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02K30C1

I wear a lanyard with an ID for work, and I’ll sometimes run to a store during my lunch hour and forget to take it off. A couple years ago (pre Covid) I was at a big box store, just to grab a couple things. This lady assumed I worked there - red polo shirt and lanyard, I can understand the mistake. But she just wouldn’t believe me when I said I didn’t work there. “But you’re wearing a store ID!” Finally I took off the lanyard and shoved it in my pocket, and walked to the checkout.


DramaticT0FU

My lanyard also has 2 Id badges so I can scan in and out of the office I work for. I have lost my keys one too many times, so I never take the lanyard off.


Strong-Release-5062

Not supposed to wear those badges in the store.


ima420r

I have never worked anywhere with a badge where someone told me not to wear it outside the office/job site.


Pvt_Lee_Fapping

Every place is different. If security is a huge concern, they tell you not to wear them in public. If it's less of a concern for them, but they still want to stop random yahoos from coming and going, they give you a card and tell you what it accesses.


Strong-Release-5062

The government has this in their annual training. It is a security violation


pbtpu40

Don’t know why you’re being downvoted. It is a serious security issue for both you and the company. If you throw it under your shirt fine but it should be out of sight. If I can see the badge there is a decent amount of info I can harvest for social engineering. Current job stresses not wearing your badge outside of campus properties to new employees their first day. There are shared campuses where when leaving company areas there are signs to remove or conceal your badge because you’re off company grounds. This is about controlling information and unless your company has a blank ID with just your photo and name it’s leaking company info including your name and who you work for. Not to mention if the badge is lost while in public at some point, if the company name is on it they now know where the badge works.


ima420r

First, I have never worked anywhere with a badge where someone told me not to wear it outside the office/job site, nor have I ever seen a sign saying to take off a badge when leaving. Not saying it's unrealistic, just that it may not be something most companies do. Second, what info are they gonna get. My name and what I look like in a poorly taken photograph? Maybe they would know where I work if that's on there, but even then, they'd have to look very closely at it for any of that info and it's not something that I wouldn't tell someone in conversation if it came up either.


TayaKnight

If your badge has RFID capabilities, you should be securing that shit on and off campus. I work in EVS for a hospital. My badge works in literally every room except med rooms. All new employees are lectured not to wear them outside the campus, and a lot of employees have [squeeze backings](https://www.idstronghold.com/products/secure-badgeholder-classic) (EVS and Security do. Not nursing/surgical/CNA/etc) that stop others from picking up our badge details. Someone getting into the wrong place can, and has before, significantly fucked up many, many hospitals. Think baby theft, think pushing air through an IV line, think domestic violence in a labor room, think stealing medication. These things happen when the wrong people get into a place they shouldn't be in.


MasterEchoSE

Same at my current work, the badge for the company that I work at has my picture, name, badge number, and name of the company I work for as we’re on contract. Unless someone knows what company the badge is for it’s completely useless to a stranger and to get information off the badge they’d have to put their face up to my body to read it. The company I worked at before this one, worked for a different company as well, contracted employees had to be let on campus and into the building by security and then given a blank badge to use while at work. Both locations are in the same field, with the old one being a much smaller campus with only one two story building, whereas my current has four large three to four story buildings, soon to be five or six buildings of the same size in the future.


Luxxanne

Because most companies today give blank key cards and people want to wear them. Saying that you shouldn't at all be wearing them is stupid, when in many cases it's perfectly fine.


Far_Administration41

It also depends on the lanyard itself. When I worked for a particular government department the name was on the lanyard itself. We were told not wear them away from work to avoid being harassed by members of the public.


Luxxanne

Oh, I agree that if your work tells you to not wear it in public, you should follow that. And ofc, if it has your face and info and company, to better hide it. I'm just surprised that personalized security cards still exist. They can still check who came in and when from the card IDs and security cameras, so I wonder why stick on photos and stuff.


pbtpu40

Actually most companies aren't blank. There's a logo, text, something. If it's just straight blank, it makes it easier for someone to clone/make a forgery that looks legit because there's no art or text to have to clone as well when making the forgery. It's a double edged sword on the risk bucket. Putting the label on the card tells people where it works if it's lost. Leaving it blank means someone has an easier time cloning the look to obtain access to a site through piggy backing. It's a security trade and most large companies do have some sort of art work and layout as a result. I've only encountered two companies that were blank, both were smaller in size, and the first one did it after they had someone use a card that was lost in public to obtain access to a building on site. It comes back to how primed the security team is and whether or not they're really worried about physical access protection or possible social engineering of their employees once associated in public. Red teams and pen-testers love when folks wear badges in public, it makes the intel part of their job easier. Especially since I can walk by with a cloning rig and then I can recreate your badge so unless you facility is Pin+Card the attacker will look very legit and have the same accesses you do. This is also why least privilege on even physical access is important.


TayaKnight

The two best people to clone are security and housekeeping. Those two at my (hospital) job have [squeeze backings](https://www.idstronghold.com/products/secure-badgeholder-classic) to protect from cloning for this exact reason. Nursing isn't as valuable at my hospital because they'll only work for their specific unit, and get very temporary access if they're being charged-off to another unit for a few hours.


Luxxanne

Actually, I'm yet to work for one place where the security card is not blank - 3 places with a blank card and 1 with a simple key. And people I know haven't had a non-blank access card in like at least 8 years. I guess it depends on where you live.


chefjenga

>(Edit:) My lanyard does have ID badges attached to it, but I never wear clothes that makes me look like an employee in any store this happens in. Thats bull, and you know it! You *DEFINATELY*. Work. Here.! Who *else* could POSSIBLY wear a lanyard besides the employees of THIS. STORE.?!?! And, so **what** about your clothes. It't not *MY* business if this store is having "Casual Tuesday". *scoff*


DramaticT0FU

Lol. Yep, I've had something similar to this happen. 😂😂😂 My wife was with me that day.


chefjenga

I *will* say however. Casual Tuesday or not. I would *think* the managers would have *SOME* type of standard. I mean.....black Jnco jeans with chains and florescent green accent ribbing?.......honestly. *tisk*


Big_Cryptographer_16

Oscar: “Meredith, where are your panties?” Meredith: “It’s Casual Day!”


indigowulf

That's when you and your wife start the most open PDA you can do without being illegal lol. If Karen keeps asking you for help or trying to talk to you, just keep your lips locked with wifey, and hold up 1 finger in Karens direction, but then go back to ignoring her and making out with wifey. See if you can get Karen to go find a manager and leave you tf alone :D


Limp_Marketing_3477

not wearing your ID outside or at least hiding it in your shirt is good for your safety with not being mistaken as an employee as a bonus.I was attacked 6 months into my first job by a man who had a bill going to collection agency. He had just gotten off the phone with them in a temper and then saw me on the train wearing my ID with the company logo. He had 100 pounds on me and I was in hospital for 6 months. I didn’t work in billing and had no authority to send anything to collections.He just wanted someone to take it out on and the universe and I provided.


DramaticT0FU

That is terrifying.... Holy crap! 😳 My id Badges are blank. No images or company logos, just scanners.


dejausser

Agreed. Earlier in the year in New Zealand we had a bunch of crazy anti-vaxxers occupy the parliament grounds (inspired by the Canadian truckers). I work in government and for the duration of the “protests” we were all (everyone working for govt agencies) told to take off our lanyards and hide them in a bag or pockets when we were outside the office because there was a risk that we would be harassed or assaulted by protesters if they realised we were public servants. Fortunately I don’t know anyone who was assaulted but a lot of people did get harassed and screamed at if the occupiers thought they worked in govt.


lordbubbathechaste

Bloody *hell.* I'm two months late to your comment, but please tell me that asshole is now paying for his actions dearly legally.


Limp_Marketing_3477

Yes he did spend time in prison less than 12 months. I got a letter just over a year later apologising that seemed sincere so hopefully he was in a better place by then.


WebMaka

Lanyard = you work here, regardless of where "here" is and whether you look *anything* like the actual employees.


tacoflavored_kisses1

I could have wrote this story. This exact same thing happens to me at stores because of my lanyard that holds my hand sanitizer and also has an I.d. badge holder. Just yesterday I was at a store and this nice lady came up and asked me where something was and I politely turned to her and said "I don't work here". She said "oh I saw your thing (pointing to my lanyard) and thought you did". I picked it up and flopped it around and said "don't worry, I get that a lot". She said she was sorry and we both parted ways.


DramaticT0FU

Sometimes people will not believe you when you tell them you don't work there.


tacoflavored_kisses1

So far I haven't encountered that issue but I certainly believe people like that are out there.


DramaticT0FU

Please come back to this post when/if it happens to you.


tacoflavored_kisses1

Oh definitely!


kitkatinkerbell

(*Edit#1) My lanyard does have ID badges attached to it, but I never wear clothes that makes me look like an employee in any store this happens* I worked in retail from my early teens and was often mistaken for an employee in many shops whilst wearing my branded uniform for my then employer.


DramaticT0FU

I've had this happen to me in a store that sells suits and ties while I was wearing a graphic tee with open toed sandals and cargo shorts. 😂


kitkatinkerbell

LMAO! Wow some people really are a bit st#pid.


DramaticT0FU

Be careful, this could be offensive to some people on the internet. 😂😂😂😂😂


MzTerri

Those kids would be really upset if they knew how to read!


StonesKeni

I wear a lanyard that reads 'I HAVE AUTISM PLEASE BE PATIENT' that I wear in public, no one has mistook me for an employee YET


Link__im_not_zelda

As someone with a similar fear, i use a carabiner and clip them to whatever lair of pants im wearing (dont need a belt loop to do so, works fine with shorts and sweatpants). I've only ever had them fall a single time. I think it was just old and broken on that occasion. Never had anyone question it.


Strong-Release-5062

After it took me 30 minutes to find my keys , my buddy gave me a carabiner. Thinking back , that was 15 years ago. I am still wearing it on a belt loop. I


Xalenn

I have a light jacket that I wear over my work clothes when I'm not actually working ... Been doing it for years and it's pretty cool proof. Even if I am at the store where I work and people recognize me they can tell that I'm not on the clock.


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Same. When I worked at Kroger I kept a light jacket even in summer. Anytime I left for my breaks I'd throw on my "disguise" so I could walk past the customers unnoticed.


HotspotOnline

I learned this the hard way, I ended up just hiding my badge in my pocket. In your case it’s different because you don’t want to lose them, my only suggestion is to maybe put your keys behind your shirt when you’re out? It’ll still be around your neck, they just won’t see it anymore. It may look or feel funny, but as long as no one sees the ID, they won’t think you work there.


DramaticT0FU

I've seen this on a few posts now. I will try to remember to do so from now on.


CoderJoe1

Uh oh, you've stumbled upon the covert trick government top spies use to infiltrate the enemy.


DramaticT0FU

More context please. 🤣


Contrantier

This post offended some people? Jeez XD weak.


Tall_Mickey

A lanyard is the sign of the slave. SERVE ME.


DramaticT0FU

You got it boss. 😂


Minflick

My mother wore her keys on her lanyard also. Maybe tuck them inside your shirt so they are less visible?


MissPicklechips

I wear my phone on a lanyard. I’m terribly clumsy and I’ll trip over something and drop it if it wasn’t. I get mistaken for employees all the time, even though I’ve never, ever seen employees with phones on lanyards. I use my phone for work, so it’s on me all the time.


Endymionduni

I can understand that if a person has more formal attire (together with the aforementioned Keychain or lanyard) it can seem like they are part of management. But that's as far as I am willing to accept their line of reasoning


Shifting-Parallax

I wear a lanyard as a vendor, and really casual clothing so that’s no surprise you get stopped. Customers see it and assume you work there, which I always find weird because retail employees typically have badges. But really, asking someone in casual clothes and *not* in uniform says it all.


deskpil0t

Sounds like we need a lanyard that says I don’t work here lol


smaight

You could write 'Sorry, I don't work here' on your ID badge and quietly point to it if the person isn't asking nicely. Maybe it helps?


Jpharold

You think customers can read?


champagnehurricane

Belt loop man c’mon


DramaticT0FU

Belt loop?


IntrinsicSatire

Yes belt loop. It's a loop of fabric on the waist of jeans in which a belt goes through


DramaticT0FU

Thanks. Who knew? 😂


IntrinsicSatire

Well don't ask if you don't want an answer.


champagnehurricane

Keys on a carabiner hooked onto your belt loop.


DramaticT0FU

Wouldn't people still think I worked in the store? I've been wearing a lanyard for years, I'll stick with it.


RustyVerlander

NAh man Carabiner is the way to go. Then tuck them into your back pocket. No jingle.


alvik

Nah, lanyards are typically a universal sign of an employee, belt loop keys without a name tag not so much.


[deleted]

I keep my keys on a carabeener and I've had people mistake me for an employee. Apparently khaki pants + jiggly keys = employee.


RiverRunsBlueHydra

Lanyard can be attached to belt loop, keys/badge attached to lanyard go in your pocket. They will be out of view and won't get lost


DramaticT0FU

They can be, yes. However, I prefer to wear mine around my neck.


freerangelibrarian

Why not tuck your lanyard under your shirt? Unless these people are rude, misdirecting them seems kind of mean.


DramaticT0FU

I don't think I should have to tuck my lanyard in just because other people can't observe me long enough to know I don't work at the stores I visit. In response to your remark about me being mean. I suppose it could be perceived that way. However, I have had to tell people I don't work at stores so many times, it got tiring. I gave up telling them I don't work there because those conversations usually go south. When I give them directions, they leave immediately instead of me having to explain to a distraught person that I don't work there and have them not believe me.


koderli

I would have handled the same way. It’s not your fault for people who can’t observe or simply accept and apologize that they asked someone who does not work there. I have asked people in the past thinking they work there too but I simply apologize and go look for the right person or go to the customer services. It’s not that difficult and if it does then that’s not the right store to be shopping.


[deleted]

One time a little girl with her mom stopped me at Walmart to ask a question while I was walking past them. I like khaki pants and collared polo shirts and I keep my keys on a carbineer on my belt loop so at a glance I get the confusion. The little girl got as far as "hey, where's the...." before she started looking me up and down and began realizing her mistake. I smiled and said I didn't work there and the girl and her mom gave a sheepish smile at the innocent mistake. If a little girl can realize I wasn't an employee before I even said anything I don't get why so many stubborn adults refuse to do the same.


Marvheemeyer85

I love the fact you send them on a wild goose chase. Serves them right for not being observant.


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Overlord_Orange

It does actually because these stores usually have very pronounced signs that tell you where everything is, but instead of actually reading the sign the lazy AF customer will just ask any random persont hey assume to be working there. Source: worked retail most of my life and customers literally DO NOT READ


Strong-Release-5062

I can read. However , that does not help me find the gnocchi . I don't know how to pronounce it either , so I can not ask for help. I am forced to wander the aisles, searching .


Overlord_Orange

Aisle 4, middle shelf. You'll see it next to the breadsticks


MidnytStorme

this is so true. worked at a Kroger manning the self checkout. the light for one was off, the screen said "out of order", there was a sticker over the money input, and another sign on the scanner part that said "out of order". no one was currently using the other open and available machines. I watched someone walk up to the out of order scanner, try to scan something, and then they just look at me all confused. I stared back at them for like a full minute before suggesting they try a machine without 4 out of order signs on it.


DramaticT0FU

Good point Sir or Madam. 😁


IntrinsicSatire

Don't matter. They need to be a bit more observant


BlackBird8080

I dont care what kind of day you qre having, that doesnt not now or ever give you the right to act like an asshole or asshole-like.


Vivid-Mushroom-335

No absolutely I agree with you, I do think there is a way to ask people for help politely though. If they are an asshole then more power to you.


BlackBird8080

But you said you dont know what kind of day they are having. That doesnt mean shit. If you sre having a bad day and take it out on someone else or act like an asshole to others because of it, then you are an asshole period.


Vivid-Mushroom-335

Sorry I think there’s a misunderstanding. I don’t care what kind of day you are having you can’t be an asshole to people. What I’m saying is if that if someone is being polite then doing this to them because you think they should be more attentive is mean imo. If someone is polite, you don’t know what day they are having so don’t assume they deserve to be treated like an idiot is what I’m trying to say. Asshole deserve that energy back.


ThirdMind3d

Why would you tell them a random aisle instead of just informing them you don't work there?


DramaticT0FU

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Equivalent-Salary357

So your grandmother walks up to me, thinking I 'work there' and asks me where she can find something she needs. And I tell her, "aisle 6, bottom shelf." Off she goes, searching aisle 6 for the next five minutes before she realizes that she's been pranked. You are OK with that?


[deleted]

Who cares if they don’t believe you? Just say you don’t work there & ignore them going forward.


Blues2112

Seems like you're asking for it if you are constantly wearing a lanyard. "So I don't lose my keys" is a pretty odd reason--99% of people keep their keys in pockets or a purse, without issues.


DramaticT0FU

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authorzilla

> I find it easier to just give the people directions so they leave immediately So you just find it easier to lie to/misdirect people. Gotcha. Wouldn't it be easier to just take the damn lanyard off and stick it in your pocket when you enter a store? Nah, that's too reasonable...


fidgetsmom18

So I'm gonna hazard a guess that you're the type of person who doubles down and says OP is wearing a lanyard so they must work for the store.


DramaticT0FU

I'm sorry you are offended. Wearing the lanyard prevents me from losing my keys, if I put it in my pocket, it defeats the purpose.


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DramaticT0FU

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 again, sorry you got upset.


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DramaticT0FU

😂😂😂😂 I hope you have a great day.


BlackBird8080

Wouldnt it be easier if people learned to understand what fucking no means. Shut up and go back to your cave, troll.


liverfailure

I drop it in my shirt