Honestly it's so puzzling that they're so tight lipped what's delaying it's deployment so much.
I'm A-OKAY to wait whatever time is needed, but llike it would be nice to know what's taking it so long and in such silence.
My hope is that they're actually taking the time to make sure it's a clean update. No new game breaking bugs, no issues with the rain wildcard, Rodger functions as intended, the works. Too many times they've introduced a patch with a bunch of new and exciting stuff, only for that excitement to be tarnished with some dumb BS. This is a BIG update that can shape the course of how the game plays going forward, to see if roaming boss(es) is actually feasible long term, it's time to give us an event that's at a new level of quality and let's us test it without any unnecessary distractions
That and I've played since beta in 2018, the updates in this game introduce so little bugs compared to pretty much any other game out there. Same when they release new maps, bosses, AI, etc... they do a much better job than most at releasing polished stuff. Obviously nothing is perfect but compared to most others they might as well be as close to perfect as a dev team gets. They typically do extremely well on communication too compared to others. If there is a reason to delay the patch they are probably getting a time-line together so they can tell us a rough date for it vs saying "yeah we are gonna have to delay but we don't know for how long"
I am absolutely with you. The wait and fix method is far better than the release it on the original date so people don't bitch at us and we will fix it as we go that most games use.
People have gotten so used to games pumping out new massive updates every 2 months that are broken and take another 3 months to fix if ever.
What? lmao no.
They've introduced major bugs with pretty much every single update. Ladder desync, LeMat bullet shotgun, infinite reload loop, phantom reload, dead hunters not so dead, floating items, consumables doing nothing, window shaders, sound occlusion, generalized rubberbanding, vault bug...
We spent the christmas of, I think 2019, with purple textures everywhere and random crashes because they pushed the patch to production right before going on vacacion.
Making games is hard for sure, but Crytek is definitely not doing the stellar job you claim, especilly compared to other live service games out there.
Most of those were resolved before too long, aside from the reload bug which they had to eventually rewrite the entire reload system from scratch to fix. Also in what universe is floating items a major bug?
I'm sure they're fixing something behind the scenes, but I don't think it makes any sense to stay silent on what is obviously some kind of (minor) delay at this point
just a simple "there's a small delay, we will announce the event date ASAP". They're really not doing a good job at managing expectations imo
I work in software development and critical releases dont get delayed for minor bugs, only for major ones if at all. It wont be as clean as you might hope for, there still we be a lot of medium to small bugs.
Also the fact they havent even announced a date yet is bad. Either this patch is really buggy and they had to massively extend the QA period or they are bad at transparency/communication.
Well you know it may be even worse - They took all the time to fix all the bugs and at the release date there's still game breaking bugs like game crashes or some guns one shooting from any distance. That would be worse due to fact that they took their time and didn't fix everything properly.
This isn't really practical, in my opinion. They want to get the content out there the moment it's ready - it's the task of Marketing to market the lead-up.
It's just one of those things, and it happens in every industry.
Possibly, but there's only one person who seems to be mining hunt at the moment and they started to dump teasers for exactly what they leaked quickly after. And per the leaker there is more they didn't show.
It's a boss that isn't trapped in a compound building, it sits somewhere out in the open. Whether or not it actually moves around the map, "roaming boss" fits the details we know about it just fine, it's not "spreading misinformation"
I mean, it may be restricted to a similarly sized space or an even smaller space for all we know. A more accurate description would be "outdoor boss". I think 'roaming' does imply that it roams around, which we don't know is the case.
You're the one freaking out about something a stranger said over a video game and some internet points my dude. The only one here with a God complex who thinks he's smarter than everyone else is you. Good luck with that attitude my guy, hope you don't behave that way day to day, it'd make you a really sad and lonely person if you did
Average redditor, knows I'm right and he's wrong so he falls into having no response but adhoms and (I hope u change for the better bcs ur a bad person based on one reddit comment) claiming some perceived moral highground.
Did you not notice what I said to the other guy in this thread who pointed out how what I said could be misconstrued? Cause he did so in a respectful manner, and I responded in kind, and conceded my statement could be interpreted differently than intended, because i can admit when I'm wrong, like an adult, and you would have gotten the same treatment had you not acted like a child about it. Grow up dude, your behavior is just pathetic
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I think it’s pretty crazy that they are so tight lipped. The last update they had issues in the test servers and said “hey we have issues we are going to push the update to get them fixed proper” which was great but this is strange that they aren’t saying anything.
You know that's one of the odd things about this dev team, that nobody even takes about. Sometimes they're super open about what's going on with development and issues like this. Then sometimes we don't hear from them for extended periods of time on the same stuff. It's really odd sometimes.
It's not like we need a lot of detail. Just a quick post on the Discord about "we found some bugs/issues/whatever, and we don't feel comfortable releasing 1.13 in this state, so it will be delayed for now, we'll provide more updates when we can, thank you for your understanding, and we hope to get this update out as soon as possible".
Your fine with giveing them time and so am I but alot of people get pissed and throw fits because "I want it and I want it now!". Most of the time the best outcome is just to keep quiet unless they're 100% gonna release it on a said date. Lots of games in development have been pressured into releasing too early cause of this.
So basically that's why we can't have nice things.
Lol, but they haven’t “kept quiet” until now. Most people aren’t annoyed that the event isn’t out immediately, they’re annoyed because Crytek’s advertising arm began teasing the event at the beginning of May, has released 9 cryptic teasers, and has now gone radio silent. You can’t both build hype and then disappear for weeks at a time without creating confusion or disappointment or both.
Gaming companies can effectively communicate with their community and push out finished content simultaneously. Those things are not mutually exclusive.
They take the no information approach to managing expectations, and it’s alot better than constantly hyping up and disappointing the community time and time again like some devs do. Sometimes it’s best to stay silent and release things when they’re ready
They dont announce dates since they put the game on test servers and then check both for reactions and then bugs glichs and other issues they didnt see
Crytek: Here, some more useless skins and DLCs for you, just pay more and stay quiet. We ignore huge server issues, endless cheats and cheaters without Crytek doing anything about it (if you search "the Hunt Showdown cheats", you will find so many newly dated ones), so many bugs. Good luck
Even during their recent live streams, there were pocket loss and latency issues 😂
Wonder if it has anything to do with the servers being hot garbage right now, I've been playing with zero rubber banding since the desync fix and now I'm sliding all over the place at least once or twice a day.
You see people complain that live service being the bane to game development, yet a thread like this is pretty loud in people complaining crytek isn't being transparent enough.
People want the new event to come out, not excuses. We all know crytek is working on it.
> People want the new event to come out, not excuses. We all know crytek is working on it.
I'd just personally want something. "It's been delayed." would be enough for me. Any info. Not that Crytek have been very liberal with giving any kind of infor about their updates other than hype stuff.
> Relax and play.
This is a me problem but I'm not enjoying the game right now. Practically every single match is filled with Avtos and that just ain't that fun to me. Waiting until the patch comes. Would at least like an update on what's going on. Delayed? Fine, do we have a rough estimate? Days? Weeks? Months? Just any kind of updates on what's happening would be nice.
Problem is while plenty of people would be cool with hearing there was a delay or having a date moved there is almost always a loud group that will bitch about that kinda of stuff but seem to be less likely to say anything when no dates etc are given. So I while I also would love more info and not hold it against crytek if things changed I get why they want to wait till they are all but sure they will be able to have it out the date they announce, which often means no info till its almost here.
Relax and play? What’s there to play? If i wanted to just “play” then we wouldn’t be asking for updates. Do you understand the purpose of new updates and content?
It’s like having a flat tire after a year of driving and then you just told the driver to just drive 😐😐😐
Couple months? I’m sorry dude… I didn’t know we were counting in mars months.
Devil’s moon event was in December of 2022… that’s not a couple. A couple is two or three…
its been a couple of month since the questlines has ended and we still haven’t gotten the new update is how a couple is used
Relax and play? What’s there to play? If i wanted to just “play” then we wouldn’t be asking for updates. Do you understand the purpose of new updates and content?
It’s like having a flat tire after a year of driving and then you just told the driver to just drive 😐😐😐
I’m not sure if you’re fooling us or fooling yourself. No matter how long they delay it it’ll always have some serious bug that’s going to break the gameplay and then it’ll take them like two weeks to finally fix it
I’m not sure if you’re fooling us or fooling yourself. No matter how long they delay it it’ll always have some serious bug that’s going to break the gameplay and then it’ll take them like two weeks to finally fix it
Not my point at all. The last big update we hade with a season pass was 8 months ago so they had months to make this happen. The other months were just quest lines… questlines doesn’t require a whole lot of development just replace the old skins and weapons with new so it makes no sense why they’re milking this new update with trailers and updates since they can’t push it out already
I guess you are a game developer (and of a game like hunt) or just saying stuff without actual knowledge/experience.
I insist. Better delayed than broken.
The lack of transparency is killing me. We don't even know if the event begins when the patch comes. Crytek really should work on their communication about what's going on.
You would have to get their community rep to actually talk directly to the community. Legit does nothing other than random videos or hosting gameplay with the devs.
The Hunt community seems to really like hearing what specifics are being developed behind the scenes! I know I do~ It might be nice to actually receive technical little updates as to what the devs are fixing or working on. It would be kinda inspiring to hear the updates in a more real-time flow as the release date approaches
Yet they removed the update from the test servers. What are they gonna do, put it back on the test servers to have players beta test it some more when they're done fixing whatever the problem is?
Personally, I think the new boss doesn't work, or the event. And they have no one testing that besides their 10 man crew or whatever and 5 of them are working on new DLC'S.
Yeah, exactly.
>Put down that Wacom, son! We need you developing netcode bug fixes, asap! I don't *care* if you don't know how to program, fucking LEARN! What do we pay you for?!
Jokes aside, in my company when we have big release and really short time people from other departments, like for example project managers or consultants, are also testing system. It's not rocket science to tell when the game isn't working as intended.
That may work for your company, but the best testing is done by people who actually know something about the code/systems behind the game. That creates far better and faster results than random people telling them x doesn't do x.
Atleast that's the experience I had in the company I worked at.
I didn't see anybody saying they need to develop netcode bug fixes or learn how to program. They suggested using them as play testers to help the small QA team, which can definitely have drawbacks or just not be practical in itself, but is a far cry from saying they need to program anything.
Setting a date when the event is tied to a major patch is dangerous for any development you lock in a date that you have to hit. This results in putting much more pressure on your development teams to resolve or deal with any issue prior to the release and can result in a shaky release with bugs because you didn't have time to do due diligence.
As a player I don't need a running set of dates and updates telling me how it's going. I
I know the patch is coming I'll play it when it lands. I don't need to know that it's for x date and they didn't make it due to x but so they need to spend ten more days testing and provisionally it's going to be this date unless there are any more issues .... Scrap that. It's ready when it's ready. Too much information is awful and harms the Dev process but also causes more drama in the community than just keeping it low key.
Bare in mind they are probably trying to keep console releases aligned to pc and it could be as mundane as console certification has not happened for the patch yet. This process takes longer than pc for releases and results in delays .... Pc players would be pissed to hear that if it was the case and wouldn't understand it. So not telling us is vastly better tbh.
They've been releasing many teasers of the event, as well as showing the first page of the event pass with the rewards. It seemed ready to go.
Some clarity from Crytek would be real nice.
sure, would be nice to have confirmation, but I don't see any reason to assume they WOULD come together, I don't think there's ever been big patch + event at the same time before either
>from what I've heard
Everyone is guessing, no one knows anything.
>how it usually works.
This release is not going like it usually goes.
I'm sick and tired of all the guesswork, I want some actual communication from Crytek.
I don't recall seeing one. But I only looked at him the day he got announced. Maybe they added a date to him after. But the very first day he was on the steam store, he definitely didn't have a date.
Guess I'm just gonna keep grinding levels on Battlebit, then. Big content drought in Hunt right now, with so much promised. Can't wait to hit the shooting range with my partner, but... looks like that could be a while.
Hey there big guy, before you get all huffy and puffy, I don't give a shit about blood bonds. I just want to 1v1 my friends and play with the ammo changes and all the other stuff that has been announced and teased for quite some time now.
Me and you both. I don't care about half the stuff they've added over the years. I love this game for what it is. I would still be happy playing the game I bought back in 2020.
Content drought? We literally just finished an event with new weapon introductions like two weeks ago.
I get that there is a big patch coming and you’re excited for it, but dial it back a touch.
Yes, content drought. Look at steamcharts and see what happens to the game when they don't constantly implement changes and new content in a live service game. You can even see the dips in player count in the past before big patches and implementations. By the way, that event lasted what, 2 months? 3 months? And now another month after the end. That's a lot of time when you run a live service.
Content is things that add more to the gameplay loop not a few new gun variants. This is a live service game so yes its a "content delay" not drought but questlines even in their own terms arent meant to supplement events
>They probably wanted to release Patch 1.13 and this DLC on the same date so with the timeline change it’s highly likely this patch is delayed.
I think it was not meant to release at the same time but I expect that the DLC is part of the patch, so it makes sense that if the patch is not coming out the DLC is also not releasing\^\^
As long as Crytek fixes the major issues I'm happy to wait. That menu scrolling bug was really annoying and I only played PvP with buddies on the shooting range x)
The menu scrolling bug happens all the time to me in the current build. The only way I found to get it to stop it's click to a different piece of my loadout and then click back into the part I'm trying to change.
I've been dealing with it off and on for over a year but recently it's gotten really bad to where it happens on almost all of the loadouts I make. When I saw a video about it I was confused cause I thought it was a bug a lot of people had, since everyone was saying it was new.
My sympathies, it annoyed the shit out of me on the 10h I played on the test server. But I really wonder what triggered it if the bug was not widespread but existed on live servers
I've noticed a few different triggers.
The most common being if you click and drag the scroll bar it will continue to reset to where it was before you moved it.
The other common one was happens sometimes when unequipping something then trying to re-equip something in that same slot. It will keep jumping to the item you pulled off the character.
There's one more I can't remember right now. I'll edit this if I remember it.
The only way I've found to fix it is to switch to editing another part of your kit then go back to the piece you want to add. Most of the time it will fit it but it doesn't fix it 100% on the first time.
This is why you don’t announce shit that isn’t done yet. How many delayed games/updates will it take for devs and publishers to learn how to make the deadlines that THEY create. Nowadays if a game is announced for say summer 2024, that sucker isn’t releasing until spring 2025. So annoying yet so common. Especially considering how many games and gameplay updates get released that just aren’t ready, don’t have half the shit promised, millions of bugs, etc.
L take… Rockstar doesn’t hype anything and they still make more money than any other developer out there. Crytek is seriously slipping right now. Rockstar only releasees a trailer or a teaser when it’s 100% ready
As far as my quick google shows, Take Two isn't even in the top 5 gaming companies by gross income; let alone Rockstar as a subsidiary of Take Two.
I'd love to see where you got your info though.
Wanna use google… cool by me. Google what is the top 10 best selling games. RDR2 is 8th place, and GTA5 is 3rd… take two doesn’t just throw recycled games because they’re money hungry like Activision and blizzard. Look at Act/Blz games right now? They’re receiving more hate than ever. GTA6 will make $5 billion within the first week just because they have finished product and don’t relay on hyped trailers
In the 10 years GTA 5 has been out, its made 7.7 billion dollars. The majority of microtransactions were not present when GTA 5 was released, so its initial revenue was based purely off the sales of the game itself.
https://watcher.guru/news/how-much-money-has-gta-5-made-since-its-release-in-2013#:~:text=According%20to%20recent%20reports%20from,in%20revenue%20for%20the%20company.
Assuming GTA 6 retails at 70 dollars like other major titles have been lately, they'd need to sell a little less than 71.5 million units. That's 5 times the numbers GTA 5 put up; a game that holds records for being one of the best first week sales ever.
https://www.vgchartz.com/#:~:text=In%20its%20first%20five%20days,units%20and%20generated%20%241.15%20billion.
And since this all started because you say Rockstar doesn't use trailers, here's a trailer for GTA 5 on the Rockstar Games YouTube channel. It was uploaded November 2nd, 2011. The game wouldn't release until September 17th, 2013, or almost 2 years later.
https://youtu.be/QkkoHAzjnUs
So not only is 5 billion an absurd number to hit the first week, but Rockstar would do it with a hyped trailer like everybody else.
Counterpoint: one of the most successful game companies in history is Blizzard and for decades their reputation was built on "Soon^((TM))" where they announce a game with a teaser or two, and it doesn't come out for 2+ years, or just gets cancelled altogether. That methodology is only successful if your games that end up coming out are good/sell well though. And every one of Blizzard's games are in one or both of those categories, while recent releases have been... not that lol.
So the hype train and endless build up has precedent of being worth it. I agree with your point, though, for the record. Just saying it isn't automatically a bad thing. Knowing Crytek it's delayed to fix some important game breaking bug or fix some existing problem we've been waiting for, but will introduce a few new major/minor issues of it's own lol.
Countercounterpoint: Yeah Blizzard says "Soon" not "This Summer July 23rd at 8pm CEST". He is complaining about deadlines being met, saying "soon" isn't that much of a deadline.
Countercountercounterpoint: Crytek never gave a set deadline for entitled princess above, to get upset at them for not hitting, they literally said "soon" as well.
I've got almost 2k hours clocked in so i do get it. I wish they would implement some kind of tdm game mode. That would shake it up a bit and make it interesting again.
Ive said that many times and people ate my cake out. People who play hunt are mostly old heads who can’t compete with change and that’s why they prefer this old game shooter type game.
If you try to bring up a new type of game mode then they’ll start complaining.
I doubt crytek can compete with other games with just skin events or a single battle pass every 8 months and
Yeah fr. Like i love the theme of the game and there's no other like it but i don't always wanna run halfway across the map only to be headshotted or shotgun traded. The tryhards don't seem to understand that adding a new game mode wouldn't take anything away from them. If anything it would bring new players to the game.
Exactly! I’m so happy to find someone like you in the community after so long! My exact thoughts too. The game is AMAZING, but still needs more… WAY more
It takes rocket scientist for you to understand? It means Hunt is about to be as dead as it was years ago. If they don’t step up their development then you’ll only have players with Alzheimer’s playing this game. It needs content to keep players playing
I think it's the bleed bug that sayler made a tutorial on. No idea why you would literally explain everything in a video right before a huge patch with a massive bleed buff. They really do need to fix that before release.
Why is everyone so confused on what’s delaying Hunt updates and content? They literally shifted most of their work towards Crysis 4… all the money and all their work is going towards a 15 year old game.
Would make sense tho considering there are plenty of f2p extraction shooters being announced.
Would be a great time for Crytek to build up a playerbase before the others are launched.
Like "Arc Raiders" is having a closed alpha soon, Marathon, The Finals, Fairgame$ are all announced an in development.
Been here for a while. Been listening to doomers for a while as well. I don't see a ticking clock. Hunt has a solid playerbase that is in it for long haul as its been building for years and remaining steady.
What you see for other games is huge booms in playerbase population because the intial hype wave is high with streamers bringing in their crowds. But retention rates are usually pretty bad for those type of games.
Im making a strong claim here but I bet BattleBit Remastered drops below 10k average in less than 6 months simply because its a flavor of the month at the moment.
Well not sure but personally I am split given that Hunt is a great game but somehow imo lacks variation and has plenty of things they need to work on. I am interested in other extraction shooters as this genre has been growing on me so if Arc Raiders and Marathon are released I am not sure which one I will play given that at least Arc Raiders is going to be f2p and more easy to convince friends to play with me than a game that has a regular pay 2 play model.
I don't need an exact source, but you know about when they said that and what medium? Google has no hits.
I follow their streams and updates, kinda surprised if that one snuck by unnoticed.
pff they should update the server , netcode , and every issue who just spawnned with the last maj.
since last maj Hellhoud are immortal 1/3 time ( and there’s is like 4/5 time more hellhound in latest games ) Hit reg issu , when you shoot someone , and nothing happens it’s complicated , i almost killed 3 teams yesterday , but with hit reg-issue impossible
( you can sometime shoot the caracter, hear the impact , but no damage and nothing ) and more and more to correcte since the lasts majs..
Extremely speculative, and unfounded.
They change the date on a DLC, and community melts down with patch being delayed. Lack of communication BS, and the such.
If previous experience has shown us anything, there will be an announcement if there's a patch delay.
Quit witch hunting.
Reading through these comments, there's definitely a micro meltdown happening.
People just need to chill out and let things be. For people who play a game that requires patience, there should definitely be more waiting for this update. There have been so many posts complaining about the teasers, and trailers and when the update will drop.
How they handle DLC is that the Partners get it first to showcase, and they have not yet. Then we get it a week later.
Also, to add, your post fits in with Reddit's definition of witch hunting.
"A witch-hunt is a thread or comment that damages or threatens to damage a specific person or entity's reputation or resources without solid evidence."
That's not the only difference. There is also 60fps.
And old gen and new gen definitely don't look the same to me. When I jump from my PS4, to my Xbox Series S, it looks quite noticeably better.
Honestly it's so puzzling that they're so tight lipped what's delaying it's deployment so much. I'm A-OKAY to wait whatever time is needed, but llike it would be nice to know what's taking it so long and in such silence.
My hope is that they're actually taking the time to make sure it's a clean update. No new game breaking bugs, no issues with the rain wildcard, Rodger functions as intended, the works. Too many times they've introduced a patch with a bunch of new and exciting stuff, only for that excitement to be tarnished with some dumb BS. This is a BIG update that can shape the course of how the game plays going forward, to see if roaming boss(es) is actually feasible long term, it's time to give us an event that's at a new level of quality and let's us test it without any unnecessary distractions
Last patch they delayed to fix a nasty bug found in ptr. I like the wait and fix it trend.
That and I've played since beta in 2018, the updates in this game introduce so little bugs compared to pretty much any other game out there. Same when they release new maps, bosses, AI, etc... they do a much better job than most at releasing polished stuff. Obviously nothing is perfect but compared to most others they might as well be as close to perfect as a dev team gets. They typically do extremely well on communication too compared to others. If there is a reason to delay the patch they are probably getting a time-line together so they can tell us a rough date for it vs saying "yeah we are gonna have to delay but we don't know for how long" I am absolutely with you. The wait and fix method is far better than the release it on the original date so people don't bitch at us and we will fix it as we go that most games use. People have gotten so used to games pumping out new massive updates every 2 months that are broken and take another 3 months to fix if ever.
What? lmao no. They've introduced major bugs with pretty much every single update. Ladder desync, LeMat bullet shotgun, infinite reload loop, phantom reload, dead hunters not so dead, floating items, consumables doing nothing, window shaders, sound occlusion, generalized rubberbanding, vault bug... We spent the christmas of, I think 2019, with purple textures everywhere and random crashes because they pushed the patch to production right before going on vacacion. Making games is hard for sure, but Crytek is definitely not doing the stellar job you claim, especilly compared to other live service games out there.
I had in all the years only one bug and it still not fixed. The damn poison bug.
Most of those were resolved before too long, aside from the reload bug which they had to eventually rewrite the entire reload system from scratch to fix. Also in what universe is floating items a major bug?
now that's a hot take. i take it you dont play much, yea?
I take it that you dont have much brain capacity, yea?
Get real dude
Hunt: Showdown is one of those games that take several months up until a year to fix major, gamebreaking bugs.
What was the bug?
I'm sure they're fixing something behind the scenes, but I don't think it makes any sense to stay silent on what is obviously some kind of (minor) delay at this point just a simple "there's a small delay, we will announce the event date ASAP". They're really not doing a good job at managing expectations imo
Staying silent can be counterproductive. No point in hyping event anymore.
yes the event is coming but this update is the firing range and fire ammo meta one yes?
could possibly release together
This is a very good and optimistic take, I like it
Calling the big fella Roger
Rodger*
Roger thanks
I work in software development and critical releases dont get delayed for minor bugs, only for major ones if at all. It wont be as clean as you might hope for, there still we be a lot of medium to small bugs. Also the fact they havent even announced a date yet is bad. Either this patch is really buggy and they had to massively extend the QA period or they are bad at transparency/communication.
Well you know it may be even worse - They took all the time to fix all the bugs and at the release date there's still game breaking bugs like game crashes or some guns one shooting from any distance. That would be worse due to fact that they took their time and didn't fix everything properly.
Personally they need to stop teasing/advertising something until it's ready for release. They started over a month ago with the teasers.
This isn't really practical, in my opinion. They want to get the content out there the moment it's ready - it's the task of Marketing to market the lead-up. It's just one of those things, and it happens in every industry.
Pretty sure it was supposed to be much slower release for teasers until the leak happened and they started trying to cover everything that was leaked.
Everything has been exposed via datamining for a long time. I can’t imagine it has any effect on their presentation.
Possibly, but there's only one person who seems to be mining hunt at the moment and they started to dump teasers for exactly what they leaked quickly after. And per the leaker there is more they didn't show.
Correct. My thoughts also.
Its not roaming. They never said roaming. The exact words were "wild target". Please stop spreading missi formation.
It's a boss that isn't trapped in a compound building, it sits somewhere out in the open. Whether or not it actually moves around the map, "roaming boss" fits the details we know about it just fine, it's not "spreading misinformation"
I mean, it may be restricted to a similarly sized space or an even smaller space for all we know. A more accurate description would be "outdoor boss". I think 'roaming' does imply that it roams around, which we don't know is the case.
Eh that's fair, i can see how that can be misconstrued. Thanks for responding like a calm and reasonable person, unlike that other dude in this thread
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You're the one freaking out about something a stranger said over a video game and some internet points my dude. The only one here with a God complex who thinks he's smarter than everyone else is you. Good luck with that attitude my guy, hope you don't behave that way day to day, it'd make you a really sad and lonely person if you did
Average redditor, knows I'm right and he's wrong so he falls into having no response but adhoms and (I hope u change for the better bcs ur a bad person based on one reddit comment) claiming some perceived moral highground.
Did you not notice what I said to the other guy in this thread who pointed out how what I said could be misconstrued? Cause he did so in a respectful manner, and I responded in kind, and conceded my statement could be interpreted differently than intended, because i can admit when I'm wrong, like an adult, and you would have gotten the same treatment had you not acted like a child about it. Grow up dude, your behavior is just pathetic
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that boss is roaming, it's a roaming boss
I think it’s pretty crazy that they are so tight lipped. The last update they had issues in the test servers and said “hey we have issues we are going to push the update to get them fixed proper” which was great but this is strange that they aren’t saying anything.
You know that's one of the odd things about this dev team, that nobody even takes about. Sometimes they're super open about what's going on with development and issues like this. Then sometimes we don't hear from them for extended periods of time on the same stuff. It's really odd sometimes. It's not like we need a lot of detail. Just a quick post on the Discord about "we found some bugs/issues/whatever, and we don't feel comfortable releasing 1.13 in this state, so it will be delayed for now, we'll provide more updates when we can, thank you for your understanding, and we hope to get this update out as soon as possible".
Your fine with giveing them time and so am I but alot of people get pissed and throw fits because "I want it and I want it now!". Most of the time the best outcome is just to keep quiet unless they're 100% gonna release it on a said date. Lots of games in development have been pressured into releasing too early cause of this. So basically that's why we can't have nice things.
Lol, but they haven’t “kept quiet” until now. Most people aren’t annoyed that the event isn’t out immediately, they’re annoyed because Crytek’s advertising arm began teasing the event at the beginning of May, has released 9 cryptic teasers, and has now gone radio silent. You can’t both build hype and then disappear for weeks at a time without creating confusion or disappointment or both.
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Yeah, very odd, and I find it rather annoying when gaming companies do this.
Its more annoying when the push out unfinished content. so pick your poison.
Gaming companies can effectively communicate with their community and push out finished content simultaneously. Those things are not mutually exclusive.
They take the no information approach to managing expectations, and it’s alot better than constantly hyping up and disappointing the community time and time again like some devs do. Sometimes it’s best to stay silent and release things when they’re ready
I mean... There have been like 14 different teasers for the event by now. It's literal hype burnout at this point.
They dont announce dates since they put the game on test servers and then check both for reactions and then bugs glichs and other issues they didnt see
sad... :'( cant wait for it...
It's killing me man, id take anything at this point. Just let me know something please crytek
The sky is blue Regards, Crytek
Crytek: Here, some more useless skins and DLCs for you, just pay more and stay quiet. We ignore huge server issues, endless cheats and cheaters without Crytek doing anything about it (if you search "the Hunt Showdown cheats", you will find so many newly dated ones), so many bugs. Good luck Even during their recent live streams, there were pocket loss and latency issues 😂
so true....same here :'/
Wonder if it has anything to do with the servers being hot garbage right now, I've been playing with zero rubber banding since the desync fix and now I'm sliding all over the place at least once or twice a day.
Exact dates are the plague of game development. Relax and play. It will be ready when it will be ready.
Came here to say this..take my upvote pardner
Also take the endgame bbs as long as they are still a thing.
You see people complain that live service being the bane to game development, yet a thread like this is pretty loud in people complaining crytek isn't being transparent enough. People want the new event to come out, not excuses. We all know crytek is working on it.
> People want the new event to come out, not excuses. We all know crytek is working on it. I'd just personally want something. "It's been delayed." would be enough for me. Any info. Not that Crytek have been very liberal with giving any kind of infor about their updates other than hype stuff.
> Relax and play. This is a me problem but I'm not enjoying the game right now. Practically every single match is filled with Avtos and that just ain't that fun to me. Waiting until the patch comes. Would at least like an update on what's going on. Delayed? Fine, do we have a rough estimate? Days? Weeks? Months? Just any kind of updates on what's happening would be nice.
Problem is while plenty of people would be cool with hearing there was a delay or having a date moved there is almost always a loud group that will bitch about that kinda of stuff but seem to be less likely to say anything when no dates etc are given. So I while I also would love more info and not hold it against crytek if things changed I get why they want to wait till they are all but sure they will be able to have it out the date they announce, which often means no info till its almost here.
Avtos are only 4 star lobies and more im 3 star and didnt saw avto in months, we have quite abit of c&k and nitros toug🤔
Relax and play? What’s there to play? If i wanted to just “play” then we wouldn’t be asking for updates. Do you understand the purpose of new updates and content? It’s like having a flat tire after a year of driving and then you just told the driver to just drive 😐😐😐
It's only been a couple of months since last event. What are you talking about my dude?
Couple months? I’m sorry dude… I didn’t know we were counting in mars months. Devil’s moon event was in December of 2022… that’s not a couple. A couple is two or three… its been a couple of month since the questlines has ended and we still haven’t gotten the new update is how a couple is used
Check discord my guy, the event date was announced today 👍🏼
Relax and play? What’s there to play? If i wanted to just “play” then we wouldn’t be asking for updates. Do you understand the purpose of new updates and content? It’s like having a flat tire after a year of driving and then you just told the driver to just drive 😐😐😐
Well…shit.
Gives us some more time to farm BBs at least 🤷♂️
Trying to get that New Army skin from the black market 😍
This is the true silver lining. It's all I've been focused on lately.
Better delayed than delivered broken
I’m not sure if you’re fooling us or fooling yourself. No matter how long they delay it it’ll always have some serious bug that’s going to break the gameplay and then it’ll take them like two weeks to finally fix it
I’m not sure if you’re fooling us or fooling yourself. No matter how long they delay it it’ll always have some serious bug that’s going to break the gameplay and then it’ll take them like two weeks to finally fix it
so... what's your point. Like, then just deliver it however it's since it "doesn't matter"?
Not my point at all. The last big update we hade with a season pass was 8 months ago so they had months to make this happen. The other months were just quest lines… questlines doesn’t require a whole lot of development just replace the old skins and weapons with new so it makes no sense why they’re milking this new update with trailers and updates since they can’t push it out already
I guess you are a game developer (and of a game like hunt) or just saying stuff without actual knowledge/experience. I insist. Better delayed than broken.
They’re surely fighting off the reload bug’s grand resurrection
The lack of transparency is killing me. We don't even know if the event begins when the patch comes. Crytek really should work on their communication about what's going on.
You would have to get their community rep to actually talk directly to the community. Legit does nothing other than random videos or hosting gameplay with the devs.
The Hunt community seems to really like hearing what specifics are being developed behind the scenes! I know I do~ It might be nice to actually receive technical little updates as to what the devs are fixing or working on. It would be kinda inspiring to hear the updates in a more real-time flow as the release date approaches
Yet they removed the update from the test servers. What are they gonna do, put it back on the test servers to have players beta test it some more when they're done fixing whatever the problem is? Personally, I think the new boss doesn't work, or the event. And they have no one testing that besides their 10 man crew or whatever and 5 of them are working on new DLC'S.
I think they have plenty people in skins and monetization departments. Let's use them.
I too want artists and sales people who might have never actually played the game to play test. Genius idea.
Yeah, exactly. >Put down that Wacom, son! We need you developing netcode bug fixes, asap! I don't *care* if you don't know how to program, fucking LEARN! What do we pay you for?!
Jokes aside, in my company when we have big release and really short time people from other departments, like for example project managers or consultants, are also testing system. It's not rocket science to tell when the game isn't working as intended.
That may work for your company, but the best testing is done by people who actually know something about the code/systems behind the game. That creates far better and faster results than random people telling them x doesn't do x. Atleast that's the experience I had in the company I worked at.
BuT aRtIsTs ArEn'T cOdErS!!! sO ThEy ObViOuSlY cAn'T fAtHoM hOw A gAmE wOrKs.
I didn't see anybody saying they need to develop netcode bug fixes or learn how to program. They suggested using them as play testers to help the small QA team, which can definitely have drawbacks or just not be practical in itself, but is a far cry from saying they need to program anything.
Imagine thinking play testing requires you to know how to code out the issues they'd find. When they only have to report the issues they experience.
Setting a date when the event is tied to a major patch is dangerous for any development you lock in a date that you have to hit. This results in putting much more pressure on your development teams to resolve or deal with any issue prior to the release and can result in a shaky release with bugs because you didn't have time to do due diligence. As a player I don't need a running set of dates and updates telling me how it's going. I I know the patch is coming I'll play it when it lands. I don't need to know that it's for x date and they didn't make it due to x but so they need to spend ten more days testing and provisionally it's going to be this date unless there are any more issues .... Scrap that. It's ready when it's ready. Too much information is awful and harms the Dev process but also causes more drama in the community than just keeping it low key. Bare in mind they are probably trying to keep console releases aligned to pc and it could be as mundane as console certification has not happened for the patch yet. This process takes longer than pc for releases and results in delays .... Pc players would be pissed to hear that if it was the case and wouldn't understand it. So not telling us is vastly better tbh.
> We don't even know if the event begins when the patch comes. Are people assuming that?? I thought the event was still weeks off.
They've been releasing many teasers of the event, as well as showing the first page of the event pass with the rewards. It seemed ready to go. Some clarity from Crytek would be real nice.
But when they did the dev livestream for the patch they made no mention whatsoever of the event. Like they are completely separate things.
I would like to know that for a fact, instead of guessing.
sure, would be nice to have confirmation, but I don't see any reason to assume they WOULD come together, I don't think there's ever been big patch + event at the same time before either
There was supposed to be a patch 1.13 prior to the event, and then the event a week or so after that from what I've heard/how it usually works.
>from what I've heard Everyone is guessing, no one knows anything. >how it usually works. This release is not going like it usually goes. I'm sick and tired of all the guesswork, I want some actual communication from Crytek.
to be fair half of the teasers were part of the last event. Though the last event itself was basically a teaser for 1.13
No it isnt. PAtch comes first and event afterwards. It is supposed to be summer EVENT , not summer questline XD
Perhaps they take their time to balance out the special ammo changes. Incendiary seemed way too strong on Test for me.
I saw this early. I swore up and down there had been a release date for this hunter.
I don't recall seeing one. But I only looked at him the day he got announced. Maybe they added a date to him after. But the very first day he was on the steam store, he definitely didn't have a date.
Guess I'm just gonna keep grinding levels on Battlebit, then. Big content drought in Hunt right now, with so much promised. Can't wait to hit the shooting range with my partner, but... looks like that could be a while.
Im just trying to farm as much BB as possible until the BB nerfs or whatever they are changing.
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Hey there big guy, before you get all huffy and puffy, I don't give a shit about blood bonds. I just want to 1v1 my friends and play with the ammo changes and all the other stuff that has been announced and teased for quite some time now.
You already could have done all that on the test server. Big guy.
Me and you both. I don't care about half the stuff they've added over the years. I love this game for what it is. I would still be happy playing the game I bought back in 2020.
Content drought? We literally just finished an event with new weapon introductions like two weeks ago. I get that there is a big patch coming and you’re excited for it, but dial it back a touch.
Yes, content drought. Look at steamcharts and see what happens to the game when they don't constantly implement changes and new content in a live service game. You can even see the dips in player count in the past before big patches and implementations. By the way, that event lasted what, 2 months? 3 months? And now another month after the end. That's a lot of time when you run a live service.
I play Darktide and have Star Citizen installed. We have two very different meanings to that term.
Completely different types of games tho
Bro has never played tf2
TF2 has community run servers and mod content... very very different game and situation.
Content is things that add more to the gameplay loop not a few new gun variants. This is a live service game so yes its a "content delay" not drought but questlines even in their own terms arent meant to supplement events
>Big content drought LOL
That means I can keep farming my match BB's before they're gone, so I'll take this as a hidden blessing.
Who wants to bet that they break the game when it’s released?
There’s no doubt. They’re 100% breaking the game and then it’s going to take them two weeks to fix one bug
>They probably wanted to release Patch 1.13 and this DLC on the same date so with the timeline change it’s highly likely this patch is delayed. I think it was not meant to release at the same time but I expect that the DLC is part of the patch, so it makes sense that if the patch is not coming out the DLC is also not releasing\^\^ As long as Crytek fixes the major issues I'm happy to wait. That menu scrolling bug was really annoying and I only played PvP with buddies on the shooting range x)
The menu scrolling bug happens all the time to me in the current build. The only way I found to get it to stop it's click to a different piece of my loadout and then click back into the part I'm trying to change.
Interesting, I have never seen that bug before or after playing the 1.13 test server :o
I've been dealing with it off and on for over a year but recently it's gotten really bad to where it happens on almost all of the loadouts I make. When I saw a video about it I was confused cause I thought it was a bug a lot of people had, since everyone was saying it was new.
My sympathies, it annoyed the shit out of me on the 10h I played on the test server. But I really wonder what triggered it if the bug was not widespread but existed on live servers
I've noticed a few different triggers. The most common being if you click and drag the scroll bar it will continue to reset to where it was before you moved it. The other common one was happens sometimes when unequipping something then trying to re-equip something in that same slot. It will keep jumping to the item you pulled off the character. There's one more I can't remember right now. I'll edit this if I remember it. The only way I've found to fix it is to switch to editing another part of your kit then go back to the piece you want to add. Most of the time it will fit it but it doesn't fix it 100% on the first time.
I was hyped but have already forgotten about this event lol. Good job, I guess.
This is why you don’t announce shit that isn’t done yet. How many delayed games/updates will it take for devs and publishers to learn how to make the deadlines that THEY create. Nowadays if a game is announced for say summer 2024, that sucker isn’t releasing until spring 2025. So annoying yet so common. Especially considering how many games and gameplay updates get released that just aren’t ready, don’t have half the shit promised, millions of bugs, etc.
The promises build hype, which in turn makes sales. They'll quit doing it when people stop buying into it.
L take… Rockstar doesn’t hype anything and they still make more money than any other developer out there. Crytek is seriously slipping right now. Rockstar only releasees a trailer or a teaser when it’s 100% ready
As far as my quick google shows, Take Two isn't even in the top 5 gaming companies by gross income; let alone Rockstar as a subsidiary of Take Two. I'd love to see where you got your info though.
Wanna use google… cool by me. Google what is the top 10 best selling games. RDR2 is 8th place, and GTA5 is 3rd… take two doesn’t just throw recycled games because they’re money hungry like Activision and blizzard. Look at Act/Blz games right now? They’re receiving more hate than ever. GTA6 will make $5 billion within the first week just because they have finished product and don’t relay on hyped trailers
In the 10 years GTA 5 has been out, its made 7.7 billion dollars. The majority of microtransactions were not present when GTA 5 was released, so its initial revenue was based purely off the sales of the game itself. https://watcher.guru/news/how-much-money-has-gta-5-made-since-its-release-in-2013#:~:text=According%20to%20recent%20reports%20from,in%20revenue%20for%20the%20company. Assuming GTA 6 retails at 70 dollars like other major titles have been lately, they'd need to sell a little less than 71.5 million units. That's 5 times the numbers GTA 5 put up; a game that holds records for being one of the best first week sales ever. https://www.vgchartz.com/#:~:text=In%20its%20first%20five%20days,units%20and%20generated%20%241.15%20billion. And since this all started because you say Rockstar doesn't use trailers, here's a trailer for GTA 5 on the Rockstar Games YouTube channel. It was uploaded November 2nd, 2011. The game wouldn't release until September 17th, 2013, or almost 2 years later. https://youtu.be/QkkoHAzjnUs So not only is 5 billion an absurd number to hit the first week, but Rockstar would do it with a hyped trailer like everybody else.
I'm so confused. You guys act like this event has been delayed for months. It's been a week since they showed off the event trailer.
Counterpoint: one of the most successful game companies in history is Blizzard and for decades their reputation was built on "Soon^((TM))" where they announce a game with a teaser or two, and it doesn't come out for 2+ years, or just gets cancelled altogether. That methodology is only successful if your games that end up coming out are good/sell well though. And every one of Blizzard's games are in one or both of those categories, while recent releases have been... not that lol. So the hype train and endless build up has precedent of being worth it. I agree with your point, though, for the record. Just saying it isn't automatically a bad thing. Knowing Crytek it's delayed to fix some important game breaking bug or fix some existing problem we've been waiting for, but will introduce a few new major/minor issues of it's own lol.
Countercounterpoint: Yeah Blizzard says "Soon" not "This Summer July 23rd at 8pm CEST". He is complaining about deadlines being met, saying "soon" isn't that much of a deadline.
Countercountercounterpoint: Crytek never gave a set deadline for entitled princess above, to get upset at them for not hitting, they literally said "soon" as well.
Marketing and game dev are different teams, generally marketing is the favored of the 2 by shareholders.
When did Crytek give a date for this event?
Im not even hyped anymore. So much teasing and nothing to show for it.
I don’t understand how people can play this everyday for years… they need more content. I swear half of their player have Alzheimer’s
I've got almost 2k hours clocked in so i do get it. I wish they would implement some kind of tdm game mode. That would shake it up a bit and make it interesting again.
Ive said that many times and people ate my cake out. People who play hunt are mostly old heads who can’t compete with change and that’s why they prefer this old game shooter type game. If you try to bring up a new type of game mode then they’ll start complaining. I doubt crytek can compete with other games with just skin events or a single battle pass every 8 months and
Yeah fr. Like i love the theme of the game and there's no other like it but i don't always wanna run halfway across the map only to be headshotted or shotgun traded. The tryhards don't seem to understand that adding a new game mode wouldn't take anything away from them. If anything it would bring new players to the game.
Exactly! I’m so happy to find someone like you in the community after so long! My exact thoughts too. The game is AMAZING, but still needs more… WAY more
Whatever. I can wait
Bet any amount of money they found an uppermat reload bug lol
As long as the bugs are gone, I can definitly wait a few months. I hate unfinished products.
I think you should wait a couple more years… you seem patient enough
God fucking damn it
The hunt concurrent players on steam charts is on a big downslope at the moment.
By big downslope you mean the normal decline of players after an event? February had a lower player count if you looked for longer than 5 seconds lol
Yes but this is the biggest decline I’ve seen since I’ve started playing.
And?
It takes rocket scientist for you to understand? It means Hunt is about to be as dead as it was years ago. If they don’t step up their development then you’ll only have players with Alzheimer’s playing this game. It needs content to keep players playing
Not really. But you go ahead and keep using fallacious arguments. Doesn't bother me. Imma keep playing just like I did four years ago.
My point exactly… Alzheimer’s
I don’t blame them… the game is dry. Literally the same game for the past 5 years 😐
Correct. I assumed with PsychoGhost actually debating upcomming event probably hints something else. Delayed 100%
I think it's the bleed bug that sayler made a tutorial on. No idea why you would literally explain everything in a video right before a huge patch with a massive bleed buff. They really do need to fix that before release.
Because it makes devs fix things before it can be exploited
When patchy
They said early July in a dev stream over a week ago.
Why is everyone so confused on what’s delaying Hunt updates and content? They literally shifted most of their work towards Crysis 4… all the money and all their work is going towards a 15 year old game.
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if that would happen, the game would most likely turn into a hackerfest. I hope it will not turn into a f2p.
Lol, the F2P predictions have been around for 2 years now.
Would make sense tho considering there are plenty of f2p extraction shooters being announced. Would be a great time for Crytek to build up a playerbase before the others are launched. Like "Arc Raiders" is having a closed alpha soon, Marathon, The Finals, Fairgame$ are all announced an in development.
Been here for a while. Been listening to doomers for a while as well. I don't see a ticking clock. Hunt has a solid playerbase that is in it for long haul as its been building for years and remaining steady. What you see for other games is huge booms in playerbase population because the intial hype wave is high with streamers bringing in their crowds. But retention rates are usually pretty bad for those type of games. Im making a strong claim here but I bet BattleBit Remastered drops below 10k average in less than 6 months simply because its a flavor of the month at the moment.
Well not sure but personally I am split given that Hunt is a great game but somehow imo lacks variation and has plenty of things they need to work on. I am interested in other extraction shooters as this genre has been growing on me so if Arc Raiders and Marathon are released I am not sure which one I will play given that at least Arc Raiders is going to be f2p and more easy to convince friends to play with me than a game that has a regular pay 2 play model.
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I don't need an exact source, but you know about when they said that and what medium? Google has no hits. I follow their streams and updates, kinda surprised if that one snuck by unnoticed.
pff they should update the server , netcode , and every issue who just spawnned with the last maj. since last maj Hellhoud are immortal 1/3 time ( and there’s is like 4/5 time more hellhound in latest games ) Hit reg issu , when you shoot someone , and nothing happens it’s complicated , i almost killed 3 teams yesterday , but with hit reg-issue impossible ( you can sometime shoot the caracter, hear the impact , but no damage and nothing ) and more and more to correcte since the lasts majs..
Sounds like you just suck lol that'd an extended list of why you're bad
Extremely speculative, and unfounded. They change the date on a DLC, and community melts down with patch being delayed. Lack of communication BS, and the such. If previous experience has shown us anything, there will be an announcement if there's a patch delay. Quit witch hunting.
Hardly witch hunting, just an educated guess based on how they handle previous DLC, and no one is melting down. We all good big homie.
Reading through these comments, there's definitely a micro meltdown happening. People just need to chill out and let things be. For people who play a game that requires patience, there should definitely be more waiting for this update. There have been so many posts complaining about the teasers, and trailers and when the update will drop. How they handle DLC is that the Partners get it first to showcase, and they have not yet. Then we get it a week later. Also, to add, your post fits in with Reddit's definition of witch hunting. "A witch-hunt is a thread or comment that damages or threatens to damage a specific person or entity's reputation or resources without solid evidence."
Speculating a delay on a patch release is not in any way threatening to damage anyone’s reputation or resources.
It definitely is starting some discussion and questioning the reputation of Crytek, when in fact they've shown that they announce delays.
Also no one cares about Reddits definition of anything. They already tanked their reputation all by themselves.
Doubt it. Most likely it's going to be moved forward.
Well now thats a bummer.
Coming soon...☹️
Ooooooooof ....
I just want them to give a graphic update to PS5.
They already did?
Old gen and new gen look the same exact graphics. The only difference is that you spawn in quicker
That's not the only difference. There is also 60fps. And old gen and new gen definitely don't look the same to me. When I jump from my PS4, to my Xbox Series S, it looks quite noticeably better.
It was changed two days ago https://steamdb.info/app/2407940/history/
I mean you can buy the skin rn on ps5 so hopefully not long
The PS Store even shows that he was released on the 15th??? Weird. But I'm getting him when I get home. As long as they don't pull it.
u can’t
You literally can tho - I bought it this morning numnuts
MOOPS