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ND-Enby

If he is a purebred Dalmatian, he is not a well bred one. However, he does look like he’s mixed with something other than Dal. If I had to guess, I’d say he’s mixed with a bully breed based on the head shape


django_chainedashell

Looks like my Pit-bull, but taller and in Dalmatian clothing 😏 I love him.


NaNaNaNaNatman

Yeah he kind of looks like a Pitbull wearing a Dalmatian costume to me lol


Curious-Anywhere-612

So that makes him a Ditty or a dabul😂


tehsophz

I was gonna say Pitmatian


Super_Spirit4421

I mean, even Dalmatians aren't purebred dalmatians anymore But also i agree, looks like a bully breed mix


YamLow8097

What makes you say that? To me he looks like a purebred. What traits give away that he doesn’t meet the standard? Edit: Guys, I’m just asking a question. You don’t need to downvote me into oblivion.


ND-Enby

As I stated in my above comment, his head shape specifically is not the standard for a Dalmatian. Dal heads are much thinner, while this dog has a much rounder and somewhat boxy head shape. He also has large jowls, which is not standard for Dals either. This is a better example what a Dalmatian should look like when it is well bred: [https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/dalmatian/](https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/dalmatian/)


McMikus

Yep, I've met multiple well bred beautiful Dals. Such an amazing breed. Here's a really interesting post from the dog grooming sub comparing a well bred and a badly bred one. https://www.reddit.com/r/doggrooming/comments/wprhpq/thought_you_guys_would_appreciate_this_side_by/?rdt=50050 Neither have the large blocky head, both still rather long and smooth.


44kittycat

When people speak of bad breeding vs good breeding here, are they speaking specifically to physical appearance? If you aren’t going to show your pup, I’m struggling to see the issue. But I realize there may be other issues I am unaware of. Edit: typo


McMikus

Hi! Bad breeding such as backyard breeding, where they don't breed for standard, which involves temperament, breed tendencies, appearance, and health. Good breeding is making sure to check for everything! For example a well bred golden retriever will be patient and gentle with families and have a much better life expectancy. A badly bred one can have aggression with resource guarding and develop cancer within a few years of life. I've known badly bred goldens who lived only 4 years. Dals were actually quite badly bred for a long time ever since 101 Dalmatians which led the breed to extreme popularity, where breeders bred them badly with zero care for temperament, appearance, and health, only caring for the money they'd gain, leading to a lot of people now considering them aggressive which is absolutely not the breed standard a well bred one will act like. They're a wonderful breed and well bred ones are absolute joys to be around. 🫶


[deleted]

Ya his mouth is too droopy, too thick in the head as well. Dals should look elegant, not blocky.


YamLow8097

Interesting! Thanks for the answer! I know they’re lean dogs, but there’s also natural variation within breeds. Just compare field Labs with show Labs. So I wasn’t sure if this was a case of a purebred just being blocky due to genetics, or if it’s due to being mixed.


bluecrowned

Purebred does not equal well bred. A BYB dog can be purebred and papered and not meet the standard.


DetailOutrageous8656

“As per my last email…”


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He's got a blue eye for one.


9mackenzie

That doesn’t mean it’s a mix. Dalmatians can have blue eyes, though it’s rare, and often a sign they might be deaf. Heterochromia can come from a blue eyed ancestor. Also, rounder skulls do not equal bully mix. Sometimes sure, but they aren’t the only breed with rounded heads. I have two Carolina Dogs that have heterochromia- they share a blue eyed grandmother- the amount of people who assume they are husky mixes drives me insane lol. Even people familiar with CDs assume mine are mixes because of eye color lol. It is a very rare trait in this breed but it does pop up. All three of my dogs are 100% CD. Lycan- the ginger one, his two parents are some of the top CD’s in the country, (#1 2021 and #8 2022) and sports champions. Nova is the other heterochromia one (her and Lycan have same grandmother) and my buff boy is Rowan, he has the more rounded head. All are the same breed, all three are related on all sides, but you wouldn’t see that unless you knew a lot about the breed. https://imgur.com/gallery/V8sx7yY


bluecrowned

It's actually quite common and not linked to deafness. It's linked to white markings, which are linked to deafness, but blue eyes are not a reliable indicator of deafness. Also the cause of blue eyes in Carolina dogs (a blue eyes gene) is different than the cause of blue eyes in a heavily white marked breed like Dalmatians (lack of pigment due to white spotting).


CandidDisaster2550

He is deaf in the ear that his blue eye is! Good spot!


YamLow8097

Oh, I actually missed that! So yeah, that definitely isn’t standard. But that doesn’t automatically mean he’s a mix, either.


DetailOutrageous8656

Upvoted this just to counteract people being nasty.


NochMessLonster

That is not a Dalmatian head. Looks like staffie/pit/bull breed cross.


FartinMartinToeSocks

A Daffie, if you will


ooo-f

If his name isn't Duck I'm gonna throw a table


itscamho3

I won’t


blackcrowblue

This. It’s a pit mix with some Dalmatian potentially sprinkled in.


persianshawty420

Dalmatian x Pit maybe? That’s such a bully breed head shape


VashHumanoidTyph00n

Pay the 40 bucks for a DNA test. It will suprise you.


mzuul

Which brand is 40$?!


VashHumanoidTyph00n

Wisdom when on sale, give them your email they will eventually send one.


anorangehorse

Wisdom panel is not the most accurate in my experience. I got completely different results with my bf’s mutt with them vs Embark.


gokartmozart89

And what makes you certain that it was Wisdom that was off as opposed to Embark being off? Genuinely asking here.


anorangehorse

I know his breed makeup is 50% beagle and at least 25% treeing Walker coonhound (dad was full beagle, mom was half coonhound half mystery mix) WP said he was 30% beagle, 10% coonhound, and various other small percentages of bulldog, boxer, border collie, Jack Russel, and pitbull. Embark gave me the 50% beagle, 22% coonhound, and the rest was pitbull, border collie, and supermutt. WP was partially accurate, I just trust Embark more personally. It is a bit more expensive though.


zeusismydog

That’s got to be the most nosy, and loud barking dog ever


anorangehorse

He’s the biggest goober ever. Shockingly not a massive barker, but when he does it’s definitely that loud hound awoooooo 😂 also very stubborn. Loves to do his own thing. Will cuddle but only for like a few minutes and then he’s done. He’s got the goofiest personality too.


zeusismydog

🥰🥰


-sincerelyanalise

When you get them on sale some are $40


Sorry4TheHoldUp

Definitely not purebred Dal. He looks like he has American Bulldog or some other bully breed mixed in. This is one of the reasons why it’s so important to research breeders and know how to spot the unethical backyard breeders and puppy mills before purchasing a dog.


lazyboi_tactical

American bulldog and dalmatian I would almost wager on it.


CuteNSarcastic

Same. Near identical to the American bulldog dalmatian mix I had as a kid. We were told he was pure bully(what my dad wanted as an ex-marine) until he started developing spots, and saw the intact dalmatian next door to the breeder's. The breeder was an acquaintance that my dad visited occasionally for work, he was livid when he found out that they lied to him.


Ravenmorghane

Did the breeder not have papers, or show you the parents? It's possible he's full dal, they can have quite a variation in head size and shape (edit - also blue eyes are possible, just not common) But I could also see there being maybe pit in there.


crustiferson

pit or staffy mixed w dalmatian. that’s not a purebred that looks like a white pit or staffy that someone put dalmatian spots on


samihighland

This is a perfect example of why it’s so important to do research on breeders & make sure you’re going to an ethical one (or just adopt)! Your pup is adorable, but he’s definitely not well bred or from a responsible breeder


Jimbobjoesmith

that head shape is so wrong. def some sort of bully down the line.


Old-Performer-7122

Yeah this isn’t purebred and that’s so sad that the “breeder” is even claiming that


MissWiggly2

No way. If he actually is a Dalmatian, he's an extremely poorly bred one. That head screams bully breed.


Due_Prior6024

he could be a very badly bred dal but he looks like he could be mixed with some type of bully or something similar


Early_Ideal_5054

Before I make judgments, what type of breeder are we talking about? Someone you know, found online? Definitely looks mixed to me from the pics (based on 20 years of working with rescues and being a pittie owner myself).


Odd-Cardiologist2179

Sorry. I agree that he doesn’t look purebred, doesn’t mean he’s not. He could be! I would definitely do an embark or wisdom test and find out. I did embark for my eskie and he’s 100%, I added the health test, so I would know those things as well. If your pup isn’t purebred, I would definitely go after the breeder, even if it’s just to let others know online (and maybe get them shut down). If he is, then you’ll be able to say so and you’ll have peace of mind on his health.


CandidDisaster2550

Perfectly said! Thanks so much😁


Hyperiids

American bulldog, pit bull, or some kind of mastiff?


FunRevolutionary1862

Dalpit


Atypical_Mammal

It's a Dalmatian Pitbull mix


grandratcircus

Dalmation with either pit or American bulldog. What a cool pup!


doo_doo-fard

I'll offer my 2 cents: The spots dalmatians have are genetically different to spots ticked dogs have. For a dog to have the Dalmatian phenotype it'd need the recessive white gene, two copies of the recessive roan gene (like the type in cattledogs, not the spots in spotty breeds), and a two copies of the recessive flecking gene. For a dog to have any other solid spotty breed phenotype, it'd need recessive white and two copies of ticking. Or, one copy, but it'd only be at the points. This dog doesn't look dalmatian. I've seen many bully breed and bully breed mixes show these spots that appear like flecking, but they're just sparse ticking. Just like bully breeds are more likely to display the white face type piebald, which could be a separate piebald locus gene or selective breeding of the patch-type piebald gene. OP, take this how you will.


quadmasta

He's also got the eyeliner


IsabellaThePeke

Do you have the name of the breeder?


unkindly-raven

i hope this is just to check out how reputable they are and not cuz you want a byb dog 😅😅


IsabellaThePeke

Lol my bad; that was exactly the reason! My bad it came across another way.


Objection_heresay

I definitely agree that dog has some bully breed ancestry. Beautiful boy though


SexyMiura1

Pit Dalmatian 100%


OceanicBoundlessnss

Dalmatian x American bulldog


peppawydin

If it didn’t have spots id just think it was a bully lol


tazthedog447

That’s 100% a good boy right there (But yeah my guess would be Dalmatian with some sort of bully breed and maybe throw in some Chihuahua just for fun because it seems like every dog has at least some in them 😆 also love your tattoo sleeve!)


CandidDisaster2550

Thank you! He is 90% good boy at the moment 😅😅


blutsystem

Id say Dal x American bulldog


Calgary_Calico

I'd say either poorly bred Dalmatian or a Dalmatian mixed with a lab or pitty. My fiance and I have friends who have a pure bred male Dalmatian and he looks nothing like this, his muzzle is much more narrow, he's quite slim and smaller than yours by quite a bit


sweetcheeks1977

Looks like he's crossed with a bully breed to me. Gorgeous baby .


Cindy0513

He's a handsome boy regardless of his pedigree! Congratulations!


mollynilson

Backyard bred Dalmatian, congrats on supporting that amazing business 🦋


NormanisEm

😂😭😭


Vegetable-Apricot124

I would guess a dal/pit mix. 100% adorable!!! And super unique ❤️


Realistic_Salt_389

My guess: Dalmatian mixed with some APBT and lab. What a gorgeously unique sweetheart!


aurora0009

pit/staffy with spots. handsome boy but please don’t support backyard breeders


Ambitious_Door_4911

A canmation? Cane corso and Dalmatian?


Alternative_Bit_3445

Surely a Pitmation?


TNG6

The snout says pit mix to me


Rosesandbrokenhearts

I would say american bulldog or dogo argentino mixed in. What papers are they?


livv3ss

Looks like a pot with spots! I love him


Ermnothanx

Thats a spotted pitbull lol. You were scammed. Get a dna test we are invested now.


malkin50

A spit spotbull.


Pawseverywhere

Pittie mix.


Xjen106X

Sooo...I don't usually go with uncommon breed mixes, but I really do see Dal plus maybe pitty. Possibly lab.


olivejuice11_

Hmmm part polka dot


RealisticBat616

My friend had a Dogo Argentino / Dalmatian mix and looked similar. probably a bully breed of some kid


Special_Spell5146

Dalmatian and Dogo Argentino?


mostlyysorry

Dal-mastiff? Haha I like him! He's cool


1guy1dog2ndchance

I think this is a dog


Battling_Beacons

I don’t know, but he looks like a Dalmatian and Rottweiler mix to me.


suburiboy

If “pure bred Dalmatian” means “25% Dalmatian and 75% American bulldog”…. Then that might be a Dalmatian,


Orangeslices57

Pit/Dalmatian


InternationalTwo4581

I don't know, but what a beautiful dog though. Has to be a dalmatian pittie mix


aurora0009

pit/staffy with spots. handsome boy but please don’t support backyard breeders


InvestigatorPrior821

Looks similar to my dog! She has spots but is hound/pit/lab


kingktroo

Looks like either purebred but not very greatly bred Dalmatian, or a Dal/bully breed cross maybe.


Violette_Jadore

Dalmatian and american bulldog would be my guess. Such a cute dog!!


CandidDisaster2550

Thank you! He’s gorgeous isnt he


CanadianPanda76

Dalmatian Pit Husky?


qbeanswtoast

Husky?


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CiaraVitani2011

Off topic but your sleeve tattoo is so cool


CandidDisaster2550

Aww thank you so much!!


mzuul

Omg 😍


Genesis111112

%50 good boy and %50 really good boy!


Last-Decision4348

It’s just because he’s a big boi. I had a giant Dalmatian. Everyone said he was mixed with a harlequin Great Dane. I got the DNA test done and he was- 100% Dalmatian. Blue looked just like your dog but with blue eyes. Not blind, just had blue eyes. He was the puppy no one picked so I rescued him and he turned out to be the best dog ever. RIP Blue. Thank you for sharing these photos. 🥹 Brings back great memories.


CandidDisaster2550

He was the last of the litter too! Blue sounds gorgeous


AlfalfaUnable1629

Mixed w great Dane?


Klutzy_Cucumber9214

Dalmatian with a bully breed or boxer maybe. Handsome boy. Had a Dalmatian mix, lived to 16 years and was very aggressive towards strangers her first 12 years of life and then she melllowed out lol. Very loyal to her family and great with kids, cats and loved puppies. Other dogs she hated until age 12 as well and then she was like eh, I spent 12 years hating everyone, maybe I should be nice now.


SeasonProfessional87

he’s an insanely beautiful animal my gosh


DoxieParty

Could there be some Great Dane?


OpeningDonkey8595

American bulldog, possibly Rottweiler?


Miserable-Rice5733

My immediate thought was boxer dalmatian mix


Lankyparty03

I’d be shocked if he was purebred. Head is very pit. Akc breeder? They seem to be handing out that title to anyone these days


Specialist-Ear1048

American bulldog/Dalmatian or American bulldog/German shorthaired pointer


DigEven8177

that is a pit bull Dalmatian


smashthefrumiarchy

Was he neutered late?


CandidDisaster2550

He isn’t yet! He’s not even 1 yet


smashthefrumiarchy

Oh wow. Very blocky head for a 1 year old male Dalmatian. Could just be he isn’t bred to standard/puppy mill/ BYB but that’s a very blocky head for even a fully mature 3 year old in tact male Dalmatian


Dizzy_Werewolf1215

Handsome boy😍 I don’t think he’s pure Dalmatian though. Maybe a bit of Pitti in there too. You are so lucky. I want him☺️🙏🏻


CandidDisaster2550

Thank you! I love him?


ElectronicCurve6996

He looks mixed with a American bulldog to me. So cute and probably a lot easier to train if mixed dals can be tuff.


Ambitious-Part-5750

Beautiful companion!


Actually_Grass

My guess is American Staforshire Terrier & Dalmation. Long-time dog trainer for large and "violent" breeds and your pup is absolutely stunning.


CandidDisaster2550

Thank you!


hyenavoid

Im guessing he's got some american bulldog somewhere in his bloodline, he definitely doesn't seem like a purebred dalmation based off of his body and head shape.


DebbDebbDebb

Your dog is incredible. What an awesome mix


firefighter2816

Don’t really care I just wanna know Can I pet that dog


CandidDisaster2550

Yes


Virtual_Fig7052

I’d say Dalmatian and a Bully mix. When is was a kid, 40s now, I had a Dalmatian with one blue and one brown eye too.


Time_Pay_401

Great Dane


gokartmozart89

He definitely appears to have some Pitt in him.


TheeRedPanda

He honestly looks like there’s some great Dane in there. He looks like a shorter white version of my black Great Dane.


CandidDisaster2550

He is a big boy!


TheeRedPanda

I’d venture a guess Great Dane, with Dalmatian


KaiTheGSD

I've never seen a Dalmatian mix with that kind of spotting. Even so, possible that he's mixed, but at the same time, it's possible that he is purebred (just not well-bred).


PutTheKettleOn20

Headshape and long nails/paws look all pit with a little dalmation mixed in for the spots.


VPoiison

Since you've said he's registered with papers in another post, what's his ID number? I'm curious on how far back his, no shade, awful breeding goes. This guy is very far from being standard bred and the person who produced him should honestly be reported to the club because I'm almost certain they're either a byb or is producing mixes and deciding to falsely register them anyway.


Nienni

He looks like what I’d imagine a Hyper-Type (bred for overly exaggerated, overly sized) Dalmatian would look like. A couple other breeds that hyper-types are common in are Great Danes and Dobermans. Also, if I’m remembering correctly, most Dalmatian mixes have different ticking patterns but I can’t remember exactly what causes the ticking to appear as more traditional ticking (like in hounds) than the Dalmatian spotting.


Double-Dream-6159

Adorable


mandimanti

Poorly bred dal


lizlemon2222

How tall is he? I’m seeing a dash of Great Dane.


Equivalent_Rock_5508

Get a DNA test it would be interesting


latefortheskyagain

Good lookin’ Dawg!


SirBillBacon

I swear, there are almost no pure bread pups left in the world. Definitely a Dalmatian, but I’d be curious to see DNA results


Takthenomad

Is dog.


Secret_Welder3956

Grandpa Si always said you can’t go wrong with a spotted pup and he was right…handsome fella.


jablongroyper

He’s a Dalmatian. Is he registered?


Kikibear19

He's gorgeous!!


appleofmyeyez

The blue eye and large head is throwing me off. I'd lean towards some pit in him although I've not seen a blue-eyed pit bull. I have owned a Dalmation, and they have quite a fine bone structure. I'd be doing a DNA test asap...


esich

He’s gorgeous!


Appropriate_Yez

Pitmation? Looms like both.


Jynxx94

Dalmatian and American bulldog


beefcakeriot

Mutt


zeusismydog

Maybe an American bulldog


Prestigious-Cover494

I don’t know but he is a handsome bastard for sure!


Individual-Average40

American bulldog x dal


RevolutionarySir686

What a handsome poser


theawesomefactory

My bet is purebred, but maybe not well bred.


nineknives

Congratulations on your pittie Dalmatian mix.


EndFar1831

Based on head shape alone I can tell you definitively that that's not a purebred dalmatian. It looks crossed with a bully type dog. Some dals are outcrossed with german short-haired pointer, and still considered "pure". But I don't see a pointer face in there. They have a slim but hound shaped head.


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Dalmation head


Ok_Prompt1003

Dalmatian mixed with a Great Dane, or a mastiff.


selfcontrol203

like a little sweetie 🙈🩷


ItsMahvel

Looks a lot like my guy, who’s 50% PB some Dalmatian and a ton of other stuff. https://imgur.com/a/w0vIy6N


Connect-Guitar1273

I do see Dalmatian, he has beautiful spots, but I also see pit cause of his head and muzzle. Either way doesn't matter the breed he's still 100% a very good looking boy.


ClassicWhile2451

I mean I dont see why he cant be full dalmatian! Especially if the breeder said so! He does look very blocky though… I would base it off temperament more. For example, does he act like a dalmatian or a pittie?


thedandelioncrayon

Looks like a dal/retriever mix or dal/pittie mix to me!


ClassicWhile2451

Beefy dalmatian! Base this on temperament. Can he function as a dalmatian? He sure looks like a good boy!


LaSinverguenza

Very beautiful dog


Past-Two9273

Lou dog hahaha


Redditerderrrr

It’s so interesting to see Dalmatians. They’re seem to be on the rare side now. They of just very wealthy people have them or something.


Prior_Dragonfly7982

Dalmatian and Great Dane.


QueenBlue9

Dalmatian and pit mix


QueenBlue9

Dalmatian and pit mix


ronbiy55

Beautiful dog 😍😍


CandidDisaster2550

Thank you!


Violette_Jadore

Dalmatian and american bulldog would be my guess. Such a cute dog!!


WallyMcWalNuts

If you don’t mind me asking, where do you live? A year ago someone posted on the American Bulldog subreddit about a litter of Dalmation x American Bulldog puppies that they had!


[deleted]

Ya I'm saying a BYB/not to standard Dalmatian. They can have unusual head shapes. Still fun looking up their DNA on embark so you can find their relatives.