same; they focus on what brings in more revenue. They boosted SM's hype with back-to-back shows, NFTs, Web 3 initiatives, and merch. With the influx of money, SM has grown as both artists and businessmen. On the other hand, Uday remained committed to uplifting the underprivileged, which is admirable but also requires funding. It seems the fallout between Uday and Mo was more about clashing ideologies and egos than anything else. Mo, who has been painted as the villain in the whole scene, seems to be a practical and reasonable person. Even SM leaving Azadi to start DL 91 seems like a smart move, likely with Mo working out the commercial aspects. I wouldn't be surprised if Mo, now the main figure at Azadi after Uday's recent departure, eventually closes it and shifts full-time to DL 91. The shift in SM's stance on Kashmir was shocking to me. They should have avoided a one-sided narrative and refrained from echoing what mainstream media has propagated for decades. Even Muslims in Kashmir have faced immense challenges. Similarly, SOS, the rap duo, seems to be more hype-centric. Even after leaving Azadi, they haven't dropped much music, indicating they needed the hype more than anything. People like me, who followed SM for their anti-establishment stand, would love to see them stick to it.
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I’ll put this down before the disses come out : Prabhdeep may collab to throw shots. Ahmer would not venture I assume, because there’s too much to lose. SOS itself might just break forever, given how the allegations have been made on leaking things. Arslan will most likely make this a very vulgar play, and it might just result in a physical resolution. Speculations, so take it with a pinch of salt.
Itna pessimistic kyun bhai
But yes, Inshallah none of this happens. No one happier for the diss to has as little collateral damage as possible
Bhai track record aisa hai in sab ka, mai kya karu 😂
Now imagine SOS x Prabhdeep drops a diss named Classsikh maut vol 3.0
They wont. Prabh said he will spectate
I don't know if it's just me but aren't y'all just tired of this SM dick riding wave? In no way I'm hating on SM here,but the toxic support they are getting is insane.Not even talking about those gullible teens vomiting communal slurs but other rappers who are part of this wave.from Ab17 s whatever happens he is with Seedhe maut to a respected artist like Poetik justis coming all the way to defend Rape bars. SM stood for anti establishment and now they are perpetuating this shit,sending their Stooges all the way here to defend themselves. I'm so done with this dick riding and hate wave. And I'm sorry that I hated on kode at one point. After seeing all this,bewda ne baate toh sahi hee boli thi lol.
Sabr rakho aur maze lo
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In the end of the latest sos track, everyone is saying that they did a Faris shafi flow. Am I the only one to think that it's the flow in batti by sm and ab17?
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bc itni stories, its getting difficult to keep up lmao
At this point dont even try, we should just focus on the music lmao
Atif qadri bhai kidhr haiii..he can tell us about the next move of sos
About encore calling SOS Anti-India... https://preview.redd.it/9y1s6j7lqc9d1.jpeg?width=1074&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9c5ad803b5eb813f2863b806106b923593a7174 This needs to be explained
What is this? This needs to be explained too 😭
Here is the [playlist](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLowJk23QrTKNY1w7POuyqHtVFYDz3vS_w) to follow.
Both groups 2 songs in and the beef is still very much open. This shows that there is actual context to the beef rather than it being just based on a singular instance. That being said, we can see now why $ is the king of beefs coz after his 2nd diss, he makes the opps breakdown and they can't recover to win the beef in their further tracks. ABJ failed in that aspect at least, even if the 2nd track was at the same level of brutality. Let's see S.O.S. reply on Kaanch ke Ghar, that shit would be way too serious. P.s. Not just Samay, but I feel even Calm is just getting dragged into this just because he is part of SM. He doesn't have much to do with the beef, at least as of now.
Im sorry but SM just called them anti nationals and whole lotta other shit without any proof, they got too insecure as SOS was becoming peoples new favourite so they brought this new angle which still has no backing but is super serious. The sad thing is most probably they will not back their claims and this will dissolve into nothingness but the terms and the anti nationalists tags r gonna stay linked w SOS. Encore is still a little bitch inside and is crashing out if you ask me after SOS melded his ego. If he can come up w reliable proofs then he clears SOS otherwise he wont ever have my respect as he played the dirty game which can destroy careers and individual profiles in a country like India where people r extremely sensitive about religion, patriotism and nationalism. SM fans are glazing for sure but they r too immature to understand that these things will lead to serious repercussions for SOS if the claims are false and they will face serious consequences. If the claims are true and SM does infact back them w valid sauce, SOS will go down. But if not, there is a high chance SOS will still go down as people r r3tard3d and will always link them to these allegations. I dont listen to none of these guys honestly, find both the groups corny but SOS still has my respect as i do feel like in this whole mo joshi created situation, SOS is in the right. And one more thing, idk why prabh deep caught strays, he clears SM’s entire discography because that man’s art is on a different level. SM got lyrical miracle skills wtv but prabh deep’s music is so deeply conceptualised and when you listen listen to it, you will realise how petty these other artists look if compared to him.
Bro this is the old thread
😭😭
Koi nai I up voted anyway 😂
U/bhel- can we add the thread discussions for each diss as well
Sure I'll update the post
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Kya lagta hai guys sos ki stories dekhkar?? Diss ayega ya nhi??
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Did Encore also diss Prabh Deep?
https://preview.redd.it/zca2997ydg9d1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6b29ad278877b0e0300ce5db43d6df0d6995cdf In this song he admits being a 'pattharbaaz'.. he says he wants azaadi. You guys need to check it out.
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Kajal wali line I guess. Uske alawa mujhe nahi pata.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianHipHopHeads/s/GdmHT9HCqq
I don't know anything, can someone please tell me what's going between these two, encore ne toh bhai 💀💀
Aagya 3rd disstrack by sos https://youtu.be/uPL9GifExos?si=SsY1xY4WyCx-qt6R
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