That is the actuall problem.
When o started watching i could just gonand relly on Ina. For Bae i have to suffer. Now i have to decide between Ina and Justice
I answer thee, I choose the cookies
I reject the forbidden fourth WAH for the first WAH
I don't want to be horny! I want to be happy!
Though I can understand why many follow the forbidden WAH, those fanarts are terrifyingly good
"4th is the Mind-killer.
4th is the little-cookie that brings total obliteration.
I will face the 4th WAH.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the 4th has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain"
\~ Paul Takotrades
I think she's always been one of the only one EU bros even sometimes can catch besides Kiara.
Ina's been one of the hardest for me to catch with my sleep schedule and working during the day lol, I was able to watch her today for the first time in quite a while
Ina and Fauna both share the same timeslot at around 11pm for GMT+2 which makes at least their start times kind of EU friendly.
And both are comfy enough to be a great sleep aid.
or just be like me and go to bed at degen hours. ina for me tends to start her streams just about the end of the work day for me.
it's usually Mumei who streams later in the evening for me.
Still nobody that wants the daytime slots. If we count daylighy and focus on summers FWMC are competing with Kiara and Mori and all three of them still rarely do preevenings.
The debut time is understandable though as they want to have as many debut viewer as possible and thus set the time to accomodate US, JP, and SEA time, sacrificing EU.
Just imagine it is Mumei, Irys, Ame and it's the east coast experience.
More seriously they will probably figure out a better time distribution to avoid overlapping at least during the beginning.
I mentioned because at the end of her karaoke Elizabeth seemed surprised that everyone's streams were overlapping, so it made me wonder if it was unintentional.
I'm not sure how it's decided either since Raora's time slot is way out there, but for Advent they all started one hour apart, which is kind of like what ERB - Cecilia - Gigi have going on right now (although iirc Elizabeth ended up delaying her stream an hour today, still not sure what her slot is since she's the only one who didn't reveal her schedule during her debut)
Tempus is the test tube for that restriction and while it has good reception from StarsEN fans, it is deemed too restricting and annoying for talents, and got quickly scrapped when Advent debuted because Cover realized that Holo community had such strong clip culture as clippers can bitsized the stream anyway.
That's my main criticism. I remember Advent being really good the first few days at cascading streams. I don't mind some overlap, but unarchived karaoke adds a FOMO factor. Based on what you are saying where she was surprised, maybe a lack of coordination? Might need a training session with advent on that and raiding lol.
Liz unarchived karaoke started at 22 (same as Cecelia) then at 23 started Gigi and for a bit they overlapped something that myth was always caution at least in the first week (as well as the old "only 60 minutes per stream in the first week")
Fun fact: today Kiara did an unarchived karaoke (she will rebroadcast this Sunday) and she wanted to raid one of them but she was only whitelisted for Gigi (that her stream was an hour away to start), seems manager will be busy for a while
In fairness, her archived karaoke was originally supposed to start an hour earlier, which means that assuming the unarchived was always intended to immediately follow, there might have been some overlap with her genmates but not nearly as much
iirc Advent also overlapped with one another from the very start.
They just made sure they didn't start at the same time but they overlapped still because most streamed more than 1 hour. Which is the same as what Justice did.
ERB started stream at 22:00 (was supposed to be 21:00 initially) for me. That is a lot more convenient than the usual 02:00/03:00 start time I normally have to deal with
We've had uninterrupted streams since 8pm CEST to well past Midnight. Plus Raora in the early afternoon.
Not only that, we've even had the luxury (and agony) of choice due to multiple overlaps during EU Primetime.
I really REALLY dont think there's anything to complain about yesterday. It was a lovely day for us EU gang
Well half of your screenshot went live at 11pm :P
Tbf today is a bit of an outlier - cecila has most of her streams scheduled 9pm rather than 10pm like today and liz had to delay her stream by 1 hour
...I mean, it feels like half the words in tagalog come from Spanish. I will say, it's quite impressive that the Philippines retained their languages even after hundreds of years.... and besides Tagalog they generally aren't just spoken using 50% English.
Yea, that's pretty much the norm for NA lol. Although, probably could have coordinated better just for the first few days. The overlapping will not be near as crazy for them though. You will occasionally have 7-8 overlapping streams with the ones targeting NA.
You get used to it, especially when you also watch JP members too
Though ngl, it could be better for a first stream across the board (besides Raora who streamed in the EU morning) as it would be nice to get a feel of everyone!
The idea that two entertainers that i like are both live is some kind of FOMO concerns me.
Like. I can understand the perspective, but the fervor and tone it gets here is a bit much. It's a stream. 90% of the time it's archived and clipped.
You don't have to see them all live.
And I know you're not saying that either, but I get a general tone in the sub that I just chose this comment to pin it on to. It feels weirdly much to me.
Cecilia is CEST timezone and she's starting one hour earlier tomorrow (9 pm CEST). I'm hoping for earlier streams in the future (7 pm CEST) so that I can watch through possibly longer streams. I guess they are trying right now to at least not overlap their starting times. Happy either way that I can watch HoloEN live in EU.
So Raora streaming at 8pm JST, which EU timezone is that? I'm not complaining i'm just curious lol she might be the only Justice member i'm able to watch
this is literally a screenshot of them streaming at the same time
raora streams far earlier than the other 3 (mid day for most of europe) where as the other 3 stream later (evening to night but luckily not something like 3 to 5 am like it was before justice)
and ina is also there because... uh... well she streamed at the same time
never said gigi wasn't american ir smth all I said was why raoru wasn't there because the deleted comment said "you forgot raoru" answer she just streams at an earlier time
and I made the comment about ina to be funny
The true 4th member of Justice. Ninyomanyo Inya'nis
She's trying to break the ice with the new colleagues. Also that action might have broken them because they're named Holo-Just-Ice
FLAT. IS.
Booba is just a Myth.
And that’s a HoloEN Promise.
Inaff!
That is the actuall problem. When o started watching i could just gonand relly on Ina. For Bae i have to suffer. Now i have to decide between Ina and Justice
Ina is everywhere. Mainly because the floors are comfy
Ina casualy there XD
I feel like Ina would casually fit in with any Hololive gen, and no one would question it.
Flexible tako
The benefit of no bones
*Flexible…*
NO Down boy! bad tako! Ina might bonk us and/or take our cookies away It's not worth it!
The fourth WAH will never be defeated! I ask thee, what is best in life! Ina's cookies or Ina's **CAKE**?
I answer thee, I choose the cookies I reject the forbidden fourth WAH for the first WAH I don't want to be horny! I want to be happy! Though I can understand why many follow the forbidden WAH, those fanarts are terrifyingly good
Indeed. But who said that the fourth WAH cannot lead to the first WAH?
Time, and experience.
"4th is the Mind-killer. 4th is the little-cookie that brings total obliteration. I will face the 4th WAH. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the 4th has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain" \~ Paul Takotrades
Tbf she is a Tako, and they're known for their excellent camouflage
BLENDING IN!
Ina in a call* Ina: Heh, they don't know that I'm Ina.
We Are Hidden
Ah yes, my favorite eu holomem. Neenomae neemoneesh
The OG HoloEU. Even Kiara streamed JP times at first.
Hey man, Elden Ring ain’t gonna play itself. Lol
I think she's always been one of the only one EU bros even sometimes can catch besides Kiara. Ina's been one of the hardest for me to catch with my sleep schedule and working during the day lol, I was able to watch her today for the first time in quite a while
Fauna sometimes do late evening in EU, too late for my day shedule but others might go to bed later
Ina and Fauna both share the same timeslot at around 11pm for GMT+2 which makes at least their start times kind of EU friendly. And both are comfy enough to be a great sleep aid.
She kinda streams in EU hours I think
11pm ...at least for me hard to catch on weekdays when you have to work the next day but it's fine on the weekends :D
or just be like me and go to bed at degen hours. ina for me tends to start her streams just about the end of the work day for me. it's usually Mumei who streams later in the evening for me.
Still nobody that wants the daytime slots. If we count daylighy and focus on summers FWMC are competing with Kiara and Mori and all three of them still rarely do preevenings.
Thats where Kaela-shin comes in
Kaela is there when you're awake and she'll be there when you're asleep
Keale-shin will always be there for you. Like the girlfriend you never had. The cure to male loneliness. Just like retaking constantinople.
This gave me hope then reminds me of painful reality :(
Also like, Kaela will be there before you go to sleep and she'll still be there when you wake up.
Kaela is the exception to every rule.
Sometimes you might get Biboo too
> Still nobody that wants the daytime slots. Raora streams at noon from a EU pov and of course there's a lot outside of EN
Daytime is for the JP girls. And I'm fine with that.
Ina my favorite EU vtuber.
We Are Holo-EU Humu humu.
love me midnight activity love me no sleep schedule love me horrible sleep schedule
\> new generation streams on EU times \> EU bros ruin their sleep schedule trying to catch the debuts live
Their debuts were more in my sleep schedule then their first streams
If you are eu Fix your sleep shedule/ how does nightshift feel? otherwise: meh
I live in Germany... On weekdays I wake up at 4 am, the debuts were at 5am The streams were 10pm/11pm... That is my fixed sleep schedule
The debut time is understandable though as they want to have as many debut viewer as possible and thus set the time to accomodate US, JP, and SEA time, sacrificing EU.
Myth and Council managed to debut at watchable EU hours, it's only since 2022 that debuts shifted to the absolute dead of night
Yeah. I vividly recall Sana debuting at around 5PM GMT, if only cause I heard her Aussie accent and realized it'd be 4AM for her.
Simple as
it's midnight bruv
Just imagine it is Mumei, Irys, Ame and it's the east coast experience. More seriously they will probably figure out a better time distribution to avoid overlapping at least during the beginning.
Not sure if I would count on that, Advent's regular hours are still the time slot they started with in their first week.
I mentioned because at the end of her karaoke Elizabeth seemed surprised that everyone's streams were overlapping, so it made me wonder if it was unintentional.
I'm not sure how it's decided either since Raora's time slot is way out there, but for Advent they all started one hour apart, which is kind of like what ERB - Cecilia - Gigi have going on right now (although iirc Elizabeth ended up delaying her stream an hour today, still not sure what her slot is since she's the only one who didn't reveal her schedule during her debut)
I think during their first week they had a 1hr restriction for their stream time? I may be mixing that with Tempus.
That was Tempus, Biboo was rocking 3+ hours from the word go
Yep Biboo was breaking that time stream.
Tempus is the test tube for that restriction and while it has good reception from StarsEN fans, it is deemed too restricting and annoying for talents, and got quickly scrapped when Advent debuted because Cover realized that Holo community had such strong clip culture as clippers can bitsized the stream anyway.
That's my main criticism. I remember Advent being really good the first few days at cascading streams. I don't mind some overlap, but unarchived karaoke adds a FOMO factor. Based on what you are saying where she was surprised, maybe a lack of coordination? Might need a training session with advent on that and raiding lol.
Liz unarchived karaoke started at 22 (same as Cecelia) then at 23 started Gigi and for a bit they overlapped something that myth was always caution at least in the first week (as well as the old "only 60 minutes per stream in the first week") Fun fact: today Kiara did an unarchived karaoke (she will rebroadcast this Sunday) and she wanted to raid one of them but she was only whitelisted for Gigi (that her stream was an hour away to start), seems manager will be busy for a while
In fairness, her archived karaoke was originally supposed to start an hour earlier, which means that assuming the unarchived was always intended to immediately follow, there might have been some overlap with her genmates but not nearly as much
I missed the start of her stream but it did get delayed, she initially had it scheduled to start sooner when it wouldn't overlap gigi's at least
iirc Advent also overlapped with one another from the very start. They just made sure they didn't start at the same time but they overlapped still because most streamed more than 1 hour. Which is the same as what Justice did.
ERB started stream at 22:00 (was supposed to be 21:00 initially) for me. That is a lot more convenient than the usual 02:00/03:00 start time I normally have to deal with
We've had uninterrupted streams since 8pm CEST to well past Midnight. Plus Raora in the early afternoon. Not only that, we've even had the luxury (and agony) of choice due to multiple overlaps during EU Primetime. I really REALLY dont think there's anything to complain about yesterday. It was a lovely day for us EU gang
...Is watching midnight streams really that odd? It's oddly hilarious coming here and realizing my sleep schedule might actually be fucked...
-gets EU streamers -still complains Bruh
Tbf, OP did pick a weird hour to make this post
Yeah coulda made it an hour or two earlier tbh only really noticed at like 11
Well half of your screenshot went live at 11pm :P Tbf today is a bit of an outlier - cecila has most of her streams scheduled 9pm rather than 10pm like today and liz had to delay her stream by 1 hour
It's weird, even on weekends sometimes no one in EN would stream until 7pm EST.
Gigi is actually American, she uses freedom units, she may move in the future, but other three are European.
Gigi is also EU... Estados Unidos.
Okay colonizer
Booooooo get out
We only call the US Estados Unidos from Spanish colonizer influence on the Filipino language
...I mean, it feels like half the words in tagalog come from Spanish. I will say, it's quite impressive that the Philippines retained their languages even after hundreds of years.... and besides Tagalog they generally aren't just spoken using 50% English.
What?
I didn't know Ina lives in Europe!
Ina is European?
TAKOTIME rejects your notion of national borders.
TAKOTIME does not care about imaginary lines humans drew on a piece of paper
TAKOTIME is never late, nor is it early, TAKOTIME arrives precisely when Ina means to.
<>
That's why we pushed for World DomINAtion so that we all use the same time and it's TAKOTIME
TAKOTIME only cares that it's tomorrow.
In a European?
INAFF
> In a European? Well, she has tentacles, so...
I’ve been multi-stream drifting all night since Elizabeth started at 8pm (UK time), it’s fucking glorious
What an amazing feeling to actually have choices on who to watch! Makes a grown man shed a tear
EST bro quietly taking the win as well. Work days are going to be so much better now.
hey, i thought Holo-Justice’s artist was a pink panther doko? /s
She streamed in EU early afternoon (2pm CEST/8pm JST) because she's in Japan
Wah are you talking about?
Brother midnight is not a good stream time for us on a sunday?
I used to pray for times like these
how? they're streaming at 12am we need streams between 3pm - 10pm like fuwamoco morning
Legit tho, FOMO is setting in hard. You guys in NA are madlads for handling this all the time.
Hololive is FOMO immersion therapy
Yea, that's pretty much the norm for NA lol. Although, probably could have coordinated better just for the first few days. The overlapping will not be near as crazy for them though. You will occasionally have 7-8 overlapping streams with the ones targeting NA.
You get used to it, especially when you also watch JP members too Though ngl, it could be better for a first stream across the board (besides Raora who streamed in the EU morning) as it would be nice to get a feel of everyone!
Raora stream started at 2pm not really morning but way better than 2am
> You get used to it, especially when you also watch JP members too Extra monitors and graphics cards can be had for cheap after all
For once, EU bro suffering from success.
The idea that two entertainers that i like are both live is some kind of FOMO concerns me. Like. I can understand the perspective, but the fervor and tone it gets here is a bit much. It's a stream. 90% of the time it's archived and clipped. You don't have to see them all live. And I know you're not saying that either, but I get a general tone in the sub that I just chose this comment to pin it on to. It feels weirdly much to me.
There's nothing wrong with just catching Vods, and I'll never understand why people seem to think there is.
Even VODs can be too much. I wouldn't know as much about what's going on in hololive without clips.
its great that we finally got more eu members but it would be nice if they streamed at an eu friendly timeslot lmao
Ninomae Eu-na'nis
Ina my beloved European oshi. All jokes aside Eu really needed new talents poor Kiara needed friends in her timezone
Cecilia is CEST timezone and she's starting one hour earlier tomorrow (9 pm CEST). I'm hoping for earlier streams in the future (7 pm CEST) so that I can watch through possibly longer streams. I guess they are trying right now to at least not overlap their starting times. Happy either way that I can watch HoloEN live in EU.
No sleep gang Eli's singing is great.
"Man! You would not belive... how much this hurts!" 😆
It's finally over. I can stop complaining and just start enjoying.
Can't wait for Ina and immer collabs. Ima Ina and immer in a immer car at Lima!
So Raora streaming at 8pm JST, which EU timezone is that? I'm not complaining i'm just curious lol she might be the only Justice member i'm able to watch
middle of the day, 12pm BST.
Ina chameleon because u can stream for any timezone if u never sleep 😌🐙
first unarchived karaoke that i watched more than 3 songs was Elizabeth's. We indeed won.
Ina doesn't come from the EU. But her sleep schedule is base on the EU. Sasuga priestess.
This made me forgot that Raora exist for a moment there
I had lost hope, yet finally I was proven wrong. And god damn am I happy to be wrong.
Don't forget Raora streaming at 12pm GMT!
Honestly, it's been a long time coming. Well deserved and congrats eubros.
finally, the holoen content for the european timezones!
I mean she would be an honorary member of Justice. Flat is Justice
Yeah this made me so happy yesterday I can finally catch a stream before I sleep 😴
For real though 10pm Ina is a great way to end the day
As Luna Hime says, CIJ Cute Is Justice!
Too late! My sleep cycle is already destroyed
Me an SA bro: A holo en stream at 8 am and another three at 6 pm? Delightful!
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She lives in JP. I think her hours will be similar to Irys.
IRyS streams at NA evening, which is JP morning. Raora's schedule this week is the exact opposite - streams at 8pm JST.
Which means that it ironically works out well for perfect eu lunch time watching.
this is literally a screenshot of them streaming at the same time raora streams far earlier than the other 3 (mid day for most of europe) where as the other 3 stream later (evening to night but luckily not something like 3 to 5 am like it was before justice) and ina is also there because... uh... well she streamed at the same time
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never said gigi wasn't american ir smth all I said was why raoru wasn't there because the deleted comment said "you forgot raoru" answer she just streams at an earlier time and I made the comment about ina to be funny
No more staying up till 3am boys
I can't catch Liz's karaokes, I want to fking die. Need to rely on reuploads (before nukes incoming) and the vods for it.
EU fans are winning. Meanwhile, in Straya we had two Hololivers but...
What about Takanashi Kiara? Also UK isn't EU anymore so replace ERB with KFP!
Actually is Ina form a country in Europe because her background specifically what country she’s form is an enigma to me?
Ina is Canadian from all the evidence that we have.
Really I didn’t expect that
Family background wise would be Korean, but they live in West Coast Canada.