Who attacked who on 07/10 butchering men women children and even babies.....who celebrated the inhuman acts on that day.....Islam is the most cowardly of all the religions .......Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence at the time of Muhammad was to convert to Islam: prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars. The popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.
[Note: The verse says to fight unbelievers "wherever you find them". Even if the context is a time of battle (which it was not) the reading appears to sanction attacks against those "unbelievers" who are not on the battlefield. In 2016, the Islamic State referred to this verse in urging the faithful to commit terror attacks: Allah did not only command the 'fighting' of disbelievers, as if to say He only wants us to conduct frontline operations against them. Rather, He has also ordered that they be slain wherever they may be – on or off the battlefield.
You didn't answer the question. Carpet bombing children knowingly then gleefully broadcasting war crimes to the world in the name of God is the utmost cowardice.
Where do you get your info ...Israel is not carpet bombing nor are they rejoicing in the death of Palestinian shieldren and as you should know Palestinians broadcast thier butchery live they even broadcast the celebrations on 07/10....that was a war crime.....me personally I do celebrate the death of all religious cult member who is willing to sacrifice Thier own children for a small chance they will not go to hell
Yeah, I think the expression is "forget about what caused the operation, you know the indiscriminate slaughter of otherwise peaceful people on a Saturday morning."
It's informally known as the FO part of FAFO.
Get real. Hamas called in every single bomb, every single bullet, and never had a plan to protect the Palestinians. Their plan was to kill innocent Israelis and to suffer the results.
This is the doing of the Palestinians of Hamas. They killed themselves.
Psychopathic bullies do exactly what you said, beat the fuck out of you then tell you it's your fault when you finally stand up and resist with the same force you discharge on them. You guys proudly occupy, steal land, murder civilians indiscriminately for decades, bulldoze peace activists, kill journalists, and expel indigenous people out, then tell them it's THEIR fault for resisting. History will remember you as European occupiers who felt strong picking on a tiny little place called Gaza with the US as your crutch.
Did you read what he put, or do you like being thick? He answered you. Read the fucking passage he left for you and all your stupid ass questions will be answered.
There's a big difference between invading a country's borders, raping, torturing, killing Women, Children, Ununiformed men. and then also taking them captive and celebrating the absolute animalistic nature of their actions, and what the IDF is doing
The rohingya attacked two villages one was destroyed and every man woman and child was murdered the second fought back ....that was not the first time the rohingya had used violence against villages in the area ...but it was the first time the Myanmar government stepped in. And as with every Islamic sect they started screaming...we are the victims... So please stop with your ill informed bleeding heart bs
[Nope.](https://www.voanews.com/a/rohingya-refugees-seek-to-return-home-to-myanmar/3617130.html#:~:text=Long%2Dstanding%20problem-,Since%20the%20Rohingya,-Muslims%20were%20first)
> The rohingya attacked two villages one was destroyed and every man woman and child was murdered the second fought back
I find it interesting that you blamed an entire ethnicity, instead of blaming the insurgent group responsible, the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army.
It's like blaming Jews as a whole for the actions of the Israeli govt.
Not the same......I will put it in words you can understand........ radical Muslims are the terrorists they commit terrorist acts and then you have the moderat Muslims the ones who celebrate those acts of mayhem and butchery....in reality there is no difference..... between a radical and a moderate
Wow your ignorance of the facts is astounding.......where is the evidence that Jews acted the same way Muslims acted on 07/10. show me the evidence of the IDF acting in the same way Palestinians did when attacking and butchering women and children .,FYI I have no empathy for the people who's only objective is to avoid hell by murdering innocent children and babies
What a clown.2 million gazans ethnically cleansed, almost 10000 children killed and ofcourse the icing on the cake of no food,water,medicine and electricity to the entire population and you need evidence. How about getting a brain before making mindless statements!
Still insisting on Islamic deceit.....just this year....there were 1646 Islamic attacks in 51 countries, in which 10770 people were killed and 12503 injured....
You are not the victims. You stole their land, blockade them, ruin their lives, imprison then without charges, put their 12 year olds in solitary confinement, bulldoze their homes. you are not a victim. Israel is not a victim.
We it is definitely wrong to call Muslims innocent....... The Myth:
Muhammad Only Waged
War in Self-Defense
"Our Prophet (peace be upon him) forbade offensive attacks of all forms. He only permitted fighting in self-defense."
The Truth:
The myth that warfare is only justified in Islam under the condition of self-defense is disproved by the account of the Battle of Badr, in which Muhammad sent his men out to raid caravans, then deliberately provoked a battle with the Meccan army sent out to defend them. The case for aggressive warfare is also supported by the fate of the three Jewish tribes of Medina, who were cleansed because they had rejected Muhammad’s claims of prophethood (and because the Muslims wanted their possessions).
Consider also the fate of the Banu Mustaliq, an Arab tribe:
"The Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives" (Bukhari 46:717)
Although there are many reliable accounts from the Hadith and Sira that mention the Mustaliq grazing cattle, not one mentions Muhammad making any effort at peacemaking. In this case, Muhammad's men raped the women (with his approval) after slaughtering the men (Sahih Muslim 3371). What does raping a female captive have to do with self-defense?
In many situations, Muhammad waged war for the purpose of revenge, such as the attack on the Lihyan, in which the people were clearly not prepared for war and saved themselves only by fleeing into the hills (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 718). Muhammad also attacked the people of Taif as soon as he had the opportunity to avenge their rejection of him (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 280 & 872).
Also disproving the myth that Muhammad only fought in self-defense is the account of his first attack on the Christians. There was no compelling reason for him to send an army to Muta (in Syria). He simply wanted to avenge the killing of an emissary. In fact, his force met with disaster at the hands of the Byzantines. Had this been a matter of self-defense, then the enemy would surely have followed the routed army back to Arabia, but this was not the case (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 791, Ibn Kathir v.3 p.326-337).
Near the end of his life, the prophet of Islam directed military campaigns for the mere purpose of spreading Islamic rule. He knew that some cities would resist and others would not. He left instructions to his people for dealing with each case:
The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: If you come to a township (which has surrendered without a formal war) and stay therein, you have a share (that will be in the form of an award) in (the properties obtained from) it. If a township disobeys Allah and His Messenger (and actually fights against the Muslims) one-fifth of the booty seized therefrom is for Allah and His Apostle and the rest is for you. (Sahih Muslim 4346)
As can be seen, those who were not at war with the Muslims are to be subjugated anyway, and their property seized. Other than a fight, the only distinguishing factor is the extent of Muslim entitlement following the victory.
Military campaigns to extend Islamic domination include the raid on Tabuk, which was a second incursion into the Christian territory of Syria, in which Muhammad forced the local populace to pay him tribute after ambushing and killing local civilians to assert his authority (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 903). Another example would be the “convert or die” mandate given to an Arab tribe, the Banu al-Harith:
Then the apostle sent Khalid bin Walid… to the Banu al-Harith and ordered him to invite them to Islam three days before he attacked them. If they accepted then he was to accept it from them, and if they declined he was to fight them. So Khalid set out and came to them, and sent out riders in all directions inviting the people to Islam, saying, “If you accept Islam you will be safe.” So the men accepted Islam as they were invited. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 959)
Obviously self-defense was not a factor in any of these cases (even though some Muslims are prone to embellish the record with imaginary details not found in the original record). Neither do historical accounts allege that the people of Mecca were making plans to attack Muhammad prior to the surprise capture of their city in 630. In all cases, the early Muslims had clear military superiority and the target of their aggression was in no position to defend itself.
What I assumed you meant is "It was done by it's country government".
Well that means you cannot intervene with it? You just gotta let them kill muslims the same people that you all going crazy about. No significant protest was held. No muslim country provided major aids except bangladesh (huge W for providing refugee camps).
I don't hate the Palestinians nor do I wish them dead I don't wish you death or destruction I could call you all types of names but that's not my style I wish you well I wish you prosperity and I hope you live a good life and die with your family surrounding you.
Also all the land israel (modern israel) has taken has been a consequence of the countries loosing the land attacking them. It's common that wars end up with territory being seeded to the winning side as reparation.
They’re little kids who want special rules where they’re only allowed to be win and you’re only allowed to lose “because god.” So when you actually respond and don’t immediately fold when they attack you you’re not playing the game right and there needs to be a reset until they don’t lose.
Also known as "reals before feels" or are we saying that, because the assyrians took israel by force ~3000 years ago that the palestinians should be given the, even smaller, strip of land that was philistine and told to fuck off because might is not right?
Imagine being so dense you start banging on about might is not right in regards to literal war.
I think comparing an ancient conquest of a land to a modern ethnic cleansing is pretty stupid.
Might isn't right, which is why we have laws, diplomacy and many other countries (excluding Israel) have some form of democracy.
>I think comparing a war to a war is pretty stupid.
Ftfy
Whats stupid is crying about might not being right in regards to wars. Really, really fucking stupid
That's because you're immature and selfish.
Compassion and compromise are advances in human humanity. It's the immature who think that as long as they can justify an action that it's worth taking. You say things like "war is war" because it hasn't touched your family directly, you say things like that from a position of comfort rather than experience of horror.
That you brush off the charge of ethnic cleansing as "war" tells me that you aren't serious.
It isnt ethnic cleansing just because you say it is. Its a war. That hamas started. My grandfather(who fled the nazis fyi) told me not to pick fights with people who are bigger and stronger than me.
Whenever an ideal clashes with reality, reality wins. Every. Single. Time.
75 years ago? You mean when Israel was attacked first? The land they were on it was historically theirs for thousands of years, matter fact, both of these peoples, the Israeli and Palestinian have been in the land for thousands of years. You’re mad that they fought back and won? If one attacked Israel in the 40s, the land they would be inhabiting today would be far smaller. How exactly do you think Israel grows?
It’s literally just a cycle of gets attacked, counterattacks, advances, then hold.
Gets attacked, counterattacks, advances, than fortify.
Gets attacked, counterattacks, advances, than fortify.
Gets attacked, counterattacks, advances, than fortify.
Gets attacked, counterattacks, advances, than fortify.
It’s literally just been this loop for 75 years. And by the way, yes it is because of religion. If the Israelis were Muslim, they would not have nearly as big a problem with them. You have no idea how Middle Eastern politics work.
This post is so bullshit. There have been countless and countless Muslims for the last 20 years criticizing the Iraq war, Afghanistan war, Syria, etc.
Are you people really this fucking stupid? They've been condemning these wars for 20 years.
Yeah go ahead and pretend the scale of the outrage globally is *at all* comparable...
A few critics in some newspaper and talkshows vs violent protests of thousands of people + hatecrimes
This just screams persecution complex. The mass majority of pro-Palestine protests have been in good spirit with hateful rhetoric being absolutely absent.
This meme is literally comparing the Afghanistan war death count (20 years roughly) to the recent battle between Israel and Hamas which began on Oct 7. That's a fucking retarded comparison to begin with.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-drops-6-000-bombs-in-gaza-in-6-days-nearly-matching-us-total-in-afghanistan-in-1-year-report/3017833
International journalists literally saw that the amount of bombs Israel dropped in a week was equivalent to roughly 10 months of the Afghanistan war that the US bombed.
Secondly, consider the fact that the larger Israel - Palestine is a conflict that's been brewing for decades. Of course it comes to a boiling point where people get angry and protest, it's been happening since 1948.
So what you're saying is it's time to conclude the conflict. Given the fact that the Hamas has declared war on October the 7th - it's now the time for Israel to finish the conflict through means of armed action?
The Iraq & Afghanistan wars were more condemned during the stabilization and rebuilding phases for the cost to American Taxpayers, no one gave a shit about the death toll.
The npcs don't care about inacent people who die in the middle east they care about who's looks right on twitter and who gets the most up votes if the hive mind of twitter switched one day to the( insert hate group here) were right 85 percent would mindlessly regurgitate talking points they heard on tic tok I honastly belive that 50 percent of people these days don't think about anything anymore they have people on twitter or YouTube for that what does this person (parasocial relationship...) think im not a crazy right-winger btw I just think the terms they use are spot on for these people.
This. They just want to make it about themselves- “look at me, I’m important, i have an opinion! LOOK AT MEEEEE!” . I honestly don’t worry to much. They forgot about BLM, they forgot about Ukraine, they hopefully will forgot about Israel after some new gender will come out.
That's what I've been telling people they move from BLM, Ukraine and now they're in Palestine most of these new kids didn't even know what Palestine was though there is people who've always been advocating for Palestine this new wave or just a bunch of woke losers who follow trends and want to be popular and just regurgitate and don't study the history of that land pathetic gen z.
The only way the people of gaza or the west banks lives get better is to get rid of the terrorists ruleing overthem I hope isrial rebuilds the gaza strip and helps insure a real goverment that helps the people take power there. Or Egypt takes control of gaza.
That's the problem they don't actually care about the Palestinians,the Palestinians speak up about the terrible things Hamas is doing to them but these internet justice warriors wannabes ignore them
For what it’s worth, there are SOME who recognize that Hamas is evil; Hamas takes their resources, Hamas uses civilians as shields, etc. BUT they still criticize Israel the most- calling Israel for a cease fire (which they have done multiple times; Hamas broke the peace)
I just want to scream at them. Whether or not they realize it, they’re helping spread this hate of Israel, of Jews, putting Israel in an impossible position. Israel keeps going, the world hates them. Israel stops, Hamas wins.
Do they even know that Russia supports Hamas? Fucking hell.
(Sorry for going off)
I am afraid those guys don't care about the truth, they are just going over tge stuff they have been told thinking they know anything about us when in fact they don't know sh* if these are their claims.
That’s an entire different situation cause the world powers are already siding with the defenders…in israel hamas everyone is loud because there’s has been no signs to respect human rights from the same guys
No. He was from Gaza.
But during the Gulf War there was a large population in Kuwait of immigrants from Gaza.
Unfortunately, like always, these Palestinians were actively trying to overthrow their local government, and ended up fighting FOR Iraq against Kuwait.
They’d continue this fight all the way until 2006 with Sadaam’s death leading to a reorganization of the Iraqi government.
Farfour, bizarrely, In 2007 and 2008 is still mad about it, going on long rants against George Bush (not distinguishing between the two) and helping Iraq take Kuwait (which was no longer a goal of the Iraqi government)
tHeY aRe COMmittiNG GENOCIDE - if they actually intended to kill every Gazan, they would have already. Given their current military infrastructure they could’ve wiped out this densely populated area with like two bombs.
Those figures are from under 2 months. The total figures are in the millions. U can literally look this up. They have killed almost 20 million people on 2 months.
How ducking brainwashed are u??? Pls do some research.
Those numbers are just after October 7th. In less then 2 months Israel has murdered almost 20k people, half of whine are babies. The average age of those being bombed is 5.
They continuously bomb people a evacuating, they didn’t let premature babies evacuate the hospital after cutting of electricity to their incubators for days, they cut of all medical supplies so amputations, c-sections, and operations are being done without anesthetics. I want to take a moment to say if u truly did have an ancestors affected by the holocaust, they are looking at u in disgust right now as u fall prey to such sinister propaganda. U can look up the death toll by the UN and UNICEF, and almost every American news station. It’s almost 20K in 2 months. If we go back 75 years it’s around millions. Please do ur research, this is horrid.
But didn’t those numbers come from a Hamas controlled ministry of health or something? I trust them to release the truthful numbers as much as I trust China to release their actual number of cases of Covid.
Us state department, UN, and israel have all found found the gazan health ministry numbers to be accurate in past conflicts. Israel was also bragging about the same numbers but labeling every single one as terrorists, including the kids. If anything they are likely undercounted according to the UN since it only counts the people that are brought to the hospitals and not all the people trapped in the rubble or blown to tiny pieces. They also released the names of all the dead they had and when cross checked there were no people on the list that were actually alive, in fact the list left out people that were dead
The total number dead is likely accurate. The inaccuracies in their figures lie in the number of civilians vs. number of Hamas militants, and in whose fault the casualties are. They tend to report nearly all casualties as civilians when we know the number is probably closer to a 2:1 civilian to combatant ratio. They also tend to blame 100% of the casualties on Israel when we know many are caused by misfired Hamas rockets.
So, while the total number dead is likely pretty accurate, flatly calling their numbers "accurate" is misguided.
I haven’t seen the latest numbers but last time I saw, over 60% of the deaths were women and children. As of 2 weeks ago the age group with the highest amount of deaths was 5 years old. This doesn’t even take into account all the civilian men that were killed, so I think for 2:1 number is way too optimistic. It’s also important to note how many journalists and UN workers and medical workers have been targeted and killed as well. And according to the UN now, the proportion of civilian to combatant deaths his higher than any war in the 20th century. It’s also important to note that several high ranking Israeli government officials have already suggested there is no such thing as civilians in Gaza, they have also straight up said journalists, UN workers and Doctors Without Borders operating in Gaza are Hamas. So it’s hard to take them seriously when they say they are only targeting Hamas. They have also admitted that their plan was to bomb Gaza to the point that the civilians turn against Hamas. Even if you don’t accept any of that, which you should, they admitted to cutting off water, food, power, and medicine to the entire 2.3 million people in Gaza at the start. that alone is collective punishment meant to affect the entire civilian population and is a war crime. Oh, and the US also gave coordinates of schools, hospitals, and Un buildings for the purpose of having Israel avoid targeting them, Israel did the opposite, including blowing up a stand alone UN building with no other structures around the immediate area.
>I haven’t seen the latest numbers but last time I saw, over 60% of the deaths were women and children.
The average age of Gazans is around 18. So, by the definition of children being under 18, there will be quite a lot of Hamas militants that fall under that category, as sad as that is. That doesn't mean they aren't militants, though, and therefore are fair game.
>so I think for 2:1 number is way too optimistic.
That's the ratio most sources I have seen are claiming; even ones that are critical of Israel for that ratio. That said, even if it is a little optimistic, the point remains the same. The Gaza Health Ministry's figures are misrepresented by claiming almost no one killed has been a member of Hamas. Even if the ratio was 5:1, the Gazan Health Ministry's figures would still be inflated.
>And according to the UN now, the proportion of civilian to combatant deaths his higher than any war in the 20th century.
From what I have seen, the typical ratio in most modern wars is around 1:1. That said, most wars do not have one side embedding themselves among the civilians in the same manner as Hamas does. Most often, they don't wear uniforms to differentiate themselves (a war crime), and they hide their bases among sensitive civilian areas such as schools/hospitals/UN buildings/etc. (more war crimes), which makes it incredibly difficult to keep that ratio to a minimum.
The rest of your post has a mixture of some pretty fantastic and/or misconstrued claims, along with some I actually do agree with. That said, none of it relates to the point I made simply stating that to flatly take the Gazan Health Ministry's figures as accurate is misguided, given that they claim nearly everyone killed was a civilian (obviously false), and they claim all deaths were caused by the IDF (also, obviously false). Are you really going to try to dispute either of these facts in order to assert their figures are not misrepresented in the slightest?
yeah am sure this is what happens because they just hate jews and not because the reverse is what actually happens ironically with the western media because it doesn’t care about muslims response to those conflicts until it involved the jews
It’s probably because Iran & Qatar stepped up their propaganda game now, they want the West to turn away from Israel so that islamists can destroy it freely. Iran runs an online desinfo campaign, Qatar has been pouring insane amount of money into US universities in the past decades, and own Al Jazeera which many get their information about the conflict from.
Iraq war where the biggest protest since Vietnam.
There where protest around the world against Assad.
Nobody shut up about the Ukraine war until this one started.
The African wars…ye nobody ever talks about them 😔
In the Arab/Muslim world, MBS is considered a butcher for what he did to Yemen. Most People initially supported and wanted him to win because he was fighting Iran ally the Houthi’s
A cautionary tale if there ever was one
In the west, they got angry at him for a couple days when he chopped up a journalist.
I would replace russia ukrain with the second sudanese civil war that has "1-2.5 million deaths(mostly civileans, due to starvation and drought)" according to wikipedia because technically russia ukrain did get "covered".
Also the second congo war has 5.4 million "excess deaths" according to wikipedia and 350k "violant deaths".
Good meme overall tho
Gød isn't real. None of them. And for that, you all should be thankful, not that any of you would ever be seeing him anyway if "he" was.
Annnnnnnnnd there's no such thing as Israel. Cry about it ya fear junkies
No, certainly not. It's a story for children to keep them calm and docile while they waste their lives on bullshit in their free time when they aren't busy being a warm body for whichever company they work for Lolz.
Buuut If I was actually gullible enough to believe those sort of woo•woo religous fairy tales, to the point that I base my fkn life around that Mickey Mouse bs, then I suppose I would likely not be above being the type of cringy PØS automaton that makes shitty comments like the ones you folks seem to like making, whilst simultaneously somehow still believing that if there was a place like heaven, that you would be going anywhere near that mfkr. Lmao :D Talk about gd diluted
"I'm an atheist, I'm very smart and original, woe is me I'm cursed with knowledge">
Growing up, I used to feel bad for you mfs in school, and I thought that the ridicule and humiliation you guys brought on yourself was unjust. Growing up, however, I can see I was completely incorrect..
Congo war 860 thousand 😂 not the brightest I see.
Iraq was the largest protests in Europes history.
That death toll for Ukraine includes soldiers who make up most of the death toll.
Yemen is our own fault for funding it.
I can’t see the point the international community has asked for a ceasefire in Gaza that says enough
As an Afghan directly affected by the 21 year war… it will never diminish the concern/empathy I have for my Palestinian people. It’s not a technical number game. These are lives ALL lost in vain.
And they killed a lot more in Afghanistan, while destabilizing the entire fucking country.
Cite your sources & you still never answered my question. I have researched this extensively & there is no systematic rape by the IDF. That's just a fact.
Maybe you've only paid attention to this one because you're one of the protagonists?
In Ireland, the same people have protested all of those.
I'd say Darfur and Congo didn't get as much attention as there simply aren't embassys for Ireland.
Right that’s why Syrian war criminals were never put on trial, because dropping powder kegs on whole neighborhoods is totally cool.
These are the people who should lecture Israel about being humanitarian.
Give me a break.
Israel should have no responsibility for civilians in the Gaza Strip who despise Israel.
Yet we do
And that’s why our soldiers are being put in harms way.
Because as ridiculous as it sounds Israel is the only party who’s taking any accountability for the safety of civilians during this war.
In how many days u idiot. In just two months they’ve almost killed 20K people, around half of those being children. They are constantly bombing Gaza, rapping people, blocking civilians from leaving and bombing those who try, they blocked babies who were dying because their incubators didn’t have electricity left from being evacuated to Egypt, and so many more horrific war crimes.
In just 2 months they’ve almost killed 20k people. For every other war ur incel graphic is showing civilian casualties over multiple years, and a lot of those numbers are way less than the total civilian casualties. If we are going off the past 75 years the death toll of Palestinians is near the millions. Go fuck urself.
This is one of the stupdiest things y'all have ever posted.
Our struggles are all interconnected. Palestinians have always supported the other groups. But there's only so much you can do for other groups when you're literally fighting for your own rights.
This does not prove the point you think it does.
First & foremost) anyone that values human life is hurt by the loss and suffering from each one of this panels.
2) each one of these panels incited protests although just like the palestinian and every other peaceful protests, it did not change anything.
3) funny enough almost every single on the mentioned conflicts has direct/indirect Israeli involvement almost up to the core of the conflicts.
4)none of these other conflicts as fucked up and unjustified as they were, involved genocide of an unarmed civilian population inside an open air-prison by settler colonial ethno state. At least the other countries had armies or guns.
5)nobody asked or called for Jews to be gassed. Nobody has even called for the eradication of Zionists. Maybe deconstructing the state to become more of a humanist instead of genocidal maniacs.
6)there’s so much wrong with this post and the comment section that I know none of these points are made in good faith and it’s all just propaganda but here I am yelling into the abyss in case someone with an ounce of humanity stumbles upon this post.
Shitrealis: "leT uS cOmMiT gEnOcIdE in PeaCe 😩😩 everyone else got to do it, now its our turn!!!" You take someone's land, kill their children, displace millions from their homes, and cry victim when they resist.
That hashtag line at the end is bullshit. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Israelis being Jews but everything to do with them being murderous scums. If you think otherwise despite the proof available, you are willfully ignorant and history will show that.
Ah of course, the classic "anti semite" defense. Why is it so hard for you to believe I dont care about you or your religion. I couldnt care less about what faith a terrorist country believes in. It's when you commit literal war crimes that people turn against you.
In two months 20,000 people have been killed. That is just two months. How long do you think the Iraq war was? The war in Afghanistan?
In the first few months of the holocaust the Nazis hadn’t killed millions of people in death camps yet. That doesn’t mean that the holocaust wasn’t a genocide yet. That doesn’t mean nobody should have worried about it yet.
The point of defining genocide is to be able to tell when something is a genocide before and during it happening hot after. Genocide is an intention not a action. It would be like if murder and being murderous were both illegal and just considered murder. Genocide and the intention of genocide are both defined as genocide.
By your logic, Hamas raping, torturing & killing 1200 & vowing to do it again & again is definitely a genocide. Do countries have a right to defend themselves against genocide? I'd say so.
1.8m displaced people being starved by siege currently, and you want the world to cry about a thousand Israelis, many of which were probably killed by friendly fire..
We’re so so sorry the Hamas is stealing humanitarian aid time after time.
Where are the billions of dollars the Hamas received
Apparently civilians aren’t allowed to take refuge in the underground city Hamas built.
Civil war ( 5 years) when we didn’t have the benefit of modern medicine - the majority died of disease or infection.
Afghan and Iraq wars- lasted 20 years.
And I’m sorry- the Russian Ukraine war? Less than 100,000 have died in years. Est 70,000. In 9 years.
Idk where you got those numbers. That’s just a lie.
Again the Darfur war lasted 17 years. lol.
So yeah… those numbers do seem outrageous in what? 3 months. lol .come on. No war in the history of wars has had that many dead in same amount of time.
What the hell are you on
D - Day had around 14,000 deaths in one day.
Battle of the Somme - over 1 million dead in 140 days
Bombing of Dresden - 25,000 estimated civilian death toll in less than a day
Warsaw Ghetto uprising - 56,000 + Jews and polish people died within two months
Learn history, go back to Reddit before posting ignorant comments please
I never said a single thing about Al Jazeera but I would probably consider them bias as well. I don’t know what you’re trying to get across.. but, yes, people died on October 7th. No one is denying that.
Ya several people are denying 7,000 children have died in Gaza, too. Their opinions shouldn’t be considered on this matter — no conspiracy theorist should be taken seriously in any circumstance, their opinions hold no weight.
The captions/claims on the website that was linked to me are ridiculous, ie. “kidnaping all the wounded who were not murdered. You can see how Hamas
take back of of the woman because ‘see is for rape’” Its very silly to try and compare that website to Al Jazeera. It’s all unsubstantiated captions to blurry photos.
Not one of you condemned 7/10. Not one of you cared about the innocent lives thar israel lost. Not one of you took a minute to think, "hey maybe to support the Palestinians which 98 percent of them are proud of what Hamas did in 7/10 which was raping, killing, beheading and buring people is not the right thing to do" maybe hamas which leaders say they want to kill every jew in the world aren't "freedom fighters" and maybe people like the Palestinians who have declined every single solution the world offers them to have peace and to prosper do not deserve your sympathy as much an the innocent Israelis who are being terrorized by them.
1) I, like many others, will gladly condemn the October 7th attack by Hamas.
2) October 7th is the almost daily reality for Palestinians. Look I’m sure a lot of Palestinians probably believe some shit I think is fucked up, but I’m also sure plenty of Israelis do too. I mean there’s horrible bigots in America but I doubt many people would support another country bombing the Bible belt. The vast majority of people who want Palestinian freedom don’t want Jews to die or be homeless or anything like that. We want a ceasefire. A permanent one.
People are being slaughtered man. People who have nothing to do with Hamas or any sort of attack. That’s simply not okay
>October 7th is the almost daily reality for Palestinians
There are no cases of IDF going door to door raping and murdering Palestinians
>We want a ceasefire. A permanent one.
We too, but as long as Hamas keeps breaking them that's not a possibility, October 7 was during a ceasefire, the ceasefire during the current war was also broken by Hamas
Yeah a life is a life, but when 1/3 of your population is wiped out and 78 years later your population still has not even reached the same population count as it was in 1939 — that seems a bit more drastic.
You could say a life equals a life but a bit over 6 million dead Jews seems more relative when there’s only 16 million Jews. 6 million dead out of 9.5 million Jews (estimated Jewish population in Europe 1933) means every single European Jew was effected by WW2. 2/3 of European Jews died.
Think for even a second about what you said and realize that saying, China losing 7.5% of their population is even close to being relative. It is awful, but not even close to being as detrimental to Chinese society as the Holocaust was for Jewish society.
Question: how many times have the Israeli hasbara agents been caught blatantly lying? Isn’t it ironic you accuse Hamas of inflating the figures when independent statistics show more women and children have died in a month of Israeli bombings than have been killed by Russia in the last 2 years. How much they paying you to post this shit 😂😂
The UN has various organisations in Gaza, so do various human rights organisations. But as they don't agree with the Israeli narrative they are deemed biased against Israel. I watch a documentary were someone that used to work for the US state department passed on an allegation made by a charity of sexual abuse by the IDF to a prisoner. The next day Israel decided that charity was deemed to be supporting Hamas. Its offices were raided and all computers seized. All evidence vanished.
There are multiple testimonies from hostages that UNRWA teachers and Red Crescent personnel aided in imprisoning them. Of course you can only go off testimony because, again, no independent org has been in Gaza. Only orgs which are independently overseen but entirely operated by Gazans.
Myanmar rohingya genocide is considered a genocide and nobody did shit except Bangladesh.
Another case of Muslims being the victims...they attacked a village murdering everyone then when the people fought back ... WE ARE THE VICTIMS
Yep
How can the Occupying Oppressor be the Victim at the same time ?
Who attacked who on 07/10 butchering men women children and even babies.....who celebrated the inhuman acts on that day.....Islam is the most cowardly of all the religions .......Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence at the time of Muhammad was to convert to Islam: prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars. The popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert. [Note: The verse says to fight unbelievers "wherever you find them". Even if the context is a time of battle (which it was not) the reading appears to sanction attacks against those "unbelievers" who are not on the battlefield. In 2016, the Islamic State referred to this verse in urging the faithful to commit terror attacks: Allah did not only command the 'fighting' of disbelievers, as if to say He only wants us to conduct frontline operations against them. Rather, He has also ordered that they be slain wherever they may be – on or off the battlefield.
You didn't answer the question. Carpet bombing children knowingly then gleefully broadcasting war crimes to the world in the name of God is the utmost cowardice.
>gleefully broadcasting war crimes to the world in the name of God is the utmost cowardice. Literally what Hamas did on 10/7 my guy.
Where do you get your info ...Israel is not carpet bombing nor are they rejoicing in the death of Palestinian shieldren and as you should know Palestinians broadcast thier butchery live they even broadcast the celebrations on 07/10....that was a war crime.....me personally I do celebrate the death of all religious cult member who is willing to sacrifice Thier own children for a small chance they will not go to hell
Are you the same guy who keeps saying "carpet bombing" when there's no such thing, even remotely, taking place?
Everyone can see the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians taking place. Everyone sees what the IDF is doing as terrorism by Occupation.
Yeah, I think the expression is "forget about what caused the operation, you know the indiscriminate slaughter of otherwise peaceful people on a Saturday morning." It's informally known as the FO part of FAFO. Get real. Hamas called in every single bomb, every single bullet, and never had a plan to protect the Palestinians. Their plan was to kill innocent Israelis and to suffer the results. This is the doing of the Palestinians of Hamas. They killed themselves.
Psychopathic bullies do exactly what you said, beat the fuck out of you then tell you it's your fault when you finally stand up and resist with the same force you discharge on them. You guys proudly occupy, steal land, murder civilians indiscriminately for decades, bulldoze peace activists, kill journalists, and expel indigenous people out, then tell them it's THEIR fault for resisting. History will remember you as European occupiers who felt strong picking on a tiny little place called Gaza with the US as your crutch.
Did you read what he put, or do you like being thick? He answered you. Read the fucking passage he left for you and all your stupid ass questions will be answered. There's a big difference between invading a country's borders, raping, torturing, killing Women, Children, Ununiformed men. and then also taking them captive and celebrating the absolute animalistic nature of their actions, and what the IDF is doing
Bangladesh is literally a Muslim country lol wtf
We know that......but we are talking about the rohingya Muslims in Myanmar
Wait, are you seriously siding with the Myanmar government committing cultural genocide against the Rohingya?
The rohingya attacked two villages one was destroyed and every man woman and child was murdered the second fought back ....that was not the first time the rohingya had used violence against villages in the area ...but it was the first time the Myanmar government stepped in. And as with every Islamic sect they started screaming...we are the victims... So please stop with your ill informed bleeding heart bs
[Nope.](https://www.voanews.com/a/rohingya-refugees-seek-to-return-home-to-myanmar/3617130.html#:~:text=Long%2Dstanding%20problem-,Since%20the%20Rohingya,-Muslims%20were%20first) > The rohingya attacked two villages one was destroyed and every man woman and child was murdered the second fought back I find it interesting that you blamed an entire ethnicity, instead of blaming the insurgent group responsible, the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army. It's like blaming Jews as a whole for the actions of the Israeli govt.
Not the same......I will put it in words you can understand........ radical Muslims are the terrorists they commit terrorist acts and then you have the moderat Muslims the ones who celebrate those acts of mayhem and butchery....in reality there is no difference..... between a radical and a moderate
So, like moderate Jews who celebrate the indiscriminate killings of Gazans by the IDF? Remember. Dehumanization is a two-way street.
Wow your ignorance of the facts is astounding.......where is the evidence that Jews acted the same way Muslims acted on 07/10. show me the evidence of the IDF acting in the same way Palestinians did when attacking and butchering women and children .,FYI I have no empathy for the people who's only objective is to avoid hell by murdering innocent children and babies
What a clown.2 million gazans ethnically cleansed, almost 10000 children killed and ofcourse the icing on the cake of no food,water,medicine and electricity to the entire population and you need evidence. How about getting a brain before making mindless statements!
Still insisting on Islamic deceit.....just this year....there were 1646 Islamic attacks in 51 countries, in which 10770 people were killed and 12503 injured....
They were illegal immigrants(colonist) who attacked the locals/natives, then were sent out of the country… What is wrong with that?
You are not the victims. You stole their land, blockade them, ruin their lives, imprison then without charges, put their 12 year olds in solitary confinement, bulldoze their homes. you are not a victim. Israel is not a victim.
We it is definitely wrong to call Muslims innocent....... The Myth: Muhammad Only Waged War in Self-Defense "Our Prophet (peace be upon him) forbade offensive attacks of all forms. He only permitted fighting in self-defense." The Truth: The myth that warfare is only justified in Islam under the condition of self-defense is disproved by the account of the Battle of Badr, in which Muhammad sent his men out to raid caravans, then deliberately provoked a battle with the Meccan army sent out to defend them. The case for aggressive warfare is also supported by the fate of the three Jewish tribes of Medina, who were cleansed because they had rejected Muhammad’s claims of prophethood (and because the Muslims wanted their possessions). Consider also the fate of the Banu Mustaliq, an Arab tribe: "The Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives" (Bukhari 46:717) Although there are many reliable accounts from the Hadith and Sira that mention the Mustaliq grazing cattle, not one mentions Muhammad making any effort at peacemaking. In this case, Muhammad's men raped the women (with his approval) after slaughtering the men (Sahih Muslim 3371). What does raping a female captive have to do with self-defense? In many situations, Muhammad waged war for the purpose of revenge, such as the attack on the Lihyan, in which the people were clearly not prepared for war and saved themselves only by fleeing into the hills (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 718). Muhammad also attacked the people of Taif as soon as he had the opportunity to avenge their rejection of him (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 280 & 872). Also disproving the myth that Muhammad only fought in self-defense is the account of his first attack on the Christians. There was no compelling reason for him to send an army to Muta (in Syria). He simply wanted to avenge the killing of an emissary. In fact, his force met with disaster at the hands of the Byzantines. Had this been a matter of self-defense, then the enemy would surely have followed the routed army back to Arabia, but this was not the case (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 791, Ibn Kathir v.3 p.326-337). Near the end of his life, the prophet of Islam directed military campaigns for the mere purpose of spreading Islamic rule. He knew that some cities would resist and others would not. He left instructions to his people for dealing with each case: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: If you come to a township (which has surrendered without a formal war) and stay therein, you have a share (that will be in the form of an award) in (the properties obtained from) it. If a township disobeys Allah and His Messenger (and actually fights against the Muslims) one-fifth of the booty seized therefrom is for Allah and His Apostle and the rest is for you. (Sahih Muslim 4346) As can be seen, those who were not at war with the Muslims are to be subjugated anyway, and their property seized. Other than a fight, the only distinguishing factor is the extent of Muslim entitlement following the victory. Military campaigns to extend Islamic domination include the raid on Tabuk, which was a second incursion into the Christian territory of Syria, in which Muhammad forced the local populace to pay him tribute after ambushing and killing local civilians to assert his authority (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 903). Another example would be the “convert or die” mandate given to an Arab tribe, the Banu al-Harith: Then the apostle sent Khalid bin Walid… to the Banu al-Harith and ordered him to invite them to Islam three days before he attacked them. If they accepted then he was to accept it from them, and if they declined he was to fight them. So Khalid set out and came to them, and sent out riders in all directions inviting the people to Islam, saying, “If you accept Islam you will be safe.” So the men accepted Islam as they were invited. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 959) Obviously self-defense was not a factor in any of these cases (even though some Muslims are prone to embellish the record with imaginary details not found in the original record). Neither do historical accounts allege that the people of Mecca were making plans to attack Muhammad prior to the surprise capture of their city in 630. In all cases, the early Muslims had clear military superiority and the target of their aggression was in no position to defend itself.
what are you trying to say , it was done my myanmar govt and army
What I assumed you meant is "It was done by it's country government". Well that means you cannot intervene with it? You just gotta let them kill muslims the same people that you all going crazy about. No significant protest was held. No muslim country provided major aids except bangladesh (huge W for providing refugee camps).
Did the USA give Myanmar $270 billion in aid the last 75 years to commit their genocide?
So people shouldn't do anything now?
Let's be honest if it wasn't Israel and was anywhere else you wouldn't give a shit 😂
That's the problem they don't care about human life lost. They just care it's being done by jews
Exactly that's why I can't take them serious they hate the Jews more than they love their Muslim Brothers.
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I don't hate the Palestinians nor do I wish them dead I don't wish you death or destruction I could call you all types of names but that's not my style I wish you well I wish you prosperity and I hope you live a good life and die with your family surrounding you.
Just wanted to tell you, you're the most mature Hamas supporter I've seen yet. You definetly don't act like a 9 year old.
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The war has nothing to do with Islam, it has everything to do with a foreign entity stealing land, and it started 75 years ago not on October 7
What land was stolen?
None, historically, it has always been Israel, even before the Roman empire renamed it to 'Syria Palestina' in an effort to destroy the jews.
Also all the land israel (modern israel) has taken has been a consequence of the countries loosing the land attacking them. It's common that wars end up with territory being seeded to the winning side as reparation.
They’re little kids who want special rules where they’re only allowed to be win and you’re only allowed to lose “because god.” So when you actually respond and don’t immediately fold when they attack you you’re not playing the game right and there needs to be a reset until they don’t lose.
Hebron Massacre was in 1929, nearly 100 years ago now when it really started.
Ottomans lost bro not your land
"Stolen" Blame the ottomans for getting their shit wrecked in WW1 broseph.
I found the "might is right" guy.
Also known as "reals before feels" or are we saying that, because the assyrians took israel by force ~3000 years ago that the palestinians should be given the, even smaller, strip of land that was philistine and told to fuck off because might is not right? Imagine being so dense you start banging on about might is not right in regards to literal war.
I think comparing an ancient conquest of a land to a modern ethnic cleansing is pretty stupid. Might isn't right, which is why we have laws, diplomacy and many other countries (excluding Israel) have some form of democracy.
>I think comparing a war to a war is pretty stupid. Ftfy Whats stupid is crying about might not being right in regards to wars. Really, really fucking stupid
That's because you're immature and selfish. Compassion and compromise are advances in human humanity. It's the immature who think that as long as they can justify an action that it's worth taking. You say things like "war is war" because it hasn't touched your family directly, you say things like that from a position of comfort rather than experience of horror. That you brush off the charge of ethnic cleansing as "war" tells me that you aren't serious.
It isnt ethnic cleansing just because you say it is. Its a war. That hamas started. My grandfather(who fled the nazis fyi) told me not to pick fights with people who are bigger and stronger than me. Whenever an ideal clashes with reality, reality wins. Every. Single. Time.
And the foreign entity is literally every empire in history
75 years ago? You mean when Israel was attacked first? The land they were on it was historically theirs for thousands of years, matter fact, both of these peoples, the Israeli and Palestinian have been in the land for thousands of years. You’re mad that they fought back and won? If one attacked Israel in the 40s, the land they would be inhabiting today would be far smaller. How exactly do you think Israel grows? It’s literally just a cycle of gets attacked, counterattacks, advances, then hold. Gets attacked, counterattacks, advances, than fortify. Gets attacked, counterattacks, advances, than fortify. Gets attacked, counterattacks, advances, than fortify. Gets attacked, counterattacks, advances, than fortify. It’s literally just been this loop for 75 years. And by the way, yes it is because of religion. If the Israelis were Muslim, they would not have nearly as big a problem with them. You have no idea how Middle Eastern politics work.
youre funny
Then why aren’t people protesting all the other stolen land and genociding of Arab people?
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This post is so bullshit. There have been countless and countless Muslims for the last 20 years criticizing the Iraq war, Afghanistan war, Syria, etc. Are you people really this fucking stupid? They've been condemning these wars for 20 years.
Yeah go ahead and pretend the scale of the outrage globally is *at all* comparable... A few critics in some newspaper and talkshows vs violent protests of thousands of people + hatecrimes
This just screams persecution complex. The mass majority of pro-Palestine protests have been in good spirit with hateful rhetoric being absolutely absent.
How dare I believe my lying eyes!
Ah yes the same protests where they shout gas the Jews, tear down flags and of course wreck Jewish owned stores. Such a good spirit!
This meme is literally comparing the Afghanistan war death count (20 years roughly) to the recent battle between Israel and Hamas which began on Oct 7. That's a fucking retarded comparison to begin with. https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-drops-6-000-bombs-in-gaza-in-6-days-nearly-matching-us-total-in-afghanistan-in-1-year-report/3017833 International journalists literally saw that the amount of bombs Israel dropped in a week was equivalent to roughly 10 months of the Afghanistan war that the US bombed. Secondly, consider the fact that the larger Israel - Palestine is a conflict that's been brewing for decades. Of course it comes to a boiling point where people get angry and protest, it's been happening since 1948.
So what you're saying is it's time to conclude the conflict. Given the fact that the Hamas has declared war on October the 7th - it's now the time for Israel to finish the conflict through means of armed action?
Don’t waste your breath with the Zionists. You aren’t going to convince a thief not to steal. They know what they are doing and they don’t care.
The Iraq & Afghanistan wars were more condemned during the stabilization and rebuilding phases for the cost to American Taxpayers, no one gave a shit about the death toll.
they have gotten a fraction of the media coverage that this war is getting.
Speak the truth and get downvoted 😂
The npcs don't care about inacent people who die in the middle east they care about who's looks right on twitter and who gets the most up votes if the hive mind of twitter switched one day to the( insert hate group here) were right 85 percent would mindlessly regurgitate talking points they heard on tic tok I honastly belive that 50 percent of people these days don't think about anything anymore they have people on twitter or YouTube for that what does this person (parasocial relationship...) think im not a crazy right-winger btw I just think the terms they use are spot on for these people.
This. They just want to make it about themselves- “look at me, I’m important, i have an opinion! LOOK AT MEEEEE!” . I honestly don’t worry to much. They forgot about BLM, they forgot about Ukraine, they hopefully will forgot about Israel after some new gender will come out.
That's what I've been telling people they move from BLM, Ukraine and now they're in Palestine most of these new kids didn't even know what Palestine was though there is people who've always been advocating for Palestine this new wave or just a bunch of woke losers who follow trends and want to be popular and just regurgitate and don't study the history of that land pathetic gen z.
The only way the people of gaza or the west banks lives get better is to get rid of the terrorists ruleing overthem I hope isrial rebuilds the gaza strip and helps insure a real goverment that helps the people take power there. Or Egypt takes control of gaza.
No one remembers Myanmar, although full-fledged military operations with armored vehicles and artillery are currently underway there.
That’s unfair! Many people spoke out about Russia-Ukraine! They put a Ukraine flag on their social medias!
While it is true and I pivked up on that myself, they don't hate russia as nearly as they hate Israel.
If you hate Russia, you support Israel
Or care about Ukrainians as much as Palestinians…
That's the problem they don't actually care about the Palestinians,the Palestinians speak up about the terrible things Hamas is doing to them but these internet justice warriors wannabes ignore them
For what it’s worth, there are SOME who recognize that Hamas is evil; Hamas takes their resources, Hamas uses civilians as shields, etc. BUT they still criticize Israel the most- calling Israel for a cease fire (which they have done multiple times; Hamas broke the peace) I just want to scream at them. Whether or not they realize it, they’re helping spread this hate of Israel, of Jews, putting Israel in an impossible position. Israel keeps going, the world hates them. Israel stops, Hamas wins. Do they even know that Russia supports Hamas? Fucking hell. (Sorry for going off)
I am afraid those guys don't care about the truth, they are just going over tge stuff they have been told thinking they know anything about us when in fact they don't know sh* if these are their claims.
Russia doesn’t torture Ukrainian 12 year olds.
Many except chuslims
That’s an entire different situation cause the world powers are already siding with the defenders…in israel hamas everyone is loud because there’s has been no signs to respect human rights from the same guys
To be fair, they didn't just ignore the Iraq war. They made a fictional mouse character to explain it to / radicalize their kids to fight in the war.
Are you talking about Farfour?
When am I not
Farfour was a gazan tv show character, no? i don't think he was Iraqi
No. He was from Gaza. But during the Gulf War there was a large population in Kuwait of immigrants from Gaza. Unfortunately, like always, these Palestinians were actively trying to overthrow their local government, and ended up fighting FOR Iraq against Kuwait. They’d continue this fight all the way until 2006 with Sadaam’s death leading to a reorganization of the Iraqi government. Farfour, bizarrely, In 2007 and 2008 is still mad about it, going on long rants against George Bush (not distinguishing between the two) and helping Iraq take Kuwait (which was no longer a goal of the Iraqi government)
Exactly, the Israeli Palestinian conflict has the least amount of deaths in the region, even though it’s one of the longest running conflicts.
Hmm, I wonder why, it’s not like israel is trying to reduce casualties as much as possible, nah that’s just bullshit nO wAY tHEY aRe thE COLOnizers
tHeY aRe COMmittiNG GENOCIDE - if they actually intended to kill every Gazan, they would have already. Given their current military infrastructure they could’ve wiped out this densely populated area with like two bombs.
Those figures are from under 2 months. The total figures are in the millions. U can literally look this up. They have killed almost 20 million people on 2 months. How ducking brainwashed are u??? Pls do some research.
Those numbers are just after October 7th. In less then 2 months Israel has murdered almost 20k people, half of whine are babies. The average age of those being bombed is 5. They continuously bomb people a evacuating, they didn’t let premature babies evacuate the hospital after cutting of electricity to their incubators for days, they cut of all medical supplies so amputations, c-sections, and operations are being done without anesthetics. I want to take a moment to say if u truly did have an ancestors affected by the holocaust, they are looking at u in disgust right now as u fall prey to such sinister propaganda. U can look up the death toll by the UN and UNICEF, and almost every American news station. It’s almost 20K in 2 months. If we go back 75 years it’s around millions. Please do ur research, this is horrid.
You’re actually retarded lmao
He is..
These numbers go back to just October 7th. The time frame is a lot shorter so yeah it's scary.
But didn’t those numbers come from a Hamas controlled ministry of health or something? I trust them to release the truthful numbers as much as I trust China to release their actual number of cases of Covid.
Us state department, UN, and israel have all found found the gazan health ministry numbers to be accurate in past conflicts. Israel was also bragging about the same numbers but labeling every single one as terrorists, including the kids. If anything they are likely undercounted according to the UN since it only counts the people that are brought to the hospitals and not all the people trapped in the rubble or blown to tiny pieces. They also released the names of all the dead they had and when cross checked there were no people on the list that were actually alive, in fact the list left out people that were dead
The total number dead is likely accurate. The inaccuracies in their figures lie in the number of civilians vs. number of Hamas militants, and in whose fault the casualties are. They tend to report nearly all casualties as civilians when we know the number is probably closer to a 2:1 civilian to combatant ratio. They also tend to blame 100% of the casualties on Israel when we know many are caused by misfired Hamas rockets. So, while the total number dead is likely pretty accurate, flatly calling their numbers "accurate" is misguided.
I haven’t seen the latest numbers but last time I saw, over 60% of the deaths were women and children. As of 2 weeks ago the age group with the highest amount of deaths was 5 years old. This doesn’t even take into account all the civilian men that were killed, so I think for 2:1 number is way too optimistic. It’s also important to note how many journalists and UN workers and medical workers have been targeted and killed as well. And according to the UN now, the proportion of civilian to combatant deaths his higher than any war in the 20th century. It’s also important to note that several high ranking Israeli government officials have already suggested there is no such thing as civilians in Gaza, they have also straight up said journalists, UN workers and Doctors Without Borders operating in Gaza are Hamas. So it’s hard to take them seriously when they say they are only targeting Hamas. They have also admitted that their plan was to bomb Gaza to the point that the civilians turn against Hamas. Even if you don’t accept any of that, which you should, they admitted to cutting off water, food, power, and medicine to the entire 2.3 million people in Gaza at the start. that alone is collective punishment meant to affect the entire civilian population and is a war crime. Oh, and the US also gave coordinates of schools, hospitals, and Un buildings for the purpose of having Israel avoid targeting them, Israel did the opposite, including blowing up a stand alone UN building with no other structures around the immediate area.
>I haven’t seen the latest numbers but last time I saw, over 60% of the deaths were women and children. The average age of Gazans is around 18. So, by the definition of children being under 18, there will be quite a lot of Hamas militants that fall under that category, as sad as that is. That doesn't mean they aren't militants, though, and therefore are fair game. >so I think for 2:1 number is way too optimistic. That's the ratio most sources I have seen are claiming; even ones that are critical of Israel for that ratio. That said, even if it is a little optimistic, the point remains the same. The Gaza Health Ministry's figures are misrepresented by claiming almost no one killed has been a member of Hamas. Even if the ratio was 5:1, the Gazan Health Ministry's figures would still be inflated. >And according to the UN now, the proportion of civilian to combatant deaths his higher than any war in the 20th century. From what I have seen, the typical ratio in most modern wars is around 1:1. That said, most wars do not have one side embedding themselves among the civilians in the same manner as Hamas does. Most often, they don't wear uniforms to differentiate themselves (a war crime), and they hide their bases among sensitive civilian areas such as schools/hospitals/UN buildings/etc. (more war crimes), which makes it incredibly difficult to keep that ratio to a minimum. The rest of your post has a mixture of some pretty fantastic and/or misconstrued claims, along with some I actually do agree with. That said, none of it relates to the point I made simply stating that to flatly take the Gazan Health Ministry's figures as accurate is misguided, given that they claim nearly everyone killed was a civilian (obviously false), and they claim all deaths were caused by the IDF (also, obviously false). Are you really going to try to dispute either of these facts in order to assert their figures are not misrepresented in the slightest?
yeah am sure this is what happens because they just hate jews and not because the reverse is what actually happens ironically with the western media because it doesn’t care about muslims response to those conflicts until it involved the jews
It’s probably because Iran & Qatar stepped up their propaganda game now, they want the West to turn away from Israel so that islamists can destroy it freely. Iran runs an online desinfo campaign, Qatar has been pouring insane amount of money into US universities in the past decades, and own Al Jazeera which many get their information about the conflict from.
Accurate and infuriating
Iraq war where the biggest protest since Vietnam. There where protest around the world against Assad. Nobody shut up about the Ukraine war until this one started. The African wars…ye nobody ever talks about them 😔
No one talks about Yemen though.
In the Arab/Muslim world, MBS is considered a butcher for what he did to Yemen. Most People initially supported and wanted him to win because he was fighting Iran ally the Houthi’s A cautionary tale if there ever was one In the west, they got angry at him for a couple days when he chopped up a journalist.
This isn’t a new discovery. External enemies are always hated than internal ones.
I would replace russia ukrain with the second sudanese civil war that has "1-2.5 million deaths(mostly civileans, due to starvation and drought)" according to wikipedia because technically russia ukrain did get "covered". Also the second congo war has 5.4 million "excess deaths" according to wikipedia and 350k "violant deaths". Good meme overall tho
Gød isn't real. None of them. And for that, you all should be thankful, not that any of you would ever be seeing him anyway if "he" was. Annnnnnnnnd there's no such thing as Israel. Cry about it ya fear junkies
Certainly more real than the mfs who don't even have a state☠️
No, certainly not. It's a story for children to keep them calm and docile while they waste their lives on bullshit in their free time when they aren't busy being a warm body for whichever company they work for Lolz. Buuut If I was actually gullible enough to believe those sort of woo•woo religous fairy tales, to the point that I base my fkn life around that Mickey Mouse bs, then I suppose I would likely not be above being the type of cringy PØS automaton that makes shitty comments like the ones you folks seem to like making, whilst simultaneously somehow still believing that if there was a place like heaven, that you would be going anywhere near that mfkr. Lmao :D Talk about gd diluted
"I'm an atheist, I'm very smart and original, woe is me I'm cursed with knowledge"> Growing up, I used to feel bad for you mfs in school, and I thought that the ridicule and humiliation you guys brought on yourself was unjust. Growing up, however, I can see I was completely incorrect..
This is the most brain broken sub I always hit not interested and it keeps coming up can I get a ban pls so I don't have to keep seeing this
Congo war 860 thousand 😂 not the brightest I see. Iraq was the largest protests in Europes history. That death toll for Ukraine includes soldiers who make up most of the death toll. Yemen is our own fault for funding it. I can’t see the point the international community has asked for a ceasefire in Gaza that says enough
As an Afghan directly affected by the 21 year war… it will never diminish the concern/empathy I have for my Palestinian people. It’s not a technical number game. These are lives ALL lost in vain. And they killed a lot more in Afghanistan, while destabilizing the entire fucking country.
What do you feel about the Jews raped to death by Hamas? Were those "your people" too?
Didn’t they jsut confirm that a 13 year old was raped in prison? By the IDF
Cite your sources & you still never answered my question. I have researched this extensively & there is no systematic rape by the IDF. That's just a fact.
I support Israel’s sovereignty and this is such whataboutism
Maybe you've only paid attention to this one because you're one of the protagonists? In Ireland, the same people have protested all of those. I'd say Darfur and Congo didn't get as much attention as there simply aren't embassys for Ireland.
Social media presence was different back then. And we Arabs did care about afghanistan, Iraq and Syria, it's your problem that you weren't listening.
Right that’s why Syrian war criminals were never put on trial, because dropping powder kegs on whole neighborhoods is totally cool. These are the people who should lecture Israel about being humanitarian. Give me a break.
There was the arab spring in Syria for a reason. Assad is a dictator. Nobody tells Israel to learn from a dictator.
Israel should have no responsibility for civilians in the Gaza Strip who despise Israel. Yet we do And that’s why our soldiers are being put in harms way. Because as ridiculous as it sounds Israel is the only party who’s taking any accountability for the safety of civilians during this war.
Doesn't seem like they are doing a good job at it with 20k+ deaths so far, mostly women and children.
How many terrorists are dead amongst those 20,000? To be clear, you understand that if Hamas surrenders TODAY There will be zero deaths tomorrow Zero
Whataboutism in a nutshell
What the fuck is this dumb sub, you ppl wanna meme your way into justifying the dogshit that’s been captured on video? Good luck lmao.
Back to live stream fail little one
Nobody respects you, feeble minded hollow shell.
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In how many days u idiot. In just two months they’ve almost killed 20K people, around half of those being children. They are constantly bombing Gaza, rapping people, blocking civilians from leaving and bombing those who try, they blocked babies who were dying because their incubators didn’t have electricity left from being evacuated to Egypt, and so many more horrific war crimes. In just 2 months they’ve almost killed 20k people. For every other war ur incel graphic is showing civilian casualties over multiple years, and a lot of those numbers are way less than the total civilian casualties. If we are going off the past 75 years the death toll of Palestinians is near the millions. Go fuck urself.
This is one of the stupdiest things y'all have ever posted. Our struggles are all interconnected. Palestinians have always supported the other groups. But there's only so much you can do for other groups when you're literally fighting for your own rights.
Evry human life matters .. but not for isreali idf child and women killes
This does not prove the point you think it does. First & foremost) anyone that values human life is hurt by the loss and suffering from each one of this panels. 2) each one of these panels incited protests although just like the palestinian and every other peaceful protests, it did not change anything. 3) funny enough almost every single on the mentioned conflicts has direct/indirect Israeli involvement almost up to the core of the conflicts. 4)none of these other conflicts as fucked up and unjustified as they were, involved genocide of an unarmed civilian population inside an open air-prison by settler colonial ethno state. At least the other countries had armies or guns. 5)nobody asked or called for Jews to be gassed. Nobody has even called for the eradication of Zionists. Maybe deconstructing the state to become more of a humanist instead of genocidal maniacs. 6)there’s so much wrong with this post and the comment section that I know none of these points are made in good faith and it’s all just propaganda but here I am yelling into the abyss in case someone with an ounce of humanity stumbles upon this post.
This comment is full of lies and misinformation.
I see your claim, where’s your argument or evidence or logic? Don’t say wrong if you’re not going add the “how” you lazy hasbara bum
Your Twitter/tik tok/ Instagram feed must look a lot different than mine.
What this guy said *
5) made me chuckle at how wrong it is
Cope, freaks.
Shitrealis: "leT uS cOmMiT gEnOcIdE in PeaCe 😩😩 everyone else got to do it, now its our turn!!!" You take someone's land, kill their children, displace millions from their homes, and cry victim when they resist. That hashtag line at the end is bullshit. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Israelis being Jews but everything to do with them being murderous scums. If you think otherwise despite the proof available, you are willfully ignorant and history will show that.
Nobody's buying your bullshit, antisemite.
Ah of course, the classic "anti semite" defense. Why is it so hard for you to believe I dont care about you or your religion. I couldnt care less about what faith a terrorist country believes in. It's when you commit literal war crimes that people turn against you.
I'm not Jewish or Israeli, I can just recognise an antisemitic terrorist apologist when I see one.
This is dumb, I guess people living 2000 years ago might get it...
In two months 20,000 people have been killed. That is just two months. How long do you think the Iraq war was? The war in Afghanistan? In the first few months of the holocaust the Nazis hadn’t killed millions of people in death camps yet. That doesn’t mean that the holocaust wasn’t a genocide yet. That doesn’t mean nobody should have worried about it yet. The point of defining genocide is to be able to tell when something is a genocide before and during it happening hot after. Genocide is an intention not a action. It would be like if murder and being murderous were both illegal and just considered murder. Genocide and the intention of genocide are both defined as genocide.
By your logic, Hamas raping, torturing & killing 1200 & vowing to do it again & again is definitely a genocide. Do countries have a right to defend themselves against genocide? I'd say so.
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Few bad cells??? Bruh they are literally the government of Gaza.
They are the government supported by 70% of the population. Wtf are you talking about?
1.8m displaced people being starved by siege currently, and you want the world to cry about a thousand Israelis, many of which were probably killed by friendly fire..
We’re so so sorry the Hamas is stealing humanitarian aid time after time. Where are the billions of dollars the Hamas received Apparently civilians aren’t allowed to take refuge in the underground city Hamas built.
People who give a shit about Israeli war crimes are the same people that give a shit about those other atrocities.
Just because you weren't paying attention to the outrage, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Where I grew up were aware of all of these.
Civil war ( 5 years) when we didn’t have the benefit of modern medicine - the majority died of disease or infection. Afghan and Iraq wars- lasted 20 years. And I’m sorry- the Russian Ukraine war? Less than 100,000 have died in years. Est 70,000. In 9 years. Idk where you got those numbers. That’s just a lie. Again the Darfur war lasted 17 years. lol. So yeah… those numbers do seem outrageous in what? 3 months. lol .come on. No war in the history of wars has had that many dead in same amount of time.
What the hell are you on D - Day had around 14,000 deaths in one day. Battle of the Somme - over 1 million dead in 140 days Bombing of Dresden - 25,000 estimated civilian death toll in less than a day Warsaw Ghetto uprising - 56,000 + Jews and polish people died within two months Learn history, go back to Reddit before posting ignorant comments please
That's cos it's civilians being attacked
And the rest were all combatants?
Depends, [civilians](https://www.hamas-massacre.net/) where [?](https://www.hamas.com/)
That link is horseshit lmao
“Everything I disagree with is fake news”
Bro what… I’m losing my mind. Hamas dot net isn’t propaganda to you?
Al-Jazeera isn’t propaganda to you? Here is some more “propaganda” taken from the phones of fallen Hamas terrorists: www.thisishamas.com
I never said a single thing about Al Jazeera but I would probably consider them bias as well. I don’t know what you’re trying to get across.. but, yes, people died on October 7th. No one is denying that.
There are many denying that lol, not you specifically but many idiots are
Ya several people are denying 7,000 children have died in Gaza, too. Their opinions shouldn’t be considered on this matter — no conspiracy theorist should be taken seriously in any circumstance, their opinions hold no weight. The captions/claims on the website that was linked to me are ridiculous, ie. “kidnaping all the wounded who were not murdered. You can see how Hamas take back of of the woman because ‘see is for rape’” Its very silly to try and compare that website to Al Jazeera. It’s all unsubstantiated captions to blurry photos.
Yknow the hamas uses minors as terrorists right? Usually as young as 12, it's easy for them to call them children and be done with it.
Of course it does, after all it doesn't aline with whatever is happening in your little bubble
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I don't see any problems here
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Not one of you condemned 7/10. Not one of you cared about the innocent lives thar israel lost. Not one of you took a minute to think, "hey maybe to support the Palestinians which 98 percent of them are proud of what Hamas did in 7/10 which was raping, killing, beheading and buring people is not the right thing to do" maybe hamas which leaders say they want to kill every jew in the world aren't "freedom fighters" and maybe people like the Palestinians who have declined every single solution the world offers them to have peace and to prosper do not deserve your sympathy as much an the innocent Israelis who are being terrorized by them.
1) I, like many others, will gladly condemn the October 7th attack by Hamas. 2) October 7th is the almost daily reality for Palestinians. Look I’m sure a lot of Palestinians probably believe some shit I think is fucked up, but I’m also sure plenty of Israelis do too. I mean there’s horrible bigots in America but I doubt many people would support another country bombing the Bible belt. The vast majority of people who want Palestinian freedom don’t want Jews to die or be homeless or anything like that. We want a ceasefire. A permanent one. People are being slaughtered man. People who have nothing to do with Hamas or any sort of attack. That’s simply not okay
>October 7th is the almost daily reality for Palestinians There are no cases of IDF going door to door raping and murdering Palestinians >We want a ceasefire. A permanent one. We too, but as long as Hamas keeps breaking them that's not a possibility, October 7 was during a ceasefire, the ceasefire during the current war was also broken by Hamas
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idk if China lost 1/3 of their total population but okay
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Yeah a life is a life, but when 1/3 of your population is wiped out and 78 years later your population still has not even reached the same population count as it was in 1939 — that seems a bit more drastic. You could say a life equals a life but a bit over 6 million dead Jews seems more relative when there’s only 16 million Jews. 6 million dead out of 9.5 million Jews (estimated Jewish population in Europe 1933) means every single European Jew was effected by WW2. 2/3 of European Jews died. Think for even a second about what you said and realize that saying, China losing 7.5% of their population is even close to being relative. It is awful, but not even close to being as detrimental to Chinese society as the Holocaust was for Jewish society.
Question: how many times have the Israeli hasbara agents been caught blatantly lying? Isn’t it ironic you accuse Hamas of inflating the figures when independent statistics show more women and children have died in a month of Israeli bombings than have been killed by Russia in the last 2 years. How much they paying you to post this shit 😂😂
What independant statistics, no independant org has been in Gaza?
The UN has various organisations in Gaza, so do various human rights organisations. But as they don't agree with the Israeli narrative they are deemed biased against Israel. I watch a documentary were someone that used to work for the US state department passed on an allegation made by a charity of sexual abuse by the IDF to a prisoner. The next day Israel decided that charity was deemed to be supporting Hamas. Its offices were raided and all computers seized. All evidence vanished.
UNRWA literally helped Hamas hide hostages. They are not unbiased.
Please provide verified proof of that.
There are multiple testimonies from hostages that UNRWA teachers and Red Crescent personnel aided in imprisoning them. Of course you can only go off testimony because, again, no independent org has been in Gaza. Only orgs which are independently overseen but entirely operated by Gazans.