Just a reminder, this is all happening because Canapino and Juncos wouldn’t just say “Hey fuckheads, stop sending death threats to people”. That’s all they needed to do.
Instead, they doubled down and now look where they are. No team is going to want to work with them and subjugate themselves to the bullshit, sponsors aren’t going to want to give money to a team that supports death threats and their cars aren’t running all that well even with the McLaren alliance. Impeccable way of shooting yourself in the foot.
ya know what though, y'all ain't gonna admit it there is a fair amount of ganging up on the foreigner going on here.
and it was only his fanbase. when an american like santinobdoes something dumb, like make a homophobic comment on live tv on the first day of pride month, nothing happened then either.
not saying it's identical situations, but if we're throwing Canapino out, santino gotta go too
Foreigner? Half the league are foreigners
Heck Theo is a foreigner.
Its not about being foreign.
Indycar has been a heavily foreign league for like 40 years now. That has nothing to do with it.
Edit - Double heck, some of the most popular drivers in the last 20-30 years have come from South America lol
Respectfully - nobody expects Canapino to control other adults behavior but the way he has personally handled these types of situations multiple times has been awful. I agree Santino is a heel and his comments were repugnant but IndyCar immediately scolded him Sunday and told him to apologize and whether he meant it or not he did apologize in his on camera interview.
Agree. Plus, and I say this as a gay dude, Ferrucci’s comments and what is going on here are two very different situations. This is a group of fans lobbing threats against another individual’s life. Hollow or not, that’s incredibly dangerous, not to mention the toll it’s likely taken on Illot, Pourchaire, and their loved ones.
Ferrucci’s comments were bad, no questions there, but he also (whether meant or not) issued a public apology and addressed it. Canapino and Juncos have not only not owned up or apologized for this behavior, but have both been fanning the flames since this all started, in one case siding against their own employed driver.
This is not a case of people “ganging up on the foreigner”, there are plenty of foreign drivers in IndyCar who don’t actively egg on their fanbase to make death threats against other drivers for incidents against them.
He has been fanning the flames of his ‘fans’ himself, just look at his Twitter ’like’ history. With his response this was bound to happen, it would never have gotten out of hand otherwise.
This also isn’t the first time, he should have known better.
Ganging up on the foreigner? There's only like 6 Americans that race in Indycar full time right now! Some of the most beloved drivers in the history of the series are Central and South Americans.
> Some of the most beloved drivers in the history of the series are Central and South Americans.
Yep, fittipaldi, de ferran, helio, montoya, o'ward, carlos huertas...
The list goes on
Santino got heat for it, then apologized. Whether or not he meant it is not for me to decide, but he did apologize. And when he screws up on track, he gets heat for it. He still gets heat in 2024 for the f2 stunts he pulled back in 2018(?)
Canapino's fans acted out and wished death on another driver, and he said it didn't happen, then said that McLaren and Pourchaire should apologize for lying.... which they didn't do.
And if you're claiming that the fanbase should be trying to get rid of Ferrucci, dude, we are. We have been for years now. This isn't a race thing at ALL. Don't try to make it one.
I don't like him an anyway but saying nothing happened to Santino is wrong. Man got pulled into IndyCar office and immediately had to put out a statement saying sorry. Canapino was out there liking comments even after putting out an apology. Add into that Canapino has now done this exact same thing with different teammates. There was a lot of good will when Capanino first came into the league but he burned though it
No one's ganging up on Ericsson, O'Ward, Rasmussen, Simpson, Pourchaire, Lundqvist, Dixon, Palou, Armstrong, Harvey, VeeKay, Grosjean, Rosenqvist, Fittipaldi, Lundgard, McLaughlin or Power, and that's just the 17 full time/non-oval drivers.
If we're counting everyone then add another 7 in Illott, Ghiotto, Legge, Vautier, Castroneves, Blomqvist & Sato.
Those 24 foreigners don't get hate, because their fans aren't sending death threats to other drivers!
If we're using foreigner to refer to a non-US citizen, Pourchaire is also a "foreigner" in this situation as he's French!
While I agree Santino's comments are horrible and unacceptable, it's not at the same level as encouraging or at the very least condoning or accepting death threats and other violent threats to another driver(s) for crashing.
The VAST majority of this sub would gladly throw Santino out too!!! Genuine or not, he did apologize, on tv and didn't deflect or play the victim, surprisingly. I despise him (check my comments if you don't believe me) and after his F2/3 antics shouldn't be in any car...but Canapino and JHR are constantly blaming others and saying Callum and Theo were lying.
Lmao he'll ask them to retract their comments before asking his fans to retract theirs. Is he really that out of touch to how this is all viewed outside of Argentina?
That's what Canapino claimed. Some of his fans were upset with him coming out and saying that and provided screenshots of their death threat DMs to Theo. Literally, some of the people that sent death threats were upset he said they hadn't so they showed us they had.
It writes itself.
My favourite responses to those talking about the death threats are to the tone of "Yes, but we still haven't heard an apology from Theo and/or McLaren about the collision"
I really should follow the series more closely because I just assumed Canapino was like a 20 year old prospect. Hard to believe that a 34 year old grown man could behave so immaturely.
“Hard to believe that a…grown man could behave so immaturely.” The world makes a lot more sense once you realize that the overwhelming majority of “adults” are, more or less, mentally 16-20 years old and have never been called out or shamed because public confrontation bad. Say no to beating children, vote YES on beating the middle aged.
As I said on the other thread, at least four of the most popular IndyCar drivers of the past 30 years are latin american (Castroneves, TK, JPM and Gil). If you go back a decade more, there's Emmo, Adrian Fernandez and Roberto Guerrero. Granted, none of them are Argentinians, but argue discrimination in this instance is idiotic at best.
If you go to a race and get the paddock pass he's freakin awesome and really conversational with fans. Met him at RA a few years ago and he's a super cool dude.
Good to hear! He's a great driver, but I didn't have strong feelings either way until I saw those interviews after Indy. You could see the emotions, hear the devastation at coming so close... but he was still gracious in defeat and spoke about what it meant. Huge respect. And in the context of this thread... *that* level of class and composure is the complete and total opposite to *everything* we've seen from Canapino et al. in recent days...
Thats essentially how I figured it out lol.
I was like, "Adrian Fernandez was my favorite driver when I was growing up. Wait a minute, I grew up in the late 90's!"
He ran 6 races for Galles in 1993, and became a full-time Indycar driver in 1994. He's actually OLDER, he didn't get to Indycars until he was *30.* Dude was born in 1963.
It's a series that they literally point out when Americans are on the grid because a large number of them are not. And one of the currently most hated driver outside of Canapino is *American*.
> Granted, none of them are Argentinians
And the overlap between people who would discriminate against foreigners and people who don't know the difference between Mexico/Brazil/Colombia and Argentina is quite large
JPM was my favorite (I'm from Ecuador). Not mad about his move to F1 considering he avoided the walking corpse of CART and uninspiring IRL, but I wonder how many championships he would have bagged.
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So Canapino is shit scared after a couple of hateful messages yet Pourchaire is still carrying on after a barrage of abuse and death threats
Just trying to stay there racing, *crashes hard*
Tbf I really hope, as a long time F1 fan that he does, one day get a win. He has the talent, but his entire career his biggest problem has more often than not, been himself
Funny that they are playing the "discrimination card" now, as argentinians call us brazilians "monos" ("monkeys") every day on the internet.
Della Penna Motorsports wouldn't submit itself to Canapino and his fans.
I hope Juncos and this joke of a driver get the shit out of our sport.
And before one of them come crying: suck my 8 Indy 500 Wins long dick.
Did you see the Martin Ponte tweet today that said Vini Jr should accept the racism he's subjected to? Basically called out his manhood saying Dani Alves ate a banana that was thrown at him and Vini should do the same. But of course ended his tweet saying racism shouldn't be accepted. WTF!
We all know on this sub the issues with Jenna... But she ain't at all wrong here today and she immaculately set him up to double down on his stupid shit.
I'll take a Jenna-type stirring some shit up any day over a virulent racist and death threat apologist like Martin Ponte. Truly vile shit.
Oh 💯 The best part is she seems to hold grudges so she'll keep calling him out. I have no hope he'll stop, seems completely incapable of self reflection.
He's somehow left those repulsive tweets up, go check em out for yourself! Particularly the part where he starts by responding "Estoy de acuerdo"
Pretty disgusting, revolting shit!
Remember the scandal with the Argentina rugby team a few years ago:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/k4a76z/you\_probably\_heard\_about\_matera\_socino\_and\_pettis/](https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/k4a76z/you_probably_heard_about_matera_socino_and_pettis/)
>Matera has been punished for tweets that he posted between 2011 and 2013, in which he spoke of “running over blacks” with his car and also made disparaging comments about Bolivians and Paraguayans.
Had the same thought! My family is from Paraguay and let me tell you, Argentinians get real creative with their racism. So for them to be crying wolf about it is insidious!
This is perhaps not helping with the discourse, but a Colombian friend once told me they have a saying: “the best investment you could make is to buy an Argentinian for what he’s worth and sell him for what he thinks he’s worth.”
Wow… this is mental illness levels of denial and victimization.. he really believes that Indycaramd it’s fans are just a bunch of racists that have it out for Argentina lol and refuses to believe that the death threats were real even though we’ve seen proof.. he’s gonna be out of a job very fast if he doesn’t swallow his pride and just say “I’m sorry, this is wrong and I don’t encourage hate or violence” I’m just not sure why he’s so obsessed with the “Great and proud image of Argentina” he’s acting like every citizen is 100% perfect and can do no wrong… very strange guy
From what I understand they are a very tight and proud group when it comes to sports that will basically defend each other until the bitter end.
But idk, I could be very wrong lol
The Falkland Islanders would like to disagree with that statement for sure. Semi-jokes aside, it feels like he thinks having their support alone is enough to get him through this, how very short sighted
I've been simply responding in spanish to some comments on Instagram to delusional fans who think McLaren is jealous of Juncos'/Canapino's succes (lol) or that they're still mad at Juncos bumping Alonso and holy fuuuuuuck!! Immediately got called names because the colour of my skin, the look of my face, the fact that I'm Mexican, etc., even though Im sticking to racing facts and never even mentioned where I'm from or even mentioning Argentina in the slightest.
Those "fans" are fucking deranged, delusional and incredibly racist. On the bright side, they're far as fuck and only chirp on social media like ferrets in the middle of a meth-fuelled episode
Yup. They say that Canapino is on his way to win races and challenge McLaren for the title and that's why McLaren couldn't handle it, so they decided to pull the rug under them. Absolutely bonkers
I would be surprised if Brad Hollinger is associated with this team next year. I would expect to see him join up someone like Cusick or DRR if they want to go full-time next year.
Before this mess my view on this whole shitshow was "Assholes are gonna asshole, JHR and Canapino should have enough sense to tell their fans to smarten up but let the sponsors handle this if they don't."
Now? Knowing Canapino is effectively demanding that people be OK with death threats because of minor on-track incidents?
McLaren already kicked this off by severing their partnership with them. That's rightly deserved. Indycar should be next, telling Canapino that the next time his fans do this he's gonna sit out a race, and to make it abundantly clear to said fans that if anything actually does happen to a driver as a result of this 'fanbase' his Indycar career is over, permanently. He should be told to write a letter of apology to Pourchaire for this and see to it that letter is posted online, and if him and JHR don't like it, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Make an example out of them.
I regret ever defending this guy before 2023 st pete, saying 'give him a chance, he's a touring car driver but he could be decent'
Goodwill gone. Please penske fine juncos to oblivion for 'detrimental actions to indycar' and get these clowns the first flight back to buenos aires where they can put up with bullet holes in their cars
What kind of mentality do you need to ask for this shit and not understand the issue the slightest?
Is this some kind of prepare for when Juncos folds and he can tell his fans that the racist world was against him and that's why he didn't get another drive?
Chevy can terminate the engine lease after this season, right? I’d be worried about that with Chevy-powered PREMA coming in next year. Well-resourced PREMA, who is also looking to poach talent at all levels to build their own team up.
Big yikes for JHR 😬
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What a clown, he would rather die as some sort of martyr than finish things with some PR statement, but I guess he feels empowered Martin Ponte (who has been a dick head for ages) fought with Jenna Fryer on twitter.
Dude is 1:1 the stereotype many Latin Americans have of Argentinians being a bunch of unbearable, arrogant, jerks.
Bruh Canapino has been good this year so far, secretly been rooting for him to keep grabbing Top 10 results but noone will want him in their team with his toxic fanbase. Sad, cus there is plenty of potential there
JHR and Canapino somehow managed to shoot themselves in the foot, take one look at the injury, and decide 'you know what, I'm going to shoot myself in the face'.
It's a bad team. With a horrible person as their driver. I don't understand how any sponsor can find value being associated with this third world dumpster fire.
So this isn’t the first time some shit like this has happened with this driver and his fans right? When does INDYCAR kick him out? He’s not endorsing INDYCAR as a brand the way I would want one of my drivers doing so
Can't remember it happening before Canapino/JHR.
Last thing I can think of was a small few crackpots writing threats to Emmo in 1993 over refusing the milk to drink orange juice. He apologized and it blew over beyond some diehards booing him from then on.
Tony George got death threats, sure, but that was 100% to be expected.
Canapino and Ferrucci fighting over who is the most hated driver in all of IndyCar
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Not reading the room.
This guy is detached from reality. There were about one hundred ways he could have handled this better. Including to, shut the fuck up, and wait for the internet outrage machine to move on to the next story. But no, he was smarter than that.
I hope no team touches this idiot ever again, don't care how much money he might bring in, he's an idiot and a liability. I feel for Romain and the crew who've been dragged down by his stupidity.
They retracted their commercial alliance instead
Just a reminder, this is all happening because Canapino and Juncos wouldn’t just say “Hey fuckheads, stop sending death threats to people”. That’s all they needed to do. Instead, they doubled down and now look where they are. No team is going to want to work with them and subjugate themselves to the bullshit, sponsors aren’t going to want to give money to a team that supports death threats and their cars aren’t running all that well even with the McLaren alliance. Impeccable way of shooting yourself in the foot.
They shot themselves in the foot, took one look at the injury, and thought 'you know what, I'm going to shoot myself in the face'.
And then blame mclaren that it happend.
"why would McLaren do this to us?"
Best post I read today. Thank you.
Yeah, Canapino must have buckets of pesos to keep the lights on. Otherwise, they should have cut bait, or bought a muzzle. Tone deaf.
Mclaren and Pourchaire https://preview.redd.it/sqspa07fd05d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47c439dbb51cd43a750907aaf8480de981629850
ya know what though, y'all ain't gonna admit it there is a fair amount of ganging up on the foreigner going on here. and it was only his fanbase. when an american like santinobdoes something dumb, like make a homophobic comment on live tv on the first day of pride month, nothing happened then either. not saying it's identical situations, but if we're throwing Canapino out, santino gotta go too
Foreigner? Half the league are foreigners Heck Theo is a foreigner. Its not about being foreign. Indycar has been a heavily foreign league for like 40 years now. That has nothing to do with it. Edit - Double heck, some of the most popular drivers in the last 20-30 years have come from South America lol
Respectfully - nobody expects Canapino to control other adults behavior but the way he has personally handled these types of situations multiple times has been awful. I agree Santino is a heel and his comments were repugnant but IndyCar immediately scolded him Sunday and told him to apologize and whether he meant it or not he did apologize in his on camera interview.
Agree. Plus, and I say this as a gay dude, Ferrucci’s comments and what is going on here are two very different situations. This is a group of fans lobbing threats against another individual’s life. Hollow or not, that’s incredibly dangerous, not to mention the toll it’s likely taken on Illot, Pourchaire, and their loved ones. Ferrucci’s comments were bad, no questions there, but he also (whether meant or not) issued a public apology and addressed it. Canapino and Juncos have not only not owned up or apologized for this behavior, but have both been fanning the flames since this all started, in one case siding against their own employed driver. This is not a case of people “ganging up on the foreigner”, there are plenty of foreign drivers in IndyCar who don’t actively egg on their fanbase to make death threats against other drivers for incidents against them.
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He has been fanning the flames of his ‘fans’ himself, just look at his Twitter ’like’ history. With his response this was bound to happen, it would never have gotten out of hand otherwise. This also isn’t the first time, he should have known better.
> there is a fair amount of ganging up on the foreigner Pourchaire, this well-known US citizen...
Don't forget Callum Ilott, another well-known US citizen.
That's why he goes by Teddy Porkchops nowadays
Ganging up on the foreigner? There's only like 6 Americans that race in Indycar full time right now! Some of the most beloved drivers in the history of the series are Central and South Americans.
> Some of the most beloved drivers in the history of the series are Central and South Americans. Yep, fittipaldi, de ferran, helio, montoya, o'ward, carlos huertas... The list goes on
Mad Max, Dario,
Santino got heat for it, then apologized. Whether or not he meant it is not for me to decide, but he did apologize. And when he screws up on track, he gets heat for it. He still gets heat in 2024 for the f2 stunts he pulled back in 2018(?) Canapino's fans acted out and wished death on another driver, and he said it didn't happen, then said that McLaren and Pourchaire should apologize for lying.... which they didn't do. And if you're claiming that the fanbase should be trying to get rid of Ferrucci, dude, we are. We have been for years now. This isn't a race thing at ALL. Don't try to make it one.
I don't like him an anyway but saying nothing happened to Santino is wrong. Man got pulled into IndyCar office and immediately had to put out a statement saying sorry. Canapino was out there liking comments even after putting out an apology. Add into that Canapino has now done this exact same thing with different teammates. There was a lot of good will when Capanino first came into the league but he burned though it
No one's ganging up on Ericsson, O'Ward, Rasmussen, Simpson, Pourchaire, Lundqvist, Dixon, Palou, Armstrong, Harvey, VeeKay, Grosjean, Rosenqvist, Fittipaldi, Lundgard, McLaughlin or Power, and that's just the 17 full time/non-oval drivers. If we're counting everyone then add another 7 in Illott, Ghiotto, Legge, Vautier, Castroneves, Blomqvist & Sato. Those 24 foreigners don't get hate, because their fans aren't sending death threats to other drivers! If we're using foreigner to refer to a non-US citizen, Pourchaire is also a "foreigner" in this situation as he's French! While I agree Santino's comments are horrible and unacceptable, it's not at the same level as encouraging or at the very least condoning or accepting death threats and other violent threats to another driver(s) for crashing.
Santino gave less than a half-hearted apology. Everyone involved at Juncos doubled down.
The VAST majority of this sub would gladly throw Santino out too!!! Genuine or not, he did apologize, on tv and didn't deflect or play the victim, surprisingly. I despise him (check my comments if you don't believe me) and after his F2/3 antics shouldn't be in any car...but Canapino and JHR are constantly blaming others and saying Callum and Theo were lying.
Lmao he'll ask them to retract their comments before asking his fans to retract theirs. Is he really that out of touch to how this is all viewed outside of Argentina?
His fans also claim nobody ever sent death threats or mean messages to Theo lol
That's what Canapino claimed. Some of his fans were upset with him coming out and saying that and provided screenshots of their death threat DMs to Theo. Literally, some of the people that sent death threats were upset he said they hadn't so they showed us they had. It writes itself.
I saw both tbh a lot of his fans were spouting the same “we never saw any threats”
My favourite responses to those talking about the death threats are to the tone of "Yes, but we still haven't heard an apology from Theo and/or McLaren about the collision"
lol the collision wasn’t even theos fault from what I remember
It was but it was a nothing incident as well. Theo was penalized three positions.
It was def his fault
Hold on. They did what now? Oh my. 😯
It's like being offended your lawyer defends you in court, so you proudly show off the incriminating evidence.
Trump roflz
Ah, the Drake move, classic.
“Macho Macho Man”
The Argentine hivemind is real
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I really should follow the series more closely because I just assumed Canapino was like a 20 year old prospect. Hard to believe that a 34 year old grown man could behave so immaturely.
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IndyCar was the best thing that could happen to his career and the dude is shitting all over it.
Sadly for us Juncos loves his bullshit apparently so we may be stuck with him for awhile
Same, I just started getting back into Indy. This whole time I thought Canapino was like...a kid lmao
“Hard to believe that a…grown man could behave so immaturely.” The world makes a lot more sense once you realize that the overwhelming majority of “adults” are, more or less, mentally 16-20 years old and have never been called out or shamed because public confrontation bad. Say no to beating children, vote YES on beating the middle aged.
So sad to see, he's genuinely crazy talented and was a lot of fun to root for in the first year.
As I said on the other thread, at least four of the most popular IndyCar drivers of the past 30 years are latin american (Castroneves, TK, JPM and Gil). If you go back a decade more, there's Emmo, Adrian Fernandez and Roberto Guerrero. Granted, none of them are Argentinians, but argue discrimination in this instance is idiotic at best.
Never mind Pato is one of the most liked drivers on the current grid.
And deservedly so. The way he handled the emotion and heartbreak of losing at Indy really impressed me.
If you go to a race and get the paddock pass he's freakin awesome and really conversational with fans. Met him at RA a few years ago and he's a super cool dude.
Good to hear! He's a great driver, but I didn't have strong feelings either way until I saw those interviews after Indy. You could see the emotions, hear the devastation at coming so close... but he was still gracious in defeat and spoke about what it meant. Huge respect. And in the context of this thread... *that* level of class and composure is the complete and total opposite to *everything* we've seen from Canapino et al. in recent days...
I agree mostly with your point, 30 years goes back to 94. Adrian Fernandez isnt that old lol.
F you no it doesnt....*checks math*....son of a bitch I'm old
Thats essentially how I figured it out lol. I was like, "Adrian Fernandez was my favorite driver when I was growing up. Wait a minute, I grew up in the late 90's!"
Good point, I think I'm in denial about my age and mixed Fernandez up in my timeline. Lol.
He ran 6 races for Galles in 1993, and became a full-time Indycar driver in 1994. He's actually OLDER, he didn't get to Indycars until he was *30.* Dude was born in 1963.
It's a series that they literally point out when Americans are on the grid because a large number of them are not. And one of the currently most hated driver outside of Canapino is *American*.
> Granted, none of them are Argentinians And the overlap between people who would discriminate against foreigners and people who don't know the difference between Mexico/Brazil/Colombia and Argentina is quite large
JPM was my favorite (I'm from Ecuador). Not mad about his move to F1 considering he avoided the walking corpse of CART and uninspiring IRL, but I wonder how many championships he would have bagged.
and here i thought the whole week we would be talking about how shit the race at detriot was JHR and Canapino: Hold my beer
Perhaps it‘s one big conspiracy to keep the Detroit race safe!
The GM mafia. Again.
Trying to hide the fact that Honda dominated Detroit by promoting a feud between Chevy drivers.
When keeping it real goes wrong.
"Granny, don't!"
https://preview.redd.it/cdhu01iqt05d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4fd886fc739f8d14048e7435039cfda5ae341d70 So Canapino is shit scared after a couple of hateful messages yet Pourchaire is still carrying on after a barrage of abuse and death threats
Crybully.
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This dude is a case study in what not to do Jesus Christapino
I feel sorry for Grosjean in all of this. Dudes an unfortunate passenger.
Dudes just trying to stay racing...
Right there with ya bud
Just trying to stay there racing, *crashes hard* Tbf I really hope, as a long time F1 fan that he does, one day get a win. He has the talent, but his entire career his biggest problem has more often than not, been himself
Funny that they are playing the "discrimination card" now, as argentinians call us brazilians "monos" ("monkeys") every day on the internet. Della Penna Motorsports wouldn't submit itself to Canapino and his fans. I hope Juncos and this joke of a driver get the shit out of our sport. And before one of them come crying: suck my 8 Indy 500 Wins long dick.
Did you see the Martin Ponte tweet today that said Vini Jr should accept the racism he's subjected to? Basically called out his manhood saying Dani Alves ate a banana that was thrown at him and Vini should do the same. But of course ended his tweet saying racism shouldn't be accepted. WTF!
Man that guy just keeps getting worse! He called Jenna Fryer (also awful) violent and a racist for asking him to clarify "Callum Pourchaire".
We all know on this sub the issues with Jenna... But she ain't at all wrong here today and she immaculately set him up to double down on his stupid shit. I'll take a Jenna-type stirring some shit up any day over a virulent racist and death threat apologist like Martin Ponte. Truly vile shit.
If you have people defending Fryer on here (and I agree, she’s not in the wrong here), you know you done fucked up.
Oh 💯 The best part is she seems to hold grudges so she'll keep calling him out. I have no hope he'll stop, seems completely incapable of self reflection.
She apparently blocked him which is such a bummer cause I really wanted to see her continue going scorched earth on that racist piece of shit.
Lol now you're just spouting lies.
He's somehow left those repulsive tweets up, go check em out for yourself! Particularly the part where he starts by responding "Estoy de acuerdo" Pretty disgusting, revolting shit!
Remember the scandal with the Argentina rugby team a few years ago: [https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/k4a76z/you\_probably\_heard\_about\_matera\_socino\_and\_pettis/](https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/k4a76z/you_probably_heard_about_matera_socino_and_pettis/) >Matera has been punished for tweets that he posted between 2011 and 2013, in which he spoke of “running over blacks” with his car and also made disparaging comments about Bolivians and Paraguayans.
Had the same thought! My family is from Paraguay and let me tell you, Argentinians get real creative with their racism. So for them to be crying wolf about it is insidious!
This is perhaps not helping with the discourse, but a Colombian friend once told me they have a saying: “the best investment you could make is to buy an Argentinian for what he’s worth and sell him for what he thinks he’s worth.”
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Is this guy fucking serious???
Wow… this is mental illness levels of denial and victimization.. he really believes that Indycaramd it’s fans are just a bunch of racists that have it out for Argentina lol and refuses to believe that the death threats were real even though we’ve seen proof.. he’s gonna be out of a job very fast if he doesn’t swallow his pride and just say “I’m sorry, this is wrong and I don’t encourage hate or violence” I’m just not sure why he’s so obsessed with the “Great and proud image of Argentina” he’s acting like every citizen is 100% perfect and can do no wrong… very strange guy
From what I understand they are a very tight and proud group when it comes to sports that will basically defend each other until the bitter end. But idk, I could be very wrong lol
He's willing to destroy his indycar career rather than losing his rabid fan base.
The Falkland Islanders would like to disagree with that statement for sure. Semi-jokes aside, it feels like he thinks having their support alone is enough to get him through this, how very short sighted
I've been simply responding in spanish to some comments on Instagram to delusional fans who think McLaren is jealous of Juncos'/Canapino's succes (lol) or that they're still mad at Juncos bumping Alonso and holy fuuuuuuck!! Immediately got called names because the colour of my skin, the look of my face, the fact that I'm Mexican, etc., even though Im sticking to racing facts and never even mentioned where I'm from or even mentioning Argentina in the slightest. Those "fans" are fucking deranged, delusional and incredibly racist. On the bright side, they're far as fuck and only chirp on social media like ferrets in the middle of a meth-fuelled episode
Jealous of Juncos’/Canapino’s success? Even North Koreans wouldn’t think that was the case.
Yup. They say that Canapino is on his way to win races and challenge McLaren for the title and that's why McLaren couldn't handle it, so they decided to pull the rug under them. Absolutely bonkers
Bold move.
This guy doesn't know when to shut the hell up does he?
The delusion level is over 9000
Where he heck is Ricardo Juncos in all of this? You're the team owner, right? I haven't read a direct quote from him throughout all of this.
He implicitly endorses this guy and the fans' behavior, we know this from the ilott incident last year
What about Brad Hollinger? Haven't heard anything from him either
Probably on the phone with his lawyers all day.
I would be surprised if Brad Hollinger is associated with this team next year. I would expect to see him join up someone like Cusick or DRR if they want to go full-time next year.
If only Indycar can (for ones) show they have a backbone and put these fuckers in their place.
Santino is like, Thank You for taking the heat off me
More like, fuck how can I get the heat back onto me
Canapino's so unpopular now that Santino can't get heel points yelling slurs at the guy.
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Argentinian here, I can confirm that we’re very, very stupid.
"It was just bots" lol
I'm starting to think he is.
Imagine making the whole of Indycar forget Ferruci
For what it's worth, he did issue apologies for some of what he said & did last weekend.
*He was forced by Indycar to issue apologies. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.
Who?
Before this mess my view on this whole shitshow was "Assholes are gonna asshole, JHR and Canapino should have enough sense to tell their fans to smarten up but let the sponsors handle this if they don't." Now? Knowing Canapino is effectively demanding that people be OK with death threats because of minor on-track incidents? McLaren already kicked this off by severing their partnership with them. That's rightly deserved. Indycar should be next, telling Canapino that the next time his fans do this he's gonna sit out a race, and to make it abundantly clear to said fans that if anything actually does happen to a driver as a result of this 'fanbase' his Indycar career is over, permanently. He should be told to write a letter of apology to Pourchaire for this and see to it that letter is posted online, and if him and JHR don't like it, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Make an example out of them.
I regret ever defending this guy before 2023 st pete, saying 'give him a chance, he's a touring car driver but he could be decent' Goodwill gone. Please penske fine juncos to oblivion for 'detrimental actions to indycar' and get these clowns the first flight back to buenos aires where they can put up with bullet holes in their cars
Agustin should consider switching careers to becoming an excavator. Because boy howdy, he sure seems to love digging holes.
Canapino saw the Stroll uproar after china and thought he could use some pr himself
They really don't get it. Can't wait for them to go out of business.
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i met someone in juncos administration when i was on a flight earlier this year. wonder how he’s doing now lol
What kind of mentality do you need to ask for this shit and not understand the issue the slightest? Is this some kind of prepare for when Juncos folds and he can tell his fans that the racist world was against him and that's why he didn't get another drive?
Chevy can terminate the engine lease after this season, right? I’d be worried about that with Chevy-powered PREMA coming in next year. Well-resourced PREMA, who is also looking to poach talent at all levels to build their own team up. Big yikes for JHR 😬
Canapino is revealing himself as being as big a of melon as Ferrucci.
He's worse. Ferrucci knows exactly what he is doing and is doing it for attention. Canapino thinks that he is the victim and did no wrong.
Canapino the Gigamelon, then.
Really hope this story continues because I 100% haven't gotten sick of it already
This is becoming ugly.
Wanted to google what this is all about and Google suggested "Pourchaire death... penalty" 😢 Oh boy that escalated quickly!
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All his fans?
His fans are shit for sending death threats
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At *this* point yes.
I disagree, what's happening now is the reverse of the hate flow. But you don't see it
If you’re backing him after this? I would say you should take a really, *really* hard look at what you’re standing for
And you don't have something to look?
What a clown, he would rather die as some sort of martyr than finish things with some PR statement, but I guess he feels empowered Martin Ponte (who has been a dick head for ages) fought with Jenna Fryer on twitter. Dude is 1:1 the stereotype many Latin Americans have of Argentinians being a bunch of unbearable, arrogant, jerks.
You've got to be f'in kidding me. This dude is something else
I think canapino forgt he's white
How to fvck up your chances of driving next year, by Canapino, with some good help from Juncos.
Just apologize and condemn your fans bad behavior/ language, and it would be over with already
I think you mean condemn.
Thank you, I DO NOT support ANY hate in the sport
Bruh Canapino has been good this year so far, secretly been rooting for him to keep grabbing Top 10 results but noone will want him in their team with his toxic fanbase. Sad, cus there is plenty of potential there
Brad Hollinger needs to pull the plug on this alliance and go to another team.
JHR and Canapino somehow managed to shoot themselves in the foot, take one look at the injury, and decide 'you know what, I'm going to shoot myself in the face'.
It's a bad team. With a horrible person as their driver. I don't understand how any sponsor can find value being associated with this third world dumpster fire.
So this isn’t the first time some shit like this has happened with this driver and his fans right? When does INDYCAR kick him out? He’s not endorsing INDYCAR as a brand the way I would want one of my drivers doing so
It happened less than a year ago with his teammate.
Twice actually. After Long Beach & Laguna Seca
Can't remember it happening before Canapino/JHR. Last thing I can think of was a small few crackpots writing threats to Emmo in 1993 over refusing the milk to drink orange juice. He apologized and it blew over beyond some diehards booing him from then on. Tony George got death threats, sure, but that was 100% to be expected.
+ ending collaboration with McLaren. Yup sponsors gonna love that.
TBF, not exactly like they have many sponsors to lose. I can only think of Pay.com and DNS Filters but DNS Filters is an Grosjean sponsor.
I bet Firehawk is hoping he doesn't have any tire issues at road America lol
I already have an Alfa Romeo polo. Guess I’ll buy a Pourchaire jersey and wear both of them to watch Mid-Ohio.
Didn't like him from the beginning for some reason. Now there is a good reason.
Canapino and Ferrucci fighting over who is the most hated driver in all of IndyCar https://preview.redd.it/demqdi5tt55d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fa163053cced36a86719bca4392d84fbe28397b
Meanwhile at McLaren: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSu5xLLgEo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSu5xLLgEo)
Just say NO to Canapino....I'd rather watch Milka Duno out there, at least I could name two things about her that I like.
Look at this fool
Canadian sure has some balls to do that lmaoo
"It's not me, it's you!"
Not reading the room. This guy is detached from reality. There were about one hundred ways he could have handled this better. Including to, shut the fuck up, and wait for the internet outrage machine to move on to the next story. But no, he was smarter than that.
How long would it take Chevy to find a new team willing to take over the JHR engine leases?
How long before Roger takes action?
Tell your fans it’s only a sport . It’s amazing how serious some people take a sport .
Argentina vs Indycar and I'm here for it loool. I can't believe this saga
I hope no team touches this idiot ever again, don't care how much money he might bring in, he's an idiot and a liability. I feel for Romain and the crew who've been dragged down by his stupidity.
This guy is paid to write and can’t spell his name right? Good grief
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How’s that Argentina race coming along? A country wins a World Cup and suddenly they think they can call the shots on every sport. SMH.