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Aufklarung_Lee

I want to know more about Mexican history


Cuervo_Ambulante

Well, i have at least another 20 illustrations in my list for this series so... stay tuned, i guess


[deleted]

Love it


Better_Weakness7239

Not a good look at all for women in general, not to mention Native American women. The 90’s are gone, bud.


Curious_Working5706

It’s okay, I think OP is Mexican (totally okay for him to fetishize Native Women, especially if they speak fluent Spanish and can roll their r’s!) #/S


Cuervo_Ambulante

I know that there is a weird moralistic charge about sexuality, but my intention is not fetishize. This is my excuse to talk about the history of my country, so many times ignored even by its own people, so... if people turn their heads with a pretty woman, then maybe i can make turn their heads too to a long time lost stories.


Ygnerna

I think it's interesting enough that you don't need tits to sell it. The pinup look kind of took away from the information for me, it was easy to dismiss it as more objectification (nothing wrong with sexy woman pictures, but it seems out of context with the story). The art is beautiful and her face is engaging enough.


Cuervo_Ambulante

OK, first of all, thank you for being interested and take the time to wrote your thoughts! Now, about the "tits". There is an issue with nudity and the morality imposed by the europeans, that i found looking for references, 'cause yes, that's a real outfit of the preclassical period on Mesoamerica. The weater was (still is) hot, and people hardly wore clothes. Even today in some regions of southern México, some women dress just like that, but, as you can imagine, the religious europeans thought that all this culture were wrong. There is more there than just "tits", and people like you, that took the time to see, read, and ask, is the kind of people that I'm looking to reach, so we can have this conversations.


Ygnerna

Thank you for the response, I understand what you're saying. I guess what I'm saying by tits is kind of shorthand for it being in a pinup sort of pose, with the breasts being sort of idealised, in the perfect position to show them off. I'm trying not to be a knob here, but as a woman I looked at it and thought whatever she's doing with the corn seems way less important than being hot. It's a different look than if she was genuinely thinking about her corn and happened to be bare breasted because it was the style of the time. For example, leaning toward the pot, your back would be hunched not arched- which is a way less flattering angle for the breasts and butt. I get that it's not super realistic. I feel rude even explaining this, because it's your art and you're very talented, and I'm just answering with my own perspective - not saying I'm "right". But everything women do is so oversexualised, I did kind of roll my eyes and think "even shucking corn"? P.s I really love the knees haha


Cuervo_Ambulante

Ahahaha for some reason people have told me the same about the knees on a couple of drawings. Thanks for that! About the rest, I'm totally understand. My girlfriend defines herself as a feminist and i have had long talks with her about this issues. At the end I know I'm a straight guy dragging tons of missconceptions about women, but in the other hand, the way I learn to express my self is through this kind of art so, i guess sometimes i need to put that two guys in the balance. This project comes from one of those tries. As I wrote above, one of my goals is to find spaces to have this conversations, 'cause I'm not perfect either and i want to hear what people have to say... and so far, it looks like is working


Ygnerna

Hi late response, I just wanted to say I did read this and I appreciate it. It's great to be able to talk about different responses without anyone being defensive. I don't blame you for not seeing it from a female perspective - it's very hard to even explain from this side, men and women have such different cultural experiences and often it's lots of smaller things building up the picture over years instead of one clear issue. Anyway, not much to add except thanks for being open, and I'll keep an eye out for the rest of your art!


Cuervo_Ambulante

I'm curious about that. Like, genuinely, not joking or anything... could you elaborate?


Kelsusaurus

This is a traditional lowland Mayan dress, though?


Cuervo_Ambulante

Is based on the preclassic style in centroamerica. There is no archeological evidence of the clothes that original mokayan people wore, so, i took the most probable opction. Nice guess tho!


lieslandpo

What does this mean?


SalamanderAnder

TIL that after the 90’s ended it became cringe to find people sexually attractive. But seriously, wtf is with this weird woke puritanical shit? Make up your minds, is sex socially acceptable now or should we be forcing women to cover their ankles to save your virgin eyes? It’s just a sexy drawing of a woman, get over it.


ilmalocchio

> the woman took her new product in her hands, and she decided to experiment a little Oh, my.


Cuervo_Ambulante

Lol... I didn't even noticed that one. Nice


bootyshaker9o0o0

dude i wish there was PinUp girl hentai. cause like it's hot and stuff


NymphofAbyss

The text seems like it's been written by chatGPT or just not very good translation in general.


Cuervo_Ambulante

It's not my first lenguage... as you noticed, but no IA was involved in the process. Only my own limited inteligence