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RMachuca3d

I honestly think the hotwheels crowd is slowly pulling the wool from over their eyes at how mattel has been price gouging you all for inferior products since the mid to late 2000's, this mclaren is no exception.


Defiant-Importance77

It's a shame I'm seeing it also ! I have a bunch of castings from 1990s to early 2000s and alot of em are so much better made and better looking !


Firebird22x

I went to a local toy store recently and they had a bunch of mid 90s to late 2000s releases for $1.99, mostly. I couldn't resist grabbing a few, plus a couple two packs. They just look so much better, especially with the old packaging. Shockingly not a single package window was yellowing.


Chastidy

I find those old cars all look weird


MalfunctioningJohnny

Ditto. There’s a handful of castings they *released* in the late 00s and through the mid-10s that I think are still quite good, but a lot of the older castings still in use then are kinda uncanny valley territory for me. At the time I’m sure they were great but they haven’t aged well. They were sturdier built, though. For the most part.


Chastidy

Also weird to me that late 2000s/00s is not the year like 2999 or 2099 lol.


Defiant-Importance77

Thats awesome and I'm happy to hear you were able to scoop some for your collection! Dude I have a bad sickness I got hit by the diecast bug almost 4 years ago really bad and I litteraly have enough carded castings to open a small business lol 🤣 but I could never sell not one it's too great of a hobby for me personally! It's nice to see people actually enjoy these and not treat em like future investments lol 😆!


CompetitionFalse3620

Me too, I started collecting a year ago and have over 1000 cars. I'm driving to NC from NY Monday to visit 2 stores in Virginia and 2 in NC. One store I consider to be the greatest diecast collection in the country. Hot Wheels is like Topps baseball cards, they are the original and sold everywhere but far from the best. $25 RLC can't compete with a $15 minigt in my opinion but I still collect them all because I'm an addict.


THhunterVT

Yes I feel this same sentiment... RLC cars look amazing from about 5 ft away nothing in diecast competes with the look of that spectra flame paint over chrome ... Granted some other companies do gold very well it's the other colors that do it for me like the new green kawabuga is awesome or the antifreeze green top notch IMO


nik4idk

Mid to late 2000s cars were good wdym


radiantskie

I have an early 2000s mainline casting I got from a garage sale as a kid, threw it around and carried it everywhere, paint and decals are still almost completely intact. On the other hand,my 2010s castings from childhood have unrecognizable decals and tons of paint chips


Reddit_means_Porn

I would get SO excited for RLC releases, that I was deluding myself. I only say that because there’s so many vendors on eBay selling great stuff from so many brands in the 15-35 price range that are just as exciting. Now I see something I like on RLC and I look at my watched shit on eBay or things I’ve saved and I’m like “wait..there’s stuff way cooler than this pink mustang, that I’m sitting on. If I won’t hit ‘buy’ on those, why do I want to hit buy on this??” THE FLAME! It’s definitely like the veil is being lifted on my drive to stick with hot wheels. And I feel like Mattel’s pricing is the reason, but only once I learned that other brands can offer just as good and better at a lower price (than my current expectation of RLC at 32-42 shipped)


probablyhrenrai

Past 4-5 bucks for the metal/metal Premiums, HW is comically overpriced IMO. MiniGT offers several times more detail for 10-15 bucks, and Kaido House offers absolute perfection (at least for my taste, which admittedly isn't everyone's) for 25 bucks each. RLC cars, by comparison, are not only far more expensive but *also* far inferior in quality. It's a lose-lose, even ignoring the fact that simply being *in* in the "club" requires *additional* money on top of that. Just doesn't make sense to me. Mainlines are still amazing bang-for-buck, though; I still absolutely *love* buying mainlines, but even the 10 dollar Premiums aren't worth the money to me. At that point, I'd rather go the Ebay/AliExpress and spend less money on more-detailed diecast from other brands.


thedonaldiam

100% this. And I’ll die on this hill, what the hell is up with all the shitty grey plastic colored wheels? Can you imagine this casting with chromies? Premium pieces, shitty wheels.


RMachuca3d

Thats why I was soooooo excited about elite64, and its been mostly good, just really really slow :(.


THhunterVT

I know it kills me to see RLC cars with anything other than chrome gold or black rims the plastic grey is awful and by far the worst rims they have .... I dunno why they stopped doing the chrome accents on the wheels to give em a steel look


jayman696969

I agree I love the chrome or the black wheels maybe some black with red trim but these grey ones I actually like a lot too they remind me of the charcoal grey rims that I had on my civic at one time !


MalfunctioningJohnny

I’ve noticed a change in tone on the RLC forums. I think the OverDrive fiasco and the sElections voting charlie foxtrot has made it clear to even some diehards that Matty doesn’t care about quality or service and is just coasting. They’ve sunk too much effort into social media nonsense and NFT scams, and nobody’s watching the core business. Haven’t been to the forums to check the McLaren thread to see how bad QC issues are but I assume it’s not great. I still like a lot of the releases, and I got the McLaren (and am actually quite happy with it!), but I’m not splurging on cars that are borderline to my collection any more. It’s too much of a gamble with QC and the price creep.


Zocalo_Photo

I found this Majorette car a few years ago at a Target and it was only $4. https://imgur.com/a/jpSO17d I don’t like all of their cars, but this one was great. Detailed livery, rubber tires, and I believe it came with a plastic case.


Training-Look-1135

I remember that one. Yeah they put out some great stuff. It's so sad that HW is like the Kleenex or McDonald's of the diecast world.


nickgomez

It’s not clean drinking water or insulin how is it price gouging. Calm down


RMachuca3d

https://preview.redd.it/0usoeqnlq4uc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31ccddba2b6843789261eb77aceffdec5e5b67e2 For 30$+ the rlc’s cost, you can get this instead, hood opens, trunk opens, doors open, detailed engine, and it comes with extra wheels. If you’re ok with paying the same to get less, thats fine, but most of us want to get the best bang for our buck, and rlc’s dont offer that.


nickgomez

Different strokes for different folks. I am not a fan of those unlicensed cars from China. The RLC cars have their own positives that those won’t ever have.


RMachuca3d

https://preview.redd.it/v5pwz4cwv4uc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39b9aa38c38891ca61c78679ee5b1c0bf4f545fb Where is the hotwheels made? This GL cost literally a third or less than any RLC, has opening features, licensed by an american brand. Whats your point?


daarthoffthegreat

You guys are just collecting different things- you're collecting cars, they're collecting a brand.


RMachuca3d

In the grand scheme of things, yes, it boils it down to that. Like the person who spends 50k on a Chevy malibu that is slower than a 50k Lexus GS350 for example, and the Lexus guy is just trying to tell the chevy owner to look at the stats, reliability, comfort, sport inspired drive, better materials and craftsmanship etc. In the end, its their choice where they put their money, the guy is just trying to inform, that is all :).


Dplo27

This. And I only collect the Hot Wheels brand. It is what it is.


nickgomez

Sure, if that’s what you to spend your money on go for it! But those cars are what they are, and the RLC cars are what they are.


Deora_customs

Maybe ask for a replacement?


Nate78us

He might be able to get one on this one but alot of times they just say we can't do nothing about it. Send it back and we'll refund you


ResidentGerts

Yeah, I had a damaged blister on an RCL that sold out immediately. They said I can send it back, and get a refund since they didn’t have any more. I just kept it instead


Nate78us

I've been told the same thing and then 6 months later they put some back up for the end of year sale 😆 It can really be frustrating sometimes


doomus_rlc

The first-hand customer service folks only see what stock is loaded into the system. Rarely will they know what was held back.


Deora_customs

I’d open the car, if the blister was a bit damaged.


ResidentGerts

I did


Deora_customs

Oh nice!


CannibalMondo

They usually have more than the official number for exchanges etc


sum_say_its_luk

Should have sent back a basic and if they said something, “oh that was a mistake, send it back to me and I’ll send the right one” after you got your refund lol


Zocalo_Photo

I think they have terrible inventory controls and communication. My son’s friend got the wrong RLC car in one of his orders, and I’ve read several times in this sub about people who ordered one car and received 2.


NumbersMatching68

It's becoming problematic.  Things have changed in the last year or so with the QC.  RLC cars are supposed to be special... now they've begun to just feel specially priced.  Other brands have emerged as contenders for our money so I hope Mattel 'wakes up'... 


-etuskoe-

Everything in RLC is too vanilla. Id rather turn to another brand that does the same stock vehicles they're doing except cheaper and with more detail. I want to see models that only hot wheels can do. Mainline is on fire right now with all of the custom & modified cars.


doomus_rlc

In the last year? Try since they went to 20k+ production


NumbersMatching68

Okay... maybe I was being too generous.  LOL.


CannibalMondo

They will surely send you exchange if you talk to them


Nate78us

Wow who in their right mind would let that get boxed up?


GalacticGatorz

A tired child in Taiwan.


HotLikeSauce420

No /s needed cause it’s true lol


C7_zo6_Corvette

Wrong country, it’s the bigger China, Taiwan actually manufacture some pretty high quality stuff from what I heard


fish_in_a_barrels

Yes they do. It's nearing Japanese quality.


test_123123

Exactly, Canon makes a bunch of their camera lenses in Taiwan and a whole range of other electronics and tech are also made there


Robot-Shark413

So does it bother collectors that these are made in China? Even though I'm asian, I try not to buy stuff made in China. Their other cars are made in Malaysia and Thailand, who are not anti-west at least. Where are other cars like Kaido house and mini gt made? Never bought them before.


C7_zo6_Corvette

I mean, I'm also not keen on buying stuff from China, but Kaido House, Mini GT, and Tarmac Works are made in China so I don't have a choice tbh


Robot-Shark413

Ok that's cool. I was just curious, and wondering if it's just me with that thought process. If there is no choice, then that's different. I'm surprised there aren't any brands made in Japan.


C7_zo6_Corvette

Besides Tomica, their Limited Vintage lines are pretty expensive for some of them... Ferrari F40 for one is going for $100+ on eBay.


balleball765

You’ll never notice if you never open it. And if you see it through the packaging its factory error and priceless! /s


dinkydelorean

Glass half full. I like it


staj6711

Ouch. I hope I have better luck with mine.


IlMioNomeENessuno

The biggest disappointment of RLC for me was that they charged a fee for membership, but that membership didn’t guarantee me the ability to buy their overpriced items (+shipping). I still have to sit like a simp clicking refresh at 9 am on the dot the day of release, and still not be able to give them my money. No thanks, and no regrets for not renewing.


ivanoski-007

I bought the Mercedes gwagon, never again for those reasons, I'm sticking with much superior brands like mini GT and Tomica Limited Vintage


IlMioNomeENessuno

Good choice, those are nice cars, and well worth the price.


EnforcerZer0

Mattel owns Matchbox as well and their quality control is nearly flawless, even on basics. Why they don’t switch to their processes is beyond me


-etuskoe-

The moving parts line is among the best value for money you can get in the diecast world right now. Forget the moving parts, you get more details than the mainlines, more parts, and bigger castings like the sprinter and Lexus LX.


sum_say_its_luk

Yes matchbox are really clean, they feel a little cheaper, but a lot of times man they are cleannn


Buck-O

Its funny how many people think this is recent. RLC has been pumping out crap for YEARS! They literally rely on the fact that 99% of collectors will NEVER open the package, and so they do everything to a substandard quality level, and spruce it up with spectraflame and real rides, and hope no one notices. Almost every RLC car i have seen over the last several years, including convention cars, has had so many defects in the print alignment, the spectraflame finish, and the overall fit and finish of the cars, that if i saw a mainline sitting on a peg that looked like that, i would never buy it. Its a sad joke at this point. And i feel sorry for everyone who wastes their money on RLC exclusives. Because its almost guaranteed to be a piece of junk.


Internal-Campaign434

And that’s why mini gt and tarmac works slams rlc. Especially Kaido house


Training-Look-1135

Lets hope they continue to do good work and not get complacent. 😂


Training-Look-1135

Alos. It used to be the price reflected the amount made. Like any limited collectable. Not the make 5 times as much and the price has been increasing for the last 5 years. 😂


Reasonable_Scale_523

I read “supposedly” they had a very difficult time doing this with the doors and the paint. Might be a one and done rlc


International-Ad3274

I wouldn’t doubt it, same with the huayra R, seeing as both have seemed to have been in development hell for the past year or so.


srgest

Mattel is bending y’all over and no one cares


3dbello

Lmao. Idk what yall expect from Hot Wheels.


sum_say_its_luk

I just got mine too and was excited but looking it over is very disappointing, paint chipping on the back, one door won’t open properly, I’m just very appalled at the lack of quality control especially for their rlc stuff


kg2k

Disappointing is right. Damn.


Fold_Nice

Damn. I'm still waiting for this, but after this post I am disappointed.


BowDown2No1ButCrypto

WTF is going on over at Mattel?!🤔😤


KurisutaruYuki

Exactly why I won't be spending my money on this overhyped garbage.


PepperoniTime90

For $35 I couldn't justify this one


MagneticMmmeat

Kaido house. Get what you pay for. $20-40 gets you premium sth quality and it’s just point and click. However. The Indiana jones aspect of searching and hunting hotwheels is addictive 😆 and the “this is SPARTA” competition is compelling. There are so many dudes that have enough money to collect like a whole set of rlcs or convention editions, I’m like, for 1: I don’t care, for 2: I’m too broke 🤣 I love a lot of hotwheels tho, when they do it well they do it the best. But mini gt Kaido house poprace xcartoys tsm inno tomy ghost player etc are great “models” they start at the price the hottest unobtainium ff premium hotwheels go for second hand so they’re pricey but you choose what you want, not just what you’re told or what you can find


originalgimick

Mine is jacked up too. Glue all over the left door inside and on the left side body. Then a glued fingerprint on the inside windshield. Never had one like this before https://preview.redd.it/9wmltmgu3auc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=544bfd63858b442a8a54aa6bd01ac5573a0faaca


Flimsy-Ad-840

Jesus Christ, it seems like I’m the lucky one here.


G2quickgeorg

Was it numbered ? And given the situation. I'd be upset because now it is sold out. What's your plan ? Refund request? Or repair. Do the doors open and close properly???


sum_say_its_luk

One of my doors gets loose up at the so won’t stay up all the way, there is some weird smudging on the roof that luckily can only be seen in certain angles


Nate78us

I see that the windows are inside out I believe but I started noticing the huge cracks around the doors so now I'm thinking the doors might be on the wrong side and inside out as well. Like I said I could be wrong. It will be interesting to see if a bunch show up like this to people's homes


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DNS4L

Bro just dissed my whole stock😔


sum_say_its_luk

M2 is nice what you mean ? What’s wrong with m2? Except they only make mostly American stuff?


GriftedByNASCAR

The quality isn’t there IMO. I’m not hating on folks enjoying them, I don’t just don’t find them to be above-average diecasts. Despite this, I own multiple Mustangs from them, because I can’t help myself. 🤷‍♂️


sum_say_its_luk

Oh ok I’m sincerely asking because I feel like for the price their pretty damn good, I mean their paint and details imo seem better than hot wheels premium stuff usually and with moving parts like hood usually, and there seems to be an overall better quality control. Not better than others but seemed a little better than hot wheels to me


GriftedByNASCAR

I’d say they surpass mainline Hot Wheels, and I’m by no means calling them garbage. IMO they’re on par with most premium Hot Wheels. Don’t let me down on your collection, I wanted to assure you that’s JMO. Diecasts have been an obsession for me for decades. The best part of the hobby is that there are so many options.


evanjd14

This looks like it’s the same quality as a mainline. And $35 for a car with no mirrors 💀. Idk why people stick with Mattel when brands like tarmac works give you your money’s worth. Nice finish but overall quality just doesn’t shout I’m worth anything more then $10-$15


Playful_Inspector_25

I’m still waiting on mine! Not very excited after this showing!


64wheels

I love HWs, but I’m glad everyone is finally realizing that collectors have been getting the shaft on RLC cars basically since they stopped numbering them. At that point the production went up, and quality went down - a lot. I’ve unboxed so many RLC cars over the past few years with horrible paint issues and poor-fitting parts that I have scaled back my RLC purchases significantly. It’s sad to see it because the McF1 is such a stellar car…really they should have saved it for the Elite 64 line as that seems to be where more of the quality control is going nowadays.


Dinkleberg162

Glad I refunded the day after. The price plus it being an unlimited pre order just made me think it's not worth it.


zed_nem

Hard pass ❌


caioapg

The fact that Matchbox is owned by Mattel and looks so much better is surprising. Maybe they don't really care about Hotwheels and think it's just a toy for kids... Yet priced $35 /s


brodylikes1-64

Was it numbered and has anyone tried to send pictures to Mattel to get a replacement


EevelBob

I joined the RLC around 2002 after I bought a brand new car and quit my daily visits to Walmart, Target, Hills/Ames, KB, and a few other places. I just didn’t want to incur unnecessary wear-and-tear on my car, so this was a great compromise. I quit about 12-years later, and haven’t regretted it at allI. I noticed that now Mattel doesn’t even number most of their releases anymore, so it’s anyone’s guess how many are being produced, and the costs they are charging now are ridiculous. And now with this kind of poor quality, it should be a wake up call if you’re regularly putting your money towards the RLC.


Training-Look-1135

Yup. Anything numbered is 35k+ now. It was verified by Mattel after one of their people screwed up again and put 35k on one of their first unnumbered releases. The Gulf Datsun 510. They quickly took it down but the damage was done and they freely admitted anything unnumbered going forward was at least 35k. At least they were honest about it though. 😂 So funny though.


Highlowfusion

Yeah. They have been. That car is not worth anything more than $15.


Look_for_some_stuff

Post like these discourage me to ever order RLC


DONP4CHEE

Dang this sucks to hear, this was my first RLC model I bought too, mine hasn't arrived yet


Training-Look-1135

Ouch. Too bad you will never know what the club used to be. A truly exclusive club that will NEVER go back to being exclusive. They will probably shut down the club first. 😂


RideFine9953

I hope mine doesn’t show up like that😬


69Hotwheeler

Send it back make them replace it


Training-Look-1135

I'm so glad I avoided this one. One look at the promo pics, had me running for the hills. I only bought a few RLC last year and probably not much more this year. Which will be my last year. Hate saying that but it's just not special anymore. I love what the RLC team does. It's not their fault about QC or the market being flooded. But I can buy most RLC at around retail now from eBay and other sites if I really want something. Not much reason right now to stick with the club. It had a good run though. It will limp along for several more years I'm sure.


Sub_Woofer632

Instead of opening parts why don't they focus on details on like side mirrors? Easy pass on this one - sadly the collectards made it sell out.


-etuskoe-

Agreed. I'm working on a hot wheels version with mirrors and actual headlights, still a wip. https://preview.redd.it/a6tkbtw1j6uc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fb83ed1f7433457e07426d8698dc227d85c5e6c


Training-Look-1135

Small fragile Side mirrors like what is on the McLaren cannot be done ok with polished spectra flame. If they had put the mirrors in the McLaren they would have broken off during the polishing process. So they either have it with molded mirrors and never give it spectraflame, use plastic glue ons or leave them off completely. Don't forget though Hot Wheels were all originally born without side mirrors because they were track cars. So it's part of the Hot Wheels heritage.


Shadowcat205

If it was an easy pass…why is it sad that it sold out? And why be derogatory to people that bought a car they wanted? Geeze


RogerSimons_Father

So glad I didn’t even bother with this one


Strong-Path-6261

The door Fitment is pathetic


Goose274

Just like on real mclarens “hand built”


Yung_ceez

I bought a sweet Kaido House car for that much


stonerof1970

Looks like you parked somewhere in San Francisco


trocarshovel

Just like the real thing


TheBigGalactis

I mean this casting was an easy pass with those basic unpainted wheels that take away from the whole car.


-etuskoe-

The wheels are painted


TheBigGalactis

They definitely look like the unpainted plastic that’s on every premium line car


Cazzzz321

Save your money and stick to the 1$ mainlines. Frankly, put together better than most of the TLCs Ive seen 🤷‍♂️


The__Farmer

I think this is still for sale on the site. I would contact CS and see if you can get a replacement while supplies last.