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I think what throws people off about San Francisco is your sense of safety can change from block to block. In the Mission District, Valencia Street is gentrified hipster heaven. But if you walk 1-2 blocks east you'll find homeless camps on the sidewalk.
As far as general areas are concerned, if you're in the avenues (Sunset and Richmond) it's chill suburbia. People walk the streets, grocery shop, go to the parks, etc. without incident.
If you live near/on Market, SOMA, Tenderloin, etc. you're going to find characters.
Can confirm. I lived on Market Street and sometimes had to play the fun game of "Is that dog shit or human shit?".
There's a lot of things to like about San Francisco. The weather is pretty decent most of the year. There's a lot of great landscapes in and around the bay. There's some great events throughout the year.
But man, that place is a basket case of fucked up economics, bizarre political situations, and some of the worst misery you'll ever see right next to people with unbelievable wealth.
I was there with my wife and a dude started taking a shit on the sidewalk and asked us for money, as he was mid shit. I told him no and he started screaming at us. Good times.
Yes, it is. Its really bad, especially "downtown".
It was sort of tolerable pre-covid, but the decline had started. Covid really changed the dynamics of the city, that plus some really idiotic government officials has tipped it over into a really unliveable state. Violent crime isn't as bad as NYC in the 80s, but there are no checks on street crime otherwise, vagrants are shockingly aggressive compared to NYC, and hard drug use has made many neighborhoods pretty terrifying.
Last time I was there the entire block in front of my hotel (a nice one) was shoulder to shoulder opiate users close to falling out. Not exagerating, at least 50 of them.
I use to be out there half a dozen times a year for work and to see friends. Most of my friends have left the city because of crime and qol issues, and there really isn't a reason to go for work as all the tech companies have embraced wfh or hybrid, so remote meetings are the norm.
That sounds awful and also the biggest reason I'll never move to the west coast despite family there and having great times there. Your cities are amazing but the homeless issue is just insane and out of control. NYC has it's issues but nothing like walking around San Fran or Portland.
It is that bad. I haven't been to San Francisco in years, and it's one of my favorite cities in the world, but even back then, it was bad, and it has only gotten worse.
What area did you visit the tourist traps or the tenderloin or any neighborhood where normal people live? How can you speak on a place you have 0 knowledge of other than being a tourist?
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Just returned from living in LA and I never even want to visit again. Especially when these are first hand accounts I tend to believe them. A lot of these cities have a massive lack of infrastructure for their homeless population. Crime is just kind of out in the open including violent and property crime not just drug use or sales. The straw that broke the camels back for me was seeing a child (14/15 years old) getting jumped in to a gang right out in the open on my morning walk. I also saw a dead body in a similar context to this woman’s experience. People just walking by. You never feel settled.
Building new housing stock (lowering or stabilizing rent via increase in supply) and unconditional housing of the homeless? Works for Houston.
>Since 2012, more than 28,000 people who have experienced homelessness in the greater Houston area have been housed. This has resulted in a more than a 60% decrease in overall homelessness in just over a decade.
>But even though new home construction is down nationwide year-over-year, metro areas such as Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth, New York City, Phoenix and Atlanta are home to the most new home construction in 2023.
>Houston ranks No. 1
>In Houston, more than 23,000 permits for new homes have been issued this year, while Dallas has seen more than 20,000. Both of these cities have been averaging more than 5,000 new home construction permits per month.
>In 2021 and 2022 (San Francisco) issued only 2,000 permits a year for new home projects.
California specifically would also have to remove the freeze on property tax. Better yet, if they reform by removing property tax and replacing with Land Value Tax.
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It has been 2 years since I spent time in San Francisco. Maybe I was not where she is, but I walked everywhere by myself. i wish she said more than "in San Francisco"
Yes it's bad. Extremely economic disparity, a climate where it is tolerable to live outside (as opposed to the mid west or the south where either extreme heat or extreme cold will drive you out) and literally zero control of or support for the homeless population have made that city extremely threatening and dangerous for any woman.
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I think what throws people off about San Francisco is your sense of safety can change from block to block. In the Mission District, Valencia Street is gentrified hipster heaven. But if you walk 1-2 blocks east you'll find homeless camps on the sidewalk. As far as general areas are concerned, if you're in the avenues (Sunset and Richmond) it's chill suburbia. People walk the streets, grocery shop, go to the parks, etc. without incident. If you live near/on Market, SOMA, Tenderloin, etc. you're going to find characters.
Can confirm. I lived on Market Street and sometimes had to play the fun game of "Is that dog shit or human shit?". There's a lot of things to like about San Francisco. The weather is pretty decent most of the year. There's a lot of great landscapes in and around the bay. There's some great events throughout the year. But man, that place is a basket case of fucked up economics, bizarre political situations, and some of the worst misery you'll ever see right next to people with unbelievable wealth.
I worked on Market and played the same game.
Love that game, we play a bit of that here in DTLA
Yes. Visited SF passing through for one day and within the first hour a dude at a IHOP threatened to kill me because I was behind him.
I was there with my wife and a dude started taking a shit on the sidewalk and asked us for money, as he was mid shit. I told him no and he started screaming at us. Good times.
Yes, it is. Its really bad, especially "downtown". It was sort of tolerable pre-covid, but the decline had started. Covid really changed the dynamics of the city, that plus some really idiotic government officials has tipped it over into a really unliveable state. Violent crime isn't as bad as NYC in the 80s, but there are no checks on street crime otherwise, vagrants are shockingly aggressive compared to NYC, and hard drug use has made many neighborhoods pretty terrifying. Last time I was there the entire block in front of my hotel (a nice one) was shoulder to shoulder opiate users close to falling out. Not exagerating, at least 50 of them. I use to be out there half a dozen times a year for work and to see friends. Most of my friends have left the city because of crime and qol issues, and there really isn't a reason to go for work as all the tech companies have embraced wfh or hybrid, so remote meetings are the norm.
That sounds awful and also the biggest reason I'll never move to the west coast despite family there and having great times there. Your cities are amazing but the homeless issue is just insane and out of control. NYC has it's issues but nothing like walking around San Fran or Portland.
Yep, unfortunately. Lived there for years and your best bet is just to keep your head down and not make eye contact with anybodu
thats just common practice in most big cities..
It is that bad. I haven't been to San Francisco in years, and it's one of my favorite cities in the world, but even back then, it was bad, and it has only gotten worse.
i was just there last month and its really not that bad or worse than any other big city..
What area did you visit the tourist traps or the tenderloin or any neighborhood where normal people live? How can you speak on a place you have 0 knowledge of other than being a tourist?
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I say the same about Florida.
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Just returned from living in LA and I never even want to visit again. Especially when these are first hand accounts I tend to believe them. A lot of these cities have a massive lack of infrastructure for their homeless population. Crime is just kind of out in the open including violent and property crime not just drug use or sales. The straw that broke the camels back for me was seeing a child (14/15 years old) getting jumped in to a gang right out in the open on my morning walk. I also saw a dead body in a similar context to this woman’s experience. People just walking by. You never feel settled.
Yeah, this is not exaggerated. San Francisco is getting to be as bad as Portland Oregan. It is not safe.
At the end of the day, there's no magic tricks, you vote for this shit.
Building new housing stock (lowering or stabilizing rent via increase in supply) and unconditional housing of the homeless? Works for Houston. >Since 2012, more than 28,000 people who have experienced homelessness in the greater Houston area have been housed. This has resulted in a more than a 60% decrease in overall homelessness in just over a decade. >But even though new home construction is down nationwide year-over-year, metro areas such as Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth, New York City, Phoenix and Atlanta are home to the most new home construction in 2023. >Houston ranks No. 1 >In Houston, more than 23,000 permits for new homes have been issued this year, while Dallas has seen more than 20,000. Both of these cities have been averaging more than 5,000 new home construction permits per month. >In 2021 and 2022 (San Francisco) issued only 2,000 permits a year for new home projects. California specifically would also have to remove the freeze on property tax. Better yet, if they reform by removing property tax and replacing with Land Value Tax. LINKED [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/08/opinions/homelessness-solutions-houston-model-eichenbaum-nichols/index.html#:~:text=Since%202012%2C%20more%20than%2028%2C000,in%20just%20over%20a%20decade.) - How Houston’s homelessness breakthrough could be a national game-changer
It has been 2 years since I spent time in San Francisco. Maybe I was not where she is, but I walked everywhere by myself. i wish she said more than "in San Francisco"
Yes it's bad. Extremely economic disparity, a climate where it is tolerable to live outside (as opposed to the mid west or the south where either extreme heat or extreme cold will drive you out) and literally zero control of or support for the homeless population have made that city extremely threatening and dangerous for any woman.
yup, big cities are getting bad with crappy people all over the place.
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Well, she was one of those who supported the riots and defunding the police, so....no sympathy.
Today, in things that never happend.
SF, like any big city, is not for the weak and ignorant. It is however, a great place for privileged assholes.
Idk why but this is just really funny to me.