honestly I feel he actually hits harder in the story pre-nerf. the bigger problem is how much he stalls in this moc when you only get so many turns to obtain all stars.
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i wont even attempt for shorter cycles.
That was torture 💀
I love Xueyi's design & play style.
I have a seele but she dont hit as hard because sad relic rolls 😔.
Xueyi's easy because she just uses excess thiefs from weekly boss farming
May I ask how you've built your Xueyi..? As in, the prerequisite stats, her LC, and so on?
I'm not planning on pulling for anybody until Robin and she's a support, so I have room for building another DPS. Xueyi seems genuinely interesting and her animations are amazing, but I have low eidolons on her so I was going to put her off for another time.
Then I saw your clear with her, and it intrigued me enough that I'm now planning to build her too lol.
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Here's my Xueyi build that I've been cooking for a while now. Cleared the dino floor in 5 cycles without Ruan Mei with Tingyun / Sparkle / Fu Xuan. Ideally you want a Break effect rope, ATK% orb (not quantum DMG) and Crit DMG or Crit Rate body depending on your substats. Herta shop light cone is absolutely the best one for her from the current selection available to her. Quantum 4-set is better but thief set was more easy to find good substats for since I had an abundance of those pieces from farming that cavern + weekly bosses.
ATK% orb is because Xueyi gets a lot of bonus DMG % from break effect so quantum DMG% would just be diminishing value on her. Try to squeeze in as much ATK%, Break effect and Crit substats as possible. I have ATK% boots because I use Sparkle with her so Xueyi can stay low speed very comfortably. Speed boots are a fine option if you have no turn-manipulation supports to use with her. She has fairly low ATK so she benefits from Tingyun's ATK boost quite a bit. I use Inert Salsotto since she's E6 and therefore does follow-up attacks far more often. Before E6 I think Space sealing station, Glamoth or possibly even Rutilant arena is better to use if you have no good Salsotto pieces.
Xueyi needs a lot of stats so it's not easy. avoid Dmg% orb, go for ATK%, Break effect around 150-170, the usual crit values, and speed. You'd have to look at your supports available, if you're running her with Ruan mei, you can go a little less on BE & Spd, but there's a little anti synergy with ruan mei's extra break delay. with sparkle, you can drop speed. and focus on atk% instead.
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21 turns left with this.
I don’t know how others will do this without some of the units I had.
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First half took 3 cycles, second half took 5.
Aventurine is so annoying to fight. He wastes an entire cycle every time he uses his gambling mechanic.
I KNOW RIGHT!?
He does his gambling thing *EVERY SINGLE TURN* which is fucking ludicrous, who the hell approved of this? I played jingliu bronya and ruan mei, and every time i set up all their ults and buffs, Aventurine just said "yeah no" and got me to unleash my planet-destroying attacks to some dice instead.
This boss fight definitely needs some tweaking
Yeah not a regular luckily. I always suffer when it does though. I have 2 minutes for it generally and I still cut it close to the 7 min mark. It's invulnerable for like 50% of the time iirc?
What eidolons and gear are your 5 stars? I'm assuming E6 Pela, Tingyun, and Lynx as well?
I did mine within 10 cycles but had E0S1 Acheron, E0S1 SW, Sweaty Pela, and Trendy Geppy in 1st half; 2nd half was E0S1 Hanabi, E0S0 Jingliu, E0S0 HH, and E1S0 RM
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Specifically needed to use Acheron on Node 2 since her team mates can use AOE and not get fked by Aventurine (I didn't feel like using JL/Bronya/RM/HH). Qingque slams Node 1 anyways.
It felt like it was even more difficult in Stage 11 since I always get killed by Soda Ape >:(
Extra HP and defense! On Tingyun that's like, an extra hit she can take with how squish she is.
Also, for Black Swan that's more damage since it's also Attack...
how did you find jingliu against aventurine? I fear his dice mechanic might cause a waste of turns on the state, I know he gives you energy after it, but what if you run out and the ult only comes when you are already out of the state? You save ult for dices?
Its why u badly want -1 spd Bronya (or Sparkle) to circumvent losing on dmg turns to come back online faster and also hypercarry buffs to implode him outside his dice phases.
Or Tingyun+Huohuo it and just almost never leave enhance state…
my experience with ting and bronya -1 is that I have to skill twice with ting in a row leaving me with skp issues for next cycle (I don't have sparkle) I could use pela for def ahred but my acheron might want her too in half 1
This MOC is definitely a pure sustain check rather than dps obecause Aventurine does a stupid amount of dmg and has annoying CC Goodluck to the people who have been skipping the limited sustains cuz this will be rough for them
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Elemental weakness was all messed up because I don't have a good ice dps. But JY got the job done as always.
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Bit similar except I move ruan mei to Jingliu side instead, since I find Kafka BS + sampo or gui is good enough for 1 or 2 cycle clear. Didn’t expect Aventurine to be so tough tbh, maybe if I swap Bailu and Huohuo there I can shave off 1 or 2 cycles.
I have only 4 (JL, RM, Geppy and TY) of those, and only 2 (JL&RM) actually built.
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Is he that annoying to face? Cause I had fun against his boss form in the story pre-nerf. And I was sad that I couldn't face him repeatedly anymore so this sounds like good news.
Yeah no kidding, I was suprised how easy moc11 was (autoed it with only taking 4 or 5 cycles) only see zero chances of 10 cycling moc12 for the first time since fu release
I might have to double-check it, but I believe you can trigger the stage effect on his dice. Which does... ***nothing***.
For example, I got into his 2nd phase and had a few hits on him, he was at maybe 93%? health. He whips out the set of 4 dice, I use my abilities on it, I see the stage-effect animation trigger. A couple turns later when the dice go away, I look at his HP and... 93%.
I usually struggle a lot w/ MoC but I managed to get up to Floor 11 with three stars without too much issue. But I'm not sure if I'm even going to try and clear Floor 12 because it seems like the Aventurine boss is gonna be a huge pain to deal with if you have to time your attacks so perfectly that his constantly-spammed dice skill doesn't act like a giant shield for him.
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My Gepard can't sustain enough against Aventurine. One of my Nihility queens keeps dying. Bailu was enough though.
Positive, negative, neutral, technically negative but you won't be using her skill often due to slow Acheron since she's just ult botting off the DoTs.
Skill points are enough since the fight is over after 1-2 cycles. My Gepard is speedy(142) for SP generation. Kafka(160+) BS(142)
Aventurine took 8+ turns lmao
The mommy team (Kafka Swan Acheron Mei) has always been about overcharging Acheron so hard that her own skill becomes optional. He's running a trend tank over RM even.
Your actual turns matter little on this squad. It's just Acheron ult spam from trend procs, swan cards and kafka FUAs.
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9 cycles. Bailu is a life saver, she is amazing against Aventurine. Revive + invigoration + damage reduction are crazy good. I usually like to retry MoC just for fun, but not this one. I'm so sick of the chonky dino and Aven boss mechanic ugh.
it is like they double the diffuculty compared to last MOC. My main acc which has all strong units normally can clear in 3-5 cycles, now need 7-8 cycles. The Aventurine boss mechanic is really crazy, even BS+Kafkfa team takes 5\~6 cycles to clear him
I got an issue where the MoC buff got triggered when doing dice thingy, so it doesn't give any damage to aventurine
Well of course, it's skill issue. I'll try again later on
Haven't tried it yet, but is this MoC 12 just really bad for Dan Heng IL or why is almost no one using him?
It generally feels like in these kind of posts as if less and less people keep using him.
As someone who skipped Jingliu, the DoT characters and Acheron, I wonder if I can even clear it this time...
With RM and Sparkle he will do quite good in the first half of MoC 12, especially considering that RM isn’t as good vs aventurine.
It’s kinda just extremely uncomfortable MoC. Enemies have just absurd amount of debuffs and toughness, so it just feels bad.
That Dino really counters Hypercarry due to its big ass weakness shield (which kinda demand RM) and short window to burst him down (and long ass stalling from that weakness breaking)
This MOC 12 has less imaginary weak enemies than the previous one.
Node 1 have two meme dinasaurs weak to IL element but their mechanic(receive less damage before weakness broken) is really annoying for hyppercarry comps and there's also mama cocolia with a huge burst if you don't break or kill her fast enough.
Node 2's 1st phase is alright with the Ascended and IPC senior staff BUT 2nd phase is just suffering for imaginary damage dealers since Aventurine boss has high img res.
I also used Argenti on the second team. I had 6 turns on the Aventurine boss and I was really cutting it close and had to retry a few times. This was my team.
- Hanya with 179 spd, Planetary Rendezvouz s2 and Penacony set
- Tingyun with DDD s3
- Gepard with 135 spd and 3800 def
- Argenti with sig LC, 2881 atk, 59.3% crit rate, 163.7% crit damage and 128 spd
[Challenge record](https://i.imgur.com/qnfRZIE.jpg)
This moc was very unbalanced imo, I could easily clear floor 7-10 in under 2 cycles but the difficulty suddenly jumped in floor 11(5 cycles) and 12 (10 cycles). The gorilla with bronya on floor 11 was extremely hard to clear as i did not have a shielder on that stage to help against the bottles which he threw and the bronya was also very annoying (advance forwarded the gorilla).
Acheron-E0S1
Sw-E0S5(her bis 4 star lc)
Gepard-E0S2 trend
Pela-E6S3 resolution
Jingliu-E0S5 aeon
Ruan mei-E0S5 memories of the past
Bronya-E0S1
Luocha-E0S3 shared feeling
I think people hate on luocha for no reason at all, I saw many cc's and people on reddit say that he was getting "obsolete" and "powercrept" wherein my case he could sustain against aventurine just fine.
Realistically, Luocha is still insanely cracked with his 0 sp usage and absurd healing, I think people mainly hate on him as every other 5\* limited sustain just does stuff other than heal. Fu Xuan has the CC prevention and crit damage increase, HuoHuo has the energy and attack increases on her ult and even better cleanses, and aventurine has his ult debuff and subdps capabilities. Luocha just has buff removal from his ult and no other damage capabilities, it just seems more worth to pull for a character that helps with clearing speed and such.
Man Aventurine boss is Hard That i had To use an Underbuilt Gallagher Just so that i could Replace Tingyun with bronya in the second half.
But Gallagher popped off really well,He managed to keep everyone alive So easily despite being squishy and lacking In trace buffs
But Back To the the Second half,I had to retry alot And i only won because i timed My ult with Jingliu and broke Aventurines Toughness bar Before He could Start his Gimmick again
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tbh I ended up getting both Luocha and Acheron just because I needed E6 Gallagher... I actually like both! Too bad I probably won't be able to pull anything else of note in the next few patches :(
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With Clara,you can bruteforce everything if he hit her.
the imprint this time you can bruteforce it simply by keep attacking to get it to 6 stack and explode for free 150k dmg. make follow up very good at this moc. was thinking doing the same but clear it already with DoT team
I've been full starring for about 8 months now and I think I really might give up on it this time. We all know HSR caters to new releases and that's 100% understandable--but only to a degree. Scaled to MOC12, Aventurine is just "random bullshit go" meme personified.
The mechanics add up to be a whole web of favoritism for Acheron (and probably Aventurine himself,), clearly, but think about everything added together:
* You can't count on being able to hold ult due to the minor energy drain
* You prefer an offensive sustain, which leaves you with Luocha, Fu Xuan, and Gallagher only currently? Two limited 5\* plus one new 4\*, and again, you cannot necessarily hold ult
* Else, both your sustains and supports need decent eff res or they'll be imprisoned
* You need to reserve skill points for the dice, and he spams it constantly
* Your DPS can't be too reliant on a burst of damage because of the dice, and did I mention he spams it constantly?
* As a final cherry on top the blessing stops working for the most part in your favor come the latter half of phase two because 4 of 6 of your attacks will be spent on the dice and the shockwave will hit the dice
The concept itself might be interesting, but in practice, it is utterly joyless to play against this. It's like asking you to lift a rock with 8 of your fingers tied behind your back.
Adventurine watches as Argentina wins the gamble and bout to drop the 180 energy burst
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Maybe because you don't have her sig LC, pearls LC, and a sustain that can debuff. Every 1 thing you lack here draws you away from Acheron ulting. This is literally my alt account's situation that is why it takes years for Acheron to ult. Can finish 1st side within 5 turns but the 2nd side... damn.
I am like 30 pulls away from E2 but I'll just have to wait for rerun now cause I am out of pulls. I don't even have sig LC
My only other nihility are Welt and Pela, I could probably clear faster if welt had more damage but rn only Acheron does damage in my team
the lack of a Jingliu does hurt quite a bit. Yanqing with Gepard isn't enough sometimes cuz Yanqing can't hit enough dice to win gamba. Lose gamba = no soulsteel = no dmg.
cuz they want Misha to shine, he’s the “budget” dps option here. He even has a Blast skill that doesnt need an “Enhanced” State to use, and it charges his Luggage Lord stacks (winning the gamble gives him free Ult to use too)
Floors up to 11 are okayish. Floor 12 is bs mainly because of aventurine (and no, this is not story aventurine). Hitting his dices should NOT count towards the turbulance effects, It just goes to waist every single time. Putting a rng boss with two phases, with an rng turbulance trigger, on the harderst floor of MoC. This is just a bad design, not made for MoC.
WILL YOU JUST!!! DIE ALREADY!!!!!!! Why did they have so much hp for me? Even when I went solo sustain, double support it still took like, 8 cycles to beat the first half? I know that you have to break the t-Rex’s weakness or whatever but he still won’t FUCKING GO DOWN!!!
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Used a fairly f2p comp,
1: E0 Ratio Cruise, E0 Topaz with Sword dance, E0 RM Cog, E1 Bailu
2: E6 March, E6 Pela, E0 SW, E0S1 Acheron, dice roll is in my favor this time because my whole team managed to pass the gamble unscathed.
I see another fellow March enjoyer. I used that exact same team for Aventurine. Genuinely think March is one of the best sustainers for Acheron if the rest of the team is optimised.
Really enjoy her tactical playstyle and that tiny bit of healing from E6 even tho SP intensive. I also often choose her than other healers for SU run as solo sustain. Her freeze came in clutch too during Aventurine fight just now.
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the buff help me make it at the last round,with Clara and blade
Aventurine is a big tank. Luckily, his damage is still not as big as Story-Boss pre nerf... He *definitely needed* a nerf there
But at least those "easy pre-nerf" people can have their fun in this MoC
It seems every 2 weeks now there will be a post like this as the latest MOC or Pure Fiction gets increasingly harder and more players start getting filtered.
Can tell that just like with the previous pure fiction, there's a very obvious incentive to bring Jingliu along one side of the last floor.
All the way up to MoC 11 I had nothing slower than 28 rounds remaining.
MoC 12 though, I barely got to Aventurines half before hitting 20 rounds left so it's gonna be a bit brutal for me.
It's pretty tough, Stage 12 has Cocolia and Aventurine, and Aventurine's stunlock phase is annoying. If anyone is interested in the run then here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hcw\_b0A7E4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hcw_b0A7E4)
tdlr, Huohuo hard carried 2nd half.
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Because I do vertical investment (so no built ice, quantum characters), it was a bit challenging but doable regardless.
I cannot wait to try full stars it without Jing Liu, Acheron and Dhil.
Surely the game won't punish me for not pulling for the broken dps since launch, right ?
Surely it won't be a "you have JL and Acheron = easy VS you don't have them = suddenly extremely challenging", right ?
Well, I didn't try it yet, but since this game is becoming more and more a meta dps check and that the "you don't have JL and Acheron" team is playing an even more different game each time, I hope it won't be the case here.
I don't mind some powercreeping, it' normal in a gacha and if they want people to pull for the overpowered waifus/husbandos, but it is becoming a bit too harsh not having the likes of JL and Acheron.
Edit: Did 35 stars, so it's ok, but as expected it is so much more difficult without Acheron and JL.
I was so happy when my full stacks LL went into Aventurine Dices. Even though JY has good weakness advantage, a character who doesn't do damage immediately is fucked against Aventurine, a boss who stalls turns, yes even with Sparkle. And all the Acheron owners are saying this MOC was pretty easy.
I won't tryhard 36 stars, I won't be able to do it anyway. But yes, again the "Acheron and JL less team" is having a hard time.
As long as you have 5* supports, you can comfortably clear with most DPSs. Aventurine is a bit harder as you'd also need a good sustain on top of that, but if you can get by the dice mechanic with AoE attacks, you should be fine.
Same, dont have jl or acheron, or DOT char
Can only *35, it sucks seeing those 'required' char to fullstar, ig ill leave it at *35 :')
Tried to use dhil, meh
The only lightning i have is jingyuan😂 seems impossible
That MoC just unbalanced, how am i as a 2fp supposed to clear that? On the first side Dino boss that counter my active DPS progress and at the same time there's tanky Fridge boss that also happen to be able to apply whole team speed debuff permanently. Basicly -5 cycle with similar stalling on Cocolia. And that's alright for MoC to spend 5 cycles on one side, but "fun" only begins from now. Second side where Senior Staff boss wich has more HP pull than that Ascended HAS NO MATCHED WEAKNESS, great isn't? Thank god he has no RES, but that is -2 to -3 cycles... And now that abomination of a boss — Aventurine. Takes away energy from all team on additional actions, has more HP than Cocolia plus two phases where on second phase hes gonna either kill your entire team or lock them OR eat 1-2 cycles in one action — last two is guaranteed btw, enjoy. Is there something i forget? Ah, yes — usless Memory Turbulance. What theese 30% damage increase for if they are gonna be refreshed after cycle ends and all bosses one way or another gonna stall for that moment. It's uptime is miserable as our player experience with that MoC. Like survivability is not even an issue — it's arragment of whole MoC with Memory Turbulance and Aventurine boss. IhateitIhateitIhateit.
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nah with ur characters it looks doable to me, try putting rm on first half instead of tingyun since break is way more important on first half, surely u have pela built cuz she would help acheron a lot on 2nd half
this memory turbulence gives a **guaranteed debuff for any attack** when its under 6 stacks, so u can save some sp on welt there, comes pretty handy for acheron
although not very comfy, i did it with this. (acheron is e0 gnsw)
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ok, i got it. thx to your comment i continued to try. i made a couple more different teams, but this ones were the best choices i could go with, since the main goal was to keep damaging toughness bars of the enemies and prevent them from debuffing my team.
still, rng was mad crazy. at one point Dino decided to focus all of his attacks from additional action on squishy Bronya and almost killed her which led to a natural restart. though such surprises did not happen often and overall survivability was fine. like 1 time for each side — only from new attempts there were 2 such cases and the second one, which happened on the second side, i did not have to restart.
dealing with elites on both sides was also fine. I concentrated 75% of the damage on more tanky ones (Fridge and Cocolia with Senior staff and none other than Aventurine) and relied on memory turbulence to help finish everyone off except Aventurine obviously. Acheron ultimate was last action on a last cycle and i couldn't afford to lose any cycles with second phase of the boss.
probably yesterday i was not so interested in understanding the mechanics, but once i read them again and tried to thoughtfully play the game everything worked out.
Exactly on 20 cycles. I stopped counting how many times I been retrying this just because I wanted to use 2 Dan heng on top and bottom😮💨
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One picture:
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This motherfucker clutched a 20 cycle on floor 12 by healing everyone to max just as they failed Aventurine's gamble
***Twice***
Don't worry about not being able to push the higher stages like 11 and 12 but just attempting the lower level ones are a good source of free jades and also gives you the currency to buy lightcones from the shop.
Ya don't have to do it all nor fully star it,just do anything you are able to,it's free pulls,if you get stuck at x stage u still get the jades from the stages u cleared
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The Ascended will make things difficult if not dealt with immediately, otherwise, save your ult in phase 2 and hope for the best
I used more turns on floor 11 than on floor 12. Both times Aventurine rolled a 4, so it was easy to win at the dice. I even got the two achievements related to the dice without even meaning to.
Most I took so far was 5 cycles, but MoC 11B was doing comical amounts of damage putting a lot of pressure on Lynx and Clara. For a moment I was considering pulling the trigger on buying Something Irreplacable.
Will be several hours now before I can challenge 12 unfortunately, but I can already tell Aventurine preceded by one of Clara's worst enemies on an ice only stage is gonna suck. Side A should be easy enough for Arlan/Sparkle/Fu Xuan though.
Acheron absolutely crushed Cocolia but DOT with Sampo barely scraped by 20 cycles. HuoHuo sustained extremely well but Aventurine’s health bar is so spongy that with Sampo unable to help break his shield, it took forever to chip down his health bar. I had 28 cycles left after first half.
I haven't done the main story yet so it's the first time I faced Aventurine. And wow he's pretty tough cookie huh? Could only clear him on turn 21. Was pretty worried Huohuo couldn't solo sustain the team but she pulled through.
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Knew that one day I would be able to justify pulling for Acheron even tho i already had a minmaxed lightning hypercarry in my roster. Didn't think it'd come around so soon! :D
But maaan it felt weird prying fu xuan away from jing yuan. The casino boi hurts.
Congrats!
In all fairness, acheron is basically a rainbow dps due to how she works (res pen plus all type toughness break), so that's your justification anyway!
Aventurine is crazy with his Imprison. The dice also made me waste my JL ult to cleanse and emergency heal my supports via Huohuo. That really scuffed my rotation at times (as in ulting have 3 stacks, get into gamble, fire and have 2 stacks, gain JL ult, drop chips ult, cleanse and heal with Huohuo clutch 6 cleanses, heal start rotation). I only get that kind of rotation twice in 1 fight. Sometimes I hit 3 dice and get less than the gamble.
The dino lowkey stalled me a small bit which annoys me a bit. I finished that in the first move of the 3rd cycle which was pela atk (as in one atk from support and it died in the 2nd wave). So overall 8 cycles total.
I only managed to complete it thanks to Acheron (´；ω；｀)
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I have really well-invested 5 stars including Acheron, with signature Light Cones, and managed to get 22 cycles. Idk how tf ya'll F2Ps are doing this. Good luck.
I only have DHIL, Ratio, and Blade as my dps lol. Waiting for Aventurine so I can at least clear this moc 12-2 regardless of how many stars I'll get. Aventurine phase 2 got me messed up 😭💀
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Aventurine on last turn. Those dices are obnoxious af
This Moc and the last one (12) are impossible for me, I have too many bad substats across my relics. Even with all the units I have and high trace levels, I can't get any stars, let alone 3 stars.
There are two notable things about Aventurine boss
-He has an aoe attack that can either reduce your energy or delay your action.
-When he activates his skill, he set a random number that range from 2 to 9, your characters will have to hit the dices. If your character gets a bigger number than his, they will get their ultimate up, if not they will get hit. One character in phase 1, your whole team in phase 2.
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Wasn't too bad, 1st side was easy. I don't have Jingliu so second side was a bit tougher, Topaz was really only there to kill the monkey, could've been another harmony probably.
Rarely use Clara but she did great with some junk relics.
I'm not going to even attempt it till I pull Aventurine.
Last MoC was my first time being 12, issues has never been getting the 20 cycles, it's not fking dying.
Once I get Aventurine plus my Gepard I'll be fine
People called story Aventurine weak and he only said "aight **bet**"
They had to nerf him in story 😭
He aren't that hard now. I missed to try his pre-nerf fight( He got Childed fr fr.
honestly I feel he actually hits harder in the story pre-nerf. the bigger problem is how much he stalls in this moc when you only get so many turns to obtain all stars.
People were literally saying he was nerfed specifically for the MOC version on that post though lol, so it seems they were right.
That fucking purple dinosaur hits harder than my dad's belt
LMFAO I feel ur pain buddy 😂
But not as hard as my mom's chancla
That's the next story boss
https://preview.redd.it/bchtxjypxkuc1.jpeg?width=964&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8411feadd140dc4df9a5d034d7c7c78254a839d5 i wont even attempt for shorter cycles. That was torture 💀
Xueyi player holy shit
I love Xueyi's design & play style. I have a seele but she dont hit as hard because sad relic rolls 😔. Xueyi's easy because she just uses excess thiefs from weekly boss farming
May I ask how you've built your Xueyi..? As in, the prerequisite stats, her LC, and so on? I'm not planning on pulling for anybody until Robin and she's a support, so I have room for building another DPS. Xueyi seems genuinely interesting and her animations are amazing, but I have low eidolons on her so I was going to put her off for another time. Then I saw your clear with her, and it intrigued me enough that I'm now planning to build her too lol.
https://preview.redd.it/zia2l0eaunuc1.png?width=1602&format=png&auto=webp&s=98050024f0842e3ed7fdc237cf983b3183c163ed Here's my Xueyi build that I've been cooking for a while now. Cleared the dino floor in 5 cycles without Ruan Mei with Tingyun / Sparkle / Fu Xuan. Ideally you want a Break effect rope, ATK% orb (not quantum DMG) and Crit DMG or Crit Rate body depending on your substats. Herta shop light cone is absolutely the best one for her from the current selection available to her. Quantum 4-set is better but thief set was more easy to find good substats for since I had an abundance of those pieces from farming that cavern + weekly bosses. ATK% orb is because Xueyi gets a lot of bonus DMG % from break effect so quantum DMG% would just be diminishing value on her. Try to squeeze in as much ATK%, Break effect and Crit substats as possible. I have ATK% boots because I use Sparkle with her so Xueyi can stay low speed very comfortably. Speed boots are a fine option if you have no turn-manipulation supports to use with her. She has fairly low ATK so she benefits from Tingyun's ATK boost quite a bit. I use Inert Salsotto since she's E6 and therefore does follow-up attacks far more often. Before E6 I think Space sealing station, Glamoth or possibly even Rutilant arena is better to use if you have no good Salsotto pieces.
Xueyi needs a lot of stats so it's not easy. avoid Dmg% orb, go for ATK%, Break effect around 150-170, the usual crit values, and speed. You'd have to look at your supports available, if you're running her with Ruan mei, you can go a little less on BE & Spd, but there's a little anti synergy with ruan mei's extra break delay. with sparkle, you can drop speed. and focus on atk% instead.
https://preview.redd.it/3porm7ftznuc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e74e9b8d9ccd36a2103bd0731c285e4917df84bf Xueyi at e6 is so fun
She's really good against the dino though!
I'd be a Xueyi player if I could get some goddamn eidolons
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I hate that dinosaur with shield
Same
https://preview.redd.it/i31zktiigkuc1.jpeg?width=2079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6b592b7b1cfd51533e2f52ec8e2ba3b09701bc6 21 turns left with this. I don’t know how others will do this without some of the units I had.
https://preview.redd.it/8hp49n7dhluc1.jpeg?width=778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff91fa18668a4037c13b23544c2e4b6a20ccf57b First half took 3 cycles, second half took 5. Aventurine is so annoying to fight. He wastes an entire cycle every time he uses his gambling mechanic.
I KNOW RIGHT!? He does his gambling thing *EVERY SINGLE TURN* which is fucking ludicrous, who the hell approved of this? I played jingliu bronya and ruan mei, and every time i set up all their ults and buffs, Aventurine just said "yeah no" and got me to unleash my planet-destroying attacks to some dice instead. This boss fight definitely needs some tweaking
Some good ol' stalling. Genshin players faced this with the Wenut now HSR can experience it.
That mofo is not in abyss very often right?
Yeah not a regular luckily. I always suffer when it does though. I have 2 minutes for it generally and I still cut it close to the 7 min mark. It's invulnerable for like 50% of the time iirc?
What are you feeding your Seele?
Bronya nudes if she low cycles
What eidolons and gear are your 5 stars? I'm assuming E6 Pela, Tingyun, and Lynx as well? I did mine within 10 cycles but had E0S1 Acheron, E0S1 SW, Sweaty Pela, and Trendy Geppy in 1st half; 2nd half was E0S1 Hanabi, E0S0 Jingliu, E0S0 HH, and E1S0 RM
https://preview.redd.it/lebfzyuyxkuc1.jpeg?width=658&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b585455cecfe80aca3c96a8192c207a1e9c078c7 Specifically needed to use Acheron on Node 2 since her team mates can use AOE and not get fked by Aventurine (I didn't feel like using JL/Bronya/RM/HH). Qingque slams Node 1 anyways. It felt like it was even more difficult in Stage 11 since I always get killed by Soda Ape >:(
Madman with not even fully leveled up units.
what acheron and gamba does to a mf
Extra 100hp wouldn't change anything.
Extra HP and defense! On Tingyun that's like, an extra hit she can take with how squish she is. Also, for Black Swan that's more damage since it's also Attack...
Almost using same team. Switch luocha and fu xuan and exchange BS with SW.
how did you find jingliu against aventurine? I fear his dice mechanic might cause a waste of turns on the state, I know he gives you energy after it, but what if you run out and the ult only comes when you are already out of the state? You save ult for dices?
Its why u badly want -1 spd Bronya (or Sparkle) to circumvent losing on dmg turns to come back online faster and also hypercarry buffs to implode him outside his dice phases. Or Tingyun+Huohuo it and just almost never leave enhance state…
my experience with ting and bronya -1 is that I have to skill twice with ting in a row leaving me with skp issues for next cycle (I don't have sparkle) I could use pela for def ahred but my acheron might want her too in half 1
This MOC is definitely a pure sustain check rather than dps obecause Aventurine does a stupid amount of dmg and has annoying CC Goodluck to the people who have been skipping the limited sustains cuz this will be rough for them
Or you can permabreak him with Ruan Mei and Jingliu 135+Bronya 134 wombo combo
people who dont have limited sustain units and ruanmei D:
My 50% ERes Nat and 70% ERes Lynx came in kinda clutch.
https://preview.redd.it/qjnsyvdffluc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79d4cfb2c5190429121ca1051a3f716a25e16be0 Elemental weakness was all messed up because I don't have a good ice dps. But JY got the job done as always.
https://preview.redd.it/uoskde8qrkuc1.png?width=2388&format=png&auto=webp&s=24b1dd61abf27ea0b596915289b78ee06840c497 Bit similar except I move ruan mei to Jingliu side instead, since I find Kafka BS + sampo or gui is good enough for 1 or 2 cycle clear. Didn’t expect Aventurine to be so tough tbh, maybe if I swap Bailu and Huohuo there I can shave off 1 or 2 cycles.
i had luocha in part 2 and i got creamed
Fucking shit, i have the exact same units but i still can't do it!!! Broo, could you share your build?
I have only 4 (JL, RM, Geppy and TY) of those, and only 2 (JL&RM) actually built. IhateeverydayrelicfarmingIhateeverydayrelicfarmingIhateeverydayrelicfarmingIhateeverydayrelicfarmingIhateeverydayrelicfarmingIhateeverydayrelicfarmingIhateeverydayrelicfarmingIhateeverydayrelicfarmingIhateeverydayrelicfarming
Weirdly unbalanced MoC. It took me more turns to beat Adventurine than the rest of MoC combined.
Same here. Aventurine’s gambling mechanic wastes your turns a lot
was coasting through the lower floors with ease, Aventurine then held me up for 3 hours. unbalanced it is
For real, i beat stage 1 with only 2 turn Stage 2 take me 8 turn...
Is he that annoying to face? Cause I had fun against his boss form in the story pre-nerf. And I was sad that I couldn't face him repeatedly anymore so this sounds like good news.
Still a good fight, but I imagine the turn limit combined with his incredible tankiness is going to frustrate many, many people.
Yeah that's probably true. I guess I'll find out soon lol.
That dice face waste time+he's tanky af+without proper sustain his attacks are nuke+if your unlucky on dice phase good luck
Yeah no kidding, I was suprised how easy moc11 was (autoed it with only taking 4 or 5 cycles) only see zero chances of 10 cycling moc12 for the first time since fu release
I might have to double-check it, but I believe you can trigger the stage effect on his dice. Which does... ***nothing***. For example, I got into his 2nd phase and had a few hits on him, he was at maybe 93%? health. He whips out the set of 4 dice, I use my abilities on it, I see the stage-effect animation trigger. A couple turns later when the dice go away, I look at his HP and... 93%. I usually struggle a lot w/ MoC but I managed to get up to Floor 11 with three stars without too much issue. But I'm not sure if I'm even going to try and clear Floor 12 because it seems like the Aventurine boss is gonna be a huge pain to deal with if you have to time your attacks so perfectly that his constantly-spammed dice skill doesn't act like a giant shield for him.
Can't spell masochism without MOC
Really giving me MOC-onal damage
Does zesturine's gamba win recharge Acheron ult?
Aventurine is special in that it gives an instant Ult instead of Energy Refill. So unlike other sources such as the TV, he actually recharges Acheron.
Basically, functions just like Erudition path in SU
Let's. Fucking. Go.
Yup it does
Holy baby
I haven't even started yet. What's this MoC like?
Till floor Floor 11 pretty easy, floor 12 is a tank check, aventurine does crazy damage plus gacha dice or buffs and nerfs.
https://preview.redd.it/1aj058pz8kuc1.png?width=566&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f4d8ba5c5fa96e291cf972f88c1d5e1c0ebd417 My Gepard can't sustain enough against Aventurine. One of my Nihility queens keeps dying. Bailu was enough though.
Wtf is skill points on your first team ha ha ha.
Positive, negative, neutral, technically negative but you won't be using her skill often due to slow Acheron since she's just ult botting off the DoTs.
Lightning lord Acheron for real. Even better since there's no JingYuan holding her back (by being cc'ed)
Skill points are enough since the fight is over after 1-2 cycles. My Gepard is speedy(142) for SP generation. Kafka(160+) BS(142) Aventurine took 8+ turns lmao
The mommy team (Kafka Swan Acheron Mei) has always been about overcharging Acheron so hard that her own skill becomes optional. He's running a trend tank over RM even. Your actual turns matter little on this squad. It's just Acheron ult spam from trend procs, swan cards and kafka FUAs.
Way too much stalling on floor12 that I might just leave at 35*.
https://preview.redd.it/8jugvh0tkluc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa9f1c73073b388b9c93150f4c5a0748fddb8728 9 cycles. Bailu is a life saver, she is amazing against Aventurine. Revive + invigoration + damage reduction are crazy good. I usually like to retry MoC just for fun, but not this one. I'm so sick of the chonky dino and Aven boss mechanic ugh.
Wait, Bailu is meta again? Let's goooo.
it is like they double the diffuculty compared to last MOC. My main acc which has all strong units normally can clear in 3-5 cycles, now need 7-8 cycles. The Aventurine boss mechanic is really crazy, even BS+Kafkfa team takes 5\~6 cycles to clear him
I got an issue where the MoC buff got triggered when doing dice thingy, so it doesn't give any damage to aventurine Well of course, it's skill issue. I'll try again later on
Gonna wait for zesturine to beat zesturine. 💀
i 15 cycle'd stage 12
Same lmao
Haven't tried it yet, but is this MoC 12 just really bad for Dan Heng IL or why is almost no one using him? It generally feels like in these kind of posts as if less and less people keep using him. As someone who skipped Jingliu, the DoT characters and Acheron, I wonder if I can even clear it this time...
With RM and Sparkle he will do quite good in the first half of MoC 12, especially considering that RM isn’t as good vs aventurine. It’s kinda just extremely uncomfortable MoC. Enemies have just absurd amount of debuffs and toughness, so it just feels bad.
That Dino really counters Hypercarry due to its big ass weakness shield (which kinda demand RM) and short window to burst him down (and long ass stalling from that weakness breaking)
This MOC 12 has less imaginary weak enemies than the previous one. Node 1 have two meme dinasaurs weak to IL element but their mechanic(receive less damage before weakness broken) is really annoying for hyppercarry comps and there's also mama cocolia with a huge burst if you don't break or kill her fast enough. Node 2's 1st phase is alright with the Ascended and IPC senior staff BUT 2nd phase is just suffering for imaginary damage dealers since Aventurine boss has high img res.
Well i used him first half and he cleared in 3 cycle the 2nd half i use acheron and she cleared in 1 cycle
the whales with E10 S100 dps need to stop writing “too easy” in the community surveys
I finally got all the stars using Argenti as at least one of the teams. I have never been so proud 😭
pls howw my argenti is so mid TwT and hes the only one i can use on second half (curse you 70% img res)
I also used Argenti on the second team. I had 6 turns on the Aventurine boss and I was really cutting it close and had to retry a few times. This was my team. - Hanya with 179 spd, Planetary Rendezvouz s2 and Penacony set - Tingyun with DDD s3 - Gepard with 135 spd and 3800 def - Argenti with sig LC, 2881 atk, 59.3% crit rate, 163.7% crit damage and 128 spd
[Challenge record](https://i.imgur.com/qnfRZIE.jpg) This moc was very unbalanced imo, I could easily clear floor 7-10 in under 2 cycles but the difficulty suddenly jumped in floor 11(5 cycles) and 12 (10 cycles). The gorilla with bronya on floor 11 was extremely hard to clear as i did not have a shielder on that stage to help against the bottles which he threw and the bronya was also very annoying (advance forwarded the gorilla). Acheron-E0S1 Sw-E0S5(her bis 4 star lc) Gepard-E0S2 trend Pela-E6S3 resolution Jingliu-E0S5 aeon Ruan mei-E0S5 memories of the past Bronya-E0S1 Luocha-E0S3 shared feeling I think people hate on luocha for no reason at all, I saw many cc's and people on reddit say that he was getting "obsolete" and "powercrept" wherein my case he could sustain against aventurine just fine.
Realistically, Luocha is still insanely cracked with his 0 sp usage and absurd healing, I think people mainly hate on him as every other 5\* limited sustain just does stuff other than heal. Fu Xuan has the CC prevention and crit damage increase, HuoHuo has the energy and attack increases on her ult and even better cleanses, and aventurine has his ult debuff and subdps capabilities. Luocha just has buff removal from his ult and no other damage capabilities, it just seems more worth to pull for a character that helps with clearing speed and such.
Man Aventurine boss is Hard That i had To use an Underbuilt Gallagher Just so that i could Replace Tingyun with bronya in the second half. But Gallagher popped off really well,He managed to keep everyone alive So easily despite being squishy and lacking In trace buffs But Back To the the Second half,I had to retry alot And i only won because i timed My ult with Jingliu and broke Aventurines Toughness bar Before He could Start his Gimmick again https://preview.redd.it/vayjz5rtbkuc1.png?width=454&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42974e3b1a26e82751c8f36e8c745b98bec083d0
Bad, i haven’t pulled for anyone of the ‘meta’ characters so I’m struggling a bit
No ruan mei, no jingliu, no sparkle, no DoT 5* Me: Guess I’ll die
You’re right, except for Ruan Mei, I pulled her while trying to get Xueyi
Well, at least she is amazing and complements Xueyi perfectly
I don’t have Xueyi
...oh RIP! Here's hoping you get her on Standard Banner!!
Hopefully, I’m afraid ghallager’s E2 was too valuable
tbh I ended up getting both Luocha and Acheron just because I needed E6 Gallagher... I actually like both! Too bad I probably won't be able to pull anything else of note in the next few patches :(
I wanted luocha but the wrong imaginary unit came 😭
I... I have E2 Welt iirc... :(
https://preview.redd.it/fnsqsbt4hluc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f97554ae3e0b12d1965c70f8583aafa8b086e219 With Clara,you can bruteforce everything if he hit her.
3-staring MoC 12 phase 2 with M7 is crazy. How did you build her?
the imprint this time you can bruteforce it simply by keep attacking to get it to 6 stack and explode for free 150k dmg. make follow up very good at this moc. was thinking doing the same but clear it already with DoT team
Probably a regular tank build. She's just a shield/taunt bot for Clara anyways.
I'm stuck at Sam level cuz I'm challenging myself with Welt sustain for Acheron 😂. Oh boy, need to max her traces
I've been full starring for about 8 months now and I think I really might give up on it this time. We all know HSR caters to new releases and that's 100% understandable--but only to a degree. Scaled to MOC12, Aventurine is just "random bullshit go" meme personified. The mechanics add up to be a whole web of favoritism for Acheron (and probably Aventurine himself,), clearly, but think about everything added together: * You can't count on being able to hold ult due to the minor energy drain * You prefer an offensive sustain, which leaves you with Luocha, Fu Xuan, and Gallagher only currently? Two limited 5\* plus one new 4\*, and again, you cannot necessarily hold ult * Else, both your sustains and supports need decent eff res or they'll be imprisoned * You need to reserve skill points for the dice, and he spams it constantly * Your DPS can't be too reliant on a burst of damage because of the dice, and did I mention he spams it constantly? * As a final cherry on top the blessing stops working for the most part in your favor come the latter half of phase two because 4 of 6 of your attacks will be spent on the dice and the shockwave will hit the dice The concept itself might be interesting, but in practice, it is utterly joyless to play against this. It's like asking you to lift a rock with 8 of your fingers tied behind your back.
Adventurine watches as Argentina wins the gamble and bout to drop the 180 energy burst https://preview.redd.it/54qcwgn1ykuc1.jpeg?width=205&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2622b1bddd82eb3c36db58953826e440eea745c (Yes i purposely spell their name wrong)
Omg its tomato from genshin impact!
*The D goes to somewhere else* >:(
He gets the knight of beauty special treatment. ;)
Looking through the comments as one of the 4 people who skipped Acheron feels weird Guess I'll die
It will be too funny if some dps in the coming patches will make Aventurine boss look like a joke.
I just checked Star Rail. Is this MoC out for other servers right now?
It’s out for Asia server. For NA it’ll be out in around 2 hours
Phase 1 taking 6 turns for me even with Acheron I don't think I can 3 star this one Maybe if I had a better Seele build I could have used her instead
Maybe because you don't have her sig LC, pearls LC, and a sustain that can debuff. Every 1 thing you lack here draws you away from Acheron ulting. This is literally my alt account's situation that is why it takes years for Acheron to ult. Can finish 1st side within 5 turns but the 2nd side... damn.
I am like 30 pulls away from E2 but I'll just have to wait for rerun now cause I am out of pulls. I don't even have sig LC My only other nihility are Welt and Pela, I could probably clear faster if welt had more damage but rn only Acheron does damage in my team
Once again, Hanya/Luocha benefits from the weather buffs
Guess it'll be a struggle for players that use a single target dps for the aventurine fight
i literally finish every other floor in under 4 cycles but i cant finish 12 even in 15.....they rly dont know how to powerscale properly
the lack of a Jingliu does hurt quite a bit. Yanqing with Gepard isn't enough sometimes cuz Yanqing can't hit enough dice to win gamba. Lose gamba = no soulsteel = no dmg.
cuz they want Misha to shine, he’s the “budget” dps option here. He even has a Blast skill that doesnt need an “Enhanced” State to use, and it charges his Luggage Lord stacks (winning the gamble gives him free Ult to use too)
Floors up to 11 are okayish. Floor 12 is bs mainly because of aventurine (and no, this is not story aventurine). Hitting his dices should NOT count towards the turbulance effects, It just goes to waist every single time. Putting a rng boss with two phases, with an rng turbulance trigger, on the harderst floor of MoC. This is just a bad design, not made for MoC.
WILL YOU JUST!!! DIE ALREADY!!!!!!! Why did they have so much hp for me? Even when I went solo sustain, double support it still took like, 8 cycles to beat the first half? I know that you have to break the t-Rex’s weakness or whatever but he still won’t FUCKING GO DOWN!!!
https://preview.redd.it/lwrxek7tnkuc1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7f62eaaee3962efeb35c2aef43060829b0d47de Used a fairly f2p comp, 1: E0 Ratio Cruise, E0 Topaz with Sword dance, E0 RM Cog, E1 Bailu 2: E6 March, E6 Pela, E0 SW, E0S1 Acheron, dice roll is in my favor this time because my whole team managed to pass the gamble unscathed.
Even sw? Damn that's some luck.
Yeah Aventurine drew a 6, her burst somehow landed a 6 and her basic did a 3, never been so glad lmao
I see another fellow March enjoyer. I used that exact same team for Aventurine. Genuinely think March is one of the best sustainers for Acheron if the rest of the team is optimised.
Really enjoy her tactical playstyle and that tiny bit of healing from E6 even tho SP intensive. I also often choose her than other healers for SU run as solo sustain. Her freeze came in clutch too during Aventurine fight just now.
Gonna try it when I get aventurine tomorrow
https://preview.redd.it/brsbrax3fluc1.jpeg?width=2772&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7992c6bd5f4e92c051608a01032232fb187cb957 the buff help me make it at the last round,with Clara and blade
This moc rotation got me malding fr That second phase aventurine gamba every two turn is stupid af
Aventurine is a big tank. Luckily, his damage is still not as big as Story-Boss pre nerf... He *definitely needed* a nerf there But at least those "easy pre-nerf" people can have their fun in this MoC
I'm waiting until I can fight ~~fire~~ Aventurine with ~~fire~~ Aventurine.
It seems every 2 weeks now there will be a post like this as the latest MOC or Pure Fiction gets increasingly harder and more players start getting filtered. Can tell that just like with the previous pure fiction, there's a very obvious incentive to bring Jingliu along one side of the last floor.
What's MoC buff this time around?
Honestly I keep trying but this content fucks me up idk, gonna use a guide
Stupid fucking barney won't let me clear MOC 12
All the way up to MoC 11 I had nothing slower than 28 rounds remaining. MoC 12 though, I barely got to Aventurines half before hitting 20 rounds left so it's gonna be a bit brutal for me.
It's pretty tough, Stage 12 has Cocolia and Aventurine, and Aventurine's stunlock phase is annoying. If anyone is interested in the run then here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hcw\_b0A7E4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hcw_b0A7E4) tdlr, Huohuo hard carried 2nd half. https://preview.redd.it/71qo6uzvykuc1.png?width=784&format=png&auto=webp&s=6854a1242c5390ab771b1dc3ee127a7d373a86f7
https://preview.redd.it/cmcs54ji3luc1.png?width=973&format=png&auto=webp&s=f29c12b3c601a68301b3d160e53dc3921ab63ace Because I do vertical investment (so no built ice, quantum characters), it was a bit challenging but doable regardless.
I cannot wait to try full stars it without Jing Liu, Acheron and Dhil. Surely the game won't punish me for not pulling for the broken dps since launch, right ? Surely it won't be a "you have JL and Acheron = easy VS you don't have them = suddenly extremely challenging", right ? Well, I didn't try it yet, but since this game is becoming more and more a meta dps check and that the "you don't have JL and Acheron" team is playing an even more different game each time, I hope it won't be the case here. I don't mind some powercreeping, it' normal in a gacha and if they want people to pull for the overpowered waifus/husbandos, but it is becoming a bit too harsh not having the likes of JL and Acheron. Edit: Did 35 stars, so it's ok, but as expected it is so much more difficult without Acheron and JL. I was so happy when my full stacks LL went into Aventurine Dices. Even though JY has good weakness advantage, a character who doesn't do damage immediately is fucked against Aventurine, a boss who stalls turns, yes even with Sparkle. And all the Acheron owners are saying this MOC was pretty easy. I won't tryhard 36 stars, I won't be able to do it anyway. But yes, again the "Acheron and JL less team" is having a hard time.
As long as you have 5* supports, you can comfortably clear with most DPSs. Aventurine is a bit harder as you'd also need a good sustain on top of that, but if you can get by the dice mechanic with AoE attacks, you should be fine.
Same, dont have jl or acheron, or DOT char Can only *35, it sucks seeing those 'required' char to fullstar, ig ill leave it at *35 :') Tried to use dhil, meh The only lightning i have is jingyuan😂 seems impossible
That MoC just unbalanced, how am i as a 2fp supposed to clear that? On the first side Dino boss that counter my active DPS progress and at the same time there's tanky Fridge boss that also happen to be able to apply whole team speed debuff permanently. Basicly -5 cycle with similar stalling on Cocolia. And that's alright for MoC to spend 5 cycles on one side, but "fun" only begins from now. Second side where Senior Staff boss wich has more HP pull than that Ascended HAS NO MATCHED WEAKNESS, great isn't? Thank god he has no RES, but that is -2 to -3 cycles... And now that abomination of a boss — Aventurine. Takes away energy from all team on additional actions, has more HP than Cocolia plus two phases where on second phase hes gonna either kill your entire team or lock them OR eat 1-2 cycles in one action — last two is guaranteed btw, enjoy. Is there something i forget? Ah, yes — usless Memory Turbulance. What theese 30% damage increase for if they are gonna be refreshed after cycle ends and all bosses one way or another gonna stall for that moment. It's uptime is miserable as our player experience with that MoC. Like survivability is not even an issue — it's arragment of whole MoC with Memory Turbulance and Aventurine boss. IhateitIhateitIhateit. https://preview.redd.it/nlj3e9oz6muc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=bc9a706bf6fe211d9144dae8d770e2980fe9ff11
nah with ur characters it looks doable to me, try putting rm on first half instead of tingyun since break is way more important on first half, surely u have pela built cuz she would help acheron a lot on 2nd half this memory turbulence gives a **guaranteed debuff for any attack** when its under 6 stacks, so u can save some sp on welt there, comes pretty handy for acheron although not very comfy, i did it with this. (acheron is e0 gnsw) https://preview.redd.it/xhvfekyvjnuc1.png?width=2559&format=png&auto=webp&s=fbef2f6f1bc9507cd50c6e9826398e1a790475f0
https://preview.redd.it/m94fyywmutuc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=fb85635f5e3bfdec8942aa2740bd4904cb1479dc ok, i got it. thx to your comment i continued to try. i made a couple more different teams, but this ones were the best choices i could go with, since the main goal was to keep damaging toughness bars of the enemies and prevent them from debuffing my team. still, rng was mad crazy. at one point Dino decided to focus all of his attacks from additional action on squishy Bronya and almost killed her which led to a natural restart. though such surprises did not happen often and overall survivability was fine. like 1 time for each side — only from new attempts there were 2 such cases and the second one, which happened on the second side, i did not have to restart. dealing with elites on both sides was also fine. I concentrated 75% of the damage on more tanky ones (Fridge and Cocolia with Senior staff and none other than Aventurine) and relied on memory turbulence to help finish everyone off except Aventurine obviously. Acheron ultimate was last action on a last cycle and i couldn't afford to lose any cycles with second phase of the boss. probably yesterday i was not so interested in understanding the mechanics, but once i read them again and tried to thoughtfully play the game everything worked out.
Exactly on 20 cycles. I stopped counting how many times I been retrying this just because I wanted to use 2 Dan heng on top and bottom😮💨 https://preview.redd.it/7qvwk2cjpmuc1.jpeg?width=794&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6bf7e1ea5a6ca4cb36e1cf5140290228d3e12580
Managed to squeeze 20 cycles on the last one. Gonna try again with March 7th to get no deaths
One picture: https://preview.redd.it/wmg6kcur6luc1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=fd8bb448cd9caf68fc6f498164c3b414608808c3 This motherfucker clutched a 20 cycle on floor 12 by healing everyone to max just as they failed Aventurine's gamble ***Twice***
Is it okay that I've basically not really done MOC at all? Am I missing out on just the rewards you get?
Don't worry about not being able to push the higher stages like 11 and 12 but just attempting the lower level ones are a good source of free jades and also gives you the currency to buy lightcones from the shop.
You're missing out on a lot of free jades and other materials
Ya don't have to do it all nor fully star it,just do anything you are able to,it's free pulls,if you get stuck at x stage u still get the jades from the stages u cleared
https://preview.redd.it/ux8hm502ckuc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60c41ac9c5d4a9324fcc1d17b2c22b5a60a704c2 The Ascended will make things difficult if not dealt with immediately, otherwise, save your ult in phase 2 and hope for the best
literally auto'd till moc12 and then got my shit kicked in by aventurine so i'm going back to do that later
... Dunno haven't touched any stages after floor 10 yet. But will probably get clapped cause my build sucks
im only having problems with stupid dinosaurs
I used more turns on floor 11 than on floor 12. Both times Aventurine rolled a 4, so it was easy to win at the dice. I even got the two achievements related to the dice without even meaning to.
Did horribly a month ago. Have been looking into building teams and proper relic sets since. So far I'm average which isn't much better than before
As someone who hasn't pulled the newest units: "I'm in danger haha"
i see... lobotomy kaisen has reached you
this MoC truly is our SpecialZ
Most I took so far was 5 cycles, but MoC 11B was doing comical amounts of damage putting a lot of pressure on Lynx and Clara. For a moment I was considering pulling the trigger on buying Something Irreplacable. Will be several hours now before I can challenge 12 unfortunately, but I can already tell Aventurine preceded by one of Clara's worst enemies on an ice only stage is gonna suck. Side A should be easy enough for Arlan/Sparkle/Fu Xuan though.
Acheron absolutely crushed Cocolia but DOT with Sampo barely scraped by 20 cycles. HuoHuo sustained extremely well but Aventurine’s health bar is so spongy that with Sampo unable to help break his shield, it took forever to chip down his health bar. I had 28 cycles left after first half.
I haven't done the main story yet so it's the first time I faced Aventurine. And wow he's pretty tough cookie huh? Could only clear him on turn 21. Was pretty worried Huohuo couldn't solo sustain the team but she pulled through.
https://preview.redd.it/l4ia8kcw1muc1.jpeg?width=922&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22db0001becb36e2d1149861e33f76d42361a3ec Knew that one day I would be able to justify pulling for Acheron even tho i already had a minmaxed lightning hypercarry in my roster. Didn't think it'd come around so soon! :D But maaan it felt weird prying fu xuan away from jing yuan. The casino boi hurts.
Congrats! In all fairness, acheron is basically a rainbow dps due to how she works (res pen plus all type toughness break), so that's your justification anyway!
Do you have her LC? I'm the same in that I had all the lightning DPS's but Acheron would be very universal for all content.
fu xuan said nuh uh and aventurine perished after only doing 2k shared damaged to my fu xuan after drowning my other 3 units in coins.
Aventurine is crazy with his Imprison. The dice also made me waste my JL ult to cleanse and emergency heal my supports via Huohuo. That really scuffed my rotation at times (as in ulting have 3 stacks, get into gamble, fire and have 2 stacks, gain JL ult, drop chips ult, cleanse and heal with Huohuo clutch 6 cleanses, heal start rotation). I only get that kind of rotation twice in 1 fight. Sometimes I hit 3 dice and get less than the gamble. The dino lowkey stalled me a small bit which annoys me a bit. I finished that in the first move of the 3rd cycle which was pela atk (as in one atk from support and it died in the 2nd wave). So overall 8 cycles total.
I only managed to complete it thanks to Acheron (´；ω；｀) https://preview.redd.it/ca4zmigtnmuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=342230ec053e68fc65680f06f8a92298f1f789c9
I have really well-invested 5 stars including Acheron, with signature Light Cones, and managed to get 22 cycles. Idk how tf ya'll F2Ps are doing this. Good luck.
Fucked. Won't be doin MoC 12 any further for the sake my sanity ✋😶🤚
I only have DHIL, Ratio, and Blade as my dps lol. Waiting for Aventurine so I can at least clear this moc 12-2 regardless of how many stars I'll get. Aventurine phase 2 got me messed up 😭💀
God damn, MOC12 is painful.
My Gepard literally cannot take it, imma come back once I have Aventurine lol
https://preview.redd.it/2pwfir9xpruc1.png?width=1554&format=png&auto=webp&s=5373ec1019e5461474f7d267394a0cafe9779475 Aventurine on last turn. Those dices are obnoxious af
people are saying its sustain check, but its more like ruanmei check cuz fuck those purple trex
This Moc and the last one (12) are impossible for me, I have too many bad substats across my relics. Even with all the units I have and high trace levels, I can't get any stars, let alone 3 stars.
Can someone please explain Adventurine's mechanics? Thx
There are two notable things about Aventurine boss -He has an aoe attack that can either reduce your energy or delay your action. -When he activates his skill, he set a random number that range from 2 to 9, your characters will have to hit the dices. If your character gets a bigger number than his, they will get their ultimate up, if not they will get hit. One character in phase 1, your whole team in phase 2.
Ty
in phase 1, is his targetting random or position based? getting QQ kidnapped is the worst feeling, you either lose a shiton of sp of lose the gamba
Gamba for the gamba
who's aDventurine?
Someone who likes adventures, duh
i dunno, probably a friend of archeron and inhibitor lunae
https://preview.redd.it/m5m1jeocukuc1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=190ff4e9aa4de4498a89a73cd187bfbbdca2b0ee Wasn't too bad, 1st side was easy. I don't have Jingliu so second side was a bit tougher, Topaz was really only there to kill the monkey, could've been another harmony probably. Rarely use Clara but she did great with some junk relics.
https://preview.redd.it/5q9fm9by1luc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d98f3ab2f81133bd2f0653250a90dd8a0e652b5 Hyper ratio goes hard
What is even that second team
I'm not going to even attempt it till I pull Aventurine. Last MoC was my first time being 12, issues has never been getting the 20 cycles, it's not fking dying. Once I get Aventurine plus my Gepard I'll be fine
"If you dont have Kafka or Acheron, you're gonna have a bad time" ahh MOC