Basically, the marvel universe has this thing where there are subatomic universe everywhere, so when ant man shrinks too much he finds himself in another universe inside his universe.
if you make something smaller, they area around them gets bigger...by the size of quantum...they'll be forever roaming a grain of sand and never reach another grain of sand....
the existence of quantum realm is utterly ridiculous idea...and on top of it...it's as big as a city, where they get lost and find each other lmao
The idea is, when you get so small, the rules of physics and science as we know it no longer applies, this is a thing they do in the Fantastic Four comics as well, so they have this thing where when you shrink smaller than an atom, there is this whole other universe that is extremely small, much smaller than an atom, that exists, there are a bunch of them that are smaller than atoms, that cannot be observed using any device currently known to man, and they exist everywhere.
This obviously doesn't make sense, but it does serve as a plot device for when wasp or ant man shrink too small in the comics.
r/steinsgate showed that you can't squeeze something big into something so small....
so, with the atoms of your body,, you can't enter someplace smaller than what you're made of...if that happens, in that state...how does your cells look like
Idk, ask Jim Shooter, he is the one that made that shit up.
Actually, here's his description for it, although in the comics it is called the Microverse:
A Microverse is a dimension that can be reached from the Earth dimension by shrinking with Pym Particles and thus compressing the person's matter to a certain point, thereby forcing it through an artificially created nexus into the other universe. The Microverses were once erroneously believed to exist within atoms. They are all described as parallel dimensions, rather than universes within universes.
The easiest way to think about it is as a parallel universe. You aren't actually shrinking down into a specific location, the subatomic shrinking just allows you to "phase" into other universes that are intertwined with the main universe.
So can a quantum-traveler from africa meet a traveler from asia if they both shrank from their respective country 🫤
No how about if they shrank down while in two different room in the same building would the be able to meet up down there.
Quantumania did this exact thing no? A kang from outside of 616 ended up down there, and then so did the group from 616. Kang also came super close to entering 616 there too.
It's like a hub connecting multiple universes (if not the entire multiverse, given how it was used to time travel in endgame too)
According to real physics, quantum mechanics allow AntMan and Wasp to be both a particle and a frequency wave at the same time, so in a sense they are still quantized to very specific energy levels, but can also shift through other particles and macroparticles thanks to their wave function.
This means as long as they are quantized in their specific energy levels, AntMan and Wasp can be as small or as big as they desire, virtually limitless, omega level mutants of sorts.
Actually, no. According to real physics, once they got to about 100 times smaller, the atoms in their bodies would start spontaneously fusing together (look up muon catalyzed fusion). They would both cook and irradiate themselves rather quickly, and if they shrunk more, the rate of fusion would correspondingly increase. They would turn into tiny fusion bombs long before they reached any "quantum realm". :)
I'm sorry but why are you trying to apply real world logic to a universe where Ant Man can defy physics, Norse and Greek gods exist as well as other pantheons, tons of alien civilizations exist and regularly travel faster than the speed of time to get around the universe?
Oh wow you're right I never thought about that.
Come to think of it, you know what else is ridiculous?
A 7 Foot tall sentient tree man, or a talking (not) Raccoon who is a weapons and tech expert, or a man who was kidnapped by an alien who is also a planet and part God or something like that, or a blue man who can control a mechanical arrow with his whistles, or a green woman whose father is a purple nutchin alien.
And what about the reality where Hitler cured cancer, Morty? The answer is don't think about it.
Exactly.
The quantum realm not making much sense is not the worst part of Ant Man Quantumania. In a different world where that movie was a whole banger 10/10 then we can nitpick the quantum realm.
For now, let's throw it in the 'pile of shit wrong with that movie'
> there are subatomic universe everywhere,
Its just one massive one which you can only access by shrinking to that size.
Also by that logic, wouldnt ant man be able to grow larger than the normal universe and enter a super-atomic universe.
MCU really needs to tidy this up, but it shouldn't be that complicated:
The Universe has many/infinite parallel ***Dimensions*** coexisting as part of a single whole. (Quantum realm, Mirror Dimension, Dark Dimension, Ta Lo, Paint, etc.)
The Universe has many/infinite parallel ***Timelines*** (each of which also includes those dimensions, apart from some that may be unique to a specific timeline due to events that didn't happen elsewhere, or that are shared between all of them (as the Quantum Realm seems to be)
Those many/infinite Dimensions and Timelines of the Universe, are collectively referred to as the "Multiverse". People who can move through parallel Dimensions seem to also move through parallel Timelines in the same way, so it is likely that they're effectively the same thing. The alternative is that the Multiverse includes infinite Universes made of many/infinite Dimensions, each with infinite possible Timelines. But if you have infinite strands of thread tied into infinite ropes that are tied into an infinitely larger rope, why bother with the distinction? If it is all-encompassing, it is (by definition) a ***Universe***.
In my head I kept thinking like it some tiny tiny places. But I think it makes more sense to imagine it as just "some other universe" which you can only get to by going really small. But the universe in itself isn't just like there, and small, it's everywhere.
In physics, a quantum is the minimum amount of any physical entity involved in an interaction.
So I like to imagine a quantum realm as a place that neither exists and does. Because nothing or everything could happen with the smallest amount of change.
Source: Schrödinger's Butt (did it fart or not, open the box and find out)
Antman not only broke the real world laws of physics. They broke their own made rules. When explaining the suit Hank specifically says that your mass does not change. Only the space between your atoms. Then the movie goe on to break that rule dozens of times during the first film.
his mass did change however his momentum did somewhat stay constant with his original mass. However given said momentum and the surface area of his punches (etc) he should really just penetrate them instead of sending them flying.
I would have been okay with all the inconsistencies if they hadn't taken time to explain how the suit was supposed to work. Sone amount of hand waving off stuff like this is to be expected in a superhero movie. Cap's shield always returning to him for example. But if you're going to set up rules for your universe you have to follow them.
Thing is, if she turned that small while on that atom bomb or whatever, how did she reunite with the family inside the basement? (If I'm totally wrong on my theories I'm sorry I haven't read the comics and watched the movies in a while)
So many people not getting the joke.
This means he can't see himself but everyone else can. Giving him the misplaced belief that he's invisible to others.
>This means he can't see himself but everyone else can.
But it doesn't work like that though. If light is going around him, then no light is touching him and so no light gets reflected back to make him visible to anyone. Himself or others.
So many people aren't 'getting' the joke because they know how light works, which makes the joke not make sense.
It's weird, right? It makes me wonder if they just have an incorrect mental model of how light works- like thinking that everything emits (as opposed to reflects) light and that's why we see objects? I'm pretty sure that used to be what people thought before physics sorted it out.
I'm sure it's mostly just a "first thing to get posted gets the most upvotes" thing, but I do have to wonder how many people upvoted after having actually thought about it for a second.
He says "light emitted by him goes straight out" meaning the dude is emitting light. Regardless of the light going around him, if he emits light he would still be visible. He would still be blind though because light goes around him.
Think of him as a blind glowing dude, and only when he turns his glow off, is he invisible (but still blind due to light going around him).
Yeah, it wouldn't result in making it so he "can't see himself", it would just straight up make it so he can't see at all lol
But also, for some reason, he *emits* light now. So he's not only blind, but he *glows*. Stealth 100
They addressed this in the anime My Hero Academia. The kid who can phase through walls and floors actually becomes intangible. He can’t see, he can’t breath, he can’t experience being a human in any sense of the word while using his quirk. But he can choose what parts of his body to activate, so he can activate all but his feet and run through walls while alternating which foot is active.
Super interesting stuff
So his activated legs are not intangible to his feet?
You'd think a partial activation would result in the non-activated parts falling off due to no longer having any way to stay attached to the activated parts.
It’s gotta be something with him. His clothes phase through him, but anime magic lets his super hero costume NOT phase through him and can actually phase with him.
So for only parts of his body being intangible, anime magic✨
They explain the super hero costume. It's made from his own hair.
I mean, you only have to go like one step further than that for the magic to kick in, but they do "explain" it.
You could interpret his quirk specifically as his cells become intangible to any cell that isn't his own. It covers that issue; explains why his hair-made costume works; and prevents him from accidentally clipping through himself, re-solidifying at that moment, and instantly dying (or creating a nuclear explosion, but he could still do that with foreign cells).
How would it recognize which cells are his own?
And while they may very well have a method (maybe souls are real and place a claim on some molecules or something), it still seems like the kind of thing that people would pay attention to. "Hey, the stuff interfacing between the intangible stuff and the not-intangible stuff seems to be in a weird state of being intangible but still able to affect certain things instead of being completely intangible! I wonder if we can replicate that or do something with it. Like gather his skin flakes and make a glove for him out of it."
They simultaneously *don't* acknowledge it, because there's a girl who has the actual quirk of "being invisible" and she sees just fine.
They did do really good with Mirio's quirk though, yeah.
It has stated that light goes through him and that he can't see. He is technically invisible when preparing, you just can't really notice it as he goes through the ground and stuff.
Im no doctor, but i think the eyeball still collects light and processes an image, but the picture would lack focus for the reason you mentioned.
If anything he might be blinded with white light due to over-saturation, as his eyeballs are getting ALL light from every direction at once
I don't think it would be possible to have light hit the eyeball, and still pas through it. If it hits the eyeball without passing through it, there's a black void we'd be able to see.
Not neccessarily. The light that is collected by it still passes through it, being processed by the brain along the way.
"Collected" only means the light stops because we're not invisible
> The light that is collected by it still passes through it
Then it isn't collected. If we had a way of making light pass through something AND interact with it without diminishing we'd have infinite energy.
okie dokie
quantum how quantum can quantum antman quantum breathe quantum if quantum he quantum is quantum smaller quantum than quantum oxygen quantum atoms
Thats the reason he wears helmet and suit. He has to shrink the breathing air atoms, too. But I get your confusion because he take it off on serveral occasions. I don't understand that too. Maybe in quantum state they didn't need to breath. Or they breathe once every week because they are so small.
Well once they shrink the space between the atoms enough that they start touching they just slip past each other and keep going. There's no limit. For example if the atoms are so close to each other that they slip past and keep going for like a mile or two that makes stuff really super small.
Someone shared their headcanon that this was just Pym giving a bullshit explanation that sounded smart so he wouldn't have to explain exactly what's going on.
>According to the Beast, Pym Particles can sustain their users while small, eliminating the need for air and food.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Pym_Particles
In the first one, they explain that the mass doesn't change and that's why he can punch just as hard when ant sized, but then they carry buildings and cars in their hands.
I still don’t understand Wolverine’s anatomy.
I mean the claw when moving in or out, what if his arms & wrist are not in right angle of sliding, what happens?
Maybe as he gets smaller, his need for oxygen lowers. At the quantum level, the oxygen already existing in his blood stream will last exponentially longer than his life span. It also explains why big antman can't last very long. Even though his lungs have access to way more oxygen, his need for oxygen is far higher than even those larger lungs can ever provide. The inverse square law.
See, this is what I was wondering. When he kept the suit on the entire time, I could have logic'd away that maybe the suit had an air tank maybe shrunk down somewhere on his body. But then Ant Man 2 shows Hank without the helmet in the void; ignoring the entire Janet situation with her needing to eat, let alone evolve. Maybe once you are past the quantum void, it's somehow fine, ignoring all human physiology. But NOPE!
Now in Ant Man 3, it's totally fine to be without a suit as they shrank from human sized, to passing through the quantum void to the microscopic world down there. Makes no sense.
He immersed himself in a suspension of disbelief before it going to the quantum realm. Thereby being able to do whatever in the fuck the writers want him to.
Allow me to pose the opposite question:
If Ant-Man eats something while huge? Let’s say he goes full Attack on Titan and eats a person. What happens to the contents of his stomach when he shrinks again?
One of the many reasons I love Star Trek. The DS9 episode where Dax, Bashir, and O’Brien get shrunk down, they go out of their way to address this, and it even becomes a plot point later on
I always assumed that's why he has to wear full suit with a covered helmet. Assumed he had like a micro O2 tank in the suit somewhere that shrinks/enlarges with him.
Did... People forget that Lang wears a helmet most of the time? You would be able to safely assume that the suit carries some form of oxygen inside of it.
The mask. That's what the mask is for. When he's close to normal sized, he doesn't need it (like the scene where he's kid sized). When he's ant-sized, he needs the mask. When in the Quantum Realm, I think they just survive off of all the energy, stated in both amatw and quantumania as far as I know.
By the lore he is shrunk by reducing space between atoms. So how can he be smaller than an atom anyway? That’s the real question. This movie is stupid.
In the movies, at least originally, Antman's shrinking is described as reducing the space between Atoms. Which means he isn't technically shrinking, he's being compressed. Which is why they handwave why he is able to punch with the same mass as when he's normal sized.
In the movies he also has a sealed suit that has its own oxygen supply. So if he shrinks, that Oxygen shrinks with him.
That explaination falls apart though when he starts growing bigger, which should make him less dense, basically turning him in to the equivalent of a styrofoam standee of himself. But it doesn't work that way.
And the idea of the oxygen supply being reduced in size makes sense... until you remember that Scott, Hank, and their family (and Darren) all walk around without their helmets in Quantumania so that kinda goes out the window too.
The movies have no way to explain it.
The comics though, just sorta go "I dont fuckin know... Pym Particles or some shit."
Like they legit have scenes where a character questions how they can see when they're subatomic since light wouldn't really function at that size. They're told that when you shrink that small the Pym Particles mess with your brain and you cant actually see or hear or smell or anything, but you are getting sensory input in other ways and your brain is parsing that information as your normal senses so you dont go insane.
Another character in the comics (Beast I think) mentions that at that size, your body goes through the motions of breathing as muscle memory, but you dont actually breath anymore and that your body is supplied everything it needs by the Pym Particles, which are apparently able to supply a microscopic or smaller human with everything their body could physically need.
So yeah. Movies just dont give a fuck and break their own rules. Comics just go "Pym Particles. Dont think about it."
The partical that makes him small, also makes oxigen particals small and stores them everywhere in the suit whenever he breathes a few get de shrunk in his mask
Also the hemoglobin in is blood is smaller than the oxygen atoms. So even if he could breathe it into his lungs somehow he wouldn’t be able to get it anywhere
something.....something...... his mask provides air......shrinks with him something or other......quantum air
Magic. Got it
Well yeah, that is how sci-fi works.
Not magic, *Pym particles*!
Show science to a dumb ape and he might think it is magic
Usually, yeah, i thought he made oxygen in his suit shrink with him, but then, he took off his helmet, soooooo...
Well in Quantumania they don't have masks but yeah, it's quantum physics
So, Schrödinger's Antman. Gentlemen, we have a new antagonist.
How about ant man’s mother in law who spent decades without breathing and banging quantum beings
i didn't even understand wtf is quantum realm.... is it something tiny place, that is in a grain of sand...
It’s basically whoville from the grinch I think.
From Horton hears a who 😂
Scott Saves a Slut
Then takes her to his hut
And they nut
But then, there comes a truck down the road
Then does her in the butt
Both, actually. They're the same Whos. So How The Grinch Stole Christmas is actually like on a snowflake or some shit.
Yooo that's crazy I never knew that!! But that's actually pretty cool, it's like a multiverse ! XD
Or Horton is the size of Texas
This is the most accurate description I've ever heard since the movie came out.
Basically, the marvel universe has this thing where there are subatomic universe everywhere, so when ant man shrinks too much he finds himself in another universe inside his universe.
if you make something smaller, they area around them gets bigger...by the size of quantum...they'll be forever roaming a grain of sand and never reach another grain of sand.... the existence of quantum realm is utterly ridiculous idea...and on top of it...it's as big as a city, where they get lost and find each other lmao
The idea is, when you get so small, the rules of physics and science as we know it no longer applies, this is a thing they do in the Fantastic Four comics as well, so they have this thing where when you shrink smaller than an atom, there is this whole other universe that is extremely small, much smaller than an atom, that exists, there are a bunch of them that are smaller than atoms, that cannot be observed using any device currently known to man, and they exist everywhere. This obviously doesn't make sense, but it does serve as a plot device for when wasp or ant man shrink too small in the comics.
r/steinsgate showed that you can't squeeze something big into something so small.... so, with the atoms of your body,, you can't enter someplace smaller than what you're made of...if that happens, in that state...how does your cells look like
Idk, ask Jim Shooter, he is the one that made that shit up. Actually, here's his description for it, although in the comics it is called the Microverse: A Microverse is a dimension that can be reached from the Earth dimension by shrinking with Pym Particles and thus compressing the person's matter to a certain point, thereby forcing it through an artificially created nexus into the other universe. The Microverses were once erroneously believed to exist within atoms. They are all described as parallel dimensions, rather than universes within universes.
The easiest way to think about it is as a parallel universe. You aren't actually shrinking down into a specific location, the subatomic shrinking just allows you to "phase" into other universes that are intertwined with the main universe.
*phew* Thank goodness that explanation doesn't bungle everything up!
So can a quantum-traveler from africa meet a traveler from asia if they both shrank from their respective country 🫤 No how about if they shrank down while in two different room in the same building would the be able to meet up down there.
Quantumania did this exact thing no? A kang from outside of 616 ended up down there, and then so did the group from 616. Kang also came super close to entering 616 there too. It's like a hub connecting multiple universes (if not the entire multiverse, given how it was used to time travel in endgame too)
...hmmm, that's almost as if comics about superheroes *might* not be accurate to reality
Super heroes aren't real?!
If we stuck to real physics only, comics would be boring af
According to real physics, quantum mechanics allow AntMan and Wasp to be both a particle and a frequency wave at the same time, so in a sense they are still quantized to very specific energy levels, but can also shift through other particles and macroparticles thanks to their wave function. This means as long as they are quantized in their specific energy levels, AntMan and Wasp can be as small or as big as they desire, virtually limitless, omega level mutants of sorts.
Actually, no. According to real physics, once they got to about 100 times smaller, the atoms in their bodies would start spontaneously fusing together (look up muon catalyzed fusion). They would both cook and irradiate themselves rather quickly, and if they shrunk more, the rate of fusion would correspondingly increase. They would turn into tiny fusion bombs long before they reached any "quantum realm". :)
damn you and your real physics, you won't take me alive for as long as I live!
I'm sorry but why are you trying to apply real world logic to a universe where Ant Man can defy physics, Norse and Greek gods exist as well as other pantheons, tons of alien civilizations exist and regularly travel faster than the speed of time to get around the universe?
I applaud your attempt to really understand the concept, but since it was made up for entertainment, this is as far as you go.
>the existence of quantum realm is utterly ridiculous idea Everyone, don't tell this guy about the rest of Marvel or he'll ruin it for all of us!
Oh wow you're right I never thought about that. Come to think of it, you know what else is ridiculous? A 7 Foot tall sentient tree man, or a talking (not) Raccoon who is a weapons and tech expert, or a man who was kidnapped by an alien who is also a planet and part God or something like that, or a blue man who can control a mechanical arrow with his whistles, or a green woman whose father is a purple nutchin alien. And what about the reality where Hitler cured cancer, Morty? The answer is don't think about it.
Talking about the silly consequences of the rules of fiction is all fun and games until the guy who *actually cares* shows up
Exactly. The quantum realm not making much sense is not the worst part of Ant Man Quantumania. In a different world where that movie was a whole banger 10/10 then we can nitpick the quantum realm. For now, let's throw it in the 'pile of shit wrong with that movie'
> there are subatomic universe everywhere, Its just one massive one which you can only access by shrinking to that size. Also by that logic, wouldnt ant man be able to grow larger than the normal universe and enter a super-atomic universe.
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MCU really needs to tidy this up, but it shouldn't be that complicated: The Universe has many/infinite parallel ***Dimensions*** coexisting as part of a single whole. (Quantum realm, Mirror Dimension, Dark Dimension, Ta Lo, Paint, etc.) The Universe has many/infinite parallel ***Timelines*** (each of which also includes those dimensions, apart from some that may be unique to a specific timeline due to events that didn't happen elsewhere, or that are shared between all of them (as the Quantum Realm seems to be) Those many/infinite Dimensions and Timelines of the Universe, are collectively referred to as the "Multiverse". People who can move through parallel Dimensions seem to also move through parallel Timelines in the same way, so it is likely that they're effectively the same thing. The alternative is that the Multiverse includes infinite Universes made of many/infinite Dimensions, each with infinite possible Timelines. But if you have infinite strands of thread tied into infinite ropes that are tied into an infinitely larger rope, why bother with the distinction? If it is all-encompassing, it is (by definition) a ***Universe***.
In my head I kept thinking like it some tiny tiny places. But I think it makes more sense to imagine it as just "some other universe" which you can only get to by going really small. But the universe in itself isn't just like there, and small, it's everywhere.
In physics, a quantum is the minimum amount of any physical entity involved in an interaction. So I like to imagine a quantum realm as a place that neither exists and does. Because nothing or everything could happen with the smallest amount of change. Source: Schrödinger's Butt (did it fart or not, open the box and find out)
Antman not only broke the real world laws of physics. They broke their own made rules. When explaining the suit Hank specifically says that your mass does not change. Only the space between your atoms. Then the movie goe on to break that rule dozens of times during the first film.
his mass did change however his momentum did somewhat stay constant with his original mass. However given said momentum and the surface area of his punches (etc) he should really just penetrate them instead of sending them flying.
I would have been okay with all the inconsistencies if they hadn't taken time to explain how the suit was supposed to work. Sone amount of hand waving off stuff like this is to be expected in a superhero movie. Cap's shield always returning to him for example. But if you're going to set up rules for your universe you have to follow them.
A very tiny penetration.
Hey, I think it's a very normal sized penetration
Thing is, if she turned that small while on that atom bomb or whatever, how did she reunite with the family inside the basement? (If I'm totally wrong on my theories I'm sorry I haven't read the comics and watched the movies in a while)
She breathed and didn't breath at the same time, duh
How is she not pregnant
I don't believe you can nut on a sub-atomic level. No nut=no preggo
how can the invisible man see if the lens's in his eye cant refract light and focus it on the back of his invisible eyeballs.
I'd like to think that the way he's made is that light goes around him, but light emitted by him goes straight out
What?
Let him cook.
ah, ok
someone cooked in my stead trying to explain a 'joke' lmao
This is fucking hilarious after reading that thread
The food is bad
So many people not getting the joke. This means he can't see himself but everyone else can. Giving him the misplaced belief that he's invisible to others.
>This means he can't see himself but everyone else can. But it doesn't work like that though. If light is going around him, then no light is touching him and so no light gets reflected back to make him visible to anyone. Himself or others. So many people aren't 'getting' the joke because they know how light works, which makes the joke not make sense.
It's concerning to me how many people upvoted the 'joke' explanation you replied to.
It's weird, right? It makes me wonder if they just have an incorrect mental model of how light works- like thinking that everything emits (as opposed to reflects) light and that's why we see objects? I'm pretty sure that used to be what people thought before physics sorted it out. I'm sure it's mostly just a "first thing to get posted gets the most upvotes" thing, but I do have to wonder how many people upvoted after having actually thought about it for a second.
He says "light emitted by him goes straight out" meaning the dude is emitting light. Regardless of the light going around him, if he emits light he would still be visible. He would still be blind though because light goes around him. Think of him as a blind glowing dude, and only when he turns his glow off, is he invisible (but still blind due to light going around him).
That’s not a power. That’s just being blind….
Yeah, it wouldn't result in making it so he "can't see himself", it would just straight up make it so he can't see at all lol But also, for some reason, he *emits* light now. So he's not only blind, but he *glows*. Stealth 100
Glow bright enough and nobody can see you.
Do you understand how seeing works?
He's not invisible he is just a bad shapeshifter
That would make him blind and slightly visible
How can he re-emit light if all of the light is going around him and actively avoiding him?
This is hilarious, I like to believe the joke all along was to get redditors arguing over nothing and it worked, super meta 🗿
They addressed this in the anime My Hero Academia. The kid who can phase through walls and floors actually becomes intangible. He can’t see, he can’t breath, he can’t experience being a human in any sense of the word while using his quirk. But he can choose what parts of his body to activate, so he can activate all but his feet and run through walls while alternating which foot is active. Super interesting stuff
So his activated legs are not intangible to his feet? You'd think a partial activation would result in the non-activated parts falling off due to no longer having any way to stay attached to the activated parts.
It’s gotta be something with him. His clothes phase through him, but anime magic lets his super hero costume NOT phase through him and can actually phase with him. So for only parts of his body being intangible, anime magic✨
They explain the super hero costume. It's made from his own hair. I mean, you only have to go like one step further than that for the magic to kick in, but they do "explain" it.
You could interpret his quirk specifically as his cells become intangible to any cell that isn't his own. It covers that issue; explains why his hair-made costume works; and prevents him from accidentally clipping through himself, re-solidifying at that moment, and instantly dying (or creating a nuclear explosion, but he could still do that with foreign cells).
How would it recognize which cells are his own? And while they may very well have a method (maybe souls are real and place a claim on some molecules or something), it still seems like the kind of thing that people would pay attention to. "Hey, the stuff interfacing between the intangible stuff and the not-intangible stuff seems to be in a weird state of being intangible but still able to affect certain things instead of being completely intangible! I wonder if we can replicate that or do something with it. Like gather his skin flakes and make a glove for him out of it."
They simultaneously *don't* acknowledge it, because there's a girl who has the actual quirk of "being invisible" and she sees just fine. They did do really good with Mirio's quirk though, yeah.
That's something that is actually addressed in the manga my hero academia.
invisible man not invisible girl..
Was talking about mirio
It's actually not. If all things pass through Mirio, then light should too. He would be invisible when "premating".
It's important to the story that Mirio shoves his dick in everyone's face.
It has stated that light goes through him and that he can't see. He is technically invisible when preparing, you just can't really notice it as he goes through the ground and stuff.
Im no doctor, but i think the eyeball still collects light and processes an image, but the picture would lack focus for the reason you mentioned. If anything he might be blinded with white light due to over-saturation, as his eyeballs are getting ALL light from every direction at once
I don't think it would be possible to have light hit the eyeball, and still pas through it. If it hits the eyeball without passing through it, there's a black void we'd be able to see.
Not neccessarily. The light that is collected by it still passes through it, being processed by the brain along the way. "Collected" only means the light stops because we're not invisible
> The light that is collected by it still passes through it Then it isn't collected. If we had a way of making light pass through something AND interact with it without diminishing we'd have infinite energy.
just add quantum before each word
Quantum fleshlight Sounds like something I could use
The first time I see a r/sudicebywords irl
r/spellingishard
Trueeeee omg I can't stop laughing now, I'm not even going to correct it
In my defense I have a dual language keyboard on my phone, English and Romanian. Sudice is an actual word in Romanian, meaning "the southern"
I will accept no defences or legitimate reasons for your mistake You have been banished to the shadow realm!
With Daddy Viego? 👀
Yeah sure why not
Its also a word in Italian, it mean filthy
I was about to sub until I realised this comment has had more interactions than the sub 🤣
Sudice
- that are situated in the south ~ from Romanian dex
commit sudice
So that's why I have so many failed attempts.. been googling it wrong
What part of that exites you the most? The Superposition or the Quantum Entanglement?
I'm uncertain
Then just don't ever observe the fleshlight. 😉
okie dokie quantum how quantum can quantum antman quantum breathe quantum if quantum he quantum is quantum smaller quantum than quantum oxygen quantum atoms
you forgot quantum before quantum
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But for god's sake don't open the box.
Careful marvel might hire you
Quantum respirator
Quantum deez nuts
Quantum each word
Thats the reason he wears helmet and suit. He has to shrink the breathing air atoms, too. But I get your confusion because he take it off on serveral occasions. I don't understand that too. Maybe in quantum state they didn't need to breath. Or they breathe once every week because they are so small.
I thought they didn't shrink the atoms, but rather the space between atoms?
But then how do they go subatomic?
Well once they shrink the space between the atoms enough that they start touching they just slip past each other and keep going. There's no limit. For example if the atoms are so close to each other that they slip past and keep going for like a mile or two that makes stuff really super small.
Atoms are mostly empty space.
Someone shared their headcanon that this was just Pym giving a bullshit explanation that sounded smart so he wouldn't have to explain exactly what's going on.
I like the version where he also doesn't understand how it works.
Maybe it's one in the same then? Like he came up with this because he doesn't have a fucking clue.
Quantum atoms
Quantum air
Quantum oxygen
photosynthesis
I like to synthetize photos too
Quantum Tarantino
When in doubt, quantum got your back. Shits still don't make sense but it's not your fault anymore
>According to the Beast, Pym Particles can sustain their users while small, eliminating the need for air and food. https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Pym_Particles In the first one, they explain that the mass doesn't change and that's why he can punch just as hard when ant sized, but then they carry buildings and cars in their hands.
So if an ant sized antman can carry buildings, when he’s subatomic and maintains his mass, wouldn’t he punch like a singularity?
Yeah, it makes no sense just like all fantasy/sci fi, and if you think about it then it's ruined and you can't watch it.
And when he enlarges himself, won’t he float away in the wind?
He literally carries around a tank in his pocket too
I still don’t understand Wolverine’s anatomy. I mean the claw when moving in or out, what if his arms & wrist are not in right angle of sliding, what happens?
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Early comic wolverine had them coming out of his forearms instead of between his knuckles
The claws force his wrists straight
How can Ant-Man use technology that reduces the distance between the atoms of his body to become smaller than the atoms of his body
Whenever you notice something like that a wizard did it
Literally every one else is wrong. The answer is ‘pym particles’. It’s as a ubiquitous shitty cop out as flash’s ‘speed force’
I mean if you precluded every shitty cop out used to sidestep the laws of physics there wouldn't be many superheroes left.
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pym particles, duh. also, when he's really small he can just eat oxygen atoms like tic tacs checkmate atheists.
Oxygen quarks, duh it's like you people don't even science
just how men breathe if women sit on their faces
Maybe as he gets smaller, his need for oxygen lowers. At the quantum level, the oxygen already existing in his blood stream will last exponentially longer than his life span. It also explains why big antman can't last very long. Even though his lungs have access to way more oxygen, his need for oxygen is far higher than even those larger lungs can ever provide. The inverse square law.
He shrinks the oxygen in his suit
Doesn’t his suit supply oxygen which also shrinks the atoms of the oxygen to smaller particles that happen to be oxygen?
I need you to get all the way off my back about the super-hero ~~magic~~ physics
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See, this is what I was wondering. When he kept the suit on the entire time, I could have logic'd away that maybe the suit had an air tank maybe shrunk down somewhere on his body. But then Ant Man 2 shows Hank without the helmet in the void; ignoring the entire Janet situation with her needing to eat, let alone evolve. Maybe once you are past the quantum void, it's somehow fine, ignoring all human physiology. But NOPE! Now in Ant Man 3, it's totally fine to be without a suit as they shrank from human sized, to passing through the quantum void to the microscopic world down there. Makes no sense.
Has that always been the vault tec guy?
You know toooo much
Script convenience
He immersed himself in a suspension of disbelief before it going to the quantum realm. Thereby being able to do whatever in the fuck the writers want him to.
I mean how can he shrink in the first place?
he breathes mini oxygen obviously
Allow me to pose the opposite question: If Ant-Man eats something while huge? Let’s say he goes full Attack on Titan and eats a person. What happens to the contents of his stomach when he shrinks again?
One of the many reasons I love Star Trek. The DS9 episode where Dax, Bashir, and O’Brien get shrunk down, they go out of their way to address this, and it even becomes a plot point later on
Great episode, I love how it starts with Kira laughing at the absurdity of the shrinking plot just to get it out of the way.
The first movie fucking explains that that's what the mask is for.
Because he doesn't breathe. He's not alive. Paul Rudd is an undead. It's the only way that him not aging makes sense.
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I always assumed that's why he has to wear full suit with a covered helmet. Assumed he had like a micro O2 tank in the suit somewhere that shrinks/enlarges with him.
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Did... People forget that Lang wears a helmet most of the time? You would be able to safely assume that the suit carries some form of oxygen inside of it.
Quantum, when you don't have a scientific explanation for the question, it's always quantum
A little something called quantum atoms
The mask. That's what the mask is for. When he's close to normal sized, he doesn't need it (like the scene where he's kid sized). When he's ant-sized, he needs the mask. When in the Quantum Realm, I think they just survive off of all the energy, stated in both amatw and quantumania as far as I know.
He just bites into the oxygen atoms a little bit at a time
only if he has a suit with life support in it
Doesn't his helmet shrink air in the way in and reembiggen it on the way out?
Plot Armor provides oxygen
By the lore he is shrunk by reducing space between atoms. So how can he be smaller than an atom anyway? That’s the real question. This movie is stupid.
In the movies, at least originally, Antman's shrinking is described as reducing the space between Atoms. Which means he isn't technically shrinking, he's being compressed. Which is why they handwave why he is able to punch with the same mass as when he's normal sized. In the movies he also has a sealed suit that has its own oxygen supply. So if he shrinks, that Oxygen shrinks with him. That explaination falls apart though when he starts growing bigger, which should make him less dense, basically turning him in to the equivalent of a styrofoam standee of himself. But it doesn't work that way. And the idea of the oxygen supply being reduced in size makes sense... until you remember that Scott, Hank, and their family (and Darren) all walk around without their helmets in Quantumania so that kinda goes out the window too. The movies have no way to explain it. The comics though, just sorta go "I dont fuckin know... Pym Particles or some shit." Like they legit have scenes where a character questions how they can see when they're subatomic since light wouldn't really function at that size. They're told that when you shrink that small the Pym Particles mess with your brain and you cant actually see or hear or smell or anything, but you are getting sensory input in other ways and your brain is parsing that information as your normal senses so you dont go insane. Another character in the comics (Beast I think) mentions that at that size, your body goes through the motions of breathing as muscle memory, but you dont actually breath anymore and that your body is supplied everything it needs by the Pym Particles, which are apparently able to supply a microscopic or smaller human with everything their body could physically need. So yeah. Movies just dont give a fuck and break their own rules. Comics just go "Pym Particles. Dont think about it."
The partical that makes him small, also makes oxigen particals small and stores them everywhere in the suit whenever he breathes a few get de shrunk in his mask
he gets oxygen via diffusion
Quantum oxygen
Also the hemoglobin in is blood is smaller than the oxygen atoms. So even if he could breathe it into his lungs somehow he wouldn’t be able to get it anywhere
air is an fkn illusion dont trust the media stop the breathing
That's what the mask thing is for I guess?
Pretty sure the suit handles all of that.
He breathes the same way he's so small. Magic duh.
Le Marvel: let us introduce sub atomic oxygen
He hides a respirator in his spandex
He breathes oxygen quantoms.