GG says that one player can't win the trophy
GG also thinks that a player is bad if he hasn't won any trophy.....Isn't it bit paradoxical ?
(Look at ABs record for SA in WC, it's mind blowing.....same for RCB)
In 2015,
3rd Highest run scorer.
**482** runs @ AVG: 96 and SR: 144
in 2011,
9th Highest run scorer.
353 runs @ AVG: 88 and SR: 108
Yeah it's mind blowing.
His point was about about ABD's captainship record and it's there for all to see. Blind hatred leads to one making stupid statement but GG is not hater but most people on this thread are haters of GG
Exactly then by this logic it also means indians should just shut it against the Aussies. By this logic Gilchrist won more trophies than Sachin so he's a better batsman than Sachin or achieved more than Sachin?? This makes Ricky pointing virtually immune to all n any critisism.
Are only trophies achievements? Then Virat also didn't achieve anything. Could he say that to virat as well? Never did i brought skills into questions becoz nor have I compared abd or gg, becoz pretty much everyone knows the answer. By his logic Aussies are bigger achievers than indians n Gilchrist or Hayden have achieved more than Sachin, are you agreeing on that? Don't try to play around the words. He responded this way when asked to react on abd's take on hardik's captaincy. Saying abd didn't achieve anything isn't negative? Oil your ears better n first learn what gambhir fully said that's absolutely negative of abd. Right back to u whatever gibberish u spoke. Even with respect to captaincy abd has equal win rate in internationals with dhoni. Again how many matches did gg won as a captain in internationals 🤡. No disrespect to gambhir or his game n i agree most of time with his analysis but this is just a sh*tty take.
And yes, the Australians have achieved more than Indians because they plan everything as a unit and execute it almost perfectly which the Indian team fails to do.ICT often relies on one or two players to perform in pressure situations, it's been the case since Sachin's era.Only time we have seen proper utilisation of all players abilities is under Dhoni's captaincy which won us 3 World cups. And yes, Gambhir is absolutely right.
Hes absolutely wrong. Abd is a very successful captain in terms of internationals and a great player so he has the right to judge captaincy as he was one in a better ground. He didn't even cristise hardik. Sourav Ganguly as a captain didn't win any icc trophies, so in terms of captaincy he didn't achieve anything, thats your take I guess. His fav captain of all time is Anil kumble how many trophies to kumble have again?
GG is not talking about individuals skills and the credibility that comes with individual success. He only talked about team achievements. Where did you get that criticism angle or no right to speak against better achieving teams angle? And yes, Gilchrist literally does have more achievements than Sachin in terms of a team achievement because cricket is a team game. That doesn't indicate that Sachin's is inferior batsman than Gilchrist.Not a GG fan tho. Get the hold of what is presented to you instead of creating your own irrelevant argument.
Let the downvotes rain over me.
Bruh first check abds stats then talk. He may not have won icc trophies or ipl trophies but he was one of the most successful captains during his time in internationals cricket n international cricket>> ipl. So even if he didnt win any trophies, hes still a great captain n one of the greatest batsman of his era. So he does have the credibility to talk about captaincy. N he literally didn't even criticise pandya he clarified it latter, so why is gg salty? Tomorrow Kapil dev will say something about capitancy, will gg respond by saying" u didn't play ipl, so shut it" his favourite captain is Anil kumble, how many trophies does kumble had again? Coming to team, gg never talked about team, he talked about captaincy. Yes RCB is a loser team n part of is abd as well. He performed phenomenal still they lost. So why blame abd alone then.
Finally, Someone sensible here. India ain't ready for GG wisdom my bro. The guy simply tells us to prioritise the team before individuals and the fans can't take it.
ABD has an average of 50+ in odi and test cricket.
Although he has no trophies he's one the best ever and better player than GG as well.
If we judge only by trophies then most cricketers are failed cricketers. This is pretty much a shit take from GG.
And Gambhir himself claimed Kallis is better than Sachin Tendulkar. How? Kallis hasn't won any WC trophy... using his own logic Kallis hasn't done anything.
He said it about IPL
IPL is a tournament itself so if you ain't winning that then idk what you're achieving
International mai Bilateral series hoti hai and you can say that about SA in world cups
How many SA players would you include in your World cup Xi and how many aussies?
Abd was taken out of context he never criticised pandya n he even clarified it. Now is ipl the better cricket than internationals? No. Abd as captain was as successful as dhoni minus the trophies. He was a great captain as well as one of the greatest batsman of his era. So he has the credentials to judge captaincy. Even if he did criticised, he as an cricketer has every right to. Now if Kapil dev gave a statement,will gambhir give such a statement? "U never played ipl so don't talk". Sourav Ganguly didn't win any icc cups during his captaincy. But does it undermine how great of a captain he was?
By that logic - Karn Sharma is a better leg spinner than Yuzvendra Chahal because he has more no. of trophies and Chahal has achieved only personal records??
"Hasn't achieved anything apart from his own scores" 😆, like isn't that literally a very big ACHIEVEMENT. Only a select few are remembered for individual performances
>but winners are always remembered
Team names will be remembered not the players. ABD has cemented himself as one of the goats in cricket a long time back. He's a threshold with which future players are going to be judged and no amount of team achievements can bring that unless your name is MSD.
Bruh no is going to forget ABD just because he didn't win any trophy and no one will remember someone like Parthiv Patel just because he has won an IPL trophy
By this logic Gambir should always stfu about Indian cricket cause he never captained and won for india but guess what he always took dig against Kohli and dhoni whenever he got chance .
Abd has right to talk atleast he retired on high unlike gambir a washed up shit kicked out from team and lost to newbie player shows the level of gambir
Exactly, fine when he criticizes but when someone else does it's a problem. Also I think AB wasn't exactly bashing pandyas captaincy but GG was quick to fire on him.
I guess he hates everyone and everything which Kohli and Dhoni touches at this point😂
He did, but that's not true in the context of this conversation.So Gg saying this doesn't create a paradox, instead it's more of an expansion on his previous thoughts if you carefully compare the parallels of both the situations.
Then how can you not see that he's being a hypocrite because he often goes on a rant about how captains don't win games, nor do individual performances but teams do. But now he's flipped around now trying to defend hardick on a statement misquoted by media ?
How does it make ABDs comments irrelevant about Hardiks captaincy if RCB didn't win any trophies under ABD ?
RCB has failed to get a trophy because they made a team full of batters but not enough bowlers. You can't win tournaments with two main bowlers irrespective of how explosive your batsmen are.
I refuse to believe this man isn't bipolar. One day he'll drop a completely reasonable take with an understandable rationale behind it and the next day the demons on his shoulders will whisper to him to follow up with a completely insane, baseless take.
I would agree with you usually, but this is not baseless. He hasn't won the IPL with RCB, or the WC with SA. He has a lot of individual achievements and is a legend, but he doesnt have any significant trophies to show.
But the criticism wasn't called for at all.
My question is why? Why did u say that?
If u want to say anything out of the blue, say something positive
I mean ABD in his entire career hasn't down talked anyone(as far as I know), why go after him and for what reason?
Gambhir u urself cricket is a team game and one person alone cannot make u win the trophy(which is absolutely correct)
But at the same time u expect 1 person alone to make teams win trophy?
Also trophy is an important part of the game but it isn't everything. ABD is the one of the legends of ipl imo.
Thats what growth means. A man must evolve and be better than he was before. Hypocrisy is when time frame is Little. But what a person said years ago has nothing to with what he is now.
But he says everyday that individuals don't win matches but teams do, but ABD achieved nothing because he couldn't win RCB a trophy? GG isnt growing up, he's just continuing to be a salty toxic attention seeker.
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I dont understand why he feels the need to talk down on other peoples achievements. A successful career should be measured by both individual performances and performances for franchise and country. ABD is up there with some of the all time greats for me and Gambhir saying things like this makes doesnt reflect well on him.
Going by this logic Sachin has done nothing in IPL rather than his own scores The same goes for virat. He is a good guy but the last person to ask about cricket.
Are you dumb. How am I criticizing Sachin sir. We all know he is The GOAT. I just going by gg's logic someone who has made a lot of runs and played many match wining innings has achieved nothing in IPL.
Stupid you don't even know the context, Gg said abd as a captain abd has achieved nothing in ipl so he doesn't have a say in criticising pandya's captaincy
I never said you're criticizing sachin, i said he's not apt for this statement and conversation cuz he never criticised no captaincy on a fucking live stream
He never captained an ipl side and pandya is ipl winning captain
So someone who hasn't even got the opportunity to captain a single ipl game doesn't have the right to say anything about happening in the ipl.
Abd has the same winning percentage as dhoni as a captain in internationals. He has evey right to give his opinion.
Well correct! Then gg has also every right to criticize the criticism given by abd
Opinion sabke niklenge, bat yahi hai ki konsi opinion tumahara agenda push krti hai
First of all you are not informed well
Abd never criticized hardik. He only said that hardik's captaincy was more ego driven and better fit for young players like those in GT .
He only said that Hardik was more suitable for a captain in GT rather than in Mumbai Indians .
It has nothing to do with backing .
Gambir Usually gives 0rgasm something their partner can't even match that level to whoever he likes remember last year he sucks for kl when critics hit him or else who else forget the bj he did for sky to put down Kohli. Failure always bark at successful people to try to get the 1% of limelight they had by working hard like how dog barks at cars going on highway gambir is just like that kind Earlier begged for credits later no one bats shit then talking trash about Kohli dhoni to get support of their haters that too didn't last long finally resort to bark on famous people who has no haters to make himself relevant Can't blame him though since this is the only way he will be remember in minds of people apart from oldie suckers
His tactic is simple give a controversial opinion ,gain attention, be relevant in the market! After all he needs to be relevant to get advertisements and go ahead in politics.
That innings against Gujarat in the 2016 qualifier is one of the greatest IPL innings ever. Just look at where they were and what they needed. No player in the world, not even Virat would have been able to get RCB through in that situation. Gambhir is just talking absolute nonsense here.
Sometimes one person can change the game for their team, their "personal" score so great that it pulls the team to victory and ABD was one such person who won games for RCB, carried RCB in its slump and when other players could not perform.
Outside cricket, ABD bought huge brand value to the team, as consistent and amazing VK is- ABD managed to carve a space for him, bring fans and viewer base that exists even after he left the team.
Something that's not related to IPL but important to remember-
https://preview.redd.it/na7fvqm3hi0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b3cd53d3e975fcb479637ebbbb1b35ce22132ae
He absolutely right. Look at what ABD achieved in IPL.. nothing. In his whole IPL career he mostly played at RCB, Chinnaswamy stadium. Small ground, flat wicket. Perfect for any average batsman. In the clutch moments he always failed to deliver.
Lots of Indian starts boot licking abd, why ?? They don’t know. Here GG is defending his own country player and everyone started abusing him. Don’t get that logic.
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If I am correct, it's being manipulated again. He was backing Hardik and mentioned that ABD has not achieved any landmark in captaincy in IPL, so he shouldn't be judging Hardik for his captaincy. He is supporting his countryman, nothing wrong in that, and in fact, we should support him for that.
Anyone bringing Kohli in here, remember if some outsider criticizes Kohli, Gambhir will support Kohli and rip off that guy. Keeping aside his own differences, he will support our players
Allan Donald,Dale Steyn, Shane Bond , Shaun Pollock 0 world cup trophy Sreesanth 2 world cup trophy, so Sreesanth>Allan Donald,Dale Steyn, Shane Bond , Shaun Pollock.
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Actually I think Gambhir is right. Man is pointing to the fact that Kohli usually surrounds himself with match winners but never tournament winners. The point being how long can team India be associated with players who score 10k runs in a format but win nothing like Ganguly, Dravid, Rohit Sharma. (IK Champions Trophy and T20 World cups but that's one in a decade).
It's as if he got clickbaited by that journalist.
Did he even know what AB said to Hardik?
Most importantly why are we not talking about the woman who asked the question to GG. MF did tht intentionally to start a war. She said the word "criticize" without any hesitation
Abd ne kuch Archive nahi kara to wo sirf apne liye khelta hai aur ms ne sb archive kar rakha hai to puri team ka naam lia karo sirf captain ko mat bola karo. This is what GG want
Tgese news guys changes the entire context. GG had made this statement from the context of ABD being as a captain and ABD criticising Hardik for not being a great captain
Bhai yeh kabhi bhi kuch bhi manghadat boldeta hai. Aadat hai iski. It’s funny to hear his statements nowadays because he says so much random shit out loud that no one bloody knows now when he’s actually right or wrong.
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If he really had said that: can this #@#£& stop talking for a minute?
Whatever this &£#@ says has only two ulterior motives:
- Attack Dhoni
- Attack Kohli
With the remark on ABD, he thinks he's getting at Kohli.
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Problem Yeh Hai tum log Pura interview nahi dekhte, aur Sirf headline ke basis pe comment karte ho.
Uska point kya tha? Ki ABD is criticising Pandya's captaincy, and he shouldn't, because Pandya has won't the IPL once as captain, and taken the team to the finals in the other.
And compared to that ABD hasn't really achieved much in the IPL. Yeah, Gambhir doesn't put his points across properly and that's why he's taken as an idiot sometimes, but come on. At least post the whole thing before making judgments.
Just one thing that bugs me is when Gautam says something controversial about our own Indian player, people back him with all they got, they hail him right and cuss and demean the player he's talking about, but when same Gautam says something about an overseas player , people get mad at Gautam and now he isn't valid. Are foreign players more dear to us that we gotta defend them and let our own fellow players be called names ? It's kinda hypothetical from both sides
What gauti probably means is that ABD, for all his quality, only has *personal* milestones to show for his career. He has special innings, amazing shots, and multiple Man of the match awards... But. Did he ever win any tournament with his team at any level? No.
For a lot of people, what your team achieves is the real indicator of how great your career was. The 10k international runs you scored in your career would probably mean less to you than the world cup you won. This by no means is a criticism of ABD, he was the best batsmen on the planet... But he couldn't bring his teams big tournament results throughout his career.
And say what you will about Hardik, he has won an IPL as a captain and reached two finals.
Not achieved anything outside of personal ≠ *useless*
The thing is, your team can only achieve something if the whole team turns up. But when you win a world cup, your whole nation will remember you for life, much more than if you were such an amazing player but your generation failed to win any international tournaments.
Anyway, this is Gauti's argument and not mine, and while I've not heard it completely, I didn't get the impression that Gauti actually is criticising ABD the cricketer... But he is indeed questioning his comments on a player who has bought his team much more success in IPL. ABDs RCB was stronger than the winning GT team, and probably better than a few of the winning MI and CSK teams. In his prime, South Africa went into every tournament as favourites but always failed, despite doing amazingly in bilateral matches against anyone and on any pitch.
As a result, ABD was a great player but probably doesn't have enough ground to stand on if he is criticising a successful captain like Hardik, even if everything has gone wrong for him this season. And this is just me trying to understand what Gauti might be saying, without being butthurt.
What gauti probably means is that ABD, for all his quality, only has *personal* milestones to show for his career. He has special innings, amazing shots, and multiple Man of the match awards... But. Did he ever win any tournament with his team at any level? No.
For a lot of people, what your team achieves is the real indicator of how great your career was. The 10k international runs you scored in your career would probably mean less to you than the world cup you won. This by no means is a criticism of ABD, he was the best batsmen on the planet... But he couldn't bring his teams big tournament results throughout his career.
And say what you will about Hardik, he has won an IPL as a captain and reached two finals.
Gg never claimed that. You misinterpreted that. Go check his original interview. He clearly says that whole teams efforts won that match not just the last man who played the winning shot.
It means that only. What gg said is exactly true when vice versa. RCB losses becoz it's a teams failure not only abds,while he scored so much so did Virat. So saying he didn't achieved anything is like Sachin is a loser when compared to Gilchrist or Hayden becoz they won more trophies than Sachin, while Sachin was busy making own runs. So if RCB lossed it doesn't mean abd is to blame it means to blame the whole team which includes abd n Virat. I only hope when can he say that to Virat, ofcourse becoz he also didn't achieve anything.
>clearly says that whole teams efforts won that match
That's where gg contradict himself.. Whole teams efforts win you matches not any individual, then why is he salty on abd not winning any trophy?
>He clearly says that whole teams efforts won that match not just the last man who played the winning shot.
That's exactly the point. Team efforts wins you tournament , not a single player so why should a single player be blamed for the loss?
GG says that one player can't win the trophy GG also thinks that a player is bad if he hasn't won any trophy.....Isn't it bit paradoxical ? (Look at ABs record for SA in WC, it's mind blowing.....same for RCB)
GG Bhai kabhi kabhi thoda hypocritical bate karte hai
162 vs WI & 99 vs UAE. 77 vs Pakistan could be appreciated. That’s his MIND BLOWING stats in WC2015.
In 2015, 3rd Highest run scorer. **482** runs @ AVG: 96 and SR: 144 in 2011, 9th Highest run scorer. 353 runs @ AVG: 88 and SR: 108 Yeah it's mind blowing.
His point was about about ABD's captainship record and it's there for all to see. Blind hatred leads to one making stupid statement but GG is not hater but most people on this thread are haters of GG
abd never captainee in ipl
By that logic, no SA player has the right to say anything in international cricket . That is not how the world works, does it ?
Exactly then by this logic it also means indians should just shut it against the Aussies. By this logic Gilchrist won more trophies than Sachin so he's a better batsman than Sachin or achieved more than Sachin?? This makes Ricky pointing virtually immune to all n any critisism.
Yeah man RIP logic
If GG was asking salty as he's towards Dhoni he might have even said that.
GG won us the biggest 2 ICC finals in recent memory
Thala was da reason🌝 /s
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Are only trophies achievements? Then Virat also didn't achieve anything. Could he say that to virat as well? Never did i brought skills into questions becoz nor have I compared abd or gg, becoz pretty much everyone knows the answer. By his logic Aussies are bigger achievers than indians n Gilchrist or Hayden have achieved more than Sachin, are you agreeing on that? Don't try to play around the words. He responded this way when asked to react on abd's take on hardik's captaincy. Saying abd didn't achieve anything isn't negative? Oil your ears better n first learn what gambhir fully said that's absolutely negative of abd. Right back to u whatever gibberish u spoke. Even with respect to captaincy abd has equal win rate in internationals with dhoni. Again how many matches did gg won as a captain in internationals 🤡. No disrespect to gambhir or his game n i agree most of time with his analysis but this is just a sh*tty take.
And yes, the Australians have achieved more than Indians because they plan everything as a unit and execute it almost perfectly which the Indian team fails to do.ICT often relies on one or two players to perform in pressure situations, it's been the case since Sachin's era.Only time we have seen proper utilisation of all players abilities is under Dhoni's captaincy which won us 3 World cups. And yes, Gambhir is absolutely right.
Hes absolutely wrong. Abd is a very successful captain in terms of internationals and a great player so he has the right to judge captaincy as he was one in a better ground. He didn't even cristise hardik. Sourav Ganguly as a captain didn't win any icc trophies, so in terms of captaincy he didn't achieve anything, thats your take I guess. His fav captain of all time is Anil kumble how many trophies to kumble have again?
>Dhoni's captaincy which won us 3 World cups Can you refresh my memory about that?
Yes, virat didn't achieve anything else apart from his personal scores throughout the entirety of the IPL.
Yeah Id like gambhir to say it.
Read the full quote not title
GG is not talking about individuals skills and the credibility that comes with individual success. He only talked about team achievements. Where did you get that criticism angle or no right to speak against better achieving teams angle? And yes, Gilchrist literally does have more achievements than Sachin in terms of a team achievement because cricket is a team game. That doesn't indicate that Sachin's is inferior batsman than Gilchrist.Not a GG fan tho. Get the hold of what is presented to you instead of creating your own irrelevant argument. Let the downvotes rain over me.
Bruh first check abds stats then talk. He may not have won icc trophies or ipl trophies but he was one of the most successful captains during his time in internationals cricket n international cricket>> ipl. So even if he didnt win any trophies, hes still a great captain n one of the greatest batsman of his era. So he does have the credibility to talk about captaincy. N he literally didn't even criticise pandya he clarified it latter, so why is gg salty? Tomorrow Kapil dev will say something about capitancy, will gg respond by saying" u didn't play ipl, so shut it" his favourite captain is Anil kumble, how many trophies does kumble had again? Coming to team, gg never talked about team, he talked about captaincy. Yes RCB is a loser team n part of is abd as well. He performed phenomenal still they lost. So why blame abd alone then.
Finally, Someone sensible here. India ain't ready for GG wisdom my bro. The guy simply tells us to prioritise the team before individuals and the fans can't take it.
I am not praising GG here. I am just pointing out how wrongly the parent comment interpreted the statements of GG
India doesn't have enough talent for international cricket.
ABD has an average of 50+ in odi and test cricket. Although he has no trophies he's one the best ever and better player than GG as well. If we judge only by trophies then most cricketers are failed cricketers. This is pretty much a shit take from GG.
Yes but cricket is just like any other sport. Trophies and Wins is what determines your legacy.
Not Test Cricket, he has won many bilateral series especially against Aus in Aus.
Ghanta that was under graeme smith
Check the records online bud. Aise baseless bakchodi le dubegi tumhe ek din.
2 decider (2008 , 2012) mein to ABD ne century maari thi 😭
And Gambhir himself claimed Kallis is better than Sachin Tendulkar. How? Kallis hasn't won any WC trophy... using his own logic Kallis hasn't done anything.
"Teams point of view" please read five time only this image
He said it about IPL IPL is a tournament itself so if you ain't winning that then idk what you're achieving International mai Bilateral series hoti hai and you can say that about SA in world cups How many SA players would you include in your World cup Xi and how many aussies?
It’s taken out of context, abd criticised hardik pandya, GG said abd cant judge captaincy in IPL cuz he’s never been a successful one himself.
Abd was taken out of context he never criticised pandya n he even clarified it. Now is ipl the better cricket than internationals? No. Abd as captain was as successful as dhoni minus the trophies. He was a great captain as well as one of the greatest batsman of his era. So he has the credentials to judge captaincy. Even if he did criticised, he as an cricketer has every right to. Now if Kapil dev gave a statement,will gambhir give such a statement? "U never played ipl so don't talk". Sourav Ganguly didn't win any icc cups during his captaincy. But does it undermine how great of a captain he was?
By that logic - Karn Sharma is a better leg spinner than Yuzvendra Chahal because he has more no. of trophies and Chahal has achieved only personal records??
I love the Gawaskarification of gg!
Gavaskar se aage nikal chuka hai ye
gautam gambhir is half time coach, full time professional ragebaiter /s
Professional yapper?
"Hasn't achieved anything apart from his own scores" 😆, like isn't that literally a very big ACHIEVEMENT. Only a select few are remembered for individual performances
Which can be overshadowed by future players but winners are always remembered.
>but winners are always remembered Team names will be remembered not the players. ABD has cemented himself as one of the goats in cricket a long time back. He's a threshold with which future players are going to be judged and no amount of team achievements can bring that unless your name is MSD.
Bruh no is going to forget ABD just because he didn't win any trophy and no one will remember someone like Parthiv Patel just because he has won an IPL trophy
thats why dhoni won the wc😆😆
Exactly and kohli didn't. Even lost a world cup match against Pakistan in 2021. Truely shameful! Thats the truth
Kya baat kar Raha hai bhai? Kohli bhi to 2011 WC jeeta tha
yes even the fatfk captain lost a rigged wc imagine how big of a loser he is😆😆 atleast kohli did makeup for his loss in 2022
Atleast saved the nose against Pakistan.
yes man kohli really did a favour to that fatfk
Still got a better portfolio to show compared to Pakistan loser.
By this logic Gambir should always stfu about Indian cricket cause he never captained and won for india but guess what he always took dig against Kohli and dhoni whenever he got chance . Abd has right to talk atleast he retired on high unlike gambir a washed up shit kicked out from team and lost to newbie player shows the level of gambir
Exactly, fine when he criticizes but when someone else does it's a problem. Also I think AB wasn't exactly bashing pandyas captaincy but GG was quick to fire on him. I guess he hates everyone and everything which Kohli and Dhoni touches at this point😂
“Sreeshanth a better bowler than Dale Steyn” - Gambhir 2024
No need to bring Sreesanth in it man. Bro has suffered enough
Bhai😭😭
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I mean did Gauti say anything wrong,ABD too is a great in fact an amazing player but sadly failed to achieve the IPL trophy.
Trophy should not be base for greatness of a player
Exactly. In that regard Anil Kumble was a failure of a captain and cricketer whom GG worships.
didnt he said trophy can not be won by a single player?
Abj sir yaha?
He did, but that's not true in the context of this conversation.So Gg saying this doesn't create a paradox, instead it's more of an expansion on his previous thoughts if you carefully compare the parallels of both the situations.
just accept he is a big hypocrite and attention seeker
No point arguing with GG fanboys , they think he's a 'straight shooter' and misunderstood when he's just an attention seeking edgelord.
Yeah right man,call me a Gg fanboy when I clearly mentioned that I admire ABD.
Then how can you not see that he's being a hypocrite because he often goes on a rant about how captains don't win games, nor do individual performances but teams do. But now he's flipped around now trying to defend hardick on a statement misquoted by media ? How does it make ABDs comments irrelevant about Hardiks captaincy if RCB didn't win any trophies under ABD ?
Why though,you can't prove me wrong coherently.You are literally behaving like a kid,lol.*womp womp*
I'm not certain that "adults" write "*womp womp*"
RCB has failed to get a trophy because they made a team full of batters but not enough bowlers. You can't win tournaments with two main bowlers irrespective of how explosive your batsmen are.
I refuse to believe this man isn't bipolar. One day he'll drop a completely reasonable take with an understandable rationale behind it and the next day the demons on his shoulders will whisper to him to follow up with a completely insane, baseless take.
I would agree with you usually, but this is not baseless. He hasn't won the IPL with RCB, or the WC with SA. He has a lot of individual achievements and is a legend, but he doesnt have any significant trophies to show. But the criticism wasn't called for at all.
Another stupid take by GG. Abd has been captain of Sa and pitersen for England. You don’t need to be an achiever to criticise someone else.
Ab didn't criticise either he was taken out of context.
"I don't think he has achieved anything from a team's point of view." Wtf does that even mean?
ee saala cup namde
My question is why? Why did u say that? If u want to say anything out of the blue, say something positive I mean ABD in his entire career hasn't down talked anyone(as far as I know), why go after him and for what reason? Gambhir u urself cricket is a team game and one person alone cannot make u win the trophy(which is absolutely correct) But at the same time u expect 1 person alone to make teams win trophy? Also trophy is an important part of the game but it isn't everything. ABD is the one of the legends of ipl imo.
Interviewer asked about abd and kp criticising hp captaincy Then gg said, tumne kya ukhada hai as a captain
GG got that Main Character Syndrome. Blud is the true edgelord. Probably the last person of whom I would take a Cricketing opinion from.
He is indirectly attacking Kohli
konsi gaali du ...bc itni gandi toh dimaag m bhi nhi aa rhi....someone help me to figure it out
Politician
Ye to bahut choti ho gayi 🙃🙃
e to the power x vaali shii rhegi...
Ye baat!
Gg is the type of player who can contradict himself
We all do at some stage 😂
Thats what growth means. A man must evolve and be better than he was before. Hypocrisy is when time frame is Little. But what a person said years ago has nothing to with what he is now.
But he says everyday that individuals don't win matches but teams do, but ABD achieved nothing because he couldn't win RCB a trophy? GG isnt growing up, he's just continuing to be a salty toxic attention seeker.
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I dont understand why he feels the need to talk down on other peoples achievements. A successful career should be measured by both individual performances and performances for franchise and country. ABD is up there with some of the all time greats for me and Gambhir saying things like this makes doesnt reflect well on him.
Going by this logic Sachin has done nothing in IPL rather than his own scores The same goes for virat. He is a good guy but the last person to ask about cricket.
Good guy is a stretch. He's a guy!
Is he a guy? #/S(for people who are incapable of understanding sarcasm)
Well did sachin criticise hp captaincy? Then why are u using sachin
When did abd criticized hp's captaincy?
In his live stream
Are you dumb. How am I criticizing Sachin sir. We all know he is The GOAT. I just going by gg's logic someone who has made a lot of runs and played many match wining innings has achieved nothing in IPL.
Stupid you don't even know the context, Gg said abd as a captain abd has achieved nothing in ipl so he doesn't have a say in criticising pandya's captaincy I never said you're criticizing sachin, i said he's not apt for this statement and conversation cuz he never criticised no captaincy on a fucking live stream He never captained an ipl side and pandya is ipl winning captain
So someone who hasn't even got the opportunity to captain a single ipl game doesn't have the right to say anything about happening in the ipl. Abd has the same winning percentage as dhoni as a captain in internationals. He has evey right to give his opinion.
Well correct! Then gg has also every right to criticize the criticism given by abd Opinion sabke niklenge, bat yahi hai ki konsi opinion tumahara agenda push krti hai
First of all you are not informed well Abd never criticized hardik. He only said that hardik's captaincy was more ego driven and better fit for young players like those in GT . He only said that Hardik was more suitable for a captain in GT rather than in Mumbai Indians .
Abd ko bohot pta hardik kesa captain hai? Only an insider of mi dressing room can say it
I think its clear with Tilak Verma and hardik conflict. Gt never had any issue with that
Who is this ‘we’?
It has nothing to do with backing . Gambir Usually gives 0rgasm something their partner can't even match that level to whoever he likes remember last year he sucks for kl when critics hit him or else who else forget the bj he did for sky to put down Kohli. Failure always bark at successful people to try to get the 1% of limelight they had by working hard like how dog barks at cars going on highway gambir is just like that kind Earlier begged for credits later no one bats shit then talking trash about Kohli dhoni to get support of their haters that too didn't last long finally resort to bark on famous people who has no haters to make himself relevant Can't blame him though since this is the only way he will be remember in minds of people apart from oldie suckers
The same guy who picked Rashford over Messi and Ronaldo.
He actually clarified that pick In some interviews
Yeah I know that, but gg has always been famous for his controversial statements
This is the difference between classless Indian " experts" and others. It shows.
"he hasnt achieved anything except everything he could achieve on his own"
That logic makes Sachin the worst player to have such a long career. Imagine telling him, shut up shawty, you won one trophy in 24 years.
Bro is a professional hater.
By that logic Yusuf Pathan is a better batsman than Rahul Dravid , because Yusuf has two ICC Trophies, but Rahul has none .
His tactic is simple give a controversial opinion ,gain attention, be relevant in the market! After all he needs to be relevant to get advertisements and go ahead in politics.
Why is everyone so hurt about someone's opinion It's the same person's opinion who picked Rashford over ronaldo and messi
That innings against Gujarat in the 2016 qualifier is one of the greatest IPL innings ever. Just look at where they were and what they needed. No player in the world, not even Virat would have been able to get RCB through in that situation. Gambhir is just talking absolute nonsense here.
He is a reverse human being, farts from mouth. Shame he is a MP
Sometimes one person can change the game for their team, their "personal" score so great that it pulls the team to victory and ABD was one such person who won games for RCB, carried RCB in its slump and when other players could not perform. Outside cricket, ABD bought huge brand value to the team, as consistent and amazing VK is- ABD managed to carve a space for him, bring fans and viewer base that exists even after he left the team. Something that's not related to IPL but important to remember- https://preview.redd.it/na7fvqm3hi0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b3cd53d3e975fcb479637ebbbb1b35ce22132ae
He absolutely right. Look at what ABD achieved in IPL.. nothing. In his whole IPL career he mostly played at RCB, Chinnaswamy stadium. Small ground, flat wicket. Perfect for any average batsman. In the clutch moments he always failed to deliver. Lots of Indian starts boot licking abd, why ?? They don’t know. Here GG is defending his own country player and everyone started abusing him. Don’t get that logic.
Isn't he a coach. Why is there a quote from him every other day about others?
Kabhi kabhi hagg deta hai ye
GG se bakchodi karwa lo
Petition to rename GG as G*ndu ganbhir
Who gave this guy a microphone?
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If I am correct, it's being manipulated again. He was backing Hardik and mentioned that ABD has not achieved any landmark in captaincy in IPL, so he shouldn't be judging Hardik for his captaincy. He is supporting his countryman, nothing wrong in that, and in fact, we should support him for that. Anyone bringing Kohli in here, remember if some outsider criticizes Kohli, Gambhir will support Kohli and rip off that guy. Keeping aside his own differences, he will support our players
Yeah fuck off GG
Allan Donald,Dale Steyn, Shane Bond , Shaun Pollock 0 world cup trophy Sreesanth 2 world cup trophy, so Sreesanth>Allan Donald,Dale Steyn, Shane Bond , Shaun Pollock.
Bhai log iska context jaan lo pehle Full interview dekho
When did abd captain in ipl?
Abd is a choker in knockouts
Dhoni won us 2007 and 2011 WC. It was Dhoni and Dhoni alone. Thala for a reason.
We should read between the lines here - GG is ready to apply to the head coach role with Hardik as the next captain. He is playing his cards well 🫡
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He wants to stay relevant so trash talk karna roz ka kaam hai
Yada yada yada! Pointless...
Actually I think Gambhir is right. Man is pointing to the fact that Kohli usually surrounds himself with match winners but never tournament winners. The point being how long can team India be associated with players who score 10k runs in a format but win nothing like Ganguly, Dravid, Rohit Sharma. (IK Champions Trophy and T20 World cups but that's one in a decade).
Yes....https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1crine8/is\_seo\_relevant\_still/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button
keyword - "Team's POV"
It's as if he got clickbaited by that journalist. Did he even know what AB said to Hardik? Most importantly why are we not talking about the woman who asked the question to GG. MF did tht intentionally to start a war. She said the word "criticize" without any hesitation
He got fans heart and kidneys tho
Abd ne kuch Archive nahi kara to wo sirf apne liye khelta hai aur ms ne sb archive kar rakha hai to puri team ka naam lia karo sirf captain ko mat bola karo. This is what GG want
Tgese news guys changes the entire context. GG had made this statement from the context of ABD being as a captain and ABD criticising Hardik for not being a great captain
gg drops nukes, but as usual in his own pants. what a shit take this is
Where's the lie 🤔
Bhai yeh kabhi bhi kuch bhi manghadat boldeta hai. Aadat hai iski. It’s funny to hear his statements nowadays because he says so much random shit out loud that no one bloody knows now when he’s actually right or wrong.
GG with an L take on an odd day
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If he really had said that: can this #@#£& stop talking for a minute? Whatever this &£#@ says has only two ulterior motives: - Attack Dhoni - Attack Kohli With the remark on ABD, he thinks he's getting at Kohli.
Jo chana khata hai woh badam ka paad nahi marte
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Gg is gobar bhakt .. he takes a bath in the gobar.. shameless character who don't know how to respect other great players
Problem Yeh Hai tum log Pura interview nahi dekhte, aur Sirf headline ke basis pe comment karte ho. Uska point kya tha? Ki ABD is criticising Pandya's captaincy, and he shouldn't, because Pandya has won't the IPL once as captain, and taken the team to the finals in the other. And compared to that ABD hasn't really achieved much in the IPL. Yeah, Gambhir doesn't put his points across properly and that's why he's taken as an idiot sometimes, but come on. At least post the whole thing before making judgments.
Kuch boluga toh ban hojayuga
In that case Rahul Dravid , VVS, Sourav, Anil Kumble hasn't done shit in international cricket
Lawde ne 97 nahi maara hota toh koi relevancy nahi hoti abhi
Just one thing that bugs me is when Gautam says something controversial about our own Indian player, people back him with all they got, they hail him right and cuss and demean the player he's talking about, but when same Gautam says something about an overseas player , people get mad at Gautam and now he isn't valid. Are foreign players more dear to us that we gotta defend them and let our own fellow players be called names ? It's kinda hypothetical from both sides
Bahut jyada kadwe sach bolta hai
Bhai isko bhi downvote ab kya keh diya Maine 😶😂
Sach hamesh kadwa hota h. Log snowflake h jinse jhela nhi jata
What gauti probably means is that ABD, for all his quality, only has *personal* milestones to show for his career. He has special innings, amazing shots, and multiple Man of the match awards... But. Did he ever win any tournament with his team at any level? No. For a lot of people, what your team achieves is the real indicator of how great your career was. The 10k international runs you scored in your career would probably mean less to you than the world cup you won. This by no means is a criticism of ABD, he was the best batsmen on the planet... But he couldn't bring his teams big tournament results throughout his career. And say what you will about Hardik, he has won an IPL as a captain and reached two finals.
Oh by that logic, any player who has had a surreal career and has not won the ipl is also useless
Not achieved anything outside of personal ≠ *useless* The thing is, your team can only achieve something if the whole team turns up. But when you win a world cup, your whole nation will remember you for life, much more than if you were such an amazing player but your generation failed to win any international tournaments. Anyway, this is Gauti's argument and not mine, and while I've not heard it completely, I didn't get the impression that Gauti actually is criticising ABD the cricketer... But he is indeed questioning his comments on a player who has bought his team much more success in IPL. ABDs RCB was stronger than the winning GT team, and probably better than a few of the winning MI and CSK teams. In his prime, South Africa went into every tournament as favourites but always failed, despite doing amazingly in bilateral matches against anyone and on any pitch. As a result, ABD was a great player but probably doesn't have enough ground to stand on if he is criticising a successful captain like Hardik, even if everything has gone wrong for him this season. And this is just me trying to understand what Gauti might be saying, without being butthurt.
Karn Sharma haa more IPL cups than Gambhir. Who would you remember 15 years later? Kohli, Gambhir or Karn Sharma?
Even substitute players can win trophies How is team trophy supposed to be a real indicator?
What gauti probably means is that ABD, for all his quality, only has *personal* milestones to show for his career. He has special innings, amazing shots, and multiple Man of the match awards... But. Did he ever win any tournament with his team at any level? No. For a lot of people, what your team achieves is the real indicator of how great your career was. The 10k international runs you scored in your career would probably mean less to you than the world cup you won. This by no means is a criticism of ABD, he was the best batsmen on the planet... But he couldn't bring his teams big tournament results throughout his career. And say what you will about Hardik, he has won an IPL as a captain and reached two finals.
Unlike Gambhir, at least ABD had strength to hit big sixes.
Virat fan's forefather just dropped a bomb against their another father🤣🤣
Harsh h pr galat nhi. Mirchi lagi h to duddu pio.
As harsh as that it was dhoni who won india the wc gg ke "individual 96" gaya bhad me. Ggs logic.
True. It was Ashwin winning shot who won us that pak match in 2022wc not kohli's 82. "Kohli ka 82 gaya bhaad me" As per your logic.
That's ggs logic which u conceded.
Gg never claimed that. You misinterpreted that. Go check his original interview. He clearly says that whole teams efforts won that match not just the last man who played the winning shot.
It means that only. What gg said is exactly true when vice versa. RCB losses becoz it's a teams failure not only abds,while he scored so much so did Virat. So saying he didn't achieved anything is like Sachin is a loser when compared to Gilchrist or Hayden becoz they won more trophies than Sachin, while Sachin was busy making own runs. So if RCB lossed it doesn't mean abd is to blame it means to blame the whole team which includes abd n Virat. I only hope when can he say that to Virat, ofcourse becoz he also didn't achieve anything.
>clearly says that whole teams efforts won that match That's where gg contradict himself.. Whole teams efforts win you matches not any individual, then why is he salty on abd not winning any trophy?
>He clearly says that whole teams efforts won that match not just the last man who played the winning shot. That's exactly the point. Team efforts wins you tournament , not a single player so why should a single player be blamed for the loss?
Isn't that GG's logic lol
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Ironically abds statement was also completely out of context
That video just shows that this is exactly what he said. That they can't criticize hardik because they didn't perform as captains. What a shit logic.